Live from Hawks-C’s: Can apt pupils sweep aging teachers?

Two springs ago we wondered if the Hawks could keep from being swept by Boston. At issue this night is whether the Hawks can sweep Boston. Yes, there’s a difference — those were the playoffs, and this is the regular season — but any graph of the local team’s climb from sub-.500 to near-sublime must include a pushpin for those 15 days in 2008.

In their heart of hearts, the Hawks were probably hoping to win one game. They won three, all at Philips Arena, each more improbable than before. They won Game 3 and the Celtics ran out to a huge lead in Game 4, as if to say, “Order is being restored to nature.” But the Hawks won that night, too, and four nights later they were back at home, this time facing elimination.

Again the Celtics took an early lead. Again the Hawks outfought them down the stretch. (The home side scored on 17 consecutive possessions, which isn’t just good — it’s obscene.) And even if that strangely rousing series ended with a blowout loss in TD Banknorth Garden, it was clear that something had changed in the A-T-L. We had ourselves a basketball team again.

Last season Mike Woodson said it 25, maybe 50 times: “The Celtics taught us how to play playoff basketball.” But it was more than that. From beating the Celtics — who would go on to become NBA champs — three times in the spring of ‘08, the Hawks realized that they were capable of playing not just basketball but inspired basketball. They were tough enough and talented enough to hang in, at least at home, against the absolute best.

And now they’ve stamped themselves as among the best. They were tied for the lead in the NBA Southeast entering Friday night’s game and stood only a half-game behind the imperial C’s for second place in the East. The Hawks have gone from 37-45 in 2007-2008 to 47-35 last season and were on pace to go 54-28 this time. They placed two players on the All-Star roster, should have a third and could have had a fourth.

They’ve gotten so good so fast that they have attracted imitators. Oklahoma City and Portland are trying to do as the Hawks have done, which is to accumulate as much young talent as possible and give it room to grow. And now it’s Boston, which was 4-0 against the Hawks in the 2008-2009 regular season, that’s having to address speculation about being too old to fend off this young usurper.

Or, as was the case after the Hawks beat the Celtics on Jan. 11, not to address it. Were the Hawks, a reporter asked Glen Davis, in the C’s collective head? “Next question,” Big Baby sniffed.

Sweeps don’t really mean much unless they come in postseason, but just being 3-0 and in position to put the ol’ broom to the pride of Beantown offered yet another gauge on these Hawks. No, Kevin Garnett didn’t play in two of the three losses, but he played in the first meeting — Nov. 13 up there — and the vistors won by 11. (Besides, we all know the Big Ticket wants no part of the big Zaza. Yes, I’m kidding.)

It was two springs ago that Boston taught the Hawks how to play playoff basketball, and no one, the Celtics least of all, could have known how apt and ambitious their pupils would prove. The Green People now seem yesterday’s men — they were outscored 35-22 in the fourth quarter of a two-point loss in Orlando on Thursday — while more and more the Hawks seem the team of tomorrow. And maybe today.

And with that, I’ll open the floor to questions, comments and Tweets from Spirit the Hawk. (Remember him?) I’ll be chatting until game’s end, and I welcome your company.

250 comments Add your comment

nola hawk fan

January 29th, 2010
8:42 pm

Mark – great stuff, finally back home after trying to fly through the nasty weather that is heading your way. Love reading your recap/blog posts above. How would u rate the crowd energy thus far?

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:42 pm

Hawks by 12 at the half. Crawford has 18 points. Joe has one basket. Marvin has one. Horford and Zaza have been tremendous.

jtb

January 29th, 2010
8:43 pm

Wasn’t it Garnett who said last year that this wasn’t a rivalry because only 1 team one every time? Guess his words are proving to be true for this year as well…

JV

January 29th, 2010
8:45 pm

How long is Crawford under contract?

nola hawk fan

January 29th, 2010
8:46 pm

on espn gamecast is shows Zaza with 8 points 3 board and 2 assists… in ONLY 2 minutes. That is freaking impossible right? the minutes are a typo?

Ree Roe

January 29th, 2010
8:47 pm

Mark, have the Hawks PR or Philips Arena done anything to play up tonights potential sweep?

-REEcently Roe?

bosterazo

January 29th, 2010
8:47 pm

Is it possible to watch live game on NBATV over the internet? I clicked on a few links but theyre all just game highlights.

I have NBA broadband league pass but the game is blacked out …

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:47 pm

That’s a typo, yes. I’m thinking Zaza went at least 10 minutes. Maybe 12.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:48 pm

I’ve got nothing for you, bosterazo. Sorry.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:48 pm

They tried to sell tickets based on the “sweep” angle, Ree Roe. But it doesn’t look as if they sold them all.

Elmore Spencer

January 29th, 2010
8:49 pm

ZaZa played almost nine minutes in the half

bosterazo

January 29th, 2010
8:49 pm

Bradley/anyone: Any advice?

Elmore Spencer

January 29th, 2010
8:50 pm

J.J.M.

January 29th, 2010
8:52 pm

I just hope the hawks dont relax coming out in the 3rd

The Dude

January 29th, 2010
8:52 pm

Getting robbed out of TV coverage up here in snowy East Tennessee… didn’t like the start, got distracted, but I return to find the Hawks put up some big numbers in Q2. Nice. Not sure what the deal on the coverage is… the guide says Celtics vs. Hawks on SpSo… oh well.

Braves & Birds Michael

January 29th, 2010
8:52 pm

Does this game remind anyone else of the 91 Bulls-Pistons series? It’s no like we have Jordan & Pippen or anything, but this sure seems like a young, athletic team having learned how to win and vanquishing the top dog who kept them down. Now, if only the Cavs and Magic didn’t exist.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:53 pm

Crawford’s contract has two years to run after this, but there’s an opt-out built in.

Factory that makes/distributes highlights

January 29th, 2010
8:53 pm

Mark, given the chance late in the season, do you think the Hawks might try to maneuver themselves seed-wise to set up a potential second round matchup with the Celtics? Especially the way we’ve struggled with Cleveland and Orlando.

todd grantham

January 29th, 2010
8:53 pm

Mark, must we talk about basketball or is this open line Friday?

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:53 pm

That’s the thing, Michael. I’m not sure the Celtics are even the third-best team in the East anymore.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:54 pm

We can talk about something else, Todd, but I’m kind of focused on this game.

bosterazo

January 29th, 2010
8:54 pm

thx Elmore S … but its only showing a highlight of Teague blocking a shot. Any way to watch actual game?

mountain_jim

January 29th, 2010
8:55 pm

Game is on the NBA channel here in wnc , THe Dude… (if you get that one)

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:55 pm

The Southeast runnerup is going to be the fourth seed, Factory. You’d have to think Cleveland is going to be the No. 1 seed. That means the Southeast winner would play the Celtics in Round 2.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:57 pm

Pierce is lighting up Marvin. He has made eight of nine shots.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:58 pm

There’s no opt-out on Crawford’s deal anymore, I’m told.

Smoltz + Mets = Dead To Me

January 29th, 2010
8:59 pm

hawks feed: atdhe.net

bosterazo

January 29th, 2010
8:59 pm

This is crap … I dont live in the area and Broadband league pass has the game blacked out. Dont understand NBATV … do they only play games over pay-per-view cable channels, or is it possible to watch actual game online?

Please help.

todd grantham

January 29th, 2010
8:59 pm

isnt the thing about over?

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:00 pm

I didn’t see it, and it seems like a rather silly contention to me. I guess only those who shovel snow in New England are allowed to be disappointed.

Factory that makes/distributes highlights

January 29th, 2010
9:00 pm

I was reading Bill Simmons’ column on ESPN.com earlier and he said that because of the Hawks (and Falcons) lack of history, their fans are not qualified for severe heartbreak. I don’t know if you saw this, Mark, but what are your thoughts? He included the fact that Atlanta is a warm weather city as another factor.

The Dude

January 29th, 2010
9:01 pm

Yeah… noticed that up in 700’s from this provider. I’m in temporary company-sponsored housing, so no control over programming. I’m missing my DirecTV channel 649. I appreciate the head’s up though, thanks.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:03 pm

No chance on an exclusive, Elmore. Zero.

Elmore Spencer

January 29th, 2010
9:04 pm

Any chance Smoltz grants you an exclusive if he signs with the Mets MB?

I know you guys go way back.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:04 pm

Pierce is destroying Marvin. Celtics within seven. Mo Evans checks in, about three minutes too late.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:05 pm

Spirit used to Tweet me, but he does no longer.

La Jolla Dawg

January 29th, 2010
9:06 pm

Mark, where’s the update from Spirit? I heard he was going to pose naked for PETA to protest his ban from the floor, can you confirm?

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:06 pm

Paul Pierce has 22 of the C’s 52.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:06 pm

Refs discussing what to do about Josh. Flagrant on Josh. Technical on Perkins. Josh is upset.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:07 pm

Hard foul by Josh on Perkins. Tempers flaring, as they say.

todd grantham

January 29th, 2010
9:07 pm

well, we’re talking weather, ability to clear a room, snow shovelers in new england, and some guy named marvin getting his tail handed to him. i’d say thats a wide ranging conversation.

anyway Mark, you must be able to multi task.

John

January 29th, 2010
9:08 pm

is anyone streaming the game?

Factory that makes/distributes highlights

January 29th, 2010
9:08 pm

I agree, Mark. He listed fan bases for teams like the Cubs (of course), any Cleveland team, the Vikings and a few others from up north as most likely to head for the nearest bridge when “that moment” happens. It’s stupid to assume that because we live in the south, that we’re somehow immune to the heartbreak of a difficult loss. If the Hawks lose Game 7 of the NBA Finals on a buzzer-beater, I don’t think I’m going to take much solace in the fact that it will be warm when I walk outside. Just common northeast we-care-more-about-our-team-than-anyone-else arrogance.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:09 pm

Now Woody gets T’d up.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:10 pm

Got a game now. Horford drives on Perkins, scores and gets fouled. Hawks back up 10.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:11 pm

Just so we’re clear: Josh gets a flagrant, which means the Celtics shoot and keep the ball, and Woody gets a T on top of it. Celtics within eight.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:11 pm

Within six. Pierce over Crawford. He has 25.

Crawford answers. Back to eight. He has 21.

La Jolla Dawg

January 29th, 2010
9:13 pm

I haven’t listened to the Hawks’ announcers call a game in a long time, not necessarily a bad thing. They are a bit chatty for my taste.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:16 pm

I haven’t, either, La Jolla. Can’t pick up 790 The Zone outside the perimeter.

todd grantham

January 29th, 2010
9:17 pm

Mark, are you going to the UGA USC game tommorrow?