Live from Hawks-C’s: Can apt pupils sweep aging teachers?

Two springs ago we wondered if the Hawks could keep from being swept by Boston. At issue this night is whether the Hawks can sweep Boston. Yes, there’s a difference — those were the playoffs, and this is the regular season — but any graph of the local team’s climb from sub-.500 to near-sublime must include a pushpin for those 15 days in 2008.

In their heart of hearts, the Hawks were probably hoping to win one game. They won three, all at Philips Arena, each more improbable than before. They won Game 3 and the Celtics ran out to a huge lead in Game 4, as if to say, “Order is being restored to nature.” But the Hawks won that night, too, and four nights later they were back at home, this time facing elimination.

Again the Celtics took an early lead. Again the Hawks outfought them down the stretch. (The home side scored on 17 consecutive possessions, which isn’t just good — it’s obscene.) And even if that strangely rousing series ended with a blowout loss in TD Banknorth Garden, it was clear that something had changed in the A-T-L. We had ourselves a basketball team again.

Last season Mike Woodson said it 25, maybe 50 times: “The Celtics taught us how to play playoff basketball.” But it was more than that. From beating the Celtics — who would go on to become NBA champs — three times in the spring of ‘08, the Hawks realized that they were capable of playing not just basketball but inspired basketball. They were tough enough and talented enough to hang in, at least at home, against the absolute best.

And now they’ve stamped themselves as among the best. They were tied for the lead in the NBA Southeast entering Friday night’s game and stood only a half-game behind the imperial C’s for second place in the East. The Hawks have gone from 37-45 in 2007-2008 to 47-35 last season and were on pace to go 54-28 this time. They placed two players on the All-Star roster, should have a third and could have had a fourth.

They’ve gotten so good so fast that they have attracted imitators. Oklahoma City and Portland are trying to do as the Hawks have done, which is to accumulate as much young talent as possible and give it room to grow. And now it’s Boston, which was 4-0 against the Hawks in the 2008-2009 regular season, that’s having to address speculation about being too old to fend off this young usurper.

Or, as was the case after the Hawks beat the Celtics on Jan. 11, not to address it. Were the Hawks, a reporter asked Glen Davis, in the C’s collective head? “Next question,” Big Baby sniffed.

Sweeps don’t really mean much unless they come in postseason, but just being 3-0 and in position to put the ol’ broom to the pride of Beantown offered yet another gauge on these Hawks. No, Kevin Garnett didn’t play in two of the three losses, but he played in the first meeting — Nov. 13 up there — and the vistors won by 11. (Besides, we all know the Big Ticket wants no part of the big Zaza. Yes, I’m kidding.)

It was two springs ago that Boston taught the Hawks how to play playoff basketball, and no one, the Celtics least of all, could have known how apt and ambitious their pupils would prove. The Green People now seem yesterday’s men — they were outscored 35-22 in the fourth quarter of a two-point loss in Orlando on Thursday — while more and more the Hawks seem the team of tomorrow. And maybe today.

And with that, I’ll open the floor to questions, comments and Tweets from Spirit the Hawk. (Remember him?) I’ll be chatting until game’s end, and I welcome your company.

250 comments Add your comment

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:04 pm

I think he is, too, JJM. And that could work both ways. (In fact, it has already.)

mmgtfan

January 29th, 2010
8:05 pm

Hawks are shooting 31 percent and are down by one? alright then

standing up every 2nd and 3rd down on defense in sec 340

January 29th, 2010
8:05 pm

go zaza. slam 16-15

mmgtfan

January 29th, 2010
8:06 pm

Light crowd in the blog tonight isnt Mark?

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:07 pm

Teague throws the ball away, then blocks Eddie House’s layup. And Crawford hits a trey to tie.

standing up every 2nd and 3rd down on defense in sec 340

January 29th, 2010
8:07 pm

teague block. 3 points yes

T

January 29th, 2010
8:08 pm

DRAINO!!!!!!!!!!

mmgtfan

January 29th, 2010
8:09 pm

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:09 pm

It’s the NBA, mmgt. Everything happens in the fourth quarter.

dogcrap

January 29th, 2010
8:10 pm

Hey Mark, where do you get to sit??

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:10 pm

Hawks lead after a quarter. Crawford nails a 42-footer at the buzzer.

standing up every 2nd and 3rd down on defense in sec 340

January 29th, 2010
8:10 pm

jamaal!!!!!!! 3

Elmore Spencer

January 29th, 2010
8:10 pm

Pierce might be trying to prove something 2

J.J.M.

January 29th, 2010
8:10 pm

J.J.M.

January 29th, 2010
8:11 pm

well pierce made the all star

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:11 pm

What a move by Crawford to split two Celtics to free himself at midcourt.

Pretty good ballplayer. Pretty fair acquisition.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:12 pm

Summing up: Hawks played dead for 10 minutes but are ahead after one. They have more good players than the Celtics. I never thought I’d be saying that, but it’s true.

Elmore Spencer

January 29th, 2010
8:13 pm

Crawford is the X factor the Hawks have been missing

T

January 29th, 2010
8:14 pm

hawks should dominate this 5 the c’s have on the court right now

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:15 pm

Zaza has no fear of the Celtics. This we know for sure.

standing up every 2nd and 3rd down on defense in sec 340

January 29th, 2010
8:16 pm

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:16 pm

Zaza with a jumper. (Yes, a jumper.) Then with a steal and layup. Hawks by five.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:16 pm

Indeed, T, the Celtics just called time to get this five — or much of it — off the court.

mmgtfan

January 29th, 2010
8:17 pm

Zaza is a beast

mmgtfan

January 29th, 2010
8:17 pm

Where did they put you tonight Mark?

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:18 pm

As for where I’m sitting … in the mezzanine, next to esteemed former colleague Sekou Smith, who’s now with NBA.com. John Hollinger of ESPN.com is here, too.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:19 pm

Speaking of Crawford … another three. He has 11 points. So much for the “hit” the Celtics took out on him.

jeffrey d

January 29th, 2010
8:19 pm

You sure have a lot of esteemed former colleagues, Mark

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:20 pm

Knock me over with a feather. Rasheed Wallace just got T’d.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:20 pm

I’ve been fortunate, Jeffrey. I’ve worked with some great people.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:21 pm

Crawford is toying with the C’s. Just did another crossover and fed Horford on the baseline. Hawks by six.

T

January 29th, 2010
8:21 pm

“Both teams played hard. Both teams played hard. Both teams played hard. Both teams played hard man.” Have another one Sheed.

jeffrey d

January 29th, 2010
8:21 pm

I actually didn’t realize Sekou wasn’t with the AJC anymore

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:24 pm

The bad news: Joe hasn’t done a thing. The good: His team leads by nine.

Buzz

January 29th, 2010
8:25 pm

Zaza is my Papa!

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:27 pm

Horfy with a stepback over Perkins. Hawks up 11. This one has turned, folks.

Elmore Spencer

January 29th, 2010
8:28 pm

Seems like horford can hit the fade away

J.J.M.

January 29th, 2010
8:32 pm

i heard josh yell at joe he said “joe man sh*t”

standing up every 2nd and 3rd down on defense in sec 340

January 29th, 2010
8:32 pm

tomahawk slam

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:34 pm

Why Horford is so good: Just switched on Ray Allen and stayed with him, inducing a miss; then ran the floor and fed Josh Smith for a dunk. Still 11.

J.J.M.

January 29th, 2010
8:36 pm

joe is frustrated

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:38 pm

Joe is having a bad game. But the other guys are tearing it up.

J.J.M.

January 29th, 2010
8:39 pm

crawfordddddd

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:39 pm

Crawford drives and scores. He has 15. Now 16. In one half.

mmgtfan

January 29th, 2010
8:40 pm

Jamal Crawford ate his Wheaties this morning

Ree Roe

January 29th, 2010
8:40 pm

Jamal showin out!

-REEcently Roe!!!

JB

January 29th, 2010
8:41 pm

Mark, I’m sure you have been asked this, but at any point do we decide to start Jamal over Bibby? Is Bibby tradeable?

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:41 pm

Crawford AGAIN.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
8:42 pm

Here’s why you don’t start Crawford, JB: Because he provides a boost every night when the starters get tired. Bibby wouldn’t do the same if he were a sub. And the Hawks’ depth is what has made them an elite team.

J.J.M.

January 29th, 2010
8:42 pm

this feels like a playoff game