If Matt Ryan isn’t Peyton Manning but Eli, is that enough?

Everybody's happy when Matty Ice throws a touchdown pass. (AJC photo by Curtis Compton)

Everybody's happy when Matty Ice throws a TD pass. (AJC photo by Curtis Compton)

Regarding this Falcons’ season, only one question remains, and it will be answered next week in Tampa. Regarding the Falcons as a team, a question has arisen, a question we didn’t figure we’d be asking. But here it is:

What if the franchise quarterback isn’t quite a franchise quarterback?

We stipulate by saying that, if on the day Matt Ryan was drafted we’d have known the Falcons would be 19-10 (and 13-1 at home) with him as a starting quarterback, we’d have swooned on the spot. And we spent all last season swooning. But the greatest rookie quarterback in league history — and that’s what he was — hasn’t been the greatest sophomore quarterback in NFL annals.

Sunday was another installment in Ryan’s good-but-not-great season. He completed barely half his passes and had to hit on his final five to manage that. He threw three touchdown passes against no interceptions, but he was sacked three times and fumbled twice. He finished with 250 yards and his team won 31-3, but after two quarters Ryan was only 10-for-23 and his team’s lead was 10-0 against a Buffalo roster so defoliated it wouldn’t have troubled Alabama.

Yes, there were extenuating circumstances. Michael Turner didn’t play. Tony Gonzalez left midway through. Ryan did buy his team a working lead on the Falcons’ first snap, throwing long to Roddy White down the right side. And Ryan himself is still hurting from turf toe — he limped during the game and sported a soft boot afterward.

And maybe that’s the story of Matt Ryan’s 2009 season: It was extenuating. Almost nothing went wrong last season; a lot did this time. Guys got hurt. The schedule got tougher. And still he has gotten this team to the cusp of those forever-sought consecutive winning seasons. He hasn’t been anything approaching a failure. That said …

Matty Ice hasn’t been as precise in Year 2. His completion percentage has dipped from 61.1 to 57.6. He has thrown one more interception in 13 games than he did in 16 last year. His yards-per-pass index — probably a better indicator than the confusing quarterback rating — has gone from 7.9 last season to 6.5.

Asked about Ryan’s non-rookie season, White said: “I think it’s been pretty good. He’s done a lot of good things. He’s thrown 20 touchdown passes, and that’s good. Him getting hurt really hurt. But he’s a competitor.”

Notice, though, there was no gushing in that response. When anyone associated with the Falcons was asked about Ryan in 2008, gushing ensued. In many ways that was to be expected;  there was no way Ryan could have surprised his audience after his bravura rookie campaign. Still, there hasn’t been a Ryan game in 2009 that made you want to shout, “Hallelujah!” (The second half against the Giants did. But not the whole game.)

Asked to characterize Year 2, Ryan said: “The biggest thing — and this is something Coach [Mike] Smith preaches — is that it’s there’s a lot to learn from week to week. I said going into last season that if I could end it as a better quarterback than I started, it will be a successful year. That hasn’t changed in Year 2. There have been some ups and downs, but I’m standing here as a better quarterback than when I started the season.”

Understand: Nobody associated with the Falcons is even close to deciding Matt Ryan isn’t the real deal. Indeed, if this is as bad as it gets with Ryan as QB, then this franchise is in not just for two winning seasons in succession but five or 10. But the convenient point of comparison for Ryan raters entering 2009 was Peyton Manning. What if he turns out to be Eli Manning instead? Would that be enough?

And I say, “Heck, yeah.” At last check, Eli Manning has won just as many Super Bowls as his older sibling. If Matt Ryan wins just one Super Bowl for the franchise that hasn’t yet posted consecutive winning seasons, he’ll be worth every penny of that $72 million.

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Here we go again

December 27th, 2009
6:15 pm

Clusters.

Oh wait, nevermind. First.

First

December 27th, 2009
6:16 pm

Things first 9-7

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
6:17 pm

You have to get up pretty early to out-first Sonny Clusters. Kudos, Here We Go …

Here we go again

December 27th, 2009
6:18 pm

With the bucs beating the saints, let’s not get ahead of ourselves on that whole breaking the streak thing…

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
6:19 pm

That would be a cruel fate — missing the streak-breaker against a team like that. But I recall the Falcons missing a kick in overtime in Tampa that would have done the deed in 2005.

La Jolla Dawg

December 27th, 2009
6:20 pm

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
6:20 pm

Often I swoon.

falcons fan5114

December 27th, 2009
6:21 pm

Still the best QB Atl has had. MV was only a fan favorite bacause of his style-not his play. Rather have Matty on a bad day than MV on a good.

Here we go again

December 27th, 2009
6:23 pm

I remember that one. That was the season I started thinking the whole Mike Vick thing might not work out after all. Let’s give Matty Ice some grace in his 2nd season (and we have, I think). People got a little too excited and ahead of themselves this year; I think with more reasonable expectations in 2010, the Falcons have a chance to surprise some people.

So how long will it take you to crank out a column about Meyer’s indecision before you go on vacation, mb?

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
6:24 pm

If you had told me in April 2008 that the Falcons — coming off Petrino, Vick and 4-12 — would have a chance to break the consecutive-winning season drought in Ryan’s second year, I’d have said it was the greatest draft pick in team history. And that’s still where it stands.

26.2

December 27th, 2009
6:25 pm

Right on Mark. He isn’t a Marino, Fouts, Peyton, ect. But I think he is a solid upper crust QB that will be successful provided Birds can also be solid on OL, at running game and with tough defense.

BoDog

December 27th, 2009
6:26 pm

Mark,
I believe that the Iceman has not yet cometh anywhere near his ultimate destination, which will be one of the top 5 QBs in the game. That is plenty good enough to get the Falcons to the promised land, but as we all know, he can’t do it all himself.
This team needs DEFENSE!!!
I don’t think I need to utter the phrase that we all have heard 1,000 times about what wins championships, do I???
If our management/coaching team can put together just a top 10 defense, my thoughts are that we will be celebrating multiple championships in this much starved city of ours!

my 2 cents!

Meanwhile...what's in a name?

December 27th, 2009
6:27 pm

Maybe not quite as smooth as Matt Helm, but definitely a stronger arm than Eli Wallach.

He’ll do. Certainly better than the last Falcon QB whose first and last names could be interchangeable.

FalconOne

December 27th, 2009
6:27 pm

Let’s give Matt Ryan another year. I believe looking at Ryan and his 36 TD, 6100 yards passing and 23 Int. in 2 years he is well on his way to a stellar career. His career record of 19-12 is better than Peyton’s first two years with the Colts where he was 16-16. Peyton had 52 TD and 43 Int. Ryan and Manning both had basically the same rating of 82%. It’s hard to compare Peyton after all these years with Ryan. I don’t believe Ryan will ever be Peyton, but he will surely be better than Eli. All I can save with Ryan he will only get better. We wouldn’t even be talking having two back to back winning seasons if Vick were still here.

Supes

December 27th, 2009
6:29 pm

Here we go, Mark you wrote a lot but said very little. What is your and Schultz’s agenda with the Falcons and Matt Ryan? Why can’t you just WAIT for your 3 year “rookie evaluation” deal to end and come back after 3 years to pronounce judgement?

How’s this Mark…Matt Ryan is MATT RYAN. It’ll be good if people stopped (that is you, the media) comparing him to various other QB’s, guy has had 2 seasons in the league.

I think there are countless OTHER issues that could prevent the 2010 FALCONS from being a playoff team..and they don’t involve the STARTING QB position!

Just damn…

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
6:29 pm

Few among us are as smooth as Matt Helm. Sonny Clusters is, but the list is all too brief.

Manny

December 27th, 2009
6:29 pm

He’s not Eli Manning, either. He’s Matt Ryan. His skills aren’t quite like Eli- both good or bad. Matt Ryan is closer to, uh… I don’t know… Chad Pennington. He may be a little better than Chad Pennington right now, but his skills are Chad Pennington. Eli Manning? Ryan’s game simply doesn’t remind me of him at all.

La Jolla Dawg

December 27th, 2009
6:29 pm

Better be careful Mark, I heard excessive swooning can cause issues with ones health. Wouldn’t want you having to take an indefinite leave of absence.

jimmy

December 27th, 2009
6:30 pm

my god why can’t we greatfull .i was there when roland lawrence was deemed nto short and to slow and sent us home in tear’s.mr blank’s proudct is a hellalot more plattable than we have before.we have a lot to look foward to

FalconOne

December 27th, 2009
6:31 pm

BTW, Ryan would probably have at least another 600 yards passing and 3 or 4 more touchdown passes had he played in the three games he missed. And yes, Turner being out has hurt tremendously. I believe the Falcons MUST build their defense. I would also get a running back in case Turner goes down again. Ryan in all has had a decent year and would have passed his passing numbers of last year easily if he hadn’t missed the 3 games.

Manny

December 27th, 2009
6:32 pm

I want to say something a little unrelated here. Someone on this blog actually said that the Saints was going to lose against the Bucs. He or she said that it was because of what the Colts did during their run a few years ago or something.

Whoever that was… Kudos.

Meanwhile...taking a guess here

December 27th, 2009
6:33 pm

Mark I’m guessing the poster named 26.2 is trying to say, in not so many words, that when it comes to evaluating Ryan, it’s a marathon, not a sprint.

ThankfullyNotVick

December 27th, 2009
6:34 pm

All I can say is THANK GOD Matt Ryan isn’t Mike Vick. The worst passer to ever put on a Falcon uniform.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
6:34 pm

Actually, La Jolla, I am taking a leave of absence. But it lasts only seven days, and we’re calling it a vacation.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
6:35 pm

Mark, I’d rather have talent than speed. willie

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
6:36 pm

i always thought that aundre bruce was the best draft pick in falcons history.

no?

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
6:36 pm

You know, Manny, I’ve gone that route myself. Who does Ryan most closely resemble? And “a better Chad Pennington” is pretty darn close to what I’ve managed.

BugKiller

December 27th, 2009
6:36 pm

I think the problems with Matt Ryan this year have EVERYTHING to do with coaching.

Why does the offense NEVER throw screen passes to take the pressure off the o-line?

Why does Mularky continually call for roll-outs to the SHORT side of the field, taking 2/3’s of the field away from Ryan?

Why isn’t Mularky calling the downfield passes like he did last year?

I was worried, a little, going into the year, when Mularky said he took about 1/4 of the playbook offline.

Why the hell would he do that?

Matt Ryan needs an OC who can take advantage of his strengths and help him overcome his weaknesses.

None of that has happened with Mularky this year. It’s like there’s been no coaching of Ryan whatsoever.

The Falcons have a chance to bring in the man who made Tom Brady what he is today if they have the forsight to part ways with Mularky now.

You don’t think Charlie Weis wouldn’t jump at the chance to work with and groom Matt Ryan?

Unfortunately, Mike Smith will do as Mark Richt did, and hold on to his coach one or two years too long.

This offense should have been legendary. With or without Turner, there was enough power in this offense to do some great things.

Instead, it’s been unimaginative and very repetitive. Gonzalez runs two routes. White runs two or three routes. There’s no variation.

Let Mike Mularky go somewhere else and bring in offensive genius and quarterback guru Charlie Weis, the man who made Tom Brady, to bring out the best in Matt Ryan.

Have some vision, Mike Smith!

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
6:37 pm

no, maybe bubba bean was the best pick.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
6:37 pm

Aundray Bruce seemed a good idea at the time, Coach. We loved the fact he had a machete. Then he got in trouble with said machete.

dekalbdawg

December 27th, 2009
6:38 pm

Matt Ryan needs to definitiley work on some things in the offseason if we are to progress into a Playoff Team! Even without the injury he was forcing the ball at times! He seems to be a better QB when the Pace is faster(no huddle). He also needs to learn how to hit the checkdown! instead of
always throwing the ball away if he doesnt have a Open reciever.

END THE CURSE

December 27th, 2009
6:38 pm

Ryan is still a work in progress as is the TEAM, but we do have something very important left to play for this year, END THE CURSE. Think of all our past teams since 1966 who have had success one year, only to fail the next year. Hopefully, we now have a group of leaders in the coaching and front office staffs that will be able to guide this program in the right direction; and bring us into the promised land of year in and year out winning seasons. IF we can get to that point, then we will have a better chance of a Super Bowl victory. So yes I will take a 9-7 for this year. Having consecutive winning seasons for the first time in team history IS a step in the right direction to developing a winning attitude for this team.

David

December 27th, 2009
6:39 pm

We’d still be in the playoff mix if he hadn’t missed two games. Being in the playoffs one year, and in the mix the year after, isn’t the signs of a failing QB. There probably won’t be another Manning (Peyton, that is). That comparsion should stop, because with another Super Bowl title, it’s quite likely he’ll go down as the greatest QB in the history of the sport.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
6:39 pm

I would agree that Mularkey’s play-calling has had an effect on Ryan. Hard to throw for big yardage when you’re not throwing deep. But you tend to throw deep off play-action, and those fakes haven’t had the same impact in 2009.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
6:39 pm

i remember Greg Brezina coming to speak to my high school the monday morning after a game. Limping but bold. now that guy’s a man.

billcanoe

December 27th, 2009
6:39 pm

Just give him some time, and Matty Ice will be everything that we could hope for. this falcons team has perservered through serious injuries and a much tougher schedule than last year to still do pretty well, everything considered. By the way, the measuring stick is not Peyton or Eli, but Tom Brady, who will have 4 Super Bowl rings before he is through. (He would have them already, but for the most miraculous catch in Super Bowl history.) give ryan time and he will be as good as Brady.

Meanwhile...speaking of Colts QBs

December 27th, 2009
6:39 pm

If we are comparing him to Colt QBs, at the very least it’s a good sign we are talking about Peyton Manning, and not Jeff George.

FoxNoise.net

December 27th, 2009
6:40 pm

Ryan doesn’t have to be great for the Falcons to be great.

FalconOne

December 27th, 2009
6:40 pm

Chad Pennington? Are you kidding? Give me a break. Why don’t you go back and look at John Elway and his first two full seasons. 6500 yards passing, 40 TD’s and 38 INT. along with a 73% rating. And those two teams were 12-4 and 11-5. When did the great QB’s usually hit their peaks. Their 3rd, 4th, 5th years, not in the second. If Ryan has better stats and rating than Elway, I will take it every day.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
6:41 pm

Headed home now, folks. Thanks for hanging with me all day. It has been, as ever, a hoot and a half.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
6:41 pm

Obviously, the falcons have had 35 busts in first draft picks to the few good ones.

Brett Favre will haunt the team forever.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
6:42 pm

Safe travels Mark.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
6:43 pm

And a happy new year. best, willie

Meanwhile...speaking of Colts QBs

December 27th, 2009
6:43 pm

Mark for your indefatigable yoeman’s work, you’ve been granted an indefinite leave of absence with full pay and benefits. Take all the rest of 2009 to regroup.

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 27th, 2009
6:44 pm

Matt Ryan and the offense in general would look better if they had a good offensive line. It’s been many years since the Falcons had a good offensive line.

Would the real Matt Ryan please stand-up

December 27th, 2009
6:45 pm

As a former college receiver, my analysis for what is worth. Matt Ryan legacy will be based on next year.

Also, Ryan is a timing quarterback. With great perfection he can make most of this throws. He is no Drew Brees or Peyton Manning who can make all the throws. Nor do I believe he will ever be. But, he will be a top 10 quarterback in the league and if the falcons build a system around him, then he can be a playoff gb, maybe a superbowl qb one year or two. He is no Romo or QB who can flourish without a near perfect system around him: great run game, ol and defense etc. Some qb’s can overcome those things, I don’t see Ryan being one of them.

Build falcons build.

BugKiller

December 27th, 2009
6:47 pm

Mark,

But it’s the frustrating repetative crap with Mularky, who seems like he’s channeling the worst and most unimaginative parts of Willie Martinez.

There is NO screen pass in this offense. None. Oh, sometimes when Norwood is in the game, and the other team knows exactly what’s coming.

Throw to Turner in the flats, dammit! He has soft hands!

And then there is how Mularky is using Gonzalez, which is downright shameful. Seriously, he has him running two routes. A post and an out. That’s it.

But again, the WORST, is when he calls all the rollouts to the SHORT side of the field. It’s beyond stupid!

You know WHY the Falcons offense is much better in the no huddle???

Because Mularky is NOT calling the plays! Ryan is!!!

Seriously… what is with this idea that because someone is serviceable that you should never look for someone better?

Mularky is serviceable, but he’s not the best the Falcons can now get. Charlie Weis is out there. And KC or Buffalo is going to go get him if the Falcons don’t show some vision and get him first.

Weis may have been a terrible head coach. So was Dick LeBeau. But Dick and Charlie are outstanding coordinators.

Pick him up while you have the chance!

Mel in Midtown

December 27th, 2009
6:48 pm

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The Grinch

December 27th, 2009
6:52 pm

He is definitely still a work in progress, and it isn’t really fair to compare his two seasons considering the sked, injuries (including those to himself), missed time, etc. Yeah, he’s regressed a tad. But the whole team has regressed (including Mularkey) so let’s take that into account. For god’s sake, we had a defensive end kicking off today and still won by four touchdowns. Had we been at anything close to full strength in any area this year this article wouldn’t exist.

E43

December 27th, 2009
6:52 pm

this article says nothing to me, its like putting peyton manning on and matt ryan on two different hawks loosing teams and comparing their stats. tony romo had zero completions, tds ints his first year after being undrafted and look how he’s come along. that being said he (tony)was on an already good team that needed few pieces.

Manning is a great quarterback just like jordan was a great guard but no one has been labeled to follow the same footsteps these two took just yet. its premature to make assumptions right now. just imagine if our deffense got just 1-2 more picks within 50 or scoring range and matts rating wouldve been that much better.

Mike Carroll

December 27th, 2009
6:57 pm

Whether he is great or not will not be decided next week…. Thats just a stupid statement in a pointless article.

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December 27th, 2009
7:00 pm

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Mike Carroll

December 27th, 2009
7:02 pm

Stupid me! i misread the first paragraph… Still seems like a pointless question though.

welikebaseball2

December 27th, 2009
7:03 pm

So, of course the same people that bash “Vick-lovers” for bringing up the former QB took the opportunity to bring up the former QB themselves…unwarranted. Some of you just can’t seem to make a case for the current QB without bringing up your hatred/dislike of the former. Go figure.

ANYWAY, in regards to Bradley’s take on THIS (get it?) year’s QB, I think the verdict’s definitely still out on Ryan. Next year will tell. He showed some guts this year, but also showed considerable poor decision making & arm strength limitations. I’m hoping he works hard in the offseason, studies some film, & comes back with what caused him to take the league by storm last year.

Note to you “Ryan-lovers” (sorry, couldn’t help myself): Just because he’s not the one you love to hate doesn’t mean he’s “enough.” I know, I know, there I go talking from an objective FOOTBALL perspective. I’m hoping for the best, but let’s not be blind to what was an undeniably mediocre season by our sophomore QB.

FalconOne

December 27th, 2009
7:03 pm

Yeah, Romo is so great, how many wins does his team have in December? The one against the Saints, yes, and then what? I don’t think he has any playoffs wins does he? Division titles?

Matt "Choke" Ryan

December 27th, 2009
7:04 pm

The rookie qb in Tampa has done something the CHOKE will never do…………..

Beat an ELITE team :)

jack

December 27th, 2009
7:04 pm

Bugkiller… you are on the money…

and your comments are worth repeating for those who might have missed them…

I think the problems with Matt Ryan this year have EVERYTHING to do with coaching.

Why does the offense NEVER throw screen passes to take the pressure off the o-line?

Why does Mularky continually call for roll-outs to the SHORT side of the field, taking 2/3’s of the field away from Ryan?

Why isn’t Mularky calling the downfield passes like he did last year?

I was worried, a little, going into the year, when Mularky said he took about 1/4 of the playbook offline.

Why the hell would he do that?

Matt Ryan needs an OC who can take advantage of his strengths and help him overcome his weaknesses.

None of that has happened with Mularky this year. It’s like there’s been no coaching of Ryan whatsoever.

The Falcons have a chance to bring in the man who made Tom Brady what he is today if they have the forsight to part ways with Mularky now.

You don’t think Charlie Weis wouldn’t jump at the chance to work with and groom Matt Ryan?

Unfortunately, Mike Smith will do as Mark Richt did, and hold on to his coach one or two years too long.

This offense should have been legendary. With or without Turner, there was enough power in this offense to do some great things.

Instead, it’s been unimaginative and very repetitive. Gonzalez runs two routes. White runs two or three routes. There’s no variation.

Let Mike Mularky go somewhere else and bring in offensive genius and quarterback guru Charlie Weis, the man who made Tom Brady, to bring out the best in Matt Ryan.

welikebaseball2

December 27th, 2009
7:10 pm

Gee, must be nice for a sophomore QB to have all his struggles (see picks/poor decisions) blamed on the OC. Come on folks. Not that Mularky is without fault (see Saints game playcalling), but let’s not treat Ryan with kid gloves. Mularky is not to blame for his increased interception numbers & missed throws. He showed really good accuracy last year, but this year he simply overthrew or, mostly, underthrew more than a few wide open receivers. Let not our bias blind us…please. One set of standards is all I ask for. Either use excuses for everyone or no one.

Steve C

December 27th, 2009
7:13 pm

Kinda don’t like the premise of the article, although I agree with the “Heck yeah” at the end. I think this has been a perfectly good season for the birds, all things being considered – not the least of which is that you’re not supposed to go from putrid (under Petrino) to a consistent playoff contender. They had a great (lucky/weak schedule) season last year and this year they’ve come back to earth some, but still consistently competitive – which is more than you can say just about any other back to back season. Same for Ryan, you don’t become a consistently good NFL QB without going thru some of the things he’s gone thru this year. Since we’re wrongly comparing him to the Manning bros., then take a look at what they went thru – same kinda things that have happened this year to Ryan. Its obvious to see that the Falcons got the right guy at QB, now they need the other cores pieces to make it work and to give Ryan a chance to see if indeed he is championship caliber.

Matt "Choke" Ryan

December 27th, 2009
7:14 pm

Who are the Falcons playing in the playoffs?

Oh my bad :)

FalconUGAFan

December 27th, 2009
7:16 pm

I always tend more towards the middle ground. Ryan isn’t the second coming nor was our last QB the antichrist. I felt this year would be successful if we went 9-7 and here we are (with one more to go). I agree that there were extenuating circumstances, but there always are. Next year should be the bellwether.

ed

December 27th, 2009
7:19 pm

Its funny how idiots are saying that ryan is the best qb that the falcons has ever had, but he has not won a playoff game yet. MV won his first playoff game against Brett Favre in Green Bay, took the falcons to the NFC championship game, Chandeller took the falcons to the super bowl. So until he accomplish these things then lets not make this guy Peyton Manning.

mike addington

December 27th, 2009
7:24 pm

Why don’t we wait another year or so before we go jumping on either the Eli and Payton bandwagons. OH, I forgot, we have to have something to argue about.

tjhook

December 27th, 2009
7:29 pm

I’m down for the Charlie Weis pickup. Lord knows I’m tired of all the Mularkey the Falcons gave fans this year.

mike addington

December 27th, 2009
7:30 pm

Additionally, Ryan’s and the Falcon’s record would be a lot better with better receivers. White is barely, if at al, a number one. Jenkins shouldn’t be on the roster, and, as much as I like him, the back up running back slot needs an upgrade. Harry Douglas was really missed this year.

ed

December 27th, 2009
7:32 pm

Think about this… if Elam had made two crucial field goals… then the Falcons would be in the playoffs and none of us would think twice about whether Ryan is worth it or not. .. or how about if they had won the coin toss in that overtime game? Regardless of all of that, this team was not ever going to the Super Bowl… there are too many serious holes to fill… (especially in the secondary). They need another good draft and they need this year’s picks to get healthy and contribute next year.

LantaFalcons

December 27th, 2009
7:35 pm

lol really, you pulled the Chandler comparison out?

“Chandeller took the falcons to the super bowl”

Chandler’s best seasons were at the end of his career … 10 years after he was drafted.

keith butts

December 27th, 2009
7:38 pm

The Falcons WILL win a Super Bowl under Matt Ryan! Nuff Said!!

Kasim Reed

December 27th, 2009
7:38 pm

If we win the Superbowl, who cares who Ryan is.

Either way, I’m still the mayor, and you’re all lovin’ every minute of it.

Suckers.

merculf

December 27th, 2009
7:39 pm

Who’s to say that one day people will compare the Manning boys to Matt Ryan instead of the other way around? To soon to tell………

George Holman

December 27th, 2009
7:41 pm

Without the injuries and the kicking woes we make the playoffs!

Kasim Reed

December 27th, 2009
7:43 pm

Hell, without injuries and kicking woes, we win the damn Superbowl!

Suckers.

Big Ray

December 27th, 2009
7:44 pm

I’m not at all worried about Matt Ryan. He has “it”, and that’s what counts for a lot. Don’t ask me what “it” is, it’s a long conversation that normally ends in argument.

Ryan may not be Peyton Manning. Manning has won one SuperBowl and may not ever win another. Look at Dan Marino. How many SuperBowls has HE won?

Ryan will be fine. He’ll get better and better. A franchise quarterback isn’t necessarily a guy whom you ride all the way to the top. He LEADS, rather than doing all of he heavy lifting. People should have figured that out with Mike Vick. That was a very clear example of riding a quarterback whose legs were nearly as potent as the arms of some of the best quarterbacks. Problem is, you don’t win big as a quarterback with your legs. And, we tried to ride those legs all the way, which is why we never got past the second round of the playoffs. It just doesn’t work.

You have to build an ENTIRE team, and you have to do it on BOTH sides of the ball. Ryan doesn’t have to be awesome. He has to be good. And good makes you a franchise quarterback.

I’d much rather have a very good team on both sides of the ball, with a very good quarterback, rather than an awesome quarterback, with a team that has question marks aplenty on both sides of the ball. Want an example? New Orleans Saints. Take Drew Brees out of the picture and suddenly all of those question marks coming floating up. It’s why they may go a ways in the playoffs, but I just don’t see them in the SuperBowl, much less winning it.

Tron5000

December 27th, 2009
7:45 pm

Matt Ryan’s QB rating this season is down to 79.1, and that is a rating Eli didn’t surpass until his 5th year in the league. He’s better than Eli was at this point, and I see no reason why he won’t continue to progress with more time and experience. Not worried about the kid at all. I said at the time of the 2008 draft that the Falcons should select Ryan, and I would trade up to No.1 to get the kid if I had to. I stand by that position.

TMoney

December 27th, 2009
7:45 pm

I’ve taken a good amount of time preparing this, so forgive me for it’s length.

Since so many media pundits like to compare players, I did a comparison of Matt Ryan to 7 other active QBs. Those QBs are the three named in this column, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, and Chad Pennington. I also added two others I’ve seen him compared to, Tom Brady and Drew Brees. Finally, I added two other young QBs that I think have been very good, Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers. Of the 8 QBs, only Peyton Manning started every game his first 2 seasons. Based solely on record, the QBs would be ranked as follows:

Ben Roethlisberger – 22-3, .880
Philip Rivers – 25-7, .781
Tom Brady – 20-10, .667
Matt Ryan – 19-10, .655
Chad Pennington – 12-9, .571
Eli Manning – 12-11, .522
Peyton Manning – 16-16, .500
Drew Brees – 10-17, .370

Based solely on this, Ben Roethlisberger is the best and Matt Ryan is nearly a mirror image of Tom Brady. However, there is another key to these numbers. 4 of these QBs, did not start at all as a rookie, Philip Rivers, Tom Brady, Chad Pennington, and Drew Brees. Not only that, but Rivers and Pennington didn’t start a game for 2 seasons. So let’s look beyond records and pull up the QB stats for the first 2 seasons when these 8 guys started. These will be in order of QB rating and will include Completions, Attempts, Yards, TDs, INTs, Rating, and Yards per Attempt.

Roethlisberger – 364-563, 5006 Yds., 34 TD, 20 INT, 98.3 QB Rating, 8.9 Y/A
Pennington – 464-696, 5259 Yds., 35 TD, 18 INT, 95.1 QB Rating, 7.6 Y/A
Brady – 637-1014, 6607 Yds., 46 TD, 26 INT, 86.0 QB Rating, 6.5 Y/A
Ryan – 505-850, 6133 Yds., 36 TD, 23 INT, 84.5 QB Rating, 7.2 Y/A
Rivers – 561-920, 5540 Yds., 43 TD, 24 INT, 82.7 QB Rating, 6.0 Y/A
P. Manning – 657-1108, 7874 Yds., 52 TD, 43 INT, 80.6 QB Rating, 7.1 Y/A
Brees – 525-882, 5392 Yds., 28 TD, 31 INT, 73.1 QB Rating, 6.1 Y/A
E. Manning – 389-754, 4805 Yds., 30 TD, 26 INT, 70.5 QB Rating, 6.4 Y/A

So what does this mass of numbers tell us? That even the greatest QBs take time to develop. Two other small notes, only 2 players on this list, Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan, started from day 1. People didn’t turn on Peyton as fast as they are turning on Ryan, they gave him a chance to grow. Do the same for Ryan, give him a chance to show us what he’s got before we try to label him.

BlackTalon

December 27th, 2009
7:45 pm

If, someone had told me the Falcons will be 19-10 in Matt Ryans 1st 29 starts, back at the start of the `08 season?
I probably would not have believed them but dang sure would have taken it as being positive if, true.

Michael

December 27th, 2009
7:46 pm

Matty will be fine; he’s still acclimating. And our season would have been fine, too, if our original kicker hadn’t lost us several games. Everyone downplays it; but easy field goals were missed, and now, so will be the postseason. DAMN YOU ELAM !!

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
7:48 pm

When I first graduated college, I lived in the same apartment complex as Andre Bruce was living when he pulled the infamous Pizza incident, I remember sitting on the balcony watching the police cars filing past.

The next day, when I found out what happened, I was thinking WTF is the #1 draft choice living in the same dump as I was making $18,000 per year. It was then, I remembered he want to Auburn, and, quite frankly, was not very bright.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
7:50 pm

Ryan is fine, if he grows, he will be among the best in the NFL, if not, he still will be the most consistent QB in Atlanta History.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
7:51 pm

I would agree: Ryan is a “timing” quarterback. Unlike, say, Elway, who could throw a football through a locomotive.

BlackTalon

December 27th, 2009
7:52 pm

Enter your comments here

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
7:54 pm

Really, all one has to do is look how the Chicago game last year, and the kicking woes this year, and see there has not been much difference. It is called consistancy. I do like the way Grimey is playing, and our D is starting to come together.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
7:54 pm

Mark, did you ban some regulars? I miss them.

Jimmy

December 27th, 2009
7:55 pm

It is indeed too soon to tell with Ryan if he is Peyton or Eli.
I would take Eli if Peyton is not available.
Eli would be just fine.
How many Peyton’s are there anyway?

Big Ray

December 27th, 2009
7:55 pm

The part that always gets me is when people talk about “the dearly departed.”

Well, for those who lamented the loss of Dominique Foxworth, there he sits with 48 tackles and 4 interceptions. Guess who sits HIGHER with 64 tackles and 5 interceptions? Brent Grimes. Heh…

For those who bemoan the loss of Harry Douglas…Harry Douglas? Harry Douglas! Dude has ZERO NFL stats for the year. Why? Lemme go out on a limb here….I’ll bet he was injured. Whether he was wearing a Falcons jersey or not…you’d STILL be missing him.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
7:56 pm

I don’t really ban people, Mr. Charlie.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
7:56 pm

Ice has shown the ability to step up his game in the 4th quarter. That is the mark of a true QB.

Jimmy

December 27th, 2009
7:57 pm

Mr Charlie,
I don’t miss a few of the regulars.
I bet their mommies made them stay off the computer for Christmas.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
7:57 pm

Oh well, they are OK as long as they keep it clean, we are all entitled to our opinions.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
7:57 pm

That’s kind of my point, Jimmy. If Ryan doesn’t turn out to be the best quarterback in the NFL but, say, the seventh-best, is that good enough? Probably.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
7:59 pm

Douglas was a Wes Welker type, Gonzo is a good go to guy, but it would be nice to have a jitterbug coming out of the slot.

Jimmy

December 27th, 2009
7:59 pm

Big Ray: Good observations. Never would have thought Grimes would have better stats than Foxworthy.

Mr Charlie: Yes, Ryan has shown us something.
I think he is going to be much improved next year.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
8:00 pm

Mark, There is only one Payton. Again, if the Falcons are down 4 with 2 minutes to go, I like Ryan.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
8:00 pm

And I would agree that, even if Ryan doesn’t make every throw, he makes the big throws. Converted two more fourth downs on touchdown drives today.

Sonny Clusters

December 27th, 2009
8:00 pm

Here’s wishing you a good vacation, Mark. Clusters don’t vacation because it causes too much stir when we walk out on the beach all ripped and tan and the women start coming over to us and leaving their sweethearts over there waiting for us to kick some sand in they face. We just stopped going to the beach. Of course, we can’t seem to place a Kentucky beach so maybe that kind of vacation would be alright. We hope you enjoy yours. Your pal, Sonny Clusters.

Jimmy

December 27th, 2009
8:01 pm

Mark,

You bet…I was agreeing with you.
I think this year was a aberration for Ryan too.
He will bounce back next year.
I think the team will be better next year.

I am just thrilled we have the chance to beat the curse next week.
We are going to beat the curse.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
8:02 pm

Grimes it a free agent in his 2nd year, I can’t count the picks he has dropped in the past two years, it seem like he is starting to hold onto them. He is small, but he has shown me something. I think he has a ton of heart.

Big Ray

December 27th, 2009
8:02 pm

Jimmy ,

Who would have thunk it? :)

Barkin'Dog

December 27th, 2009
8:03 pm

Jumping in here late with a thought. The Falcons have to bring their A-game next week against a resurgent Tampa Bay team that beat the Saints today… if they are to finish winners (2 years in a row). But they go in knowing last week they beat a Jets team (in the Meadowlands on a frigid, windy day) that just beat the undefeated, Super Bowl-bound Indy Colts. WOW! That is weird. A team just knocked out of the playoffs beating a team that could win it all… although I realize the Colts were trying to avoid injuries. It still says something.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:04 pm

Mark, what time are we leaving in the morning?

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
8:04 pm

Starting QBs are hard to come by, if you have one, you have a chance. Look at Baltimore and Miami. You think Detroit would be happy to be sitting at 8-7?

Big Ray

December 27th, 2009
8:05 pm

Mr. Charlie ,

Grimes has decent technique, and as you said, a ton of heart. I’ll take that over that damn Chris Houston any day. Dude couldn’t turn his head if Anna Kournikova, Beyonce, and Eva Longoria walked past him butt naked….

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:05 pm

i think all the Bradleys will be there: bobby joe, billie joe and betty joe. i think granny clampett has passed on though.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
8:06 pm

I think today and next week really have a lot to say about Smitty. They are still fighting and playing hard, he has the locker room. The reason we never had back to backs is because we never had a coach who could keep the locker room. It is easy to be a good coach when you win, losing is another story.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:06 pm

evan as a kid i could tell that “eb” was the worst actor on earth.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:08 pm

i invited A M Blank to Kentucky. but he only shook my hand and said congratulations.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
8:09 pm

Grimes is just learning to play on this level, he does not have much experience, but he seems to be getting it. His size will always be an issue, but playing corner is more than size. Again, he could have 20 picks over the past two season if he could just hang onto the ball, but he is learning.

Sonny Clusters

December 27th, 2009
8:10 pm

The highest honor awarded by the Commonwealth of Kentucky is that of Kentucky Colonel. We was almost a Kentucky Colonel but it didn’t work out. Maybe Mark has a shot at it and that’s why he’s heading to Kentucky tomorrow. Colonel Bradley sounds like Best of Cox to us.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:10 pm

BTW, i checked delta flights, and they are running a special to Maysville for the next couple of days.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
8:11 pm

One thing that Mark was right about, our D has gotten better. We have played good D the past two weeks.

Reid Adair

December 27th, 2009
8:11 pm

I’m not exactly sure who all thought Matt Ryan was going to be the next Peyton Manning – but I didn’t. I think Ryan is right; he has learned this season, and he has gotten better. I believe, overall, he is a better quarterback now than he was prior to the season – despite missing those games due to injury.

Ryan was drafted to be the quarterback for the future. His numbers have dropped a little bit, but I am not convinced that is solely a result of his own doing.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:11 pm

Sonny, have you forgotten about our great uncle Omar? surely not!

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:13 pm

have you ever noticed how much A M Blank looks like the men in black?

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
8:13 pm

Ryan has shown the ability to make big throws with the game on the line, that is the most important things. If you can do that, all the other things will work out.

EddieB

December 27th, 2009
8:14 pm

Lordy, lordy have you forgot all the awful quartebacks on all those awfully terrible teams from the past. David Archer, Bobby Hebert, Jeff George, Scott Campbell and Chris Miller. Give me Matt Ryan and that 13-1 record at home the last two years anytime. I watch the Falcons now that Mike Smith and Matty Ice lead this team. These are fun birds to watch now on sunday’s.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:15 pm

Mark, you want to see some of the best writing ever? Google Lincoln’s letter to Mrs Bixby. Better even than the Gettysburgh Address.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
8:16 pm

The Manning comparisons come from Ryans 4th quarter play, of being able to make the right read in the 4th quarter. I think Smith, Arthur and the entire Falcon team is very happy with their QB.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
8:17 pm

I’m not a Kentucky Colonel, though I believe my mom is.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
8:17 pm

Chris Miller is a perfect example, he threw a nice ball, but when the 4th quarter rolled around and the D’s starting mixing it up, he was at his worst.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:17 pm

eddie, you omitted kim mcquilken. he was, without a doubt, the worst.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
8:17 pm

2 seasons, 13-1 at home, that is building something.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
8:18 pm

Better even that Grantland Rice on the Four Horsemen?

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
8:18 pm

No, Billy Joe Tolliver was the worst.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:18 pm

interesting spelling of colonel. just as wierd as the british say lefttenant.

DePlane

December 27th, 2009
8:18 pm

Agree Bugkiller….don’t know if Wiess is the right guy, but Mularkey is unimaginative at best.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
8:19 pm

Let’s not forget Tony Graziani. Or Steve DeBerg.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:19 pm

Dont forget the Bear was at Kentucky for a brief period. Adolph Rupp ran him off.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:20 pm

or Brett Favre

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:21 pm

a real unknown here: a green bay qb from the 1970’s named jim del gazo

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
8:21 pm

There are no beaches in Kentucky, Sonny. Just the Ohio River. The Bradley family of Maysville lives less than a mile from the water.

GaBroncoFan

December 27th, 2009
8:21 pm

Wow, a chance for back to back winning seasons must be something to really be proud of. You Atl dopes must be dumber than I thought. Ryan will never, ever measure up to Manning or some of the other elite QB talent past or present. Injuries and lack of help on the defensive side will make sure of that. He may have more impressive career stats than Eli…just one thing though..Eli has a SB title and Ryan won’t win one just like Marino. And just think..if you go 9-7 next year you’ll have 3 winning years in a row…gee..let the good times roll

Jay

December 27th, 2009
8:22 pm

Please – be serious …. I’ll take Ryan any day of the week! What a weak article.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
8:23 pm

Bear Bryant recruited my uncle Rob to play for UK but stashed him in Augusta Military Academy for a couple of years. By the time Rob was ready to go to school, the Bear was at Texas A&M. Rob wound up at Louisville, starting at quarterback in the Sun Bowl.

Falcon Fan Mike

December 27th, 2009
8:23 pm

Give the man a break he will be an elite qb people forget this is only his 2nd season most qbs don’t even get good until their 3rd season

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:23 pm

another green bay whiz named barty smith

Sonny Clusters

December 27th, 2009
8:24 pm

Billy Joe Tolliver, Bruce Lemmerman.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:25 pm

Mark, how exaggerated do you think the movie (college station?) was?

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
8:25 pm

Never saw it, Coach. I hate sports movies.

bman

December 27th, 2009
8:27 pm

The falcons have 5 road losses. combined home records of those 5 teams is 27-12 ( overall record of teams falcons lost to 58-31) They played 4 teams coming off of by-weeks and had a stretch of 6 of 8 games played on the road. adding to this the fact that they played most of the season without 2 key defensive starters and 4 games without their best offensive player and 2 games without their starting quarterback, i would consider 9-7 an EXCELLENT season. Bradley is off the mark ( hahhah) as usual…

Ed

December 27th, 2009
8:27 pm

Matt Ryan is an excellent game manager at quarterback and reads and reacts well to the ongoing of the game and now has the offensive weapons to help out. Matt Ryan will lead the Falcons to a Super Bowl championship one day. As for the back to back seasons we just need to put that on the back burner and just go beat Tampa next Sunday.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:28 pm

Rob never played pro ball?

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:28 pm

does that include field of dreams? one of my all time favorites?

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
8:29 pm

TMoney – thanks for taking the time to put together the record and personal stats for the 8 QBs. I’d say in almost any other town Matt Ryan would be looked upon by many in a good light and those not sure would still be more willing to give him more time. However, the difference here is what Ryan came into. A city that was losing a highly popular (locally and nationally) QB under for very controversial reasons – and also a city unfortunately polarized for various football/social reasons. Here’s hoping that a few years changes Falcon fans back to just Falcon fans . . . .and happy ones at that!!!!

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:29 pm

yeah, i heard that friday night lights was a bummer.

falcon21

December 27th, 2009
8:30 pm

Thank you Big Ray, it’s nice to read a comment from someone with some common sense. Matt is a very good QB now and will be a great QB in the near future. He is a very smart guy that works hard and can make all the throws. Give the man an o-line that will give him just a little time and he will be unstopable.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:30 pm

if you tell me you havent seen or dislike field of dreams then i just dont know where we are.

Not Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
8:32 pm

against a Buffalo roster so defoliated it wouldn’t have troubled Alabama.

Yet last week Buffalo lost at New England 17-10. But I guess you have to write something.

Joey Harrington

December 27th, 2009
8:32 pm

What about me?

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:32 pm

James Earl Jones, one of my favorite actors of all time. Costner was ok in the flick.

Sonny Clusters

December 27th, 2009
8:32 pm

We was crossing the Simon Kenton Memorial Bridge when we was stopped by police and they spotted all the little Dairy Queen spoons in the glove box and we was almost arrested. Since that time, we have only carried enough spoons for a week’s worth of Dairy Queen. Simon Kenton was a friend of Daniel Boone and Daniel Boone’s descendant played against us when we was state championship. Stinky Wintes was assigned to him and shut him down.

Ryan will be fine

December 27th, 2009
8:33 pm

I watched the game, and at least 8 of the in-completed passes were thrown away….

Pete

December 27th, 2009
8:33 pm

Ryan’s protection has been horrible all this year. NO quarterback can succeed behind a mediocre O line, which is what we have.
Time to admit it, the O=line is THIRD rate………..needs a total overhaul.

Adam

December 27th, 2009
8:35 pm

Folks – it is WAY too early to start this kind of discussion.

In his first two season at QB – Peyton Manning had a 16 and 16 record with 52 TDs and 43 INTs. But, bear in mind that in his first season, the Colts were dead last in rushing, not first like Ryan.

If the Falcons win next Sunday, Ryan will start off his career with a 20 and 12 record; he currently has 33 TDs (that will likely go up) and 23 INTs.

Plus Ryan has the intangibles that very few QBs have. He commands leadership, he has shown the ability to command a drive and get a score in the 4th quarter and he is clearly intelligent enough to run an NFL offense.

Yes – this has been a disappointing year, but that happens in the NFL. The Falcons were lucky last year injury-wise, they were not lucky this year. We lost our slot receiver, 1st and 2nd round picks and best CB for the season. Our pro bowl RB missed a heckuva lot of the season. And the team still needs two OLBs as well. Plus, if Ryan had not missed the two most important games this season, I doubt that we would even be having this conversation. If Ryan was under center at the Dome against NOLA do any of you have any real doubts that the Falcons would have won that game?

Questioning Matt Ryan after only his second year is just plain stupid. The building blocks are in place folks; stop crying. It wasn’t that long ago that we were where St. Louis and Cleveland are now, continually floundering and changing coaches and personnel.

It’s been a frustrating season, but stay positive. We have a great shot at a winner next year and that’s the first time I have EVER felt good about this team 2 years in a row.

And, by the way, the Hawks look like they’re on the way to a 60 win season so go to some NBA games and the draft will be here in no time.

Peace.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:35 pm

Mark, are you sure about the sideline pass in Shreveport? i still have it. no bids on ebay yet.

NCFalconFan

December 27th, 2009
8:37 pm

Bradley, You and the rest of the media are so quick to build someone up and tear them down. Ryan had a great rookie year, but you along with Mike Mayock, Brian Billick and others attaching Ryan to Peyton Manning was just WRONG!!! I must admit that I might be bias, but I absolutlely love RYAN. You have to look at the tough schedule, no Michael Turner and Ryan getting hurt for the let down this season. During today’s game it was said that, he is still not able to take part in a full practice. Isn’t it fair to give a player three years in the league to judge him? Don’t you think it was wrong to compare a rookie to Peyton Manning, probably the best QB in NFL history? Give it time and think of QB situations around the league. We have a good situation. I keep going back to what you said at the beginning of the season, I believe Ryan cares to much to not be great!!

Kentucky Colonel

December 27th, 2009
8:37 pm

I believe that in a couple of years Ryan will be quarterback that is better than Eli – more consistent – but not as good as Peyton – sort of a Peyli….

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:38 pm

tell you what, i’ll send the pass to Mrs Bradley’s house and you can use it if you want.

BugKiller

December 27th, 2009
8:40 pm

You HATE sports films???

Okay, I can understand about some of the more treacly sport films of the past decade. Yeah, Remember the Titans and The Rookie are good… but man, they’ll give you a cavity.

You really should see Miracle, though. Besides being the best, non-Jack Burton performance of Kurt Russell’s career (Yessir, the check is in the mail!), the semi-final against Russia makes your heart pound in your chest, even though you know the outcome. And the best thing is, the hockey is real.

Also recommended, The Greatest Game Ever Played, about the US Open win by amateur Francis Ouimet over Harry Vardon one of the greatest golfers ever.

But come on man, are you saying you don’t like the Costner Trilogy? Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, and Tin Cup (I don’t recognize that chick-flick baseball movie he did with Travolta’s wife).

Seriously, you don’t like Field of Dreams???

My favorite film of all time, and definitely number one on the male-weepy film list.

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
8:41 pm

On a different note . . . . . .living in SE Florida . . . I’ll now have to listen to Sports Radio with a bunch of the old Dolphins (Mercury Morris) included spouting on about how they are the greatest and only undefeated team – with the Colts loss today. Really wanted the Pats to end that talk a few years ago . . .but alas. Well after their loss to the Texans today – their fans will be able to celebrate the one “bright spot”.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:43 pm

COD of course…

tell the truth

December 27th, 2009
8:46 pm

you banned me

TMoney

December 27th, 2009
8:48 pm

Once “Recent” Reader – I agree, I really think Ryan walked into a lions den here. Pretty much the only way he could have won the city over would be to have gone 16-0 last year winning the Super Bowl and be 15-0 so far this year. Of course, I’m sure some people would still say he wasn’t as good.

Frank Wren

December 27th, 2009
8:50 pm

Tin Cup was awful. Miracle was really good though.

Bang the drum slowly, The Natural, Brians Song, Bull Durham,

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:50 pm

i once took a trip to kentucky
thought with the girls i’d get lucky
but providence intervened
it wasnt my scene
found myself in the woods all a mucky

BugKiller

December 27th, 2009
8:50 pm

TMoney… it’s best not to even mention those people.

Although one was banned, we’re not sure if D-Led banned all of his different names, or the different people using his names.

Don’t rile up the lunatic fringe. Best to forget they even exist.

Frank Wren

December 27th, 2009
8:51 pm

I’ll now have to listen to Sports Radio with a bunch of the old Dolphins (Mercury Morris) included spouting on about how they are the greatest and only undefeated team –

I think in their heart of hearts even they know a modern team would tear them to shreds. Ill bet this Falcon team would wear them out.

This Gets Old

December 27th, 2009
8:52 pm

You know BugKiller I was going to write almost the exact same thing. With only one change and I feel stupid because I wrote all last season that we needed a TE. Well we got a great one but when Gonzo is in Ryan looks first to him and has frequently forced the ball to him.

Not only no screens (I counted one attempt in the Giants game and one against the Jets) but no draws. In fact more attempts at the reverse than those two types of plays combined. Also I think that a strong argument can be made that Turner did handle the ball too much last year.

BugKiller

December 27th, 2009
8:52 pm

Frank, you think Troy Glaus is the answer. Your opinion of the funny Tin Cup is invalid.

Haha.

Falcons 4 Real

December 27th, 2009
8:53 pm

No one can deny Ryan has had a sophomore slump but I still consider him way ahead of the curve. Remember Peyton Manning being knocked for not being able to win a significant game? 0-4 against Florida in college, no SEC titles and it was his 6th season in the NFL when he finally won a playoff game (think about Michael Vick winning a playoff game before Peyton Manning.) Now some consider him the best QB ever. Drew Brees was run out of San Diego before becoming a pro bowl mainstay with the Saints. Steve Young was 30 before he could read a defense. Troy Aikman was winless until his 2nd NFL season. Ryan is on his way to guiding the Falcons to a winning record in his first two seasons which is far more of an accomplishment than the afforementioned QBs

TMoney

December 27th, 2009
8:53 pm

BugKiller – Trust me, I know. I tried having logical discussions with them earlier in the season. I’m fairly sure their responses caused my IQ to drop a little bit.

BugKiller

December 27th, 2009
8:55 pm

@This Gets Old

The thing is, in any other business venture, you’re always supposed to be on the lookout for the best.

Charlie Weis is far, FAR better than Mike Mularky. It isn’t even close.

And yet, the Falcons will just stand pat and do nothing as KC or Buffalo picks up Weis, while Mularky will be gone, much like Martinez, two years too late.

Big Ray

December 27th, 2009
8:55 pm

Bugkiller ,

Actually, it’s not just the name you ban. It’s the IP address as well.

Frank Wren

December 27th, 2009
8:56 pm

Frank, you think Troy Glaus is the answer. Your opinion of the funny Tin Cup is invalid.

Tin Cup had its moments. But the ending just killed it. Awful

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
8:57 pm

in kentucky i ran bootleg whisky
it really wasnt so risky
the sheriff didnt care
as long as i’d share
the moonshine i called majiskie

Mitch (the one in Rome)

December 27th, 2009
8:59 pm

I’m getting in late on this conversation, but Mark, I’m hating that you are asking this question now. Dude, he is a year 2 QB in the NFL fighting for a winning season. Seen the Super Bowl champs lately and their stud QB? The point is the age old “on any given day”. I coach line backers in a cover 8 defense in high school, and we are under sized, but the fact is we beat teams we should not and we get beat by teams we should not be beaten by.

Ryan is far better than the average QB in the NFL. Eli has a super bowl ring. He is not bad.

And you know what, he managed a hell of a game for a dude with turf toe. That crap hurts and he did it with a limp. Hell, I admire him for going. As a coach, I like him and would take a team of dudes with his attitude and ability. He makes this team better. Period.

yo mama

December 27th, 2009
8:59 pm

if ryan and the falcons get a W next week, no qb, coach, GM. team president can say that they put together back to back winning seasons. TD gutted the D, will get compensation picks, which looks like he comes out looking like a genius, gets the extra picks for staying his ground on free agency(which was lite on D last year), then heck yeah Matty Ice is on his way for sure. Imagine a couple close games we won last year when we didnt deserve. chicago, tampa at home, so, make those losses and we are 9-7 and dont make the playoffs. We are who we thought we are, a winning ballclub. get a clue mark, we are who we thought we are.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
9:02 pm

we’re packing the bags with a plan
honey, i’ve rented a van
Mark, that’s a long way mother’s
we’ll stop at no others
i wish we had taken air tran

Joeyt

December 27th, 2009
9:03 pm

Matt Ryan is Matt Ryan. Like any other young QB he has to (and wants to) improve every week. I have no problems with what Ryan has done this year. In fact, his work, for the most part, makes me proud to be a Matt Ryan and an Atlanta Falcons fan. I am excited about next year, even though I wish we could have made the playoffs this year. Over the past several weeks, we can all tell the team as a whole has gotten better, especially on the defensive side of the ball. I think and hope this momentum gets us going next year. Go Falcons! Beat the Suckaneers!

Joey Harrington

December 27th, 2009
9:10 pm

NO is done, hahahaha.

TD

December 27th, 2009
9:11 pm

I want a raise.

TD

December 27th, 2009
9:11 pm

Can’t believe Mark Suckchez is in the hunt to for the playoffs.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:12 pm

Who would you rather?

Ryan
Flacco
Stafford
Sanchez

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
9:14 pm

Interestingly enough, Matt Ryan said today he thought Marty Booker should have been “the AirTran Airways player of the game.” Does he know product placement or what?

JP

December 27th, 2009
9:15 pm

Mark,

Didn’t you already write the “Won’t the world end if Matt Ryan doesn’t develop into the greatest quarterback of all-time?” article earlier this season?

bravefalconhawk

December 27th, 2009
9:15 pm

There’s only 1 Peyton Manning

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:16 pm

Ryan represents Air Tran well.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
9:17 pm

I did like “Field of Dreams,” I must admit. And “Chariots of Fire.” But “Hoosiers” made me gag. Pretty much anything related to the state of Indiana has that effect on me. (I am, as noted, from Kentucky.)

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:17 pm

BFH, you are exaclty right. When Payton is done, he could be the best QB to have ever played the game.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:18 pm

C’mon, you were not a little choked up when he said “Coach Stays”.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:19 pm

How does Jim Mora have a job coaching in the NFL?

falcon21

December 27th, 2009
9:19 pm

I know Marty dropped a beautiful throw from Ryan today.

BugKiller

December 27th, 2009
9:24 pm

that’s right.

there’s only one Peyton Manning.

And even that guy ain’t as good as one Tom Brady.

Give me Tom Brady with all of the weapons Peyton Manning had in his career (Edgerin James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, etc) and Brady would have willed the Colts to 5 or 6 Super Bowl wins.

The rap on Peyton Manning is as true today as it ever was.

He doesn’t win big games. Other teams hand him the win.

Never beat Florida. Georgia beating Florida in 1997 is what gave him his lone SEC Title. Then he went out and got destroyed in the National Championship Game.

Won a Super Bowl because the Bears handed them that game. I don’t care how badly Kerry Collins or Rich Gannon (not Gannon’s fault, BTW, Gruden had the Tampa defense know exactly what was coming on EVERY play… that’s Bill Callahan’s fault) played in their Super Bowls: Rex Grossman is, to this day, the worst QB to ever play in a Super Bowl. Yeah, and that includes Tony Eason, too.

Tom Brady with all of Manning’s talent at receiver, running back, o-line, and tight end has at least 5 rings and every single record in the book.

Tom Brady is the only player who can challenge Joe Montana, Otto Graham, and Johnny Unitas for greatest QB ever.

I don’t care how many numbers Manning puts up. He’s behind Brady in the only numbers that matter, and he’ll find someway to choke in the playoffs this year, too.

Phillip Rivers is going to win the Super Bowl this year.

Timbo

December 27th, 2009
9:24 pm

Ryan has been disappointing this season for sure . . .

Mattie Lice

December 27th, 2009
9:25 pm

Help! Michael Vick is in town!

falcon21

December 27th, 2009
9:29 pm

Manup and shut um up MB.

BugKiller

December 27th, 2009
9:29 pm

And hear we have the lowest-common denominator: the Mike Vick Fan.

It took this idiot a full two hours to find this page. I think they’re slipping, as far as idiot movements go.

BugKiller

December 27th, 2009
9:30 pm

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
9:30 pm

Oh . . .it must be that time of night again as the one-liner messages proclaim. I really wonder what goes on the few hours before this time every Sunday night with a certain poster:)

jimbob

December 27th, 2009
9:31 pm

He’s no Perry Klein, but we need to stick with him and support him. Didn’t it take Bradshaw a few seasons to become a HOF type QB?

Would be good if the Falcons had a Wes Welker type of player, someone other than Gonzo that you can really count on to catch the ball when the chips are down.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:31 pm

Keith Brooking is getting the last laugh.

BugKiller

December 27th, 2009
9:32 pm

They had him. His name was Harry Douglas. He was lost for the year without ever playing a game that matters.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:32 pm

That is what Harry Douglas was, Jenkins just does not belong in the slot.

Falcons are buzzards

December 27th, 2009
9:32 pm

Enter your comments here

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
9:32 pm

Marty Booker: GREAT!

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:33 pm

Philly going to the playoffs, Vick gets demoted. That says all that needs to be said.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:33 pm

Plus, Ryan represents Air Tran better.

Bank Walker, Texas Ranger

December 27th, 2009
9:33 pm

to answer your question MB, no, Eli will not do. Now I am stressed out and will be taking a leave of absence on my roundhouse kicking duties.

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
9:34 pm

Bugkiller . . .my sentiments exactly. Not sure what happened to my post a few minutes ago, but I mentioned it must be that time of night again. I also questioned what a certain poster is doing for the few hours b4 every Sunday night. It is like clockwork though. Well I imagine we’ll have quite a few more of the quick hitter and inane posts.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:35 pm

Wow, did you see that play? It brings back memories.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
9:35 pm

speaking of hockey, did i see where al micheals died?

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:36 pm

Eli has a ring, I would settle for Trent Dilfer.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:38 pm

One thing I liked about Vick, you do be do think he do be going one thing, but he do be doing another, know mean?

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
9:39 pm

Testing . . ..messages not getting through.

BugKiller

December 27th, 2009
9:39 pm

Uh… Al Michaels is alive and well.

Unlike your coaching career, Soft Willie, which is as dead as a doornail. Two years too late.

Bank Walker, Texas Ranger

December 27th, 2009
9:40 pm

if Al is dead, then the guy doing the Dallas game sounds just like him

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
9:41 pm

Weird. . .well test message got through. Will try this again: Bugkiller . . . I had written a post regarding the certain poster that starts the nonsense messages about this time each Sunday night. Swiss watches couldn’t get the timing down better. I also wondered what that Poster is doing for the hours before this time to get into such a state to write such . . . drivel:)

Bank Walker, Texas Ranger

December 27th, 2009
9:42 pm

Saints are peaking at the right time

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
9:42 pm

I believe there was another person in sports world named Al Michaels who died around XMas day. I think he was a Public Announcer for some team.

Joseph

December 27th, 2009
9:43 pm

If we had a few field golas go through. this bad falcons team would already be in the playoffs, even with all of the injuries, not bad….

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
9:44 pm

Very strange that 3 of my messages did not go thru. One last time – Bugkiller that poster who comes on the same time each Sunday with nonsense is more reliable than a Swiss watch.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
9:44 pm

SOME broadcaster named micheals just died.

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
9:44 pm

I also wonder what that poster is doing to get in such a state the hours before the “Posting Witching Hour”:)

Kevin G.

December 27th, 2009
9:45 pm

I think personally Matt Ryan is one of the most overrated quarterbacks in NFL history and this is coming from a diehard Falcons game. If we didnt pay him so much money i would give him up for someone else in a heartbeat. But I guess since he is staying in Atlanta for a while then our best chance to do something is to build a great defense and get the run game back going.

BugKiller

December 27th, 2009
9:47 pm

I nominate Kevin G. for Douche Bag of the Night.

BugKiller

December 27th, 2009
9:48 pm

Kevin G., are you Kenny G’s brother?

Yet another reason to nominate you for Douche Bag of the Night!

Ron Roberts

December 27th, 2009
9:48 pm

Is there a weekly AJC.com quota you guys have to meet for “stirring up” the “MV7/Matt Ryan” back-and-forth?

Because, frankly, this is a re-run, Mark. I’ve long enjoyed your columns (and more recently, your blogs); but this drum beat’s getting old.

When you (again) dredge up this convesation (aka “an opportunity for the moronic MV7 jackals to bloviate in their ignorant dialect”), also note, please, that Ryan’s being asked to throw the ball more this year than last, and has YET to reach INT figures that Peyton Manning did in his first five seasons (28, 15, 15, 23, 19).

I find it pointless to compare a 2nd year quarterback to ANY other NFL quarterback at this stage in his career, anyhow; I just know he’s one game shy of getthing this franchise to its 2nd consecutive winning season and he’s darn near unbeatable at home. Let’s give him his full complement of offensive weapons for a full year, and a defense that actually defends against quality opposition and see where his W-L record and statistics are.

Could he be better? Sure; but how many mediocre seasons did Drew Brees encounter before he got to where he is now? Drew Brees was always saddled with the bad rap for not having a longball in his arsenal and now every fantasy player would love to have drafted him first. Same could be said for Peyton Manning.

I know we’re an “instant gratification” society, but he’s played 30 pro grames; judging his abilities and accomplishments now is MORE than a bit premature.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
9:49 pm

thanks Once. best, willie

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
9:51 pm

as long as the late PA announcer wasnt Brook Whitmire.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
9:57 pm

Indeed, JimBob, Bradshaw wasn’t the starter in Week 1 the season the Steelers won their first Super Bowl. The late Joe Gilliam was.

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:58 pm

Ryan is 13-1 at home, you don’t do that if you are not pretty good. His best attribute is to make plays in the 4th quarter.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
9:59 pm

yes, i remember jefferson street joe. what was that other qb’s name (terry?)

Mr Charlie

December 27th, 2009
9:59 pm

Vick got demoted. Nuff said about that.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
9:59 pm

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
9:59 pm

George Michael died. He hosted the syndicated show, “The Sports Machine.”

Also sang in Wham!

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
10:00 pm

Very good, Coach. The Steelers actually changed quarterbacks three times that season — Gilliam to Bradshaw to Hanratty to Bradshaw — before deciding on the guy who wound up in Canton.

Vick Supporter

December 27th, 2009
10:01 pm

Ryan will be ok, he just won’t be as good as you thought he would be, just like I said. Ryan will be a good QB, a Chad Pennington 2.0…and I don’t mean that as an insult. Pennington was a very good QB, but we all know that most times you can’t win a SB with a QB like that. The exception is Montana…he was just a master of the game. Ryan has the intelligence to see the game like Montana, but it don’t matter if you can’t get the ball to the recievers with some anticipation.

That’s one thing that Vick will get better at and he knows that’s the key to being a great QB. I really believe that he knows that his speed will always be there. Ryan and Vick will both be good QBs

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:03 pm

Mark, you’re kidding: George Micheal of tears for fears?

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
10:03 pm

Thx MB . . . ..sorry Willie . . I was going to say the info I got was in a convoluted conversation with folks that knew little about sports XMas Day – but they knew “enough” to say Al Michaels died, then a different Al Michaels (not Miracle on Ice Fame) who was a PA . . then George Michael . . . .and NOT the Wham singer:) Ah what a twisted grapevine that discussion was.

Buffalo Bills

December 27th, 2009
10:04 pm

This just in: Ryan became first opposing QB with 100 rating this year against the Bills.
That includes Brady (twice), Brees, Vince Young, and Matt Schaub.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
10:04 pm

The George Michael of “Sports Machine” did die, alas. The George Michael of Wham! lives on. I was making a bad little joke.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:06 pm

it was VERY VERY bad. my wife’s heart skipped a beat.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:09 pm

alas and alack. my heroes are passing from the scene with unsettling rapidity.

Tommy

December 27th, 2009
10:10 pm

Matt Ryan is the Troy Aikman or Phil Simms of our time. He can’t win a Super Bowl singlehandedly, like Peyton did in 2006, but he makes everyone around him better, and has a knack for the big play at the right time (that completion on 4th and 12 today sealed the win).

The guy is a winner. Period. Get the running game healthy, upgrade the defense, and get Harry Douglas healthy, and watch this team go nuts. Just about everything that could go wrong this year did go wrong, and they are gunning for a winning season next week. The Old Falcons would be 4-11 right now.

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Tron5000

December 27th, 2009
10:10 pm

Peyton didn’t win a Super Bowl until Indy’s defense was top-notch. The same will be true or the Falcons and Matt Ryan. TD surely knows this, as 7 of his 8 draft picks last year were on the defensive side of the ball. He stocked the cupboard with young talent, and hopefully he can make a splash or 2 in free agency.

Notable 2010 free agents: DTs Richard Seymour (sure to energize the UGA fan base) and Vince Wilfork, DEs Julius Peppers, Elvis Dumervil, Kyle Vanded Bosch, Adwale Ogunleye, Jevon Kearse and Leonard Little, OLBs Shawne Merriman, Thomas Davis, Derrick Johnson, Keith Bulluck and Bertrand Berry, CBs Dunta Robinson, Ellis Hobbs, Tim Jennings, Dre Bly and Nick Harper and Ss Antoine Bathea, Darren Sharper, Nick Collins, Dawan Landry and Jermaine Phillips.

Plus, the Falcons get back Perria Jerry, William Moore and Brian Williams. Thats like 3 extra FAs coming in.

We all know Mr. Blank has no problem opening his checkbook for quality talent. Let’s just hope Mr. Dimitroff makes the right moves. And I’d say his track record would indicate that he will.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:10 pm

No sports player, even Herschel Walker, gave me the thrills like Larry Munson did. My dad gave me that gift, and i passed it to my son.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:12 pm

Mark, sorry if you never had anyone like Munson cheering your team on. Must be difficult to appear to be impartial.

FalconUGAFan

December 27th, 2009
10:15 pm

VS I agree with you. I think Ryan will be ok and then some. He is doing pretty close to what he is being paid to do. He isn’t here to win the games by himself. He is here to play his part. We have seen what happens when a player EXPECTS and is EXPECTED to win a game by himself. I think Art has learned his lesson. Don’t rely on one player alone.

Mrs. Bradley

December 27th, 2009
10:15 pm

Mark, will you get off that darn blog?? we have to get up early in the morning!!!

comedy

December 27th, 2009
10:16 pm

what is this a comedy blog? Posts of players that are not on your team. Comparisons of QBs past. Long three paragraghs of bloviating, which appears to be wanna be journalists. You might have a nice opinion, but keep it short and sweet.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:17 pm

comedy: read it and weep..best, willie

comedy

December 27th, 2009
10:20 pm

willie…..now that was short and sweet. thanks.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:20 pm

i think the year of the immaculate reception was ‘74, after gilliam was cut.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:21 pm

no problem comedy. best, willie

Sonny Clusters

December 27th, 2009
10:21 pm

We was well on our way to the state championship when Coach had heart palpitations and had to sit one out. When Coach first started showing symptoms Stinky Wintes was our designated CPR giver and he was ready but Coach said they was no way Stinky Wintes was ever touching his lips to Coach’s. Coach never even considered giving up coaching altogether – just sitting one out while the palpitations settled.

chris watson

December 27th, 2009
10:23 pm

Ryan completed better than 50% of his passes with 3 touchdowns & zero interceptions. Mark, did you happen to look at Tom Brady’s numbers from last week against the Bills? I believe his passer rating was 59 for that game.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:24 pm

Sonny, do you think the principal saw us?

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
10:25 pm

Immaculate Reception was Dec. 23, 1972.

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
10:25 pm

Comedy . . . . as so articulately put in the movie Stripes . . .”Lighten up Francis”:)

Sonny Clusters

December 27th, 2009
10:25 pm

Coach ate a lot of bacon. Bacon sandwiches mostly. When those palpitations started Coach had a bacon sandwich in his hand. When they wheeled him off he had that sandwich with him. Legend has it he finished that sandwich in the emergency room.

Butch Cassidy

December 27th, 2009
10:25 pm

Why am i on this blog?

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:26 pm

so i missed it by a couple of years. i was there.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:29 pm

yeah, frenchy fuqua got hit and franco caught the ball. but who was the oakland db that hit him?

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:30 pm

jack “the thug” tatum

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:31 pm

i believe tatum was also the guy that crippled darryl stingley.

NuffSaid

December 27th, 2009
10:35 pm

Vick is through for whomever said Ryan and Vick will both be very good QB’s. Ryan is at the beginning of his career, Vick is a gimmick. Vick has been in the league since 2001 and has never shown he can throw. 9 years, oh I mean 7 years (don’t count the 2 he spent in prison).

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:36 pm

i have to admit, i always wanted Staubauch and the Cowboys to win, but that Steerlers team was something else: Bradshaw, Mike Webster, Moon Mullins, Mean Joe, Jack Lambert, etal.

Maybe the best of all time.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:38 pm

Ernie Holmes and Dwight White. none any better.

2000s: Most successful Falcons decade to date...

December 27th, 2009
10:41 pm

Just crunching the numbers and, yes, the 2000s will go down as the winningest decade for the Falcons, at 74-84-1 (.465 pct), with a chance at not only back-to-back winning seasons, but also our 4th winning season this decade (tied with the 90s and 70s with 3 right now). I choose to look at the glass as half-full–being a fan since the early 80s, I remember those 4-12 years all too well–so I appreciate that most years this decade we were in the hunt, and hopefully w/ the foundation in place the 20-teens will be a step up from the aughts.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:41 pm

Best left side OL of all time: Gene Upshaw and Art Shell

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
10:42 pm

All that led Chuck Knoll to acknowledge there was a “criminal element” in the NFL. Sounds laughable now.

Gdawg 84

December 27th, 2009
10:48 pm

Ryan has looked tentative all season. He errs on the side of caution to a fault, seemingly heaving 30%-40% of his passes out of bounds. It looks like he nneds to be more confident and decisive-but then what do I know?

comedy

December 27th, 2009
10:57 pm

once recent reader……..apoligies for the slow response. But, a man has to eat and drink and not in that particular order. thanks for the poltico waxing though.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
10:59 pm

I think the interceptions got to Ryan, Gdawg. And I agree that he’s being too cautious now.

WM named Atlanta TC

December 27th, 2009
11:02 pm

Kasim Reed has announced Willie Martinez as Atlanta’s new traffic coordinator. In a press release Reed said that by hiring WM and giving WM the express goal of stopping all traffic, we feel based on his past performance on stopping forward progress, that traffic should flow smoothly in Atlanta for years to come.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:05 pm

Mark, there’s always some cynic in the crowd.

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
11:12 pm

Comedy . . . .welcome. And thx for taking no offense of my long desire to quote from Stripes:)

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
11:12 pm

Yes, and I’m usually the cynic.

WM named Atlanta TC

December 27th, 2009
11:12 pm

Nothing to be ashamed of WM. The Steelers had the Steel Curtain, you had The Steel Sieve. Both legendary, in their own way.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
11:13 pm

I will now fulfill my “Stripes” desire:

“Blowed up, SIR!”

“ARRRRRMy training, SIR!”

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
11:14 pm

Also: “That’s the fact, Jack!”

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
11:14 pm

I agree on Ryan’s tentativeness. Never saw him even give a thought to throwing the ball away while at BC. Of course that might have resulted in the 19 or so Ints his Senior year there. We weren’t complaining though as he more than made up for them with his overall play and leadership during his BC tenure.

DK

December 27th, 2009
11:14 pm

I think that you should make the comparison to what could have been. The armchair GMs wanted to take Glen Dorsey with the first pick and plug in one Brian Brohm as the Falcon quarterback. I like what we have and it makes no sense to compare Matt with quarterbacks on other teams. Especially in his second year.

pilgrim

December 27th, 2009
11:15 pm

The O line not being able to handle the pass rush when the Falcons were behind hurt Ryan’s accuracy this year.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
11:15 pm

Also: “Heh-hey, GUYS.” (Said by the Harold Ramis character as he and Bill Murray re-enter the barracks after a night on the town.)

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
11:16 pm

Actually “Blowed up Sir” was right up there in my book. I just found more opportunity to utilize “Lighten Up Francis” since the 80s . . . .. . unfortunately much too much opportunity!

WM named Atlanta TC

December 27th, 2009
11:16 pm

Einstein once said “Imagine light traveling through a vacuum.” A student asked if that explained the relationship between space and time and Einstein replied “No young man; that explains Willie Martinez’ defense”

Thank you, thank you, we’ll be here through Friday; and don’t forget to tip your server.

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
11:20 pm

MB . . . another “unfortunately” . . . is how that movie went directly DOWNHILL after they “graduated” from basic training!!! I guess that would be equivalent to an earlier posters comment on how Chris Chandler often could not get in done in the 4th. (Gotta sprinkle in some football . . .I guess.)

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:22 pm

and the lean, mean, fightin’ machine!@

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
11:23 pm

Agree with that, O”R”R. That stuff in Europe was a snooze.

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
11:23 pm

And another thing I noticed in TMoney’s earlier 8 QB stats post . . .. . .I always read how Ryan is dinking and dunking . . . .but overall it seems his yards per reception is in the same vicinity as the so called bombers . ..Manning, Brady, .. .Brees now too.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:23 pm

i especially liked the spatula scene in the colonel’s house.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
11:26 pm

And who can forget John Larroquette with his binoculars?

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
11:29 pm

“But this one goes to 11″ and ” . . .amadillos in our trousers” – two nonsensical quotes. What movie? Oh and for football . . . are we sure the Falcs need an RB at least in early rounds? I liked what I’ve seen from Snelling and Norwood looked tough today. I know he is injury prone. (I promise that will be my last movie trivia question!)

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:30 pm

i thought larroquette was in pvt benjamin

WM named Atlanta TC

December 27th, 2009
11:30 pm

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:31 pm

that movie started my mud wrestling carrer.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:32 pm

for years i had nighmares about john candy bringing me breakfast in bed.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:33 pm

spam blockers working ot mark

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
11:34 pm

WM named Atl TC . … .on target. If you’ve seen the movie – you’ve probably seen it multiple times for the ridiculous great quotes. I just know a lot of folks have missed out on that one!!

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
11:36 pm

Spinal Tap it is!! Great quotes and many folks have missed out on a hilarious movie or “Rockudrama/comedy”. Most of us who have seen it . . .have seen it many times:) It’s like a “fine wine” just gets better.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:36 pm

dont we have to get up early and drive to maysville?

random thoughts

December 27th, 2009
11:37 pm

You would think the makers of SPAM™ would be upset with Internet junk mail being called spam wouldn’t you?

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
11:38 pm

Actually – is Willie Martinez the Falcs D coach or GA D coach??

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:39 pm

i’ve got the alarm clock set at five
dont worry, I’ll drive
we’ll be to mom’s soon
just afternoon

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
11:39 pm

I think the makers of SPAM have no conscience:)

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:40 pm

once, do you live under a rock?

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:41 pm

i hate the thing spam
its really a sham
edits what i say
on every day
especially when i sing just as i am

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
11:44 pm

willie . . . . sometimes:) Actually, I’ve always liked Falcons but started following on AJC when they drafted Ryan. I’m a BC grad that lived in Boston until moving to SE Florida in 2001. So I don’t know much about the Bulldogs staff other than Richt, and other than Mike Smith – I don’t really know Falcs staff either. That’s my story and I’m sticking by it:)

random thoughts

December 27th, 2009
11:45 pm

Lately he’s been overheard in Maysville
Better stay away Bradley,
He’ll rip your lungs out gladly
Ha! I’d like to meet his tailor

Ahoooooooooo, werewolves of Bluegrass

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:45 pm

Once, do you have time for my bio?

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:46 pm

My God Almighty, this blog brings out the worst in prose at times.

Mark Bradley

December 27th, 2009
11:47 pm

We do, Willie. And I’m signing off for the night. Thanks for your patronage through this long Sunday.

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
11:47 pm

Hah. Yeah got a little long there – but wanted to explain my ignorance on WM.

Once "Recent" Reader

December 27th, 2009
11:48 pm

MB have a good trip and vacation. Enjoyed being on the Live Chats this season!

random thoughts

December 27th, 2009
11:50 pm

My God Almighty Willie, I do believe I represent that remark.

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:50 pm

Mark, safe travels to you and family. Happy new year. Best, willie

random thoughts

December 27th, 2009
11:54 pm

willie martinez

December 27th, 2009
11:55 pm

comedy

December 28th, 2009
12:03 am

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robertussen

December 28th, 2009
12:04 am

after a completely dominating performance this is what you come up with?!?! YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE MEDIA! this kid is coming off turf toe (a serious injury that some retire from) to play for a team that wont make the playoffs and he just wants to win and seems to do a pretty darn good job of it. you call this news i call it trash if you want to jump off the band waggon then go right ahead buddy dwell in your negativity you sad man

Atlanta Peach

December 28th, 2009
1:10 am

Choke, “Howd you Doin” ?!!!!!!

dizzy5dean

December 28th, 2009
1:33 am

Matt is still developing and should improve as his career continues. Its hard to say if he is Eli or Peyton, but he ain’t Vick, that goodness. I hope he is like Peyton.

JASon

December 28th, 2009
2:25 am

BugKiller 6:36pm, 6:47pm:

You, sir, are the man. I have been trying to say this all season, but you lay out the points unlike I could have nor I’ve seen on any blog. Its the coaches who are to blame. I had not thought of Weis because I hate ND so much. But you make solid points as to why to go after him, and at the end of the day I can’t say I disagree with you. Great job with your posts.

JSS

December 28th, 2009
2:31 am

Well let me put this “BugKiller play calling scheme to bed once and for all…

Point by point (sorry to do this, but it has to be done…)
“Why does the offense NEVER throw screen passes to take the pressure off the o-line?”
IT IS SIMPLE… The Falcons max protect with their running backs more than any other team in professional football! Say what you like about Mularkey, but he is deeply schooled in the Pittsburgh Steeelers school of running screens (2nd best in football behind the Philadelphia Eagles scheme). But this teams line is not stout enough to pull off running screens. When you run effectively, play action works, when play action works, your deep game opens up. When you can not do that linebackers do not respect the screen game… That is why the Falcons can not pull that off at present… Now you should not pay respect to what Michael Turner pulled off last season, it was astonishing…

“Why does Mularky continually call for roll-outs to the SHORT side of the field, taking 2/3’s of the field away from Ryan?”
Because your tackles and center need help!!! Teams crush our tackles with speed… Clabo and Baker have to have Peelle and the running backs to stay in and chip or straight block with them. The way you help that is to roll away from the defensive strength. And because the element of Turner at his best has been taken away this season, then the risk of “leak” draw is gone. You are damned if you do, and crushed if you don’t… Example, see the play on which Ryan suffered the infamous turf toe injury…

“Why isn’t Mularky calling the downfield passes like he did last year?”
If you look at the hold time for the Falcons Offensive line, it simply can not keep out other teams defensive fronts to allow downfield throws… When you add teams with any type of sophisticated blitz scheme and it goes to tatters… Examples: The Philly game, the Giants game, and for heavens sake: The 1st Bucs game… The greatest one was when the Pats dismantled the O-Line… It was trip to the wood shop…

“I was worried, a little, going into the year, when Mularky said he took about 1/4 of the playbook offline.”
If you go back to the 3/4 point of last season, teams had figured out the Falcons… The playoff game was the cultivation of that matter. The Cardinals slammed us from halftime on… They even knew the snap counts! The OC is only as good as the pieces, the loss of Douglass and for that matter Turner left you with a shell of a offense like that of which Vick had around him. Matt Ryan with just Gonzalez and White only scares bad football teams.

scottbravesfan

December 28th, 2009
2:45 am

Get back to me in year 4 and 5 of Matt Ryan being the starter then you will have an understanding of where he is.

scottbravesfan

December 28th, 2009
2:46 am

And Bradley if you really think that the Buffalo Bills would lose to Alabama you are delusional.

Eric C.

December 28th, 2009
3:42 am

Ryan hit first…the league hit back this year, watch for a better season from Ryan next season…especially if the defense can improve.

jerry

December 28th, 2009
6:18 am

Accuracy. Ryan does not have Manning (either) or Brady accuracy. Maybe later, maybe never.

Frank Wren

December 28th, 2009
6:39 am

that’s what happens when you have no offense line to help him. He’s been hit all year…Dmitroff needs to revamp that line to give ryan some protection

Required Reading | Hard Knox Sports

December 28th, 2009
7:16 am

[...] Ryan is more Eli than Peyton. [AJC] [...]

mar1049

December 28th, 2009
7:19 am

Hmmmmm.. still talking about Mr Vick I see. He’s on a playoff team but lets put the ills of the falconettes on him. With all the stellar qualities heaped on Ice Ryan, please tell me where the team is listed among the playoff contenders. I watched Sunday but for some reason I did not see Atlanta listed. Was there something wrong with my glasses? The guy is an ok qb but as long as the team does not make the show that is what he always will be, ok. Stop with the Manning stuff and get a life.

snapshot

December 28th, 2009
7:49 am

give his a little time and he will be one of the best in the NFL.

bob

December 28th, 2009
7:51 am

How would Peyton have done playing on the same two Falcons teams Ryan started with? The Colts throw the ball 40-50 times per game. Would Payton have been as good under Malarkey and his system, and with the Falcons receivers instead of Harrison and Wayne? The colts also have a defense and have had one for several years. Hard to compare QB’s under different systems and with different talent around them. If we get a pass rush next year, I bet our defensive backfield, with the same guys will show significant improvement

Bill

December 28th, 2009
8:06 am

1. His numbers are better than P. Manning first and second year
2. He’s hurt
3. The running back is hurt
4. The probowl kicker misses 2 – we miss the playoffs
5. He is not P. Manning, E. Manning, D. Brees, B. Farve, etc – he is Matt Ryan – and this whole subject takes no talent
6. Did you miss class the day they taught Journalism?

Dr. Andy

December 28th, 2009
8:10 am

Hey guys, I have been reading all or most of these comments for the last 4 pages. I just have one comment.

Back before the 90’s it was common practice for rookie QB’s to spend the first 3 to 5 years on the bench before ever starting a game. Today, the salaries are so big that they are forced into action in year one. We now have a situation where the QB is learning in public instead of behind the scenes. Ryan is doing great in his public training camp and has a tremendous up side.

suwaneedawg

December 28th, 2009
8:11 am

All winning QB’s are surrounded by two needed qualities, a solid running game and a great defense. Go back and look at the super bowl seasons of Starr, Montana, Brady and let’s not forget Elway did not get his ring until Davis and a stout defense. Ryan is in his second year with a still rebuilding defense and a limp running game this year. Let’s wait until we have the all the cylinders before we decide if Ryan is the right QB.

Alan

December 28th, 2009
8:14 am

Mark, for once in your life wake up and smell the roses and quit putting out colums like this one which will do only one thing, STIR UP THE NAYSAYERS.
I would like to know if you can answer this question for me, how many 2nd year phenoms such as Matty have face the following and yet had a better second year.
1-Defense, if you can’t get the opposition off the field you can’t score(this is called putting pressure on the offense).
2-Your running back and his backup stay injured for the greater part of the season, eliminating that threat and placing the burden on the passing game.
3-Your receivers can’t get seperation on passing routes thus making absolute pinpoint accuracy necessary, few expierence QB’s can overcome that at times.
4-The decline in the offensive line compared to last years sucessful line(look at the sack comparisons) and the fact that they lost the advantage in run blocking.
5-Lack of adjustment in the offensive and defensive coordinators, there were times that a college or high school coordinator could have read what was taking place on the field and made the necessary adjustments.

This team as a whole has had to fight for everything that they have acheived, nothing has been given to them, yet it doesn’t way on one mans shoulders. I have not seen infighting and blame, I have seen togetherness and hard work across the board and yes I have seen Matty stand up to the questions and not hang his head and quit.
Now why don’t you see if youcan get those answers for me, I would really like to hear from you.

GO FALCONS AND GO SOUTHERN RUSH, YOU DESERVE BETTER SUPPORT THAN YOU HAVE RECEIVED AND I AM PROUD OF YOU.

jmh

December 28th, 2009
8:24 am

Quarterbacks are scrutinized to the nth degree these days. I recently watched the NFC Championship game between the Cowboys and the Niners. The game dubbed “The Catch”. Joe Montana threw three interceptions that day and misfired on numerous passes and yet his place in the annuls of football history is secure. Winning superbowls and making plays in the clutch defined his career and made him a star. Statistics are misleading. The key to becoming a great quarterback is the ability to overcome adversity and make the plays when they count. Can the lead their teams to victory and are the cool under pressure.

Based on what I’ve seen of Matty Ice in his first two years, I don’t think there is any real argument. They young man is a franchise quarterback! He is a leader and a winner. He has the same DNA as all of the great quarterbacks. I’ve been a Falcon fan since Atlanta was awarded a franchise. I am loving the direction of this team and the fact that we have a potential HOF under center.

Boast74

December 28th, 2009
8:43 am

Ryan can be a better quarterback instantly if he shows a will to step up in the pocket and not lateral. Everytime he drops back and his 1st option is not available, he bails left or right automatically which completely eliminates half of the field and his options. If he steps into the pocket with his eyes downfield, then his options will increase and his percentage of completion will increase…ala Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers, Tony Romo, Aaron Rodgers and even Joe Flacco.

Birdseed: December 28, 2009

December 28th, 2009
8:55 am

[...] If Matt Ryan isn’t Peyton Manning but Eli, is that enough?, Atlanta Journal-Constitution Valid points but, at the end of the day, quarterbacks are judged on wins and losses. Let’s also not forget this is only Ryan’s second game back after turf toe. [...]

TB Buc Backer

December 28th, 2009
8:56 am

Who dat??

Suckers.

WonderDawg

December 28th, 2009
9:22 am

How about “Mystery, Alaska” for sports movies? Very re-watchable…

Bored of the Go-Dawg Nation

December 28th, 2009
9:25 am

Does anyone recall any gushing about Drew Brees his 1st 2 years? He got shipped out after another 1st rd QB was drafted during his tenure. Aaron Rodgers? I seem to recall a 2nd rd pick spent on Brian Brohm after Rodgers’ preseason and relief efforts 2 years ago. Philip Rivers? His longest pass for his 1st 2 years were passes that travelled 5 yards to LT who then ran them 50 additional. These are who are now considered ELITE QBs. Give it TIME before you tear down the best thing thats happened to our franchise in its existence. Most guys cant even beat out the incumbent the first 2 years. We were easily spoiled by year one. Compare yr 2 with the current elites, then I believe we have much to look forward to in the coming decade.

MIKE

December 28th, 2009
9:28 am

Mark, You cannot even be positive without making it sound negative. Give it a break.

CR

December 28th, 2009
9:29 am

Mark Bradley refers to Matt Ryan as, “the greatest rookie quarterback in league history.” Let’s compare Ryan’s rookie year to those of some other notable QBs.
– Dan Marino 1983: 7-2 record, 96.0 rating
– Ben Roethlisberger 2004: 13-0, 98.1
– Joe Flacco 2008: 11-5, 87.7
– Matt Ryan 2008: 11-5, 80.3
Ryan was good as a rookie, but let’s not get carried away.

C'mon Man

December 28th, 2009
9:33 am

“Matty Ice hasn’t been as precise in Year 2.” YEAR 2. Patience people, patience. How were the Saint’s past two seasons? This column is nothing but web-traffic bait. And I guess it worked. Your doing the man and the team a disservice.

WonderDawg

December 28th, 2009
9:42 am

jmh, I agree. I could care less what the completion % or “rating” of the QB is. Just get a win. I’ll bet Terry Bradshaw’s career numbers aren’t very pretty, but he could lead his team, and he could make plays under pressure. And he could win. Ryan is a winner. Just needs a few more playmakers around him.

garcia

December 28th, 2009
9:47 am

Matt Ryan was a better QB when his back side was protected. Baker is fine, but his injuries have put Ryan in a dangerous position.

Most people think that the Falcons should draft a defender in the first round. I am a firm believer that we should take the best LT available. Move Baker to his natural RT position, where his affinity to injuries will not be such a problem. One Ryan is given a decent amount of time in the pocket, the offense will flourish.

I wouldn’t worry about Matt Ryan.

Mr. Sorry

December 28th, 2009
9:59 am

I would just like to see some consistency from game to game with this kid before I anoint him the Falcons’ savior. One game he’s throwing on the money, the next game he’s throwing errant throws. One game he’s poised, the next he’s dancing in the pocket and can’t wait to run and throw the ball away. One game he’s throwing interceptions like crazy–oh wait, that’s been most of the season. I hope he works on looking off his receivers, getting the timing down with receivers on deep balls (consistently), and truly going through his progressions to the open guy. I know he hasn’t went through his progressions this season because he locks on to one guy from the time the ball is hiked until he throws it to him. That’s the main reason he has all the interceptions this year. Stop staring down everyone you’re going to. Tampa will bait him if he doesn’t stop staring every receiver down. Maybe he needs to spend more time on the little things on the field instead of all the extra in the film room. Just my observations. I’m sure some of you will try and label me a hater. He’s young and has plenty of room to grow still. I heard a QB’s third year in the league is where they make the most improvement. Let’s keep our fingers crossed.

Oh, come on!

December 28th, 2009
10:09 am

The guy’s hurt and you’re crapping on him? Give me a break, Bradley.

Brock

December 28th, 2009
10:12 am

my apologies for getting in the stripes discussion late but how can you miss the one when his girlfriend leaves at the first of the movie…”you can’t leave now, all the plants will die.” Great movie!

Mr Charlie

December 28th, 2009
10:18 am

Sorry, your issues are valid. I think the biggest thing I have seen in him is his ability make the throws when the game in on the line. In two years, he has made some really clutch throws.

However, look at the the young QBs, Flacco, Sanchez, Stafford, they are all inconsistent.

The fact is, he has taken a 4-12 team that was completely destroyed and is 20-12 in his first two years. He also has a chance to go end the curse, that will put him down as the most consistent falcon QB in the history of the franchise. That alone sould give you hope.

thebighairybeast

December 28th, 2009
10:33 am

Lets see . . . second year in the league, battling some injuries, one of the hardest schedules in the league, a defense that has been rebuilding all season, he hasnt done all that bad.

Franchise quaterbacks grow over time. They dont just appear in year two. All you have to do is go back and look at the first couple seasons of P. Manning, Aikman, even Elway.

Ryan is good. And in a few more years we will be calling him great.

Ricky

December 28th, 2009
10:48 am

Supes

December 27th, 2009
6:29 pm

Got to agree with your comment Supes, comparing QB’s you also have to look at the team that has been built around them, Ryan….better O line last year, better results last year. I read the comparisons to the Hall of Famers and have no doubt they would have similar numbers given equal levels of team talent. Just for grins here is the box score for Pennington vs Ryan in game 1 this year:
CP/AT YDS TD INT
Pennington 21/29 176 1 1
Ryan 22/36 229 2 0

I was listening to Wes Durham and Jeff Van Note after the game and you would have thought we had already beaten TB to end the streak of non winning back to back seasons. Note, I did not say, break the curse, there is no curse, just nearly 40 years of poor ownership. I am seriously concerned that with us coming off an easy victory and TB coming off an inspiring victory that we could be in for a tough trip to Tampa.

WW

December 28th, 2009
10:48 am

Mark, I hope you don’t buy into election officials’ promises. We do not have a QB problem. You should expect him to improve over the next five years or so, unless he gets broken or too banged up. This is the norm. Your QB needs to be a top 10 QB to win the Superbowl, but he does not have to be a top five QB. You should know this.

Outkast

December 28th, 2009
10:52 am

Great post Tmoney! This guy is in his second season, before he is done he will be a great QB! With atleast 2 super bowl rings!

Ricky

December 28th, 2009
10:52 am

suwaneedawg

December 28th, 2009
8:11 am

Surely you meant to say a good offensive line comes in handy every now and then.

FalconOne

December 28th, 2009
10:53 am

CR, I believe that “Big Ben” and Marino had MUCH better teams than what was handed to Matt Rayn, wouldn’t you agree. The defense of the Ravens may have something to do with the 11-5 record of Flacco as well.

Outkast

December 28th, 2009
10:53 am

WW your top ten QB to win a superbowl sounds about right. Can anyone say Trent Dilfer????

Ricky

December 28th, 2009
10:58 am

I am still amused by that “gushing” comment Mark. I’m more familiar with that word associated with orgasms and Obama supporters than quarterbacks.

Gush on Ryan supporters……………!!

SPAM EATER

December 28th, 2009
11:06 am

There is not a thing wrong with SPAM, it’s kind of like a young quarterback, you have to build around it properly. Serve hot.

ERIC Amous

December 28th, 2009
11:07 am

At least the Aints lost. Two game lossing streak going into the playoffs. TYPICAL!! I hope they get Minnesota in the first second round because the Aints can’t stop the run. They will get executed on national tv.

Mr Charlie

December 28th, 2009
11:10 am

Ok, so Ryan had the 4th best rookie year in the history of the NFL. I will accept that.

Big Dog

December 28th, 2009
11:11 am

Ryan is not a follower. He’s a leader setting his own standards.
He doesn’t need to be like anybody else.

Mr Charlie

December 28th, 2009
11:12 am

The Aints are the Aints, one of the few franchises that are sorrier than the Falcons. They peaked too early. One and done….New England will win the Superbowl.

Mr Charlie

December 28th, 2009
11:13 am

I am glad the Bucs beat New Orleans, hopefully they will celebrate all week, and roll over this weekend.

Ricky

December 28th, 2009
11:27 am

Mr Charlie said it exactly right, N’awlins has peaked just a wee bit early. I think it will be Minnesota vs San Diego for the Lombardi Trophy.

Jerry

December 28th, 2009
11:28 am

Ryan hasn’t had a good season. It’s been average at best. You don’t have a good season when you expected to make the playoffs and you don’t.

Ricky

December 28th, 2009
11:34 am

Jerry, you mean YOU expected to make the playoffs. Anyone with any football acumen knew the Falcons did not have the “D” this year.

Mr Charlie

December 28th, 2009
11:35 am

Jerry,

I believe Ryan would agree with you, however, the key phrase was “expected to make the playoffs”. He set those expectations, and considering the mess he inherited, that is a heck of an accomplishment…..If Payton does not win the superbowl, I am sure he will consider his season average too.

Mr Charlie

December 28th, 2009
11:36 am

I called the New Orleans collapse when they almost lost to the Skins.

Gamer

December 28th, 2009
11:38 am

Yesterday, Ryan passes posessed some zippity…Still he need to work on arm strenght during off-season!!!

Because if that’s all the zip that he can muster on his passes than I’m afraid to say it, but next season he’s DOOMED!!!

If he can become consistent with putting heat on his passes when necessary than he will be among the best ranked quarterbacks in NFL’s history!!!

GO FALCONS,,,BACK TO BACK WINNING SEASON!!!!!

Ricky

December 28th, 2009
11:42 am

Gamer, I have seen Ryan put some passes on a string. At least he understands a “touch pass”, which is something some other Falcons quarterbacks have never understood………

Falcon Fans? Where?

December 28th, 2009
11:51 am

There were so many empty red seats in the stands yesterday. LMAO

ThunderboltPatterson

December 28th, 2009
11:55 am

The NFL over the last 10 years has had more parity than Ive ever seen. The two unbeaten, undefeated teams took their losses recently (Saints lost to Cowboys) and (Colts lost to Jets sunday) which shows that on any given sunday, anybody could beat anybody. That is only in the nfl. In other leagues its not the case. The Falcons have Tampa on the schedule next week and tampa just got finished clobbering the Saints. So much for Tampa being an easy game for the Falcons. The Falcons will have to play their best game of the season to break the horrid 43-year old curse of back to back failures. Go Falcons.

Mr Charlie

December 28th, 2009
11:56 am

Ryan was the #3 pick, before he was drafted, the Falcons worked him out extensively. I am sure if he did not display at least average arm strength, they would never have drafted him.

TB

December 28th, 2009
11:56 am

“What if Ryan isn’t Peyton Manning?” Hey, it is only year 2. Ryan did great for his second year. As I recall, Peyton had a string of average years for the Colts when he first came in, prompting Jim Mora’s famous “PLAYOFFS?? YOU KIDDING ME, PLAYOFFS?? I JUST HOPE TO WIN ANOTHER GAME” That wasn’t Peyton’s rookie year. Then, Mora was fired, Dungy was hired, and Peyton went on the be legendary. This is only year 2, give Ryan time. Drew Brees was run out of San Diego after a few years too, remember. I think he is doing pretty well.

Mr Charlie

December 28th, 2009
11:56 am

Falcons Fans, yea, the Dome reminded me of the end of 2005 and 2006 seasons.

Chris

December 28th, 2009
11:57 am

Eli has a super bowl ring right?

i’m cool with that…

Navigator

December 28th, 2009
11:58 am

Here we go again, with the QB the reason the record is 8-7. Excuse me the difference between last year and this year is the defense or the lack of. The reason Ryan is not throwing interceptions now is because the coordinator/HC told him to throw the ball away. That will kill the statistics, but win games.

What!!

December 28th, 2009
12:21 pm

Something I saw from Flacco sunday was he can not lead his team in the clutch to victory. If we had him as a Falcon we would have lost the games to the jets. Face it Matt haters he’s better than Flacco.

Birdbrain

December 28th, 2009
12:22 pm

I’ve been a Falcon fan since I was old enough to focus my eyes on a TV. It hasn’t always been easy. Give Matty a break. A tougher schedule this year and a whole seasons worth of film on him for other teams to study make year 2 alot tougher. He’s done well. He’s the best QB we’ve had since Bartkowski. I think the future looks bright. He’s not Peyton. He’s Matt Ryan. He’s gonna do great things.

Ricky

December 28th, 2009
12:22 pm

Ryan’s pretty smart, I doubt anyone had to tell him to throw the ball away. Sometimes seemed like he was doing it too much.

ryan2atl

December 28th, 2009
12:37 pm

Now everybody’s a professional judge of QB talent. Take a look at the stats of M. Stafford and M. Sanchez, the current “annointed ones”. Maybe J. Russell, B. Quinn and M.Cassell too—weren’t they all going to be the next great QB? Why no patience with Ryan. If the team wins next week, he and the team will have accomplished something NEVER DONE BEFORE IN 44 YEARS. Would you have taken that on draft day? With this team’s history, yeah I think you would. Good things are coming, enjoy the ride.

Long Haul

December 28th, 2009
1:24 pm

I think Ryan is a good QB. What bothers me is that there are alot of balls thrown away when he has had receivers wide open. The TV announcers always say how smart he is to throw it away, when a really great QB would see those open receivers.

Falcon Fan

December 28th, 2009
1:40 pm

Matt Ryan has a better cumulative qb rating through his first two years than both Peyton Manning and Joe Montana. He is also on track to throw fewer interceptions than Peyton Manning in his second year. Stop comparing him to the current Peyton Manning and do a little more research. I don’t have a problem with what you are saying fundamentally, which is that Matt’s second year has not been as good as his first, but when people throw out the words “panic button”, which I believe you have, that is a little extreme for a very solid NFL quarterback…..WHO IS ONLY IN HIS SECOND YEAR!!! The position is extremely hard, takes a ton of work and experience, and I think you have forgotten that.

Kane337

December 28th, 2009
1:59 pm

I don’t think Ryan is an Eli. Eli makes a lot of decisions that leave you scratching your head. Maybe more of a Rich Gannon or Trent Green. Both were smart guys with not the strongest of arms. Rich got the Raiders to a Super Bowl and Trent had one of the most prolific offenses at his time in KC with Dick Vermeil and Tony Gonzales. They just never had a defense worth a flip.

Barry

December 28th, 2009
2:38 pm

Hey Y’all:

“JUST WIN, BABY!! ” “JUST WIN!!!” That is exactly what are Falcons are doing. They are “just winning, baby”‘. We all know that “INJURIES” have limited our Falcons from making the playoffs. The games that our Falcons have won they have earned. The same will be Sunday when they play Tampa. They will play with”ONE HEARTBEAT!!” and earn that victory. They are winners and they will have a winning season. They will play the way they have played the entire season which is FAST, NASTY, RESILIENT, INNOVATIVE, AGGRESSIVE, POWER HITTING, CRUNCH TIME, FOOTBALL. Our FALCONS wil be “BRINGING THE WOOD” to Tampa Bay and “WE WILL BE TAKING THEM TO THE SHED.” That’s right!!! We are going to kick that butt in “ONE HEARTBEAT!!” I can hear the heart “THUMPING” now!!” It is getting louder: THUMP!! THUMP!!! IT IS JUST TOO LOUD: THUMP!! THUMP!!!! THUMP!!!!!!!………………Now, lets “BEAT” on that Tampa Bay head in “ONE HEARTBEAT!!”. TOGETHER. IN SYNC. AS A TEAM. AS A COMMUNITY. Tampa, YOU ARE GOING DOWN IN “ONE HEARTBEAT!!!!”

GO FALCONS!!! LET’S KICK THAT TAMPA BUTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “JUST WIN, BABY!!’ JUST WIN IN
“ONE HEARTBEAT!!!!!!!

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a SECRET from a FALCON FAN. TELL EVERYBODY!!!!!!

…………………………”ONE HEARTBEAT, BABY!!!”…………….

NFL Fan

December 28th, 2009
2:56 pm

Once again the AJC writers prove what idiots they are! From politics to sports, none seem to know what they are talking about.
Here’s the deal Bradley, Ryan is in year 2…that’s right year 2!!! Compare stats to the great QB’s of all time, and I think you will find similar situations. What a complete mess of an article!

grego

December 28th, 2009
2:56 pm

You’re right…he’s no Payton or Eli or Brady or Brees or Marino or Elway or Rivers…he’s better!
Compare him to anyone in their first 2 seasons as a pro (not a starter) most except Payton, didn’t even take a snap in the first year or two….if I had to compare him to anyone it would be Montana…always a threat at the end of the game…Go Falcons!

DeloreanTimeMachine

December 28th, 2009
3:24 pm

Why do people put Eli down? He plays in NY, has a SB MVP Trophy somewhere in his house, and is probably the most criticized QB I have seen in all my years watching football. He also has a 90+ passer rating this year. No he’s not his brother but he is a terrific quarterback too. If Matty Ice is Eli, I will gladly take that. QB’s like Peyton come around once every twenty years if that.

YueleBrenner

December 28th, 2009
4:37 pm

Ryan is a GREAT qb. We won yesterday without any problems. We had a great running game with Norwood and Snelling and the wide receivers who caught balls that were thrown to them. If Ryan has a bad game its usually because the receiver drops balls that are thrown to them and other players STINK up the joint. If the team collectively plays well the Falcons usually end up with a “W”. Next week against Tampa the Falcons need to play exactly the same way they did yesterday. 9-7 still wont ease the pain of a team that SHOULD have made the playoffs. If Elam had made the kicks that he missed the Falcons would have finished AT LEAST 11-5 and made the playoffs. YOU CAN’T BLAME THE FALCONS MISSING THE PLAYOFFS ON MATTY “ICE” RYAN. The only culpret I know for the Falcons failing to make the playoffs is Jason Elam. Elam no longer is here so maybe next season we will get into the playoffs.

da roosta

December 28th, 2009
4:52 pm

Mark,
Are you Matt “Choke” Ryan? The two or one of you is always trying to stir things up. Be thankful! At least we are competing every week. As a season ticket holder for over 30 years, I still remember when the ball would be on one side of the field, my sister and I would run from one side of the stadium to the other to watch the game because no one was there to see it. Atlanta wasn’t recognized by anyone. At least now, we have hope and have raised the level of expectation for years to come. You can thank the drafting of Matt Ryan for being a big part of that. Like it or not, his level of play as a rookie put the Falcons as a possible contender for years to come. This year, the TEAM has had setbacks. GIVE IT TIME! See you on your next blog “Choke”.

Rocky Mountian Falcon

December 28th, 2009
5:03 pm

You say Ryan has not had the year he had last season, well neither did Turner!. It takes both of them healthy and working with each other and a healthy O-Line to equal success. This is a team sport, and when one part of the offense does not work, then the rest will have trouble keeping up their responsibilities.
The Defense has had a very bad season as well, with injuries that has hurt a very young defense. You cant blame just Ryan, or Turner or the defense that matter, You win as a team or you lose as a team.
Everyone on the team needs to get better or get replaced.

Rocky Mountian Falcon

December 28th, 2009
5:21 pm

After reading my last post, let me add so no one confuses me with Mattie “Choke” or any other MV77 idoits.

What I was trying to say is, This is a team sport and everyone on the team is to share in the success or failures of the season.
I expect the Falcons to win next weekend and end the back to back winning seasons jinx.
Next year I expect 10 or 11 wins and a play off run. Year 4, I think we will be Superbowl contenders.

Brian

December 28th, 2009
7:53 pm

“the greatest rookie quarterback in league history — and that’s what he was”. I’m not someone who typically posts anything but that has to be the DUMBEST statement I’ve ever read on this website. MB…you just lost ALOT of credibility! Dan Marino? Greg Cook? Even Big Ben went 14-1 and went to the AFC Championship game his rookie year…and I’m a Browns fan!

wes

December 28th, 2009
8:17 pm

you know why were not in the playoffs! jason elam he screwed up at least 3 or 4 games for us. we dont really deserve to be in the playoffs we probably lose the first game but the experience would be nice. maybe next yr everybody can stay healthy.

GTinAlpharetta

December 28th, 2009
8:57 pm

I have this comment regarding FalconFan5114’s comments at the beginning of this blog referring to Matt Ryan as the best QB that Atlanta has ever had – I agree Matt is good, but he has a ways to go before I agree that he is better than Steve Bartkowski – Us old timers remember Bart and what a great talent he was.

The Dogfighter Returns

December 28th, 2009
9:01 pm

“the greatest rookie quarterback in league history — and that’s what he was”. I’m not someone who typically posts anything but that has to be the DUMBEST statement I’ve ever read on this website. MB…you just lost ALOT of credibility! Dan Marino? Greg Cook? Even Big Ben went 14-1 and went to the AFC Championship game his rookie year…and I’m a Browns fan!
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this is ga, we believe anything uttered by a ” journalist” especially a “sports journalist.”

The Dogfighter Returns

December 28th, 2009
9:06 pm

Why do people put Eli down? He plays in NY, has a SB MVP Trophy somewhere in his house, and is probably the most criticized QB I have seen in all my years watching football. He also has a 90+ passer rating this year. No he’s not his brother but he is a terrific quarterback too. If Matty Ice is Eli, I will gladly take that. QB’s like Peyton come around once every twenty years if that.
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he is garbage without “PLEXICO, PLAXICO.” Eli statistically before the beginning of this season had stats that were not that much better than MV7. For a drop back QB that is pathetic.

Dandy Don

December 28th, 2009
10:32 pm

Let’s get picky where picky is due…the offensive line. A quarterback can’t perform
if the line doesn’t protect him.

Cheese Gritz Blitz

December 28th, 2009
10:52 pm

Ryan is 13 and 1 at home. What was Vicks record after 14 games in the dome?

Lilburn DAWG

December 28th, 2009
11:21 pm

Ryan is a good quarterback, but he’s no Peyton or Eli – yet. He has to win his divison, win in the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. The Mannings have proved their worth. Ryan has a long way to go. But considering the Falcons history, it will be a milestone if they can put together back-to-back winning seasons, something they have never done. I believe we have the right coaching staff in place; not sure about the owner. Merchandising Genius Blank focuses on his return on investment – he’s a numbers guy. Watching him stalk the sidelines as if he knows the difference between a post pattern and a screen pass is laughable. He looks like the overachieving academic geek who has enough money to buy his way into a sport he was never goos enough to play. At least that idiot Jerry Jones played ball and knows something about the game. If Blank runs the team like the Smiths, where making the playoffs and winning a Super Bowl was a mere fantasy, then we’ll soon see the birds fall to the bottom of their division. However, Ryan brings us hope.

Norb Hecker

December 28th, 2009
11:38 pm

Matty Ice is the best Falcon QB since Bart. Back to back winners would be nice, but. We need to shore up the defense and O-line, but we have a running game, a good QB and excellent coaching from Smith down, and we’re on the right track to get back to the Super Bowl. And that is the only thing that matters.

Wayne White

December 28th, 2009
11:39 pm

Mark, are you really gay or was your wife just kidding?

GM a bust and ryan still a punk

December 29th, 2009
12:32 am

before you clowns begin to crow wait till next week . look as if the buc re set to nail ya!!!

GM a bust and ryan still a punk

December 29th, 2009
12:34 am

matt is a punk under pressure only mid grade QB just the facts not on hope look at his numbers!!!

bigeasy830

December 29th, 2009
8:31 am

Until Matt Ryan can win a play-off game he is just as insignificant as the pathetic Falcons. Who cares about Matt Ryan or the Falcons, it is obvious their fans don’t even care, did you see all the mpty seats in the Dome. last time the dome was filled with fans they were screaming to see another teams QB. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Matt Ryan is a weak armes joke.

“Back To Life, Back To Reality”

ChippersLoveChild

December 29th, 2009
9:14 am

Still better than Glenn Dorsey.

the don

December 29th, 2009
9:49 am

It’s clear the Julio Iglesias Index was not factored into this judgement.

Ryan will be fine; I see the Falcons flying high again in 2010.

DJ

December 29th, 2009
10:24 am

Matt saw a new level of defense and took a few games to adjust. The adjustments began working against the Redskins (2 big audible runs against a fake 8 in the box) but lost momentum without Turner.

The Saints are fading without their personal ref crew (sorry but Grimes picked Drew Brees clean). I will enjoy the jammmed packed, silent, Superdome when a real ref crew leaves the Saints and the crowd puzzled as to how to score without getting interference calls when they need them. The “Chuck and Duck” offense is one and done then back to the scrap heap in 2010.

ELVISINTHEHOUSE.

December 29th, 2009
11:33 am

Why does vick name always come up in a conversation that ryan being mentioned? Why people always try to compare the two? if vick goes to another team and win a superbowl before ryan(not saying ryan will ever win one)will that make vick haters hate him even more? peyton manning 11+ seasons and 1 superbowl,eli 4+ seasons and 1 superbowl.So i don’t understand why people think ryan will win one sooner than later.Ryan is not eli and definately not peyton.Thats like trying to compare micheal jordan to tree rollins.

MV#777

December 29th, 2009
12:04 pm

IT FIRST BECAME obvious, this feeling between Michael Vick and his new teammates, a couple of weeks ago in Atlanta. It was his homecoming game, as it were. It was where he scored his first touchdown for the Eagles and his teammates bounded off of the bench in celebration, where cornerback Sheldon Brown said that he and some of the players were telling each other before the game that they wanted to win it for Vick.

I mean, win one for Mike? Really? We all observe from a distance, and it was so hard to see or to understand. But it was real. There is no doubt that it was real, this bond between Vick and his new teammates.

And, now, this:

The Eagles’ players have unanimously voted Vick as the team’s recipient of the Ed Block Courage Award, given annually to the player on each NFL team who exemplifies “commitment to the principles of sportsmanship and courage.”

Guilty of horrific crimes. Sentenced to a federal prison term. Forfeited millions and millions of dollars. Back in the league for only a few months, only through the good graces of NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and Eagles coach Andy Reid. Now, a convicted felon honored by his teammates for overcoming a terrible situation into which he had put himself.

“I’m not sure you can explain it unless you’ve gone through it here with him,” Reid said yesterday. “Everybody is going to have their opinion on it, I’m sure. Until you’ve been with him for the hours that his teammates have been with him and seen him through all these different things that he’s had to go through, that time-tested part of it, you can’t appreciate it quite as much.

“I don’t expect everybody to understand it, no, but I think it’s a tribute when it’s a slam dunk by his teammates voting him that. It was just a unanimous vote there.”

That this is just a gut punch to the people who have opposed Vick’s reinstatement goes without saying. For them, a PETA spokesman said:

“The Philadelphia Eagles fumbled when they gave Michael Vick the Ed Block Courage Award, which was named after a man who advocated in behalf of abused children. Michael Vick should not be the person anyone points to as a model of sportsmanship, even though he has now exchanged dogs for touchdowns after serving time for extreme cruelty to animals. We wish him well in educating others, but this is not appropriate and does not mark a joyous moment in NFL history.”

It is hard to disagree with any of that. It does seem too soon to be celebrating Vick. It does not feel right – and this comes from somebody who thought Vick deserved a chance to play this year, somebody who was looking forward to seeing what he could do on the field.

But here is the thing: I did not get a vote and you did not get a vote. This is a players’ award, voted upon by players. And whatever your personal feelings, it is impossible not to be fascinated by this team’s embrace of Vick, right from the start.

“I never worried that guys wouldn’t accept me,” Vick said. “That probably was one of the last things on my mind. The most important thing was to get in here and get to know the guys and get acclimated in the city and playing football again. You just let things happen naturally. You just be yourself.”

This is more than just teammates supporting a teammate. It is clear that they like the guy. Talking to them through the season, it is clear that they thought the punishment for the crime was so severe, prison-wise and especially financially, only because Vick was a celebrity. Their inclination as fellow celebrities was to root for him, and as fellow teammates to root for his ability to help them on the field. But the feelings still ended up going deeper, and this award demonstrates it.

“It means a great deal,” Vick said. “I’ve only been in this locker room for 3 1/2 months. For those guys to feel that way about me, it means a lot to me. The bond that I have with the players on this team and the way we’ve jelled has been outstanding.”

Someone asked Vick what kind of courage he demonstrated, per the award.

“I’ve had to overcome a lot, more than probably one single individual can bear,” he said. “Take a look at what I’ve been through. You ask certain people to walk in my shoes, they probably couldn’t do it – probably 95 percent of the people in this world. Because nobody had to endure what I’ve been through, situations I’ve been put in, situations I’ve placed myself in, decisions that I’ve made, whether they were good or bad. There are always consequences behind certain things and there are repercussions behind them, too. Then you have to wake up every day and face the world, whether they perceive you in the right perspective or it’s a totally different outlook on you.

“You just have to be strong and believe in yourself and be optimistic. That’s what I’ve been able to do and that’s what I display.”

When you talk to Vick, it sometimes takes him a minute to get to the key point: situations I’ve placed myself in. That is what rankles for some, still, that minute it sometimes takes. But it is all part of a longer process.

Anyway, Vick said, “The thing I told Roger [Goodell] was that, 4 or 5 years from now, when I come to him, I’ll be able to say everything I told you I was going to do, I’m still doing it. That’s what I pride myself on. That’s my focus and that’s my goal.”

That might have seemed a more appropriate time for an award such as this one, not now. Then again, this is all about a bond within a locker room, a place that none of us can hope to understand from the outside.

MV#777

December 29th, 2009
12:07 pm

MICHAEL VICK HAS PRIDE!!!!! AND YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!!!MATT RYAN WILL NEVER BE A SUPER STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL………………

MV#777

December 29th, 2009
12:15 pm

Wednesday, December 23, 2009
Vick wins Ed Block Courage Award
Michael Vick has won an award.

The Eagles announced this morning that Vick’s teammates have voted him as this year’s recipient of the Ed Block Courage Award, which is given annually to a player who exemplifies commitment to the principles of sportsmanship and courage.

“I’ve had to overcome a lot, more than probably one single individual can bear,” Vick said. “Take a look at what I’ve been through. You ask certain people to walk in my shoes, they probably couldn’t do it — probably 95 percent of the people in this world. Because nobody had to endure what I’ve been through — situations I’ve been put in, situations I’ve placed myself in, decisions that I’ve made — whether they were good or bad. There are always consequences behind certain things and there are repercussions behind them, too. Then you have to wake up every day and face the world, whether they perceive you in the right perspective or it’s a totally different outlook on you.”

Eagles coach Andy Reid said the vote was a unanimous one. Actually, it wasn’t. Vick said he had a vote and that he didn’t cast his for himself.

“I won’t say who I voted for,” Vick said.

Reid was asked if he was worried about how the award would be interpreted in light of Vick’s past. In case you just awoke from a 3-year coma, Vick served 18 months in a federal prison for his role in running a dogfighting ring, was released in the summer and signed not long after by the Eagles amid a storm of controversy.

“I’m not sure you can explain it, unless you’ve kind of gone through it here with him,” Reid said. “Everybody is going to have their opinion on it I’m sure. Until you’ve been with him for the hours that his teammates have been with him and seen him through all these different things that he’s had to go through, that time-tested part of it, you can’t appreciate it.

“I don’t expect everybody to understand it. I think it’s a tribute when it’s a slam dunk by his teammates voting him that. It was an unanimous vote. It’s not something that we as coaches … or anybody else promotes. We don’t sit there and promote a player to win the award. It’s picked by the players and only by the players.”

Brandon Ladson

December 29th, 2009
3:33 pm

Fools all of stop trying to predict the future. You live in the present tell me what you see right now. I see a qb who gets a pass over 30 yards once every 7 games. I see a league realizing all of his weknesses and they are glaring. The playbook is limited b/c he does not have elite qb physical tools. He is a better Chad Pennington which means he is servicable but if an upgrade is available get the upgrade. Remember how quickly Pennington was moved out of New York for a 39 year old Favre. Build a team like a lot of people are suggesting then go get you a top flight qb as opposed to average.

Brett Sorge

December 29th, 2009
5:33 pm

Wait a second. Last year you had turner running all over the place and passing was just not that important. Now with no turner the other teams are playing the pass with likely results for Ryan. What else can you expect???

hiramsaint

December 29th, 2009
5:58 pm

ryan like eli???????????????????????? you guys are truly in fantasy land. thers no comparison! eli has a superbowl ring and ryan has sensitive skin. what a joke the ajc has become to even try to pass some garbage like this

James

December 29th, 2009
7:38 pm

oh Markie, Mark, Ryan has gotten hurt, many of the starters on the Falcons roster have gotten hurt, and they still managed a winning season. Last year they had a great year and made the playoffs. I do not know why sports writers turn on players so quick.

good tools poor QB play

December 29th, 2009
8:04 pm

look at all the team Ryan won . All are loser. look at who he has for tools and he has a 81 % passer. look at his number only middle of the pack if that. Team know he has no heart. pure punk under pressure. melt like cheese when heat is applied. he has some of the best recivers in the nfl and he is only below the pack of QBin the nfl just the facts on the hope!!
Blow him up all you want to it is what it is just look at the numbers!!! 3th pick 45 million for a half azz QB!( not even half)! San Baker is a bust too!! pure punk!

Real American

December 29th, 2009
9:31 pm

Tony Gonzales made the probowl EVERY YEAR for the last 10 years…until this season…so if Ryan is supposedly responsible for Roddy making the ProBowl last season, I guess he’s responsible for ending Gonzales’s streak too right?

C from Marietta

December 29th, 2009
10:18 pm

Matt Ryan will be fine. Folks just love to put the horse before the cart huh? He is still very young, but he has an excellent work ethic.
Give him a year or two before, we decide to see where he ranks. Falcons fans should be use to being patient ;-) .

Ricky

December 30th, 2009
8:30 am

James, don’t assume anything about that winning season. A loss to TB this Sunbday puts us at .500, nearly good enough for a playoff spot in the AFC but not good enough to achieve the goal of back-to-back winning seasons.

Seems like everyone thinks TB is just gonna lay down.

ChrisChase

December 30th, 2009
8:37 am

According to Philadelphia Eagles players, the most courageous man on the team in 2009 was one who started the year serving time in prison for an act of extreme cowardice.

The Eagles announced that Michael Vick was the 2009 winner of the Ed Block Courage Award, an honor given to a player who shows courage in the face of adversity. Vick’s teammates voted for the award, thus demonstrating how tone-deaf and out-of-touch NFL players are with reality.
According to the Ed Block Courage Award Foundation Web site:

Each year, the Ed Block Courage Awards honors those National Football League players who exemplify commitments to the principles of sportsmanship and courage. Recipients are selected by their teammates for team effort, as well as individual performance. The Ed Block Courage Award recipient symbolizes professionalism, great strength and dedication. He is also a community role model.

One recipient is selected from each NFL team, usually for things like coming back from injury, doing good work in the community or long, dedicated service to a franchise. I’d be surprised if the award’s founders intended for the honor to be given to someone doing community service as part of the terms of his parole or for showing courage in the face of reporters asking legitimate questions about federal crimes.

The Eagles’ vote is not only a slap in the face to the Ed Block Courage Award Foundation, but to the other 31 players who won the award for their respective teams. Some men are truly deserving of the honor, like Ravens safety Dawan Landry(notes) who was nearly paralyzed last year, but has come back in ‘09 with four interceptions and a touchdown or Mike Furrey(notes) of the Browns, who does extensive volunteer work in his community. Adding Vick’s name to the roll makes the award seem illegitimate and meaningless.

Apparently Philadelphia players confuse Vick handling dogfighting questions and booing with a measure of class as some sort of courage. That Vick only got a chance to show this mild courageousness because of the extreme cowardice it takes to murder helpless animals isn’t something that crosses their mind. They confuse Vick’s desperation with some sort of integrity.
I’m all for second chances and find myself rooting for Vick to redeem himself both on and off the football field. He’s served an appropriate sentence (and then some) and I see no reason for him to keep paying for his past transgressions. But I also see no reason to celebrate his character.

Michael Vick is very much a work in progress. A few years from now, I hope he will be deserving of such an honor. At this time, however, he has only just started down the path to redemption.

MV#777

December 30th, 2009
12:00 pm

CHRIS CHASE!! YOU AND MATT RYAN SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK………

MV#777

December 30th, 2009
12:07 pm

2009 Ed Block Courage Award Winners
There’s been a lot of consternation about the Philadelphia Eagles players voting Michael Vick their 2009 Ed Block Courage Award winner, so below is a look at each team’s winners, as voted on by the players.

Arizona Cardinals – DE, Kenny Iwebema
Atlanta Falcons – LB, Coy Wire
Baltimore Ravens – S, Dawan Landry
Buffalo Bills – WR, James Hardy
Carolina Panthers – LB, Dan Connor
Cincinnati Bengals – G, Bobbie Williams
Cleveland Browns – S/WR, Mike Furrey
Dallas Cowboys – G, Kyle Kosier
Denver Broncos – S, Brian Dawkins
Detroit Lions – T, Jeff Backus
Green Bay Packers – S, Nick Collins
Houston Texans – LB, Zac Diles
Indianapolis Colts – CB, Marlin Jackson
Jacksonville Jaguars – T, Richard Collier
Kansas City Chiefs – QB, Brodie Croyle
Miami Dolphins – G, Justin Smiley
Minnesota Vikings – LB, E.J. Henderson
New England Patriots – Hasn’t been announced
New Orleans Saints – DE, Anthony Hargrove
New York Giants – NT, Fred Robbins
New York Jets – LB, David Harris
Oakland Raiders – S, Tyvon Branch
Philadelphia Eagles – QB, Michael Vick
Pittsburgh Steelers – DE, Aaron Smith
St. Louis Rams – DE, James Hall
San Diego Chargers – LB, Shawne Merriman
San Francisco 49ers – CB, Shawntae Spencer
Seattle Seahawks – WR, Nate Burleson
Tampa Bay Buccaneers – RB, Cadillac Williams
Tennessee Titans – C, Kevin Mawae
Washington Redskins – DE, Phillip Daniels

“Even the CHOKE’s teammates” don’t respect him

Susan

December 30th, 2009
12:24 pm

Kris G

December 30th, 2009
7:34 pm

I would like to make a plea to anyone who cares enough about the Atlanta Falcons to listen. There will always be those here who want to steer the conversation to Vick vs. Ryan. I own both jerseys. For those out there who are Ryan fans or Falcon fans, there is still much to be talked about. I for one am very interested in our CURRENT quarterback’s development. Two years in, there’s plenty of reason to believe he’s the future, and plenty of reason for doubt. There is so much ripe debate to be had, and comparisons to similar QBs to be made. This is something that I think is much more pertinent than racial issues or comparing two QB whose styles could not possibly be more different. Vick does belong in the discussion as long as we’re talking about the past He does have one of the best win-loss ratios of any QB we’ve had… and all three coaches we had… Reeves, Mora, and Wade Phillips all have winning records with him as the starter. He deserves SOME credit for that… but really, I’m much more interested in figuring out our present QB situation. Is he the real deal, or is he, like some have said, Chad Pennington?

hype on Matt and GM

December 30th, 2009
10:36 pm

any pro bowler’s for this year Falcon? and this GM is a genius a? Matt passer rating 81.1 great QB? Bull sh-t to all! night mare no hope!! All the super picks what a joke!!! Matt a punk at heart first qt. to the 4Th. !!! when pressure is applied he melt like cheese all 100% scared. he read defensive so goo he has 12 pick all hype!!!! just look at his numbers of the 32 QB’s !!! POOR at best!!

mars

December 31st, 2009
5:37 pm

3th?!?? San Baker??!?? He melt like cheese??!??! *Moron Aert!* *Moron Alert!*

mars

December 31st, 2009
5:39 pm

Uh, what is a 3th???

mars

December 31st, 2009
5:40 pm

Aert! Jeez!~ From one moron to anotha, brotha!

Joe

January 3rd, 2010
8:09 am

Why try to even compare Ryan to Manning at this point? It’s going to take time. Hell, Peyton threw 23 interceptions his 4th year in the league – why don’t you mention that when making the comparison? You act as if Manning had a bad rookie year and was stellar after that.

AceDawg

January 4th, 2010
11:23 am

Ryan certainly deserves the benefit of the doubt. So does the Atlanta coaching staff. Congrats on a winning year despite some tough breaks. 2010 should be a solid one.