This Bud’s not for UGA, but it’s still a promising sign

There was a reason I didn’t include Bud Foster on my silly little list of defensive-coordinating candidates a while back: I didn’t think he’d leave Virginia Tech for Georgia. And I, for one of the few times in my silly little life, have been proved right.

I figure Bud Foster’s next job is head coach of the Hokies. Frank Beamer is 63 and can’t go on forever. (Then again, weren’t we saying as much about Joe Paterno back in the 1860’s?) I figure a man as accomplished as Foster didn’t need the glitz of the SEC to prove himself. And apparently Foster sees it the same way, seeing as how he just re-upped to stay at VPI. (We oldsters recall when the school in Blacksburg was known as the Virginia Polytechnic Institute.)

But say this for Mark Richt: If you’re going to hire a new DC, Bud Foster’s a mighty good place to start. You never know: He might say yes and your problems are solved. And even if he says no, you’ve sent up a flare that you’re serious about upgrading. It also says you’re willing to step outside your circle of influence — the Bowden/FSU circle — and hire somebody not because you knew him when but because he’s good at what he does.

Georgia isn’t without clout in this search. It can pay big money. (Maybe not Monte Kiffin money — meaning $1.5 million to work for his mouthy son — but big nonetheless.) There’s no reason a program with such resources trying to make do with a substandard coordinator, which is why Willie Martinez is out of a job. There are better coaches out there.

Bud Foster would have been a Big Get, but there are Good Gets still to be had. Kirby Smart would be one, but I don’t think he’ll leave Alabama. Ellis Johnson would be one, but I’m not sure he’ll leave South Carolina. (And Tyrone Nix, who’s a hot name, just spurned Florida to stay at Ole Miss.) But as long as Richt keeps talking to the right guys, he’ll find someone who’ll say yes soon enough.

Were I a Georgia fan, I’d be disappointed the pursuit of Foster didn’t bear fruit. But I’d be more encouraged that Richt saw fit to pursue Foster in the first place.

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GHH

December 14th, 2009
10:04 pm

Agree. UGA dominates Tech…..60-39-5.

mmgtfan

December 14th, 2009
10:07 pm

How was the vacation Mark?

bigdawg88

December 14th, 2009
10:08 pm

Say Mark, what’s the chances of getting one of the UNC coaches (Withers or Blake) here?

Pit bull

December 14th, 2009
10:10 pm

The Dawgs have to get off the money for this job. There are too many schools looking for Coaches right now. You have to have a top Def. Cord. to Coach against these high powered offenses now a days. By the way, Paul Johnson out schemed Vig. Tech did he not.

Mark Bradley

December 14th, 2009
10:10 pm

It was OK, mmgtfan. Thanks for asking.

SD Dawg

December 14th, 2009
10:11 pm

Well put Mark. Why would someone with that much comfort leave his situation to come to ours. Wise move on his part. He leveraged it for a better deal. Smart will do the same if we bark up that tree. I like that we are thinking big, but I bet we end up with a younger DC from a smaller school. Maybe even former 1AA. Hell, that is where BVG came from.

Mark Bradley

December 14th, 2009
10:13 pm

Of the two, I think I’d take a run at Everett Withers. He’s the North Carolina defensive coordinator, and he’s a comer. John Blake is the D-line coach and the recruiting coordinator. Last I checked, Georgia still has a guy who does those jobs. Name of Garner.

Top Dawg

December 14th, 2009
10:14 pm

Mark: Welcome back, Mark. It’s just not the same without you. Plus, I was tired of seeing the “VICKtimized” headline every time I pulled up the sports section. :-)

Russ4Heisman.net

December 14th, 2009
10:14 pm

Good thoughts, but this has the feel of the basketball search. Remember all the rumors and offers of the “big names” then?

I’m concerned lots of agents for “high profile” candidates are going to use UGA to get their clients more money and longer contracts-leaving Georgia holding the bag. (PS: Not a shot at you, Mark Fox!)

SD Dawg

December 14th, 2009
10:14 pm

Mark- Do us a favor, the next time you go on vacation, ask the AJC to take down the title of your last article. Seeing “Vick”temize for a week was bringing me down! :-) -SD

Pit bull

December 14th, 2009
10:16 pm

Anybody thought of looking at the list of the best Defensive team rankings to look for talent.

SD Dawg

December 14th, 2009
10:16 pm

Hey Top Dawg, that’s my post!

Mark Bradley

December 14th, 2009
10:17 pm

You guys make a good point. I should have put up an “on vacation” post so the Vick-timized thing wouldn’t have had a shelf life of eight days. But by the time I got done doing the Tampa/ACC/Falcons-Eagles double I was too tired to type another word for days. I apologize. Won’t happen again.

SD Dawg

December 14th, 2009
10:19 pm

Just post “Injury Riddled Falcons Lose Another”, then you can take the next three weeks off!

pilgrim

December 14th, 2009
10:21 pm

“Were I a Georgia fan….”
Sorry Mark Bradley: I don’t buy your neutrality after your “live from the Joke by Coke” deal. I still enjoy reading your posts, though.

Mark Bradley

December 14th, 2009
10:21 pm

I don’t know when I turned into this raging optimist, SD Dawg, but I still think the Falcons can win out and maybe even make the playoffs.

Crimedog

December 14th, 2009
10:22 pm

Was this guy cleared by the Mike Adams search agency? We don’t want to rush into anything.

Stockdog

December 14th, 2009
10:24 pm

I still think that Bumpas is the guy for Georgia. TCU defense is aggressive and solid. Second on my list is Withers from North Carolina.

I agree that trying to get Bud was a good thing to try. I think that Richt should keep trying to get the best defensive coordinator out there, and not just the best available (i.e. best without a job).

SD Dawg

December 14th, 2009
10:25 pm

If we can hang with NO with the group we trotted out there on offense then I think can win the remaining three. I don’t think that get us in the playoffs. Even in losses, I still do not think this Falcon team exhibits all of the characteristics of its forefathers. We’ll get a decent draft pick and a lot of young players will have experience. I still think this franchise is on the rise. No there you go rubbing off on me.

Gdawg84

December 14th, 2009
10:26 pm

Hiring the 2 bronze statue dudes in the picture would be an upgrade over Willie.

Mark Bradley

December 14th, 2009
10:26 pm

I’m sorry if the Joke by Coke thing offended people, but I meant it as … well, a joke. And I was tasked with chatting/writing that night about Georgia. Had I been doing Tech, I’d have probably said, “Live from PJ the Magnificent’s HQ.”

See, I’ve been getting a lot of grief about writing about Paul Johnson so often. But I’m pretty sure I wrote a few things about Mark Richt when he won his conference in his second season. (”Finish The Drill” — ever heard that one? If I’m not mistaken, I was the first guy to mention the slogan in print.)

pilgrim

December 14th, 2009
10:28 pm

No offence taken. Thanks for clearing it up.

Mark Bradley

December 14th, 2009
10:29 pm

The guys in bronze do look pretty serious, Gdawg. I’ll grant you that.

Ostrich Racer

December 14th, 2009
10:30 pm

You might want to give Damon Evans most of the credit for approaching Foster. I still say the AD will make the hire, and he’s looking for someone who will push Richt, an heir apparent.

Right On Time

December 14th, 2009
10:30 pm

Not dissapointed. Foster is not the right guy. The right guy is some potentially unknown full of pi$$ and vinegar coach that will absolutely turn this “D” on it’s ear.

Kirby is a no. Leaving a back to back SECCG team?
Johnson? Not hiring a coach from carolina.
Nix? Nope

SD…is correct. Any “name” that is spoken to will just use it for a raise.

No re-treads or wife swapping…I trust Richt to get “new” blood to get the sense of urgency back in Athens.

Tonto

December 14th, 2009
10:31 pm

Mark, If I were you, I’d write about CPJ too. The guy is wound too tight and one day he is going to blow. Please ask him about his resemblance to Jabba the Hut

RAMBLE ON!!!

December 14th, 2009
10:31 pm

Yeah, last I heard, they were going to hire Roy Williams for basketball, or something.

Alabama DOG

December 14th, 2009
10:31 pm

Hey Mark, what are the chances we lose Garner and is it a big loss?

Mark Bradley

December 14th, 2009
10:32 pm

I have to say I give Richt full credit for making the change. I wasn’t sure he could bring himself to do it, but he did. And now I see no reason why he won’t hire better coaches to replace the three he deposed.

Not Disappointed

December 14th, 2009
10:32 pm

Thanks for the input, Mark.

Ramblin Wreck!

Mark Bradley

December 14th, 2009
10:34 pm

PJ is great to write about because he says things no other coach says.

And I can’t imagine Garner leaving. He’s essentially the No. 2 man in Athens now, is he not?

Right On Time

December 14th, 2009
10:34 pm

Hey!!! Theres ol Rambles On and On…

You in Miami yet????

c-dawg

December 14th, 2009
10:35 pm

Mark – Heard any word on a timetable? A week? Weeks? Month? Thanks.

86' Dawgs

December 14th, 2009
10:37 pm

FSU has already named a new D coach. While I feel that we do not need to rush into offering this position to just anyone, other top D-1 teams are also making coaching moves that could negatively impact the selection process for the Dogs. I hope this process is moving more quickly than we are all aware of.

Kaiser Sousse

December 14th, 2009
10:38 pm

Is it true that of the 22 million missing e-mails found from the Bush administration that 19 million were from m, Saint Simons and Yellow Fuzz posting on the AJC message boards?

Tom

December 14th, 2009
10:38 pm

I think Bud Foster is an outstanding candidate to change the scope of defense at UGA. However, he’d be a fool to leave VT. Kirby isn’t leaving Alabama, I don’t know his name is still being tossed around.

Johnson or Withers.

Mark Bradley

December 14th, 2009
10:39 pm

I haven’t heard a word on a timetable. We rarely do. But I’d expect someone to be named before Christmas.

Luke

December 14th, 2009
10:39 pm

I like it. Shoot for the best. Maybe one of them will say yes.

Quo vadis?

December 14th, 2009
10:40 pm

ACC coach turning down the dawgs? LMAO! My, my how the mighty have fallen….

Dawgmess

December 14th, 2009
10:41 pm

There’s a whole lot more shuffling and negotiating going on now than we outsiders can imagine. There’s a linebackers coach up at Penn State that may be on the threshold of being a great DC. Ron Vanderlinden will eliminate those missed tackles and poor fundamentals. He’ll fix a lot of our problems quickly. I just wonder if he can recruit down here.

What??

December 14th, 2009
10:41 pm

Why do people keep mentioning bumpas? He is almost 60. Why would he leave TCU for anything but a HC job? More importantly, why would we want him to? As yoda said, “Too old, too old to begin the training.”

Driver 8

December 14th, 2009
10:42 pm

Mark; What do you make of Halliday joining the NL East?

benadawg

December 14th, 2009
10:43 pm

After watching the hapless falcon defensive backs i think BVG is not on my list, Whatever money it takes get Smart or Muschamp and be done with it…

Mark Bradley

December 14th, 2009
10:43 pm

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with getting a seasoned coordinator — Monte Kiffin seemed to do OK in K-Town — but the trend is for younger and more outwardly passionate guys. Like Muschamp.

Mark Bradley

December 14th, 2009
10:45 pm

If I’m the Phillies, I look at it as good news/bad news. You get maybe the best pitcher in baseball, but you’re losing the guy who got you to the World Series this year in Cliff Lee.

If I’m the Braves, I think, “Thank goodness we don’t have to hit against Halladay and Lee back-to-back.”

Rusty

December 14th, 2009
10:45 pm

Kirby is still an option and a hope and more importantly, a front runner. Here’s why.
1. He has already left Saban once…
2. Come home. His family and in-laws still live here.
3. Why would he leave a program that is on top to go to a program in need? More recognition. He is the lowest paid DC in the SEC. At the least, we will cause him to get a big raise. You should NEVER have to threaten to quit in order to get a raise. That applies to anyone at any job.
4. What are his ambitions coaching? Does he want to be HC at the college level or coach in the Pros? What better way to put a feather in your cap than to show that you can leave Saban’s shadow and take a program that is in desperate repair and rebuild it to a showcase defense????

I think Kirby is UGA’s next DC. Only time will tell……
Rusty

Surrellslink

December 14th, 2009
10:46 pm

Selecting Withers from UNC combined with the the fact that Stacy Surrells is a friend could bring App State’s D1 FCS Assistant Coach of the Year, Mark Speir to UGA from App State. I’m not sure if he would leave App State, but Withers as DC would possibly add a 2 for 1 aspect on the defensive side of the ball for the Dawgs.

SD Dawg

December 14th, 2009
10:47 pm

Speaking of Monte, I wonder if he has to say about his bozo son. Good thing he is getting a million plus because he may not be there long.

Driver 8

December 14th, 2009
10:47 pm

I heard Lee at first too but have since see that they traded Happ and Blanton as well as outfielder Dominic Brown, whoever that is. For those three, it is a heck of a deal.

Tom

December 14th, 2009
10:47 pm

I would love to see Kirby come back to Georgia, I just don’t think it will happen.