
The ACC motto: Nothing says college football like a pirate ship in the end zone. (Photo by M. Bradley)
Tampa — The ACC tried Jacksonville. Didn’t work. Then it tried here. Hasn’t worked. Next year it tries Charlotte. Probably won’t work.
The ACC has this problem. It wants to be seen as a big-time football conference but lives cheek-by-jowl with the big-time football conference. The SEC championship game — the granddaddy of such events, at least in the upper tier of college football — dwarfs all else. Best teams, loudest fans, nicest setting. (Atlanta, Ga., thank you very much.)
The ACC expanded to 12 teams in 2005. Its first title game — between Florida State and Virginia Tech — drew 72,749. Last year’s title game — staged here, in the stadium rigged out with the pirate ship — drew an actual crowd of 27,360. (Nearly twice that many tickets were sold.) Tonight’s game between Georgia Tech and Clemson will do better than that because these schools are much closer to Florida than were Boston College and Virginia Tech, but nobody is predicting a sellout.
Raymond James Stadium has a pirate ship — and it’s a cool pirate ship, I must say — but it also has an inherent drawback: It lacks a roof. And if you’re going to play a football game outdoors in December, even on the Gulf Coast of F-L-A, it would behoove you to control the climate. Especially if your target audience is a conference that isn’t exactly the essence of football fandom. (Basketball is another matter, but the ACC has long been really good in basketball. And most basketball games are staged indoors.)
Just for fun, I checked the weather in Charlotte as of 5 p.m. Saturday — 42 degrees with a 70 percent chance of rain. Bank of America Stadium, the next home for this wayfaring event, is likewise open-air. Ouch, babe.
It had rained for several days here, but the rain ceased this morning. Now it’s just gray and windy. (The Dunedin boat parade was canceled today because of the wind, FYI.) Temperature was 57 degrees at 5 p.m. and was expected to drop into the 40s by the time the ACC anoints its champ. Mercifully, there was only a 10 percent chance of rain.
OK, you’re saying: “This is football, dude, and football is supposed to be played outdoors come Hades or high water!” My reply: The ACC is largely a Southern-based conference. We Southerners aren’t used to sitting and shivering. And if you’re neutral wondering if you should pay money to go watch Tech and Clemson play in Tampa — heck, even if you’re a Tech or Clemson fan — you might feel more inclined to trot out the credit card if you knew you weren’t going to be miserable throughout.
And there’s the ACC’s biggest problem: The only real alternative stadium from Boston to Miami that bears a roof is the one already booked this weekend. The Georgia Dome is exactly what the league needs, but the SEC got there first. And the SEC loves the Dome. And the feeling is mutual.
Clemson coach Dabo Swinney suggested Friday that the ACC might pair its title game with the SEC championship in Atlanta, which would make great good sense. Reps from the conferences already oppose one another in both the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Classic and the bowl formerly known as the Peach, and those games do sellout business. (And Atlanta is, by dint of Tech’s location, technically an ACC city.)
But would the ACC ever want to play alongside Big Brother? Would it want its status as the JV league underscored with a side-by-side comparison? In an ideal world, no. But the first five installments of the ACC title game haven’t been ideal. The event needs a lift. The Dome would supply one. I say try it.
And with that, I’ll open the floor to comments, questions and venue suggestions. I’ll be here until Tech wins — I say the score will be 31-27 — and even if it loses. Join me, won’t you?
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tommy
December 5th, 2009
6:24 pm
4 drunks, 4 convicts, 4 coaches fired
Mark Bradley
December 5th, 2009
6:24 pm
There’s nobody in the stands yet. I think the gates open at 6:30.
Clemson wearing orange pants, it seems. Not the all-purple the Tigers sported at Bobby Dodd Statdium.
GTFAN
December 5th, 2009
6:25 pm
You might be a redneck if…Oh hell forget it. If you are an UGAY fan YOU ARE A NECK
Pi$$onaJacket
December 5th, 2009
6:25 pm
Mark, what in the world did you do wrong to have to cover tech in Tampa?
Talk about a snoozer. 30-24 still makes me smile.
brewdawg
December 5th, 2009
6:25 pm
LOL GTFan, talking about UGA fans on a Tech blog… considering every UGA blog this year contained countless Tech fans harping on that 45-42 win from last year. But hey, it’s all in good fun. That’s what makes rivalries so great/maddening.
willie martinez
December 5th, 2009
6:25 pm
Mark: kickoff? venue?
George P
December 5th, 2009
6:25 pm
Hey Mark, what’s the stadium capacity up to now? What was the tailgate presence like? Hope your ready for a good quality night game!
tommy
December 5th, 2009
6:26 pm
Last time UGA won the SEC, they didn’t go to the championship game. Why? SEC sucked then. SEC sucks now other than two teams. Paul Johnson 4-2 against SEC
Wont Jones
December 5th, 2009
6:26 pm
Carnack here…
And the answer is.. willie and reputation that GT has for being a nerd school.
And the question:
Name two things that are never going to go away.
Mark Bradley
December 5th, 2009
6:26 pm
GTmania, I like Tech. By 31-27. Just think the Jackets have been the better and more consistent side.
Meanwhile...CWM's future well preserved
December 5th, 2009
6:27 pm
One would think CWM has a future as a wildlife preservationist. After all, he’s provided a safe haven to Gators, to Tigers, to Wildcats, to Razorbacks…
willie martinez
December 5th, 2009
6:27 pm
Mark, you hear about the uga fsu trade? me for 3 bowdens. and a lot of cash.
willie martinez
December 5th, 2009
6:28 pm
meanwhile, but i stomped on a bees ass.
Mark Bradley
December 5th, 2009
6:28 pm
And to answer Coach Willie’s question from a while back: I think you’re a poet, CW. Although I don’t know how much money there is in poetry.
George P
December 5th, 2009
6:28 pm
Wow, I didn’t mean to re-post ten times, my bad. The site didn’t update at all for me. Bring on the hate UGA fans, you don’t have anything else to do until Shreveport calls
willie martinez
December 5th, 2009
6:29 pm
sec championship: 1 vs 2.
acc championship: who cares
ACC - All of'em Can't Compete League
December 5th, 2009
6:29 pm
SEC Championship is sold out…tickets on E-Bay going for over 1000 bucks….the game is a classic already….all SEC fans are watching regardless of who their favorite team is…winning the SEC means something (usually a trip to NC Game).
I bet anybody stupid enough to buy tickets to the ACC Championship in hope of scalping them is looking for a bailout about now!
willie martinez
December 5th, 2009
6:29 pm
Mark, i’m a WRITER. is there much money in that?
tommy
December 5th, 2009
6:30 pm
UGA will never play on this day as long as Meyer is at Florida
Pi$$onaJacket
December 5th, 2009
6:30 pm
The ACC is really, really down this year when tech is in a “championship” (sorry I laughed a little) game. Things should get back to normal next year when VT, Miami and FSU start winning again. It appears that everyone has figured out the gimmick offense now. It felt so good knocking the nerds out of the top 10. It looked like a mispring when they were there. 30-24!
GTFAN
December 5th, 2009
6:30 pm
Well I guess Mark could be stuck covering UGAY tonight…oh wait….nevermind.
willie martinez
December 5th, 2009
6:31 pm
my name is willie the writer
i once was a big time fighter
but now thats all gone
dont know what went wrong
my main thing is now the mitre
Wont Jones
December 5th, 2009
6:31 pm
Mark,
Do you think you know more about politics than Cynthia Tucker knows about football? You could invite her to blog some day…
Mark Bradley
December 5th, 2009
6:32 pm
There’s some kind of concert going on outside the stadium. (Country-fied, from the sound.) Tailgate presence was low-key when I got here, but I got here really early. And traffic was starting to back up even then.
ON a related note, Erin Andrews just walked onto the field. Wearing kind of a black poncho/shawl thing.
Meanwhile...CWM's future well preserved
December 5th, 2009
6:33 pm
That you did CWM. I heard the other day the Georgia band was practicing when an insect started buzzing around the band room during practice. A tuba player picked up his sheet music and swatted it.
“Bee?” a bandmate asked
“Bee flat,” he replied.
Mark Bradley
December 5th, 2009
6:34 pm
Let me put it this way: If they opened the gates at 6:30, there hasn’t been a run on seats just yet.
George P
December 5th, 2009
6:34 pm
Haha, yes! Take that Big 12! We get Erin for our game!
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GATA RUSS
December 5th, 2009
6:35 pm
What if their was a game on TV that nobody watched.
Mark Bradley
December 5th, 2009
6:35 pm
Pretty good joke, Meanwhile.
Reminds me of the one I related during the lightning delay in Tallahassee. It came by way of “The Sopranos.” Bobby the brother-in-law and Tony were driving. Bobby said, “My dad and I went hunting, but we saw a sign that said, ‘Bear left.’ So we turned around and went home.”
tommy
December 5th, 2009
6:36 pm
Pi$$onaJacket you type like a UGA honor graduate. First of all, Tech is #10. Second of all, it is spelled print, not pring. LOL
Mark Bradley
December 5th, 2009
6:36 pm
I saw Todd Blackledge in the press box. He was not wearing a poncho/shawl.
George P
December 5th, 2009
6:36 pm
Hmmm, and Heather Dinich, so maybe that cancels out. I’m looking forward to reading her in denial article tomorrow when her Clemson crush falls flat on its face
willie martinez
December 5th, 2009
6:36 pm
coach mark canned me, makes three
i said “how can this be”
said he “willie dont make a fuss;
or on you i ‘ll sic russ;
now get outta here,
its time i fear,
to get our Christmas tree.”
tommy
December 5th, 2009
6:36 pm
7-5 and sitting at home blogging on Tech blogg. hahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahhahahahah
AreUSmarterThanA5thGrader
December 5th, 2009
6:37 pm
I gotta question? Since all the puppies think that they should be ACC champs cause they beat us this year, does that mean that we should have been preseason National Champions since we beat em last year?
Wont Jones
December 5th, 2009
6:37 pm
Mark,
Do you ever worry about someone taping you in your room? You are a sports celeb. Still, not sure it would have quite the same impact…
Megan Fox
December 5th, 2009
6:38 pm
Mark,
Come on up honey, the food is being served now. No pizza here, but I’ved ordered one with lots of oysters and anchovies,
willie martinez
December 5th, 2009
6:38 pm
yeah, Mark. fairly funny but no way that guy can keep up my consistency. willie
tommy
December 5th, 2009
6:40 pm
who is the announcers tonight?
willie martinez
December 5th, 2009
6:41 pm
and as we know, a writing career is a marathon, not a dash.
Mark Bradley
December 5th, 2009
6:42 pm
I have never worried about anybody taping me in my room.
Oh, and the food: Beef and turkey are the fair, with potatoes au gratin and several brands of salad. I had the turkey, though I must report that many scribes opted for both entrees.
tommy
December 5th, 2009
6:42 pm
who are the announcers tonight?
Wont Jones
December 5th, 2009
6:42 pm
And the white wine?
Mark Bradley
December 5th, 2009
6:43 pm
Tech wearing all white, it appears. Which would make Clemson … all orange?
Yeesh.
willie martinez
December 5th, 2009
6:43 pm
Mark, tony and bobby were actually looking for christopha and paulie. “Pine Barrens” was the name of the episode. it is one of my uncle carlo’s favorites.
Mark Bradley
December 5th, 2009
6:44 pm
Gates have now opened. There are some people in the stadium. Many are gaping at the pirate ship. (Seriously.)
More orange so far, though.
Mark Bradley
December 5th, 2009
6:44 pm
Oh, that was a great one. “Pine Barrens” was when Paulie and Christopher bungled the hit on the Russian mobster. Directed by Steve Buscemi, as I recall.
Mark Bradley
December 5th, 2009
6:45 pm
I believe the announcers are Blackledge and Brad Nessler. And Erin.
Pi$$onaJacket
December 5th, 2009
6:46 pm
I doubt if tech’s 49 fans will all show up. This is going to look really embarrassing on TV for college football. 30-24. Go Clemson!