A very short post about a very big topic – UGA’s coaching
Here's Willie Martinez, seen doing some actual coaching. (AJC photo by Brant Sanderlin)
Shortest post ever. Three simple questions:
1. Which team has better players — Georgia or Kentucky?
2. Which team won the game?
3. What does that say about the losing coaches?
There it is. Have at it.
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jason
November 23rd, 2009
12:07 pm
icedawg, Yeah, Freakin SUCKS. While King and Wooten have obvious talent, they are and will not ever be AJ.
Billy Ray Valentine
November 23rd, 2009
12:08 pm
Jack Bull,
Thank you for bringing up my good friend Mr. Pete Carroll. He is taking lumps this year because he saw the long-term advantage of starting the bext quarterback, regardless of their age.
He’s got a true freshman in there at qb. I promise you, USC will be in a BSC bowl before Georgia gets back to one.
Best in the business? Hell, right now, he ain’t the best in the state!
10 wins with a chance to win the SEC?? lets look at what it takes to win the SEC and be a national powerhouse. You’ve got to win the big games. Not just one big game a year, you’ve got to win them all. Tennessee, Florida, Auburn, all the big games.
What’s the dogs recent record in big games?
When was the last time they won a big game? florida 2007
Hawk n the Ham
November 23rd, 2009
12:09 pm
Hey Paul Finebaum,
What have you done with Mark??
jason
November 23rd, 2009
12:09 pm
IT goes back to how we lose, not the losses ( we are not competitve in losses such as UA and UF). It is also how we win. How continue to struggle and play down to the level of competition.
Hotrod
November 23rd, 2009
12:09 pm
Cox has had flashes of short lived brilliance.
jack bull
November 23rd, 2009
12:10 pm
GO DAWGS!!! bottom line, turnovers lost this game, nothing more, nothing less….
sorry spelling police, but i do know how to spell,,,legit, just mis-typed, but i guess you’ve never made a mistake before, huh?? except for pulling for the dawgs. some of you really need to go pull for UF or UA.
i’m just saying, don’t run off the best we’ve had in a very long time, you’ll regret it..
willie Martinez
November 23rd, 2009
12:10 pm
i have begun preparing our defense for GT’s wishbone offenese….or is it the triple option?….or the spread option?….oh boy
Dr Philistine
November 23rd, 2009
12:10 pm
Here’s a fact: Only one Bulldog coach in history coached teams to win 3 of 4 games in which they played–and it wasn’t Vince Dooley or Wally Butts. Is it possible that Mark Richt has forgotten how to coach in a season and a half? Doubtful. I think the problem lies with the fact that so many fans don’t want a University of Georgia football team; they want an NFL prep team (without the NFL paying for it, I might add). As a result, they more or less demand that the school recruit players highly ranked by the recruiting services. Those players can play anywhere and go to the school they think will get them to “the next level.” They don’t bleed Georgia; they don’t really care that much about Georgia. They’re a little more selfish than the lesser ranked recruits. They probably aren’t any harder to coach than others, but I bet they’re harder to motivate. Why should a player put his future on the line for a college game when they’re looking at the big pay day at the end of it all? Perhaps, the UGA staff would be better off with recruits of slightly lesser ability who really want to be in Athens rather than superstars who want to be in the NFL.
Dr Philistine
November 23rd, 2009
12:10 pm
Here’s a fact: Only one Bulldog coach in history coached teams to win 3 of 4 games in which they played–and it wasn’t Vince Dooley or Wally Butts. Is it possible that Mark Richt has forgotten how to coach in a season and a half? Doubtful. I think the problem lies with the fact that so many fans don’t want a University of Georgia football team; they want an NFL prep team (without the NFL paying for it, I might add). As a result, they more or less demand that the school recruit players highly ranked by the recruiting services. Those players can play anywhere and go to the school they think will get them to “the next level.” They don’t bleed Georgia; they don’t really care that much about Georgia. They’re a little more selfish than the lesser ranked recruits. They probably aren’t any harder to coach than others, but I bet they’re harder to motivate. Why should a player put his future on the line for a college game when they’re looking at the big pay day at the end of it all? Perhaps, the UGA staff would be better off with recruits of slightly lesser ability who really want to be in Athens rather than superstars who want to be in the NFL.
WildBill
November 23rd, 2009
12:11 pm
Coaching? What Coaching? Some boys playing JV football could do a better job of coaching than the bunch at UGA.
Richt must go
November 23rd, 2009
12:11 pm
can someone tell me the last time Bryan Evans made a positive play? Hes been crap his whole career yet he continues to start? why? Our DC is the only coach in the country that wont pull him. I would rather see vince Vance play saftey than watch Evans try to do it again.
jason
November 23rd, 2009
12:11 pm
Hotrod, amen and in the same games to. He can look like an All-American on one drive and then look like Rggie Ball the next.
CatManDo
November 23rd, 2009
12:12 pm
An awful lot of Cox bashing on this thread. Hey, if we have this kid as QB at UK for the game Saturday, we win it by 20+. That first pick, our tackle (well blocked) just happened to pivot at the right time. And Cox did NOT cause the goal line fumble. The 2nd pick you have to credit to our LB AND COACHING ADJUSTMENT — that same play was a huge gainer for UGA in the first half.
What should concern Dawg fans is not that the team was ill-prepared for the game or did not execute well (20-6 @ the end of the 1H argues against that) but that the coaching staff reaction scheming in 2H was ineffective, relative to UK’s. You know who adjusts better than Rich Brooks’ staff? — Paul Johnson’s. And although the UGA ‘D’ between the tackles is pretty stout, UK had success on the edge (and, uhm, option 3 in the Tech run attack sort of goes there). On the other hand, Tech’s lack of secondary speed is a gift for Cox — and oh so vulnerable to UGA’s mix of under/crossing and vertical pass routes. Never mind that UGA CAN RUN against Tech.
Says here it’s another 80+ point game…
Dawg Fan
November 23rd, 2009
12:12 pm
1. A: UGA definately has the more talented players
2. A: Kentucky won the game.
3. UGA coaches range from inadequate to incompetent!!!!
gadawg
November 23rd, 2009
12:13 pm
jack bull-Bob Stoops and Pete Carroll have national championships in their resume’. That shows that it’s just an off year for them. I do not agree with those that say we should fire CMR yet, he’s certainly earned a chance, but if this off season doesn’t bring abou some serious positive changes he should resign, be fired, whatever.
uuughh...
November 23rd, 2009
12:13 pm
Sadly, Kiffin the younger summed up our offense best when he said “they still run the same plays FSU ran in the mid-90’s.”
For all of the crap that his come out of that guy’s mouth since he has been there…this was right on the money!
jack bull
November 23rd, 2009
12:14 pm
sure USC will be in a BCS bowl next year, look at who they play, silly..duh!!! but i’ll take that bet,,,i’m sure the ajc don’t condone gambling, but i’ll put 5k saying we beat tech this week, and another 5k saying we’ll play for the SEC championship next year…just tell me where to go to shake on it…
Bob
November 23rd, 2009
12:15 pm
LOL. Reshad Jones in the Pro Bowl. My God. What planet are you people on? This guy has the worst instincts of any safety I have ever seen. The same guy that was coaching Sean Jones, Thomas Davis, and Greg Blue is currently coaching Reshad Jones: Willie Martinez. Did Willie Martinez get hit in the head and forget how to coach safeties or was Reshad Jones an overrated prospect that couldn’t hold the aforementioned players’ jock straps? Logic says the latter.
UGA fans are out to lunch about all the talent we supposedly have. It simply isn’t there. Get real.
Truth
November 23rd, 2009
12:15 pm
Poor Joe Cox did not even want to on the field when the game was on the line, He was scared to death and could barely function.
King Gator
November 23rd, 2009
12:17 pm
1. Which team has better players — Georgia or Kentucky? Georgia has better talent year in and year out.
2. Which team won the game? UK (not Wofford, that was basketball)
3. What does that say about the losing coaches? They coach 4&5 star talent down to 3 star game day players. Varsity Team, JV Coaching!
Go Gators!
Richt must go
November 23rd, 2009
12:18 pm
Any one watch Bryan Evans wiff on 5 or 6 tackles saturday? How about the ever so dependable personal foul? He is the worst defensive player UGA has ever had. Why is he in there?
jason
November 23rd, 2009
12:18 pm
Bob, Actually CWM has forgotten to coach the DBs as a whole. He is to caught up trying to be a DC and gameplan there. As you can see, he can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. And I do think Jones will be a good pro football player. He will have good coaching once he gets there.
jack bull
November 23rd, 2009
12:20 pm
UGA-41, TECH-28…we dominated them last year, minus the 3rd qtr…
GO DAWGS, RUIN TECH’S SEASON….
Wille
November 23rd, 2009
12:21 pm
Patton,” Americans love a winner and wont tolerate a loser!”
I demand Mark Richt and his coaching staff give back 75% of their salaries. Their salaries are comparable to the bonuses board members gave their ceo’s who bankrupt the company. MARK RICHT GIVE BACK YOUR SALARY!!
llf
November 23rd, 2009
12:22 pm
When your players are dancing and partying on the sidelines instead of focusing on the game, you have a big problem.
jack bull
November 23rd, 2009
12:22 pm
one last thing,,10 out of the 12 teams we played this year will qualify for a bowl,,,,no other team in the country can come close to that…
Billy Ray Valentine
November 23rd, 2009
12:22 pm
wow, 5k on a gamble that the dawgs beat tech, tempting
5k on the fact that UGA will play for the SEC championship next year. Again, tempting.
You (I mean, your close family member) think Mettenberger is going to lead the dawgs to the dome next year. You’ve got them winning @ south carolina (with mettenberger at the helm) and beating tennessee and florida.
bold statement.
gadawg
November 23rd, 2009
12:23 pm
We still stand a chance to beat Tech. I believe this because we are okay against the run. We dominated Uk, Auburn when they tried to run against us. But then they found they they could complete a pass on us and it was over. Auburn coaches just didn’t get it early enough.
Billy Ray Valentine
November 23rd, 2009
12:24 pm
so far, 5 out of the 11 teams you’ve played BEAT YOU!
Wille
November 23rd, 2009
12:24 pm
MARK RICHT said it was Joe Cox’s turn to be QB. Is that how a coach determines the best player at QB. Maybe this type of attitude sets up inadequated players like Joe Cox for failure.
Because of the incompetence by Mark Richt and his cadre or morons, I am pulling for GT. I hope GT wins by 30.
rodney
November 23rd, 2009
12:27 pm
I’m a true dawg 4 life. Ga has just as much talen as Fla, but Richt don’t let his best athletic win games for him. No way Kentucky should have beaten us, nor Tenn or LSU. We need Rich Rodriguez, his style don’t fit Mich, but it’ll fit UGA. By Richt hello Rodriguez…We want Rodriguez,then maybe we will win a championship
Austin
November 23rd, 2009
12:27 pm
Obviously UGA has the better players. Kentucky is a BAD team, the worst I can remember a UGA team losing to.
We are a very undisciplined, frustrating team.
jason
November 23rd, 2009
12:28 pm
gadawg, I would love to believe you, but as good as UGA has been against the run… We have been killed on option and mis direction. The Spread option has killed us. UKs run suceess was in the spread option or wild cat. UGA does not play discplined football. There is noway we stop the triple option. I say Nesbit and Dwyer get us for a 100 each. Girst play of the game will most likely be Nesbit play action on the dive play with Dwyer and hitting Thomas deep with a 50 yarder. Why? The play action will have both Jones and Evans running to the line of scrimmage. Not enough discplined play by the defense. That will open up the run for the rest of the day.
Delmar
November 23rd, 2009
12:30 pm
I can only hope Richt has the get up and go to at least grease up the replacement UGA good when Tech gets their hands on him
NCDAWG
November 23rd, 2009
12:32 pm
1. Which team has better players — Georgia or Kentucky? Georgia according to rivals and scout .com……Which team has more focused disciplined players. Kentucky
2. Which team won the game? Kentucky
3. What does that say about the losing coaches? That they can be as bad as they can and are not held accountable due to the HC’s loyalty…….Soon CMR is going to have to ask himself…..I am going to be loyal to my family and this University or Loyal to friend(s) that are in way over their head.
revwreck
November 23rd, 2009
12:33 pm
jack bull
maybe we only needed one qtr….just as KY did…see a pattern just stay close and you dont have to win, just wait for you to give it to us..I will not say if we will win or lose I will wait for the outcome but I am not sure UGA can hold us to 28, we have scored more on better D’s
Urban Meyers to Notre Dame!
November 23rd, 2009
12:34 pm
Urban Meyers is NAMED after a Pope. Did you know he is also Catholic? Meyers used to be an assistant at Notre Dame. Meyers referred to Notre Dame as the ultimate coaching job in a radio interview and in his own book.
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/nov/21/david-moulton-dont-bet-urban-meyer-turning-down-no/
OldSkoolDawg
November 23rd, 2009
12:35 pm
The UGA players may be higher rated recruits (i.e., more athletically gifted), but they don’t play as a team. I see a bunch of ‘individuals’ putting in their three years so they can go to the League.
This is not everyone, but most go through the motions, waiting for their individual moment. Then, when it comes, they beat on their chest, saying “Look at me!”
There is no synergy from 11 guys united for one cause. Alas, the coaching staff is responsible for getting talented players to play together as a team and not for themselves.
OoltewahDawg
November 23rd, 2009
12:35 pm
To the people who asked why Orson Charles didn’t get the ball in the 2nd half- Did you consider that Kentucky may have made adjustments and kept him covered?
Why does Evans always start? Maybe he’s the best we’ve got at his position? Think about that?
Why not start someone other than Cox? The other guys aren’t quite ready yet.
The answers to the questions put up by some posters are so simple, but people are so upset over a game played by 18-22-year old kids that they can’t see it. To boo thses kids and walk out of the stadium before the game is over just shows that people’s priorities are way out of line.
Dawgleg
November 23rd, 2009
12:36 pm
WHAT COACHING?
DUFFERDAWG
November 23rd, 2009
12:37 pm
Bradley,
You have to be the laziest “blogger” on AJC’s payroll.
Gratefuldawghead
November 23rd, 2009
12:39 pm
Richt…CLEAN HOUSE or LEAVE!
gadawg
November 23rd, 2009
12:41 pm
Jason- i totally agree- i did say chance
Last year in the first half we played the option very well because they stayed with their assignments. the second half is when they broke the long runs because the defense left their assigments-again discipline. the UGA players also are not focused and are just going through the motions- certainly a sad state of affairs.
tjg
November 23rd, 2009
12:42 pm
Why in the name of UGA VII would we call a pitch out on the one foot line??? The team has two downs to punch it in – up the middle, pound it and if you do not get a TD, you do not deserve to win!
ratherBgambling
November 23rd, 2009
12:44 pm
1. KY
2. KY
3. They should all be fired
Van Halen
November 23rd, 2009
12:46 pm
RIGHT NOW…. Paul Johnson is working in the short passing game on his offense to combat the soft cover two D.
RIGHT NOW …. He is watching the film and studying how to defend our 5 plays
RIGHT NOW …. He is preparing his D backs by drilling footballs at them just like Joe Cox will do
RIGHT NOW …. He is getting the scoreboard to go to 100
RIGHT NOW …. He is faxing in the ring order to Josten.
RIGHT NOW …. Oh screw it, he is already preparing for Clemson and the Orange Bowl
RIGHT NOW …. He is signing for the “We beat UGA two times in a row” rings…
brentATL
November 23rd, 2009
12:46 pm
Mark Richt is the new Phil Fulmer (minus the Krispy Kremes)
NCDAWG
November 23rd, 2009
12:48 pm
Next year is going to worse. UGA losses their 3 best Defensive players (Owens, Atkins, and Weston). The QB situation will be even worse; no QB will have any real game experience. Richts’ loyalty to his coaches and players may be good at times. But to me there is a difference between being loyal and stubborn. Mark Richt be loyal to the University that pays you and the fans……….not your friend(s) that are in over their heads………or you might have a lot of free time to be loyal together as you look for a new job.
GaDg64
November 23rd, 2009
12:48 pm
You have made it clear and often that you do not like Georgia’s coaches. It is time for you to be honest. You do not like Georgia period. You are a typical Tech fan and full of it. Although I am a Georgia fan I like to see Tech do well. Who has the best sportswriters: The Atlanta Journal or the Florida times Union?
gadawg
November 23rd, 2009
12:48 pm
tjg- have u been to any UGA games this year? If we go up the middle we can’t run to the corner with the ball in he air and dance and draw attention to ourselves. Heck running the ball up the middle ain’t cute enough, come on man! We are the same team that runs between the tackles between the 20’s and then decides we need to throw it 3 straight times