The Hot Button: Where would Tech finish in the SEC?

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I would have to agree that! Go Tech! THWG

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I think that you are spot on. The Big 3 of the SEC are extremely fast on defense, but I think that we could have that same ability at Tech. I think that Johnson has done a fine job, and that it wont be long before we are an annual contestant for the national crown. I dont think that we have the defense to stand with the powerhouses yet, but great players like to win and it looks like we will see a lot more victories to come on the Flats. Talent will soon be pouring out in droves to wear the white and gold.

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Luck…

Georgia Tech could win in the SEC and they’ve done so in the past. Aside from that, do you remember a few years ago, SEC coaches saying that the SEC was at a disadvantage because of the parity in the league? Because there weren’t any undefeated teams they weren’t in the NC conversation. What a short term argument! Long term?That parity then brought three of the best teams in the country now. Same with the ACC: beating the snot out of each other now will only make us stronger later on. Maybe then MB can ask an even better question: Where would UGA be ranked if it were in the ACC? (My answer would be 12th… but then I am biased)

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i think this is about right. it would be a toss up between the jackets and lsu for the third spot though. We could challenge UF and Bama consistenly but seldom beat them. SEC is the best in the country, no doubt (though it is somewhat top-heavy). But I want to see what we do to finishout the season. We’re 9-1 now and #7, but “we still havent done anything yet!” Lets smash Duke, handle UGA, beat CLemson, then beat our Orange bowl opponent (If it’s boise, tcu, or cincy, let’s smash em!). Then, i’ll say for sure that we’d be near the very top of the SEC.

***(unfortunately we’re in the acc…)***

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I’m with Mark. And I think the gap between LSU and whoever is next in the SEC is huge!

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Mark,
I agree with your overall premise, that being that this season, the Jackets would probably be the fourth best in the SEC behind FL, AL,and LSU. But I think that’s due more to our lack of defense than their ability to defend our offense. If we can just get say, into the top 20 in total defense, I think it’s a different story. Also, I don’t care what conference GT plays in, with a week to prepare, most defenses aren’t disciplined enough for 60 minutes to contain it. In fact, as to the superior defensive speed you mentioned, speed and discipline don’t always go hand-in-hand. With 3-4 weeks to prepare, a bowl game might be different, especially against a top-notch defense. However, over the course of a season, with a decent defense, I would put us at or near the top of any conference.

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I don’t think LSU would mind much….

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Based on my viewing of the LSU-Georgia game, which UGA should have actually won, I’d say that Tech would place 3rd in the SEC, AHEAD of LSU. I don’t think they’re 3rd in talent, though. I think that UGA and LSU are both definitively ahead of Tech just on players, and SC, Arkansas, maybe even MS are ahead on that score. But, it’s about coaching and talent, and Paul Johnson has proven to be a great hire.

It’s just a shame we don’t have a playoff… please everyone (Tech fans who are hoping for a miracle BCS bid, I forgive you for not joining in) root for a Boise State v. Cinncinnati BCS bowl! Hopefully, that would tick enough people off to demand a change!!!!

(Speaking of… where do you think THOSE teams would sit in the SEC???)

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Ok, I’ll bite. Regarding the inane caption on the lead photo: did you actually watch the Peach-fil-a bowl last year? That was a game decided by special teams gaffes and enormous miscues, not by Essss Eeee Seee Speed (registered trademark) as you suggest. It wasn’t about Les Miles’ legendary preparation skills, as asserted by my LSU friends (I live among them down here in NOLA). It wasn’t about a blueprint to stop the option. It was about crappy special teams play pure and simple. All of the other factors could have very well been overcome, had the whole muffed punt/onside kick chain reaction been interrupted. Respect to Les Miles for his timely play calls, but Tech did about as much to lose that game as LSU did to win it.

Now about that SECSpeed again… you do realize that Tech is the only team to hang 50+ on an SEC defense this season, right? The fastest-of-them-all Gators hung about half that on the same Vandy defense in the swamp. Did Vandy save all of their speed for their game with UF? Hopefully Tech will get to hang 50+ on another SEC defense before bowl season…

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I think it has already been proven that 1-AA and less such teams have what it takes to beat this vaunted Tech squad. That “it” is an opportunistic assignment defense. Shut down the corners, keep the action in the middle contained and wait for the qb to turn it over. Especially in Tech’s case, wait for the cocky coach to gamble and lose.

I’ve heard so much inane pontification from the geek squad this season: “Our offense is unstoppable,” “We own this or that,” “We are the best team in the state,” or the all-time greatest “NFL scouts are looking at our QB.”

MB, it’s your Shangri-La song that helps fuel this situation. The real story should be “If this offense is so great, why isn’t it used in the NFL or any major college program?” “Why does the national media give Tech the fly-by treament?”

I just don’t get what you see here MB. You like PJ, fine. But why in the world go overboard with it?

Charles Foster Kane would be proud.

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Where would Tech finish in the SEC? They wouldn’t. They couldn’t make it through a season.

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Why would a prestigious academic school like Georgia Tech want to be part of an academic scandal filled league like the Schools Education Criminals. Did someone just say Jan Kemp was a hero? We have an offensive lineman majoring in aeronautical engineering. At UgaG you can enroll in the school of food science and eat your way to a degree. It is much harder to get 5 star athletes when your school requires ALL students to take two semesters of advanced calculus. No, I didn’t say “calluses” UgaG, Alabama and Auburn athletes. And Tech doesn’t ask the bureau of pardons and paroles for recruiting lists.

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Mark…your idiotic sec bias is showing.

alabammer and floriduh are mainly media creations. alabammer is basically no better than a weak tennersee team and floriduh was pushed to the limit by a missy st team that tech handled easily.

Tech would be just as likely to beat alabammer or floriduh as they would of beating tech.

You sec homer gomers are just silly. If we ever have a playoff the sec is going to be exposed big time.

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Yeah. Right. I think LSU wouldn’t be ahead.

And you also have to split tech into BM and AM: Before MIami and After MIami,.

And why is it when Alabama barely escapes Vs an inferior team ,y blocking a last minute field goal, its just ‘Evidence of the strength of the SEC”, but when teach Vs a wake team that, records aside, is arguably better than the team Alabama almost lost to. . .

A team not in the SEC plays the same game Alabama did that week they slip down a few slots.

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Mark… I think you are right.. maybe 3rd ahead of LSU.. but no higher.. give Johnson another 2 years and the story may be different

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No question we are behind UF, Alabama, and LSU. Probably 4th or 5th. I would have to say it would be easier to get upset by a middle tier SEC team (Auburn, Arkansas, South Carolina) than a middle tier ACC team (North Carolina, FSU, Boston College).

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M, I guess M= Mindless, Moron, Mouthy, Maniac, etc…….., if you even think GT could lead the pack in the S.E.C…

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I agree with 4th but LSU isn’t as tough as they have been so maybe you can’t rule out 3rd. At this moment would would give UF and Bama a battle. If Tech was in the SEC, with all the national attention they would get would be a big plus recruiting wise. It would raise their media attention even more than their getting right now. So maybe in a few years we could challenge the mighty UF and Bama.

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GT could beat any team on any day. D is only question.

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Four tickets, four hot dogs, four cokes. 51,000 at “biggest game of year” Joke

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Tech can’t throw the ball a lick. That won’t work in the SEC. THey will put nine in the box and shut down the run. Second, the caliber of play is at a consistently high level every week – not patsies in the middle of the season like in the ACC. The grind of the SEC would lead to two or three more losses for Tech, at least until they got used to the routine. Tech would have to be deeper in talent and would have to learn to pass, if not, they would be a mid level team in the SEC. Will say Johnson is a tremendous coach, and with the added exposure being in the SEC, he would fill out that team and get the players he needs to be competitive. But, he would have to adapt that offense. No throw, no win. SEC has too many big defense linemen and too much speed to be one dimensional.

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“Last” is the answer to your question.

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Tech would finish 4th right now….

1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. Tennessee
4. Georgia Tech
5. LSU
6. South Carolina
7. Auburn
8. Arkansas
9. Ole Miss
10. Georgia
11. Miss St
12. Kentucky
13. Vanderbilt

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“Anyone who says there isn’t an imbalance between leagues, at least at their respective summits, isn’t dealing in reality.”

You only have to read posts by m, ramble on, newnan jacket et.al.to know there are no shortage of NATStards on these blogs that aren’t “dealing in reality.” They actually think that beating up on Vandy and MSU, and winning 1 game in 7 against UGA translates into “dominating the SEC”.

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Mark,
I’m glad to see you’re buying into the SEC brand that ESPN has spent billions marketing. The truth is, LSU, Alabama, and Florida are not that good this year. The main reason why everybody thinks they are is because they are in the SEC and started off so high. Florida and Alabama could both easily have a loss right now, and LSU could feasably have 4. Washington came within a quarter of knocking them off and LSU came through with a defensive touchdown. Washington has a losing record. Lowly Mississippi State knocks off LSU if their quarterback sees the pitch man everybody else in the country saw wide open. Florida failed to score on a Vanderbilt team that Tech’s offense took to school (a top 35 defense at the time actually).

Finally, the LSU game was an aberration last year. Most SEC schools we face would not have a month to prepare for our option attack. They would have the same time Vandy and Miss. State had…who both sport SEC speed defenses and got blasted. Georgia had two weeks last year and got blasted. And are you really going to go there with the Clemson Alabama game? Clemson proved to be a mediocre team and Alabama went into the SEC championship game as the #1 team in the land. Not exactly a balanced matchup. And this year Alabama is tops in the nation and Virginia Tech is probably the third best team in the ACC and we’re comparing. How I wish there were a way we could play an SEC team in a bowl this year…

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Big time?? Not, no hotdogs, no cokes, just 9-1. Rather have 51,000 fans watching a winning team than 90,000 fans watching a looser. Leg humpers like you are typical. You have nothing to brag about in that team so all you can do is trash other programs.

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Good article Mark, good year to put Tech back into SEC, perhaps you could return the favor and rank UGA in the ACC, it might be the only good news UGA fans get all year long.

I agree that FL, AL, LSU, then Tech. FL, AL, LSU have had GT’esque games where they win by holding the ball last. I could rank Tech anywhere in the Top 4, should Tech repeat this season with similar success next year.

Finally someone has challenged VT, and exposed their young team. For so many years, they steamrolled through the ACC, and now we see that coaching is a large part of success.

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It’s about the two Ds — depth and defense. Tech would finish fourth, or lower, because their defense would give up too many points. And over the course of a season playing SEC teams, Tech’s starters would get very tired.

But these deficiencies would be corrected very quickly if Tech joined the SEC. The increased exposure and the lax academic standards would allow Tech to recruit the same marginal students who populate the SEC rosters.

Tech has an amazing scheme and is a fun team to watch, but they aren’t exactly blowing teams away. They have won several key games in the second half once the shallower teams’ defenses have tired. That would be a much more iffy strategy against the top of the SEC.

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Scott V: GT “blasted” Georgia last year? What was the score? (I hope you are as arrogant on (Georgia) game day this year as you are now.)

As for Mr. UT, placing the Vols third in your SEC slate is a joke. When the circus leaves town in a couple of years, you will be left with the remnants of Lane Kiffin. He can sell, but his timid “keep it close” strategy in the Florida game convinced a lot of people he was not a championship-caliber coach.

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Wasn’t it Bear Bryant who said the true measure of coaching was if you could take yours and beat his’in and then take his’in and beat yours.

Put them in any order you want but is there is any school in the country that wouldn’t take Saban, Miles, Myer or Johnson? Maybe Brian Kelly when he has a track record, but for my money right now the aformentioned are the top four coaches in the nation.

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CPJ is in his second year. GT will be better than any SEC team in year 4.

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There are quite a few nuts replying to this blog. MB made some valid points I’ve been making around my office all season. The only difference is I’d put UT ahead of Tech too. Seriously. Too many football fans in general do not respect defense one bit. They look at exciting offensive plays and big points to base all their opinions. They think a low scoring game means the teams are “down”. Why don’t they consider a high scoring game between teams like Tech vs Vandy or Tech vs MSU a sign of 2 teams who can’t defend jack squat?

Matchups are everything in sports. I think Tech would be 5th behind UF, AU, LSU (who beat Tech with a weaker team within in the past year), and UT (defense is too good to let Tech get off). That said, does anyone really think Tech’s defense can stop Arkansas? I mean look at Tech’s defensive performances against FSU, Miami, and even Wake Forest and tell me they can keep the Razorbacks in check. And to be honest, I wouldn’t be so sure about the rivalry game 11/28. Sure, Tech won 45-42 last year but isn’t that a toss up in a shootout? Had Tech won that game Florida-style like 45-17 then I’d agree that they are light years better than UGA but they are not.

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Lighten up, Mark. You know that the order is this:

1. (tie) UGA
1. (tie) UF
3. Bama.
4. LSU
5. Miami

UGA is just not playing with their heads this year, but they are the best along with UF. The rest, really, are just fighting for 3rd place. Miami is clearly better than GA Tech, and truly, VPI would go 5th, since the nerds cheated to win that one. Beamer showed the All Cupcake Conference the evidence, so there’s no doubt.

Appreciate you trying to spread the love around, but sometimes the truth is the truth. Tell it.

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There is still a lot of football yet to be played. Though UGA may be less of a team crazier things have happened on Saturday after Thanksgiving to place UGA atop the Jackets. From an alumnus of Tech, UGA will play a tough game against Tech…

…And isn’t Duke 3-1 in the ACC at this point. Before we finish the season three (or four) games early, why not just let the season play out. Polls are given too much credence too soon.

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GTGreg = cry baby walking around with his boo-boo lip stuck out. You got owned by LSU so shut your mouth.

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PJ would adjust with the pass. Maybe his first year wouldn’t be so hot in this regard, but after a while he’d learn he needs two guys instead of one that he can put the ball in the air to downfield in order to get past “that SEC speed.” Other than that, I don’t particularly see the SEC defenses being quick enough to stop the option. Like I said before, we’d get muscled around at the line, but once he’d be there long enough to recruit to take care of that problem, I think we’d be 2nd after a while and assuming oof doesn’t continue their reign, 1st.

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Tech doesn’t have enough loud-mouth, bark-but-no-bite, trailer-trash fans to play in the overrated, overhyped SEC

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It’s a shame we didn’t have this conversation over the PAST TWENTY YEARS! The North Avenue Trade School would have battled Vandy and Kentucky for the basement most of the past fifteen seasons. Welcome to the top ten Jackets. I certainly hope the Dawgs upset you as I sit way up high in 228.

Flush Twice…
It’s a LONG way to North Avenue

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who cares? they will tumble after my guys shut ‘em out!

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As an engineer, I admit I think in terms of design optimization. You usually can’t optimize for two criteria simultaneously. I supported our departure from the SEC to the ACC because the SEC was moving ever faster towards optimizing their football programs to win championships and away from training boys to become young men. Call me an idealist if you like but the football factories have made their choice and they can live with it. I understand that Tech has not exactly covered itself in glory in the past few years with our acedemic problems and extracurricular activites of some former players. However, I don’t ever want us to quit trying because of those relatively few failures.

Go Tech

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ed77, i wouldnt call you an idealist but i would call you a geek.

best, willie

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#1Dawgafan—–Your team is 5-4, and you want to talk about Tech “barely beat”? Look at your “barely beats”. Just take SC and AZ State…not far at all from 3-6. Just to remind you, 3>2, 2>1, 1>0.

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ok big Willie, so where does that put UGA … pee wee?

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Pee wee Willie … how else does your imagination run? Loser

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Unfortunately, sad to say, Tech is not that great. Every game
is a nail biter. Tech can’t dominate anyone. Wake Forest was
a near calamity. Anyone who thinks Duke will be a pushover is
crazy. Duke will pass all day, and Tech has little or no pass
defense. It’s great for Tech to be highly ranked, and for
Georgia to be unranked, but when the actual game is played, they
will be about equal, and Georgia is as likely to win as Tech.
Anyone who thinks Clemson can’t beat Tech is crazy. Clemson
beat Miami in Miami, and scored 27 straight points against Tech
in Atlanta. Tech would be more likely to beat its Orange Bowl
opponent, if it could get that far, than either Duke or Georgia
or Clemson. Tech’s ranking is pretty to see, but all it really
means is DANGER AHEAD. (Go Jackets; beat Dook, UGG, Clempson,
and win the Orange Bowl; then glory in the rankings.)

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I still remember the GT team that showed up for the Miami game. Abberation? No…..it’s in GT’s DNA.

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I used to pull against UGA every weekend but now that the dawgs suck as a football team and having to listen to all the BS from the leg humpers it might be better if they won a few games just to shut them up. I hope that the UGA bloggers are not graduates of that fine Univeristy because you make some of the most lame brain comments I have ever heard. Yes we have some on the Tech side also and they have never seen the inside of a classroom or attended a game.

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gt, my imagination, just like my defense runs wild.

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Jacketman, you need to assist the UGA fan with your symbols. > means greater than.

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Thru the games of this past weekend, the Sagarin strength of schedule (SoS) rankings…….

1. Washington
2. Washington State
3. UCLA
4. Virginia Tech
5. Florida State
6. Oregon
7. Southern California
8. San Jose State
9. Oregon State
10. Georgia
11. Miami (FL)
12. Georgia Tech
13. Virginia
14. Wake Forest
15. Stanford

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AZ, i didnt graduate from uga but i sure like working there.

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Good analysis. One thing you did not mention is the stadium/crowd factor. Another way to write the article would be, where would Vandy finish in the ACC since they are the only team with an ACC stadium?

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tech really hasnt been any good since AL said toe meets leather. and that was a long, long time ago friends.

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AZ Jacket, you are correct Sir…what was I thinking?

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omg! you continue to drink the kool-aid! NO DOUBT! ABSOLUTLELY NO DOUBT, TECH would consistently be near or at the bottom of the SEC teams.

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LOL>Tech does not get it. When Tech loses its superstar QB, WR, and RB to the the NFL(Nesbit as a apecialty player) they will be the same ole Tech. LSU showed last yr what superior athletes with coaching will do to this Offense. Same with Miami. When UGA replaces Willy will be right back in the game. Tech would not be in the top half of the SEC. This year I would say they might be the 3rd best team. Coach PJ is having the luxury of a few great players running his show. Just imagine if Jabo Shaw was running this O. LMAO

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Did Miami have the speed to keep up with Georgia Tech?

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38-3 december 2008. enough said. definitely bottom dwellers

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The UGA Bulldogs rule. NUFF SAID!!

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No one wants to read dumb stories about GT. Stick with the relevant team in Georgia, Mark. The dawgs rule!!

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I agree with mark Bradley as to where Tech would finish (4th) in the SEC (though I have some doubts as to whether or not they could beat Tennessee at this time in the season.). Definately Florida, Alabama & LSU are better than Tech, but Tech would probably lose to most other SEC teams if the Techies were not 100% that day. Of course that is true in their own conference. But as to anyone thinking that the ACC is the worst of the 6 major conferences they are dead wrong, WAY OFF BASE! The ACC is a pretty good football conference with a lot of parity.
My ranking of the conferences:
1. SEC
2. Big 12
3. (tie) ACC & Pac Ten
5. Big East
6. Big Ten

There is no doubt that the Big Ten is the by far the worst of the 6 major conferences!!!! Actually the Big Ten is probably just a hair better than Conference USA, the WAC and the Mountain West.

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I agree, 4th or 5th is about right. Also worth mentioning is that in those three ACC/SEC match-ups all three of those games came off of long breaks. A month long break basically in the GT/LSU match up last year and then in the other two games both teams have two seasons (Spring, Summer) to prepare for a game.

Now, I guess we could say in both the Bama/Clemson and Bama/VaTech game that talent stuck out but I’d even go as far to say coaching. I’d like to see what would have happened to LSU had they not had 4 weeks to prepare to face Tech and had only 4 to 5 days. The same goes for Bama…I think if these ACC/SEC games were played on back to back weeks that we would see even better games

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VERY ACCURATE MARK!!!!

38-3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!hahahahahahahahahaha

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Even as well as Georgia Tech is doing this year they still cannot fill up their cute little stadium. While UGA having a bad year puts 80,000 in the stands even to see the Dawgs play a nobody like Tennessee Tech.

Serious football is played in stadiums in the SEC that are huge and packed out! The ACC on the other hand has serious basketball arenas, but quaint little football stadiums.

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The SEC is the best conference in the land, but the SEC fans who act like playing an ACC schedule is a ‘cupcake’ schedule are poorly informed. There is talent in the ACC which is sometimes marginally coached (like it is over there in Athens). All four of Clemson’s DL will play on Sundays as will a couple of their DBs. Everyone of UNC’s LB run sub 4.5, and they have a couple of future NFL DLs too. It’s not all about VT, Miami and FSU in our conference. And that Wake team you dawgs poo poo? Last year they had the top LB taken in the draft along with a couple of other defensive players. Wake would hang with the South Carolinas, Ole Misses and Arkys of the SEC.

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You are an idiot. It has nothing to do with “SEC Speed,” whatever that is. Vandy certainly doesn’t have “SEC Speed.” I’d venture a guess that neither does Kentucky, Georgia, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Miss St, Auburn, Arkansas, Tennessee, etc. Unless you are talking about Eric Berry. I think what you may mean by “SEC Speed” is “Florida Speed.” They are the only team in the SEC that plays at another gear on defense that no other team has.

I think a more reliable comparison is the strength of the D-Lines. That’s the primary reason why LSU beat Tech last year – well, that and a missed catch in the end zone, a recovered onside kick, a muffed punt return, and a failed 4th and short on Tech’s own 20. That’s the same reason Clempson “shut down” GT, even though they ceded over 300 yards rushing (I think).

It has nothing to do with cornerback speed or safety speed. Those guys are making tackles at least 3-4 yards downfield. If they are the ones “containing” the option, you are in trouble.

The main difference is the ends. If you have big, quick D-Ends, they can get around Tech’s (intentionally) undersized tackles and force the run to the inside. That’s the only speed you need on the team. The rest is making sure your DTs are big enough to clog the middle to stop Dwyer, and that your middle linebacker has enough of a nose for the ball to stop him when he squirts through.

Again, nothing to do with “SEC Speed” (whatever that is). Has everything to do with a top notch D-Line.

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This is moot and irrelevant like uga because gt DOESN’T play in the SEC. It’s not 1960. I still don’t get why so many of you are fooled this year by these sec teams.

Lsu hasn’t beaten one ranked team.
Bama has beaten one.
Fla hasn’t done so either.

All 3 have played 2 ooc cupcakes and Bama and Fla have 3. The refs though have made sure their lack of any offense keeps them undefeated. Eventually though it will show. And what everyone outside of the sec rose colored glasses has been saying will show. That the sec is not that good this year.

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Mark:

It looks like you have run out of topics (GT is NOT on the SEC and it is not likely to be)…well here is some help:

“Local” – With GT win over the UGA this year, is the rivalry back?

“Records”- With PJ/GT having many first wins this year, which GT/UGA game firsts can be broken?

“Recruiting”- Since the UGA regularly ranks top 10 in recruiting, is coaching worth 30 spots or more for GT which had ranks 40th~50th in recruiting?

“Patriotic”- With Navy’s success using PJ system and GT proving that it can score on any team, will the system “spread” in whole or in part?

GO GT !!

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The only reason for this column was to stir up the Georgia fans.I wish you would write a real column every now and then. If Tech were in the ACC they would be a bottom feeder most years..they would be another South Carolina at best..good every now and then but bad just as often..except SC has fans that go to the game. of course we all know Tech doesnt.attendance wise Tech would be 11th ahead of only Vandy.

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I think these Jack(off)ets are as good as the ‘85 team, of which I was the kwahtabak.

Here’s to hangin’ fiddy on each defense we got left.

Burp!

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Being a Vandy Grad gives me a unique perspective on UGA and Tech. Congrats to Tech for having a very good team this year, but you Tech fans are delusional. You’ve got to realize that you’re not a top tier program like Georgia or Al or TN and everone knows it, and you never will be. Every decade or so you’ll come to the table with a competitive team, sit back and enjoy what you have and quit thinking you’ll always be king of the hill, it just wont happen.

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PUHLEEZE! They were in before but they chickened out and joined the basketball conference. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

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3RD IN SEC East and 3rd in SEC west

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Re: whether Tech would beat Tennessee? Depends on what part of the schedule we got them. Early in the season we’d have beat them, but they’re a different team now. They were a botched FG away from beating Bama @ Bama for Pete’s sake! Tennessee could give anyone they played trouble right now.

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LSU played a hell of a game against Abalama (sic)

I’m a GA boy living in Hoover (which is Birmingham’s version of Dunwoody or Alph-forever…)

GA Tech would be at LEAST the 3rd best team in the SEC & maybe the 2nd best team. BUT, anyone who thinks they would have ‘no shot’ to win the conference is deceiving themself.

UGA had LSU probably beat. But for an insane call, LSU would have likely lost to the Georgia Bulldogs. Sure, the Tigers ripped off a hell of a drive, but that bad penalty & the resulting field position that the Tigers got really took the wind out of Georgia’s sails.

Don’t get me wrong. Nothing would make me happier than to see the Dawg’s ruin Tech’s season (unless it resulted in CMR deciding that his staff is just fine as it is…). But it ain’t going to happen (or rather, it ain’t likely).

LSU may not even be able to beat Ole Miss (we’ll find out soon enough). They would be at least a 3.5 point dog to the Jackets.

Not gonna say that MB is an idiot

BUT – I will say that my picks this year (both against the line and straight up) are better than Jeff Schultz’s…

http://perspectives.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=216484&forum_id=53

http://perspectives.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=216486&forum_id=53

http://perspectives.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=216440&forum_id=5

Would love to see Mark join the fun on the weekly picks…

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Third place in both SEC East and west.

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Tech loses to LSU 38-3 last year. I think there are 2 major reasons for that.
1) Tech’s level of success was completely unexpected last season, and there was a let down. That was based on immaturity. I don’t think it’ll happen anymore.
2) LSU had 4 weeks to prepare for the spread option. Time will tell if this type of prep time makes a difference. If it does, then we’ll see a lot of disappointing ends to otherwise successful seasons. If CPJ is right, the extra time won’t matter. I think he is right!

BTW, what’s with the stupid “first!” posts? Sheesh, get over it.

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What are you crazy dude!

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Bradley…I see you are censoring your column…what ever happened to freedom of press and speach?

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You Tech fans have forgotten what happened when you all left the conference and played a team from the SEC with superior talent didn’t you??CPJ is a good coach and does the best with what he has BUT he can’t compete with Good coaching with GREAT talent! I know the truth hurts.UGA will be the second team you all play this year that has comparable talent to Miami and what happened then??Our running game is gonna be going then and AJ well……. is gonna be AJ and it’s gonna be a shootout again.

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Mark,

We are going to find out when Tech starts playing Alabama again. Seems to me when GT was in the SEC, they had no problem beating Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee, et al. Even Bear Bryant had real respect for how tough Georgia Tech was.

My high school coaches in Jacksonville played at Florida and Alabama and they told me that Georgia Tech was the hardest hitting team they ever played and let me know that I would fit in at Tech and get a great education.

Things have not changed.

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Tech would be close to the top. Folks, it doesn’t matter if you give up 30 points when you score on darn near every drive. Vandy punted 7 times, Tech once. We did NOT punt against FSU. What types of teams give Tech’s defense a hard time? Good passing teams. Wake had 20 yards rushing against us. We’d take Bama to the woodshed. We’d be competitive against UF. Ole Miss may be the most threatening team in the SEC, because of the matchup. What you miss with the point about “speed” is that when you can gain 4-6 yards on nearly every play up the middle, you nullify the speed. And sheesh, it almost helps us in the event you didn’t see the 11 minute drive against Va Tech. If you just look at the 2008 score against LSU, you miss that they only outgained us by 10 yards. Scores don’t mean anything if you are speculating. Look at yards gained, yards per play, etc. Those are the stats that give the better indication. Besides, in 2008, we beat the third place team, UGA……since you use 2008 to justify the position. BTW….in 2008-2009, since the article pulls up both, Tech is 4-1, going on 5-1 against the SEC.

Not to mention the fact that every coach we face talks about the near impossibility of preparing for us in a short period of time. Urban Meyer is the only coach in the SEC who even belongs in the same breath as Paul Johnson.

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I wish GT would schedule more games with SEC teams. We have a home and home with BAMA coming up in a few years. Should be interesting enough. Wonder if Saban and CPJ will still be coaching when it hits.

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I have to agree with Calvin except Tech is pretty good offensively, and they are getting better defensively each week. This team believes in what they are capable of doing and has the mind set to get it done. I cannot think of another coach I would want to get me there.

Also, let’s take a look at the “Sagarin strength of schedule” for the top of the rankings:

Florida 42
Alabama 25
TCU 47
Texas 52
Cincinnati 67
Oregon 8
Boise St. 82
LSU 17

At least give the mutts a little credit for the S of S.

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I agree with most who have Tech third, ahead of LSU. I cannot understand what LSU has done this year to garner so much respect, other than lose to Bama and Florida, which, I guess some view as “impressive”.

Here is their schedule:

9/5 at Washington W 31-23
9/12 Vanderbilt W 23-9
9/19 UL Lafayette W 31-3
9/26 at Miss State W 30-26
10/3 at Georgia W 20-13
10/10 Florida L 13-3
10/17 OPEN DATE
10/24 Auburn W 31-10
10/31 at Tulane W 42-0
11/7 at Alabama L 24-15
11/14 Louisiana Tech
11/21 at Ole Miss
11/28 Arkansas

I just don’t see it. The fact they are #8 in the BCS is a testament to the idiocy of preseason polls versus any on field achievements this year.

Honestly, I haven’t seen anything terribly impressive in the SEC all year, but we are getting the benefit of the doubt from the media, and Florida, Bama, and LSU were all highly regarding coming into the season, which is how LSU has hung around.

It’s not just the SEC, look at the Pac 10 with USCw #9 with two losses, one of which is to a SIX LOSS Washington….and tOSU in the Big Televen, ranked # 11 with two losses, one to a SIX LOSS Purdue team.

Awful.

Anyway, back on topic, I think Tech would have performed very well this year, at least #3 in the SEC….and no one wants to play them in a playoff, I guarantee it.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAWGS! SIC ‘EM! BEAT AUBURN!

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Always ahead of the puppies.

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F-105, GT can and does elect to take marginal student athletes. We could recruit with the big guys and would be a very good football team. I have NO idea what Vandy’s requirements admitting football players have been, we can speculate that they don’t put as much priority in allowing marginal students, which would explain their win loss record. For all the GT fans who would disagree with the fact that we have different guide lines for athletes…. We recruit the same players that UGA does and all the rest of the football factories.

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I can’t wait for the Dawgs to once again beat down the Nerds and shut all this “Tech is this and Tech is that talk”. I can’t wait to see all those dejected looks on the faces of the 2/3 full stadium. Tech is a joke and this flash in the pan mentality cracks me up. You can bank on this Nerds…the Dawgs will ruin your season. So make sure not to bring any sharp objects, like a compass point or sharpened slide rule. Wouldn’t want you to hurt yourself when you realize how much of a joke you are. That a mediocre (by Dawg standards) UGA team beats you down like the redheaded step child you are. It will happen..take it to the bank.

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First of all, the whole point of this article was to say where MB thought this year’s GT team would finish in this year’s SEC. I do not think he is that far off if everyone performed to expectations. I think it would be a toss-up with LSU. I also think they could end up higher or lower, but the assumption is based on averages.

What would happen if GT’s defense got better or when PJ’s recruits fill out the ranks is just another if. You could easily say “if Meyer went to ND, if Sagan had a stroke, if Miles choaked on some crawfish, if anyone’s recruiting did not live up to expectations (talk to Richt about this one), etc.”

It just doesn’t matter because it is not reality. Reality is that anyone can win on any given Saturday. That is why they play the games. Each game has it’s own unique set of circumstances and challenges that can turn a game one way or another.

I thought it was an interesting topic, but not of much consequence to deliberate too long.

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I agree with you Mark. The Tech’ers would be about 4th…maybe 5th as I think the Vol defense is probably good enough to stop them.
But for all the crying their fans are doing on here they’ve really got to take a step into reality. Option offense is based on the fact that the opposing D won’t show enough displine to play all the options. UF and Bama…especially Bama have two of the most displined D’s in the country…couple that with speed that is probably greater than your offense and you’ll be lucky to score 10.

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Sorry but I gotta roll with Tech beating UF. Maybe not Alabama, but UF for certain.

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I’ll give you Florida and Alabama. They’re undefeated and likely better than GT this year based on strong defenses, but I think we finish ahead of LSU.

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GT fans that keep making statements like “GT will be consistently competing for NCs” are deluding themselves as they do on a variety of subjects. NO ACC team will consistently compete for NCs anytime soon because of the overall weakness of the conference. Another factor is that unless you are FSU, VT, and maybe Cemson, ACC fans are notorious no shows at bowl games with GT maybe the worst. GT has the worst rep in America when it comes to supporting their team with their attendance and travel. For the time being the SEC and Big 12, USC, and Ohio St. are the odds on favorites to remain the teams most likely to see NC games. Hell, GT can’t even jump johnny come latelys like TCU and Cincinnati. There’s a reason for that. GT killed the city of Jacksonville when they last made it to the ACC title game and now just mention of GT in that game makes the sponsor city cringe.

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Mark, I agree with AL and FL but I would at least call the LSU a draw. Yes, last year’s LSU whooped up on Tech. Turnovers and special team screw-ups cost that game for Tech.

Comparing how VA Tech played AL just after losing their starting running back and how LSU played AL, I would say VA Tech and LSU are fairly even. In fairness GA Tech in not hugely better than than VA Tech but did indeed beat VA Tech. So, this is my only bases for comparing LSU to GA Tech.

Need a playoff system to prove me wrong, or to prove you wrong, or to prove . . . .

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I’m a bit confused by some of the comments. Some have said that we can’t throw and so we could not win. But, Tennessee can’t throw either and they seemed pretty competitive against UF and Bama (I won’t even mention what happened in UGA game). Others have said our defense isn’t good enough. But has anyone bothered to watch Auburn, UGA, or Arkansas. We’d likely finish second or thrid in the SEC.

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I thought the bugnation took 15 fans to Jacksonville last time they made a bowl there, roflmao, nice fair weather fan base!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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cause you can’t beat Florida, Alabama and Lsu, moron…and you are 1 and 7 against georgia this century!! clue in

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i hear the acc is good at chess! maybe just a rumor, roflmao

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GT would absolutely not be in the top 2 or 3 in either side of the SEC. That’s the funniest thing I’ve read in a while. Way to stir up the pot on a rainy Veterans day.

Instead, how about a good journalistic story on some Georgia vets who played sports in the state. Maybe high school standouts who went to war from our state. Anything? Bueler???

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GT is no better than 4th in either division of the SEC right now. With their defense they would have problems with even teams like Arkansas, USC, and Auburn. Tennessee would kill them with their running attack and Monte Kiffin would kill that triple option. GT might be able to beat Vandy and Kentucky consistently but forget it against the rest of the league. GT would be a perrenial 6-6 or 7-5 team and a mid tier to bottom feeder in the conference. With the recruiting classes (49th and 52nd) that PJ has signed they would fare even worse in the future. Of course their recruiting would probably get better were they in the SEC.

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‘GT has the worst rep in America when it comes to supporting their team with their attendance and travel’. Oh, please, cease with the Dawg propaganda. No, we don’t travel well to the dang Chan Gailey Nut Bowl across the country, but we travel as well or better than the majority of ACC teams locally (except Clemson and VT definitely- FSU fans are fickle depending on whether their team is good or not, and Miami doesn’t have a lot of loyal fans, they are a media creation) . If we keep winning and whipping what Randy Cross of CBS Sports called ‘The most overrated and underachieving program in America’, UGA, we’ll draw more fans. But hopefully not the snaggle-toothed moron variety who carry on romantic affairs with their farm animals. You can keep them up in Athens.

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TC . . . We had a Home and Home with Auburn under Chan Gailey. Enough said . . .

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Gt4ever, not quite….

From a simply quantifiable standpoint, the admissions requirements for Tech student-athletes are still higher than the NCAA minimums (even with the bump in NCAA req’s from a year or so ago).

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Yeah we saw what Tech could do against an LSU team that UGA crushed last year AT LSU. GT got their asses handed to them. They would finish 4th in the East at best.

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Tech has dominated Georgia since the rivalry Began…roflmao

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d..d..b,

Then how does Tech have a strength of schedule ranking of #12, playing an ACC schedule? Why are there 6 ACC teams in the top 15 SoS’s? (compared to one SEC team).

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Stupid article. If Mark Bradley was at the NY Times, he would be in dead last….if he could get a job at all. How about writing about real news instead of a hypothetical?

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sec plays alot of cupcake teams, thats why they look so good !!!

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I get so tired of the criticism of Mark. He is an excellent, incisive and intellegent writer. Just go back and check all those columns when he’s called me the greatest defensive coordinator in the state of Georgia for proof.

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I am a little confused here…While I think GT would be in the top 4 easily, I am baffled by those who say Tech would finish last. There are only three teams worth mentioning here: Florida, LSU, and Bama. Other than that, the SEC is FILLED WITH MEDIOCRITY. Tech will probably go 3-0 vs. the SEC this year. Albeit three of the SEC’s worst. I don’t understand how you can make the assumption that Tech wouldn’t make it in the SEC. This is just something that is said to try and take away from the fact that UGA CAN”T MAKE IT IN THE SEC!!!

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Methinks Homer’s a bit nervous.

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your redneck team doesn’t stand the remotest chance against the mighty Yellow Jackets!!!!!

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I agree for the most part. Alabama and UF are great teams but I think it would be interesting to see how tech played them. Now for LSU….we moved the ball against them and had over 400 yards…it was turn overs that absoulutley killed us….special teams fumbled multiple times. Now that we have a kick returner who can fair catch…I think we could beat LSU…..in a shootout. Call me crazy…but LSU was 4 inches away from losing to MSU…

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join the acc dawgs, with proven winners like duke, wake , virginia and b.c., throw clemson and tech up there too!!!!!! the sec is weak!!!!!

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A Florida alum, I’ve adopted Tech as my 2nd favorite team. I really believe Tech would be undefeated now if Miami had not been 3rd game in 11 days. I agree with you about the SCC results,however, I believe that tech would win about 30% of the matchups against Florida,Alabama and LSU. Johnson must get some talent in here on the defensive side. The very fact they are only a 10 point favorite against Duke demonstrates the woeful lack of talent on the defensive side. And we must recognize that Tech’s offense insulates the defense or it would be far worse if Tech had to punt a lot.

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Homer is crying he is so pissed………… plus he got fired last night from his pizza delivery job.

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I think you’re exactly right, Mark. As a life-long Tech fan – and that’s longer than I care to disclose – it pains me to admit it, but it’s true. The top-echelon SEC teams do have superior talent overall, and of course there’s a good reason for that: they’ve been winning for years, and success breeds success, especially in the recruiting world. PJ is just getting started, and given time, he can raise the talent level at Tech, but he – we – are not there yet. It’s still fun to beat up on the SEC, though, when we have the chance

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SEC is Cupcakes…duke is better than half your conference this year. Also where did Matt Schaub, Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers, Devin Hester, Calvin Johnson, and numerous other top draft pics play college football? Ya we dont have any quality football players in the ACC…your right.

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When it comes to the over all college experience – the ACC is far superior to the SEC – where there is much less emphasizes placed on academics and academic integrity of the schools – particularly when involving athletes. Let’s put it this way – if I were a very talented high school athlete from the inner city or from the sticks, and all I wanted to do is make it to the pro level (college is only a stepping stone to the pros mentality) – then I would choose the school that allowed me the least resistance to getting there. I would choose a school that doesn’t have the academic rigors and demands that a GT, UVA, UNC, Duke, etc has (which, academically speaking, whips the likes of FL, UGA, AL, and TN, with the lone exception being Vandy).
In other words, I would choose UGA over Tech, because I don’t want to have to take a years’ worth of calculus, and where at UGA, I can major in such majors as General Studies (yes, that is a major at UGA), Sports Mgmt, Rec Mgmt, Education; though there is nothing wrong with Education majors, my wife got hers at UGA, but that is a major that is not offered at Tech. So, while the SEC may be superior in athletics (particularly football), it has also been proven to be about the weakest in over all academic standards and athletic graduation rate. I would dare say that 90% of the college football players who play in the SEC could not even come close to getting in their respective schools if it weren’t for the fact that they are “football players”. Heck, most of them wouldn’t even be in their own local community college. In fact, my wife, who I previously mentioned obtained a degree in Education at UGA in the late 1990s told me that several of the football players were in her classes and it was so pathetic how unprepared and uneducated the “players” were. And how they could really care less about being in the classroom and how they all seemed to get by without doing much at all – and still (somehow?) made great grades.

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Exactly genius…that was my argument…thanks for picking the obvious out. We could beat LSU just like we beat UGA last year…

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Dear I AM a Homer

Your rant is amazing. I love that you’re yet another UGA fan, somewhere behind a computer, losing his mind.

We Tech fans love you UGA guys going over the edge in droves. You couldn’t have *planned* this season any better.

Have another drink, and fantasize about CPJ coming to coach the mutts. Cheers!

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Wiley,
Hmmm…you’re basing beating LSU because you beat UGA LAST YEAR, yet, I seem to remember the last game of Tech’s season LAST YEAR being against LSU. How did that one turn out again?

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To I AM a Homer – “could you please tell me what GT has done??” – yea – GT kicked your little puppies butts last year. BTW – what the heck has UGA done? Particually with their so-called Top 10 recruiting class?? CPJ has done much more with the talent that they have than CMR will ever do.

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Tech should go back to D-1 Independents. Then we wouldn’t have to share our bowl money with all the teams in the ACC.

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This is really a poor topic and reach Mark.

I realize you are trying to seel stories but base it on facts rather than guess work. The facts are tech is in acc not the sec. Tech left the sec for better or worse.

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You did play LSU last year and what happened? Great point NERD.

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If you refer to my first post…I talk about that game. We turned the ball over multiple times…but had over 400 yards…the defense didnt shut us down as much as we shut ourselves down. We beat ourselves and LSU beat us…but this year I think we would win. We havent turned the ball over one time on special teams the entire year…last year in the LSU game alone it happend like three times. Different teams…different years…..any given saturday.

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Not any better than third in either division.

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Hey, Mark, here’s an idea for another article. Since you’ve discussed where Tech would finish in the Suspiciously Eligible Conference, now let’s consider where UGA would finish in the ACC Coastal. I say 4th behind us, Miami and VPI&SU, although with UNC’s defense and improved play lately, they might go 5th.

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Future Engineer – Tech bolted from the SEC to go to the ACC? Do your research before you run your mouth. Idiot.

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GThor the difference is you guys don’t show when you win. When FSU is winning Tallahassee rocks.

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So Wiley that makes how many BCS bowl wins for the ACC since the inception of the BCS? Two? I rest my case. The ACC is a weak sister. THat’s just fact.

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GT could give LSU a run for its money, GT did a great job last year in the Peach Bowl against LSU
what a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You could make the argument that if Tech was in the SEC then you are recruiting the same pool / quality players..so Tech’s speed would be equal or on same level. The key for Tech is to maintain what they are doing now to re-build their ‘brand’ and maintain it.

No doubt LSU killed us in the Peach Bowl. But if Tech can maintain this quality of play for a period of time you will recruit even higher caliber players and compete against the elite SEC teams. I would feel comfortable with Tech playing any of those elite teams in the SEC right now and having a solid chance to win.

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SEC POWERHOUSE NOT,

You are aware that CPJ described your bees to a T, right? In this decade alone Tech has shamefully played J-Ville State, Furman, The Citadel, UConn (before anyone knew they even had a football team), Samford, Troy and f’n GARDNER-WEBB.

So please, give me break.

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lol Jim R….the same UT that lost to UCLA!!!!!!AT HOME!!!!!!!!! The same UGA team that had to get a last second kick to beat a terrible (4-5 in the pac 10) Arizona State team….AT HOME!!! Oh and lmao South Carolina?? The same team that scored 7 points against the worst defense in the ACC(NC State)….duke scored over 50 points on NC State. Come on quit denying it…Tech scored 56 points on vandy and 41 on MSU…both teams that held other SEC offenses in check….even UF. Im willing to bet Alabama doesnt score more than 20 on MSU this weekend.

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Each conference recruits for it’s conference. In the ACC everyone has tried to keep up with Va Tech. In the SEC everyone has tried to keep up with Florida. Ga Tech plays the bottom and top of the SEC each year. Ga Tech has finally proven itself in beating Ga. Ga Tech has the speed but lacks the size. It will always be that way. The one thing we do have is CPJ and that will be the difference maker.

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If Tech wants to get to the next level they need a defense.

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How would Tech do in the SEC? It is questions like this that show we need a playoff. I sometimes wonder why we need a National Champion. Let the players enjoy the bowl games and have great matchups from teams from different conferences. Until there is a playoff we truly don’t have a national champion. Nobody knows how a team would do in another conference.

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Next question is where would UGA finish in the ACC Coastal. I’d say 4th behind Tech, Miami and VPI&SU. Maybe 5th behind UNC since their defense is so strong, and they’re starting to play better.

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If Gt was in the SEC, the SEC power rating would drop to 2nd behind the Big 12. We can’t afford another Vandy in the conference. 1 win in 8 yrs does not a powerhouse make.

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Two things you missed, although I like the story.

1. Give Tech a few years recruiting in the SEC and things would change personnel wise.

2. DT’s – the secret to stopping our offense is great DT’s. I don’t mean good tackles, great ones! You have to have speed, size and power. With a pair of DT’s that can dominate, you can blow up the option. Of course, you can blow up any offense with that kind of DL.

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Mark – nice job! I know you did not think of this subject on your own This had to come from a staff meeting. “Way to get the feathers ruffled”. I hvae no idead where Tech would finish if they were in the SEC for one year. But, I can assure you that if they were there more than one year, Paul Johnson would find a way to get to the top, QUICKLY.

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you must keep in mind that the SEC has one thing the ACC doesn’t; money. between highly lucrative tv deals, multi-million dollar facilities, and anything an 18 year old kid could want, including the most exposure for nfl scouts, there’s no way joe blow is going to pick an ACC school over an SEC school. if you put Georgia Tech in the SEC, and they got a piece of that money (TV deals, bowl tie-ins, etc), that would totally change the dynamic of the school. imagine the kids CPJ could recruit with all that extra money in facilities, perks, etc. now you’re looking at a florida defense (GT already has a better offense than Florida, including Nesbitt having equal, if not better stats than Heisman-bound Tebow). just a small quip, but you can’t compare SEC to ACC without certain qualifiers.

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GT is good, but delusions of perpetual grandeur are a bit premature. This year, Nesbitt and #8 are very good at what they do. In fact, a WR as good as #8 is not likely to be in Atl again for a while, and taking that away really would hurt that offense, if you find a qb that is as tough as Nesbitt.
But the reason Bama, UF, possibly LSU or others could beat Tech is defense. GT’s defense is okay, but not great. #91 is really good, but they are not deep enough to keep up a high level of play for a whole game.
Besides, I am thinking the Orange Bowl this yr will be full of just that, ORANGE.

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Jim R. @ 10:06am – You really should do your homework before you post. Tech put up 314 of offense to LSU’s 324 in last year’s chicken bowl. Their defense DID NOT shut us down. We shut ourselves down with turnovers and stupid penalties. LSU won the game – period. We got embarrassed but Les Miles’ defense only shut us down to the degree that our defense shut LSU down. There was a whopping ten yards of difference.

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Wiley you’re the very type of guy that will drop off the face of the earth IF UGA beats Tech. And it IS possible. Truthfully, whether you believe it or not, GT ain’t there yet. They’re a flavor of the day. Do it consistently and that will change. But some of the guys above are right. Tech doesn’t have the defense to compete in the SEC week in and week out.

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Nice try Suspiciously Eliglible Conference,

The God awful ACC has 5 teams that aren’t even playing .500 ball. What a joke.

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Cherokee – Please point out where I was crowing about a winning streak? Oh never mind, you’re just another of the UGA backers that posts without any basis in fact. I get it. I guess if my team was struggling to have a winning season, I would be inclined to create my own reality too.

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Suspiciously Eligible Conference and Jaded Jacket,

You tools are aware the ACC has F-I-V-E teams that aren’t even playing .500 ball, right? What a joke!!!

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hey, Almost Competitive Conference

Bama and UFL play these teams in one season, hahahahahahahahahah you cannot make it up and by the way, Charleston Southern (Baptist College) is only a Div 1AA school because they were forced to be because of the basketball program. They have a enrollment of about 2000.

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holy crap my grammar is bad…you can tell I went to Tech. The first to should be a for*

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The tool is that you can’t comprehend that there are 4 ACC teams in the top 25 and 3 SEC teams. Wow, that must come as a real shock cause I know you tools can’t read most of the names.

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Tech82, wrong again. GT bolted the SEC over scholarship limits only to get burned when the NCAA imposed limits across the board. The SEC wouldn’t take them back. Google and you will find this FACT. Idiot.

In 1971, the ACC lost a member in South Carolina, which two decades later in 1991 became a member of the Southeastern Conference. The ACC operated with seven members until the addition of a former Southeastern Conference member, the Georgia Institute of Technology (”Georgia Tech”) from the Metro Conference on April 3, 1978.

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I would have to say that I am a die hard uga fan. I even work in teh university system of georgia. However I have to tell it like it is. What’s wrong with Uga is that we keep giving them a pass. We keep calling them a powehouse. True powerhouses do not have drop offs like Uga. look at Fla, Ala, Lsu they keep rolling. So I would have to say Uga is a pretender want a be.

Georgia Tech has defifed the odds. No one though they would be where they are at today. The reason is the difference in coaching styles. True talent will make it to the NFL if thats what you or destined for. However what Uga is doing is annotting kids as NFL players and they come in acting like it, except they leave the football skills wherever they came from and the skills are not brought to Athens. Paul johnson on the other hand demands respect and reminds you that it is a priviledge to play Division 1 football and not a right.

For anyone to say that GT would not succeed in the SEC is living a pipe dream. I think with the way they run the ball , because the backs at GT are as good as any SEC back.

Solution CMR needs his fire back, also start back calling plays. Get rid of WM are demote.Lure Tommy Tuberville to be Defensive co. pay him whatever you need to then maybe we will start rolling at UGA.

But until GT shows other wise they are here to stay. So give them credit until they show us they don’t deserve it. The AJC keeps overshadowing GT, but maybe if you told the truth about the programs both would succeed. I am from the state of Georgia so I love any success that any of our schools should have over other states. Thats from Junior colleges to Division 1. So GT keep defying the odds and stay out of the media and you will continue to succeed.

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Heh Heh……Good one Bradley……Heh Heh……

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Arnold Decker – If you take the time to actually read my post (that, of course, assumes you are literate), you will see that I never denied we were once members of the SEC. My point was that we DID NOT leave the SEC to join the ACC. You stand corrected.

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Where would Tech rank in the SEC?

Ahead of Georgia.

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Tech is good right now. But can they really bash Georgia? How many wins does UGA have over Tech? And how many years did UGA beat tech before they got a win? And before that it took seven years for Tech to put together a three year win streak. The point I am trying to prove is that UGA maybe down but they are still the elite program in the state. Tech fans bashing UGA is like UGA bashing Florida. It’s pointless because it is obvious they have your number. So go jack off to Nesbitt-Dwyer highlight film and soak in the glory days of your program because they will be back in the closet very soon. Trust me.

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Okay, I don’t really have a dog in this fight, since it appears that this has once again become a tech versus dawg discussion. First and foremost, tech is having a great year. Yea for you. But when you start off by stating that the SEC is not all that, you just show your ignorance and pretty much disagree with every known sports writer and authority in the field. The SEC is the premier conference and has been for a long time, and more then likely will be in the future.

As far as how Tech would do? Interesting. Could they take the weekly pounding form Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, Uga, LSU and still be a contender? That’s the big if? And one of the major issues the SEC has, our teams spend the season beating the heck out of each other, and by the end of the year most are worn out.

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This is not just a question of “who are they better than”. The fact is, the SEC has a lot more teams you have to show up against. Tech won shootouts over Miss St. and Vandy (combined 2 wins in the SEC). South Carolina, Arkansas, Auburn, Georgia, and Ole Miss all bring the firepower to overwhelm Tech’s defense. Georgia and Auburn being the only two with suspect defenses in return. Tennessee would likely shut the triple option down as completely as LSU, Alabama, or Florida. The recent display of offense at UT suggests they could score as well. Depending on how the schedule falls, Tech could wind up with a series of 4-5 brutal games in which a 2nd or 3rd place finish is wishful thinking.

The biggest difference is the SEC defensive lines. They are bigger and more athletic than any in the country (overall). The triple option would have a much tougher time in the SEC because half the teams sport D lines that can overwhelm Tech’s offensive line. Add to that, Tech’s defense stinks. You CANNOT win in the SEC without defense…ask UGA and Willie Martinez.

As a comparison, this year’s Tech team reminds me of last year’s UGA team. The difference is Auburn and Tennessee are much better this year (two teams UGA barely beat last year). That UGA team suffered 3 losses and won a couple of shootouts. Were UT and Auburn better, it could have been worse. Why? No defense.

If Tech has UGA’s current schedule, I predict at least 4 if not 5 losses. They would lose the opener @Oklahoma St., LSU, @UT, Florida, and I’m not sure they would beat both South Carolina and @Arkansas in back to back games after Oklahoma St.

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When you consider that Vanderbilt’s offense put up 24 on Tech (far more than they’ve scored on any SEC opponent), it’s certainly fair to say their defense is far from SEC-calibur.

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First in the Big 10
First in the PAC 10
Second in the Big 12
Hopefully, First in the ACC

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Nativebird – Other than Tebow (Fla) and Mallett (Ark), which SEC quarterbacks do you consider better passers than Josh Nesbitt?

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I would say GT would rank 3rd in the SEC. Not bad considering the 1 & 2 in the SEC are 1 &2 nationally. But Tony, I’m surprised! Your column is just a “Poke in the eye”,to the sainted Bulldogs!

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Ed77 – Tech w/d from the SEC due to greed. Bobby Dodd created a monster in the 50s and 60s – they had to share whatever $$ from their bowl with everyone else. Smart move, as it turned out. Coach Dodd retires, Tech falls into oblivion, joins a joke conference after the SEC tells ‘em to buzz off when they tried to get back in, then wallows in obscurity for decades. (Yeah – I’m aware they won a split NC in 1990 – great team that year.) Coaches Ross, O’Leary and Johnson had moments – I’m looking forward to seeing what CPJ can accomplish at The Flats. Unlike most UGA alums, I root for Tech until the Last Saturday In November. I’m enough of a realist to recognize UGA can’t win ‘em all forever, but I’ll take Mark Richt’s record against the Jackets any time! Maybe after this year the Tech folks will get off their wallets and buy some tickets. My son’s in the AUMB, so I’m really looking forward to Saturday night in Athens. Once that bit of family business is done, I’ll look forward to UGA’s biannual win in Midtown! Go Dawgs!

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Tech can’t handle the SEC, which is why they bolted from the conference years ago!!

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Andrew but we also played Clemson,UNC, FSU, and Miami(even though though we lost). All those teams have incredible amounts of talent and field players with similar size and speed. Clemson has two five star Defensive ends, UNC has multiple 5 star and four star defensive players,and we all know FSU and Miami are loaded…I mean loaded with defensive talent. UNC’s defense is almost a mirror image of UT’s defense. As for Auburn and UGA’s defense…they matchup very well with FSU’s lmao!

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Here’s something to chew on. The ACC and SEC both have 12 teams. However, the SEC, as mighty as they are, will have played 10 more cupcake opponents than the ACC in 2009. That’s almost an average of one more easy game per team in the SEC. Kinda weak in my opinion.

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By the way, it has been a long time since Wake was Weak Forest. They are disciplined, smart, tough, and well coached……unlike UGA and some other members of the SEC. I only wish UGA played Wake…..that would be a fun afternoon for Tech fans. Talk about humiliating the dawgs!
To suggest that Ky is significant at all is ridiculous. UGA has been struggling with that “powerhouse” for years and once again the UGA fans have justified this and turned it into glory.

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Tech would do well in its first year. In the second year with some experience against that offense, Tech would join Vandy at the bottom of the conference. On defense, Tech doesn’t have the athletes to compete.

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Evans, look at who the SEC is playing out of conference. The SEC schedules easy games to pad their win totals.

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Mark. I’ll go ahead and jump the gun on where UGA finishes in this year’s ACC. Anywhere from 1st – 4th. Clemson, Miami, Tech and Va. Tech would all be competative with UGA based on where I think the Vegas line would be set (3 – 5 points either way) and the venue of the game. UGA would be favored over all other ACC teams.

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Vols_1…hahahahaha. So your telling me a conference with DUKE, BC, UNC, VT, NC State, Maryland, UVA, and Wake Forest doesnt have enough smart people to figure out how to stop this offenes?? If there was a magical way to stop this offense someone would have figured it out 30 years ago when PJ started running it. Just like with any offense or offensive scheme, spread pro set…etc, it can be stoped with proper execution. If your logic held true than UF would have been figured out two years ago…but nope they still are owning your conference with a similar offense. The only difference is they run it out of the shot gun….instead of center.

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Tech w/d from the SEC due to greed. Bobby Dodd created a monster in the 50s and 60s – they had to share whatever $$ from their bowl with everyone else. Wow – smart move, as it turned out. Coach Dodd retires, Tech falls into oblivion, joins a joke conference after the SEC tells ‘em to buzz off when they tried to get back in, then wallows in obscurity for decades. (Yeah – I’m aware they won a split NC in 1990 – great team that year.) Coaches Ross, O’Leary and Johnson had moments – I’m looking forward to seeing what CPJ can accomplish at The Flats. Unlike most UGA alums, I root for Tech until the Last Saturday In November. I’m enough of a realist to recognize UGA can’t win ‘em all forever, but I’ll take Mark Richt’s record against the Jackets any time! Maybe after this year the Tech folks will get off their wallets and buy some tickets. My son’s in the AUMB, so I’m really looking forward to Saturday night in Athens. Once that bit of family business is done, I’ll look forward to UGA’s biannual win in Midtown! Go Dawgs!

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I agree, but Tech is on the rise. That’s why I feel so sorry for Dawg fans.. lol Must be awful watching their program go down the drain because the Coach puts his personal feelings ahead of the good of the team and its fans…

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JJ. You sound like the typical insecure tech fan. Try to be OBJECTIVE and stay on point without digressing to all the negativity.

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As a Tech alumnus I love to say that Tech would win the SEC, but our current guys could lose to any team we play and lose badly. An SEC schedule would be very tough but I think this year’s team would finish someplace in the middle of the pack.
Mark, If Anne Cox lets her publication of Pravda continue for two more years, ask the question then. Johnson will have the hogs on the o line and the war daddies for the d line to go with the skill guys. The SEC will not want any part of GT after 24 months.
THWG, THWND

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JJ is the perfect representative of the Yech fan base. Very insecure, envious of UGA, jealous of our ownership over his bees, ashamed Yech plays in a joke of a conference and has only one real conference title to show for it. It’s hilarious!!! His misery puts a huge smile on my face

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RealityYech – Paul Johnson is 4-1 against the SEC so far with at least one more “W” to come this year. Nuff said.

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I just don’t know why Mark Bradley has turned into Terrence Moore… stirring the pot for the sake of stirring. There is no other valid reason for this column. We all know Tech is better than UGA this year, why compare them to the SEC? Congrats AJC… you’ve got a new head idiot sports columnist. Terrence’s mantle has been taken up.

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HBTD – we’ll just change your name to “pure conjecture and absent of all facts.”

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Yeah Tech82, stacking his schedule with the two divisional bottom feeders is very admirable.

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Tech82:

“Nativebird – Other than Tebow (Fla) and Mallett (Ark), which SEC quarterbacks do you consider better passers than Josh Nesbitt?”

Joe Cox’ career QB rating is 138.4, Nesbitt’s career4 QB rating is 114.8, so I guess technically, Cox would be a better QB.

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4th in the sec sounds about right and I think Mark is spot on with his article. Tech could possibly beat Alabama and Florida on any given day but it should also be noted that LSU especially, Ark, Auburn, UT, Ole Miss, South Carolina, UGA, and even Kentucky could all beat Tech on any given day.

I hear some people with idiotic comments such as pointing out that Bama had a close game against UT. Is that the best you got? We still won the game. And now folks are criticizing us not because we lost but because somebody came close to beating us? That’s unbelievable.

The UT game is the only game Bama has played where we didn’t win by 2 scores or more. Same with Florida I believe. I think they only had one game where someone played them within 1 score and every other game they won by 2 scores or more.

If you use that argument then Tech is a really bad team. Why? Because Tech not only has a loss and a bad loss at that by 16 pts but they also have a series of close games that they won by a single score or less. They barely got by with a 3 pt win over Clemson, a 5 pt win over FSU, a 5 pt win over VT, and they had to go to overtime to get a 3 pt win over Wake Forest. That’s a bad 16 pt loss and 4 barely won games by margins of 3,3, 5, 5 pts. I am not impressed with a team that has eked out a series of close wins.

Bama destroyed Clemson last year, beat VT by 10 in a game which was a statistical blowout 500 total yds to 150 for VT and Bama ended the game on the VT 12 yard line. We could have poured it on and beaten VT by 13-17 if we wanted to run up the score.

UF destroyed FSU last time they played them while Tech barely slides by.The cold hard stats say that Tech isn’t close to Bama or Florida and we won’t even get into LSU since we all remember what happened last year.

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Mark you really caused a Buzz with this topic. Is this the most responses to a blog that you have received? First, Tech would rank at the Top this year and years to come with this coach and the system. The SEC has been strong because they have played well in the out of conference games against the rest of the country over the last few years. But, who are we talking about. Because this only refers to Florida and LSU. Both won NC titles beating Big Ten OSU and Big 12 OU. Now what no one talked about was the Alabama loss to Utah. Last year WF beat Ole Miss, Tech beat UGA, Miss ST and loss to LSU. Clemson has been beating up on South Carolina for several years. Tech beat Auburn the last two times they played. And you can site SEC teams that have beat ACC teams recently too. But, what people see is only what they want to see. The ACC will and is getting stronger but the only way we will show this is in our SEC games. So FSU, Miami needs to beat UF. Tech over UGA etc. But what does it mean when the Slant is so largely favored in the SEC. Boise has done nothing but win. Over OU and everyone else. They get no love but the mighty SEC is scared to play them. Actually, the out of conference games in the SEC is getting weaker. So you and CPJ are right. A playoff will be the only equalizer and that in its self is why it wont happen. I am glad I got my NC ring when I did because the bias in college football has gone from the polls to the bowls and now to the officiating. Crap.

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Hey Andrew, did you watch the Tech-Wake game? Tech had a bad game and still won. We dropped passes, overthrew wide open receivers, and had a ridiculous number of penalties. We did not struggle with the Wake defense as much as we struggled against ourselves. It is a mark of a good program to win on the day when things go against you. We have that now, where we never had that in the past. I admit that we would be 2nd in the SEC east and probably 3rd in the west, although I think a Tech-LSU game this year would be very entertaining. Auburn, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina have all had offensive problems this year, and frankly we would outscore them. And I would love to know how Georgia Tech football players have enough time in a day to take a bus to Georgia State and back and still attend practice. meetings, and weightlifting.

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y0,

NeBodiEz g0tZ a ReQuEsT 4 a LiCeNzE pLaTe? I bEe SelLiNg sUm cUsToMz 0n dEe SiDe!!!

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Loser. I believe conjecture is the basis for this blog. An OPINION based on where tech falls in the SEC?? The only think I know factually this year is that tech won close games against MSU and Vandy, and I’ve ranked tech above those two teams.

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tech’s academic standards are to low for admission to the sec.

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HaY JoEy!!! CaN u MaKe MeE a SwEeT tAg 4 mAh ExCaLaDe!?!?!?!

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the ACC is far superior in football and Academics……As all and i mean all my TECH colleagues on this blog aree ………Georgia has zero chance of beating TECH on the 28th, enough said

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SEC is: right. take the points and bet heavy.

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Tech academic standards aren’t that hard. Hell, they rolled out the red carpet for me when I accepted their offer.

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lunchtime. think i’ll call the orkin man to come spray this blog for bugs while i’m away.

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HBTD

Did you watch the LSU v GT game?? Did you see the stat lines other than the score? GT put up over 300 yards of total offense on LSU and we’ve only gotten better since then. It was our 3 turnovers that eventually lead to the blow-out

LSU beat us, but to say we were not able to compete is ridiculous.

LSU has gotten marginally better this season and GT has gotten MUCH better – GT is 9-1 with 2 games left to play that we will be favored in – not to mention our #7 BCS ranking…2-0 vs the SEC

GT’s defense is not there yet, but I would say GT has a good shot at beating LSU, Bama, or UF in a bowl game this year.

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Close, but to spot on, Mark. Alabama beat Clemson when the Tigers were beginning to fall apart at the start of the year. LSU beat GT at the end of their first year with Johnson’s new offense

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Kumar @11:14 – Paul Johnson had nothing to do with the schedule Tech has played under his tenure. Schedules are set many years in advance. He just plays (and beats) the teams that are on the schedule.

Paul’s Johnson @11:15 – Forget career numbers. Stop living in the past. There are three SEC quarterbacks that have higher passer ratings THIS YEAR than Josh Nesbitt. Unfortunately for you, Cox isn’t one of them.

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i think we beat an acc team too, don’t forget about us!

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As usual, the ACC has proven to be the weakest BCS conference in the nation. Another example of why their automatic BCS bowl bid should be stripped. 5 teams currently below .500 and they play disgraceful OOC games. What a joke.

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Tech82, at least Joe Cox can read and write unlike your boy Nesbitt.

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BJohnDawg

Glad to know that you think beating Notre Dame 33-3 in South Bend is considered ‘barely beating a team’

I guess UF just barely beat you guys this year when the won 41-17

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You really think Tech athletes would fair any better taking classes at State? They’re actually at Morehouse and Atlanta University. Very sad state of affairs at the Trade School.

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and leave notre dame out of it we were alot better than mighty Navy

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tech rules

November 11th, 2009
11:36 am
get over it dawg fans, Mark Richt can ‘t beat us!!

What is 7-1 record if he can’t beat you

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On Techs best year they would be only an average SEC team.

They belong in the ACC. If UGA don’t change, perhaps they should change to the ACC.

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Not sure GT would beat UTK. I think UTK would stop GT’s running game while UTK’s offense is good enough to score on GTs weak D. Also, AU/GT would be high scoring. Neither D is that good but both O’s would have a field day. Bottom line, GT would fall somewhere between 4th and 6th in the sec.

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I have a theory as to why Tech students are getting mugged everyday. I don’t think it’s the fact they’re necessarily getting mugged, persay, I think when the see the likes of thugs like Burnett, BeBe, Tarrant, Thomas, Jones and Nesbitt walking around, they just decide to empty out their wallets and purses and run.

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Big Dawg fan here, and as others have said, I’m not so sure GT wouldn’t beat LSU this year.

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PTC Dawg…. Tech didn’t beat the same LSU team last year.

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tech may bypass the bcs title game and play in the SUPER BOWL!!!!

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luby

Funny that all of those players you mentioned are african-american

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Mark, I disagree. I think Arkansas would pass Tech silly and win. I think Tennessee could beat them with defense. Vanderbilt and Miss. St combined for 8 turnovers against Tech. That’s how they won those games. Anyone in the SEC with a decent defense and the ability to throw the ball could beat them.

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WILD DAWG RULES! WILLIES BOYS PREVAIL. DAWGS BEAT TECH 34-17. GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!

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hey Ben 11:38….I like the way you think, this is the same Tech team that kicked your butts last year…but this year you are missing your qb, rb and the receiver that caught all your passes last year..according to you we would then win again right?

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This is not the same LSU or the same GT teams from the bowl game last year. GT lost 3 NFL d lineman, and NFL O lineman, and a cornerback. LSU lost people also to the NFL…not the same teams…not the same game. Look at our offensive numbers this year…of the charts compared with last. Defense got worse…offense got better…I would love to play an SEC team on any given saturday. No fear from this Jacket fan.

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tHAT’S WHY RICHT KICKED YOUR ASS 7 OUT OF 8 YEARS THERE tech rules.

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revwreck you may be correct. GA Tech may beat GA. That is not the question. The question is where would Tech finish in the SEC. I say it is like this.

Florida/Alabama
LSU
South Carolina/Tennessee
Arkansas
Georgia Tech

So Tech would be around 7th.

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Crimson Nation – have to call you out on your logic here.

“who the hell doesn’t play at least 3 cupcakes. Tech does. They play Jax state and the 2 worst teams in the sec.”

So – does that mean that you actually have 5 cupcakes on YOUR schedule (your 3 D2 cupcakes plus MSU and Vandy)?

You can’t have it both ways.

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Apples and Oranges AGAIN, for the second straight blog.

Dadgum Bradley, you’re getting to be as lame as ESPN Nation. It’s a worthless argument.

Yes, you got lots of hits form the tech and uga faithful, but how about a blog discussing something from REALITY and not merely conjecture?

In case you can’t tell, I’m no fan of “reality shows” either. Sports have great appeal because they are unscripted.

I think you are a pretty good writer, as I’ve told you through the years. But how about some reality in the blogs.

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Hey JacketNation,

Who were those players buying their weed from Rueben Houston? Yes, Ga. Tech has its own criminal element. Ninety-nine percent of UGAs “criminals” are immature young men who don’t get their license renewed, drink underage at a frat party or ride scooters on closed streets and a few more serious incidents like DUIs (ala John Dewberry, remember him Tech fans). People that live in glass houses … you know the rest. JacketNation what a pompous A$$ you are. That’s the real problem with Tech football gaining respectability, all of you fair weather tech fans start scurrying out of the woodwork like roaches, where were you hiding the last 7 years.

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Mark Bradley,

I think you miss the point when you try to make this about conferences. The reason GT is behind Florida, Alabama and LSU is because everybody else in the country is too (at least Florida and Bama, most everybody is behind LSU). GT isn’t behind those programs because they reside in the SEC. It’s because those programs are historically predisposed to be good, because of tradition and excellent recruiting bases and they took it the extra step by adding the best head coaches in the game. Now I’d not say Les Miles is among the elite coaches, but he’s at least good enough to keep what Nick Saban built in Baton Rouge above water. Saban and Urban Meyer have elevated their programs to the top of the mountain. I’d like to think Paul Johnson is doing the same thing for GT. Hell, it’s only year two and we’re at #7 in the BCS and if not for the unusual season we’re having with 6 unbeaten teams in November, they’d be higher. Give Paul Johnson another season (with Nesbitt, Dwyer, Thomas, Burnett and DMorgan) and he’ll be beating Urban Meyer or Nick Saban for the national title.

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Pi$$onadawg. Of course you (as a fan) would like to play an SEC schedule. Duh!! It is the most competative and exciting brand of football in the country hands down. That’s what everyone’s be saying for the past several years (except for tech). Unfortunately for you and your tech bretheren, you get a steady dose of WF, Duke, Va and UNC when you’re not playing a D2 like Gardner Webb or Jax. State. It’s no wonder your school can only fill up about half the “crackerbox” with this kind of schedule. I understand your frustration and depression with that schedule, but unfortunatey for the tech fan, that’s what ya’ll are stuck with. I hear Bama is on the schedule in 2012 and of course UGA every other year, so that should give ya’ll some hope of being able to see a quality team come to town.

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dawgs 32 and 12 against tech since 1965

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A freind of mine at work put this comparison together, so I don’t want to take credit for it. but I think he does a good job of making the case for this year anyway.

If Tech played Georgia’s schedule it would result in the following (according to Sagarin’s predictor):
@ Ok St – 4 pt W
USCe – 14 pt W
@ Ark – 3 pt W
Ariz St – 16 pt W
LSU – 6 pt W
@ Tenn – 1 pt W
@ Vandy – 25 pt W (as seen this year)
Florida – 7 pt L
Tenn Tech – 45 pt W
Auburn – 12 pt W
Kentucky – 14 pt W
Georgia – 14 pt W (as you will see in a few weeks)

So Tech would be 7-1 and would finish 11-1 in the regular season if playing Georgia’s schedule.

By comparison, if Georgia played Tech’s schedule:
Jacksonville St – 11 pt W
Clemson – 6 pt L
@Miami – 10 pt L
UNC – 4 pt W
@Miss St – 4 pt L
@FSU – 5 pt L
VPI – 10 pt L
@UVA – 1 pt L
@Vandy – 9 pt W
Wake – 6 pt W
@Duke – 2 pt W
@Tech – 14 pt L

So Georgia would currently be 3-6 and would finish 5-7

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i think georgia beat vandy by 24…moron

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dogone

Dawgs are 0-1 against GT since Paul Johnson

Soon to be 0-2

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TT. In case you missed it, Mark Richt won 7 consecutive games against tech before suffering his first loss last year. Are all tech fans as clueless as you? I thought ya’ll were supposed to be a well educated lot.

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dawgs are 31 and 13 against tech since 1965, not 32 and 12

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To Ben Derover:

Yo, Athens just called me during class and said they are missing the village idiot. You should wake up from that ditch you passed out in and find your way back home.

To jdawg14:

What you obviously don’t understand (from your last comment) is that the term “2nd rate” appeals to more than winning football games. Yeah UGA has won a lot in recent seasons. They have also tried to steal the phrase “Criminoles” from Florida St. What kind of mindset does the coach instill on the players when they decide that they arent going to court just because they dont want to? Lack of discipline, lack of respect, arrest history, etc… is what makes UGA 2nd rate to GT as far as I can remember. Maybe UGA can invest in an NCAA football coach at the end of the year and fire this pop icon they have now.

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Georgia Tech 48, Duke 17. Count on it.

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Alabama did not smash VT. And the GT-LSU game is not an indicator. We had beaten UGA in Athens. That was our bowl game. Playing in a meaningless game after that meant nothing. Play LSU in the regular season, year in and year out, and Johnson would win more than Miles – you can take that to the bank. Just as he will versus Richt. For those UGA fans that STILL don’t see this or recognize this, you are not really smart college football fans.

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It’s not about 1 year mr hilarious. It’s about a coach. And we have a winner! He is only beginning. Open your eyes poor boy.

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yeah we have a winner…no way Georgia has any chance this year ..none….zilch..hang it up…..dawgs…..notta chance…go jackets

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hilariously funny:

Actually we defend with 4 times as many Nat’l titles as UGA, A Heisman memorial trophy named after our head coach, when we left the SEC we had more SEC titles than UGA (5 to 4), oh…

and fewer players arrested than UGA. Get some history schoolboy.

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This big talk is fun and all, but I say save it for Nov. 28th. One thing I’m thankful for is that at least we get to actually play the game rather than hypothesizing “what if” as it pretains to Tech and UGAg.

Dawgs, you have owned us, for certain. One game at a time is all I’m saying. We won last year in a close one. This year, without the talent (e.g. Stafford and Moreno), you pups have no chance. It’s gonna be “All The Way Turnt Up” in The Flats. Joe Cox may even start crying.

Personally, I can’t wait to see Dwyer and Nesbitt put some poor Dawg LB on his back. Oh, and tell your DBs, those crack blocks are BRUTAL!

Go Jackets!

To Hell With Georgia … see you punks on North Avenue.

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UGAissolastyear,

We rolled up 500 total yards to VTs 150. The only thing that kept them in the game was Bama miscues, penalties, turnovers, various mistakes. At the end of the game we were knocking on the door at the 12 13 yard line and we just ran out the clock. Had we needed to we could have put up another field goal or td and won by 13 or 17. It was a statistical asskicking session and the facts back it up.

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UGAIsSoLastYear.

“GT-LSU game is not an indicator. We had beaten UGA in Athens. That was our bowl game.”

Oh!! That would explain the team rings and “State Champion” t-shirts. Hmmmm. What will you guys come up with next?? I can hardly wait!

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What would Mark Bradley do at the Macon Telegraph would be the correct anology.

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I’d put Tech 3rd. I think they would hang with FL and BAMA. They just keep the ball for so much of the game that the opposing team has to make the most of their opportunities.

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Pi$$onaDawg.

“If someone has the time can you findout the Tech lifetime record against the SEC and the UGA lifetime record against the SEC? I am just wondering. WAIT lets make Tech and UGA lifetime records against Bama, Florida, Tenn, LSU, and Auburn nobody in the SEC really matters after these teams anyway.”

No idea where you’re heading with this one, but you sound desperate for something to try and make a meaningless point.

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Pi$$onadawg,

Lifetime Alabama holds a winning head to head record against everyone in the sec and against UGA its 36-25 and against Tech its 28-21. I do know that if you look up each individual team’s record in the acc against the sec every single one of them I think except Tech has a losing record against the Sec.

You can look it up at stassen.com and view a team’s head to head record against other teams and against other conferences. I just looked it up. Only takes a second. Tech has an alltime record of .51 against the sec with a 177-169 record.

One other acc team like FSU might have a winning record against the sec but of the 12 acc teams I do know for a fact that at least 9 or 10 of them have losing records against the sec.

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GT_Paula

November 11th, 2009
12:07 pm
Georgia Tech 48, Duke 17. Count on it.

You really think it will be that close. It is Duke!!

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I am the only one wondering where the hell the bama fan came from? Don’t you guys have your own newspapers/rivalries to deal with?

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Crimson Nation:

YOu need to add in the Southern Conference too (predecessor to the SEC) because GT was in that, as well as the SEC before joining the ACC.

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Gotta go and actually do some work but tonight I’ll look up each acc team’s record vs the sec and post it. Shouldn’t take but 5 minutes or so. I just looked up FSU vs the sec and alltime they are .40 winning % with a 44-66 record. I’ld be very surprised if there is anyone else in the acc that possibly has a winning record against the sec if FSU doesn’t. Possibly clemson given their dominance over S. carolina.

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HBTD – yes, and it’s Duke coached by David Cutcliff and that has a tremendous passer in Thadeus Lewis. They’ll keep it close the first half and then Tech will take over the possession arrow in the 2nd, wear down the defense and score 21+ unanswered …

… the UGAg game will go along the same lines, excepting the part about keeping it close in the first half.

UGA 3 GA Tech 51

Count it!

Go Jackets!

To Hell With Georgia!

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LSU last three ACC opponets LSU 38- GT 3 LSU 48 – VT 7 LSU 40 – Miami 3
or combined LSU 126 – ACC 13
Next years Chick kickoff at the dome LSU 48 – North Carolina 0

We love playing ACC teams bring them on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Before the season, Mark said Tech would be a better team than last year, but because of a demanding schedule, probably wouldn’t have as good a record. Now that they have exceeded his expectations, he implies that somehow the SEC has better talent but this just doesn’t hold up to fact. Colin Peek, a former yellow jacket starts for Alabama and many of the recruits of the 2007 class at Tech were pursued by many SEC teams like GA, ALA and Fl, not to mention last years class as well. Maybe we shouldn’t be comparing these teams based on so called recruiting experts who somehow manage to always get it wrong…look at UGA as evidence.

Maybe Tech is not as good as ALA or Fl this year, but I sure would like to find out. And, there is only one way to do this…playing on Saturday. I disagree on LSU. Tech is better than LSU this year…even a couple touchdowns better.

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If the so called #7 team in the land doesn’t have at least a 28 point half time lead against the Dukies, they’re obviously not as good as many people think. The 31 – 28 trailing a couple of weeks ago to Vandy and then the OT game with WF have already killed you guys nationally. There’s a lot of curiosity with Pee Jay’s tricked up offense that 90% of the Ga HS run, but there’s no respect for the program as a whole.

As far as your UGA prediction goes. I’ll take the 48 points and bet the farm? Something tells me that it might be a “little” closer than that.

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The reason for Yech’s success this year is simple. The combined Win/Loss record for every team they have beaten this year is 43-39. Four games above .500, not to mention the 5 ACC teams that are currently under .500.

You’re welcome

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Tech fans and Liberals are both cut from the same cloth. Disillusioned quacks that wouldn’t know a good thing if it jumped up and bit them in the arse. Maybe that’s why Tech produced the worst President in our nation’s history.

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As a die-hard Tech fan, I think Bradley has it just about right. I sure would like to see Tech play either Florida or Alabama in the NC game, but the top three SEC teams just have size and speed that make it difficult for most other teams (Tech or otherwise) to be able to compete with them.

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i know we have a bad losing record against Georgia..but thats not my point

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Ryan

November 11th, 2009
12:46 am
I really think that we would beat Florida or Alabama if we were given the chance. This is the most explosive team since 1998-99. Florida and Alabama might have better defenses but thats about it. Ive watched LSU play this year and they struggled during some games also. All these teams I believe are very close together. Its too bad we dont have a playoff system where we can truly find out whos better.

THE HELL WITH GEORGIA!

GO JACKETS!

Can you hook me up with some of the stuff you are on ????
Tech would not put up 14 points on Fla are Bama yes you guys have a good team this year but dont get to crazy there Jackets

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we should have beat ya’ll more we just got bad breaks and bad calls…..

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Current ACC title tally.

Clemson: 13
FSU:12
Maryland: 9
Duke: 7
NC State: 7
NC: 5
Va. Tech: 3
Wake: 2
VA: 2

And the mighty YellowJackets come in with a whooping 1 and half. The half being in 1998 when they were caught cheating. Even South Carolina has one ACC title. Pathetic.

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Pi$$onaDawg. You seem to like numbers. Here’s series of numbers for you think about. 59-39-5!! Go Dawgs!!

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tech grads ..you have nerve calling us that…call us geniuses…………!!!! which is what we are …..and superior to every football program in the country…

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ACC, i thought s carolina was in the sec??

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pee on a dawg guy is a total dork…makes you techies look bad

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ACC. Good point, but see a loyal tech fan’s reasoning behind lack of titles.

pi$$onadawg

November 11th, 2009
12:50 pm
we should have beat ya’ll more we just got bad breaks and bad calls

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pi$$onaDawg drop using my name and get your own. I don’t need your help or wnat it. The ACJ really needs to figureout how to protect the posting names.

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but ACC, do you have a water girl??

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Uh oh!!! Willie’s a youngster!!! SC was in ACC for years before being an independent and then joining the SEC in the 90’s. You should go to class now and make your parents proud. Run along now.

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only reason this tool combined the records is because he knows UGA has been competitive with UT, LSU, Florida, Auburn over years, save Bama.

vs. Auburn – UGA is 2 victories away from evening it up
vs. Florida – UGA is still up by 7 victories
vs. LSU – - UGA is 3 victories away from evening it up
vs. UT – UGA if 5 victories away from evening it up
vs. Bama – UGA is down by 11 victories

As Pi$$onaBee said, you’re a loser.

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hey willie wonka: what a coincidence: i havent used the words nerdo dork since i was elementary school. nap time .

best, willie

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