Another black day in Jax reveals UGA as second-rate
One is hunting a third BCS title; the other isn't bowl-eligible. (AJC photo by Brant Sanderlin)
Jacksonville — The game was a total loss, but the lesson imparted need not be. After yet another lost Saturday in Duval County, this much is beyond dispute: Georgia is no longer a major player in its division, let alone the nation.
Mark Richt began his somber media briefing by saying, “Well, here we are again.” And there they were, lopsided losers. It was 49-10 last season and 41-17 this time, and for all the good work Richt did in the early part of this decade, he and his program have been lapped by Urban Meyer. And Richt, once so clever and driven, seems to have run out of ideas.
He tried the color-scheme gimmick Saturday, presenting his players with black helmets after they’d warmed up in the usual red headgear. The upshot of this was to make Georgia look like an Arena league team and to cow the nation’s No. 1 team not one whit. After 11 1/2 minutes, the guys in the orange hats led the guys in the black hats 14-0.
“It’s not the helmet,” safety Reshad Jones said. “It’s what inside the helmet.”
Well, yes. With an extra week to prepare, Willie Martinez seemed even more witless than usual. As bad as the Gators’ first two touchdowns were, the third was an affront to everything Red and Black. Facing third-and-3 at the Georgia 23 with 1:32 left in the half, Florida ran a simple option. Tim Tebow faked a handoff and burst up the middle. He scored the touchdown that put him ahead of the hallowed Herschel Walker without being touched.
“They’re a good team,” said defensive end Justin Houston. “But it seemed like every time we made a bad play, they capitalized on it.”
In the first half Georgia had eight penalties. In the second it had four interceptions. If it was to have any chance against the Gators, it had to play a clean game. Instead it authored another in a series of messes.
If we’re to believe recruiting rankings, the gulf between Georgia and Florida shouldn’t be so pronounced. But Saturday was another installment of men against boys, and it called to mind the barb Steve Spurrier sunk into Ray Goff in this stadium 18 years ago: “Georgia gets all these players — I don’t know what happens to them.”
Players go to Florida and get, to invoke another Spurrier-ism, coached up. Players come to Georgia and are left to their own devices. Martinez is a substandard defensive coordinator, and no other position coach can be said to have done fabulous work. (Unless you count Kevin Butler, who isn’t a coach but who did sire the prodigious punter Drew Butler.)
Said Richt: “We’re 4-4 this season. I don’t think it’s an indictment of the program. I think it’s an indictment of where we are this year.”
Except Georgia has underachieved three times in the past four seasons, and as Richt himself noted Saturday: “There’s no guarantee of a bowl. The question is, will we play a game when we don’t do something that hinders us from being the best we can be?”
The Bulldogs have never lost more than four games under Richt, but they’ve never been 4-4 under this coach, either. Regarding possible changes, he said: “It’s not good to make decisions within minutes of an emotional game. You’ve got to settle your mind and settle your spirit, and then see where you are.”
As darkness fell on Halloween 2009, Georgia was again where it has been too often. The program that has all the resources was left to wonder why it has fallen so far behind Florida. And the ugly truth has never been more apparent: Florida might or might not have better players, but it absolutely has better coaches.
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Lousy Dawgs
November 1st, 2009
12:38 pm
With an off week to prepare, all Richt can come up with is a bush league motivational gimmick??
Richt won while UF and Bama were struggling. Now that both programs are back at full strength, UGA is an afterthought in the SEC.
kicking a dawg when he's down
November 1st, 2009
12:39 pm
interesting to see all of our fans kicking a man when he is down and all the would be sunday morning qb’s, like ya’ll could do better in our coaches shoes, more to it than the average fan sees, and MARK BRADLEY has never liked georgia yet you listen to this idiot, shame on ya dawg fans
WildBill
November 1st, 2009
12:46 pm
CMR is not concerned. He has his contract. A third tier has been created in the SEC with the dawgs already mired in it. The dawg nation is coming to grips with the new reality, and DO NOT LIKE IT. Its gonna take some strong medicine to right this sinking ship, and I don’t expect anyone in the UGA hierarchy has the guts to do it. IF I had been at the game, I would have left early too.
Actinide
November 1st, 2009
1:00 pm
I guess the AJC needs to do something to keep readers, and that’s to go into the “tear them down” part of the old “build ‘em up, tear ‘em down” cycle. Five years ago, Mark Bradley couldn’t saint Mark Richt fast enough, now he’s ridiculing him as second-rate. The truth, as always, is somewhere in the middle — but not to be found in this blog, or this “newspaper.” (Does the AJC bother to print a physical edition anymore?)
HobNail Boot Backatcha
November 1st, 2009
1:00 pm
Its not like the dawgs missed a two foot putt. Yeah, they stank yesterday, but they’ve got 4 winnable games left and the coaches need to focus on getting the players that want to play on the field and ready.
I look at my Vols and see progress. Was I happy at the start of the year – hell no. But they are moving forward and the dawgs need understand it is one game at a time.
collegeballfan
November 1st, 2009
1:01 pm
Yeah the helmet gimmick was a surprise. ( Same at Tennessee last night with the jerseys. ) You win in football with blocking & tackling. I really thought that with a week off UGA would put together the running game they so desperately need & be in position to win the game. But I was dead wrong.
And the team does seem undisciplined. And some of the fouls were clearly the result of an attitude of “ME”. But that could be the result of who is recruited as opposed to lack of effort by coaches. Recruit the players that fit your system, offense, defense & off the field, and discipline should take care of itself.
The Ghost of Ray Goof
November 1st, 2009
1:02 pm
UF benefits from a weak schedule. If they had any guts, they’d drop UGA and replace them with a competitive opponent.
Guys.... believe me.....
November 1st, 2009
1:04 pm
When it’s all on the line, Coach Richt and F-150 will get the job done!
Macon Knight
November 1st, 2009
1:07 pm
This time you can’t blame CWM’s defense. the defense played well. the offense is what stinks JOE COX IS TERRIBLE HE NEEDS TO BE BENCHED GIVEN HIS DEGREE AND TOLD TO GET OUT OF ATHENS BEFORE THE SUN GOES DOWN! we were only down 24-10 to start the 3rd qtr, but the get batted in the air and all cox does is stand there and lets the fl guy catch the ball, if we could have scored the game would have been different 24-17, if it’s 3rd and 1 why would you line up in a power set and throw to a full back to get 1 yard… it looks like bobo had no confidence in the o-line to give the ball to ealey to get the first down, there were some terrible play calls is this game, also we didnt throw the ball deep one time in this game . the whole game plan sucked. outplayed and out coached again. these coaches need to be held accountable.
pb
November 1st, 2009
1:17 pm
To Old School Dawg:
As I said yesterday, I will admit now that FLA is the better team, by alot! Dawgs were nowhere near team FLA is. Pitiful game- penalties, turnovers, lack of execution,etc. that unfortunatley GA keeps doing this season. UGA has some serious problems that start at the top. Maybe not fire Richt, but Bobo and Martinez have got to go.
Richt Lover
November 1st, 2009
1:23 pm
I love Mark Richt and think he is the best thing to happen to UGA football since Ray Goff. He just needs some time to get his kind of players and his system installed and we’ll be seeing SEC and National Championships every year! We need to get behind CMR and his staff and just accept the fact that the Gators own us and that we suck. Then we can be happy each week instead of sad.
Keeping it real
November 1st, 2009
1:41 pm
I saw a rumor on ESPN.com. Mark Richt out, Charley Strong in.
techengineer
November 1st, 2009
1:51 pm
My 2 cents as a life long Tech fan and someone who pulls for UGA. Richt brought a lot of this on himself. Their D has been sub par every since the parting of VanGorder and the Offense has underperformed ever since Richt gave up the play calling duties. This was more than apparent last season. As a matter of fact the Coaching shortcomings were glaringly bad and Richt chose to stand by his coaches. Now I like Richt a lot but this isn’t about Richt, it’s about UGA and his decision showed a lack of respect/appreciation for the Bulldawg nation. In my book he gets one more chance. Major coaching staff changes must be made and after next year if there is no “improvement” in coaching then I would be willing to officially place Richt on the hot seat! But Richt is too good of a man and too classsy to give up on now…
cmm
November 1st, 2009
1:56 pm
UGA looked ridiculous in those uniforms. I’m not sure who thought they looked good, but they were wrong. It is bad enough we have looked so bad with our playing ability now we have to look at all the pictures of the ugly uniforms. We looked like something out of Any Given Sunday. This is not Georgia football. What has happened??
Weather Channel
November 1st, 2009
2:08 pm
Bundle up, Dawg fans. I hear that Shreveport can be mighty cold in December.
LAKE OCONEE DAWG
November 1st, 2009
2:16 pm
BILLY GOAT:
WHEN TEBOW GOT HURT, DAWGS GOT THAT A$$, OR HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN…YES, HE PLAYED BUT HAD A BAD SHOULDER..WITH TEBOW HURT, YOU GUYS GOT BEAT..KNOW YOU HAVEN’T FORGOTTEN THE END ZONE CELEBRATION… YOUR OFFENSE WINS THE GAMES, OR MAYBE YOU HAVEN’T FIGURED THAT OUT YET…#51, THE ONE WITH THE BAD GROIN FOR THE PAST MONTH, GOT HIS HELMET KNOCKED OFF ABOUT 3 TIMES YESTERDAY…AS THEY SAY IN THE BUSINESS, THEY “POPPED HIS TOP”. WAIT FOR THE BAMA BOYS, SEE HOW MUCH TALKING YOU DO THEN…GEORGIA RAN THE BALL BETTER AGAINST FLORIDA THAN THEY HAVE ANYONE ALL YEAR, AND WE ARE RUNNING A TRUE FRESHMAN UP IN THERE….YOU CAN’T WIN WITHOUT TEBOW, JUST LIKE TECH CAN’T WIN WITHOUT NESBITT AND THE BIG NFL FULLBACK….
Gator in the Hootch
November 1st, 2009
2:28 pm
Don’t worry Dawg fans. There’s always the upcoming recruiting season where once again the Dawgs will beat the Gators in the recruiting war. Then the “we’re the champions on the world” posts will yet begin again until yet again the Gators “smarsh” your “arshes” once again on the football field where winning the war only matters. 17 out of 20 and soon to be 18 out of 21. But who’s counting anymore!!!! AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN.
P.S…Hey Orson, did you ask Meyer at mid field after the game if you could change your mind and come to the U of F on second thought. Just imagine…Brantley to Charles…and what could have been. BAD DECISION YOUNG MAN!!!!!
Gator in the Hootch
November 1st, 2009
2:31 pm
LAKE OCONEE…just win 17 out of the last times both with and without Tebow. I think the Gators will do just fine next year too. NOW, GO BACK TO DAWG DREAMLAND.
Doglover
November 1st, 2009
2:35 pm
We got beat in Jaxonville Saturday but we be rebuilding this year. We got great coaches and players and need to keep showing suport for the boys and quit compllaning about every mistake we be making. Remember that our boys are getting a great education and they will make good jobs. Go Dogs Class of 2002!
ladawg100
November 1st, 2009
2:38 pm
Maybe FSU will buy out Jimbo Fisher and offer CMR Bobby’s job and we won’t have to fire him.
Then we can go get Tubberville!!!
Big Harry Dawg
November 1st, 2009
2:42 pm
Richt is wrong, as usual, this IS an indictment of the program that he doesn’t seem to be running. There doesn’t seem to be any passion in him…maybe he should just quit and become a preacher.
You suck Richt and so does your cut-buddy Martinez.
Whitfield County Dawg
November 1st, 2009
2:56 pm
As a Dawg fan, I concede. Hats off to Florida. They beat a UGA team that had no clue on defense, Kept playing a quarterback that likes throwing interceptions and continued to racked penalties. At this point, I would like to say that Florida was the better team, but if you analyze the game for what it was, UGA gift wrapped the game for florida. Florida took advantage of everything given to them. So all you other dawg fans out there, don’t be mad at a team that was doing everything that is was suppose to do.
Did anyone expect Florida to not intercept those passes thrown right at them. Did you not expect Tebow to run the ball. Florida was doing everything they were coached to do. Whereas, UGA was doing the exact opposite of was the were coached to do. Let’s not play that record again.
Again, Hats off to Florida. Enjoy it because after you lose to Alabama in the SEC Championship and win whatever bowl game you go to, (I say that because I don’t think UF is going to the NC game), Tebow, Spikes and the rest of of the seniors on this team are gone. Then FL will understand what it feels like to go through what UGA is going through.
Good luck UF. HAHAHAHAHA
Damon Evans
November 1st, 2009
2:59 pm
To Coach Richt:
In order to take some of the heat off our embarrassment, why not suggest to the illiterate fan base, that they complain about Spikes. It does not seem to have worked when we suggested that they brag about academics; all the mispelling and grammar hacking seems to show they do not honor academics.
Keep up the good face.
Damon
PS: I have your back — unless I can find a minority coach to help my reputation.
Cautiously Optimistic
November 1st, 2009
2:59 pm
All I’ve heard from Gator fans is how bad our team is and now after reading some blogs on Fox Sports, they are complaining that this win isn’t getting them the respect they deserve………WTH? You caint have it both ways. In my opinion none of the top ranked teams have looked superior. As bad as our D has been UF didn’t put up that great of numbers on them, the big difference was UGA’s penalties and turn overs. Yes UF did take advantage of them and that is what great teams do but if you take them out of the game the 2 teams actually matched up fairly even, look at the stats. If you ask me, I think UF’s soft schedule is holding them back. At least if we had the teams that we’ve had in the past few years that would have helped UF’s strenght of schedule.
flatwoods
November 1st, 2009
3:00 pm
Were the black helments in honor of obama, what an ugly site at the school I love.
King Gator
November 1st, 2009
3:01 pm
Black helmets, black pants, red jerseys, etc .. the only way the Dawgs will win vs. Florida is if they come out in Orange and Blue. It was nice to see Tim Tebow came as Tim Tebow for Halloween and of course Georgia came as Georgia. 2nd most penalized team in the NCAA, it’s not like they can afford to give away yardage or field position. Gators will have earned 3 NC’s in 4 Years! CMR to FSU, the Dawgs will be worse off and deserve it. Go Gators! OWNED AGAIN Dawgs!!
King Gator
November 1st, 2009
3:03 pm
Hey did Joe Cox just throw another INT?? See you next year in Jax Dawgs!
ClinchPanther
November 1st, 2009
3:03 pm
unlike Mark Bradley, Mark Richt is still a class act. The program is hurting now and can be repaired in time. however nothing can be done to help Mark Bradley become a journalist.
King Gator
November 1st, 2009
3:10 pm
Vandy, SC, FAU?, FSU … then Bama in the ATL… TX in the BCS Championship game.. going to be a fun couple of months for the Gators and thier fans. Good luck to the Dawgs in the Motor City Bowl in Detroit.
charles
November 1st, 2009
3:16 pm
Dawgfan23-it’s guys like you who are responsible for the generally mediocre football program we’ve had for the past 25 years. It doesn’t matter what Richt did early on because schools like UF and UA upped the ante by hiring great coaches. I don’t want to just accept mediocrity and Florida is leaving us further in the dust.
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Cautiously Optimistic
November 1st, 2009
3:27 pm
Fun? Beating up on Vandy, FAU and FSU? OK then dont start complaining about not getting enough respect from the rankings with that SOFT schedule. Maybe SC can get you a little, but you are going to have to beat Bama and I’m not convinced ya’ll can.
monty
November 1st, 2009
3:31 pm
To whoever said the defense played well, You are nuts!. We stopped Fla on “one” play in the 1st quarter. A run up the middle for no gain. Outside of their receiver dropping a wide open TD pass they stopped themselves. We had no answer for their offense. We couldn’t stop Tebow on 3rd down evryone knew he was going to run but we bit on the simple fake every time.Yes the offense made it worse but they still score 30 on us even without the interceptions. Is that where we are in this program under CWM that if the other team’s offense scores less than 35 (on their own) we did something good on D? LOL!
kg
November 1st, 2009
3:47 pm
Right now as a UGA fan, yesterday’s game is very disheartening. It is one thing to lose the game by a play or two, but yesterday I saw too many instances that the team has totally clocked out. As I have read many of the opinions expressed in this blog, I wondered aloud about whether CMR should be replaced or not. If you examine the entire body of work duting his tenure, there has been too many games that we were favored in but yet we still lost.The only teams coached under him that actually reached their potential both won the SEC championships. Yet for the lack of motivation, that team lost to WVU in a blowout fashion. Why? Because they we’re coached up not down. Most of the teams we play now are simply more hungry than we are. Hunger, desire and motivation are supposed to come from the top down. For that anyone who has suggested that Richt be removed is fair in their evaluation. However wih that being said….. it is time for some change. There are several DC who love the opportunity to turn this defense around. Although Will Muschamp, Kirby Smart, Bill Young, may not leave their current positions, it would do miracles for us to have someone new in the position. I would even inquire of Charlie Strong availability for the program.Leadin another defense into greater potential could be the move that allows him to finally become a HC in this league, if not elsewhere. As far as the offensive woes go, I wouldn’t strip the red-shirt of Murray or Mettenburger but with Logan Gray, see if he has the potetntial to be elite level SEC QB. When I saw Logan Gray, I have always seen him cut from the cloth of a Colt McCoy, Chase Daniel, Reesing type of QB. If Logan Gray is unable to run CMR’s pro set then allow his skillset to come to the forefront. He was a very dynamic QB in HS who also brought in hi sHS teammate in Aron White. Let’s hope that for the future we see more opportunities of Aron Murray to Orson Charles! They also came from the same program in Florida and many experts had Orson Charles ranked higher in his class than Aron White but both were considered Top 30 talent. In closing, CMR does deserve another 2 years. Why? Because if he does make the wholesale changes that we are all discussing, next year will still be a year of transition. Now if those changes do not bring results, then those that empowered are left to make some tough decisions. But let’s also not forget that those in the ocaching fraternity with CMR who started around the dame are also struggling. From Senator Tressel, Bob Stoops and Pete Carroll who have also had similar results with recruiting, have all fallen on hard tmes this year. The reality is that football games are not played in Feburary but rather through September to December.
georgiagirl
November 1st, 2009
3:55 pm
All these other fans running their mouths, I guess your team never had a bad year. And Mark when Georgia is good you are on the bandwagon.
Still a Dawg fan and I will never pull for the Gator so GO BAMA.
What are you Gator fans going to do after ST Tebow and the 11 starters on Defense are gone cry, because Tebow was the team.
Yellow Fuzz
November 1st, 2009
4:05 pm
This just in. New AP Poll
1 Florida (38) 8-0 1448
2 Texas (13) 8-0 1408
3 Alabama (8) 8-0 1390
4 Cincinnati 8-0 1212
5 Boise State 8-0 1211
6 TCU 8-0 1147
7 Oregon 7-1 1130
8 Iowa 9-0 1127
9 LSU 7-1 1036
10 Georgia Tech 8-1 949
Brooking 56
November 1st, 2009
4:12 pm
Told you, suckers!!!!!
georgiagirl
November 1st, 2009
4:23 pm
Just watched the video of Brandon Spikes trying to put out the eyes of Washun.
He is the lowest form of a human, if winning means that you have to try and putt someone eyes.
Brandon Spikes is a THUG OF ALL THUGS LOW LIVE THUG.
georgiagirl
November 1st, 2009
4:27 pm
No one should play a game to try and take someone sight away. Everything goes around comes around and God will give it back to him 10 times Sorry for the mistake in the other blog
Cautiously Optimistic
November 1st, 2009
4:39 pm
Ga girl, I remeber UF when Zook was there crying like babies calling for his head. Especially after losing to us.
ms. shirley
November 1st, 2009
4:59 pm
UGA fans better come to terms with the fact that AJ Green will leave early for NFL (when he’s eligible). I would if I were him. Bulldogs stink this year and it’s unlikely they’ll improve next year. They’ve regressed since Van Gorder left and Mark Richt is too much like Bobby Cox when it comes to loyalty to players and coaches. A true leader would remove the weak link and replace it with someone who can get it done. (and Richt won’t do this)
Marietta Dawg
November 1st, 2009
5:01 pm
Yesterday was awful, but it is embarassing to read some of these comments. Grammar school level english and spelling is in order for many of you. Candy CANE socks and/or endzone, you moron.
King Gator
November 1st, 2009
5:02 pm
Ironically, Zook was 2-1 against Georgia; Urban is now 3-1, with a solid chance at a 3rd NC in 4 years. Why does everyone think Bama is going beat Florida .. I know Dawg fans are hoping for that, but can’t really think it. Basically the same Gator team beat Bama last year (Harvin didn’t play in the SEC Championship Game v. Bama) Bama has a 1st year qb this year, unlike last year they had a Sr. They also lost stud OLmen and DLmen. Will probably be a tight game, I’m guessing Florida will be favored and most likely win. A good D beats an inexperienced QB most of the time. Plus the Gators can actually make a fg (sorry Vols) and of course Timmy T won’t let’m lose again. Go Gators! Next year will be alot tougher, but the Gators keep reloading with 4/5 star recruits and actually know how to motivate’m and coach’m up. Truth hurts, but it’s still the truth.
G8TR
November 1st, 2009
5:12 pm
Cautiously: Richt beat Zook the week after he was fired already. Otherwise, he won 2 against Richt. Sorry about that fact. As for Richt, he was competitive in the SEC East during the Zook reign and during the twilight of Phil Fulmer’s career. Now, um, not so much.
HairyDawg
November 1st, 2009
6:12 pm
Most of our UGA is disgustring to mes and know not a dang thing of football playing.
Every bodies is complaining about Richt not showing emotions and then peoples dumps on him for uses black uniforms to hypes team. You scum bag fans cant haves it both ways. Get behind the coaches who is Christians and loves UGA or get losts.
It should be oblivous to all of us that we aint got good players this years after losing early to NFL drafting. The big problem we all know is been that Adams and Evans want be supporters coaches by running sorryest players out of towns to replace thems with SEC’s level players for NFL. Adams and Evans is trying to hide and defect blame to keep cushy jobs while avoiding the critisims. They got to man up and get rids of the stinky players and the academicamans that holding us back from beating committed teams likes Bama. If they cant manup to do it then they deserve blames for getting themselving fired.
Falcon Fan
November 1st, 2009
6:42 pm
Went to firemarkricht.com to be nosey. Pleased to see that it was not encouraging his firing. Would like to see Mark get a little more aggressive. I really believe you can be a Christian and still be firm and a winner. Lou Holtz, Bobby Bowden, and Bill Curry are good examples. Who was our defensive coordinator 2 years ago when we terrorized Colt Brennen in the Sugar Bowl?
Carl Spackler
November 1st, 2009
6:47 pm
There are 4 games left, this is more than enough to provide playing time to a QB for next year…if this does not happen, then the AD needs to take the keys away from CMR and send him packing…this is the worst run team at a major level that I have ever seen…you homers who kept spouting off about that if you never did this, or if you never did that, or if you didn’t graduate from UGA BS, well look where it has led you…what an embarrassment…CMR should be made to stand up in front the cameras and apologize to Joe Cox for putting him in such a position, then apologize to these seniors who have busted their butts for 4/5 years, and finally to the DAWG Nation for putting such a second rate product out on the field, then to close out he should submit his resignation…if he remains it will take years for someone to undo what he has done this year…hope to get some top flight recruits, well take what you can get and hope that you can hold onto the players you have…how can Tennessee be on the rise w/ the team they have (and will have), while Saint Mark’s 10 win a season mantra is taking the biggest nose dive of any major program…Cox for the good of the team, fake an injury and let Murray take over
Falcon Fan
November 1st, 2009
6:49 pm
YELLOW FUZZ… one ACC team in Top 10! Go All Cupcake Conference (ACC). Amazing how Tech fans come out of the closet during the winning years. You all are as disgusting as the bandwagon Dawg fans.
Whatever
November 1st, 2009
7:00 pm
Whatever falcon fan…..Your just pissed because UGA is not even in the top 50. Tech is having a good season. Yea we know Tech doesn’t have a good defense but at least we can make adjustments and be competitive and win our games.
Falcon Fan
November 1st, 2009
7:05 pm
WHATEVER, I am not p’d at all. I am just tired of arrogant Tech fans carrying on like they have some storied program with rich history. I happen to be a very educated female graduate from Brenau University; and I happen to know a little bit about football. So don’t put me in that raunchy category with bandwagon Dawg fans!