UGA fans, what’s an acceptable result in Jacksonville?

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Is it possible to lose to the hated Gators and still feel good? (AJC photo by Pouya Dianat)

Georgia heads to Jacksonville unranked, which it almost never is, and a two-touchdown underdog, which it never is. It will be met by a team that hasn’t lost since September 2008, a team tracking a second consecutive BCS title. (Know how many schools have won consecutive BCS titles? None.)

Put simply, Georgia is up against it in a way unaccustomed to Georgia teams under Mark Richt. It lost to Florida 49-10 a year ago in what seemed a coin-flip game going in. This one is no coin flip. This outcome seems foregone.

But hope springs eternal in the breast of every fan, and on the day before Halloween I want to ask Dawg fans this question: What would you deem an acceptable outcome Saturday?

A narrow and honorable loss? (Within a touchdown, say.) Or is actual victory the only satisfactory result? And here’s a twist: If beating Florida convinces Mark Richt he doesn’t need to make changes within his program, would you rather Georgia lose? Or would beating the Gators when they’re ranked No. 1 be worth another year of Willie Martinez?

I’d put up a poll, but I don’t think the parameters of a poll are broad enough. I’m interested in your thoughts. So rather that click on “yes” or “no,” I invite you denizens of Bulldog Nation to avail yourselves of the white comment box below. And I thank you in advance. And you’ll hear from me again Saturday afternoon from you-know-where.

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Saint Simons

October 30th, 2009
1:07 am

45 – 42 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahhahahahahahahahahaha

Dawglover

October 30th, 2009
1:11 am

I hope we can stay wihin a TD in the 4th quater and only lose by 10-12 points in a fairly low scoring game say 24-14 hators

Mark Bradley

October 30th, 2009
1:12 am

I said it in a comment after an earlier post: I believe this will either be 48-7 or 24-20. But either way I think Florida wins. I just don’t think Georgia is good enough this time.

BugKiller

October 30th, 2009
1:13 am

it’s like with Dallas fans right now who know Wade Phillips will NEVER lead them to anything.

You know, the REALISTIC Dallas fans, and not the crazy ones. The ones who know that with every win Wade has in the regular season, pushing his team close to a Wild Card, the more their meddling owner will preen like the plastic surgery peacock he is and say, “I was right, Wade IS the right guy to coach my team!”

Yes, in this analogy, Mark Richt = Jerruh Jones.

Does ANYONE out there want Mark Richt to be able to point to THIS game as the reason he refuses to fire Martinez? Even though we’re gonna get stomped by Tech anyway?

This win would allow for a stomped by Tech or a lose to Auburn situation and still allow Willie to keep his job.

But, in the end, it’s all moot anyway.

We’re talking Willie Marinez, people!

The man Erik Ainge and John Parker Wilson owe their NFL careers, whatever they amount to, to.

The man, when given two weeks to plan for Tech, didn’t do what any intelligent coach would have done (introduced a 3-4 and 46 package into his defense to counter act all the running backs).

Martinez will seal his own doom, so I don’t have to do as Dallas
fans or Redskin fans or Cleveland fans are doing, and root AGAINST my team.

But God help us if we actually win.

Mark Bradley

October 30th, 2009
1:13 am

Then again, I’ve been wrong a time or two. I was sure Georgia would win last season.

Ed

October 30th, 2009
1:14 am

Acceptable result: a Georgia win or loss where the team fights from starts to finish and doesn’t fold like a wet blanket at the first sign of adversity. We’ve seen way too much of that in recent years against several teams (Tennessee being the most inexplicable). Just play Florida the same way LSU, Arkansas and Miss. St. did in recent weeks, and win or lose I’ll be proud of the Dawgs.

drbasic1

October 30th, 2009
1:16 am

Mark, a victory is needed period. I would THINK Coach Richt would look at the entire season to evaluate his staff (so they are called). I think a moral victory to the fans would be a close loss, but to the team, just another loss and no moral victory at all. I am no blind homer, but the history of this game means the record, nor better team on paper WILL win. An example of such….last year “USC vs stanford…..Rivalry means just that. The up side says GA-17 FL-10. The down side says FL-35 Ga- 3. I would not bet either way. The moral victory says FL-24 GA-17

uga-brave

October 30th, 2009
1:17 am

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BugKiller

October 30th, 2009
1:21 am

BTW, Mark… being that i’ve been suffering from insomnia for about 2 months, I LIVE for your 0100 blog post.

It, and The History Channel, help to fill my late night early-morning hours with some kind of enjoyment.

Well done, Sir. Huzzah!

Trintion Sturdivant's ACL

October 30th, 2009
1:21 am

An acceptable loss will show improvement on both sides of the ball, heart, fire and leadership. Only glimpses of each have been seen in any game this season, and never all at once. If we make Tebow look like the Heisman player he once was, after what teams like Miss State and Arky did to him, then Willy is gone. If we lose, Willy may only be demoted if CMR doesn’t want him gone. A win will not assure holding the DC title another year. Dominate the rest of the season defensively, then we have a problem with Willy.

But nothing we have done for two years now makes me believe we will play consistently during this game, nor in the future games. I used to believe in the old adage that “Any given Saturday, any team can win.” Heck, it happened last year vs Tech when we rolled up more than 500yds of offense including 400yds passing, 42 points and Tech still won. Blind squirrels seem to live a long time, especially in St. Simons. But I am Pessimist Pete for this game. I fully expect our D to look flummoxed at times, and Rennie Curran, all 205 lbs of him, sweating to make every tackle because there is no one else doing it. Where would we be without the mighty mite?

So I will take a steady improvement. Do what Arky and Missy State did, hold them to barely 20+ points. Score a couple of touchdowns in real football time (not in the last 5 minutes of a meaningless game). Make Tebow work for it, not let him have a day where he looks like a Garcia, Crompton or Mallett against us. For once, beat the Vegas line in a big game. It won’t be a moral victory, but at least if we have some passion and heart, it will mean I won’t automatically write us off for the rest of the games.

uga-brave

October 30th, 2009
1:24 am

mark,

i watched joe cox’s bad arm and zero pocktet presense at G DAY.

was suprised about the arkansas game.

saw the bad throw against south carolina.

the throw against lsu was all aj green.

he will throw at least two picks against the gators.

cant throw the square out.

bobo knows this. he is crippled.

uga-brave

October 30th, 2009
1:27 am

if we could run the football it might be different.

cox has no ability to get outside the pocket and throw the ball.

Dawg4EVER

October 30th, 2009
1:34 am

I only hope I did not spend $900 to watch us fold like a Walmart $2 lawn chair in the frigging 3rd quarter. Can we play 60 minutes and lose by late score from (i hope to hexk he graduates soon) Tebow

Mark Bradley

October 30th, 2009
1:35 am

Bugkiller, I don’t know if you cable system carries ALN — the American Life Network — but “Mission: Impossible” airs every night at 1 a.m.

Dawg4EVER

October 30th, 2009
1:38 am

Mark,
You crack me up—-Can we stay close—-really??

UGATODAY

October 30th, 2009
1:42 am

It is a new day—Bulldogs 24–UF–21—–
Mark—-this will NOT be a Mission Impossible.

If we can keepthem out of JAIL and get them to the cocktail party—they can make it happen—-GO DOGS

uga-brave

October 30th, 2009
1:46 am

mark, i love DOB, dave obrien. he invented this on the ajc.

so please run the numbers. 194 points.

worst in the sec.

how is that possible?

five stars everywhere.

UGATODAY

October 30th, 2009
1:50 am

we will get our proverbial “heads handed to us” i say 38-3

BugKiller

October 30th, 2009
1:51 am

Which Mission Impossible?

Seeing as I’m just south of 30, I know there’s been more than a few iterations.

There’s the ones with Martin Landau. The ones with Leonard Nimoy. And then the ones I remember from the 80s with Phil Morris, who’s far more famous as his character from Seinfeld, the super-lawyer, Jackie Chiles.

And I know this show predates me by about 20 years, but I caught it on DVD an it’s outsanding: The Prisoner.

Top notch paranoid spy stuff right there.

Mark Bradley

October 30th, 2009
1:57 am

The old ones. The Martin Landau/Barbara Bain ones. (Although there are some Leonard Nimoy and Lynda Day George episodes, too.)

georgia74

October 30th, 2009
1:57 am

I just hope we don’t fold like a 2 DOLLAR lawn chair from Walmart during the middle of the 3rd quarter.

I SPENT $930 to get to the largest coacltail party on earth and I really think Richt’s convicts will get crushed 52-0.

Go Red and Black—–but we have got to get rid of Richt—-he has provided zero discipline to this team–penalties, arrests and losses tell me he is no Spurrier, meyer or saban—–hell the lunatic in Arkanses does not embarrass that state like Richt does to us.

I AM DONE WITH HIM

Palm City Dawg

October 30th, 2009
2:12 am

Moved here to South Florida from Marietta 25 years ago and year in and year out it has been too painful to take yet another year in losing to the gators. I want Kirby regardless of the outcome of this game, even if we run the table. How can any DAWG stand to watch a team like the vols take us down and expose a week defensive game plam. And man, please keep Bryan Evans in the locker room and keep Rambo and Brandon Smith on the field. ARRRRGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Coach Willie has to go. We need a coaches that can kick some butt and get this team fired up.

BugKiller

October 30th, 2009
2:20 am

I’ve seen those before, but I don’t think Charter (which is all you can get in Athens) has that channel.

Lots of History HD. Lot’s of SportsCenter, which changes now to an L.A. crew at 0200. Didn’t know they did that.

Right now, there’s a Michael Jackson music video retrospective on Fuse HD.

Yep.

uga-brave

October 30th, 2009
2:20 am

defense stinks.

cant run the football.

so how can we win this game?

hope aint a stragery,

got a team does not tackle to the ground in practice.

ever wonder why our tailbacks cant break a tackle?

they dont hit during the week.

Whopper Dawg

October 30th, 2009
2:20 am

If 1/4 Willie was fired at half, I would be happier than if we beat Florida by 100 and ran the rest of the schedule.

BugKiller

October 30th, 2009
2:25 am

Also, as a kid who grew up with Nick At Night (on Nickelodeon), I LOVED Get Smart.

When I was 8 and 9, I had no clue that the show was about 20 years old.

Would you believe I had such a huge crush on Agent 99?

Hehe.

georgia74

October 30th, 2009
2:25 am

Whopper—I’ll add my left gonad and if Richt is included I;ll get 100%nuetered!!

uga-brave

October 30th, 2009
2:26 am

willmart,

will be here next year. richt will make him db coach.

mark it down. he will not get rid of him.

uga-brave

October 30th, 2009
2:32 am

it is called a zone blitz willie.

drop your defense ends into coverage.

they are going to try to freeze the linebckers. nuch like teennesse did.

give the QB a different look.

georgia74

October 30th, 2009
2:36 am

Willieazze will give Tebow a differnt look alright—that is what I am worried about—–a field day for TB—he probably will not run any TDs—just 5 TD passes

Athens Jail

October 30th, 2009
2:39 am

Scoring more than 10 points, that should be their goal. Sorry UGA fans another one of your players just came into the jail, Coach Richt is on the way.

NOLA Dawg

October 30th, 2009
2:45 am

How well the Gators play is more important than how well the Dawgs play. If the Gators that struggled against Arkansas and Miss St. shows up on Saturday, the Dawgs have a chance. However, the Dawgs have no chance if Florida is back to its pre-Tebow concussion level..

Fire Willie Martinez!

djawjuh

October 30th, 2009
2:47 am

At the outset of my remarks, you need know that I am a longtime Georgia fan. Saw my first game 70 years ago. Went this year to the LSU game as I live in another state mid-way cross country. I bleed Red and Black, I’ve recruited for us, I’ve given money to the AA, I’ve served on the Alumni Association’s Board and I am G-E-O-R-G-I-A through and through. But I didn’t buy American cars when I saw they were carelessly, stupidly and nonchalantly assembled. I had one that required five seperate transmission, all under warranty. No mas for me. And I’m not buying this football version of an American car either because it is a piece of junk and operates only intermittenly and always inconsistently. And remmber this will be the fourth straight year that we have not won the East.

No staff deserves to remain that has our team in last place in many categories in the SEC and has us in triple digits when it comes to its defensive performance and turnovers. Those kinds of stats or for other teams, not us, not Georgia. But alas they are.

And I, unlike many others, do not belileve it is all Willie. Oh to be sure he is a big contributor but last year’s shellacking was caused in great part .by our offense which proved to be inept even with three first/second NFL round choces populating our “juggernaut.”

I must and will be honest about my feelings. We need to lose and get on to anothe life. We are a train wreck. And why anyone wants to spare CMR is beyond my ken. Why? He’s presided over a fall off year-to-year beginning in 2005 and he’s never made a change in the coaching staff.

Saban has been at Bamma two years plus and he got a new DC and OC. All our crowd of Bozos are in tack. And to be honest, this guy Richt should be ashamed of himself because of the situation with the guy who got canned for some kind of automotive violation this week. He should have been suspended because he violated Richt’s own rules. When you make exceptions like this, it is dangerous to do for you lose control of your team (he’s lost control of it anyway) because the kids know that there are one set of rules for one group and another set of rules for certain individuals. What kind of coach is it that does that? I’ll tell you: One who’s damn well feelilng the heat despite his protestations to the contrary. He knows the Bulldawg nation is up in arms and he’s feeling it and he should!!!!!

Someone pointed out today that this would not happen were we playing Tennessee Tech Saturday. The kid would have been suspended but brought back in time for Auburn. What a hypocrite Preacher Richt is and he’s a bad coach too. The hierarchy of the SEC has passed him by. Mies, SAban and Meyer have won National Championships in half the time that Richt has been at Georgia!!And the brat in Knoxville whipped up something awful on us and ground MR’s face in the turf. That was not a fluke as the Alabama game showed a Tennessee team that played hard, much improved from last year and on the ups while we pass them silently like ships in the night on our way to obscurity. They are on their way to making a mark in the conference.

What’s acceptable to me is nothing less than losing and losing big. I cry when I read my own words but only disaster creates changes and a win over Florida, as unlikely as I think that is, would only prolong the agony of this inept coach and his equally if not more inept staff.

He’s chosen two coordinators who had little experience for what they do. My bet is he still calls the plays deluding himself that he is some kind of ace offensive genius. He isn’t. We have a moribund, unimaginative offense with an immobile QB, valiant as he is, who will not be able to get out of the way of the ferocious rush of the hard-charding Gators.

There’s no way that I see us winning though I’ve been to enough Florida games to know that most anything can happen.

Our program needs a cleaning out from top-to-bottom. The only way that happens is for us to lose to Florida and Auburn or Tech. Maybe Richt won’t get the axe but others will or else there will be a revolution in Georgia and the money boys will stop giving dinero. And you know what happens then. Ask Jim Donnan.

I’m not sure he won’t quit if told that he needs to make changes. He may be loyal to a fault. I don’t know the man. But if Damon says change and say I’m not going to do so, then there you have it. That, in my view, is not an improbable scenario.

It pains me to say this but Urban Meyer can do us a hellevu favor by beating hell out of us Saturday. And I hope he does. In the words of an American colonial era war hero: “If this be treason, make the most of it.”

Buzzy

October 30th, 2009
2:48 am

i love to watch you puppies squirm. Movember will here in a few days and you fleabags know what that means—– GT makes you PI$$ on yourself.

I hope you give your coaching staff a lifetime contract.

They will never stop th Trade School Express.

Go Gators—Score 50 on the fbags—we are going for total state domination—60–10 worst beating ever

djawjuh

October 30th, 2009
2:52 am

I’m a DAWG fan through and through. I can no longer tolerate this crap for a team in Athens, poorly coached and disciplind. We need to lose and lose by three TDs so that there is an opportunity to clean house. “If this be treason, make the most of it.”

djawjuh

October 30th, 2009
2:54 am

This will be year four, four years in a row that we don’t win the SEC East. Whatever Richt had he doesn’t have any more. Exit Richt. He’s the head man and in the Navy the captain can asleep in the bunk and if the ship goes aground it is hisfalt. Most definitely Richt is asleep and has been for quite a while. He is a complacesent guy and his staff apes him.

DirtyDawg

October 30th, 2009
3:05 am

An ‘acceptable’ outcome would be, win or lose, that we stand toe-to-toe with ‘em and smash ‘em in the mouth on every play and that bust Saint Timothy’s butt every time he handles the ball…that we get an ‘even shake’ from the officials (no bad calls on us and no ‘non calls’ for Florida)…that no matter the score Georgia fans stay put in the stands and defy any gaytor to get in your face…that Urbana (is that the feminine of Urban?) is caught on camera several times trying (unsuccessfully as in ‘07) to rally a gaytor team that’s gettin it’s tail whipped and/or mouthin’ ‘Oh my God’ at what Georgia’s doing to his team on the field…that UGA ‘tailgaters’ are BBQin gaytor-tails (preferably a full-sized, skinned, Florida alligator)…that Mr. Two Bits – assuming he’s still alive – has a heat-stroke and has to spend the day in the infirmary…that Florida is so damn far behind in the second half that there’s nobody left to sing that damn ‘we are the boys of old Fla-ra-da’ thing…that Saint Timothy tries to do the gayter chomp in Jeff Owens face and dislocates his shoulder…that Georgia fans party til’ dawn – or Monday – and drive home safely.

Yeah, that would be an ‘acceptable outcome’…not that I’m predicting it, but for starters it’s acceptable.

Gator Hater

October 30th, 2009
3:07 am

Buzzy

Give the crack pipe a rest…and get a life!!!! You’re a moron!!

Pitbull

October 30th, 2009
4:40 am

Mark, the Dawgs quit last year! I never saw a Dooley team quit. Erk Russell never had a def. team lay down. They would walk thru fire for him. Willies players may have a short burst of energy, but that’s about it. Van Gorders Def. was also tuff. Someone said the players have to be scaried of the boss. I think respectful is the word. Respectful that he knows what he is talking about. I think the players without a doubt know Martinze doesn’t have a clue half the time. He can coach good against some teams. But against top talent like Paul Johnson. He is lost and has little chance because everyone knows he CANT MAKE ADJUSTMENTS! Richt knows it, but his being a buddy overrules his devotion to his fans and employers! Sad but that’s the facts, lookem up! Evans needs to help give Richt the reasons to make the right decisions. Or, have the guts to cut his pay in line with his performance. Also his assistants PAY! Can you imagine the headline “Football coaches at UGA get Pay CUT not increase”. I bet you would love to write that article wouldn’t you.

theriddler

October 30th, 2009
5:21 am

It’s win or bust. I think Gators offense gets healthy this week, 38-10.

dagnabit

October 30th, 2009
5:32 am

Give Mark Richt a lifetime contract with a 7 mil buy-out clause. Jawja deserves it.

Florida Dawg

October 30th, 2009
5:59 am

Only a win in Jacksonville is acceptable.

Mountain Dawg

October 30th, 2009
6:02 am

Our best is not as good as their best. Florida has superior talent and superior coaching. An acceptable outcome is that every player gives 100% on every play. That we fight as hard in the 4th quarter as we do in the first, regardless the score.

Willie must go.

Bubba

October 30th, 2009
6:03 am

I agree, only a win is acceptable. But my feeling is this will be one of those dull, 27-3 type games where Georgia never threatens and Florida’s offense doesn’t look like a No. 1 team. Their defense is another matter.

Praying for change

October 30th, 2009
6:12 am

I would give about anything to see Martinez gone. What he has cost the Georgia program is unreal. He’s about the main reason we’ve sunk like the Titanic. He is the poorest college coach I’ve ever seen. I’m so sick and tired of CMR’s spin and excuses and covering poor performances. I have been a total MR supporter but his actions toward his coaches are slowly eating away at my feelings for him and the Georgia program. Can you say unranked? Can you say at the bottom of most stats? Can you say having to score in the 30’s to even have a chance at winning? Can you say no longer feared and looked on as a second tier program? Can you say CMR has allowed the Georgia program to experience a plunge because of his loyalty and friendship to his assistant coaches and coordinators? I’ll tell you what will be done after this season…. NOTHING!!!!! CMR is already telling recruits that Willie Martinez will be back …. if he comes back …. stick a fork in our program … it’s done.

MARK, could you give CMR a call and verify if recruits are being told Willie will return? If CMR tells recruits he will return … CMR will honor his word and no matter what happens Willie will be back for another fisco….

Wesley Wallace

October 30th, 2009
6:25 am

As long as the referees do not screw up the game like the FL-Arkansas/GA-LSU crew, then I will be happy.

George P.

October 30th, 2009
6:27 am

“Leonard Nimoy and Lynda Day George episodes”

Like the one in which they are trying to overthrow a Castro-like dictator of a banana republic? Or was that all of them?

Go Dawgs

October 30th, 2009
6:41 am

Hopefully uga wins…if they dont- here is what is acceptable….no rushing TD for Teblow….Teblow has to watch game from sidelines……..

Go Dawgs

October 30th, 2009
6:42 am

but of course, we all know the sewage we call SEC officials have their plan in place- bet they throw 8 flags on UGA in the first half.

Mitch

October 30th, 2009
6:44 am

Mark,
Being a life time Dawg fan I am really depressed in thinking that in the back of my mind I am hoping that Georgia gets blown out buy Florida and loses the rest of there games to force CMR into changing the present coaching staff. I am afraid if the do win Saturday CMR will have all the reason to keep Willie ‘’soft zone “M.

These coaching changes should have been made last year .The Dawg nation were given one excuse after another. If CMR claims that he does not have the talent as the other schools in the S.E.C.they need to fire him on the spot. Just on the basis’s of stupidity alone.

‘’NO MORE EXCUSES CMR GROW SOME STONES AND CLEAN HOUSE’’!!!