
Jamal Crawford (in white above the key) is one of many new Hawks. (Photo by M. Bradley)
Mike Woodson might have too many players. As problems go, this is among the better ones. Indeed, it beats the heck out of the issue Woodson faced when he arrived here in 2004 — having no players whatsoever.
“That team [the 2004-05 Hawks, who lost 69 games] was gutted,” Woodson said Wednesday, speaking before the grown-up Hawks were to open their season against Indiana. “We were in rebuilding mode. We counted on young guys to get better — Marvin [Williams] and Smoove [Josh Smith] and Al [Horford], and even Joe [Johnson] was young — and they have. And if they continue to grow, we’ve got a chance to be in the hunt the next three or four years.”
And they do. But first Woodson has to wrangle a roster unlike any he has had. He has to find minutes for 11 legitimate NBA players, and not many teams ever placate 11 men. So, Woodson was asked, can he?
“It’s something I haven’t done,” he said. “And I will not sacrifice games just to satisfy someone.”
Then this: “It’s important to get a rotation down, and I haven’t quite done that yet. You can’t find 30 minutes a night for 11 or 12 guys.”
Fun with numbers: The Hawks kept seven of their top eight players, drafted Jeff Teague, traded for Jamal Crawford and signed Joe Smith and Jason Collins as free agents. That makes 11 men, 10 of whom have professional pedigrees. And Woodson says of Teague: “He played well enough in preseason to earn some time on the floor. I’m going to play him tonight.”
But now the Hawks have six perimeter players — Mike Bibby, Johnson, Crawford, Teague, Williams and Mo Evans. As Woodson conceded: “It’s not going to be easy to play all six.” Especially if Johnson slides to small forward and takes some minutes there.”
More Woodson: “I wasn’t interested in bringing young guys in [this summer]. We needed veteran guys who’d fit a piece of the puzzle. Our draft choice is going to be our young guy now. And if [Teague] continues to do it over a long haul, he’ll get minutes. I’ve been pretty pleased so far.”
The interior riddle is simpler: Five men for two positions. Horford and Josh Smith to start, Zaza Pachulia and Joe Smith and Collins to relieve.
“It’s important for [bench] guys to know their roles,” Woodson said. “Jamal has got to score. Joe Smith has to defend and rebound. Jason Collins has to defend and give hard fouls and do the dirty work … You’ve got to play well enough to earn your time on the floor.”
There will be difficult moments ahead. Not everyone will work enough to suit him, and one or two will say so publicly. But that’s OK. So long as Woodson establishes a working second unit and eases the load on his starters, the increased depth will yield an increase in victories. Besides, it’s better to have good guys sitting than not have them at all.
“I remember last year after Al got hurt those two times,” Woodson said. “We were exposed. Al’s the one guy I feared going down. But having Joe Smith and Collins, that’s a help.”
It is. Still, it will take some time to assimilate these glad new tidings. The Hawks having too much talent: What’s next? The Thrashers having a glut at goaltender?
And with that: The floor is open for your questions, comments, song requests. I’ll be honored and privileged to chat with any and all of you during tonight’s game. Which I believe the Hawks will win by 23 points.
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Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
8:34 pm
Josh had 16 points and six assists in the first half. Also three steals.
On the other hand, he had one more rebound than a dead man.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
8:35 pm
Esteemed colleague Sekou Smith notes that Granger scored 20 points on Marvin Williams, who was taken 12 spots ahead of him in the 2005 draft.
NCBravesFan
October 28th, 2009
8:37 pm
Hey! They’re pitching a shutout so far! Go MB!!!
Atl Sports Fan
October 28th, 2009
8:37 pm
Man gotta love these steals.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
8:38 pm
Two more for Granger.
And Horford now has 16. On Hibbert. So much for him not being a center.
Smitty
October 28th, 2009
8:41 pm
Woodson has more players and a deep roster. he will either figure out how to use them to improve on last year or he won’t, in which case he will be gone. Selah. But I just remembered why it was so hard to watch them on TV. Does Hawks management have no other place to put Dominique but on the Sportsouth broadcasts as color man with Mr. Obnoxious. Dom’s dull,inane, self-serving, uncreative, repetitive analyses, all based on his experience(recall: he never won any kind of championship- the dogs went to the final four after he left-) are enough to turn off any viewer. He is plain awful. any suggestions? he makes me enjoy watching baseball, ugh.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
8:41 pm
Hawks had 19 points off the bench in the first half. And Crawford had none.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
8:42 pm
Joe hits a three from Horfy’s pass.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
8:44 pm
Horfy from Josh. Hawks by eight.
tjhook
October 28th, 2009
8:45 pm
Mark, what do you think about the Hawks reacquiring Stephen Jackson.(trade Marvin, please). The only issue he had was witnessing the deconstruction of the team (got him suspended one game)but that was because he was so focused on getting the most out of the moment. As a former basketball champion, Jackson understands why having a sense of urgency can improve a basketball team’s game.
Joe is probrably emotionally exhausted from carrying the Hawks’ banner (only consistent star on the team – everyone else is occasionally outstanding). Playing alongside a proven player like Jackson can be motivating because there is a peer to help legitimately push you and whose abilities you trust. Joe can’t trust anyone but Bibby right now and that’s trusting a guy with a great jumper and average athleticism. TRADE MARVIN! . . . but tell me how you feel.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
8:47 pm
Stephen Jackson has some baggage, as you know.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
8:48 pm
Joe’s got it going. He now has 15. Horfy with 18, Josh with 17.
And Granger with 27.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
8:53 pm
Horford dunks. He has 20.
I keep thinking the Hawks are going to pull away any minute, but it’s still a five-point game. Four minutes left in the quarter.
Other Peoples Money
October 28th, 2009
8:53 pm
Not too many folk here. But the Hunnies are out in FULL FORCE!!! Golddiggers of the world UNITE!!
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
8:56 pm
Mo Evans with five quick points. Hawks by eight.
Other Peoples Money
October 28th, 2009
8:57 pm
I would give 5 bucks to know what Bibby is looking at when he stares at his hand. He bites his nail after that.
Jmayne
October 28th, 2009
8:58 pm
This second unit is great, Teague, Crawford, Mo Evans, Smith, and Zaza. I never thought id say this, but the hawks have a bench!! Im glad i took the over. Winner winner, chicken dinner!!
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:01 pm
Crawford has four fouls and three points.
Benjamin
October 28th, 2009
9:04 pm
I’m sitting in my office, unable to watch the game from this vantage point.
Is Danny Granger that good?
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:04 pm
Solomon Jones with a follow jam. Lead’s only a point after three quarters.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:05 pm
Danny Granger is good. I don’t know if he’s this good.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:08 pm
Pacers tie on Earl Watson’s runner.
Benjamin
October 28th, 2009
9:11 pm
Also noting that Josh Smith is working on an 8 assist, no turnover night. While this news would normally excite me, I’m already dreading the next game vs. the Wizards where he turns the ball over seven times, four of which are no-look passes into the stands.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:12 pm
And now Watson with a one-hop trey. Indiana leads by a point, 8:51 left.
bodean
October 28th, 2009
9:14 pm
Seems that Josh Smith still doesn’t know what a bad shot looks like….
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:14 pm
He forced the last one. But he’s had a great game. We’ll forgive him that one.
Other Peoples Money
October 28th, 2009
9:15 pm
OH OH, Time to stop jerking around. Some crazy stats going on. Hawks with just 6 turnovers to Indys 20. Josh with TEN assist????
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:16 pm
Bibby puts Hawks up two with a trey. Off Joe’s pass. Those two work so well together.
bodean
October 28th, 2009
9:18 pm
Tacky technical…. I’ve seen MUCH worse
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:18 pm
Horford dunks home Joe’s miss but gets T for … something.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:19 pm
What did he do? Fluff out his jersey? Wow.
preston
October 28th, 2009
9:20 pm
18 turnovers for the pacers and they have still scored over 100 points against the hawks……..we look like we are pulling away from them now, but we cant win many games and be considered a top team in the east with this type of defensive effort……we are lucky that the pacers have made soo many mistakes or we would be in trouble with this game.
The Hawksta
October 28th, 2009
9:21 pm
Great steal by Josh! Chalk him up for another. We do need some rebounds and blocks the rest of the game though. Yes Granger miss the ticky tack tech free throw
bodean
October 28th, 2009
9:22 pm
Illegal screen….wish they would have called that one against the Cowboys….
The Hawksta
October 28th, 2009
9:22 pm
Too many whistles! Are these the replacement refs or what?
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:23 pm
Joe drives. Hawks up eight.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:24 pm
Remember how I said Joe looked out of sorts. He has, er, 22 points.
The Hawksta
October 28th, 2009
9:24 pm
If Josh would just let go of the ball on the break he’d get it back for a dunk. He loves to dribble dribble dribble!
bodean
October 28th, 2009
9:25 pm
Hadn’t seen the whole game…how has the new bench looked?
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:26 pm
Good, Bodean. Even though Crawford hasn’t done much.
Other Peoples Money
October 28th, 2009
9:26 pm
The Pacers are a decent bunch. But they are out of gas now. They get Dunleavy and Physco T back they are going to be trouble for alot of teams in this league.
bodean
October 28th, 2009
9:27 pm
Cool….anybody watching JJ’s minutes?
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:27 pm
Hawks by 10 now. Joe has taken over.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:28 pm
Through three quarters Joe had played 27 minutes, and he hasn’t come out this quarter. So he’ll end up around 40.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:30 pm
Well, Woodson was true to his pregame word. He played the bench. (Although not Jason Collins.) But the five starters are in now and have been for a while.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:31 pm
Raining at the World Series, I see. I’ve sat through a few of those games.
Philly leads 1-0. Utley with a homer.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:33 pm
Granger has 31.
Bibby answers with a trey.
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:34 pm
I count three offensive fouls on the Hawks this quarter. Refs must be getting paid by the tweet.
Black Lab
October 28th, 2009
9:35 pm
I agree. They have too many players. Crawford did not get much time in tonight. Horford is a beast!
Mark Bradley
October 28th, 2009
9:35 pm
Over now. Hawks by 12 inside the final minute. Wasn’t easy, but it counts.
Headed downstairs now.