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Best collegian ever? Tebow No. 2, Herschel still No. 1

12:55 pm October 26, 2009, by Mark Bradley

Tim Tebow is the greatest collegian of the 21st Century. But the greatest collegiate player ever? Not quite. That distinction falls to a man who played for the other side in the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, and I speak of  …

Zippy Morocco.

OK, I’m kidding. You know who I mean. As majestic as he was against everybody, Herschel Walker was never so splendid as those three afternoons in Jacksonville. He rushed for 649 yards and scored eight touchdowns against the Gators, who were really good each year but lost three times simply because they didn’t have Herschel. (Granted, Lindsay Scott had a bit to do with the 1980 outcome.)

Not since Herschel has the college game seen a force so irresistible as Tebow. He figures to win a second Heisman Trophy on merit. But Herschel played only three seasons before leaving for the USFL, and he won one Heisman and should have had two (he was clearly superior to George Rogers in 1980) and would have had another had he completed his eligibility.

Grand as he is, Tebow hasn’t been the Florida focal point all four seasons. He was the backup/changeup to Chris Leak when the Gators took the 2006 national championship, and in his first season as a starter he won the Heisman but didn’t lift his team to higher heights. The 2007 Gators finished 9-4. The Georgia Bulldogs with Herschel Walker lost three games in three seasons: Two to teams (Clemson and Penn State) that would themselves take national titles, the third to a team (Pittsburgh) that finished No. 2 in the land.

Georgia with Herschel won the 1980 national title, played for the 1982 championship and was still in the hunt until Clemson beat Nebraska in the Orange Bowl on Jan. 1, 1982. Those Bulldogs won three SEC titles at a time when Paul W. Bryant was still coaching Alabama and Patrick F. Dye was getting going at Auburn and Mike Shanahan was coordinating the Florida run-and-shoot.

It would be wrong to suggest Herschel had no help. He didn’t play defense. (He did, however, return kickoffs.) But it’s instructive that Georgia produced only one first-round NFL draftee those three seasons, that being the aforementioned Scott. It finished undefeated in 1980 despite not leading the SEC in any major offensive or defensive category. It won because of No. 34.

From the moment he stepped onto Shields-Watkins Field the night of Sept. 6, 1980, Herschel was the only Dog who mattered. Remember Clemson biting on the handoff to the broken-thumbed Herschel on Labor Day night 1982 and being laid bare on a reverse to Tron Jackson? (No matter that the play was nullified by penalty.) Every defense was set to stop one man, and in 36 games that man rushed for more than 100 yards 31 times.

He willed Georgia to the Sugar Bowl victory over Notre Dame on Jan. 1, 1981, by gaining 150 yards with a separated shoulder on a day when the Bulldogs managed 127 total yards. The Georgia quarterback, name of Benjamin Franklin Belue, completed one pass (in 13 attempts) for seven yards.

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In 33 regular-season games Georgia managed 13,012 yards from scrimmage. Herschel gained 5,502 of those. He was 42 percent of Georgia’s offense without completing a pass. (Though he did once throw the ball. Against Kentucky in 1981. Intercepted.)

You can argue that because Tebow runs and passes he means more to Florida than Herschel meant to Georgia, but you’d be wrong. Tebow has demonstrably more talent around him. He has worked alongside three first-round Gators, with Brandon Spikes and Carlos Dunlap sure to come.

I have no problem calling Tebow the second-best college player ever. But no player lifted a program higher faster than Herschel Walker, the Goal Line Stalker. Georgia was 20-13-1 the three years before he arrived. It was 33-3 the three years he dotted the “I.” Cause and effect. Case closed.

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SECschizo

October 26th, 2009
11:58 pm

Dear Ted, Indeed your are correct to check your arrogance and ignorance. Your sincere beliefs amount to nonsense. It is most likely that you would only be able to tackle a slow fat girl scout, after she has tripped on her untied shoelaces.

RealityRose

October 27th, 2009
12:09 am

Does anyone know of any really good sales going on in Jacksonville this week? I figure it will take Mr. Tebow and Company less than three hours to dispense with my beloved bulldogs and I would love to get some early Christmas shopping done. I’ll need a nice formal dress to wear to the Downtown Athletic Club when Timmy picks up his second Heisman in December. I’ll need some nice nice pumps as well. I do look forward to shopping for my Heisman outfit. If I’m lucky, I’ll get my picture take with that hunk of a player, Timmy Tebow. Who knows, my outfit could become a photo in the Times. All you SEC fans take care, See you on Saturday and in ……New York! Toodles!!

aarh

October 27th, 2009
12:11 am

The NFL theorys also bogus, bc Herschel was good in the NFL…maybe not as good as in college. You have to remember though that he spent his early yrs. in the USFL…so that’s one reason that when he was in his prime…he wasn’t putting up any numbers in the NFL. Under normal circumstances…his numbers would have been much greater…had he went straight to the NFL. Who says he was average at best…he was a Pro Bowler at Dallas…you know! Besides the question isn’t who was the best in the NFL…it’s who’s the best college football player ever. So forget about this best athlete, best NFL player, best NASCAR driver, or whatever other bull you guys want to come up w/. You need to realize…Herschel did it all….he could run, catch, do kick returns, & everything you don’t see too many of todays players do. If it comes down to who’s the best NFL player…then I guess that means we’ll have to wait until Tebow’s NFL career is over. I tend to believe if you want to do that…that Herschel will probably end up better, bc He was a Pro-Bowler, & I doubt Tebow ever will be. Tebow’s great, but stop comparing apples to oranges.

Lucy In The Sky With Orson

October 27th, 2009
12:27 am

Dawgs73 is one SMART GUY!!

Stockdog

October 27th, 2009
12:47 am

I agree that Hershel is the greatest college player and Barry Sanders and Bo Jackson would be tied for second. Tebow has won only one National Championship and one SEC championship as a starting QB. Chris Leake was the starter for the Championship season in 2006. Tebow was a situational player. Percy Harvin as a freshman had a bigger impact on that team than Tim Tebow. If you had to redshirt either Percy Harvin or Tim Tebow in 2006, you would have redshirted Tebow. I think Tebow is in the top 5 of College players, but no. 1 is a stretch.

Mark Bradley

October 27th, 2009
12:53 am

I don’t mean to be a jerk, but I barely remember seeing Barry Sanders play (even on TV) as a collegian. He won the Heisman because he gained 2,000 yards, but did you really get a good look at him when he was at Oklahoma State? (Remember, this was 1988, when there weren’t 15 games on every Saturday.)

GaCracker

October 27th, 2009
1:04 am

Charley Trippi was a greater all round pleyer than either. Tebow quit and let tbe Miss. State guy have a TD on the interception return. He wimped out!

Grandad

October 27th, 2009
1:06 am

Much like you I never saw Barry Sanders in college, but when I did finally see him (plus watching old clips) there is no doubt he is the greatest running back of all time.

Grandad

October 27th, 2009
1:08 am

*Pro and or college!

RED DOG 77

October 27th, 2009
1:14 am

Mark, I remember 1988 quite well, of course Im an old fart. I did see Barry Sanders several times on tv , he was remarkable, bounced around made alot of people miss, But I never considered him one of the greats. Jim Thorpe is my main man , would make primetime look silly in that D backfield……..Will be enjoying the beach here in Ponte Vedra in a few hours. GO DOGS

Which 1 of Herschel personalty won the heisman?

October 27th, 2009
1:32 am

He also was a flop in the NFL. A couple years ago ESPN had him at #8 as the biggest flops ever in the NFL. Dallas traded the leghumper to the vikings and Dallas won the superbowl. Georgia hasn’t done squat since 1982. FAILURE..IT’S JUST A WAY OF LIFE AT UGA.

Herschel wears Tim Tebow Pajamas

October 27th, 2009
1:42 am

SWEET!

Ted Striker

October 27th, 2009
2:01 am

SECschizo @11:59 pm: Dude. Girl Scouts? A pox upon thee for bringing Girl Scouts into a mature [haha!] sports discussion. On the other hand, if an attractive, intelligent, charismatic 29 year old DRESSED AS A GIRL SCOUT invites me to play nekkie twister this Halloween, I might be tempted to accept the invitation. (If we have chemistry together)

Mark: Excellent point about Barry Sanders. Not having an opportunity to see someone play certainly makes a difference in how the player is perceived by the general sports population. I’d have loved to have seen guys like Red Grange, Doak Walker, Earl Campbell, and Barry Sanders play in person, and play often.

drbasic1

October 27th, 2009
2:40 am

For what its worth, i had my butt knocked out in a high school game against Hershel, it was him, me, goal line….10 seconds later i was saying WTF!!…yes a long time ago. I saw Hershel not to long ago, as in just as good of shape as in college. For all you people to young to have seen Hershel play,( not even all the video does him justice) he was a sight to see, capable of scoring every time he touched the ball. I think even today at his age, he could suit up and STILL run over the BIGGER and FASTER defensive players of today, and if you don’t think so, you really never have seen him. Tebow is great without doubt, but i would like to see him TODAY, run over the likes of Eddie “meat cleaver” Weaver, even from one yard out….but that is a different story….

GATORMAN 722

October 27th, 2009
5:50 am

You Georgia people just don’t get it. Do you think that Walker will play Saturday? Tim Tebow will be playing and break Walkers touchdown record. Go Timmy Tebow, Go Gators.

71 Dawg

October 27th, 2009
6:43 am

When Joe Hamilton played for Tech, they were always one bad pitch away from disaster. He even fumbled away the UGA game in Athens (ACC refs screwed the Dawgs that time). Joe was just pretty good at best. The Tech defense was maligned big time for giving up points when it was Joe’s eratic play that kept giving the other team the ball with a short field in front of them. Kinda like we do at UGA these days!!!

GoDawgs

October 27th, 2009
6:48 am

Herschel was all class and played for a coach that was all class. They played at a time where the officials called the game as it was. Tebow has no class, plays for a coach that has even less class. They play at a time when the only reason they are still unbeaten and ranked #1 is because of the SEC Officials. Not ONE call BUT TWO CALLS. The sad part is the SEC sends out an appology then turns around and does the same thing next week. I bet they are out in full force this week in JAX- no way is Mike and his slim going to allow UF to lose a game. Comparing these two scum to Walker and Dooly is like compairing God to the Devil.

I'vewatchedthembothplay

October 27th, 2009
7:11 am

My two favorite college football teams are Florida, because that is where I went to school and Georgia, because it is where both my parents graduated. Between 1969 and 2006, I never missed a Florida-Georgia game. Those I didn’t attend, I watched on tv.

I think the Tebow – Walker argument is an apples and oranges argument! You really cann’t compare a QB to a RB because the skill set is completely different. There is no question that Walker is the best runningback in the history of college football. To be honest, you can’t put Tebow in the top 10 QB to have ever played the game. But there is no question when it comes to determining the best OVERALL PLAYER to have played the game and that honor goes to Tim Tebow – with Steve Spurrier a close second.

When you compare Tebow’s character, leadership, talents, accomplishments, love of the game and the fact that he has won three SEC titles, two BCS national championships and one Heisman trophy (and several other awards) and he is well on path to potentially winning another SEC championship and possibly playing for another national championship to that of Walker or anyone else underconsideration, the argument is not close. To me, what seperates Tebow from Walker is that he had a choice going into his senior year: Me or Team. Walker chose to do what was best for him personally and Tebow chose to do what was best for the team.

Football is not a “me” sport, it is a team sport. This is why Tebow is the greatest PLAYER to have ever played the game … to this point in the history of the game.

I’m looking forward as a Gator to watching the game on Saturday with my Georgia Bulldog wife! I am hoping the Gators win and that Tebow breaks Walker’s TD record.

I think there is something we can all agree on … as Gators and Dawgs … we are fortunate to have had both of these players play in the SEC!

Sloan

October 27th, 2009
7:18 am

Bo Jackson was a great football player. BUT he is not in this conversation! Not because he wasn’t immensely talented. He just did not have the impact in college that Herschel or Tebow have. Comparing Tebow and Herschel is very difficult because of the difference in positions. The only problem that I have with watching UF last week was how the announcers carried on about Tebow tying Herschel’s rushing TD record without a mention of the fact that Herschel did it in just 3 seasons.

Freehawk

October 27th, 2009
8:10 am

George Rogers won the Heisman trophy and “clearly” deserved it.

C C

October 27th, 2009
8:32 am

Some good arguments but it’s really provincial, to say that Herschel and Tebow are 1 and 2 all-time mainly because you didn’t see the others play. I’ll agree that they are the best you ever saw play.

HW and TT are way up there, don’t get me wrong…among the best ever. Archie Griffin, Jim Brown, Tony Dorsett, Marcus Allen, and even Roger Staubach were among the best also.

Bo Jackson was great, but not quite HW. Wasn’t happy when I saw Bo break a long one at GT, after the underdog Jackets had led most of the way. At least GT has won the more recent two against Auburn.

Good points, Mark and Ted, about how players are perceived because of media, NFL vs college careers, etc. Yep, some people elevate Barry Sanders’ “collegiate” rating because of his awesome NFL career. But he * was * a great collegian too…I think better than Mark gives him credit for. If he didn’t happen to back up Thurman Thomas his first two years, he might have rewritten more records. I remember watching Earl Campbell in his NFL prime and he was exceptional…but I don’t know as much about him as a collegian. OJ was up there, but that whole homicide thing kinda rubs people the wrong way.

Yes, Tebow had more games than HW for his stats, but some players choose to follow the $$$ and leave college early. Nothing wrong with that, when a player is ready for the pros before their senior year like Herschel was…But he made that decision and his legacy (or at least his stats) take a hit as a result. Deal with it. If he stuck around for a year 4 and stayed healthy it could have * really * been off the charts, been only the second guy with two Heismans, etc. Didn’t happen and IMO there is not a consensus “best-ever” in college football.

I agree that they should count bowl stats from all eras. But like it or not, Tebow could well get enough rushing TDs to surpass HW’s SEC record by 5 or more anyway…so those who argue about the older-era bowl TDs not being counted in the totals, that would then be a moot point as far as the SEC all-time record-holder goes. If Tebow stays healthy he has 6-7 games left, including not-so-stellar defenses like UGA, Vandy, FIU, and FSU.

Tebow hasn’t been the same since the concussion. If he keeps playing like he has the last few weeks, that reduces the chance of another NC, SECC, Heisman, etc. And his legacy as a collegian would be slightly reduced but he still will go down as one of the very best. Then again he and UF could hit a stride and win everything in sight…UGA fans are just hoping he goes at least one more week first, of course. But so far Tebow doesn’t deserve a Heisman this year. Unlike the haters though, I say he absolutely deserved that first one: What he did in 2007 was just ridiculous.

One last thing…On the Heisman-shaft discussion: IMO Joe Hamilton deserved it over Ron Dayne. Didn’t get as much NFL consideration due to being 5′ 10-ish, but he did play a lot of pro ball including plenty of NFL PT…got a Super Bowl ring with Chucky’s Tampa Bay Bucs.

C C

October 27th, 2009
8:56 am

71 Dawg, I don’t know who this other “Joe Hamilton” is that you were watching…or maybe you watched a game or two. He was a great dual-threat passer who put up big numbers and made great plays with his feet. Even great QBs fumble sometimes.

He was second nationally in QB rating and second in Heisman voting his senior year.

When he finished he was the ACCs all-time leader in total offense, ranked among the Top 10 in NCAA history, was the first player in D I-A history to top 10,000 total yards with 1,500 rushing yards, had the highest career pass efficiency rating in ACC history, was the ACC’s all-time leader in TD passes and touchdown responsibility with 83 (tied with Virginia’s Shawn Moore), while ranking fourth all-time in passing yards.

Sounds like “pretty good at best”.

And of course there is one thing I’ve learned from all of the posts this season: If UGA loses it’s usually the refs fault. Even when they make the same bad call back-to-back against both teams!

C C

October 27th, 2009
9:00 am

“Herschel was all class and played for a coach that was all class.”

He just didn’t sound like he ever * went * to class!!!

(But yes, he was one of the absolute best college football players we’ve ever seen.
Just like Tebow…)

Wally Butts

October 27th, 2009
9:22 am

Herschel did not leave school early by choice. He signed illegally with an agent and when it was made public he had no choice but to leave early.

Steve Spurrier

October 27th, 2009
9:30 am

I see that Bark Madley, like all of the other Leg Humpers, is still living in the past. It’s now 27 years since Herschel and that is all the UGA fans have to talk about.

Jort

October 27th, 2009
9:31 am

Hershel Walker could not even wear Tim Tebows jean shorts, though I bet he would want to.

Jake Stanfil

October 27th, 2009
10:19 am

Spurrier was a panty-waist crybaby who couldn’t bring home a conference crown as a player. As a coach he was only great when he had more talent than everyone else. Now that he has to win on scheme alone with average talent, his teams are average at best. How long before South Carolina fires him?

Ed

October 27th, 2009
10:25 am

Herschel’s teams were 18-0 in conference, won three SEC championships, played in three straight Sugar Bowls, played twice for the national championship, won one MNT, lost three games in three years to the cream of college football at that time – Pitt, Clemson and Penn State – all close losses that could have gone the other way. No conference losses, no embarrassing losses, no backing into title games after a series of upsets around the country. Tebow’s great, but there simply is no comparison.

coach smith

October 27th, 2009
10:28 am

I don’t think TEBOW is “actually” about to break HERSCHEL’s rushing TD record

Why you ask?

Because

1. Tebow has played 4 seasons, Herschel only played 3
2. Tebow plays 12 game seasons, Herschel played 10 or 11
3. Bowl stats count for Tebow, they did not count for Herschel

all in all, that gives Tebow around 20 MORE GAMES to get his TDs than Herschel had

Imagine how many more Walker would have scored in 20 more games

Ed

October 27th, 2009
10:29 am

Did I mention Herschel had two perfect regular seasons in 3 years? One perfect season after the bowl? UF has one of the former and none of the latter. Tebow still has a chance to get one, but UF better right its ship fast for that to happen.

Dawg Fud

October 27th, 2009
10:57 am

not going to lie…when Tebow breaks the record on us this weekend it is going to sting

GO DAWGS

ClauderD

October 27th, 2009
11:19 am

First off, GREAT Article, as ususal, Mark!!! I wholeheartedly agree with Dirty Dawg, let Hershel suit up @ 45. No question, HW is the Best Ever!
After the Dawgs dusted Auburn @ Jordan-Hare and Larry saw “Sugar falling out of the sky,” right after Hershel scored late to seal up the SEC Championship (I forget which year), a precedent was set in the collegiate ranks that even Tebow will not be able to overcome. Good as there is now, but not the Best Ever. Go Dawgs, Beat Gators (We need to save the season!!!)

successliveshere

October 27th, 2009
11:59 am

Tommie Frazier #1, without a doubt.

GMan

October 27th, 2009
12:08 pm

Both are important for their period of time. Why should we compare and contrast great players? You can argue stats all you want, but they both set themselves apart from others in college football.

GMan

October 27th, 2009
12:11 pm

I could care less if it was 3 years or 4 years…if they counted bowl games or not….if you begin to do that…you better be prepared to start breaking down what defined a national championship in the Bear Bryant years versus today. It’s NOT apples to apples.

UGA ALL THE WAY

October 27th, 2009
12:20 pm

Not to mention, i believe Walker only played 11 games during his time with UGA. Not 12 like everyone else, didnt count stats from bowl games or championship games. he only played 3yrs. Sounds like Walker is and always will be THE MAN!!!

UGA ALL THE WAY

October 27th, 2009
12:21 pm

11 games a season that is….

TheItalianDawg

October 27th, 2009
12:32 pm

I dont know why are you debating this? Tebow is not even in the top 10! look at Tebow now without Percy Harvin and i say he is pretty average. Herschel Walker is an absolute best college football player ever, even here in Florida, many gator fans agree with that

Damion Carpenter

October 27th, 2009
2:45 pm

Herschel Walker… #34.
I cant believe the disputes about Herschel Walker. The man changed GA football and college football. Its a disgrace he didnt win the heisman as a true freshman in 1980 over George Rogers. I can live with Marcus Allen in 1981, but Herschel could have won it that year also, before finally being given the nod in 1983. Bo was good. Barry Sanders was great. Archie Griffin, Reggie Bush, and Rickey was all great also, but there was only one Herschel. Tebow is a good QB and person, but he is also a product of great talent around him and the darling of the media (which he has no control over).

kick the puppy when its down

October 27th, 2009
6:08 pm

tebow could be an all american at just about any position on the field. and he (kinda) has an arm. lil timmy is the best ALL AROUND football player. he unfortunately has no future at QB in the nfl

Drexel Gal

October 27th, 2009
6:41 pm

As I said on another blog in this rag’s Website … For the Greatest College Football Player Of All Time, I vote for Walker … DOAK Walker!

Ted Striker

October 27th, 2009
11:14 pm

I also think Tracy Ham was a better collegiate QB than Tim Tebow.

Eric

October 28th, 2009
1:22 pm

Whichever guy you pull for, it’s nice to know that 2 of the greatest ever played in this rivalry.

Eric

October 28th, 2009
1:22 pm

Whichever guy you pull for, it’s nice to know that 2 of the greatest ever played in this rivalry.

Brooking 56

October 28th, 2009
8:57 pm

I’m a Tide Fan. I remember thinking that Herschel must have killed some high school player. Hands down the best football player in history. Then come Brooking at # 2 .

fred dre

October 29th, 2009
2:37 pm

20-13-1 before,33-3 after,and he should have won three heismans.

Barry Jay

October 30th, 2009
11:44 am

Who is greatest? Tebow loses the argument every time. He is a special player. But his stats were acheived in in a spread offense that is relatively new to the SEC. It stretches defenses and teams have struggled to stop this system. The scheme helped Tebow.

Herschel’s stats, had he played his fourth year without injury, would have been untouchable in the running offense that most teams of his day played. Most teams practiced against a conventional offense and were better prepared.

Herschel was a unique physical specimen. Line Tebow up at tailback exclusively in a conventional offense. Or better yet, put him under center in a conventional offense. Would he be as special?
No.

Barry Jay

October 30th, 2009
12:06 pm

The number of Heisman’s won makes no difference in this discussion. Frankly, the Heisman is much better than the beauty contest that is the BCS. Bias comes to the fore on many a year…especially when stats do not clearly stand above other candidates.

Because of Tebow’s running stats…people say he could win the Heisman as a tailback. He could never win the Heisman as a tailback or a pocket QB. He only wins because of the less used offensive scheme he plays in. While the spread is now becoming more mainstream, when Tebow began to run it, it was still new to the SEC. He is a talented player who flourished in an innovative system.

Tebow is great, however, because of the intangibles he brings. His teams have been uber talented, and Tebow helps them all perform at a higher level. That is part of why he won his first Heisman and why the Heisman does not matter. All QB’s bring intangibles. It is Tebow’s stats with intangibles that put him over the top for that award. Take Tebow out of this system and he doesn’t score the touchdowns he has. Because of the uncertainty the offensive system creates, I don’t think he’d get the passing stats either. Without the system, they don’t compete for the MNC either. Would Tebow’s intangibles seem so great then?

The Heisman is irrelevant in judging the best player ever.

GMan

October 30th, 2009
2:35 pm

For the record, Tony Dungy made the following remarks recently when asked about Tebow: Dungy said if he ran St. Louis, he’d draft Tebow high in the first round. “Franchise quarterbacks are hard to fine, and I believe in this guy,” Dungy said.

Dan asked Dungy if Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy, Jake Locker and Jimmy Clausen were available, would he take Tebow over all of them. Dungy said yes, he’d take Tebow.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/84261/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz0VRgTCtLE

Ken

November 1st, 2009
4:39 pm

Sounds like sour grapes to me…how many SEC teams had won championships in HW’s era? Alabama – then UGA once. Now, the SEC has had AL, UT, LSU, and UF – Auburn had their undefeated season…anyone that says Tebow has had it easier is sipping the Kool-Aid. Tebow took Herschel’s rushing record and has thrown 77 more TD passes than Herschel. Tebow has carried the ball about half as many times as HW on the way to topping one of the greatest backs in NCAA history. Unless you have actual yardage to compare, don’t give me “hunches” that Tebow’s rushing TDs came from shorter yardage. Yesterday’s rushing TDs came from 23 and 5 yards out, not exactly one-yard plunges like everyone assumes. Tebow should have won the Heisman last year (if Big 12 voters hadn’t completely left him off their list he would have outdistanced McCoy), HW should have won it as a freshman. HW won 1 NCG…Tebow has won 2 and has a chance at 3. Both guys are among the greatest players in NCAA history, but looking at HW’s stats in the pros, he could’ve stayed in college another year and nobody would’ve missed him in the NFL (he did pretty well in the USFL, but so did a lot of other players who didn’t make it in the NFL). Who knows how Tebow will do in the pros, but stats, winning championships, and every other measure prove his superiority to HW. Not that I would expect the AJC to be objective about this :-)

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