Who’s less defensive: UGA’s Martinez or Tech’s Wommack?
Tech's Dave Wommack: Whistling past the graveyard? (AJC photo by Johnny Crawford)
For long moments Saturday night in Tallahassee, it was possible to believe Willie Martinez isn’t the lesser of the two Division I-A defensive coordinators in Georgia. True, the men of Martinez had yielded 45 points and 472 yards in Knoxville that very afternoon in Knoxville, but the non-work of Dave Wommack’s Georgia Tech D was threatening to set records. (And not the good kind.)
Florida State in the first half against Tech: Five possessions, five touchdowns, 35 points, 403 yards, eight-for-eight on third down. Match that, Willie!
True, Tech played better in the second half: Only nine points and 136 yards yielded. And Tech did win 49-44, which beats the heck out of losing 45-19, which is what Georgia did against Tennessee. But still, a check of the numbers almost makes you long for the golden days of defensive excellence under Kevin Ramsey and Ted Roof.
- Total defense: UGA is 75th nationally and 11th in the SEC; Tech is 82nd nationally and 10th in the ACC.
- Scoring defense: UGA is 100th nationally and 12th in the SEC; Tech is 77th nationally and ninth in the ACC.
- Rushing defense: UGA is 53rd nationally and fourth in the SEC; Tech is 64th nationally and eighth in the ACC.
- Pass efficiency defense: UGA is 92nd nationally and 11th in the SEC; Tech is 108th nationally and 11th in the ACC.
Loading ...And there you have it: Tech is worse than Georgia in three of the four major defensive categories, and you’d have to concede that the Bulldogs have played a much tougher schedule. (Three of Georgia’s six opponents are ranked; only one of Tech’s six is.) So I guess what I’m saying is this:
Only is this state would let-receivers-run-free Willie look good by comparison.
And I’m also saying this: Tech and Georgia meet on Nov. 28. Bet the over.
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martinez-sucks
October 14th, 2009
12:12 pm
Wommack made adjustments at halftime and tech won the game. End of Discussion.
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
12:18 pm
Wommack made adjustments?
I’d like to believe that too and also in Santa Claus.
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
12:21 pm
In the second half, we finally blitzed.
We should have been blitzing from day one knowing we had lost 3 good D linemen.
The two point play failed because of an all out blitz that rushed the pass.
Ponder may have been taken by surprise too.
Dawgnshock
October 14th, 2009
12:21 pm
So True but Tech scored the most points. Maybe that tells us not only does our defense is bad but our offense is worst.
RAMBLE ON!!!
October 14th, 2009
12:21 pm
These statistics are all wrong. GT is the best team in college football!!!
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
12:23 pm
Well I finally made it to Mark’s blog on time.
I think the home field will help more than anything but in addition to D, we also have to worry about a mismatch of special teams coaches.
Has anyone ever studied VT to see what they do to block so many punts and FGs?
firemarkricht.net
October 14th, 2009
12:23 pm
That’s awesome! What would be even funnier to watch than their coaching schemes would be to watch Martinez and Wommack actually suit up and play D!
JP dwags fan
October 14th, 2009
12:25 pm
Willie has more blue chippers on D. Its talent that makes our D better than tech!
RDM
October 14th, 2009
12:27 pm
It’s comical how much smack the GT nerd nation has been talking this year when GT has yet to beat anyone good. They have just barely beaten some bad teams and got smoked against the only good team they played. Let’s see how they do against VT.
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
12:28 pm
I think home field, a lot of heart in Tech’s team and maybe Wommack got a clue against FSU give the Jackets a shot at an upset.
the real Old Gold
October 14th, 2009
12:29 pm
I think Georgia fans are rightly upset more so because Martinez has an undeniable talent pool to work with while Wommack is working with young talent during a defensive rebuilding season. Also, Georgia has seen this trend during the past 2 seasons and it looks to not be getting any better. This is just what I pick up from facebook rants and water cooler talk etc…
p.s. Also, there is less speculation around Wommack because he would be fired more easily since he never shared a room with Paul Johnson in college. Never hire friends or family.
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
12:31 pm
Hey we’re just happy.
Behave yourselves Dawg fans and I won’t point out Mark got out-coached by 1st year novice Lame Kitten.
Never would have believed that before the start of the season.
Army Vet
October 14th, 2009
12:32 pm
RDM……as a UGA grad, it’s comical how much whining and smack the UGA fans can talk.
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
12:35 pm
Thanks Army vet. You noticed that too.
Any Uga grad who tries to talk them out of firing everyone immediately can expect insults from the know it alls.
reasonable
October 14th, 2009
12:37 pm
Actually both are plenty bad but I have to say WM is worse because the talent level he has is better than GT. Also, given GT’s unique offense, its hard for GT defense to really practice against more traditional offenses. UGA really does not have this excuse, for example, in the Tennessee game. Another point is that we have an extended body of progressively worse defense under WM. The GT coordinator, by contrast, has only two years. One caution from a lifelong UGA fan to the folks at GT, however, continued bad defensive performances will not only end up costing you games that will drive you crazy. If the GT defensive coordinator stays too long without improvement, it will also drag your program down as the Head Coach fails to take the obvious action to replace him . Your $64 Thousand question is is PJ different in this regard from MR or will he follow in his footsteps and keep a non-performer around too long and bring on a crisis in his program?
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
12:38 pm
A new book on Korea – the war we refuse to study and learn from – by David Halberstam is a great read by the way. Found a veteran of the first battle where we learned to fight the Chinese who had been waiting 50 plus years to tell his story toward the end of book.
Post meant for Army Vet only.
Glenn
October 14th, 2009
12:38 pm
The difference? At least Dave Wommack TRIED to do something different to stop the bleeding Saturday and helped his team win. It may not have been pretty, but at least it helped. He’s also taking some responsibility for what’s going wrong and trying to make more adjustments rather than sitting on his hands and doing nothing. At least HE’s trying to fix HIS problem. That makes Martinez less defensive if you ask me.
Willie Martinez
October 14th, 2009
12:38 pm
Taught Dave W everything he knows!
old gold engineer
October 14th, 2009
12:39 pm
But how do the opposing offenses rank? I was very impressed with the Miami, Mississippi State, and Florida State offenses, and Clemson had some playmakers. Not sure if they looked so impressive because of GT’s defense or if they really are that potent.
M is a moron
October 14th, 2009
12:39 pm
I agree – if there is chanting for Slick Willie to go, the same should be said for Wommack. His defeneses are absolutely pathetic against mediocre teams. Wommack’s D better put up a good show the rest of the year or he needs to get canned. I also agree it is far more likely for CPJ to make a coaching change than CMR.
Heath
October 14th, 2009
12:39 pm
As a fellow Army Vet, it’s comical how many fellow army vets take every opportunity to let you know they are Army vets. Want a cookie, soldier?
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
12:40 pm
We think he’ll be fired by the end of year if no improvement but the home field may be partly behind any improvement.
Willie Martinez
October 14th, 2009
12:40 pm
I taught Dave W everything he knows!
Techies irrelevant
October 14th, 2009
12:41 pm
To show you how important Georgia Tech football is, I am a huge college football fan living in Georgia and had no idea who Tech’s defensive coordinator was.
Ed
October 14th, 2009
12:41 pm
OK, so there may actually be a worse defensive coach than WM out there, maybe even in the same state. He still needs to go. Since when did we accept Tech’s standards?
McDawg
October 14th, 2009
12:42 pm
Hello–smack is all fans can do since they don’t play the game
Heath
October 14th, 2009
12:43 pm
Right Said Ed.
Just because Tech’s D sucks worse than ours, doesn’t mean we should consider that an accomplishment. We play real teams, Bradley, our D needs to be much, much better than Tech’s.
PMC
October 14th, 2009
12:45 pm
Tech is rebuilding on defense. Martinez got a huge piece back in Jeff Owens.
Obviously they already changed up the defensive scheme at Tech so they are trying to work things out… but come on. They lost what 3 or 4 NFL players off that defensive front? Tech is rebuilding big time on defense. They weren’t going to be a great defensive team this year even though Tarrant is a massive upgrade and they still have Burnett. Derrick Morgan is a beast, but other than that they are lacking. Too early to blame Wommack.
Outside of Mark Richt no one has ever been happy with what Martinez has gotten out of his defense. Martinez was a bad hire from the jump.
BugKiller
October 14th, 2009
12:48 pm
Sorry, Mark, and stop me if you’ve heard his before, but you’re WRONG!!!
Martinez has the benefit of better talent, but has done far less with it.
He coaches supreme talent down.
EVERY YEAR under him, the Dawgs have given up more yards per game and more points per game.
Under Martinez, the Dawgs have given up 30 and 40 point games at a HISTORIC clip.
Let’s be honest, even with Blitzin’ Tenuta, the Bug defense was never great, so this new guy had less talent to work with and less to fall.
Under BVG, the Dawg defense was a top 10 defense in the NATION.
BVG was a Broyles Award Winner.
Martinez has taken filet minon and has made ground chuck out of it.
He is easily the worst DC in the HISTORY of Georgia Football.
THAT makes him the worst in the state.
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
12:48 pm
Maybe vets would like some appreciation for serving.
Most Americans just give lip service to supporting the military.
They have no idea of the sacrifice made especially in wars.
I’m reading up on Korea and Vietnam Wars.
The books I check out or always there waiting at the library if I want to check on something.
PMC
October 14th, 2009
12:48 pm
Outside of maybe 3 or 4 players in other words… no one on Tech’s defense would start anywhere else.
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
12:51 pm
Hey Dawg fans. The Tennessee blog awaits you at the Nashville or Knoxville papers. That won’t be much fun, will it now that Lame Kitten is your daddy
Army Vet
October 14th, 2009
12:52 pm
Heath…I apologize…I didn’t know I was supposed to clear my name/comments with you first.
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
12:53 pm
I agree WM is a very bad coordinator who deserves to be fired but doesn’t it get old saying that a hundred times a day.
Wolfman
October 14th, 2009
12:53 pm
Given that UGA has top 10 recruiting classes every year, UGA is terribly underperforming. You have to give Johnson and his coaches a few years to get the players for their system. Then you can judge! Tech still has a VERY young team.
BLUNL
October 14th, 2009
12:54 pm
In the 2nd half of the GT/FSU game, GT didn’t have to play catch-up. Ball-control was the O-strategy. That helped the D more than any of the coordinator’s wizardry. Our defense is horrific. We would be much better on D if we could just make the QB move his feet a bit.
buzz is wiser
October 14th, 2009
12:54 pm
Both are bad…I don’t know how long Martinez has been at UGA but Wommack was having serious defensive woes before they came to the flats.
wiley
October 14th, 2009
12:56 pm
FSU has a good offense….UT doesn’t. Martinez has numerous blue chip recruits on the defense….Wommack has two or three….is this really a question. GT has played way better offensive teams in MSU, and FSU. UGA has played LSU, AZ State, a UT offense that was anemic, and OK state who has failed to score points like they did last year. Lets compare numbers at the end of the year…Im willing to bet Tech has better numbers on offense and defense. Win the game…thats all that matters!
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
12:57 pm
I think what really gets Uga fans is Tech has the grit Uga’s teams used to have.
Also last year was as good a chance as they’ll get for a NC.
They realize it but CMR doesn’t.
Heath
October 14th, 2009
12:57 pm
Army Vet, if you’re going to ridicule others for their indulgences, you should be able to take some ribbing yourself. I take it you didn’t go through bqack when the Army was the real army. They’d have beaten that over sensitivity out of you.
Heath
October 14th, 2009
12:59 pm
And another thing, trying to get Tech fans to pat you on the head by jumping on Georgia fans is just pathetic. I take it you were a 70 series MOS?
Mark Bradley
October 14th, 2009
1:01 pm
I’d agree that Martinez probably has better talent overall. But Derrick Morgan and Morgan Burnett are big-timers.
Gordon
October 14th, 2009
1:01 pm
The interesting question isn’t who is worse. They are both bad. It is what are the head coaches going to do about it and when. We know the answer with Richt (do nothing unless forced to). What will CPJ do and when? He doesn’t strike me as someone who would put up with this very long, but only the other hand George O’Leary seemed to have endless patience with Ted Roof 10 years ago.
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
1:01 pm
Bobby Bowden and Mark Richt both have the same problem.
They’ve spoiled their fans and now those fan bases can no longer accept off years.
Kinda funny FSU, bully of the ACC, now 0-3 in conference play.
BIGBOY
October 14th, 2009
1:01 pm
GA/TECH score will be 51-48
Mark Bradley
October 14th, 2009
1:02 pm
Wasn’t 51-48 the final in the Jasper Sanks game?
Bryan G.
October 14th, 2009
1:03 pm
The difference is that Tech fans aren’t worried because they know that Paul Johnson will, at the end of the year, do what he can to fix his team.
Us UGA folks aren’t as confident that CMR has the stones to do what needs to be done.
Cuz
October 14th, 2009
1:03 pm
As a non-Army vet, I appreciate all veterans of the Armed Services.
GO AMERICANS!!!!!!
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
1:04 pm
Mark, Tech hasn’t blitzed much have we?
The 2 point after touch blitz seems almost like the first all out blitz of the year.
Mark Bradley
October 14th, 2009
1:05 pm
I didn’t notice GT blitzing much in Tallahassee. I didn’t notice GT covering any receivers, either.
TechFan
October 14th, 2009
1:06 pm
Oh how I miss the days of Jon Tenuda….but seriously, Womack is awful. He brings no pressure or fire to the defensive side of the ball. Tenuda would blitz all night and have quarterbacks begging for the sidelines by the end of the game. What used to be the saving grace of our team, our great defense, is now our biggest liability. Womack better teach his boys how to tackle and pass cover or we’re in for a long Saturday night against the Hokies. And as for comparing Martinez and Womack, it’s like comparing a hurricane and a tornado, neither one is a good thing and they both have a great way of messing things up.
Heath
October 14th, 2009
1:07 pm
Just messin with ya Army Vet. Now go get me some chem light batteries.
Cuz: Go Army! Sorry, I had to cheer when they beat Vandy. Vandy ot their once a mellenium bowl game. Now it’s the Black Knights turn.
Heath
October 14th, 2009
1:09 pm
Just messing with ya Army Vet. Now go get me some chem light batteries and a grid square.
Cuz: Go Army! I had to cheer when we beat Vandy. Sorry, they had their once a generation bowl game, now it’s the Black Knights turn.
Kennesaw Dawg
October 14th, 2009
1:09 pm
They both are lacking. I think Johnson will do something about his below-par performance problem. Don’t think Richt will do anything about his though. He seems content with it.
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
1:10 pm
Another thing: the FSU we played was a lot more motivated with the rally around the coach routine than the one BC beat. I think the rally around the coach bit put too much pressure on FSU in the 2nd half and caused a big 20 yard pass drop in the 4th qt.
collegeballfan
October 14th, 2009
1:10 pm
Maybe we could simply swap cordinators. You think?
The Tech problem on defense has been there since 1990, the last good defensive team at Tech. It is called talent level.
ContactBuzz
October 14th, 2009
1:12 pm
Wommack – 3 = Martinez
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
1:12 pm
The price for ex NFL coordinators has gone up with the success of Kiffen the dad at Tenn and with the two added coordinators at Miami.
DRC
October 14th, 2009
1:12 pm
Tech’s defense is awful! CPJ, please go get Ted Roof to straighten this mess out. I am afraid vt is going to shred our defense to pieces.
Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho
October 14th, 2009
1:13 pm
The only time Ga fans care about the GT defense is when we have to play them. The same should be said for the GT fans. These teams don’t as a rule play the same opponents so you are comparing apples to tractors. There is no way to compare, suffice it to say that both defenses have under achieved to this point and if neither gets better it’ll be a long season with a crap bowl for both. From a Ga fan standpoint, I think the only way for the Ga defense to get better is for the offense to keep them off the field, they play way too many plays and Ga’s time of possession is not good at all. Might possibly be as pathetic as our turnover ratio
1eyedJack
October 14th, 2009
1:13 pm
Georgia 100 Ga. Tech 99
Dan
October 14th, 2009
1:15 pm
Wommack doesn’t have the “track record” of suckage that Martinez has, and Tech is experiencing the hard way what defensive life is like when one loses three NFL-caliber d-line starters in one fell swoop; it makes it difficult to stop the run game, and life for the LBs and secondary is horrid when newbie d-linemen aren’t applying pressure on the QB. (That said, Wommack should be relieved of duties if things aren’t significantly better in 2010.)
Comparing the Volunteer offense and quarterback to the Seminole offense and quarterback is nuts. The Seminoles are better offensively (and worlds worse, defensively).
Corrine Brown
October 14th, 2009
1:15 pm
Dave & Willie,that’ a winning quiniela if I ever saw one!!
Give me $100 on it
ApopkaDawg
October 14th, 2009
1:16 pm
Willie’s Resume:
I want the entire Bulldog nation to realize what a galatically stupid mistake it was to name Willie Martinez as our D-Coordinator back in 2005. This is Willie’s resume before coming to UGA as our D-Backs coach.
Just a quick resume review:
Grand Valley State (Def. Coord. / Def. Backs)
1992 went 8-3; gave up 45 to Indiana
1993 went 6-3-2; gave up 34 to Indiana, 38 to Hillsdale
Central Michigan (D-Backs)
1994 went 9-3; gave up 52 to Iowa, 52 to Las Vegs, NV
Central Florida (D-Coord / D-Backs)
1995 went 4-7; gave up 34 to E. Michigan, 48 to W. Michigan
1996 went 5-6; gave up 55 to Virgina, 46 to Miami (OH), 51 to Kent St.
Eastern Michigan (D-Backs)
1997 went 4-7; gave up 44 to Missouri, 38 to Toledo, 41 to Kent St., 47 to Ohio, 48 to Marshall, 41 to W. Michigan
Central Michigan (D-Backs) (2000 became Asst Head Coach / D-Coord)
1998 went 6-5; gave up 38 to Iowa, 38 to W Michigan
1999 went 4-7; gave up 47 to Syracuse, 58 to Purdue, 38 to W. Michigan, 31 to Bowling Green, 32 to Toledo
2000 went 2-9; gave up 48 to Purdue, 31 to Wyoming, 47 to Boise St., 41 to Toledo, 52 to Ohio, 38 to Ball St., 31 to E Michigan, 40 to N. Illinois
Every Bulldog fan should be asking the same questions:
“ARE YOU FREAKIN KIDDING ME??”
Gordon
October 14th, 2009
1:16 pm
DRC, you must be a young person. We were awful on defense when Roof was our coordinator. If we hadn’t had Ralph Friedgen as our offensive coordinator, we would never have won a game. I’m sure Roof is better now, but there must be someone better than that available.
Roof as a player was a completely different story. He played on the ‘85 Black Watch defense that was one of our best ever.
GTPUG
October 14th, 2009
1:16 pm
Mark,
First please understand that in the 1st half against FSU the Tech offense scored on the first or second play everytime they had the ball – meaning the defense was on the field for about 26 minutes and did not have enough time adjust to what FSU was doing – - at half the adjustments were made and you know the rest
The differnce between the 2 coaches – - players react to Wommack and the players do not react to Martinez
The Better coach by far is Wommack
TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!!!!!
Heath
October 14th, 2009
1:18 pm
Just messing with you Army Vet. Now go get me a box of grid quares and some chem light battieries.
Cuz: Go Black Knights! Vandy got their once a generation bowl game, now it’s our turn!
JB
October 14th, 2009
1:18 pm
And that’s why Johnson will be JUST LIKE RICHT. Win on a fairly good basis but never be able to put the whole package together. ONE DIFFERENCE. Johnson will not sit by for 4 or 5 years and watch it get worse and give lip service that we’re almost there and boy, what a long plane ride we had to make and you know we’ve got 6 hurt and 8 suspended and and and and and and and……… this scheme HAS ALWAYS WORKED, WE’VE GOT TO GET TO WORK and and and and and…….GEEZ
gte268p
October 14th, 2009
1:19 pm
I believe another key stat would be turnovers forced. Tech would easily lead in that category and even out the comparison a bit more.
Statue for CPJ
October 14th, 2009
1:20 pm
Bradley, liked the caption under the pic: “Tech’s Dave Wommack: Whistling past the graveyard?”
Harsh, but fitting.
Mike S
October 14th, 2009
1:20 pm
Martinez has the better talent by far, that makes him the worse coach by far.
Wommack’s D has been dismal, but Martinez’ D is downright pathetic.
I have noticed a key point that ties the two together — both fan bases are complaining about the lack of BLITZING on both the GT and UGA D’s.
Compare that to the top Defences in the nation – LSU, Alabama, Florida have some type of stunt or Blitz package on almost evey single down. Make the opposing QB make quick decisions and they will make mistakes.
reebok
October 14th, 2009
1:21 pm
Tech’s defense is better than Georgia’s (but only slightly) for 2 reasons…we make adjustments during the games that SOMETIMES help, and we force turnovers. But yeah, both D’s are BAD.
Gordon
October 14th, 2009
1:21 pm
GTPUG,
What are the excuses for Wommack against UGA (42 points), LSU (38 points), Miami (33 points) and Mississippi State (31 points)? At some point you have to admit we have a problem. Not doing that is what is costing UGA. It is premature to be getting rid of Wommack, but he should be put on the clock now.
Dawg Fud
October 14th, 2009
1:23 pm
Martinez is less defensive. His body of work speaks for itself…complete crap.
JB
October 14th, 2009
1:23 pm
APOPKADAWG…………………………Good research……do think Meyer or Saban sitting in their office 5 years ago and picking up the phone and calling this guy to interview after reading that. Hell, no SEC team would.
Heat
October 14th, 2009
1:23 pm
Just messing with you Army Vet. Now go get me a box of grid squares and a chem light battery.
Cuz: Go Black Knights! Vandy got their once a generation bowl game, now it’s our turn.
Sad to say, Martinez is going nowhere. Richt is a bigger apologist for him than Bradley.
PMC
October 14th, 2009
1:24 pm
CPJ has already addressed it and is working to fix it. FSU has a potentially very good offense and they had to have that win last week. Thanks to Nesbitt they pulled it out. CMR has almost ignored the issues around CWM and let this thing fester. Tech isn’t really missing Tenuda who consistantly put them in bad spots by leaving his secondary out to dry (see NC State and VA Tech thursday night losses) Georgia has been virtually lost since BVG left. No, beating down an entirely overmatched Hawaii team in the sugar bowl is not impressive.
DiamondJim
October 14th, 2009
1:26 pm
Equally Bad
FSU and Miami play UGA
LSU and UT play GT
then we could measure each other better
FSU defense is worst, they let the other team score fast to wear out the other teams defense
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
1:26 pm
I don’t buy GT Pug’s argument.
But if it is correct then a smart D coordiantor with this offense would have his team do a lot of windsprints so they could handle the work.
But in the 1st half.
5 straight TD drives.
I don’t agree.
I could argue FSU got tired from running up and down the field by the 2nd half.
I think the home field will be the deciding factor and Tech’s heart vs VT.
Chris
October 14th, 2009
1:27 pm
Martinez wasn’t that bad in ‘05. I’d like to see the numbers the same players would put up with a purported expert like Bud Foster or Van Gorder.
Still, he’ll probably be gone at the end of the season on some kind of ‘mutual decision’ if only for the sake of change and all the people in the village of Atlanta carrying their torches to Athens.
Slide Rule
October 14th, 2009
1:28 pm
Wommack has experimented with schemes to get matchups for the opponent they are playing. With young players, that has obviously been confusing. Tech has one senior on defense and is now starting a number of freshmen. A big letdown was Cooper Taylor’s heart problem and subsequent surgery. That’s Morgan Burnett’s partner at safety. 6′4″, 210 lb, sub-4.4 40 speed. One thing Wommack showed in the FSU game was the ability to make adjustments. The 2nd half was a vast improvement.
Wommack has a lengthy resume, but compared to all of the other staff members’ excellent resumes, even the grad assistants, it seems that he was an unusual choice for DC. But that’s just reading the words; don’t know the full story.
Don’t know much about Martinez. It seems he has had a real dropoff after the first two years. That would seem to indicate problem in coaching up the new guys.
GaDawg
October 14th, 2009
1:28 pm
Isn’t WM 7-1 anginst Yeck! nuff said
JB
October 14th, 2009
1:28 pm
IF i’m hired at William and Mary, I don’t interview Matinez , because of his body of work. You really need to take away his first year or two to get the real picture. He had Van Gorder’s players and they remembered his coaching
Blue Fox
October 14th, 2009
1:30 pm
Never thought I’d say it, but BRING BACK TED ROOD AND THE BLACK WATCH DEFENSE!!!
GaDawg
October 14th, 2009
1:31 pm
Isn’t WM 7-1 against Yeck, nuff said
JB
October 14th, 2009
1:34 pm
Best line on a blog by a Dawg fan since the beat down in Knoxville. I’m watching a 42 inch LCD HD, but hell, I’m going to have to get a bigger TV to see our Defensive backs in the picture. Classic…………………………….AND sadly true.
Jim Buzzman
October 14th, 2009
1:35 pm
The talk before the season was that Tech had one of the best defensive backfields in the country. I take that to mean a high level of talent. Now I know the jackets have not put pressure on opposing quarterbacks like in the past but the level of execution this year from the backfield has been much worse than it should be. That obviously has something to do with Dave Wommack’s defensive scheme and game plans and not the level of talent. He has not been able to adjust to correct the problems so far either. Florida State dropped three passes in the second half last Saturday, DM did not adjust well.
GTcoaches
October 14th, 2009
1:35 pm
Wow! I didn’t think we are that bad. That’s it Wommack has to clean out his locker at year’s end. Unless we see dramatic improvements over the next 6 games.
Jackets2009
October 14th, 2009
1:38 pm
What’s really funny is that all the vicious blog remarks against Lane Kiffen didn’t do Uga a bit of good.
Maybe a Tennessee fan copied them and put them on the bulliten board as a motivator.
I can understand you guys will be in a foul mood this week.
Kiffen was loud last season and not likely to shut up now.
EW
October 14th, 2009
1:38 pm
I am starting to think Willie might be a good coach and our players are too dumb to understand. I mean, the guy is a Division I football coach. I don’t buy that he doesn’t understand defenses enough to make better calls. Our guys aren’t doing it, end of story. All the pieces are in place, we arent’ executing. No injury excuses this year, we have a strong D line and tons of talent in the secondary. But our D doesn’t play as a team.
Tech on the other hand…lost the most important part of its defense from last year, the line. No surprise that they have struggled. Pass Defense and Rush Defense all start with what’s going on up front. You can’t stop the pass if you can’t rush and you can’t stop the run if you get pushed back. Tech’s D plays better as a unit, albeit with less athletic talent than UGA. Overall, both defenses are bad.
JB
October 14th, 2009
1:39 pm
GT coach’s……………………I know that is tongue and cheek…..but Willie has been in a THREE YEAR SLIDE and the Chickens have come home to roost this year.
DiamondJim
October 14th, 2009
1:39 pm
JB posted “Best line on a blog by a Dawg fan since the beat down in Knoxville. I’m watching a 42 inch LCD HD, but hell, I’m going to have to get a bigger TV to see our Defensive backs in the picture. Classic…………………………….AND sadly true.”
Good one JB
Army Vet
October 14th, 2009
1:39 pm
Heath….no, I was a 31A. Graduated from OCS in April 1982….the real Army. Was Airborne/Air Assault and served at Fort Campbell and Frankfurt, Germany. So you can take your candy a$$ and go blow yourself. If you can’t take the fact that your beloved dawgs suck then you need to face reality. Face it…UGA will suffer at the hands of UF, AU, and GT….maybe from UK and Vandy. And with all the smack from UGA fans like yourself….makes it that more enjoyable. See you after the game Saturday.
SWBUZZMAN
October 14th, 2009
1:41 pm
RDM, what is more funny is that UgaG got beat by the only two good teams they played, smoked by a terrible UT team, and barely escaped the other three, also against bad teams.
Slide Rule
October 14th, 2009
1:43 pm
Speaking of bad defenses, I watched the Miami-FSU game a few weeks ago. From the pass coverage, it looked like both defenses had only 9 guys on the field. Miami won that game in the last minute when an FSU receiver couldn’t handle a low short pass in the end zone.
I’ll add that part of Georgia’s and Tech’s problems has been the repeated inability to tackle, really fundamental stuff.
GT Alum
October 14th, 2009
1:43 pm
Georgia Tech did not blitz more in the second half. They rotated line positions and personnel to get different looks. The blitz count was about the same. If you think about it, the defense was probably tired since both FSU and GT scored at will. FSU ran 45 plays to GT’s 23. Tech never held the ball to give the defense rest until the 3rd quarter. And that was about the same time the defense woke up and stopped FSU twice.
Will
October 14th, 2009
1:44 pm
I’m serious when I ask this…… Will Valdosta High School please make a run at Willie Martinez! Please!
EW
October 14th, 2009
1:45 pm
Heath…here’s YOUR cookie
JB
October 14th, 2009
1:46 pm
Dawg fans………Monday will be a good day to blog…….will not be many Tech “Elitist” around.
Gadawgfan
October 14th, 2009
1:47 pm
You mean Martinez is still around after that Beatdown last Saturday? Un-beliveable!!