Bradley’s Buzz: Are the Braves the team to beat in 2010?
Expect three of these jerseys to remain filled next season. (AJC photo by Curtis Compton)
They finished the season on a six-game losing streak and wound up third in the division, but ESPN.com’s Insiders sees the Braves as perhaps the NL East favorite in 2010. (Link requires registration.) Insiders quotes one unnamed “longtime NL scout” as saying, “That’s a team that has the pitching to run down the Phillies next year.”
More from Insiders Buster Olney and Shawn Hoffman:
“Atlanta needs a bopper. It’s maybe the one missing ingredient. The Braves appear poised for a breakthrough season, in what Cox says will be his last year as the team’s manager. Atlanta is flush with starting pitching, from Javier Vazquez to Tommy Hanson, and has some excellent young prospects expected to rise into the major leagues — outfielder Jason Heyward, most notably. A 20-year-old slugger with exceptional plate discipline, Heyward reminded his Double-A manager of Darryl Strawberry. Atlanta is expected by rival GMs to be very aggressive in its search for a right-handed hitter, whether it be a left or right fielder or a first or third baseman …
“Atlanta is abuzz with word that the Braves will take aim at a big right-handed bat. How about Dan Uggla or even Miguel Tejada? Outfield offers big targets like Matt Holliday and Jason Bay, but you’d think the Braves would stay cheaper. Hello, Gary Sheffield? We’ll see, but a bat is surely in the equation …
“All things considered, 2009 was a massive improvement on 2008, and they could easily be the favorites to win the NL East going into 2010 if they can improve in a couple of spots. The outfield, for one, wouldn’t be a bad place to start; Garret Anderson … leaves a lot to be desired, and the Braves would be hard-pressed to find someone who will give them less value in left field next year. As for right field, 2010 will likely be the start of the Jason Heyward era in Atlanta, which should give them a boost over this year’s Jeff Francoeur/Ryan Church/Matt Diaz triumvirate. If the rotation can hold some of its gains, and Chipper Jones can at least maintain his current level, the Braves could be very, very tough.”
OK, my two cents. Don’t really see where Tejada or Uggla would play here. Don’t really think the Braves could afford Holliday or Bay. Don’t really think Sheffield is an answer. (Tried that already, didn’t they?) Do think the Braves are positioned to win the division next year, but I think a key to the offseason now becomes what to do about the guy who finished 2009 at first base. And so …
Also today: What should the Braves do with Adam LaRoche?
And then: Why the Braves must keep Greg Norton at all costs!
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Josh
October 6th, 2009
1:07 am
Keep LaRoche and bring up Heyward.
Rotation next year should be Vasquez, Jurrjens, Hanson, Lowe, Hudson.
Those changes alone set us apart.
atl fan
October 6th, 2009
1:25 am
We have to keep LaRoche. I Like what he brings to the table. Besides he was a baby brave.
Braves2010
October 6th, 2009
1:28 am
I agree with Josh. But I’ll have to add this: fortify the bench (let’s say good-bye to Norton), and keep both Gonzalez and Soriano.
atl fan
October 6th, 2009
1:28 am
Bring up heyward. and sign one superfast guy and we will go to the series. Maybe trade a starter for a juan pierre type player
Tejada....
October 6th, 2009
1:50 am
…is getting up there in age and we already have Yunel Escobar and Sheffield probably only has a few years left. And going on the speed topic how about making a run at Dexter Fowler in Colorado although i doubt they would be willing to trade him.
Phil
October 6th, 2009
1:53 am
Of the players mentioned in the article, only Uggla makes a little sense but I think it would still be hard to trade in division. I’m jut hoping they dont trade Vazquez for the big right handed bopper.
ccrider
October 6th, 2009
2:00 am
If the Braves can trade Derek Lowe, the Team should resign Laroche, but only for 2 years. Freddie Freeman will be ready by 2011 and doesn’t need to be blocked. In addition, they should look at Xavier Nady and Mike Cameron on 1 year contracts. Nady can play Rightfield until Heyward comes up in June(The Braves will leave him at AAA so he doesn’t become a Super2 player like they did Hanson this Year) Diaz in Leftfield, Cameron in a platoon in Centerfield with McLouth. Nady and Cameron would add 2 RH hitters with 20+ HR power.
shayne Light
October 6th, 2009
2:02 am
I think the Braves are The team to beat if they keep LaRoche! Bring up Heyward to play right field, and Jordan S. to play left. Diaz can be the fourth outfielder. Prado can be the starter at second and play third when Chipper is not in the line up. Kelly johnson can be a fifth outfielder and back up second when prado plays third base ( which will be about 60 to 100 games).
If the Braves are serious about a run at a title, they need to trade Chipper. I hate to say it but he is old, very injury prone, and half the player be used to be. Maybe try and package Chipper, Lowe, and 2 prospects for A-Rod or a Roy Holliday.
brian pipes
October 6th, 2009
2:15 am
Enter your comments here Question for you Mark. Who was the player that was drafted by Atlanta and played QB for Oregon or Oregon State and where is he now? I thought that he was highly thought of.
Ostrich Racer
October 6th, 2009
2:19 am
I’ve always thought Cody Ross do well in Atlanta. Not the biggest bopper, but I think he had 25 or so this year, and he can field. He’s under contract, and the Marlins have a younger guy they like in center.
Coach (2010- Mr. Overrated retires)
October 6th, 2009
2:44 am
Well, one of the six starters is gone, that we know. Which one is anybody’s guess. Trade is the key word here when and if the Braves acquire a bat. The connection between trading one starter and getting that big right handed bat has to be made.
Chipper has already reiterated the obvious, LaRoche has to be resigned. Ditto For either Soriano and or Gonzo. Bringing both back would be nice but there are budget concerns.
The 800 pound Elephant in the blog is the outfield. It’s a mess and has been for two years running. McLouth and Diaz are a start. Will Schafer and Heyward contribute? Youth, defense and speed are key words to live by if it is to be improved upon.
I have two names for Frank Wren, one of which I screamed for last year: Nelson Cruz. Would the Rangers part with the young slugger for a pitcher? I don’t know but it won’t hurt to ask.
The other is a sleeper and a big one in a mighty might sort of way. Luis Durango. The dude is lightning in a bottle. No power, all legs and one of the fastest players to hit the big leagues in years. He’s Otis Nixon reborn. Pure blazing destruction on the base paths which can only help our Braves anemic running game. The Padres have a glut of young talented outfielders and no room for the lead off hitter. His key career stat: 232 walks against 193 K’s just screams big league. Not to mention his two minor league batting championships or career .422 OBP. Opportunity is knocking, will Frank Wren answer the door?
Adding a couple of reliable middle relief arms won’t hurt either. The Twins Jose Mijares is in his managers doghouse. His 2.34 ERA in 70 appearances equals opportunity……again.
jhbama10
October 6th, 2009
3:16 am
Are some of you off your rockers? Remember that we are talking about the Braves here. We don’t throw money at free agents (except pitchers). We will have to trade young talent for a proven, yet questionable, hitter. Laroche is a guy who would be a smart resign in the sense that he wants to stay and that he already gets our team concept and has bought in to it long ago. But when have we ever resign relief talent. It seems that we also manage to let our RPs go and replace them with capable talent.
We should add a power bat to left field. Resign Laroche to play first. Let Heyward have his shot (providing he has a good fall league) and have Infante sub in whenever Chipper is too acky to go.
bobby c
October 6th, 2009
3:44 am
lineup:
1. mclouth cf
2. prado 2b
3. chipper 3b
4. uggla Lf (it’s doable)
5. b mac C
6. escobar ss
7. laroche 1b
8. heyward rf
9. pitcher
this plus our rotation equals some diamond tomahawks for our braves
BravesAreDone
October 6th, 2009
4:22 am
If they trade Javier it could be another long season with no playoffs…can’t let your top pitcher go and be left with back three of Hudson, Lowe and KK…just don’t see that working out very well.
Gotta get a bat or two and keep the main pitchers…would love to see Lowe clear his locker out and never return.
#1 braves fan
October 6th, 2009
5:41 am
DAN UGGLA WOULD BE A GOOD FIT. LEAVE VASQUEZ ALONE, HE DESERVES TO BE HERE! WE ARE CLIMBING THE LADDER ONE STEP AT A TIME.. ITS TIME TO GET TO THE TOP.AT LEAST WE DIDNT LOOSE 100 GAMES. CHIPPER NEEDS TO HIT AT LEAST 300 WITH 25 DINGERS..
NCBravesFan
October 6th, 2009
6:10 am
I think they should re-sign LaRoche and leave it at that for now. Heyward may be ready for RF already and Schafer was hitting the cover off the ball until he injured his wrist – if he’s fully recovered by March, give him a shot at CF and move Nate to LF.
The Braves were just fine after they dealt Francouer and inserted Martin at 2B. They just need a little more pop and a little more consistency at the top of the lineup to make this thing take off.
MitchC
October 6th, 2009
6:18 am
Mark, As for the Braves being the “team to beat”. That remains to be seen. We had a very good season in 2009, that ended on a sour note.
As we know, one of our six starters needs to go. I personally hope we trade Derek Lowe. He;s getting on in years, and did not have a good 2009. I again say that to trade Javy Vazquez would be a huge, huge blunder. He’s much younger than Lowe, and has more of an upside. After intially not that Tim Hudson would be re signed, I now think the Braves will come to some kind of deal with him. He may take a big discount to remain here.
Also imperative is to re sign Laroche. I say give him two years, with a team option for a third, with a cheap buyout, if Freddie Freeman is ready by 2012. We need Laroche’s power.
There is no reason this team can’t win 90 games, and snare at least a wild card in 2010. As for whether we can take the division from the Phillies, that remains to be seen.
TommyP
October 6th, 2009
6:45 am
How can you be the team to beat when you just lost 6 straight to blow the playoffs and haven’t corrected any of your holes?
Let’s wait ’til Wren makes some moves to determine if we’re the team to beat.
No way we go into the season with all of these starters, though. Hudson or Vazquez is out.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
October 6th, 2009
6:52 am
Brian,
Dennis Dickson is the young man from Oregon, but I am not for sure where he is at now. I thought he was a pitcher but I am unsure.
Laroche needs resigned I agree. The bat needs to come from somewhere but not any of what ESPN speculated. Sheffield really? He’s like 41-42? And you pay for that mess?
Larry
October 6th, 2009
7:15 am
Mark,
You have returned to being a goober after you finally had the courage to discuss Bobby Cox. Did you see how this Bobby Cox team finished off the season? 0-7!
So, the Braves management caves in to pity and sympathy and now we have to watch this lackadaisical effort and horribly managed team another year and you ask if this is the team to beat? Hilarious! This decision to waste another year on dwindling crowds and lost enthusiasm is why after 19 season as a season ticket holder (Hank Aaron section, right behind the plate) that I have elected to not renew for 2010. I’ll spend my $10,000 where I can enjoy it rather than, like this year, giving all but 2-3 games away so I am not angry with the dumb decisions, bored completely out of my mind with the hackers and slackers, and eager to leave by the 7th inning knowing that Bobby hasn’t a clue how to manage a close game.
As exemplified by the last 7 games of this regular season, his mismanagement of players from April – June, and his 1-14 record in the last game of the postseason, let me say it just one more time:
“In the end
it will not matter
with Bobby Cox
as the Manager”
Larry (Author of the 1-14 last game postseason record record that Mark fails to comprehend or recognize as a real stat–just like the stat of W/L record of the opening game of a season. Everything is a stat in baseball!)
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
October 6th, 2009
7:15 am
20th
ppaddy123
October 6th, 2009
7:18 am
LaRoche will start the year hitting .230 with very little power and we’ll all say in unison…….What were the Braves thinking? The guy is a TERRIBLE 1st half ball player. HE’S ALWAYS BEEN SLOW OUT THE GATE! The problem is; there’s really no better options AVAILABLE for The Braves. We can throw Freeman’s name around but the guy hasn’t played 1 inning in the majors. Right now he’s just WISHFUL THINKING. The moves Frank Wren made last year made the 2009 Braves BETTER! I expect he’ll do the same for the 2010 Braves.
Bill
October 6th, 2009
7:25 am
Enter your comments here— I think the Braves should bring in Heyward and maybe platoon him early with Diaz, the right handed hitter I would go after is Mark DaRosa (he can play multiple positions and has good right handed power plus he loves Atlanta). I would keep Judson maybe try to sign he and Vasques for 2 or 3 years to keep the rotation really solid.
The braves will need to address the closer role (maybe Moylan), but other than O’…..flarety and Medlin they are really thin. Could they trade Lowe to the Red Sox for two young pitchers that maybe could start in the pen ??
rhynster
October 6th, 2009
7:30 am
You’re fooling yourselves if you think Vazquez will be anything like he was this year in 2010.
Also, LaRoche had his typical second half explosion. But let’s see how much you all like him when he’s hitting .240 through June. If he doesn’t come cheap, he needs to go.
Trade Vazquez while his value is at his career peak. Use him to get a LF or 1B.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
October 6th, 2009
7:38 am
Agree rhynster, Vazquez has never pitched like he did this year. And can’t be counted on to do it again. LaRoche will not hit .240 in the first half and to add, there is not a night in and night out closer on this team. Gonzo and Soriano can’t go back to back nights and be effective.
79
October 6th, 2009
7:47 am
Mark,
Please stop writing these “sports-only” columns. Don’t you know that readers come here to read political snark. I am not interested in your opinion about the Braves. I read the AJC sports page because I want to know what I should think about government run healthcare….and make it “edgy”, too……like Shultz does….
dozer
October 6th, 2009
7:47 am
Random thoughts here:
1. Before we get carried away, remember that this team finished THIRD in the division – never sniffed the Phillies
2. They only took off after the Reds home sweep & the pressure was off – once they got close again they showed who they really were
3. Chipper is breaking down – if you think he’s good for more than 120 games you’re kidding yourself
4. Lost 7 in a row to finish – nice heart
5. LaRouche was in a contract drive – beware
All things considered – not a bad improvement – they still need another quantum leap to contend.
Tom
October 6th, 2009
7:50 am
The team to beat? LOL. That’s pretty comical when you consider the Phillies will be even better next year when they get their bullpen back end straightened out, plus have some stud prospect pitchers ready to go. And then there’s the Mets, who were only where they were this year due to the amazingly bad string of luck they had with injuries. And you KNOW they have the cash to at least TRY to fix what’s broken, not that that guarantees anything. Another third place finish again next year.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
October 6th, 2009
7:52 am
Dan Uggla? No thanks. There are other 30 h.r. hitters that can hit over .250 and can play outfield.
collegeballfan
October 6th, 2009
7:57 am
Braves tried bringing up a youngster for center this year and it did not work. Probably won’t work next year either. Players are ready for the majors when they are ready, not when the major league club is ready.
The Braves have 6 starting pitchers. Trade one for the right hand bat.
Ward
October 6th, 2009
8:02 am
Enter your comments here
1.Lowe out, even if we pay portions of his salary-keep KK, Vas.,JJ,Huddie and, of course, Hanson. 2.Heyward right field 3.Diaz and leftie bopper in leftfield 3.keep infield as it is right now 4.Norton, Kelly out 5. Keep Infante, Ross 6. Teach Nate how to drag bunt this winter 7. request Bobby work the stolen base agenda and 8. Whoever is in bullpen don’t make them work 85-90 games!!!
Bubba
October 6th, 2009
8:12 am
Why does everyone continually diss Diaz–he’s proven he can hit, run, and play a decent outfield. Put him in left and let him play! Use others (Schaffer) to platoon with him not the reverse. I agree with the DeRosa comment–always been one of my favorites and hoped we would get him this year for the supposed run.
Rodney
October 6th, 2009
8:27 am
Phillies are thr team to beat in the N.L East.
A full year of Cliff Lee….a rejuvinated Cole Hamels….not to mention the young stud Kyle Drabek.
The Phillies won 93 games with 11 blown saves and still tanked at the end of the season. With a healthy bullpen and full year of Lee, theres no reason to believe Philly wont push 100 wins next year.
Are the Braves a 100 win team?…..time will tell but I have my doubts. Javier Vazques had a career year las year…will he repeat that?….will Hanson suffer the all-too common sophomore slump when his innings increase?
Phillies are clearly team to beat until they are beaten
Jan Spiro
October 6th, 2009
8:34 am
Enter your comments here The Phillies have better players at every starting postion exept catcher. That includes 3rd base where Feliz had a better year than Chipper Jones. The pitching is very close. Beat them first, then talk.
All I'm Saying Is...
October 6th, 2009
8:44 am
2009 is over and its time to spend some money in order to make a run in 2010.
1. Keep Vasquez
2. Pick-up Hudson’s option.
3. Keep LaRoche
4. Sign Jason Bay
You can never have too much pitching and trading Vasquez for a bat would be a stupid move plus who knows how Hudson’s arm will play out over a full season.
Re-sign Hudson as he wants to stay here.
Bay is a good character and clubhouse guy, has played in the AL and NL (with Pirates and LaRoche), and would solidify one outfield spot. Let Diaz have the other and bring Heyward up middle of next year after a half season at AAA.
See what McLouth can do from the start hitting in the Braves line-up and bring Schafer up if he’s healthy to get some spot duty.
As much as I love him, let GA walk (he did what we asked him to do) and I don’t really see Church in our future beyond 2010.
Frank needs to tell Cox that Prado is his second baseman and if anyone is moving to the outfield, its Kelly Johnson.
Keep Infante and please for the love of all that is holy, let Norton walk.
With Nate, Prado, Escobar, Chipper, McCann, Bay, Diaz, and LaRoche, we would have a formidable lineup with a bunch of contact hitters and enough power to put a hurtin’ on the NL.
Contrary to most, I like our bullpen with Gonzo and Soriano and Moylan. BC simply needs to make his starters give us seven innings.
LET’S GO BRAVES!
Charlie
October 6th, 2009
8:45 am
Mark,
One theory I’ve heard is that the Braves might swap Lowe with a team that has an expendable big contract hitter. Who fits that description?
JB Wright
October 6th, 2009
8:46 am
To answer your headline:
With Bobby Cox in the dugout, if the Braves make the post-season in 2010, then YES, they will be BEAT. I’d bet the farm on Cox screwing it up.
Bill
October 6th, 2009
8:48 am
With our pitching we are only a couple of good bats away from a run at the playoffs but I doubt this will happen with Cox in the dugout. I think we also need a strong reliever but not too many to choose from at this time. Cox has already said that KJ needs another chance but hopefully Wren will make the decision and not resign KJ. We will probably have another Norton/Corky Miller guy on the team next year that Cox will keep on going to, no matter what. No matter who we sign the make up and attitude of the team will not change until we get a new mgr. I am not a Cox hater but its time for a change. There will be more dumb decisions next year and we will end up short by a few games once again. No doubt in my mind that Cox will cost us 8-12 games a year. Cox is more concerned about keeping the ship happy and being professional than winning ball games.
abtoal
October 6th, 2009
8:51 am
Mark,
Team to beat? Are you serious? The won’t win another division with Bobby Cox as manager. The last game of the season summed up his entire managing career:
No sense of urgency, mismanagement of the bullpen, mismanagement of substitutions, playing for the home run (their only run) and never playing for just the one run that they need. All of that summed up to not beating the teams we were supposed to beat. He should have retired that day. I couldn’t think of a more fitting way for him to go out and retire.
randyarnold
October 6th, 2009
8:56 am
Resign LaRoche. Resign Soriano. There is a need for right-handed power, but an outfield of Schafer, McLouth and Heyward isn’t bad, if you could only teach Bobby Cox this isn’t an American League team in the ’60s. Playing small ball is the way to go.
If anything, the Braves need to work a package for a left-handed starter.
Herschel Talker
October 6th, 2009
9:03 am
MB: Until it is determined what happens to LaRoche, who ends up being the big bopper in the lineup, and what pitcher is traded away to make room for the big bopper, this column is absurdly premature. It’s also absurd considering the Phillies are division champs 3 years running. This column smacks of being a blind homer, something you are usually not.
Joey
October 6th, 2009
9:03 am
Did anyone read Carroll Rogers report this morning? Bobby says they may move Prado to right field, so Kelly Johnson can get another shot at second. He says, “we can’t just give up on Kelly ….” Next he will want to give Norton a try in left. Unbelievable – almost makes you to forget about 2010 altogether and wait for Bobby and his boys to get gone!
Bob Horner
October 6th, 2009
9:08 am
Yeah, great idea on Sheffield – a 40 year old has-been. Or Uggla, a guy who uppercuts at everything trying to hit it out, and finishes the year at .240. Tejada is a former roider who is also past his prime.
Why can’t we go after big Adam Dunn and run him out in left field?
We need a true bopper, not some past-his-prime goofball, or some munchkin 2nd baseman.
jadarm
October 6th, 2009
9:11 am
Dunn…probably about it!
Chazs
October 6th, 2009
9:12 am
Everyone is forgetting about Schaefer. He will be in the mix.
If the Braves can sign LaRoche, they can make a run in the second half.
But I worry about the bullpen, and how Bobby pulls the trigger.
Best guess Braves 2nd, and not the wild card.
VaBravesfan
October 6th, 2009
9:17 am
Joey, I did read that column. I had hoped that Kelly Johnson would be the first to leave. It IS unbelievable.
ppaddy123
October 6th, 2009
9:20 am
I REALLY WISH some of you guys would take your “Reality Pills” Ask yourselves this: how much did Soriano and Gonzolez make combined? Were either of them better than Moylan down the stretch? I think Moylan moves into the closer’s role next year. He saves the Braves a ton of money AND BALL GAMES!I think the Braves will try to re-structure the contracts of Hudson and Vasquez. I think if Lowe gets moved it won’t be a “mega trade” It will probably be a deal for each guy to get a “new start”
Jason Bay will not sign with the Braves. Matt Holliday will not sign with the Braves. We have a starting center fielder that can’t hit a Turner Field. Matt Diaz has shown EVERYONE he’s an everyday player. Bobby Cox is out of his freaking mind to think of moving Prado to RF in an effort to get Kelly Johnson into the game a 2nd. Newsflash Bobby, KJ SUCKS AT 2nd! He can, however, play LF. Bobby, Hide him out there if you’re so intent on getting KJ some regular at-bats. I wonder how much Marlon Byrd will be pursued this off-season? He can play CF and it gives the Braves an additional very affordable “trade piece”
Mark Bradley
October 6th, 2009
9:20 am
I’m not sure that Bobby Cox’s view of Kelly Johnson reflects upper management’s.
Alan
October 6th, 2009
9:25 am
I would try to sign LaRoche, but I’m afraid there’ll be a bidding war and the Braves will drop out. In that case, I’d move Chipper to 1B (he hurt the team at 3B this year) and move Prado to 3B and Infante to 2B. KJ, Church and Norton are history — the first two because they’re too expensive for bench players and the last because he had a horrible season. The biggest need is a RH power hitter. Bay or Holliday would be terrific, but that won’t happen. They’re each going to get big, long-term contracts. Nady or Cameron wouldn’t be bad, but I’d rather go after a guy like Carlos Lee or Lance Berkman. It’s great to have a glut of starting pitchers, but they can’t all return, that’s for sure. I would not trade Vazquez, although I have a feeling that ’s going to happen. I would bring Hudson back. The bullpen will need work, too, because both Soriano and Gonzalez are free agents. One, or both, likely will depart. There are an awful lot of questions on this team. No one can say it’ll be the team to beat in ‘10 until we get answers. Regardless, as others have pointed out, until they’re beaten, the reigning world champions obviously are the team to beat.
Matt the Brave
October 6th, 2009
9:27 am
Only 10m for Dunn for next season. I think that the ‘Natinals’ would unload him for 3 prospects. Their system is BARE. I’m sure they would ask for 5 (a la the Texas trade), but they would end up holding the bag. Of course, they might take Kelly Johnson and Jordan Schaffer for Dunn and a reliever.
Mark Bradley
October 6th, 2009
9:29 am
I don’t think the Braves, who had no interest in Dunn last winter, will have any this winter. (Not saying I wouldn’t.)
PMC
October 6th, 2009
9:30 am
No, Philadelphia still the team to beat. Way more offense and better defense.
This team has the worst offense in it’s division. They have less sluggers than the Nationals. The Marlins are better. The Mets when healthy are better.
Their top RBI man had 94 rbi’s and he’s a catcher!
Chipper Jones hit 18 HR’s… that’s not going to win you anything. Sorry.
Maybe if this were a fast team with say CARL CRAWFORD and you could steal two bases and bunt a guy home.
This is still the two guys on pray for a 3 run bomb and they don’t have the lineup to do that. They could have had Adam Dunn but he was kyboshed by the budget.
Poorbrave
October 6th, 2009
9:32 am
Bobbys Back, Forget it. Its over before it starts. Wait till 2011!
Don
October 6th, 2009
9:33 am
You must be kidding. With Bobby Cox back, next season is over before it begins. Like always under Cox, the only chance we have is if our pitching should be so far far superior to all other teams that it overcomes his terrible managing and lack thereof and enables us to win (in spite of him) over the long 162 game regular season schedule. His failure to teach, emphasize, demand working the count/ beig selective/ making the opposing pitcher throw a lot of pitches guarantees poor run production and inconsistant offense. Not to mention his continous blunders in so many other ways. It is unbelievable that the Braves would rehire him for another year – after his performance this year.
PMC
October 6th, 2009
9:33 am
They aren’t going to trade for slow Dunn. They missed out on Bay and Nady when they had opportunities. I’m not sure what theier plans are really. I guess I wonder what Dunn’s clubhouse habits are since the Braves had no interest. One of the biggest holes next to lead off was clean up. Seriously…24 HR’s was tops on the team. They thought they’d get that preseason from everyone in the outfield. They need a guy who will hit 30 to 40 guarenteed and they simply don’t have it.
Heck this year 40 doubles would be nice.
Sal
October 6th, 2009
9:36 am
Are the Braves the team to beat in 2009?
If you’re the Washington Nationals…yes.
Don
October 6th, 2009
9:41 am
The valid question relating to the Braves is NOT “Are the Braves the team to beat in 2010″. — But rather who is the most incompetent – Cox as manager or Pendleton as hitting coach or Norton as a pinch hitter?? My vote is Cox – by far.
Poorbrave
October 6th, 2009
9:42 am
Don, What the he!! did you think I meant? With Bobby back its over before it starts=Braves will never win with Bobby! GET IT!
I agree with your opinion on BC.
Stewart
October 6th, 2009
9:51 am
For all the folks griping about Bobby’s comment RE: Kelly Johnson –
Bobby Cox has consistently defended and trumpeted his own players in the press. It’s a habit that helps maintain his players’ confidence and build his players’ trade values. He may believe what he’s saying, but he doesn’t have to tell you whether that’s true or not.
The Braves haven’t won for several years, and all the rumblings about Cox from the Streak have grown to a roar. But tell me, who could have won with the chewing gum-and-toothpicks teams we’ve been fielding over the past 4 years? After 2004 and 2005 the Braves seemed to get this idea that they could field anyone and magic would carry them to a division title. I’m happy to see them again accumulating talent, particularly in the pitching department.
I’m looking forward to next year.
Joey
October 6th, 2009
9:53 am
Hope you’re right about KJ, Mark. What power hitter do we realistically have a shot at signing? The Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Angels, etc gobble up the first tier free agents. It seems we get the leftovers…
Braves Fan & Wren Hater
October 6th, 2009
9:53 am
No, we are NOT.
ESPN picked us as “The Team to Beat” and eventual World Series Champion in 2008.
How’d that work out for us?
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Mark Teixeira could not be reached for comment.
Beantown
October 6th, 2009
9:54 am
Probably need more than one bat! If Heyward truly works out that could be one and then a free agent. But too many variables there because the assumption is that the current veterans also remain the same. Jones really appeared to decline near the end of the season and it is doubtful you can count on his numbers to approach this seasons much less the past.
Stewart's wife
October 6th, 2009
9:57 am
Honey, here’s your Malox. Enjoy the game.
Supes
October 6th, 2009
10:00 am
Mark,
I think Frank Wren and Bobby Cox are at odds as far as the personal decisions on this club.
Bobby wants “his boys” on the team. He would have kept trotting Jeff F. out there if Wren hadn’t taken that option away by trading him to the Mets. Bennett the same deal, thankfully he did the Braves a favor by breaking his hand, and then asking to be released. If Prado hadn’t emerged basically FORCING Bobby Cox’s hand to start him at 2B, Bobby would have kept sending out his boy Kelly Johnson out there, despite Kelly’s horrible slump before the all-star break. Bobby kept using Norton, when Greg Norton was absolutely HORRIBLE and had many unproductive PH at bats. (heck, even you wrote a very sobering Blob about this topic!)
Basically Wren needs to put his foot down and force Bobby Cox’s hand to play the BETTER players at each position, loyalty be DAMNED. Why? Because there is hardly any LOYALTY in return these days from the players themselves.
Wren needs to build this roster the way he sees fit, who cares what Bobby wants. Bobby is out of here (thankfully) after next year, what if Bobby gets his way, and the next manager inherits players that don’t fit the Braves long term future just because Cox wanted them for 2010?
Acosta, Norton, Johnson, Church are some of the players that need to go their seperate ways in 2010.
Prado has earned a job, Infante is a must keep (due to his productive bat and versatility), Diaz is a lock b/c he hits lefties so well and won’t cost much in arb. Ross is signed (great move by Wren last year).
Braves need to resign Adam LaRoache to a 3 year (with a mutual option for a 4th) mid tier contract. Nothing that will break the bank but also not chump change by MLB standards. Adam is a type B FA so pay him accordingly.
It’s obvious that Freddie Freeman has hit a bit of a wall in AA, where pitching is giving him more of a test. It could be he’s 2-3 years away from being ready to take over as our everyday 1B. Maybe he fizzles out and never makes it? Nothing is guaranteed. I’d rather the Braves pay Adam, and know he’s going to play great defense, hit 25-30HR (slow starts, so what…so did Tex and he produced his share of post all Star numbers). Enough of the Scott Thorman type experiments, sign Adam to a mutually beneficial deal for both parties (player/team) and know you have a legit 1B option.
Please say no........
October 6th, 2009
10:05 am
Giving Johnson another shot at second base would be tatamount to pi$$ing away another season. Dude cannot play consistent defense at that position, period. Prado EARNED his spot and performed. Bobby, leave him alone. You do not mess with that. For the life of me I do not know what Cox see’s in Johnson. Yes, when he is on he can rake but he is also very streaky and a defensive liability. Prado is consistent. Johnson is a bench/utility outfielder at best. Bring Heyward up to play right. Let Matty play left (all he does is hit .300 and bring emotion to the game). Do not trade Vazquez for any reason. I would prefer to trade Lowe but noone will take on his salary. Therefore, see if there are any takers for KK and resign Hudson. A rotation of Jurrjens, Hanson, Vazquez, Hudson and KK/Lowe is formidle and I will put them up against anyone. Resign LaRoche (slow out of the gate or not) he provides power at one corner infield postion. If Heyward is as good as advertised we do not need to sign/trade for a big outfield bat (although Bay would be nice). Also, please do not resign Norton (what Cox see’s in him I do not know either). I for one am looking forward to next year.
Sting 'em Buzz
October 6th, 2009
10:08 am
The Braves were picked in some cases to win the World Series so I will say they finish 4th next year.
ppaddy123
October 6th, 2009
10:08 am
As much as Adam Dunn COULD help our line up (and he can play? 1st) he’s another left handed bat in an already too heavy left handed lineup (Heyward bats left also) But, if we could move our left handed, can’t hit at home CF and throw in an athletic, though unproven, Jordan Schafefer for a solid right handed bat, suddenly having an Adam Dunn at 1st and HITTING 40 HRs for an offense that BADLY needs a POWER HITTER makes sense.
Mark Bradley
October 6th, 2009
10:10 am
You’re correct, Paddy. The Braves are so overweighted they almost have to find a right-handed hitter somewhere.
Noseknows
October 6th, 2009
10:12 am
The pitching is in place (with a couple of tweaks). The defense was much improved the second half of the season. But, Schurholz (sp.?) always got too much credit AND not ENOUGH results, for not trading for or getting enough offense – Braves should have about 3 more WS rings.
Skiland, a leland tribute band
October 6th, 2009
10:12 am
Dear Mr. MB, I finished the Find Five Challenge with 12 seconds to spare. Your pal, Skiland, a leland tribute band
Greg Norton
October 6th, 2009
10:14 am
Hey, if I was in the everyday lineup, I could hit one hundred points higher.
JB Wright
October 6th, 2009
10:15 am
The Braves aren’t the team to beat, but Cox is the the manager to pick…
HIS NOSE!!!!!
ppaddy123
October 6th, 2009
10:16 am
MB…..how much did Soriano and Gonzo make combined this year? I thought it was $10-11MM. That’s a lot for 2 guys in the bull pen not named Rivera or Hoffman
JEZ
October 6th, 2009
10:20 am
I have to echo what others have said about Cox’s comments on KJ. I hope Wren is reading that and throwing a fit right now as we all are. I will not watch them if KJ is back on this team as a starter. That is asking to be 4th again just barely in front of the Nats. I mean look at 2008. KJ starts and finishes the year at 2nd…our record was 72-90. Prado finishes the year at 2nd our record is winning..not sure what we ended with but I know it was several over 500 cause I stopped watching them once they lost that must win game against FL.
Mark Bradley
October 6th, 2009
10:21 am
Gonzalez made $3.4 million. Soriano earned $6.5 million.
Both won’t be back. I’m not certain either man will be.
JEZ
October 6th, 2009
10:21 am
If Cox has his way I may actually fill my spring watching something useless like golf..God forbid!
Mark Bradley
October 6th, 2009
10:22 am
Kudos, Leland. Five Five is no easy matter.
Don
October 6th, 2009
10:22 am
“Are the Braves the team to beat in 2010″? That question was answered as soon as Bobby Cox was rehired – the season is alreaady over. His rehiring is an unbelievable mystery. The only POSSIBLE EXPLANAITON – With his terrible management and lack of management being so glaring and so obvious, is that he must have been given a commitment years ago that he could stay for as long as he wanted. His incompetence has to be obvious to the Braves officials, so this is the only explanation that makes sense.
JM
October 6th, 2009
10:30 am
From June 28th through September 30th, the Braves went 52-32. I don’t much much stock into the Nationals’ series because the Braves clearly quit playing after they were eliminated from the playoff race. The point is, I don’t think we necessarily HAVE to make a big splash this offseason in order to be a very strong contender next year. I think we’re a playoff team in 2010 if we can simply keep the rotation intact, re-sign LaRoche, and get solid contributions from Heyward. That’s not to say we should just sit on our hands, though.
I REALLY want a big bat, but my number one priority is to keep Vazquez. I would not trade Javy under any circumstances. Some of you may say he’ll never match what he did this year, but I say this guy has always had elite stuff, he just needed to be in the right situation to thrive. As it stands today, he’s a legitimate No. 1 starter, and short of getting Albert Pujols (not going to happen, obviously), you don’t give that up.
The ideal scenario would be to trade Lowe, but no team in their right mind is going to take him given his age, contract and declining performance. I also don’t get the feeling Kawakami’s trade value is that high. I think I’d have to let Hudson walk and use that money to upgrade the offense.
Let Soriano walk as well. He’s too unreliable and too much of a health risk to be worth what he’ll surely command on the open market. I would re-sign Gonzalez if we can do it at a reasonable price, and scour the league for a couple of low-priced, high-upside guys with power stuff who might have fallen out of favor in other organizations.
If Wren can pull off the trick of keeping Vazquez, adding one big bat (or two solid ones) and putting together a decent bullpen, then I’ll consider this offseason a huge success.
Skiland, a leland tribute band
October 6th, 2009
10:30 am
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Yours in leland adoration,
Skiland, a leland tribute band
ppaddy123
October 6th, 2009
10:30 am
MB….so basically $10MM for both. I think Moylan moves into the closer role next year. Dude was pretty dang good after the break (just hope his arm doesn’t fall off from over use). I DO think the nationals would move Dunn to make their team better. I just wonder if they would consider moving Zimmerman?
Mark Bradley
October 6th, 2009
10:33 am
The only thing about Moylan: Can he get lefthanders out?
Well, actually, there’s one more thing: Was he overused in 2009?
Doug
October 6th, 2009
10:34 am
Have to love the year Vazquez had, but a shrewd organization would trade him for exactly that reason- his value will never be higher, and chances are he’ll return to normal next year in his second round through the NL. He’s our only route to getting a big time bat, and I don’t see him repeating this year in 2010. Nobody wants Hudson or Lowe, but we could make something happen by being shrewd enough to trade Vazquez at his peak value.
Kelly Johnson Fan Club
October 6th, 2009
10:36 am
Trade McLouth. Trade Lowe. Acquire a real 1B. (Not Adam LaRoche)
sidslid
October 6th, 2009
10:39 am
Gotta have a real closer. I think the Colorado game at the end of the first half was just as bad as the Cincy sweep. Not as enamored with the righty power guy. Angels win their division every year without a 40 HR guy, just a bumch of guys hitting .300 and driving in 80 runs.
Mark Bradley
October 6th, 2009
10:42 am
I’d agree. The two closers didn’t quite work. But I’m not sure either Gonzalez or Soriano can do it by himself.
Don
October 6th, 2009
10:44 am
Poorbrave, I was not responding to your comment. My comment relating to Cox was directed to Mr. Bradley’s question — Are the Braves the team to beat in 2010. I understood your comment and agreed completely.
PMC
October 6th, 2009
10:45 am
The Angels have guys who can run and have more pop accross the board Speaking of which… I wonder if Chone Figgins would be a good fit here.
The braves currently don’t really many players that hit 300, drive in 80, hit many home runs or steal bases.
Lots of very very very very average to poor pros even the defense is lackluster. Every game changing player on the team is a pitcher.
A cold streak doesn’t last the bulk of a year. It’s what you are.
big-um
October 6th, 2009
10:46 am
sign laroche and train freeman at 3rd base and prado and mc in center and heyward for outfielders and uggula at 2wnd johnson as back up 2nd and pitch hitting instead of ed norton….keep the rotation in tack with lowe-vas-hud-jur-han and puy jap in bullpen with gonza-sorio-moylen…go braves 2010…………….
dave
October 6th, 2009
10:46 am
Enter your comments here Just read Cox is considering KJ for 2B and Prado for RF???What more does Prado need to prove//Consistent hitting and reliable fielding at 2B while KJ has neither..If I have to go thru another season with KJ at 2B I don’t think I can take it..I’ve been a Braves fan since 1953 but watching KJ bat and field again might be the last straw..Bobby is loyal to a fault..And Chipper can no longer anchor the lineup from the 3 hole..C’mon Bobby
Joe Fan
October 6th, 2009
10:46 am
I am concerned about 2010 with Cox returning as manager. His comments and decisions in many cases are non-sensical. However, if the Braves can add a big bat in LF plus Heyward takes over RF and is all he is expected to be combined with a strong bat at 1B and Chipper recovers from 2009,then maybe even Bobby can’t mess things up enough to keep the Braves from challenging the Phils. Sounds like a lot of ifs…doesn’t it?
rhynster
October 6th, 2009
10:47 am
Some of you folks are delusional.
Apparently, realism has no place in your worlds.
Trade Lowe? Laughably impossible.
Sign LaRoche, Gonzalez, Soriano AND Bay? Sure, because it’s not already too expensive to go to a game. Let;’s just sign everyone we can and jack seat prices up to $250 each.
Tom B.
October 6th, 2009
10:48 am
You need to keep LaRoche;he has matured as a player since leaving Atlanta the first time. I would be very aggressive with going after Holliday. I also would be open to trading Chipper to an AL team, move Prado to third and go after Uggla.
Kelly Johnson Fan Club
October 6th, 2009
10:49 am
Mark Bradley -
Have you recieved any indication as to what the Braves’ payroll will be in 2010?
Herschel Talker
October 6th, 2009
10:49 am
“I’m not sure that Bobby Cox’s view of Kelly Johnson reflects upper management’s.”
I’m not sure that Booby Cox’s view of anything right now reflects upper management’s. Sure, let’s keep a guy that you left on the bench in favor of Greg Norton. Good call, Booby, you idiot.
“The only thing about Moylan: Can he get lefthanders out? Well, actually, there’s one more thing: Was he overused in 2009?”
Ummm…how about YES, he was overused! As was Gonzalez and Soriano. Thank you Booby.
“I’d agree. The two closers didn’t quite work. But I’m not sure either Gonzalez or Soriano can do it by himself.”
Of course they couldn’t. Booby will have either one’s arm fall off by game 61 if the other is not around.
I’VE SAID IT SEVERAL TIMES, I’LL SAY IT AGAIN. IT DOESN’T MATTER WHOM FRANK WREN ACQUIRES. YOU CAN FLUSH 2010 DOWN THE CRAPPER AS LONG AS THIS IDIOT MANAGER IS STILL AROUND.
dap01
October 6th, 2009
10:50 am
Schaffer should pay all year at AAA, just to learn and get experience.
We need a RH hitter in LF. We need more bullpen depth, because Cox will overuse anyone.
We need a running game (not going to happen with BC).
We need to not overuse McCann when we have a very good backup in Ross.
We do not need to pay $3-4 million to Church or Johnson.
We should not worry about Freeman until he is much closer to the big leagues.
What more can LaRoache do? Sign him and get a LF.
ppaddy123
October 6th, 2009
10:50 am
Mark…..I think the whole “Lefty-Righty” match-up thing has be driven into the ground. Why doesn’t the “Lefty-Righty” match-up apply to starting pitchers? Are ball clubs doing such bad jobs in the minors that they can’t teach a righty how to get a lefty out? I think if you tell a right handed guy he can’t get lefties out; he’ll believe you. Now with that being said…..In my opinion, Bobby Cox does not manage a bullpen very well. A closer should be “THE GUY” at the end of the game. I doubt Soriano or Gonzo EVER got that feeling from Bobby Cox. It’s funny….as much as we hear guys talk about how much they like playing for Bobby, we almost never hear from guys that were in the pen.
Mark Bradley
October 6th, 2009
10:50 am
I haven’t, KJFC. I’d imagine it would be slightly, but not immensely, north of where it was this season.
Don
October 6th, 2009
10:52 am
I have been a critic of Pendleton as the hitting coach – not feeling that his contributions have been significant. However, in his defense — we cannot be absolutely sure if his problem has not been Bobby Cox’s unwillingness to back him up. That is we cannot be sure that he had any authory to enforce what he wanted to do with hitters. Not saying – that I think he is a good hitting coach – just that we have no way to absolutly be sure of what he could do under a different manager.
DirtyDawg
October 6th, 2009
10:54 am
I’m sorry, and as much as I admire Bobby Cox, this obsession with Kelly Johnson at second is absurd. Bobby, surely you can see his limitations? For a fast guy, he’s got no range. His inability to go to his right meant he had to shade toward second which left a gaping hole on the right that was constantly being exploited by everybody, and even balls hit straight to him – particularly those hit hard – you have to hold your breath on. I agree that the guy, when he’s ‘on’ can hit a ton…and I’d like to think he’ll be doing that here, but where. I still say he’s better suited in the outfield and unlike others I don’t think that Matt Diaz is a quality, everyday, player – in right or left. If Heyward is to be our rightfielder next year then I say let’s try and platoon Diaz and Johnson in left…of course, I’m not so sure McLouth is the long-term answer in center, but that’s another story. As hot as Diaz can get, his obvious limitations – swinging at balls he couldn’t reach with a broom, along with swinging – and missing – many that are right down the middle…and that doesn’t include his continued defensive lapses.
And please, don’t let Vasquez get away. The guy’s got it all. Lowe and/or KK would be the ones to move, even if you have to eat salary, and even though I like ‘em both. And Tim Hudson should stay if for no reason than he’s a winner and class act to boot – I mean here’s a guy (and his wife) that truly does great work in the community (unlike John Smoltz that wanted us to believe he was really working at it with that foundation of his, but allowed it to languish starting last year – and that was before he knew who the ‘highest bidder’ was gonna be…Vasquez/Hudson/Hanson/Jurjens/and a quality left-hander (who knows, maybe Liberty Media will open up the checkbook and sign the Cuban defector – Chapman – maybe Yunel might have some influence on him). That would be a tough starting bunch.