
See? Some folks were in the house Monday. (AJC photo by Curtis Compton)
The announced crowd at Turner Field on Monday was 25,046. I’d guessed the actual attendance as 15,000 and thought I was being kind. But no matter the number, the image was clear.
Another big baseball game in the A-T-L.
Another unpacked house.
And here I’m supposed to get all righteously indignant and say something like, “It just goes to show what a lousy sports town this is. If this game had been in Boston or Chicago or New York, you couldn’t have gotten a ticket.”
But you know what? I’m not going to say anything like that. Because I don’t really care about the folks in Boston and Chicago and New York. (And anyway, I just came from a Patriots game in Foxborough, where Gillette Stadium was officially sold out but empty seats were apparent.) Besides, this time I feel no call for indignation, righteous or otherwise.
As I tried to note last night, this is a weird sort of stretch drive. It crept up on all of us, the Braves included. It wasn’t until last week that things got interesting, and when the Braves returned home only 2 1/2 games behind Colorado they were facing some powerful mitigating circumstances.
School’s in session. The economy’s adrift. Lots of locals are still bailing out basements after last week’s rain. And let’s be honest: The Braves haven’t been flavor the month for more than a months of Sundays. Lately we’d gotten in the habit of keeping one eye — one only — on the Braves and saving our real enthusiasm for the Falcons or the Dawgs or Tech or even the Hawks.
But now the Braves are in a race we never saw coming, and we’re only just catching on. I’d imagine the crowds will increase as the week unfolds, and if the Braves keep winning I’d expect 40,000 on Friday night and that many again on Saturday afternoon. And Sunday afternoon, if the game is meaningful, could well be sold out. (The Falcons are off this week, FYI.)
And I’ve long since stopped associating raw attendance numbers with depth of fan interest. We didn’t ever tune the Braves out; we just followed them a bit less closely. These hadn’t become the dark days of the ’80s, when, as the joke went, you could leave two Braves tickets on your windshield and come back and find four. Most of us will have no trouble finding our way to the ballpark this weekend. We’ve all been there before, many times.
And even if there were only 25,000 (or 15,000) on hand Monday, it wasn’t a bored corporate gathering. These were folks who knew what was going on and who’d come to see baseball. “The crowd was into it,” Bobby Cox said afterward, and it was. It didn’t feel like just another night at the ballyard. It felt like a night at the races.
And, on another Braves-related matter: Getting way ahead of ourselves, we wonder how the playoff rotation might look. Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz? Vazquez, Jurrjens, Hanson? And what happens to Derek Lowe?
310 comments Add your comment
todd
September 29th, 2009
10:10 am
I’ve decided not to watch any more games this year. Every time I get interested in this stupid team they let me down. If I start watching again they will lose again plain and simple. The only reason they are winning now anyway is that they were so far behind that they didn’t feel any pressure. Now that the games actually mean something they will blow it.
PMC
September 29th, 2009
10:10 am
I’ll be there Wednesday but I’ll be late because of work and traffic and family duties. One hopes in a city and or area of 5 Million+ that people will come out and buy seats and that the corporations would use them or give them away… but honestly Mark. It’s unimportant. Plenty of people will watch on TV and the folks that come will cheer. The only people it really matters too are Liberty Media… and they could care less about Atlanta. They’ll probably cut payroll next year too. This team is vastly more interesting now than they were when they had our attention in the dog days of summer. People just aren’t passionate about baseball here… that’s not really a crime.
Don't look now, but a playoff drive has come out of nowhere | Mark Bradley
September 29th, 2009
10:11 am
[...] (And here’s a little something about Monday night’s attendance, or the lack of same.) [...]
Herschel Talker
September 29th, 2009
10:11 am
MB:
TWELFTH!!!
Yes, we care, but no one wants to go to the stadium during the week when it’s important for us to keep our jobs in this horrible recession. Let’s get some fans this weekend, but unlike New York, we don’t have 10 million people to spread over 60,000 seats on Tuesday night game at a stadium that is nowhere near our offices or homes.
The Lemmer
September 29th, 2009
10:16 am
It wasn’t that long ago that Atlanta, and the rest of the South for that matter, were tomahawk-chopping lunatics. It’s sad to see the lack of enthusiasm at the ballpark.
Nativebird
September 29th, 2009
10:18 am
RESIST the darkside Luke…they will not make it to the postseason. Stay home, watch the Falcons, pay attention to the Hawks and Thrashers, the DREAM if you must, but this band of posers will PULL YOU IN, only to once again, dissapoint. This team is doing what they do…tease you, fill you with hope, fill you with once again, “just maybe, just maybe”???
Then DASH your dreams, and vanquish all of your heart as they once again, reminding you of why they exist…to take YOUR hard earned entertainment dollar and put it in John Schuerholz pocket. (Then go play golf with it in October).
This is Lucy pulling back the football on Charlie Brown ONCE AGAIN in Atlanta!
coach joe
September 29th, 2009
10:18 am
I live in new orleans and I follow the Braves.I think that I am more excited about the Braves run than my four brothers that live in Atlanta..
Go Braves and Go LSU — tiger bait on saturday..
pj
September 29th, 2009
10:18 am
An even better question Mark… we probably won’t win it outright – but who would start for us in a 1 game tiebreaker against the Rockies?
Michael
September 29th, 2009
10:19 am
I think the extenuating circumstances that you alluded to have affected the crouds. Also, many fans probably gave up on the Braves months again when they were hovering aroudn .500 and now that the NFL is in full swing their attention has gone elsewhere.
We will not have a chance to set our rotation because we will be fighting until the last day. And it really doesn’t matter. We have 4 guys who could argue for that top spot.
soxman
September 29th, 2009
10:20 am
Why watch the same ol’ Bobby Cox show- get close and figure out a way to lose the important ones? Been doing that for over 20 years. Watching Cox manage is like having constipation.
MightyQuinn
September 29th, 2009
10:21 am
Somebody wrote after the All Star Break; The Braves keep teasin’, and I keep believin’. Truer words have never been spoken. One of the biggest problems with this is, though, they don’t control their own destiny. All they can do is keep winning and hope for help. It makes it a little more difficult to get excited. Pensive, wishful, hopeful, maybe. Sweep the Marlins (no small feat), Brewers eek out a win out of three, go into the weekend one game down with four to play, Turner Field will rock this weekend.
Paul H
September 29th, 2009
10:22 am
If the Braves don’t pull it off, and the odds still say they won’t, you can look back to losing 5 of 6 at home to the padres and reds a month ago.
fieldofdreams
September 29th, 2009
10:22 am
Embarrassing turnout. America is laughing at us….again. This team has huge heart that deserves more respect from it’s so-called “fans.” I’m in the Denver area now…..Rockies fans have jobs and kids who go to school, too, but Coors Field overflows with fans like a mug of suds. Fair-weather seems too kind a word to describe Braves “fans.”
toddh
September 29th, 2009
10:23 am
pretty funny the first commenter with the same name feels pretty much the same I do. I want to get enthused, and am gradually getting more excited, but over the last couple of months it’s felt like they just didn’t quite have enough. or they didn’t want it bad enough, but I almost hate to think that’s the case. like you said MB, it’s been a different kind of playoff push since they haven’t really seriously threatened for the lead since right now. still pulling for em, just hate to once again get excited then have them disappoint.
john
September 29th, 2009
10:25 am
eh, we need to quit making excuses. Last night was pathetic. I hope more show up to the stadium tonight. I wish I could go but I live over 500 miles away from Atlanta
steveh
September 29th, 2009
10:27 am
Atlanta is not a baseball town. It is a football town (like every other city in the south). As a baseball fan, I find it unfortunate, but that is the way it is. In ‘91, the entire southern region was captured by Braves Fever. It was a special time. It was never the same after that. Even toward the end of their magical run of division titles, the Braves were having trouble selling out playoff games. By this time of the year, most of the south has moved on to football and they no longer care about baseball. It is sad, but true.
Aunt Esther
September 29th, 2009
10:27 am
Atlanta has the weakest, worst fans in all of sports. I live over 120 miles away and STILL manage to make it to 5-10 Braves games a year. We always get made fun of on a national level for our weak attendance/fans.
Having said that, the Braves CORE base (the 15 to 20 K) who are ALWAYS at the Braves games are great. It’s just a shame the rest of the city cannot show up…or make noise when they do…EXAMPLE…I was at John Smoltz’s 3000 K game last year, on a weeknight…and the place was half-full. Well, Atlanta, the joke then was on you: Smoltz signed autographs for *everybody* after the game. :p
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!
Gabron Salome
September 29th, 2009
10:28 am
Its fun thats all I know and will be there on Friday. I’ve said from the start to be patient we would come around. I thought next year for sure, but w/ Hudson back and some timely hitting and Bobby letting his starters FINISH we’ll be choppin in October again.Enter your comments here
EW
September 29th, 2009
10:28 am
I care…im just scared to start watching again and jinx it.
gafan1
September 29th, 2009
10:29 am
Some of the people on this post repulse me. A true fan is a fan in good times and bad. We are 16 games over .500. It is good times. Ride the wave, enjoy this strech run. For the first time in a few years we are playing meaningful games in September. This is not a make the playoffs or bust scenario. The core of this team will be back next year and the things they learn this year will be valuable in the future. Please support your team. You never know when we will be this close to the playoffs again.
Pittsburgh Al
September 29th, 2009
10:32 am
The reason there is little enthusiasm at this point is that all of us drained it by giving up on them. The offense has been anemic more often than not, losing to really bad teams has happened on a regular basis and there have been too many very visible bad decisions that have cost games. Until today most of these blogs have been about how to rebuild this team and replace the manager and management. Mark & Jeff have been major contributors to the problem by constantly writing Brave obituaries in the AJC. Let’s face it….until going 15-2 they were a .500 team waiting until next year. I think there is still a wait and see attitude since any lose at this point will be hard to overcome. Can they really finish the season with a 13 game winning streak….a streak that they may never have had even in the winning years.
Wes
September 29th, 2009
10:32 am
Has anyone bothered to look at the ratings of Sport South? I bet they’re through the roof. Just because the Ted’s attendance figures are mediocre during this playoff push, does NOT mean people aren’t paying attention and cheering on their beloved Braves. On weekdays, it’s difficult to attend a game because of work, traffic, and other duties people are obligated to (not to mention the horrible location of the stadium, maybe Atlanta should’ve kept Pounce De Leon Park back in the 60’s and had the future Braves play there).
I, for one, will be attending Wednesday’s game, Friday’s game, and Sunday’s game (can’t wait for CCR!). I’ve been watching the Braves this ENTIRE season, win or lose. Attendance will get a boost for the weekend, just watch. GO BRAVES!!
Doug B
September 29th, 2009
10:32 am
GO TO THE GAME AND SUPPORT THE TEAM!!!
Brian
September 29th, 2009
10:33 am
soxman, how can you say Bobby is losing the “important ones”? You know every game for the last week has pretty much been an elimination game, and he’s won every one?
DC Bravesfan
September 29th, 2009
10:35 am
Come on, Mark…if they can’t sell out when we’re in the NLDS! When they had to play 5 road games becuase there were more Cubs fans in the stands in 2003? I still maintain, the reason why the Braves didn’t win more WS during the streak of 14, was NO HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE. GO TO THE FRICKING BALL PARK! IT’S THE PLAYOFFS!!!
pryguy
September 29th, 2009
10:35 am
Bradley,
Are you that ignorant to the fact that the Braves are VERY popular across the country? Do you realize people live MANY hours away from Atlanta to even consider attending a game? Living in Pennsylvania, it seems kind of difficult to make it. I think ALOT of people are stuck in the same spot. So to answer your question, YES alot of people care about this playoff push. Maybe not enough in the immediate area, but certainly around this country!!!
Poorjeff
September 29th, 2009
10:36 am
When Bobby is gone we’ll return, not until.
Charlie
September 29th, 2009
10:37 am
Still a Braves fan here. Funny how the national media paints Atlanta as the worst fan city in America when the Braves are still in the upper half of attendance of all baseball teams, not at the bottom. Got the stats from MLB just a few minutes ago. I have watched many away Braves games this year with few in the stands.
eric the elder
September 29th, 2009
10:38 am
Let’s see – - do I give my money to millionaire health insurance execs or to millonaire baseball players? Big business has never gone broke by overestimating the gullible mentality of the regular folks.
Besides, even if the Braves edge in, after being swept by the Reds, does anyone think they are competitive with teams that clinched their divisions long ago?
Dan
September 29th, 2009
10:38 am
I like to know the Braves are out there. It is nice to see that they are winning and I hope they make the playoffs. But go to a game? Not likely – I have a pegnant wife and a 2 year old. I only get so much time off – I stockpile it for college football. I have a feeling I am not alone in doing so.
Dr. Phil
September 29th, 2009
10:39 am
Atlanta fans will support a winning team in any sport. The magic of the early 90’s is gone, and there has been some lollygagging in recent years, but Bobby and this team are due credit for outstanding effort in the last few weeks. The talent is certainly there for next season.
Tami
September 29th, 2009
10:40 am
I’m getting kind of tired of defending “the Braves fan” out there. We all have a lot going on, and far too many demands on the few dollars we have left over in our paychecks every week or two. This is rent week for me (i.e., rent is due, payday is Thursday). I have NOT allowed my enthusiasm for the Braves to diminish one bit. And, I’m watching them every night that I’m home. If I’m not home and I can be near a radio, I’m listening in. Or, I’m checking the scoreboard on my cell phone. I’m VERY interested. But, I do have a life….
If I can squeeze it, I plan to be at Turner Field Saturday and maybe Sunday (or flip it). I’ll just have to see what I still have in the wallet after I pay rent this week. GO, BRAVES!
You know….they have a slightly more plausible chance at the NL East title, by the way. Has anyone noticed? Of course, the Wild Card could be more of a realistic goal. At any rate, the Braves are making the Rockies & the Phillies VERY nervous. And, no division winner/leader wants to face them in a short series either. I LOVE IT!
Nativebird
September 29th, 2009
10:43 am
Combine Inability to win consistently, with a HC that is past retirement and is doing it “for fun” and “because he deserves it”, add a President who still calls division wins “a Championship”, with a dash of a GM without the funds to acquire AllStar talent, all topped off by a game day experience akin to a bad travel day getting to a dentist appointment, only to be berated by Nazi-like “Ushers” with a 3rd grade education, selling $7 beer; And it’s the fan’s fault?
Get Real. I’ve been to many MLB games at other ballparks from coast to coast, and Atlanta’s “product” is at or near the bottom. Just dont have the time or patience to put up with overpriced crap.
Braves_Guru_32
September 29th, 2009
10:44 am
There really is no excuse for this terrible attendance. Who says that the Braves fans are only in the metro area? I am from the most northern part of Georgia. Its a two hour drive to Turner Field for me and I have made it to at least one game per series this year at Turner Field, meaning I have seen every team that has came to the Ted this year (still came during the 0-5 run too, yes I was at the Padres and the Reds finale) and I work 8:00-4:00 too. Yes, I understand there are flood victims, but they do not account for the 35,000 empty seats last night. I’m not saying that I didn’t throw in the towel after the Red’s series and ESPICALLY after Cox pulled Hanson because NO, I didn’t predict this 15-2 run and no one else did either, but the Bravos have done it and now the pressure is on Colorado. So lets turn out to these last 6 games Braves fans and get loud and Chop. Fall is in the air and I can’t wait to be at the Ted tonight.
Could my clock go any slower? I feel like a kid waiting on Christmas!
I BELIEVE!!!
elviskl
September 29th, 2009
10:44 am
Keep this team entact completely -minus greg norton- for next year and we win 110 games…..,wren waited to long to trade francour and exile shafer to the minors…….but you never know, i was there last night and im going back tonite…….go ga tech to hell with the bullpups
Trey
September 29th, 2009
10:44 am
I miss the Braves and I can’t watch them since I am deployed. I would love to be able to go to a Braves game. Unlike most people from the south I can’t stand football, as it is a sport of mostly thugs and convicts. Baseball is the game of smart men. It would be nice to get a football championship from the Falcons, but I personally don’t like ‘em much.
sean
September 29th, 2009
10:46 am
I think there are a few things at play here with why people don’t show up. First is football season is in full swing now and people in Atlanta and the surrounding metro area are more concerned with the Falcons,Dawgs and Jackets at this time than they are with the Braves.Second after 14 years of making the playoffs and coming up empty every time but once i’m sure there is some doubt in peoples minds which then doesn’t create excitement for the team. 3rd i’d just like to ask where are all those people who attended the Boston and New York series? Surely not all of you Red Sox and Yankees fans were from out of state how about supporting the local team the rest of the year while your at it?
DC Bravesfan
September 29th, 2009
10:47 am
Lame lame lame excuses…I just paid $7.5 a beer for Nats/Braves Saturday!!! You can get a flask in…pay for nose bleed seats…find a baby sitter…
Chazs
September 29th, 2009
10:47 am
The crowd was small, but those of us there had fun. And what I saw was great!
Who would have expected loading the bases on straight walks in the first inning? So it pays to get there on-time.
Chipper’s HR, I don’t remember the last time I saw one off the right field pole that was so high. The small crowd let us actually hear it too!
Chipper’s catch he made on the foul ball. You don’t get that look watching on TV. Some may say it was routine, but the height and shear vertical nature of the Major League pop up was something to behold while being extremely dramatic against the night sky. This is men playing a “boy’s” game.
We may all think in the back of our minds the Braves might not make it. We may all be thinking of the games the Braves could have or should have won; yet this is FUN, an actual race.
So don’t come to the games; we will have fun with out you.
Skeezix
September 29th, 2009
10:49 am
Mark: What a difference 2 and 1/2 weeks can make in baseball. This has been an awesome run and, yes, I care! This pitching staff has been amazing. J.J., Javy, and the two Tommie Guns are the best in the NL right now, hands down. We knew we had the pitching but now the offense has finally started to show some life and timely hitting. Chipper has awoken. It will be the most exciting time in years for Braves fans if they do run down the Rockies. Don’t forget the Phils are playing awful right now–but still 4 up and we only have 6 games left–…the NL East is unlikely, but still possible.
o-me
September 29th, 2009
10:50 am
Right on…..NATIVEBIRD……..you hit the nail on the head.
youngballcoach
September 29th, 2009
10:50 am
all the non-believers out there trying to convince us that the braves are done:
you remind me of teamates who would show up to the field and try to convince us all we were wasting our time before the game even began. Any time it got hard they would give up instead of pushing through it, ready to quit at any point. Instead of this give-up, “what can i get outta this?” mentality, let’s get out there and at least give it our best shot! If it doesn’t happen then we will be a little heart broken but atleast we will know we gave it everything we had and weren’t gonna give up before it started.
THE BRAVES NEED US NOW! IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, MAKE IT TO THE STADIUM
soxman
September 29th, 2009
10:50 am
We’ll talk Sunday, Brian (or before-). Cox is 63- 70 in postseason, 1-24 in winning a World Series (what a manager is hired for) . No other manager has ever, in the history of he game, been give so many chances with the same team while being such a loser.
oldmike
September 29th, 2009
10:50 am
Paul H- Throw out the sweep by the Reds that lost weekend as cause for missing the playoffs (if they do) I say this because they followed that with a sweep of the Cards on the road. So they went 3-3 in that segment. Probably what we would have hoped for anyway.
They need HELP, but there’s a (getting stronger) pulse. The pitching is carrying this team on this run. Javy, JJ and Hanson have been lights out and Huddy has stepped in and made us even stronger.
Still, no run, no way without the trade for LaRoche. I think he is the reason they have took off. Just so much more run production from that position and the continued production from Prado, Diaz and Yunel made the run happen.
AndyC
September 29th, 2009
10:51 am
Mark
Very thoughtful approach to the topic of Braves game attendance. I agree with you. It would be easy to make a snap judgement and say that the fans don’t support the team but like you said this came out of nowhere and this team has been a bit of a tease this year with long stretches of playing well and then playing poorly. If they don’t make it then this will be one of the biggest teases of all time.
The Lemmer
September 29th, 2009
10:52 am
I love how the Cox-haters still come out of the woodwork…
Dugout Bench
September 29th, 2009
10:53 am
Eric the elder-
Take your worthless anti-capitalist/anti-business butt and throw it off a cliff. The world will be a better place for it and thank you for finally doing something meaningful and productive in your life.
Thank you.
BlueEdwards
September 29th, 2009
10:54 am
Most people DONT CARE because they dont believe the Braves will finish the drill and overtake the Rockies to win the wild card. I mean, literally from the time the Braves had about 25 games left, the Braves had to win virtually all of their remainding games to even have a remote shot. The Braves have done that and if the Braves win out the last 6 to close out the season, assuming the Braves overtake the Rockies; the Braves will have had to win 23 out of their last 25 in order to get the job done. THAT IS A DIFFICULT TASK AND MOST PEOPLE DONT BELIEVE THE BRAVES WILL FINISH OFF THE ROCKIES; MYSELF INCLUDED, I AM A BIT SKEPTICAL. If it happens I will be proud of the Braves, heck Im proud of them for at least making it back into the wild card race. Most folks in the sports media wont acknowledge the Braves are in a penant race. In fact, it wasnt until the Braves pulled to within 2 1/2 games this past weekend that the Braves even got national exposure for being in a penant race. I watched ESPN and saw how excited Peter Gammons was about the Braves. Of course, Peter is a baseball purist and a heck of a talent; and he is just amazed at what the Braves are currently doing. John Kruk also had some wonderful thinkgs to say about the Braves. But before this past weekend, everybody kept saying the Braves are out of it and alot of the media outlets even today wont acknowledge the Braves greatness. In fact, even when the Braves overtake the Rockies and are given the wildcard berth, most people still wont say the Braves have a chance to win the world series. The Braves are the best team and baseball and they will be proving it to the world real soon the minute they get into the playoffs.
smitty
September 29th, 2009
10:54 am
The Atlanta fans are like the Nationals team…pathetic.
BubbaGump
September 29th, 2009
10:54 am
eric the elder
You need to change your name. You certainly don’t sound like an elder. You sound like an idiot.
The Lemmer
September 29th, 2009
10:55 am
Agree with the comments on LaRoche. I don’t care who the team has in the minors and how good he might be. LaRoche is in the majors and playing extremely well now…get him a contract.
Shane Dial
September 29th, 2009
10:56 am
Enter your comments here
Atlanta is my hometown of 24 yrs, though I haven’t lived there in 18. Atlanta fans have been indifferent for most of that time except for a few key time periods, of which we all can recall.
The transient element of ATL does not help. Everybody here is from somewhere else, with existing allegiances. But, Still…there HAS to be local Atlantans who love the Braves the way I do (I live in Nashville, now) or have a kid who only knows the Braves as his local team, despite what dad/mom grew up with, who could get behind this team…?
Seeing the Braves in the playoffs on TV and thousands of empty seats is pathetic. Prove the rest of the country wrong! Go see the Braves!!
Trey
September 29th, 2009
10:57 am
That would be nice if the Braves won the rest of their games and the Phillies won two or less.
DirtyDawg
September 29th, 2009
10:58 am
It always tickles me to have a sportswriter-type criticize fans for not attending games. These a people that not only haven’t had to pay for a ticket to a sporting event in their professional lives, they get paid to go and make crap up about it. Face it, most Atlantans go out to games when they have a reasonable expectation of having fun – I mean winning. This team spent the majority of the season fiddle-fa*tin’ around…to the point that the cost, and trouble, of going to games finally got the best of us. And don’t forget that a lot of Atlanta sports franchise ticket sales are from businesses – at least the season ticket folks – wanting to use them to entertain clients. If clients don’t have good time then just how smart is it to keep asking ‘em…and don’t even get me started about the economy.
Regardless, we make the playoffs and folks will turn out, and Mr. Bradley will have to find something else to use to get the fight started.
BravesfanNC
September 29th, 2009
10:58 am
I live in North Carolina, and what is sad is that there are more of an following of the Braves outside of Atlanta than there is in Atlanta. We will be watching and hoping and believing. GO BRAVES!!!
dap01
September 29th, 2009
10:58 am
eric the elder: ????, Why bother when you have nothing to contribute.
Go Braves, the crowds are small because the odds have been so against the Braves. Keep winning and the crowds will return.
raindawg722
September 29th, 2009
10:58 am
Eric the elder, the Reds are not that bad. Some of their best players have been bitten by the injury bug this season but they are a talented team.
And yes, seeing as how the Braves have a winning records against the Phillies this season, and recently swept the Dodgers and the Cardinals while on the road, I do think that they will be competitive with any of those teams. The Braves are hot right now, have solid starting pitching, and I’ll bet you that any of those division winners would rather see the Rockies than the Braves make the playoffs.
sad brotha
September 29th, 2009
10:58 am
The ownership is not serious. Hell, with McGuirk at the helm… I’ll stay at home as well. Why are the good seats always empty for the most part? They represents the corporate ownership (read Liberty Colorado: keeping inept butt kissers who are incompetent and talk a good game McGuirk) that America Hates. I hope they lose their shirts on their tax write-offs! They write off the fans as well with their scheming. Get gone… ALL OF THEM!
Ross
September 29th, 2009
10:59 am
The catch that wasn’t
http://blogs.denverpost.com/rockies/2009/09/28/barmes-amazing-catch-or-was-it/
I said as much to my buddies right after the play. That was a game up right there. I think the baseball god will not look kindly on this.
-drl
Skeezix
September 29th, 2009
11:01 am
Mark: Bobby Cox, the “Chess Master” deserves a lot of credit here for keeping the guys from giving up – after some really bad losses and a host of injuries – and finally piecing together a line up that works offensively. This offense has learned some patience at the plate and it is helping- TP should get some credit here. Wetill need a power hitter, but with this stingy pitching staff, this bunch of singles/doubles hitters may be enough.
Mike S
September 29th, 2009
11:01 am
I am excited for the rest of the week. Make it or not, the Braves have finally made September fun again.
If they do make it – Vasquez, JJ, Hanson, Huddy — Lowe to the Pen.
Angus
September 29th, 2009
11:02 am
“And even if there were only 25,000 (or 15,000) on hand Monday, it wasn’t a bored corporate gathering.”
Good call Mark. I was pleasantly surprised with the crowd last night. You could tell that they (we) were there for the game.
WCJ
September 29th, 2009
11:04 am
What if the braves, phillies, and rockies have the same record after sunday. Would the braves want to play at home for the wildcard or play the phillies on the road for the east title. Make this easy, try to win out if you braves.
Alex
September 29th, 2009
11:04 am
There is ALWAYS an excuse as to why Braves fans don’t come to the park. Now, its the recession/floods. Ten years ago, it was 9/11. Before that, the internet bubble burst. Before that, the excuse was Monica Lewinski. And before that, Aliens were waiting for you at the park.
Face it…Atlanta is THE WORST sports town in the entire country. The country knows it. The sooner the Braves know that, they can move to an actual city who gives a dookey.
LAdawg
September 29th, 2009
11:05 am
What is compelling about this team that should make me want to do anything more than watch a few innings on tv out of curiosity. Other than the Hanson story, every 5th day, there is no one that puts butts in the seats. If you want to talk about something compelling concerning playoffs, let’s talk about college football!
josh
September 29th, 2009
11:07 am
Me and some friends bought $1 tickets to the game last night and had great seats in the upper deck down the right field line. $1 for tickets!!!!! it’s hard to bitch about the price when it’s a buck. head down to the stadium and support the team!!!
Skeezix
September 29th, 2009
11:10 am
Re: Rockies “miracle” catch.
I was buying that Barmes caught that ball cleanly the other night. Neither was Pujols obviously.
Hillbilly Deluxe
September 29th, 2009
11:14 am
Some of us don’t go to MLB games because, frankly, it just costs too damn much. As long as they have the corporate seasin ticket buyers (who can write off the costs), they don’t care about the average working class fan.
ppaddy123
September 29th, 2009
11:17 am
Bradley, it’s been the perception of many (me included) The Braves will find a way to dash our hopes in the end like so many times in the past. I personally thought The Braves were out when it seemed Bobby Cox blew game 3 against The Marlins the last time we played them (I still think he left Vasquez in too long and cost us the series) And that “idea” we have all collectively formed is hard to change. We loved the idea of our Braves winning in the early 90’s. But with 1 World Series Championship in 14 (a .071 winning percentage) I think we’ve earned the right to be disillusioned!
Dawn Baker
September 29th, 2009
11:19 am
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU …. this is what I keep telling stupid people who keep saying “The Braves have crummy fans”. No, they don’t. They just don’t have as many fans who come to the ballpark. They have lots of fans, and a lot of great fans. I love the people who whine when the park’s not full, then whine about “bandwagon” fans when it is. We do baseball different in Atlanta. That doesn’t make it bad.
pstlparks
September 29th, 2009
11:21 am
My son’s tuition is due along with books. Water leak caused an increased water bill. Still have another payment to the lawyer for my divorce. This is the first month of the “teacher furlough” so I will have a $300 hit on my pay check. I watch the Braves faithfully almost every night and have for years. Use to go to Atlanta Stadium and sit in outfield for 50 cents and watch a doubleheader. Parked on side streets cause we didn’t have enough money for stadium parking. Brought food in also. Always wondered what the concession stand food tasted like. Smelled good though. Don’t dish the fans. You don’t have to drive 35 miles into Atlanta traffic and borrow money to pay for parking and tickets to be a fan. If attendance made us fans then stop radio and television broadcasts. When I can, I will attend games. Wish I could attend all of them. But until I no longer have bills I will sit at home and jump and yell as though I was there. Go BRAVES!!
smitty
September 29th, 2009
11:24 am
You guys who complain about ticket costs are deluding yourselves. Cheap tickets are available to every game and also season ticket holders sell of their tickets cheap on stubhub.
P. W. Hjort
September 29th, 2009
11:24 am
Some of us don’t go to MLB games because, frankly, it just costs too damn much. As long as they have the corporate seasin ticket buyers (who can write off the costs), they don’t care about the average working class fan.
A family of 4 can go to a Braves game for less than $30. $5 for parking and $6 per ticket. You’re allowed to take any food or non-alcoholic beverage into the stadium. The cost thing is a weak excuse.
Mike Mc.
September 29th, 2009
11:24 am
Are you all ready for the world’s biggest stretch!? Here it is, but hear me out. I think there is a correlation between the lack of interest in the Braves and the negative political climate in the country, particularly in the conservative South. It’s almost in Vogue to tear people down these days. Most of the comments on this blog are about how the team will just let us down, so why come out to support them? Have we all given up on Hope? Yes, I’m referring to the Braves and Obama. If Limbaugh, Hannity or Beck were a baseball fans, they too would give up on this team, throw in the towel and say the Braves administration is evil and needs to be overthrown. I say we give these Braves a chance. I think Wren has built a pretty good ball club, and if we are patient we will see some great things happen. Maybe they won’t make the playoffs this year, but I can’t wait for next year. I still have hope, do you? GO BRAVES!
PMC
September 29th, 2009
11:27 am
It would be interesting to see where our actual numbers are relative to everyone else as we get dumped on… oh and our ball park… resides in an absolutely terrible part of town. There is nothing pleasant around the park. If it were built in an area people actually wanted to be in in the first place…they’d probably have more walk up. Add that to the morons in our city government who decided a ball park didn’t need a mass transit train stop….it’s pretty much one of the worst laid out cities in history.
Irwin M. Fletcher
September 29th, 2009
11:28 am
First, the point about the Rockies’ 2007 run and the attendance comparison. I lived in Denver back then, and assure you that attendance did not spike until the final few days of the season. Their run began and blossomed first in front of empty seats at home, then on the road. Only when they came home for the final weekend — when fans finally started believing that it wasn’t just some meaningless late-season run, that there was a legitimate playoff chance — did attendance reflect a team in a pennant race. If the Braves are within a game of the wild-card spot by Thursday or Friday, then we’ll see a truer comparison.
Bigger picture: I have lived in Seattle, Miami, Denver, St. Louis, Tampa and Charlotte. I’ve spent extensive time in Boston, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Houston and Dallas. And I can say without question that Atlanta is a harder city to navigate between 4 and 7 p.m. than all but Miami. Going to Turner Field on a weeknight after a day of work isn’t something that can be done on a whim; it must be planned — get out of work early, fight traffic or take unwieldy public transportation, which, to get to the ballpark, relies on a transfer to a shuttle bus. Getting to the stadium on a weeknight isn’t an outing; it feels more like an undertaking. Getting to the park for millions of New Yorkers or Bostonians isn’t nearly as rough; the cities have tighter urban/suburban cores, and for much of the fan base, it requires getting on a train, making a quick transfer to another train, and being dropped at the ballpark. It could scarcely be easier. These are also populations that are accustomed to public transportation; much of the Braves’ fanbase is suburban, averse to non-SUV transportation and wouldn’t know a light rail from a light fixture. This, too, hurts the attendance.
I mentioned Miami as the only city worse than Atlanta. It is not a coincidence that their attendance problems make the Braves look like the perpetually sold-out Red Sox by comparison. Getting to Land Shark Stadium by first pitch from Miami or Ft. Lauderdale is next to impossible after a day at the office.
Jeff R
September 29th, 2009
11:28 am
Well, you know, showing up at the park is really how fans show loyalty and support. But I agree with Mark. This post season chase snuck up on all of us. The Braves are prcisely are doing what they need to do but what most of us fans didn’t think likely: playing red hot baseball.
I also agree with Mark that if the Braves keep winning, as the week goes on, attendance figures will rise.
john
September 29th, 2009
11:28 am
@ LAdawg uhhh a playoff race? what more do you want?
Tami
September 29th, 2009
11:31 am
Nice…apparently my post of a nearly an hour ago didn’t make it on, so here it is in a nutshell once again:
My thought is that I’m tired of defending myself as a Braves’ fan. Mondays are horrible days to go into Atlanta. If you already live in Atlanta, you should try to go to the game. Also, I’m coming down with a cold or something. Felt like crap yesterday; only slightly better today. At any rate, I do have a life and can’t always do what I’d like to do when I want to do it. Either time or money always factors in and changes the plan.
If I can’t be at the game, I’m watching the games faithfully if I can be at home and at a TV. If not, I’m listening on the radio or following via my cell if and whenever possible. I’ve not jumped off and on the bandwagon this season — I’m part of what makes up the bandwagon. I can’t always make it to a game or afford it.
That being said, even though this week is rent week, once I get paid, I plan to try to come this weekend. That is assuming I have the money. Whether I’m there or not, I’m extremely proud of this team for not caving in and giving up. True…the Rockies have to keep losing and the Braves have to keep winning. No room for error is left. But, I love the fact that they are officially the hottest team in MLB. No one, and I mean NO ONE wants to play them right now. The Rockies & the Phillies are very nervous — they have to be. The Braves are putting a lot of pressure on both teams. Hopefully, that’s making them up their game. And, no one wants to face the “hottest team in MLB” in a short series. I LOVE IT…keep going guys. And, whether I can be there at Turner Field or not — GO, BRAVES!
PMC
September 29th, 2009
11:32 am
Seats are available for 1 dollar and 10 to 15 easily every single night. You don’t have to eat or drink at the ball park. Expense is not an issue. You can get a shuttle from 5 pts if you do take marta even though it takes forever to get to the game. Expense… not really a good argument. People go when they are interested or they go to have something fun to do… generally that happens on the weekends.
Technically a family of 4 can go for lets say 12 to park. You could technically go for 16 bucks. Eat at home, get skyline seats… that family of 4 is just unmotivated because it’s easier to stay home and watch it on TV.
JMar
September 29th, 2009
11:32 am
I’m paying very close attention, and rushing home to watch the games on television after work, for the first time in months. Can only go to so many Braves games, and I’m saving my visits to Turner for the weekend series against the Nats.
Tami
September 29th, 2009
11:34 am
Nice…apparently my post of nearly an hour ago didn’t make it on, so here it is in a nutshell once again:
My thought is that I’m tired of defending myself as a Braves’ fan. Mondays are horrible days to go into Atlanta. If you already live in Atlanta, you should try to go to the game. Also, I’m coming down with a cold or something. Felt like crap yesterday; only slightly better today. At any rate, I do have a life and can’t always do what I’d like to do when I want to do it. Either time or money always factors in and changes the plan.
If I can’t be at the game, I’m watching the games faithfully if I can be at home and at a TV. If not, I’m listening on the radio or following via my cell if and whenever possible. I’ve not jumped off and on the bandwagon this season — I’m part of what makes up the bandwagon. I can’t always make it to a game or afford it.
That being said, even though this week is rent week, once I get paid, I plan to try to come this weekend. That is assuming I have the money. Whether I’m there or not, I’m extremely proud of this team for not caving in and giving up. True…the Rockies have to keep losing and the Braves have to keep winning. No room for error is left. But, I love the fact that they are officially the hottest team in MLB. No one, and I mean NO ONE wants to play them right now. The Rockies & the Phillies are very nervous — they have to be. The Braves are putting a lot of pressure on both teams. Hopefully, that’s making them up their game. And, no one wants to face the “hottest team in MLB” in a short series. I LOVE IT…keep going guys. And, whether I can be there at Turner Field or not — GO, BRAVES!
JEZ
September 29th, 2009
11:34 am
It’s hard for me to get excited because IF..and still an IF we get into the playoffs, our relievers or at least the only ones worth using are tired and worn out..their arms are about to fall off because Cox keeps throwing them out there. Our starting pitching has been the best in baseball..even above the cardinals because right now all they have is Wainright and Carpenter and we roughed up Carpenter last time we played him so…
Michael B
September 29th, 2009
11:35 am
I’m an out of town fan. If I could be there I would. I will be there this weekend. But yes, the Braves are playing great and yes I do care.
siskel_god
September 29th, 2009
11:36 am
I am scared to believe in this team again, everytime we’ve had any run this year my hearts been broke the next week. I live in the flood zone and am still without cable and internet so I listened to the game on the radio last night and the crowd was certainly into the game. I think the floods are playing a bigger role than anything and the fact that this team doesn’t play an exciting brand of baseball, not alot of homers or stolen bases on offense and unless Hanson or Vasquez is pitching you get alot of groundball outs on defense and not many k’s. Everyone kinda wrote these guys off a couple weeks ago but if we sweep the fish, and are within 1 of the rox with the nats in town to end the year for a weekend set, the ted will be soldout all weekend long. MB what if the Braves end in a tie with the rox, is it a one game playoff? I think we split the season series, right?
Hasslehoff
September 29th, 2009
11:36 am
I’d say people are still fans but don’t want to fool with battling downtown traffic, beggars, expensive parking and surly police.
JEZ
September 29th, 2009
11:37 am
Wow, Tami not trying to be mean but TMI babe..TMI…this blog isn’t the place to air out all the dirty laundry.
Guthro
September 29th, 2009
11:38 am
The first post (Todd) says “Every time I get interested in this stupid team they let me down”. The team’s not stupid. The reply is.
Unfortunately many other posts echo the same stupid idea. Four of five teams in the division will let their fans down. Thirteen of fourteen teams in the league will let their fans down.
If the Rockies win 14 of 16, do you think only 15,000 fans show up at their next game?
There’s something seriously wrong with a lot of Atlanta’s baseball fans.
scott
September 29th, 2009
11:38 am
SEC Football is king and always will be here. I go to Braves games and usually the visiting team has more fans. In 1989 and last year Mets fans tried to kick my butt for rooting for my home town fans.
This year at the Red Sox game there were more Red Sox fans than Braves fan. Atlanta does not deserve the team they have. In most major cities it is easy to get to the park. It sucks hard here to get to it. Then when you leave you sit in a traffic jam for an hour. Move the stadium to gwinnett or north fulton and it will be packed. I watch on TV but I will not go and be around the fickle fans.
Kennesaw Dad
September 29th, 2009
11:39 am
I went last night and though the crowd was embarrasingly small, the ones that showed up were really in to it. And at the right times if that makes any sense.
Hopefully all the bandwagon fans will hop on this weekend and give the Braves what they deserve.
Loud support
smitty
September 29th, 2009
11:39 am
Yeah those $250 season tickets just break the bank
DR
September 29th, 2009
11:41 am
We just bought tickets for Wednesday. Usually, we only go to games for Bark in the Park and watch the rest on TV, but this run is kind of exciting – Let give them some support!
Don
September 29th, 2009
11:42 am
Have you considered that fans have seen Bobby Cox blow game after game previously this season and in past seasons with his actions and lack of actions – to the point that they do not care – or they think – what’s the use???
heartofdarkness
September 29th, 2009
11:46 am
Tough to beat the vantage you get on TV, where you see the expected location of the pitch, movement on the pitch and can feel the pitcher’s confidence rise and fall. Rarely will I find a companion who knows baseball as well as Joe and Boog, who have developed an interesting rapport in the booth over the last year and one half. I love being able to see the facial expressions on the players as they step out of the box, and the team reaction to hits, sacrifices and teammates scoring. The psychology of this team has been steadily improving all year and is presently at its highest level of the year. Whether it works out or not, this has actually been one of the best ever for the Atlanta Braves and the genius of Bobby Cox has been on display each night, as he has allowed this team to come together and believe in itself.
Hockey and football should be seen live, baseball — I’m not so sure.
BuzztheKiller
September 29th, 2009
11:47 am
As a fan since 82′ I have seen the lows and the highs with this team and if I can’t watch a few innings always check the boxscores. I have been to one game this year with my son’s t-ball team. I average one game a year with small kids and a busy job. I still put my level of fan support with anyone in terms of interest and passion. I just can’t make it to the field as often as I used to. I imagine I am not alone. So, really don’t care how many people go to the games in Boston or Philly or Denver. Maybe those folks have less to do in life? Maybe there is not as many choices in those cities (I have been to all of them, so that is possible). Who cares what other cities are doing? Go Braves- win the next six and you are in. Either the Phils or the Rocks slip up and we slide in….
Tomas
September 29th, 2009
11:49 am
The problem with the Atlanta Attendance is much of the Good seat are Corporate owned…Also remember the Stadium seat almost 50,096…they have to reduce this to about 43,000 and bring the Fence back little big and reduce the Cost of the Ticket.
Don
September 29th, 2009
11:51 am
Bobby Cox’s incompetence (blunders, actions, lack of actions) has cost (conservatively speaking) at least 10 games this season — and that is not even talking about the overall devastating effect that his (like always) failure to teach/emphasize/demand working the count, being selective, making the opposing pitcher throw a lot of pitches – has had on run production. With our pitching, his obvious incompetence has cost the Braves the Division and probably the Wild Card spot – Yet the Braves reward him with another Contract. The only possible chance we even have for next year is if our pitching is so far far superior to all other teams that it overcomes the management and like thereof by Bobby Cox. This is same story as always. – So why should the fans care.
David
September 29th, 2009
11:53 am
To be truthful, I’m afraid to watch the games, because when I watch — like I did in that dooming, three game stretch against the Reds — they lose. So I’m keeping up with them on ESPN and following this chase closely. That said, I’m much too nervous to tune in. Once we get in the playoffs, I’m there; but I’ll wait to jinx them until then.
brent a.
September 29th, 2009
11:54 am
I’m still waiting to use my ticket for Game 5 of the 2005 NLDS.
I’ve left Atlanta; otherwise, I’d be in attendance at least a couple of times this week.
Northside Native
September 29th, 2009
11:54 am
So, explain to me why I should blow $100 (tickets, parking, food, beer, gasoline) to go to Turner field and get home at midnight when I can sit at home and watch the game on TV. The Braves give it away for free; why should I buy it?
linzo
September 29th, 2009
11:55 am
Hope is a dangerous thing.
Elliot Garcia
September 29th, 2009
11:58 am
Not distracted Mark, just unemployed at the moment. I would like to take my family to the Braves games but I must cover my mortgage first.
slow roller
September 29th, 2009
11:58 am
I wish I did care more….NFL football kinda has me distracted…..as well as all the local sportstalk radio guys who really don’t care about the Braves either…..
Bobby has been doing this so long….and screwing up 5-10 games a year. It just seems impossible at this point. Rockies would really have to stink it up to blow it now even if the Braves could win out.
MightyQuinn
September 29th, 2009
11:58 am
Baseball is such a streaky game. I remember in ‘96 we fell behind St. Louis 3 games to 1, and then exploded, destroying the Cards three straight and taking the first two easily in Yankee Stadium. We all know what happened next. But I remember that as being the greatest five game win streak the Braves ever put together. How different would things be if they had added two more and gotten back to back World Series titles? Relating this to now, a lot of us are scared to get excited because we believe the other cleat is going to drop. That said, I’m going to try to get to a game this week! Go Braves!
brent a.
September 29th, 2009
11:59 am
Just had an idea . . .
if the economy is the excuse (and it’s a valid one – I had to leave Atlanta due to the economy), perhaps the Braves should offer 5,000 to 10,000 tickets to people who bring proof of unemployment from the Georgia Department of Labor.
Falconsforlife
September 29th, 2009
12:00 pm
I’d go to the game if Turner Field was in a better spot. For someone who lives and works on the north side, getting to the Ted is next to impossible during the week.
Hopefully 20 years from now when the Falcons and Braves have new stadiums, they do the smart thing and put them on the north side. Better areas (significantly less crim, no pan handlers, not as dirty), more wealth, and a large chunk of ATL sports fans who just can’t deal with traffic during the week.
johnnyboy
September 29th, 2009
12:00 pm
Maybe they believed the AJC reporters saying the season was over weeks ago.
fieldofdreams
September 29th, 2009
12:02 pm
To the blowhards who say they don’t care about attendance in other cities: I bet the Braves’ players disagree. I bet the players wish they had the home field advantage that the Red Sox, Yankees, and Rockies have. The players can’t help but notice the apathy here, and the enthusiasm in other towns.
Doug
September 29th, 2009
12:06 pm
It’s simple. Atlanta “fans” are not fans. They’re entertainment consumers. Many professional sports came late to the south — 1966, only 2-3 generations, for the Braves. You don’t have the core interest that there is in the older cities in the north. In Southern Ohio opening day for the Reds is an unofficial day off. Yankees/Red Sox/Mets. Cubs/White Sox/Cards. Those teams and rivalries have lifelong fans that care about them. In Atlanta, add millions of transplants, transient workers on their way up the ladder, and this is what you get. Ho-hum interest.
timthebrave
September 29th, 2009
12:06 pm
I support them all year long. I support and go even when they are horrible. I go to about 15 games a year. 8-6 on the year so far and 1 more to go to. It’s just more fun to be a Braves fan when they are playing so well. I got tickets a month ago to Sunday’s game and told my brother that it would be to clinch a playoff shot. My crazy prediction might just come through. Go to a dawgs game if you want to see die hard fans. It would be nice to see a sellout(for the players) but it’s also fun to pay for $5 seats and go sit real close in the empty corporate seats. Go Braves!
brent a.
September 29th, 2009
12:07 pm
I hope Atlanta NEVER moves its stadiums to the northside.
The crime argument is waaaayyyyy over-rated.
Nobody in the city would want to go north and go the games, either. There is no perfect spot; but at least downtown provides some synergies.
Use Marta.
Jimmy
September 29th, 2009
12:08 pm
No one cares about baseball it is football season.
Falconsforlife
September 29th, 2009
12:08 pm
Also Atlanta is a football town. College first, NFL distant second. The Braves probably fall into 4th place as far as how much this city cares about them.
UGA first, Tech second, DIRTY BIRDS third.
As much as I love baseball, and the Braves, the sport just isn’t as exciting. The fanfare isn’t the same. We’re spending the small amount of extra money we have these days on football. Sorry other sports. Football is king in the south and that won’t change.
STOP IT
September 29th, 2009
12:08 pm
Listen the Yankees and BoSox are not selling out they are a tourist spot. Atlanta is a great town for sports and we always show up. We just don’t always sell out the venues. Just stop with this topic and go if you and don’t if you can’t. Let the players decide if they are going to get the fans into it by making the playoffs. Just FYI the Yanks don’t sell out. If the Braves make the playoffs it still might not be sold out big whoop. Just focus on making the playoffs.
brent a.
September 29th, 2009
12:08 pm
Doug,
excellent point.
timthebrave,
I hope you get to see the clincher on Sunday
Go Braves!
retired scout
September 29th, 2009
12:11 pm
Why does anyone care how many people show up for the game? The quality of the team is in no way related to how many people are in the stands, and most players don’t notice and don’t care. This is reminiscent of the uga bloggers who constantly brag about their “crowd size” as if that somehow makes them a better team. A better parralel for the crowd size people to think about might be the guy who buys a big SUV or fancy “muscle” car as a substitute for actually being “manly”, if you get my drift. A word for the Cox basher’s….so the guy who is fourth in wins all-time, and set a never to be equaled run of 14 straight division titles is “incompetent”? So Don, and all of the other Cox bashing baseball geniuses, when he is a being inducted as a first ballot Hall of Famer perhaps you can take consolation by polishing up your old little league trophy and remembering the big play you made in right field.
Chaz
September 29th, 2009
12:11 pm
Look, I’m unemployed. Not gonna pay good money to watch millionaires play games. $7 beers don’t make it any easier, either.
OLD CHOPPER
September 29th, 2009
12:11 pm
Fact is, the Braves haven’t given us much to get excited about all season. Now football season is here and Braves attendance competes with that in a state where football is king. We sit here and wait……is it the real thing? “Build it and they will come. We need to see a little more. A seven game winning streak and a “shot” at the playoffs is not going to make me get the tomahawk out of the closet and knock the dust off of it just yet.
Go Braves
September 29th, 2009
12:11 pm
I’ve been to around 20 games already this season, and I’ll be there tomorrow. Go Braves!
timthebrave
September 29th, 2009
12:12 pm
My friend just called and I got free tickets for tommorrow. Whoohooo. Go Braves!
Falconsforlife
September 29th, 2009
12:13 pm
Crime argument overrated? Sure. How many people feel completely safe leaving the Ted at night? If you do you’re delusional.
Marta isn’t convienient either. It’s almost as much of a pain as it is driving to the stadium, especially leaving games.
I guarantee that if the stadium was north of downtown atlanta proper there would be more people at the games on average, especially during the week.
KMP
September 29th, 2009
12:13 pm
I will be there tonight and possibly tomorrow night! Nothing better than fall baseball at the Ted and the Braves playing meaningful games late in the season! Go Braves!!
sidslidkid
September 29th, 2009
12:17 pm
Nice article. And no I haven’t given up. I’ll be there every night until we are eliminated. Come on guys you can make it to at least one of the last 6 games!
P. W. Hjort
September 29th, 2009
12:18 pm
Good article: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-best-defensive-team-of-the-decade
Robbie G.
September 29th, 2009
12:18 pm
My wife is a school teacher and this is the paycheck that got hit with the furlough money. It’s just bad timing for us right now but I would like to go.
BlueEdwards
September 29th, 2009
12:18 pm
As I mentioned before, most people feel that the incessant winning by the Braves will eventually end and the winning by the Braves will eventually collapse and fall short in their quest for the wild card. What people dont realize is that when you watch the Braves you are watching this years world series champion. Yes, I said it, I BELIEVE THE BRAVES WILL WIN THE WORLD SERIES THIS SEASON. I said it when I found out that Bobby Cox was managing one more season. At that time I knew the Braves would win the whole thing; plus Bobby would come back for another season and win another championship to conclude his illustrious career with BACK-TO-BACK TITLES. I KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE OF ALL THE WINNING THE BRAVES HAD TO DO JUST TO CLIMB TO WITHIN TWO GAMES OF THE ROCKIES. Bobby Cox will retire by having won two world championships; its not a fantasy, it will become a reality real soon. Stay tuned!
Braves Fan in Purgatory
September 29th, 2009
12:18 pm
I live in South Florida…official home to the worst fans in baseball. The Marlins routinely draw A FEW HUNDRED to games…and they’re building a new ballpark? But I digress…I’ve been down here carrying the flag for my Braves for 17 years now…fighting with the migrant Phillies and Mets fans, the biggest jackasses in all of sports.
I do believe we WILL make it to the postseason again finally. We are the hottest team in the NL since the end of June and hotter now than we have EVER been. No team has a better starting rotation or consistent bullpen than us. Not since 1991 have I seen this team play with more enthusiasm. I just hope we have an opportunity to get in and avenge our loss at the hands of the Evil Empire in 1996.
Chris
September 29th, 2009
12:19 pm
Use Marta? Seriously? That’s your solution?
I live in Kennesaw. Getting to the park and a Marta station takes almost the same amount of time. Factor in slow trains and an absolutely HORRIBLE shuttle service that still makes you trapse around Underground to get to it, and I’d rather pass. Not to mention the extreme overcrowding on the NB platform going home. It’s the worst mass-transit solution I’ve ever seen. At least with Phillips, you don’t have to get on a bus.
And who wants to drive to the games at rush hour, and have another mini-rush hour trying to leave the stadium? I’d rather put that money to watching it in HD at home, with cheap beer. Don’t have to hire a babysitter, either. And I can get a decent amount of sleep for when I leave the house at 5am.
The Braves are my favorite sports team, regardless of sport. I try to make it down there occasionally, but for the rigors of everyday life, going to a baseball game with the nation’s 4th worst commute and worst mass transit system isn’t a pleasant experience.
Strangers waiting, up and down the boulevard
September 29th, 2009
12:21 pm
*****BEST IDEA ON THIS BLOG*******
is….. hire about 189 heavy duty construction helicopters, airlift Turner Field and drop it right on the forever-empty lot located right by 14th Street and Peachtree Street, where the new “Symphony Hall” has been suppose to go for the last umpteen years.
Wouldn’t it be GREAT to have a stadium located intown, as opposed to one sitting right smack in the middle of Crackheadtown, Atlanta. Wouldn’t it be nice to have public transit take you to the stadium without annoying bus transfers. Wouldn’t it be nice if those of us living intown could easily walk or bike to the stadium without risking our lives walking through the ghetto-hoods surrounding The Ted. Wouldn’t it be nice to feel like the Braves are truly part of our city and not something sitting out in “District 9″ that we inconcenience ourselves to go to.
Until this happens, expect no more than 15,000 in attendance ANY weeknight when school is in session. Atlantans would much rather watch from home in their safe suburbs or intown condos as opposed to going to no-man’s-land Atlanta to watch the game.
Thoughts???
Reid in EAV
September 29th, 2009
12:21 pm
It’s hard to re-heat a soufflé. I had given up on the Braves when they lost five straight and plummeted right out of the race, right when when they had a chance to close the gap with some time to spare. (It also had to do a bit with marital harmony: after watching at least 120 games live or on TV, my spouse was ready to stick a Tomahawk in the Bravos.)
So last night was the first time I’d actually watched a full game on TV since then. I expect to be watching every one from here on out — and will be there on Friday night. Go Braves! My apologies for ever giving up on you!
Marc in FL
September 29th, 2009
12:21 pm
People complaining about their chances of winning their division do deserve the “bandwagon” label.
Sporting events are fun, they’re whole purpose is to entertain, and for just a little more than a movie would cost, you can see a live baseball game. It sounds to me like the problem is people focus too much on the wins and losses and not enough on the fun factor that is sports in general.
Unless you’re betting money on the games, just try to enjoy yourself, you’ll be less stressed out and this team will be better for it with fans that just want to be part of the ride.
Legend of Len Barker
September 29th, 2009
12:22 pm
Mark, be careful of saying no one is paying attention to Braves games. Do you remember what happened to Jesse Outlar?
You know, I’d support the Braves more at the end if they supported the fans more in the middle. There were games in there where no one was giving much of an effort. If the Braves played anywhere but right smack dab in the middle of Atlanta, I might go watch a game. But I don’t feel like fighting Atlanta traffic or MARTA and dropping a ton of money on a ticket.
For $7, I can get the same amount of entertainment from a high school football game. It lasts about the same time, I can lean against the fence, and watch a bunch of kids without agents play their hearts out.
LSWho?
September 29th, 2009
12:23 pm
All of my friends are scared to watch…the Bravos have done all this while we weren’t watching. If they can somehow do it, we’ll be there for the postseason.
OLD CHOPPER
September 29th, 2009
12:24 pm
Did I mention it’s not as easy to pick up a braves game on the TV anymore?
Pete
September 29th, 2009
12:24 pm
Brent A, what synergies are you referring to re: stadium being downtown? Do you hang out after the game at some hidden restaurants/bars that I havent found yet, or do you head home right away (like everyne else)? And taking MARTA is a royal pain. Unlike most other sports cities, for some strange reason MARTA does not go directly to the TED, and transferring is a real hassle.
rhynster
September 29th, 2009
12:24 pm
Driving down to Braves games during the week is not worth the hassle when the game is on TV.
Anyone who doesn’t recognize that’s the biggest problem has their blinders on.
It seems inevitable that the pro sports teams will eventually have to move north of the city.
Will I drive PAST downtown to go to a game on a Monday night? No way.
But drive to Cumming or Alpharetta? Hell yeah.
Does that make me a bad fan?
I don’t know, but it makes me a more productive employee in the morning.
Felix Millan
September 29th, 2009
12:24 pm
Until you have managed and won as many games as Bobby Cox has, please direct yhe negative management comments to someone who deserves them, such as the Nats manager, Thanks Felix , SS
mount18
September 29th, 2009
12:25 pm
I was there last night. Great game guys! I can tell they are playing with a carefree ease and have a solid chance making it into October. You’ll see and/or hear me till Sunday!
Angus
September 29th, 2009
12:25 pm
Stubhub has a slew of tix available for less than $10 – some as low as $0.70 each. Parking was $5 in the gypsy lots last night.
OLD CHOPPER
September 29th, 2009
12:26 pm
By the way Mark……Shut your Yap before you curse them. please refrain from saying the words “Atlanta Braves” for the next few days will ya?
BIG DAWG
September 29th, 2009
12:27 pm
Fair Weather…..That is the only kind of fans in Atlanta. always has been. Gooo Braves!
lets_believe
September 29th, 2009
12:28 pm
I know what the main problem is. EVERY single time Braves fans get excited about a big game, the stadium is sold out, and the Braves lose right in front of our faces! How many years in a row did that happen?? People are fragile and scared…I’m sure everyone is watching on TV and catching on to this. I bet if it gets any more exciting by Thursday, we won’t be having this conversation
I have already heard lots of people hoping to make it this weekend!
ChippersLoveChild
September 29th, 2009
12:28 pm
Damn you Bradley… you could mention “even the Hawks,” but no love for the Thrashers. My eyes and my mind are on the season opener on Saturday! You don’t speak for everyone in this town!
Brave$ Fan
September 29th, 2009
12:29 pm
I haven’t forgotten about how much my Braves Season Tickets cost me.
I’ll be there.
Universal Heartthrob
September 29th, 2009
12:30 pm
I stopped following the Braves once NCAA and NFL football started. I think that has a lot to do with recent attendance as well as the other reasons listed in the article. My opinion has always been that if you want more consistent attendance move the location of Turner Field.
KP
September 29th, 2009
12:32 pm
I, like most other Braves fans, thought it was over during the 1-6 skid around the beginning of the month, but the Braves have started winning because they are finally scoring runs and the bullpen is finally holding leads. As for the playoff rotation, you know what I think of when you say “Vasquez?Jurrjens?Hanson?”? Championship…
Claudel Washington
September 29th, 2009
12:33 pm
Paul H said all that needs to be said at 1022am. Braves beat the good teams and lose to the crappy ones which just cancels each other out. They haven’t done a damn thing all year worth mentioning and now they want us to fill up the seats. As another poster mentioned, the stadium is too far away from the mainstream population. If Turner Field was on the north side of town, every game would be a sell out.
Tomahawk Holmes
September 29th, 2009
12:33 pm
There are obviously a bunch of idiots in Atlanta. When I say idiots I mean these people who say the Braves are terrible, Bobby Cox is terrible, the team is horrible etc.. yet you same people find time to read articles about the Braves’ success, post a blog and bash them by saying the Braves stink and you don’t care what they do. IF YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT THE “LOSER” BRAVES – WHY ARE YOU READING AND POSTING HERE? You freakin morons.
BRAVES WIN!
BRAVES WIN!
BRAVES WIN!
Paul A
September 29th, 2009
12:33 pm
The boss gave me some great tickets for this friday’s game about a month ago. I laughed them off and thought maybe I’ll use these or maybe I’ll give them away to some poor dreamer….
Not any more lads. See ‘ya friday night from the expensive seats and VIP parking lot. Go Braves!!
Brad
September 29th, 2009
12:34 pm
South Georgia is rooting for you Atlanta. I think South Georgia cares more about the Braves than the city of Atlanta does!
Falconsforlife
September 29th, 2009
12:34 pm
Getting to the Ted is impossible for a large chunk of the fan base. Use Marta? Are you serious. Have you ever actually TAKEN Marta to a Braves game? Falcons game?
Marta is awful. Getting downtown during the week for people who don’t work downtown is impossible. Even then, if you work downtown, getting your family downtown to go to games is impossible. If the Braves are smart the next stadium will be north of the city. Anyone who argues that is delusional. They would almost certainly average 5-10k more people if the stadium was in a decent location on the northside.
Strangers waiting, up and down the boulevard
September 29th, 2009
12:34 pm
Airlift Turner Field from the “District 9″ location it sits now, drop it off at 14th Street and Peachtree Street (where the new Symphony Hall is “suppose” to go), and THEN you may see sellouts in a playoff race!!!!!! GO BRAVES!!! (and Go Brewers for the next 3 nights!!!)
DC Bravesfan
September 29th, 2009
12:34 pm
All these excuses, you act as if they don’t have these same problems in Boston, New York, Chicago, St. Louis, Denver, LA.
As for belief, look back at the last 9 post seasons, how many WS winners were the ‘Hot Wild Card team’. If they do win the WC, they’re my pick to win it all…
Tomahawk Holmes
September 29th, 2009
12:35 pm
This blog does nothing but make me angry. Reading these posts with these paper bag weak blanket statements bashing the Braves.
GO SOMEWHERE ELSE IF YOU ARE SOOOO CLUELESS TO THE REALITY OF BASEBALL – IDIOTS!
give them what they want
September 29th, 2009
12:36 pm
Give the people of Atlanta the players they grew to love in the 90’s and you’ll have your fans back. With each Hall Of Fame retirement there’s been less to cheer for. In several years when Hanson, McCann and Escobar are perennial all-stars the fans will come back.
midnite
September 29th, 2009
12:36 pm
Moving the Braves and Falcons to the Northside would probably make a huge difference in attendance. There are NO “synergies” Downtown unless you define synergy as ridiculous traffic and crime. The rude, surly cops and street punks ruin the experience around Turner and the Dome. MARTA just flat out sux. The majority of fans come from the Northside. I still, however, go to Braves, Falcons, and Hawks games.
Claudel Washington
September 29th, 2009
12:38 pm
Brent A – you’re an idiot.
Reid in EAV
September 29th, 2009
12:38 pm
Since all the usual knee-jerk comments have come up here from the northsiders, (Waaaah, traffic! Waaaah, bad transit! Waaaah, people who don’t look like me — aka “crime”), allow me a moment to gloat. East Atlanta is a fantastic place for a Braves fan to live. I can get to a free parking spot (shhh) in Grant Park or thereabouts in just a two-minute drive from my home, then it’s a nice walk to the gate. I can watch the first inning on TV and be ticketed and seated by the bottom of the third if I decide to go all of a sudden. Then the traffic heading east toward home is nonexistent. I’m usually walking in the front door as people are still trying to escape the Gold Lot.
So for those of you driving your obnoxious SUVs to your ugly houses on cul-de-sacs dumping out to congested collector roads containing ugly character-less strip malls, then complaining about the difficulty of getting to events in the city that you decided to settle so far away from, allow me to play a moving tune on the world’s smallest violin. You made your bed. Now lie in it.
Pete
September 29th, 2009
12:41 pm
“In several years when Hanson, McCann and Escobar are perennial all-stars the fans will come back.”
McCann is already a perennial All Star.
Good Grief
September 29th, 2009
12:41 pm
Quite frankly i don’t care who’s laughing at us or whats being said about the fan turnout at this point. I couldnt write article like this or be like Joe Simpson was during last night broadcast after what some folks have suffered through the past couple of weeks. Im like this, if the Braves care so much about fan turnout and its about the fans why not invite all of the ones who were effected by flooding and now have nowhere to live out to the ballpark for free.
As has been said in this blog, if the Braves were winning and in the hunt earlier (going back to when they got swept by the REDS!) then the stadium would have continued to see a good fan turnout. If the Braves are a game back going into Friday night or tied for that matter im sure the fans will be there, but there’s just to much going on outside of entertainment and sports right now. A lot of folks have things to deal with. It wasn’t just homes affected by the flooding. There were a lot of businesses affected so we’ll see…I’ve definitely continued to watch the Braves and i’m still believing a rooting for them.
Carl
September 29th, 2009
12:43 pm
I gave up on them the day Chipper Jones blamed the fans for the team losing to St.Louis. Trust me- the braves wont go anywhere- nice run but same song and dance too little too late….
Claudel Washington
September 29th, 2009
12:46 pm
Reid – You’re the exact reason I don’t live in ATL, well that as well as crime, congestion and over priced housing. I’ve been to Cabbagetown many times on the weekend and it’s full of pierced, tattooed and dyed haired hippies. You probably HAVE to walk to the games because your car and/or flatscreen has been stolen. No one envys you. Most people that live in E. Atl could care less about sports, muchless the Braves. You are the exception.
brent a.
September 29th, 2009
12:46 pm
synergies, in general, I’m referring to the fact it is very easy to live, work, eat, and get around downtown and attend sporting events. If you are along or near a Marta line, you can also do this very easily.
The shuttle actually works quite well, or you can walk down to the stadium from the GA State station. very easy to do. Very safe during games due to the add’l security, and very good exercise.
It’s a shame that so few people seem to realize this.
sorry for those of you that live out in the boondocks, I really do. IMO, Atlanta has some of the worst, most complicated, and inconvenient suburbs of any major metro city in the US.
When I lived in town, Marta was great. Walking was easy, etc.
It’s sad that so many people live in the boonies and never come to realize just how much fan can really be had, easily and inexpensively, if they just chose to live and work in the city of Atlanta.
But hey, if you work and live up in Kennesaw, I completely understand.
Bravissimo
September 29th, 2009
12:46 pm
Ya do know that were only 4 back of the Phils, and the Rockies are only 4 1/2 behind the Dodgers. Wouldnt it be funny if the Phils didnt make it and the dodgers were the wildcard???
Ive been unemployed since April and live in South GA. Id love to go to the games but alas…
FalconsFan
September 29th, 2009
12:46 pm
Falconsforlife ,
There’s a reason stadiums around the country are built in areas that are not the best, the property is cheap. Quite a bit of land is needed for a stadium and its surrounding parking lot.. keep dreaming of a stadium in your ticky tacky little suburban neighborhood, because if one is moved there your neighborhood will soon be run down and crime ridden. (because your land is now deemed to be cheap)
SoWeGa Fanatic
September 29th, 2009
12:47 pm
200 mile drive and $200 expense. Nuff said.
FalconsFan
September 29th, 2009
12:47 pm
Does anyone know how long construction is going to be taking place this weekend on the downtown connector? Construction has been a major deterrent for many Braves fans this season. (and last)
Johnny
September 29th, 2009
12:48 pm
If you want to build interest, dont publish stories about five reasons the Braves wont make the playoffs……Believe folks.
Recruit1
September 29th, 2009
12:48 pm
Atlanta is just not a sports town…..too many relocated folks from the North who still feel a connection with their team(s) that they have rooted for in the past…example: I have lived in ATL for 25 years, but remain a St. Louis Cardinals fan….as a kid listened to a broadcast team of Harry Caray and Jack Buck….sticks with you….
paul
September 29th, 2009
12:49 pm
how bout if the braves really want us in there, they REALLY bring down ticket prices…. The braves, like every other franchise gouge it’s fans into submission. We are suppose to keep giving no matter what… How bout do something more on their end beside printing a sign!!!!!!
Melanie Oudin
September 29th, 2009
12:49 pm
Braves Fans. COME ON!!!!
Good Grief
September 29th, 2009
12:50 pm
Also a point about the stadium location. “Crime” is such a weak excuse and for that matter traffic is too. So they say, “lets put the stadium on the north side”. Where at exactly? The new stadium would still end up in Atlanta, not Gwinnett, so either way if you live north of Atlanta you’ll end up having to drive south. If they put a stadium on the north side of town there be just as much traffic and folks on the south side would then make the same complaints
Atl Hawk
September 29th, 2009
12:50 pm
I agree with Irwin….nicely put I never thought of it that way. But besides that the thruth remains…we gave up and started looking toward next season. It was all of a sudden and people did not prepare for this. We were getting the grills ready for FLA and PHI this season man! Despite how people get to Turner is not going to be a problem. Traffic or no traffic we show up late anyway. On a season that was already done in our minds, you damn right nobody’s showing up. But now, oh but now if we get a least within 1 game of the Rocks,,Espn Fox and SportsSouth will be in ATL….Believe we will be there and tickets want be available.
brent a.
September 29th, 2009
12:51 pm
Yes, Inman Park and Candler Park are just chock full of tattoeed, pierced hippies. And terrible places to live!
Falconsforlife
September 29th, 2009
12:52 pm
Reid- and we all see how well East Atlantans support the team. Most of you can’t afford tickets I assume.
FalconsFan- Yes I know that’s a reason, but it doesn’t mean moving a stadium to a decent area would automatically run the area down. The Falcons are looking at the old GM plant in Doraville for their next stadium. Now the traffic in that area is awful, but the potential for life around the stadium is much better than it is at the Dome. The Braves could almost certainly pick something either inside the perimeter on the northside, or just outside of it, and more people would show up. There is no denying this fact. The current placement of the Ted is terrible. Getting to it via Marta is a ridiculous pain, and the area around the stadium is the absolute worst.
Just Sayin'
September 29th, 2009
12:52 pm
Like many others have stated, pricing is a big concern. Times are tough financially for most. Millions of people are without jobs. Many have lost their homes to foreclosure, and many others are on the verge of losing their homes too. Health care is bleeding wallets dry. The stock market depleted the retirement savings of most and many would rather sock away those few extra dollars for retirement in lieu of attending some baseball game that they can watch on television.
Most major sports associations are struggling. They are even having problems selling out professional football stadiums. If you have the money and would like to go to the game, then go. Leave the others alone and let them decide for themselves. Just because they choose to watch the game on television doesn’t make them any less of a fan than you.
Go Braves!
Ross
September 29th, 2009
12:52 pm
More on getting to the park – for reasons only they fathom, MARTA make it almost impossible to get to the stadium. It would be a simple matter to run a bus straight from the Peachtree Center MARTA station to the stadium front door – instead, one must go to the hell that is 5 Points, march through a level of filthy purgation to reach underground Atlanta, traipse across a wasteland of kitschy junk stores and restaurants to the loading zone for the existing shuttle, then wait one’s turn in a long line to get crammed onto a shuttle with a surly, unhelpful MARTA drone as driver. So let’s add it up:
Leave work, 4:30 PM
Arrive home in Gwinnett and collect family, 5:30 PM – if lucky
Park at Doraville MARTA – 6:15 PM
Wait 15 minutes for train – 6:30 PM
Ride to 5 points – 7:00 PM
March through purgatory to insults from the bums – 7:10 PM
Wait in line for shuttle (nowhere to sit) – 7:25 PM
Ride to park through traffic – 7:50 PM
Arrive at seats – 8:10 PM
Total time – 3 hours + just to see the first pitch
On the way home, one must march back through the disgusting filth of the corridor from Underground to 5 Points, then try to figure out in the dank must of that hole which train goes north – then repeat the entire process for getting home – by 11:30 PM.
It is any wonder people will not go to the park? It’s impossible. The old stadium up to the 80s could be accessed from any direction – the widening of the connector cut off all simple access to the stadium zone for any reason, including but not limited to ball games. This isn’t rocket science – it’s stupidity on the part of the people who run these things.
davidputty
September 29th, 2009
12:52 pm
I wondered how long it would take, in the midst of an amazing comeback, for some writer to start harping on the attendance. Atlanta isn’t New York where 40K people will wander into a venue just because the lights were turned on. Atlanta has always counted on fans from outlying areas to bulk up the crowds. And in case you missed it, Mark, the there is a recession on and the ticket prices are outrageous. But why couldn’t your main focus be on how the Braves have played and the chase for a playoff spot? It’s like some of you writers can’t stand it; you’ll find the negative in anything.
Jason
September 29th, 2009
12:52 pm
I proud to say I was there to support the team last night, and there is no reason we can get a 50,000 stadium filled with over 5,000,000 people in this town. I don’t think there is any excuse, because in other towns, people don’t have them. My Dad and uncle came from Chicago 30 years ago and adopted the Braves. They can not understand why people are so ignorant to sports in this town. And don’t give me this nonsense about how half the people here are from other places. There are plenty of people in this town who call the Braves their favorite team. I’m so ashamed when my friends from other cities harass me about our team’s support. 50,000/5,000,000 = 1% of this city at the ballgame.
Jason
September 29th, 2009
12:52 pm
I am a true Braves fan and I watch them on tv every chance I get, and just because the stadium is located in the hood and the people that pay to see the games are not in this location does not mean they do not have true fans. It is just a recession and people cannot afford to attend or have their things stolen while at a game.
I will be in attendance this weekend, however!
TN Jeff
September 29th, 2009
12:54 pm
I’m a die hard distant (geographically) fan. BUT, I want the crowds to stay away because the Braves have consistently CHOKED when under pressure. Have the crowd there in recent years has not produced a winning atmosphere for the home team but just the opposite. Curious as to the numbers on High Attendance and actual record????????????????
Angus
September 29th, 2009
12:54 pm
Stub hub has a slew of tix available for less than $10 – some as low as $0.70 each. Parking was $5 in the gypsy lots last night.
UGASlobberknocker
September 29th, 2009
12:55 pm
This isnt a shock,,in fact, outside of a half dizen cities, it is happening everywhere..this was a weeknight/school night in late September ..against the 2nd most glamorous team in the league (behind Wash)..someone we play what seems to be 40 times a yr…if I havent purchased those tix way ahead of time no way Im going..and if I wanted to walk up and buy tix..i would wait til this weekend to a/see if we were still in it and b/get in on the fan appreciation stuff. Thats the way most people feel. I went to 10-12 games this yr and love to go..but a team of wild horses coiuldnt drag me there last night. That doesnt make me a bad fan, just a cost conscious one.
Tim
September 29th, 2009
12:56 pm
I have been watching this team from the beginning of this year and I am excited and rooting them on. I have never lost hope that this was a team to cheer for.
Allan
September 29th, 2009
12:56 pm
Atlantans stopped showing up for playoff games because they had no confidence the Braves could get it done when it counts. The no-shows were proven correct. A clear pattern of post-season failure had emerged, with the Braves organization all the while denying that anything was wrong. I still root for the Braves and attend three to five games a season, but I have not made an emotional investment in the team since 1999, when they were completely humiliated by the Yankees in the World Series. Yes, the Yankees were a better team, but the Braves showed a near total lack of fight and therefore achieved the level of embarrassment they apparently feared they would.
As for the other 12 post-season failures since 1991, most of them involved the Braves losing to a less-talented team.
A team does not have to be loaded from top to bottom to win it all. Several teams over the years have won World Series with less than the Braves had every year from 1991 through 2005. Give me one post-season of the Braves rising to the occasion, of digging deep inside themselves to get it done. Until then, I remain a non-believer. I refuse to be teased.
Wulfsgirl
September 29th, 2009
12:56 pm
I am a die-hard Braves fan! I am dying to go to a game. I hope to make it out to the field on Friday night. I have never given up on them. I keep on watching. I BELIEVE!!
Shady Kraft
September 29th, 2009
12:56 pm
Mark. To quote a very good song, “Im not superstitious”, later ripped off By LED ZEP in the form of Trampled Underfoot, but, when I quit watching the Braves, they go on a tear!! So Id rather not watch and them win but…where’s the fun in that? I just dont want them to lose because of me. Im very unselfish when it comes to these Braves. p.s. If your Frank Wren, and forgive me if you’ve already written about this, ( I just had a cleanup on aisle 5) we need at least one bat and we have are stacked with arms. Who do you deal next year? It’s between Vasquez and Hudson right? What are your thoughts? Thanks.
Falconsforlife
September 29th, 2009
12:56 pm
I’d be happy fi it just had rail access. It’s currently impossible to get to the stadium via Marta. Yes having it on the northside would be nice, but it probably won’t happen. Just move it to a spot that you can get to via rails and the attendance will increase.
UGASlobberknocker
September 29th, 2009
12:57 pm
brent a…bad idea…why would the Braves offer free tickets to people who likely wouldnt spend any money at the concessions..that is why you give away free tix.
GT Falcon
September 29th, 2009
12:58 pm
The only weeknight I can make games is Thursday nights. Very hard to make a game on a monday night. I’ll be watching on TV though. If they win tonight and Wednesday I’ll def be there Friday night. Go Bravos!!
Ryan
September 29th, 2009
12:58 pm
Move the stadium to Buckhead – next to a train station – and it would be sold out every night.
Woo Hoo
September 29th, 2009
12:59 pm
Just saw on yahoo that the catch made by colorado last sunday to end the game wasn’t a catch. this is why replay is needed for certain instances like this in baseball. this is huge
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/About-that-Clint-Barmes-catch-on-Sunday-Was-?urn=mlb,192799
The Nerve
September 29th, 2009
12:59 pm
They need to do something to make baseball something other than the hideous BORE that it is. Let the players take the bats with them while they round the bases…make it one strike and one ball…something….anything to make it exciting.
Plus….it’s football season. They should have ended baseball on Labor Day.
Joshua
September 29th, 2009
1:00 pm
For the record, I saw this coming and having been defending my belief the Braves were going to the post season for some time on all kinds of internet forums.
Joey
September 29th, 2009
1:01 pm
As I recall is was the AJC, including Bradley, that wrote the Braves off about two weeks ago. These sports “Journalist” moved on to UGA and Falcon football.
ynot
September 29th, 2009
1:02 pm
Atlanta’s not a bad sports town. It’s a good sports town. You can go to games any time you want. Tickets are available for all teams.
T-Mama
September 29th, 2009
1:03 pm
I’ve been a Braves fan my whole life, so HELL YES, Mark Bradley, I care! I love following my Braves’ bid for the wild card spot, regardless of its outcome. But I also have to be realistic about my finances. We save for and buy all our tickets in March before spring training has barely gotten underway – when it’s too soon for anybody rooting for any team to be thinking about October – because I know I won’t (and I don’t) have the money later. Who’s got spare cash to merely be a seatfiller? I’m sorry that my Bravos can’t actually hear me rooting them on from my living room (like I have my entire life), but that’s all I can do right now – and the beer is a sh8tload cheaper, lemme tell ya.
AlternateReality
September 29th, 2009
1:06 pm
It seems that several times during their long run of success, the Braves coasted to a division title and then were beaten in the playoffs by an inferior team that got hot at the right time (Marlins, Padres, Astros in their last trip). In fact, the Marlins were never the best team in baseball, but they won 2 WS championships.
Maybe this year we’re that team.
DirtyDawg
September 29th, 2009
1:07 pm
brent a had a great idea…give the tickets away and make it up with $7 beers, $12 Chik-filet strips/fries/cokes and $4 peanuts…by the way, that family of four for $30 bucks is BS. First of all the weekend crowds haven’t been bad…Atlanta’s singles are finding out that it’s fun again at the old ball-park, so they come out and drink and holler…but ‘families’ have school during the week and the out-of-towners aren’t coming during the week either.
Face it, they only started making a race of it a week or two ago, give us a chance to get used to the idea…and again, I’ll buy a ticket for every one you buy, Mark.
Too expensive
September 29th, 2009
1:07 pm
If they want people at their games, they should cut the price of beers in half, hire some people that aren’t AWFUL at customer service and did I say cut the price of beers in half? I’m not paying $7.50 for a 16 ounce beer anywhere and i’m not going to a game without drinking beer. DO YOU SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS?
Tron5000
September 29th, 2009
1:07 pm
So many “holier-than-thou” comments on here. I’ll try to make a couple games this week (definitely Sunday), but it’s not that easy for folks, especially those with kids, to get out to the park on a week night. The game lasts until 9:30 or 10:00, then you have to walk to your car, which is probably a mile away, because MARTA access sucks. There should be a train station right next to the freaking stadium. Next, you wait it the parking lot for 30 minutes trying to get out, which sucks. By the time you hit the highway, it’s 10:30 or 11:00, then you hit traffic on 85 and 75. By the time you get home, it’s darn near midnight and then you have to put the kids to bed (if you have kids) and go to sleep yourself to wake up in a few hours. Come on, folks. Be reasonable.
Fed Up Fan
September 29th, 2009
1:09 pm
I’ve been a fan since they came to Atlanta, but I don’t want to see this team in the playoffs. Bobby Cox has so mismanaged the club this year, that if they had had any other manager, they’d probably be leading the division right now. I’m sick and tired of Bobby’s boys getting bounced out of October ball. Better that they just don’t make it to the playoffs at all. Maybe after Cox is gone, I’ll be able to find interest in the team again.
Reid in EAV
September 29th, 2009
1:09 pm
@Claudel [sic] Washington — Wow, people like ME are the reason clueless knuckleheads like you don’t live in the city? I’m honored! (And never knew I had that much power. Also, didn’t realize you’d read about me driving to a free parking place and conclude I had no car. Hmm.)
But yes, it’s absolutely awful here. All my cars have been stolen, my house has been repeatedly robbed and vandalized and I’m forced to crawl to Braves games to beg tickets since all my cash has been stolen as well. I’m so sad — I think I’ll get a few more tattoos and another piercing or three and hang out in C’town all weekend. You all should just stay in your cul-de-sacs and Pottery Barns.
Joshua
September 29th, 2009
1:09 pm
For of all you “football is king is the south” and “baseball is too boring” blowhards, just shut up already. Back in the 90s the Braves sold out all of their games. The apathy is from expecting the franchise to win year after year and then being brought back to reality in the past couple of seasons. We were spoiled by success and the Braves suffer for it now. Had they won another series or two I believe everything would be different. But believe me as it gets more and more likely the Braves will overcome the Rockies, the stadium will sell out. The Braves needed a dramatic finish to a season like this to revitalize fan interest.
bigstack19
September 29th, 2009
1:10 pm
I quit watching after the Reds swept them. Since then they went on a tear so I figure if I start watching they will lose again.
Icky Thump
September 29th, 2009
1:12 pm
Mark,
Thanx again for another insightful column. I am one of those bailing water and rebuilding a wall. I’m a huge fan of the Braves, but the economy, rain and attendant cost have left me a little light. I’ve been reading your column for as long as I can remember and it’s always been entertaining. Thank You
mr me
September 29th, 2009
1:13 pm
Actually Atlanta is not the worst sports town idiots. Look at miami they’ve been in the race too and can’t even get half the amount of fans same for washington. Atlanta is by no means a baseball town but you cannot say they are a bad sports town plenty of sellouts for the other sports and very good crowds on the weekends for the braves. So please stop with the ignorant comments about atlanta you’re starting to sound like yankees that know nothing about the south. Go Braves hope the brew crew can pull it out
dan c
September 29th, 2009
1:13 pm
Enter your comments hereI’ve been a Braves’s since birth. While I live in Wisconsin i still catch a few games on the road. i get the baseball package on my TV. Atlanta always complains the brave’s aren’t worth watching. Now that they are they still don’t show up. Hard to figure. I know that that there are some die hard fans down there. Hope they show.
Scoots
September 29th, 2009
1:14 pm
I walked to the Ted last night for the first time, as a new resident of North Grant Park. Really not bad at all, walking down Georgia Avenue which basically takes you right to the front gate. I walked with my girlfriend and neither of us felt in danger at all on the way there or the way back. It looked to me like there were plenty of places that you could park without charge and have less than a mile to walk.
And guess what, if more people walked to the park it would feel even more safe . . you know, safety in numbers type thing.
Another thing for those stretched on the budget. Right now you can buy dirt cheap seats and pretty much sit anywhere. Last night there was a $1 ticket special for the upper deck, but the ushers were mostly absent so we sat about 15 rows behind the dugout on field level.
Eat before the game or pack a dinner and eat it on the way down, park in Grant Park, get a little exercise, enjoy the fall weather, spend a minimal amount of $$ and support your team.
Pete
September 29th, 2009
1:14 pm
Brent, I agree there are some good places to live in Atlanta (Va Highlands + the 2 you mention etc.). I live very near Brookhaven MARTA, and no way will I take the train to a Braves game (Falcons yes); not gonna have the hassle of the transfer to a bus. Also, many of us dont want to live in Atlanta city limits due to the corrupt and incompetent city government, as I assume youre well aware of (just yesterday came the news of another $1Mil+ fine for late pension payments; the list goes on and on).
Say HI! to Bill Campbell for me if you ever see him again lol
Rex
September 29th, 2009
1:14 pm
I hope the umps make a couple of make up calls when the rockies play the brewers or dodgers to make up for that bs ending sunday vs the cardinals. if a fans camera can get that shot, then the umps should be able to.
Dont Step on the Baseline
September 29th, 2009
1:15 pm
As baseball is a game of superstition, all of you posters that are afraid that the Braves will stop winning if you start watching again are excused. Keep up the good work.
fes
September 29th, 2009
1:16 pm
I’ll be at the Ted Friday, anxiously awaiting the puck drop at Philips on Saturday. I find it easier, cheaper, and more entertaining to go to the Thrasher games than to see the Bravos. I do watch almost every game, home or away, east coast or left though. Here’s to hoping that we pass the Rockies and make the postseason. That’s when we’ll really need to plea for butts in the seats.
Larry Sellars
September 29th, 2009
1:16 pm
There was a certain electricity at the stadium last night. Crowd was into it the entire time. I woke up with a sore throat. Not the type of crowd that only cheers when “make some noise” appears on scoreboard either. I live in town, but the guy next to me drove in from Greenville with his family. Granted, he had to dip out of work early but said, “These games mean too much”. He’s right too.
Those of you who say, “I’m too scared to watch or they are only going to let you down” are missing some amazing baseball right now. Isn’t that part of being a fan too? There is nothing more exciting in baseball than a race to the finish!! Losing in ‘93 to the Phils in NLCS was my hardest loss to swallow ever as a sports fan only because we fought so very hard to win our divison over the Giants. The second half of that season was magic, luck, guts, drive, determination… Every day down the stretch we had to make up ground and we got them on the last day of the season thanks to help from LA and our win over expansion Rockies. Tommy LaSorda said after the game, “Now you know how it feels Giants fans”.
I am proud of our team win or lose. We are fighting to the end. TV, even glorious HD TV, doesn’t not do it justice when it comes to being there when every pitch is huge. Even knowing it is difficult to run the table, I am taking it night by night (as far as buying tickets) and dragging different friends along the way. Tonight will be a great match-up. Braves need your support! No one hears you cheering behind the keyboard. We know you’re watching, come on out and do it in person if you can make it out to the park. Crowds will improve each night, don’t worry about that….who cares how we compare to other cities?? It is a dumb argument. Is it even relevant? Do we need to make excuses…..just keep winning. Real fans are there, they were there last night and screming their heads off and Cox was right- it was a different feel. Keep up it Braves!!!!
BL
September 29th, 2009
1:16 pm
ECONOMY
Allan
September 29th, 2009
1:16 pm
Ross gets my vote for the best blog.
the real Old Gold
September 29th, 2009
1:17 pm
These Braves play best when I’ve lost interest, or have become too angry with them to continue to watch in the interest of my own health. So if they keep this up, I may never watch again. Go Braves.. but it’s football season.
Lee
September 29th, 2009
1:17 pm
my theory is that the atlanta braves are actually the georgia braves. the fans who really care are located outside of the perimeter but when summer is over and school starts back up it is more difficult for these fans to attend games. in years past when the braves have made the playoffs (other than ‘91 because of the novelty of it) the stands have not been full. if they were truly the “atlanta” braves then the atlanta fans would care enough to show up. if i lived closer i would be there as much as i could.
Skip
September 29th, 2009
1:17 pm
Question, what happens if we tie Colorado? Is it the winner of the head to head or a 1 game playoff?
trey
September 29th, 2009
1:17 pm
I am going and I live in Savannah… bunch of pansies on here with made up excuses……
bill
September 29th, 2009
1:18 pm
Mark — Attending games is no the only way to measure fan support. I consider myself a big Braves fan. I watch or listen to nearly every game, read every article in the AJC, follow the blogs that covers the Braves (your’s included), but have only made it to a handful of games this year. Does that mean I have no team spirit? Does that mean I’m not a fan? I think not.
DMac
September 29th, 2009
1:19 pm
Short answer to your question Bradley- “No. No one cares.” And why such apathy among Atlanta Braves fans? I’ll tell you why. It’s because we the fans are tired of being disappointed. We are tired of October underachieving and we know that the pattern will continue to be repeated, ad infinitum, ad nauseum, as long as Bobby Cox is the manager. If someone else were at the helm, we would go and pay money to see what happens. But as long as he is the manager, we know what’s going to happen; just more of the same losing that has soured our taste for October baseball in Atlanta.
Rollo Tomasi
September 29th, 2009
1:19 pm
Cannot afford to go to the games but I am at home watching with my neighbor. GO BRAVES!!
FalconsFan
September 29th, 2009
1:19 pm
I really don’t understand why some of you can’t go to a game without drinking a beer. If you can’t enjoy something without being intoxicated you have an issue on some level.
JW
September 29th, 2009
1:20 pm
We’ve settled for just making the playoffs for the past 14 seasons with the exception for 2005 when we won the World Series. In all honesty, we should have won more of them. I do admit that many cities wish they had half the success of the Braves. However, what the Braves need is some personality. They act too much like suits in the corporate world. I’d like to see them go outside the box with marketing and engagement with fans.
otisnixonsmokescrack
September 29th, 2009
1:22 pm
Phils fans aren’t nervous baby! A littled annoyed maybe, but ceraintly not nervous. The Rockies should be. Inexcuseable Card’s baserunning was the only reason they won on Sunday. 3 with the Brew-Crew and 3 with a Dodgers team that has owned them this year. Yeah, their definitely bleeping in their pants right now. Solids and liquids… Nice thought for the lunch you’re eating right now! Right? I’m actually kind of proud of your team. I still hate your guts, don’t get wrong, but the Braves deserve to get in. Here’s to some future Champagne spraying for both the Braves and the Phillies. They’re both getting in. Book it folks! And go show some more support for your team…
sal governale
September 29th, 2009
1:22 pm
If a majority of local Braves fans are the same ones pulling for UGA, I can confirm — they’re douche bags. Just like Bradley said.
Sanford Drive
September 29th, 2009
1:23 pm
Braves on Friday. Dawgs on Saturday. Falcons on Sunday. That, my friends, is a perfect sports weekend.
Inspector G
September 29th, 2009
1:24 pm
Inspector G wonders if Mark Bradley has become so distracted with wanting to fire Willie Martinez that he has overlooked that the Braves are in a playoff hunt?
Facts Please
September 29th, 2009
1:25 pm
Distracted no, I know whats going on. I also know that they will find a way to blow it right at then end. Cox will put in the pen and they will load the bases up while he sits and scratches his head. Then they will all go home.
If by chance they make it, I will be at every home game they play. But not until they make it. Im sick of watching them blow a good thing.
Pete
September 29th, 2009
1:27 pm
Mr Me the Marlins arent even in Miami is one reason they dont draw much; about 20-30 miles north in Hollywood. Thats why theyre called the Florida (not Miami) Marlins.
Villa Rica DAWG
September 29th, 2009
1:28 pm
I would love to see the Braves playing in a sold out stadium. HOWEVER, I’m just too worn out between Saturday’s in Athens to go during the week, with work and all.
Sorry guys. I do love the Braves, and will be VERY EXCITED to watch almost every game of the post season on TV if they make it. But my trips to Turner Field occur in the Spring/Summer. Short of somehow ending up with NLCS/WS tickets, the DAWGS get me during the fall…
Win consistantly and THROUGHOUT the season and you won’t be begging fans to drop everything and come see you – let’s be honest – probably let them down when the season is almost over. Not only do you guys gotta win, but Colorado has to lose at the same time. While I really want to see it happen, I know it probably will not – even if you win out…
Nolerick
September 29th, 2009
1:29 pm
I share the same sentiments as others that I am afraid to start watching. Everytime I started to pay attention and really get my hopes up, they get swept by the likes of San Diego(totally unacceptable), and for God sakes please stop pitching to Ryan Howard.
I will pay attention to the score, but after having your heart broken (at least 5 times I can recall), its like doing the same action and expecting a different result. I wont watch and they will win, If I watch, they will get blown out, and then wonder “why did I even get my hopes up?”
Claudel Washington
September 29th, 2009
1:30 pm
Reid…, please. Let’s not generalize. I do not live on a cul de sac nor do I drive a SUV, nor do I go to Pottery Barn. But I do think your comment is funny. It is obvious that living in the city has its pros and cons. I, however, am not a city guy and choose to live in the burbs. You obviously feel different whch is fine. I find it strange however that you, like most of the folks in east Atlanta HATE everyone who does not live in the city. I would rather dodge SUV’s and soccer moms than dodge criminals, traffic and freaks. I like going to bed every night not having to worry about my truck or my personal belongings.
Pete
September 29th, 2009
1:31 pm
SANFORD, only 1 problem with your perfect weekend……Falcons dont play Sunday lol
Willy
September 29th, 2009
1:32 pm
Get the stadium out of one of the worst ghettos in the nation and you’ll see more people at the games. Some punk threw a hunk of concrete through my passenger-side window as I traveled home from a night game in April. I was two blocks from Turner Field. You take your life in your hands down there. No amount of money or the lure of playoffs will get me back down there. Go Braves!
Ross
September 29th, 2009
1:32 pm
Honestly, I am just scared to say anything because I am afraid to jinx it.
otisnixonsmokescrack
September 29th, 2009
1:34 pm
Let’s see 2 games left to play against a depressed Fish Club… 1-11 w/risp last nite…. And then 4 at home with the Nats? Are u kidding me? That was a major reason the Phillies squeaked pass the Mets in 07/08. We played the Nats at home to close it out. You not only get the Nats, but you get them for 4 games? Come on…. The Rockies will loose 2….At min the Braves get a 1 game play-off for the WC.
Villa Rica DAWG
September 29th, 2009
1:34 pm
Also, do something about the traffic… If you want games sold out during the week you’re gonna have to figure out a way for fans to get from the office to the house to the ball park with their families without it taking 4 hours.
Dave
September 29th, 2009
1:35 pm
C’mon guys…..it’s football season. Baseball season ended at the beginning of September. It’s like this every year. Doesn’t matter if the Braves are in the cellar or the penthouse, baseball season ends when football season begins. Think about it, baseball is the only game you can follow without paying attention. Football is the 800 lb gorilla that sets the tone. Now sit down, shut up and pass me a beer. The game is about to start.
edward
September 29th, 2009
1:36 pm
If I could I would be there. Unfortunately I live in PITTSburgh where they just set a record of another kind. As a native Georgian, I understand the fan base. I’ve been a fan since 1978…That’s a lot of losing years. The run was amazing and i went as much as possible when I lived back home. The best thing for me was to watch them on tv. Now even that is taken away from me. All ESPN shows are the stupid Yanks-Sox games like everyone in the world cares about them. TBS is a joke now and I obviously don’t get peachtv. When i can, I listen to the radio show from Macon on the computer.
Not everyone is ignoring the Braves on this improbable late run!! GO BRAVES!!
Joe Fan
September 29th, 2009
1:37 pm
The Braves are an entertainment product and as such compete for the time and disposable income of people. Really the outcome of the game is meaningless in the overall scheme of things. Plus, television has made it so much easier to watch a game without paying for tickets, parking and food. Plus on a work day a “fan” can get in bed well before midnight. Also, don’t forget when comparing the attendance in Atlanta to NY, or Boston there is a bigger fan base from which to draw in those cities. Look at seasonal attendance and I bet you find that Braves total attendace represnts a larger percenatge of the surrounding population than does NY or Boston. Further, columnists and others don’t need to judge how teams in Atlanta are supported. Quit telling people they are our teams when they really aren’t “our” teams until we have a financial interest in how they perform.
Northern Songs, Ltd.
September 29th, 2009
1:38 pm
Worst. Baseball. Fans. In. America.
submariner
September 29th, 2009
1:38 pm
Braves fans are spoiled from the hay day in the 90’s and are tired of being let down over and over and over………..14 division titles doesn’t mean squat. 1 WS title in that run is awful…Bottom Line: Fans aren’t going to come out because they know, in their heart of hearts, that what ever Braves team is on the field, they will always let them down. No fire! No killer instinct! No flash! Just the same ole thing “Business like”. This is a sport! A battle of the will! Fans want a team to show some emotion! Some get in your team mate’s face when he makes a mistake! Not “He had a bad day today, we’ll get ‘em next time.” Where were they when the division was wide open for the taking. Complete domination from start to finish is what ATL fans want from their team.
Chris
September 29th, 2009
1:40 pm
We just wanted the Marlin to fell right at home…you know playing with no one watching.
submariner
September 29th, 2009
1:43 pm
……….and ther’s no excuse for not dominating from start to finish with a pitching staff that most teams would sell their first born to have!
Bob
September 29th, 2009
1:43 pm
Enter your comments here
Go Braves… You CAN do it! Right now… the best team in baseball
Randy J.
September 29th, 2009
1:43 pm
I live in the Dominican Republic, I wish i live in Atlanta, Im still supporting the team From here, Go Bravess
Raulito
September 29th, 2009
1:44 pm
C’mon Braves fans go to the game . the team needs support.I miss the 91′ atlanta crowd. I read some posts about being too afraid to watch or they’ll fail as they always do…who cares…this is classic baseball history we are watching night in and night out by the bravos. Go to the game and enjoy the game…win or lose…enjoy the moment we know nothing about the future.. . If they’ll make it to the playoffs I’ll travel to watch a couple of games. Go braves, Raul from Isla Verde, Puerto Rico…I believe
southern hope
September 29th, 2009
1:47 pm
This is just me but I don’t go to more than 2 or 3 games a year because I literally can’t handle the stress. When I went to the Marlins series here last month, I had to keep leaving my seat & going to the restroom. And not because I needed the facilities but because I was too nervous to keep watching & I wanted to listen to Don Sutton instead (he’s broadcast over the speakers in the women’s restroom. LOL. )
But the Braves have a huge fan in me….my friends think I am a Braves nut. I just don’t go to the game.
otisnixonsmokescrack
September 29th, 2009
1:49 pm
So…15/17, which is 2007 Rockies-like(made the WS) is not showing any fire? Really???? The Marlins should change their stadium name to “Life after People.”
Joe Fan
September 29th, 2009
1:49 pm
The Braves are an entertainment product and as such compete with other entities for a fan’s disposable income. Plus, television has made it so much easier to view a game than fighting traffic, paying for tickets, gas, parking and food. Sporting events are being produced to fill television time / sell advertising. No where are fans really the top consideration.
Born2Buzz
September 29th, 2009
1:49 pm
I will agree with all the folks who say it is really difficult to get to the stadium. Atlanta is the worst city for traffic management I have ever experienced. If the Braves want to increase attendance maybe they could work with the State DOT to build a light rail spur that connects to a few Marta rail stations. As noted above, taking Marta to the stadium is a joke. And driving and getting home to the Northside is troublesome as well.
Fortunately I live on the soutside and getting into and out of the stadium is much easier going that way.
I hope there are more people showing up for the last 5 games. This has been a remarkable run that should have some folks fired up to see good baseball.
If I wasnt leaving town on Friday I’d be there Sat and Sun.
Oh, and one more thing about the game day experience…the food is just awful and way overpriced.
MadFan
September 29th, 2009
1:50 pm
Why don’t I come to ball games??? I don’t come because I don’t want to see Bobby Cox take out a pitcher who’s thrown eight innings,of shutout ball, for a hack reliever who promptly gives the game away. I don’t come because I don’t want to see Ryan Howard continue to be pitched to, even though he smokes the ball over the wall and wins game after game. I don’t come because I know that these kinds of things are going to continue to happen as long as Bobby Cox is the manager.
Patricia Templeton
September 29th, 2009
1:50 pm
Enter your comments hereDon’t think that because we’re not at the park we don’t care. I’d love to be there, but just can’t this week. But I’m watching or listening to every play. And the rotation should be Vazquez, Jurrjens, Hanson. Lowe in the bullpen, and Hudson there, too, unless we need a fourth starter. Lowe and Hudson haven’t gotten us this far, the other three guys have.
smitty
September 29th, 2009
1:51 pm
All these guys spouting that it’s too expensive are full of shizz. The Braves offer the cheapest sports tickets in the city. If you don’t want to buy a $4 hotdog, bring your own from home, they’ll let you. I had season tickets before and would always buy a 20oz coke or a bag of peanuts on the outside before coming in. There are ALWAYS cheap tickets on stubhub for nearly every game. There’s somebody selling tickets for .70 a piece
Tomas
September 29th, 2009
1:54 pm
Go to the game, who cares about the NFL, the Falcons suck anyway. If I lived in Atlanta I’d be like the guy in Fever Pitch that doesn’t miss a game in Fenway.
MadFan
September 29th, 2009
1:56 pm
From what I’ve read in this blog, Braves if you want fans to come out to your games, it’s simple. Lower ticket, parking and food prices, train your ushers to be friendly, get a convenient MARTA connection to the Ted and dump Bobby Cox.
Richard Dawson
September 29th, 2009
1:57 pm
I don’t care. Baseball season should end in August when football begins. Wild-card teams don’t deserve to be in the playoffs. So who cares?
budke
September 29th, 2009
1:57 pm
Fair weathered fans, you can find them anywhere. I will be cheering and screaming until the last game has been played.
eric the elder
September 29th, 2009
2:00 pm
There are now about 220 posts on this blog. About half of them are critical of the Braves’ management, the team, the manager, the beer, the hassle of getting to the stadium, the cost, etc.
Yet a few of you chose to attack me personally for saying little more than many others have said. I am called an idiot and urged to commit suicide. Sheesh!
For the record, I’m not a religious elder – - I’m just old. Age 74 on a fixed income. I am not anti-capitalist or anti-business – - typical distortions. I spent 20 years in the Navy, and my pension barely covers my health insurance, which partly explains my comment.
I watch nearly every game, and I’m at the Ted in spirit. Take a breath, guys.
kevin johnson
September 29th, 2009
2:00 pm
I AM 110% excited about the run. I live in El Paso now, Army moved me here but I lived in Atlanta for over 28 years of my life. I watch the Braves the few times they are on TV, if Im in my car I log onto mlb.com on my phone daily and just keep hitting refresh button. If I am at home Im on yahoo watching the game live. I watched the Braves lose a 100 games a year. I watched them win all division championships. I am watching them now. I am even more excited about this team, they don’t quit. They are awesome. Great pitching staff, and consistent hitters. Prado coming up big , McCann on hot streak, Laroche is usual big 2nd half, Chipper gonna come up big now too!!! Go Braves!! I would do anything for a chance to still go to their games!!! Way to far West Texas, no games even close. GO BRAVES!!! Back them up ATL
We have a chance for all three major sports programs to make playoffs!!!
BravesFan1
September 29th, 2009
2:00 pm
Heck ya I care! I am going to the game tonight! Go Bravos!
Tami
September 29th, 2009
2:03 pm
@JEZ…not airing dirty laundry..LOL. I’m just irritated with people who think things are the same around here as it was 10/15 years ago. It’s not. If I had a choice, I’d be at every home game. But, unfortunately LIFE gets in the way.
KC 8
September 29th, 2009
2:05 pm
I have loved the Braves since I was 2 years old, I am 30 now…and I have lived and died with them through the playoff and World Series runs. There are so many factors that go into why the people of Atlanta don’t show up for the games, the two greatest being the location of the stadium- The majority of Braves fans live in the suburbs and have to fight traffic often enough, and the lack of public transportation right to the stadium- My wife has put up with me enough to go to games in Seattle, Boston, Chicago, San Francisco, and New York, and it was extremely easy to hop on a train and get off a block from the park.
All of you Cox haters that feel the need to post- seriously, I would love to see you jump in that dugout and make those decisions when there is something big on the line, after years of coaching experience, sometimes you make the right decision and sometimes you make the wrong one, you just have to be able to keep plugging things in until you come up with the right combination.
I am hoping to make it to the Ted this weekend, either Friday night or Sunday afternoon with the kids and the wife, and it would be great to have something to celebrate….I was there with my parents in ‘93 when we won and everyone watched the Giants lose on the big screen and that is one of my greatest baseball memories to this day….hopefully my kids will have their first great baseball memory this weekend.
Go Braves. I Believe.
DC Bravesfan
September 29th, 2009
2:06 pm
http://www.stubhub.com/atlanta-braves-tickets/braves-vs-marlins-9-29-2009-719699/
There are 53 tickets on stubhub for less than $11; THERE ARE FOUR FOR LESS THAN A DOLLAR!!! If you don’t get the stubhub tickets, you can get there after the game started and get tickets for a severly reduced rate, $3-5 or so. Most ballparks allow you to pack a picnic and bring it in. Bring a flask in and you’re good to go!
Rob
September 29th, 2009
2:07 pm
Im a METS fan and I hope do you not only catch the rockies, but over take the PHILLIES on the last day of the season and win the division!!!
this team is exciting and fun to watch, i said it during spring training, if the Mets have 2 injuries they are done, they have had 20 and are done, so, lets go Braves…whoop on the phillies for us!!!
Ishmael
September 29th, 2009
2:08 pm
That’s okay, Braves. Everything’s gonna be Pickrick!
Braves4life
September 29th, 2009
2:08 pm
I feel confident that if we could somehow pick up Turner Field and simply move it to the Northside of town that the attendance would increase drastically not only for the rest of this play off push, but for many games to come! I would be at the game every night if it was just a 10-20 minute drive but to come from Lawrenceville is not the cheapest drive plus I don’t have a steady job so if anyone is hiring I would gladly use my hard earned wages to make it to the game tonight!
Proud Braves Fan since ‘82
Pete
September 29th, 2009
2:08 pm
Amen, Eric….and thank you for your service to our country.
DOA Wallet
September 29th, 2009
2:10 pm
I live 180 miles away and still have seen 8-10 games a year in recent years. This year I have seen NONE- I AM BROKE. Despite the ridiculous money that the players make, I still watch 90% of the games.
It’s just that this year I am struggling to pay the CABLE bill rather than pay for TICKETS. I don’t think I’m alone out here.
Joe
September 29th, 2009
2:10 pm
Todd said it the best. I have no idea, but every time I watch a game they seem to lose in heartbreaking fashion. When I tune them out for a week, they win six straight, including one or two in extra innings. Go figure.
Man I can’t believe the Cards lost that last one to the Rockies. They had it in the bag… I’ve been dreaming of only being down 1 game with six to go. But we are officially in the hunt.
kevin aka ugakev
September 29th, 2009
2:14 pm
If we sweep the Marlins i will be there this weekend. But i dont see that happening. Braves are the third most popular team in major league baseball and thats a fact because espn came out with that this year. The fan base is there its just across the united states. Its diff then most fan bases. Look at how well the braves travel on the road. Braves fans are good fans they just cant travel 500-1000 miles to the games. I would like to see a nicer smaller stadium built for the braves one day hold around 40K. It would make it look more full alot of games.
HTOWNBRAVESFAN
September 29th, 2009
2:17 pm
Regardless of how this turns out, it has been a great run and has given all Braves fans a reason to be optimstic next year. Also, to those out there who don’t think the Braves can be competitive if we sneak in, we were 4-3 against the Dodgers, 4-2 against the Cardinals, and 10-8 against the Phillies. Case closed there. Furthermore, a couple of idiots stated this team will tease you and then choke. That’s happened in the past, but would you rather be in last place? Grow up. Enough with the superstitions and just believe the best team will be left standing.
Nic
September 29th, 2009
2:18 pm
Remember a few weeks ago the article you wrote on how Atlanta was a great sports time. I am just now wondering how crow tastes? Atlanta by far the worstest sports city in America.
brian
September 29th, 2009
2:19 pm
all of you are idiots – quit bitching
MK
September 29th, 2009
2:19 pm
Here we go again fan bashing! Let’s not hold Cox’s poor coaching decisions (JS, KJ and JF). No, let’s get on that tired topic of how bad we the Atlanta fans are! How predictable!
Louis
September 29th, 2009
2:19 pm
I am still having trouble getting over the Barmes play against the Cardinals…that really pisses me off.
Rex
September 29th, 2009
2:20 pm
Pete why weren’t the devil rays called the st pete rays then?
brian
September 29th, 2009
2:21 pm
Enter your comments hereMark Bradley The Braves are in a playoff race, but does anybody care?
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..241 comments Add your commentSanford Drive
September 29th, 2009
1:23 pm
Braves on Friday. Dawgs on Saturday. Falcons on Sunday. That, my friends, is a perfect sports weekend.
LinkReport this comment.Inspector G
September 29th, 2009
1:24 pm
Inspector G wonders if Mark Bradley has become so distracted with wanting to fire Willie Martinez that he has overlooked that the Braves are in a playoff hunt?
LinkReport this comment.Facts Please
September 29th, 2009
1:25 pm
Distracted no, I know whats going on. I also know that they will find a way to blow it right at then end. Cox will put in the pen and they will load the bases up while he sits and scratches his head. Then they will all go home.
If by chance they make it, I will be at every home game they play. But not until they make it. Im sick of watching them blow a good thing.
LinkReport this comment.Pete
September 29th, 2009
1:27 pm
Mr Me the Marlins arent even in Miami is one reason they dont draw much; about 20-30 miles north in Hollywood. Thats why theyre called the Florida (not Miami) Marlins.
LinkReport this comment.Villa Rica DAWG
September 29th, 2009
1:28 pm
I would love to see the Braves playing in a sold out stadium. HOWEVER, I’m just too worn out between Saturday’s in Athens to go during the week, with work and all.
Sorry guys. I do love the Braves, and will be VERY EXCITED to watch almost every game of the post season on TV if they make it. But my trips to Turner Field occur in the Spring/Summer. Short of somehow ending up with NLCS/WS tickets, the DAWGS get me during the fall…
Win consistantly and THROUGHOUT the season and you won’t be begging fans to drop everything and come see you – let’s be honest – probably let them down when the season is almost over. Not only do you guys gotta win, but Colorado has to lose at the same time. While I really want to see it happen, I know it probably will not – even if you win out…
LinkReport this comment.Nolerick
September 29th, 2009
1:29 pm
I share the same sentiments as others that I am afraid to start watching. Everytime I started to pay attention and really get my hopes up, they get swept by the likes of San Diego(totally unacceptable), and for God sakes please stop pitching to Ryan Howard.
I will pay attention to the score, but after having your heart broken (at least 5 times I can recall), its like doing the same action and expecting a different result. I wont watch and they will win, If I watch, they will get blown out, and then wonder “why did I even get my hopes up?”
LinkReport this comment.Pete
September 29th, 2009
1:31 pm
SANFORD, only 1 problem with your perfect weekend……Falcons dont play Sunday lol
LinkReport this comment.Ross
September 29th, 2009
1:32 pm
Honestly, I am just scared to say anything because I am afraid to jinx it.
LinkReport this comment.otisnixonsmokescrack
September 29th, 2009
1:34 pm
Let’s see 2 games left to play against a depressed Fish Club… 1-11 w/risp last nite…. And then 4 at home with the Nats? Are u kidding me? That was a major reason the Phillies squeaked pass the Mets in 07/08. We played the Nats at home to close it out. You not only get the Nats, but you get them for 4 games? Come on…. The Rockies will loose 2….At min the Braves get a 1 game play-off for the WC.
LinkReport this comment.Villa Rica DAWG
September 29th, 2009
1:34 pm
Also, do something about the traffic… If you want games sold out during the week you’re gonna have to figure out a way for fans to get from the office to the house to the ball park with their families without it taking 4 hours.
LinkReport this comment.Dave
September 29th, 2009
1:35 pm
C’mon guys…..it’s football season. Baseball season ended at the beginning of September. It’s like this every year. Doesn’t matter if the Braves are in the cellar or the penthouse, baseball season ends when football season begins. Think about it, baseball is the only game you can follow without paying attention. Football is the 800 lb gorilla that sets the tone. Now sit down, shut up and pass me a beer. The game is about to start.
LinkReport this comment.edward
September 29th, 2009
1:36 pm
If I could I would be there. Unfortunately I live in PITTSburgh where they just set a record of another kind. As a native Georgian, I understand the fan base. I’ve been a fan since 1978…That’s a lot of losing years. The run was amazing and i went as much as possible when I lived back home. The best thing for me was to watch them on tv. Now even that is taken away from me. All ESPN shows are the stupid Yanks-Sox games like everyone in the world cares about them. TBS is a joke now and I obviously don’t get peachtv. When i can, I listen to the radio show from Macon on the computer.
Not everyone is ignoring the Braves on this improbable late run!! GO BRAVES!!
LinkReport this comment.Northern Songs, Ltd.
September 29th, 2009
1:38 pm
Worst. Baseball. Fans. In. America.
LinkReport this comment.submariner
September 29th, 2009
1:38 pm
Braves fans are spoiled from the hay day in the 90’s and are tired of being let down over and over and over………..14 division titles doesn’t mean squat. 1 WS title in that run is awful…Bottom Line: Fans aren’t going to come out because they know, in their heart of hearts, that what ever Braves team is on the field, they will always let them down. No fire! No killer instinct! No flash! Just the same ole thing “Business like”. This is a sport! A battle of the will! Fans want a team to show some emotion! Some get in your team mate’s face when he makes a mistake! Not “He had a bad day today, we’ll get ‘em next time.” Where were they when the division was wide open for the taking. Complete domination from start to finish is what ATL fans want from their team.
LinkReport this comment.Chris
September 29th, 2009
1:40 pm
We just wanted the Marlin to fell right at home…you know playing with no one watching.
LinkReport this comment.submariner
September 29th, 2009
1:43 pm
……….and ther’s no excuse for not dominating from start to finish with a pitching staff that most teams would sell their first born to have!
LinkReport this comment.Bob
September 29th, 2009
1:43 pm
Enter your comments here
Go Braves… You CAN do it! Right now… the best team in baseball
LinkReport this comment.Randy J.
September 29th, 2009
1:43 pm
I live in the Dominican Republic, I wish i live in Atlanta, Im still supporting the team From here, Go Bravess
LinkReport this comment.southern hope
September 29th, 2009
1:47 pm
This is just me but I don’t go to more than 2 or 3 games a year because I literally can’t handle the stress. When I went to the Marlins series here last month, I had to keep leaving my seat & going to the restroom. And not because I needed the facilities but because I was too nervous to keep watching & I wanted to listen to Don Sutton instead (he’s broadcast over the speakers in the women’s restroom. LOL. )
But the Braves have a huge fan in me….my friends think I am a Braves nut. I just don’t go to the game.
LinkReport this comment.otisnixonsmokescrack
September 29th, 2009
1:49 pm
So…15/17, which is 2007 Rockies-like(made the WS) is not showing any fire? Really???? The Marlins should change their stadium name to “Life after People.”
LinkReport this comment.Joe Fan
September 29th, 2009
1:49 pm
The Braves are an entertainment product and as such compete with other entities for a fan’s disposable income. Plus, television has made it so much easier to view a game than fighting traffic, paying for tickets, gas, parking and food. Sporting events are being produced to fill television time / sell advertising. No where are fans really the top consideration.
LinkReport this comment.Born2Buzz
September 29th, 2009
1:49 pm
I will agree with all the folks who say it is really difficult to get to the stadium. Atlanta is the worst city for traffic management I have ever experienced. If the Braves want to increase attendance maybe they could work with the State DOT to build a light rail spur that connects to a few Marta rail stations. As noted above, taking Marta to the stadium is a joke. And driving and getting home to the Northside is troublesome as well.
Fortunately I live on the soutside and getting into and out of the stadium is much easier going that way.
I hope there are more people showing up for the last 5 games. This has been a remarkable run that should have some folks fired up to see good baseball.
If I wasnt leaving town on Friday I’d be there Sat and Sun.
Oh, and one more thing about the game day experience…the food is just awful and way overpriced.
LinkReport this comment.MadFan
September 29th, 2009
1:50 pm
Why don’t I come to ball games??? I don’t come because I don’t want to see Bobby Cox take out a pitcher who’s thrown eight innings,of shutout ball, for a hack reliever who promptly gives the game away. I don’t come because I don’t want to see Ryan Howard continue to be pitched to, even though he smokes the ball over the wall and wins game after game. I don’t come because I know that these kinds of things are going to continue to happen as long as Bobby Cox is the manager.
LinkReport this comment.Patricia Templeton
September 29th, 2009
1:50 pm
Enter your comments hereDon’t think that because we’re not at the park we don’t care. I’d love to be there, but just can’t this week. But I’m watching or listening to every play. And the rotation should be Vazquez, Jurrjens, Hanson. Lowe in the bullpen, and Hudson there, too, unless we need a fourth starter. Lowe and Hudson haven’t gotten us this far, the other three guys have.
LinkReport this comment.smitty
September 29th, 2009
1:51 pm
All these guys spouting that it’s too expensive are full of shizz. The Braves offer the cheapest sports tickets in the city. If you don’t want to buy a $4 hotdog, bring your own from home, they’ll let you. I had season tickets before and would always buy a 20oz coke or a bag of peanuts on the outside before coming in. There are ALWAYS cheap tickets on stubhub for nearly every game. There’s somebody selling tickets for .70 a piece
LinkReport this comment.Tomas
September 29th, 2009
1:54 pm
Go to the game, who cares about the NFL, the Falcons suck anyway. If I lived in Atlanta I’d be like the guy in Fever Pitch that doesn’t miss a game in Fenway.
LinkReport this comment.MadFan
September 29th, 2009
1:56 pm
From what I’ve read in this blog, Braves if you want fans to come out to your games, it’s simple. Lower ticket, parking and food prices, train your ushers to be friendly, get a convenient MARTA connection to the Ted and dump Bobby Cox.
thats the worst comment i have ever heard….buy yourself a 3 dollar seat that nobody in the league offers…ushers? what kind of stupid comment is that…marta goes right there parking is 12 bucks most places its 15 plus guess what there are free places to park…food prices are the same everywhere eat before you go im sure u can last 2 hours without food…or can u?
brent a.
September 29th, 2009
2:24 pm
Some of these posts sound like John Rocker describing New York.
It’s funny really. I’ve been panhandled when heading to sporting events in New York, LA, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, St. Louis, Miami, Chicago, Denver, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, New Orleans (and yes, even in Athens, Tuscaloosa, Lexington, Columbia), you name it. If it’s in the US, I’ve probably been to a sporting event there, and yes, I’ve dealt with dirty public transportation, panhandlers, etc.
If that keeps you from wanting to go to a game, then so be it. Other people, in other cities, can make many of the exact same complaints. At the end of the day, it’s your choices. You have your priorities. However, most of us that attend regularly have come to discover that these things are mere nuisances, and are not really large enough detriments or deterrents from wanting to see our favorite team’s play.
Sure, they need to add a Marta spur to TF, that’s obvious. But it’s funny, you can still get within a mile on Marta, and then walk. It’s not bad, at all. In fact, most of the parking puts you about 1/2 mile from the stadium entrance anyway. That’s a simple extra 1/2 mile. But I realize, that’s too inconvenient for a lot of you. Again, it’s your choice.
Something tells me, though, that if UGA and Georgia Tech played a football game at Turner Field on a Thursday night, half of Gwinnett County would be fighting to get in. But to be fair, the football season is about 1/15th to 1/10th of the length of the baseball season. Mid-week is not a convenient time to attend a sporting event, I get that!
But also, if you don’t like coming to the city of Atlanta. That’s your choice. But, as a former resident, I can tell you that attending Braves games is not that big of a hassle, even using Marta. Of course, if you can’t walk very well, or don’t know your way around, sure, it’s gonna be hard. But, if you’re willing to figure out how to make it happen, then you’ll do just that and enjoy yourself in the process.
Something else I’ve noticed is that so many people are fascinated with beer. Maybe that’s one reason I find it so easy to enjoy the Braves, I don’t waste my money on the stuff. Perhaps some of you who complain about the huge expense of attending a Braves game, could try and enjoy an outing with your family that doesn’t involve beer. Who knows? You might actually enjoy the game, and be happy with the money you save.
My typical Braves game – $6-$8/per ticket, $2 for Marta (or $5 to $10 for parking), and that’s it.
Don’t let the negative hype keep you away from the stadium.
Steveo
September 29th, 2009
2:24 pm
I believe we can win 2 more games than the rockies right now. im going tonite
bduke
September 29th, 2009
2:29 pm
Stop whining, moaning and blaming our Braves. Simply put, for the die-hard fans out there (myself included), it comes down to an interesting end of a good season. I WILL be there tonight, screaming and cheering until the very end.
For others, please remember, if you can’t say anything nice …..
CHAD OWNBEY
September 29th, 2009
2:29 pm
Why does no one mention the poor location of the stadium? Or the absolute worse transportation system in the country as reasons people do not attend games. Chicago, for example, is great. I went last year with my Braves jersey and watched us play at Wrigley field. There are tons of fun bars, a safe atmosphere, and good food within walking distance of the stadium. Then you just hop right on the train and head home. If you go to the Ted, you have to park in the ghetto. There is NO fun bars walking distance for college and young professionals to hang out. Maybe you live near a Marta but what are the chances of that? Create some jobs Atlanta. Talk to your politicians, improve public transportation and clean up the slums around the stadium and contribute to restoring the economy in the state of Georgia!!!!!! I hate ATL. I left there for Charleston SC years ago and I will NEVER come back to the concrete city of ATL.
Jeff
September 29th, 2009
2:54 pm
As a lifelong Braves fan, I’ve been the victim of the futile, make it close and hook everybody in, tantalizingly close but not quite enough comeback many, many times. Yet, I always watch until the final out. Crazy, huh?
Why would I be such a glutton? Because, every once in a while, it actually happens. And, when it does, it’s sports fan magic. The trouble with this approach is that you have to be willing to take multiple stomach punch games to get the occasional magic. And, you can’t have it both ways. You have to believe EACH TIME. Fully invested and not bracing yourself for the seemingly inevitable negative outcome.
And, especially for fans at the games, when you’re fully invested and believe, it helps the team believe. Rather then the fans holding their collective breath and bracing for the worst. The players can feel that negative energy. It seeps in and infects the team.
I still believe in this team. Believe in a 1991, before multiple stomach punches, not jaded by 14 consecutive division titles kind of way.
Yes, I am insane. Who’s with me?
Cream Daddy Puff Muffin
September 29th, 2009
2:56 pm
2 little, 2 late. 2 bad Cox isn’t retiring b4 next year. Without a bullpen the starters should have been going 8 or 9 innings within the first 6-8 weeks of the season. Looking forward to next year, but even more so, the year after that.
GO BRAVES!
September 29th, 2009
3:00 pm
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS! BARMES DIDN’T MAKE THE CATCH…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/crwelling/3963132624/
John
September 29th, 2009
3:00 pm
Suburbanites bitching about being too far away from the stadium because they chose to live in the Federal Witness Protection program neighborhoods of Gwinett County have no gripe. You are subjecting your family to cultureless suburban hell and you need to get out more.
Sting 'em Buzz
September 29th, 2009
3:01 pm
I care, but the reality is I am going to be laid off in the next few months, so the expense of going to see them play is just not worth it.
Jay
September 29th, 2009
3:05 pm
Atlanta is a weak sports market, but thanks to years on TBS, the Braves have a large regional fan base in the southeast. I live in TN and have been following all season long, but making it down to ATL for a game is tough, although I just might make the drive this weekend if they are within a game.
Mark Bradley
September 29th, 2009
3:07 pm
That’s true about the regional aspect, Jay. Tough for out-of-towners to get to Atlanta and home on a weeknight in September.
WisePatH2Follow
September 29th, 2009
3:10 pm
If the Braves come up one game short, we can all look back to August 21, against the Marlins. I particularly made note of it for future reference. After that game is when I completely gave up on the Braves. I have not watched since then, and live out of state so cannot attend. After a long 2 1/2 hr. rain delay the Braves were losing 5-3 and it had been stopped in the middle of the ninth. When it was finally restarted and the Braves came up to bat it was very obvious what they were doing. It was in the 2AM area and they knew if they tied it up they could be there a long time. All they wanted to do was to go home. First batter up was CJ and he did not take any pitches even after a long delay to see if their pitcher had his control. He swung at a pitch way outside and softly lined it to third. Next Brian McCann who normally takes pitches and fouls a lot off, took none, and stuck out on a pitch way outside. Next LaRoche did take a pitch but then lined a hit to right and for some unknown reason tried to stretch it into a 2B, even though his run did not matter being 2 behind at that juncture. He would have been just as well off at first. He was thrown out by a mile. It was very obvious they only wanted to go home. Two comments by Joe Simpson verified my opinion. I have direct feed with no commercials and after the cut away he said, “well how do you like that”. I knew exactly what he was thinking. He even commented after CJ’s tap out, “I don’t know what his hurry is”. After staying up that late and seeing them give up like that turned me off, and I have not watched since. I predict they will come up one game short, and I hope they will all think back to that game. If they do get lucky and make the playoffs, being an avid Braves fan, I will watch but only because of my sincere allegiance. They really broke my heart that night.
Ponceinletbon
September 29th, 2009
3:14 pm
A true fan is a true fan. I just returned from SE Asia where the time is exactly 12 hours ahead of Atlanta. I got up each morning and listened to the game over WGST over the internet. Did I come to the park–no, but I have been a fan of Atlanta baseball since the Crackers days in Ponce DeLeon Park across from Sears. If Marta actually went to the ballpark I bet many, many more people would attend. The traffic and parking make it prohibitive. You want people at the park–lobby to have Marta reroute to The Ted.
Parker
September 29th, 2009
3:21 pm
I think this is awesome. I just moved to Virginia or you better believe I would be at every single one of these last games. I am so happy the Braves decided they were a good team and at least trying to make this interesting. I will also admit that 3 weeks ago I was so mad a disappointed in the team that I had completely given up. I hope people come out for these next couple of games. With the way our staff is pitching this late in the season I think anything is possible if you hit the playoffs as hot as the Braves are. Go Braves!!!!
Mechanicsville
September 29th, 2009
3:23 pm
It’s up to the communities surrounding Turner Field to make a difference.
As a baseball fan and resident of Mechanicsville I live 2 blocks away and wonder why there are no bars or restaurants to liven up the baseball experience.
Do you know that one guy named John Elder owns all those great store fronts on Georgia Avenue in Summerhill. Just think about the gold mine he’s sitting on… and yet it’s been vacant for 20 years.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Taste-of-Atlanta/74992360448?ref=ts#/group.php?gid=123753825241&ref=ts
Parker
September 29th, 2009
3:26 pm
I also agree with people above, complaining about traffic and location. I believe that their are plenty of Braves fans in Atlanta but who wants to drive and pay $12 to park… They should be paying me to drive to the game! And Marta is a joke even after you get off at Underground you still have to walk way out of the way to get on a bus. Poor planning by the city council years ago. The fans are here there is just no way to get to Turner Field.
stupidest comment in ajc history
September 29th, 2009
3:34 pm
“there is just no way to get to Turner Field.”
lame
Go Braves!
September 29th, 2009
3:43 pm
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=123753825241&ref=ts
Mike
September 29th, 2009
4:04 pm
I know a bunch of people talking aboug going this week. Everyone just kept saying if we are close to the Rockies, let’s go. Looks like tomorrow we will all be at the game.
Wes Barker
September 29th, 2009
4:09 pm
Enter your comments here Dearest Mark, I retired back in 92 from the Air Force and moved here to Atlanta because I am a die hard Braves fan. I wasn’t there last night because we have nine homes in our neighbor who were 8 feet under water. So I love my braves and I watch them every night around 8 or 9 because I’m helping my neighbors. Why should we care what you guys think, a month ago all you could do is call for Bobby Cox’s head. That why I don’t listen to you media types. My Braves don’t quit they play it out to the last game. Go Braves win it ALL. Wes
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4:48 pm
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Chris
September 29th, 2009
5:09 pm
The Braves have a ton of fans outside Atlanta. We can’t make the games, obviously, but we’re no less excited about the current playoff chase. Go Braves!
Extremus
September 29th, 2009
5:11 pm
I live in northeast Tenessee, so obviously I can’t just drop everything and come to the ballpark. I’ll be honest; I love the Braves and would be delighted (like everyone else here, even the doubters) if they somehow manage to surprise everyone and win it all. But I’m afraid to even begin watching the games again on TV; not yet, anyway. Historically the Braves have never been in a playoff race this far into a season and NOT gotten in, so one could argue that much is on their side.
I think what seemingly killed the electric atmosphere and the fan enthusiasm actually happened long ago, right about the time that baseball dropped into the Metrodome outfield in the tenth inning, or we watched the Blue Jays celebrate on our own field and mock the Chop chant after winning the Series in ‘92 (the year Sid Bream slid home and we thought for sure this was destiny dialing our number), or maybe being quickly polished off by the Phillies after that grueling divisional run in ‘93. By the seventh game of the ‘95 World Series, David Justice came under fire because he spoke out about what he considered to be an apathetic fan base and challenged everyone to come out and support the team. They did, and he rewarded them with the games lone run and the lone world championship for Atlanta in any pro team sport.
All seemed right with the world, and the Braves were busy sweeping aside the outmatched Yankees in ‘96, when Mark Wohlers just happened to throw an eighth straight slider to Jim Leyritz, and from that moment, I (and I believe many others) knew we were destined to lose that Series. More postseasons came and went, and the best year in, year out regular season-record baseball team on the planet found some way to break our hearts or have everything turn against them seemingly on a single play, every single time, and often it was because they were just out-hustled and out-played by on-paper lesser teams who came in with more hunger and passion. Those fans not jaded by the amazing run of success began to wonder if this team was cursed, forever able to compete but never able to create a true dynasty. In short, we came to expect nothing less than winning it all from the teams we had; nothing else mattered when the dust settled, so several Hall-of-Fame careers came and went perhaps not as much appreciated as they should have been in retrospect.
Here we are a few years later, and as several folks here have already remarked, it’s not like we don’t care; it’s simply that unlike the years past where this Braves team stayed on a highly competitive level from start to finish, this time it just has a surreal feeling to it, because the 2009 Braves have been anything but consistent. They’ve somehow managed to put together a very impressive run, much as Colorado did two years ago, but as the Rockies learned in the World Series, at that level of competition even a hot average team will be exposed for what they are: average. It just doesn’t feel RIGHT. Even if the Braves make the playoffs this year, don’t expect the fan fever to return immediately, maybe not even if they make it to the World Series. Most memories of this team’s postseasons past aren’t those that center around Sid Bream’s slide or Marquis Grissom’s catch; they’re much more painful in nature, and that’s hard to get over.
Because anything less than a world championship is a failure in professional sports, and especially in a city that’s become accustomed to seeing legitimate chances to win it all come and go in heartbreaking fashion time and again. That said, let’s go Braves!!!!
Mark Fowler
September 29th, 2009
5:13 pm
I’m writing this a few hours before tonight’s game. In a few hours the Braves may be 3 games back, with 5 to play, or they may be 1 game back, or they could still be at 2.
The fans who say “don’t get your hopes up because the Braves will only disappoint you as they have in the past” don’t understand that “getting your hopes up” is PART of the JOY of baseball. Part of the collective consciousness of Red Sox and Cubs Nations is their shared suffering over decades of getting close… but not winning the big one.
Fans who became dulled by the 14 consecutive post-seasons for the Braves, and soured by only one World Series win, don’t remember the good old days when less than 1,000 people would “pack” old Atlanta-Fulton County, only to watch Darrel Chaney and company lose 100 games a year.
The Braves fans of that era are hyperventilating that the Braves are a mere 2 games out with 5 to go.
The chase is part of the fun. If we’re let down, eh, we’re let down. The Braves didn’t help or hurt my salary one dime (or one yen as I’m an American Serviceman on Okinawa right now). But if the Braves win – I will rejoice! And my joy will be all the sweeter because it joy was preceded by anticipation – which was preceded by hope.
I Believe.
Batcork
September 29th, 2009
5:41 pm
Personally the air went out of the balloon after that Reds series and it just started coming back in the first or second game of the Nats series last weekend. I can’t help but wonder if the same is true for lots of people.
Bitter memories of failed runs in 2000-05 are still on the taste buds. I believe the Rockies WILL lose 3 games this week, but that Reds series could recur any day now and I have to say I’m guarding my emotions a little.
Still, I’ll be there Thursday night for sure. Maybe Saturday too. It’s thrilling to be in the hunt in the last week – the last three years were despiriting.
HAL
September 29th, 2009
5:59 pm
Enter your comments here talk about compelling and then mention the nfl// i thought a sighn at the colts game summed up the nfl pretyy well national felons league maybe that what the braves need a roger clemons or an otis nixon so the people can relate lol
Tomahawkin
September 29th, 2009
9:38 pm
Mark Bradley
You know fans in the “A” Don’t care about the braves when Tony Homo and the Cowgirls game results on the radio preceed the braves highlights…
The first comment of your blog speaks volumes
Ross
September 29th, 2009
11:23 pm
Well there’s your answer – as if it weren’t already obvious. Jones and Huddy, failures of Braves past – and not Prado and Diaz, who look forward, not backward into failure.
One should limit the number of southerners in critical positions. They always lose the same war.
MadFan
September 30th, 2009
9:36 am
They sucked last night, just like we all knew they eventually would.
Chris
September 30th, 2009
12:10 pm
I prefer a decent school system over ‘culture,’ thanks.