5 reasons Georgia needs to demote Willie Martinez ASAP

1. Georgia is 97th among 120 Bowl Subdivision teams in total defense, 108th in scoring defense. The Bulldogs rank last among 12 SEC schools in both categories. Simple question: Do you believe Georgia — with Rennie Curran, Geno Atkins, Jeff Owens, Justin Houston, Kade Weston, Demarcus Dobbs, Darryl Gamble, Bryan Evans, Reshad Jones, Brandon Boykin and Branden Smith — has the worst defensive talent in the SEC?

2. Georgia has one interception, one fumble recovery and four sacks in three games. It ranks 76th (tied) in sacks, 116th in turnover margin. Simple question: Does anyone think the Bulldogs’ personnel ranks in the nation’s lower tier in terms of speed, strength and level of aggression?

3. Over the past nine games, Georgia opponents have averaged — averaged — 33 points. In 42 games under Brian VanGorder, whom Martinez succeeded as defensive coordinator, one opponent scored more than 30 points, and that was the 2003 BCS champion.

4. Georgia opponents have scored 102 points in three games this season. In 1980, the national championship team yielded 137 points in 12 games.

5. Georgia football is first-class in every way — the head coach, the personnel, the offense, the recruiting, the facilities, the fan interest — except one. Athletics director Damon Evans says he wants his coaches to win championships. Simple questions:  Do you believe Georgia can win another SEC title playing this sort of defense? Is there any reason a program of such pedigree should have the worst defensive coordinator in its division?

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The Lone Trumpeter

September 21st, 2009
8:10 pm

Great points Mark,
I used to believe that Willie was the victim of field position and turnovers like Richt. However, the Ark game opened my eyes. You can not give up that many points playing zone all night. Players REGULARLY out of position is coaching. Our offense is now a plug new starter here and go score 35 kind of team. Our defense though is way too conservative. They have all the players, all the heart, yet lack a truly talented DC to put us in the elite category. I know we are young in the secondary, but blitzing and creating more pressure is another way to guard that weakness. A win is a win, but Richt is facing a difficult decision. With our offense now we could regularly score 40, but keeping the other team under that has become impossible with a very bland defense. I used to be a Martinez “wait and see” guy, but the time has come. Martinez just doesn’t have the ability to get us to the next level. Let Janeck finish the season. Enough is enough

paul in J-ville

September 21st, 2009
8:12 pm

Totally accurate MB, everybody that doesn’t live under a rock realizes how pitiful Martinez is at DC, everybody except Coach Richt. He has the Bobby Cox syndrome…..too loyal. The problem is, CMR would never let go or demote anyone during the season, and I don’t particularly disagree with that, it shows he will ultimately take responsibility for his teams performance withou making anyone a scape-goat.
Look for a change AFTER this season. Martinez can only use the “injury” excuse for last year…. this year he will probably blame the swine flu.
No excuses can be had, UGA still has the talent. If anyone ever attends a game in person, just watch the defense in between plays. They are looking at the sideline in bewilderment while the ball is snapped. Players are out of position and havent a clue much of the time, especially the linebackers, safeties, and corners. D-line is strong and has the gearth, but wouldn’t know what a stunt is if it bit them in the a$$. Poor coaching

Ryno

September 22nd, 2009
12:54 am

Richt’s blind loyalty to Soft Willie is exactly the type of thing that got Fulmer canned at UT. When a coach isn’t cutting it, and Martinez isn’t, you gotta cut him loose.
As a UT fan, I hope they keep him forever.

Gary

September 22nd, 2009
12:56 am

You can type all the facts until your fingers are nubs, Mark Richt will not change the DC unless forced by the school powers. Alum’s get on the phone and computer and let UGA what you think of the situation. Go Dawgs.

Dawg Man

September 22nd, 2009
12:58 am

Richt will never fire martinez—the dawg D will suffer in mediocrity for years, not winning anything. I need a drink.

Pecan

September 22nd, 2009
1:00 am

One way to figure out whether or not your coaches are doing a good job is to see how much interest other teams have in hiring them away from you. I haven’t heard of much interest by other teams in Bobo, Martinez, or Fabris.

Pecan

September 22nd, 2009
1:03 am

P.S. It IS time for Bobby Cox to go.

Mark Bradley

September 22nd, 2009
1:03 am

I think Bobo will be a hot commodity very soon.

Sprocket

September 22nd, 2009
1:08 am

Move CWM back to DB coach, fire CJJ (the real weak link), hire a DC/ LB coach.

Pecan

September 22nd, 2009
1:10 am

I said this two years ago and I’ll say it again: As much money as the UGA athletic department makes, there is no reason that we can not have the absolute best coach at every position. I think Coach Richt will be forced to make some changes after the bowls, if not sooner. The only thing that concerns me is that we have so many top defensive players committed and some may “de-commit” if their position coach is replaced.

Pecan

September 22nd, 2009
1:14 am

Why did we force Hugh Durham out? Georgia basketball will never recover.

Class of '98

September 22nd, 2009
1:26 am

Thanks, Mark. Number four alone is enough for me.

Enough excuses about turnovers leading to bad field position for the defense. What I see is completely uncovered receivers, and defenders that seem to be completely lost as to where they need to be at any given moment.

We scored 52 points and the game was still in doubt until the final couple of minutes.

He’s gotta go.

Class of '98

September 22nd, 2009
1:27 am

Actually, I meant number three. I think about BVG all the time. We’d be top 5 right now (and last year) with him.

BugKiller

September 22nd, 2009
1:31 am

You know, you go for years and years, reading the AJC and it’s sports writers refusing to take much of a stand on anything, always treading the line of kissing player-coach butt and trying as well not to pi$$ off the readers, who have a million different opinions.

I don’t know how and why this had changed (actually, I do, it’s called the internet and things like page views, which will either go up with a writer / blogger is willing to be brutally honest or sensationalist).

Well, Bradley is far too Southern to be sensationalist. That’s for the New York Post.

But this is as brutally honest as I’ve ever seen ANY writer at the AJC, either print or online, EVER be.

And that’s brutally honest while remaining intellectually honest, too.

So where are Cuz and Altamaha and atl-axman and all the others with their Red & Black glasses and their hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil attitude?

Try and defend the indefensible Willie Martinez now, you bunch of numbnuts.

He Hate Gator

September 22nd, 2009
1:32 am

Mark, you just made Bug Killer’s day! …the stats speak for themselves…

He Hate Gator

September 22nd, 2009
1:33 am

The special teams ain’t too hot either…

bkbroila

September 22nd, 2009
1:42 am

DADGUM….Mark…you had me at #1….inconcievable!!!

meansonny

September 22nd, 2009
1:44 am

It is a totally different SEC since Van Gorder left…

In 2004, SEC teams scored 3,495 points.
In 2008, SEC teams scored 3,936 points (63 more touchdowns).
In 2009 (3 weeks), SEC teams have scored 1,156 points. That could be over 4600 points by season’s end.

And our non-conference play has been much tougher the past couple of seasons, too.
We’re facing better coordinators and better QB’s than under Van Gorder and Erk’s era.

A blind man can see that trend. Common sense tells you that Van Gorder wouldn’t meet his own standards in this SEC (have we seen what he does with inferior talent at the Falcons?)

We don’t have the pre-season All Americans that we had back in Van Gorder’s day. You can blame Willie for that. But you win with playmakers. Every coach will tell you that.
And your defense is defined by it’s personnel (that’s why Van Gorder runs a bend but don’t break defense with the Falcons).

Back in Herschel Walker’s day… it was 3 yards and a cloud of dust. Herschel would run for 160 yards. But the team would only score 10 points… That was offense and defense back then. Low scoring.

Too many fans are longing for the defenses of old… well the reality is that the offenses of new would kick the fanny of defenses of old (look at how Spurrier changed the SEC).

Martinez is far from perfect. But I fear a mob mentality that is looking at the results without looking at why (and no… mob mentality is never a good thing).

BugKiller

September 22nd, 2009
1:51 am

He Hate Gator…

… I’m not so inclined to blame Jon Fabris for the ST as I am Mark Richt.

For some ungodly reason, Richt has decided to make his DE coach also work special teams. He has a DE coach and a DT coach (instead of a DL coach), but no ST coach?

It makes no sense, but it speaks to the general lack of urgency and attention to the details that this coaching staff obviously lacks.

All of the successful, MNC-winning coaches either work as their own ST Coach (Meyer) or have a dedicated ST coach (all the rest).

I just don’t understand Mark Richt’s philosophy, as it comes to his coaches (it’s NEVER his coach’s fault, it’s always the players not executing the coach’s AWESOME schemes, ahem, but WHO’S coaching the players, dammit!?!?!?) or his thinking that he can keep on getting away without having a dedicated ST coach.

No attention to detail on this staff. No urgency. Why would they have urgency? They know Richt will never fire them.

It was the same thing that brought Tommy Tubberville down. The SAME thing. He had his BBQ Boys, and they KNEW they were untouchable.

You people don’t think Martinez and Fabris feel the same way? Why else would Fabris continue insisting that his kicker do these RIDICULOUS directional kicks when they’re NOT WORKING??? Why else would Martinez stick with his horrible gameplans without making ANY adjustments (besides, you know, that he doesn’t know how)?

They think they’re untouchable.

It’s time for Damon Evans to do what Mark Richt refuses to do.

This is a BUSINESS. It is not a country club for Richt’s best friends to have lifetime memberships to, or, you know, for Richt himself. I think Coach Richt is outstanding.

But his loyalty will be his undoing. And the shame of it all is, while I’m sure Willie Martinez is a great guy and deserves Richt’s loyalty as a FRIEND, Richt has confused the situation, and given Martinez his loyalty as a boss, when Martinez has done NOTHING to earn it.

Mark,

Some other things of note:

When Willie Martinez took over Central Michigan’s defense, they were one of the BEST defenses in the MAC.

When he left for Georgia two years later, suddenly, Central Michigan had one of the WORST defenses in the MAC.

This is NOT coincidence.

ALL of the trends are AGAINST success under Martinez. He’s horrible. He’s inept. He’s in-over-his-head.

He needs to go.

DaddyDawg

September 22nd, 2009
1:52 am

Mark:

It’s one thing to say that Coach Martinez should be demoted at the end of the year, but it is another thing entirely to say that he should be demoted ASAP after only 3 games this season. To date, the Dawgs’ defense have been hurt by injuries, youth, inexperience and a suspension, coupled with a difficult schedule against good teams (i.e., no patsies) with 2 games on the road and 2 games in the SEC. Yet, despite the fact that the offense and special teams have 9 turnovers in 3 games, somehow, someway, GA is 2-1 and 2-0 in the SEC, and has the talent to improve on defense as we develop much-needed experience and depth at defensive end and at cornerback, two vitally key positions in a successful pass defense, the area that has been the real issue in GA’s defensive problems to date.

Yes, GA has signficant issues on defense, but I believe we will see significant improvement on defense throughout the year as we develop experience and depth at defensive end and at cornerback (we lost our most experienced DE Rod Battle for the year, Justin Houston was suspended for the first 2 games, and Kiante Tripp, perhaps our most talented big athlete on the team, has yet to play, with redshirt freshman Cornelius Washington showing promise as he plays more and more; at CB, we’re looking for continued improvement from talented but young players like Brandon Boykin and Brandon Smith), but this must be done in the heat of battle on gameday. So, there will be some ups and downs on defense as these young players develop during the season, but the Dawgs will improve, just as they did after a poor showing in Knoxville in ‘07 when the Dawgs lost 35-14 and yet went on to finish #2 in the country! And if our offense and special teams can cut down on penalties and turnovers, our defense will become even better.

For all of the above reasons, Coach Martinez is going nowhere right now as he will be evaluated at the end of the season, as it should be. At that point, Coach Martinez can be fairly evaluated and his fate determined by how his defense responded after a difficult start, and only then it would be fair to let the chips fall where they may. But to suggest that Coach Martinez be demoted now after only 3 games into the season overlooks the causes for the defensive problems to date, and the likelihood that the defense can show significant improvement throughout the year as experience is gained and depth is developed at critical positions. More important, your article demonstrates a reckless irresponsibility on your part that speaks more of stirring the pot and fomenting controversy and conflict in an effort to generate web hits and ad revenue in a modern day example of yellow journalism. If only the AJC could provide such critical coverage of far more important things, such as President Obama’s policies to “fundamentally transform the nation,” as it has Coach Martinez, then perhaps the AJC would have a real chance to avoid inevitable financial collapse from such shallow “journalism,” if you can call it that, but admittedly, the practice of real journalism on such an important topic would adversely affect the AJC’s chances of a federal bailout!!

Gravy Train

September 22nd, 2009
1:55 am

I would like to see what a different scheme could do for this group, but then I really watch the entire defense play and I notice several things that any scheme in the world might not fix:

1. Our defensive ends are not getting off their blocks. Between Jeff and Geno on the interior, one of them should be commanding double teams, while the other gets in the back feild.

2. Our corners can’t handle man coverage. All of the deep TD passes Mallett had were in single coverages. How do you make a play on the ball when you have your back to it? They have their back to the ball because they got dusted and are trying to catch up.

3. Delayed LB zone blitzes are not very effective and leave the middle of the feild wide open.

I think Willy is bald from pulling his hair out trying to come up with ways to mask these deficiencies.
This squad has been stout against the run and they are very young in the secondary. I don’t remember Van Gorder ever having that problem. BVG had the luxury of inheriting a great group of seasoned players. That’s why I would be curious to see what he might do with this group, because I’m not sure there would be much of a difference.

Are Pete Carroll and Jim Tressell on the hot seat now? How about ole Turkey Neck down in Atlanta?
What happens to Dogs that bite the hand that feeds them?

Hairy Dawg

September 22nd, 2009
2:00 am

Simple question: Does you think the Bulldogs’ personnel ranks in the nation’s lower tier in terms of speed, strength and level of aggression?

I’m sure a few people does, but I doesn’t.

Gravy Train

September 22nd, 2009
2:05 am

Damn. Forgot about “i before e.”

meansonny

September 22nd, 2009
2:05 am

Gravy train… you’re spot on.

Fixing this defense is tough. Martinez has shown man coverages. He has shown blitzes. But more often than not… they are not working. More often than not, the blitzes are getting picked up and the QB’s are making their proper reads against us (which yields them a big gain).

And the majority of the mob mentality (internet fans… of course) complain about a soft zone / bend but don’t break defense.

CWM has a lot of problems right now. #1 is to develop a pass rush without exposing our team to losses.

Grantland Rice

September 22nd, 2009
2:06 am

Sounds like Mark’s been hanging around too much with some Awbarn players when he starts a sentence with “Does you think …?”

misterwax

September 22nd, 2009
2:09 am

As a Tech fan and alum, I hope he sticks around to the end of the year…..gives us a better chance to take advantage….BZZZZZ

BugKiller

September 22nd, 2009
2:09 am

Willie Martinez HAND-PICKED every single one of these players.

BVG did inheiret some great players.

He ALSO took average to nothing players and MADE them great.

Martinez inheirited some great players. He then proceeded to coach them down.

Now that he has the MOST RAW TALENTED RECRUITS IN GEORGIA’S HISTORY… what is he doing with them???

He is NOT coaching them up. He is NOT making them better. He is NOT getting them drafted.

Willie Martinez is a FAILURE as a coach.

The afternoon show here in Athens had some interesting numbers.

Last year, Georgia had turnovers on their side 14 times. Our defense then gave up over 90 points.

Florida’s offense, surprisingly, turned over the ball 12 times on their side. Not that big a difference, CERTAINLY not as big as the Willie-defenders would have us believe.

The gave up 26 points!!!

The difference in BVG’s defenses and Martinez’s defenses is that when our offense was bad, and the offense was WORSE during BVG’s years.

Why don’t you people remember THAT? Why don’t you remember all the games when our offense couldn’t muster more than 17 points???

BVG’s defenses CARRIED this team.

Now, if the offense can only score 17 points, we KNOW we’re gonna lose.

When the offense is bad now, the defense doesn’t carry the team, the defense lays down.

That’s about COACHING. That’s about ATTITUDE.

COACHING!!!

What the hell is wrong with you people? What the hell is wrong with you Gravy Train? Why do you feel the need to defend the mediocrity that is Willie Martinez?

Why do you not want to see the Dawgs win?

And why in the high holy hell do you find every way you can to attempt to tear down BVG (and lying the whole time) while trying to defend the indefensible Willie Martinez???

I swear to God, dude, your worse than the Vick Fans. You’re worse than Bad News who has nothing else to say but calling Matt Ryan “Noodle Arm.”

How can people attempt to tear down one of the best DC’s this team has ever had, whose unit CARRIED this team for four years, whose unit NEVER let the team down, and then stand there and defend the WORST DC this team has ever had?

You people are mentally challenged.

How many times over the last 4 + years has Martinez’s unit carried the team? How many times have they let the team down? How many times did they need to make a stop, but couldn’t. How many times have they failed to pick up the offense when the offense made a mistake???

You idiots really need to take a long, hard look in the mirror, take off your red & black colored glasses, and firmly pull your heads out of your a$$es.

IDIOTS!!!

BugKiller

September 22nd, 2009
2:14 am

And again, yet another FACT that people like Gravy Train refuse to talk about:

When Willie Martinez took over Central Michigan’s defense as their DC, they had previously had one of the best defenses in the MAC. I believe they were No. 2 overall the year before he took over.

When Willie Martinez left two years later for Georgia, they had one of the WORST defenses in the MAC.

In two short years, Martinez DESTROYED the Central Michigan defense.

What is happening at Georgia is NOT coincidence. It’s happened before.

It is time for Damon Evans to step in and do what Mark Richt refuses to do.

meansonny

September 22nd, 2009
2:17 am

Hairy Dawg… who are our preseason all americans on defense?

I credit the defense for stepping up against Arkansas late. I credit them for limiting the damage from all of those turnovers and gimme field positions to South Carolina. I credit them for playing respectable against Oklahoma State on the road.

They are doing this with smoke and mirrors. I would not guarantee anybody on our defense a starting position in the NFL. There are a few 1st day draft picks…
but Geno Atkins was above average without Jeff Owens on the other side last season. And both of them have been good thus far in the season (good in college football does not equal starter in the NFL).
Rennie Curran is very small for a LB in the NFL. And he isn’t known for his cover skills (if someone thinks of converting him to safety). He’ll play and contribute. But I don’t know if he starts.
Reshad Jones has not excelled at this level of play. He’ll get picked up by an NFL team… but he’ll have the fight of his life to make a squad out of pre-season camp.

I have no problem if you blame Martinez for the talent we have.
But recognize the level of talent we have. It’s not Pollack, Thomas, Thurman, Seymour or Grant.
It’s definitely a notch below.

Jeff

September 22nd, 2009
2:19 am

As a Georgia fan, I’ve never been in favor of “change just for change’s sake”… but the last 2 or 3 years, seeing this defense struggle time and time and time again against good teams, makes me believe that yes, Mark, you’re spot-on and it’s time for a change. No, I won’t blame all 102 points on Willie Martinez (turnovers and special teams mistakes HAVE put our D in some bad spots)… but it’s inexcusable to not make some big stands to hold opponents out of the end zone (the final play vs. South Carolina non-withstanding). Just think: if freakin’ South Carolina and Arkansas can do this to us, what will LSU and Florida and Ga. Tech do? Going back to last year, EVERY half-decent-to-good offense — Bama, LSU, Florida, Tech, OK State, and now Arkansas and South Carolina — have scored pretty much at will against us. That has to stop!

The problem is not personnel, like it was last year (too many injuries robbed us of some potential in 2008)… the problem seems to be coaching. When an AVERAGE SEC team like Arkansas can light you up for 41, something is wrong. We made Mallett look like a Heisman winner! And we cannot ask our offense to score 45 or 50 points every week to win games. AT SOME POINT, you have to win a 14-10 rain-soaked slugfest, and right now, we can’t do that.

I don’t know if it’s best to make a change mid-season… those rarely go well… and I don’t want the distractions for the team. But I think Mark Richt had BETTER have a sit-down with Willie and, in direct language, tell him “The defense improves and stops people, you stay… we give up 30 a game the rest of the year, you’re out. Period.”

We also need to think about what coach may be out there to be the next DC… let’s not just pull the trigger without knowing the next guy WILL be better.

And to think… many of us thought we’d be 8-4 this year because our OFFENSE had question marks. With Owens back and players like Curran and Jones and Gamble and Atkins back, we SWORE our defense would be ok. Amazing how three games can change your perspective. Sad to say, I still don’t think we’ll be better than 8-4 this year.

Bottom line: Richt has to tell his defensive players AND coaches that what we’ve seen so far is UNACCEPTABLE. Hold people accountable. You play will and do the right thing, you play. You f-up and you sit. If you’re a coach, and your guys blow a game, you may be gone. Put pressure on these people… they are playing for their JOBS.

GO DAWGS!

meansonny

September 22nd, 2009
2:22 am

Bugkiller…
I remember an LSU game where we scored 2 defensive touchdowns in Baton Rouge. We won the game by 14. Everyone talks about or offense scoring 52 points on LSU… But they seem to forget the real reason we won.

Bugkiller…
I remember when Brian Van Gorder left the Bulldawgs. Then he left Georgia Southern. He somehow managed to find time to leave South Carolina.

Now he has managed to operate a bend but don’t break defense for the Atlanta Falcons ranking #22 in the NFL last season.

Good grief. He’s the defensive version of Bobby Petrino. Why the heck is he held in high esteem when he runs out of town in the middle of the night? That’s not a coach. That’s a coward.

BugKiller

September 22nd, 2009
2:28 am

Jeff,

You’re not sure there’s someone better out there???

Who could possibly be WORSE???

Fire him now. Replace him with Garner in the prelim. If Garner does better, keep Garner.

If Garner doesn’t do that much better, give Garner a raise (too valuable a recruiter) and then hire someone of off Saban’s staff. Go after Muschamp. Look to Boise State’s DC.

There are about 300 guys out there BETTER than Martinez.

Tim

September 22nd, 2009
2:28 am

Once again, you’ve proved you’re an idiot. Where is Terrence Moore? At least he probably knew he was writing dribble.

Michael

September 22nd, 2009
2:30 am

No. 3 probably damns Martinez the most. I remember as Richt’s tenure kept going that I noticed how Georgia NEVER gave up 30 points and was always within a touchdown in each game except for one or two games. Those two games were a 14-point loss to Florida in 2001 and that butt-whooping by LSU in 2003.

This defense shouldn’t be the worst in the SEC, let alone one of the worst in the nation. Defense is ALL about points. If Georgia was giving up 500 yards but 17 points, that’s not a huge deal. But that unit is just a breaking damn for everything.

The defense is ultimately Richt’s responsibility, which means he needs to fix it. Many of us seem to think it’s Martinez, and the past two years SCREAM that something has to be done. Whatever it is, a big change, be it personnel or coaching, needs to happen now.

Agree!

September 22nd, 2009
2:36 am

Could not agree more with BugKiller-spot on!

meansonny, you obviously haven’t been paying attention for a few years. What comes first, the chicken or the egg…preseason individual accolades or performance. If the defense wasn’t getting torched each game last year, you don’t think we would have had a lot of preseason awards? Also those misses by Mallett late in the game were on him…He had time on many of those throws, his receivers were wide open, and he just missed them.

Most of the 3rd quarter our DBs weren’t even in the same zip code as the Ark receivers. Pathetic! And I do not believe these gifted athletes just became average players.

And if we don’t kick the ball deep in the endzone, bullheaded Fabris needs to be relocated also.

meansonny

September 22nd, 2009
3:11 am

Agree!
Facts are facts… we don’t have that level of playmaker anymore. Especially at the DE position (although I like what I’m seeing from a very young Cornelius Washington).
Our shortcomings are squarely placed on two facets (1: we’re playing better offenses than we’ve seen historically & 2: we don’t have the ability to put any pressure on the QB)

I don’t see a lot of our defensive players from the past 2 seasons making big waves on the NFL defensive depth charts. Not even the NFL coaches (of a Brian Van Gorder caliber? LOL) can coach them up.

A playmaker at DE will force QB’s to step forward into our big DT’s.
A playmaker at DE will force Mallett type throws (of the 4th quarter variety).
A playmaker at DE will allow our defense to drop more interceptions (I know that’s another fault of Willie Martinez, too).

It’s the same as 2007… when Marcus Howard stepped up to the plate, we were a totally different defense. During BVG & in the years directly preceding him, we had excelent defensive end play.
If we find production on the edges, then we’re more than halfway there to a solid defense (top 20 nationally, just like Willie Martinez provided in 2005, 2006, & 2007. I don’t expect better than top 20 nationally like many).

Regarding Mallett’s shortcomings… are you hoping that he succeeds? We get pressure on him and he forces throws. He crumbled under the pressure of the moment. We were getting in his face in the 4th quarter. We were getting to him. But you seem to wish him success? Maybe to further an agenda against Martinez? Maybe if we lose more games… you can be right all along! How great would that be!

meansonny

September 22nd, 2009
3:16 am

Agree!
Regarding Blair Walsh… he’s the 2nd best kicker (kickoffs) in the SEC right now.

Do you hope he struggles too so you can blast Fabris? Maybe you can be right about that all along, too! How great would it be to wish people to lose their jobs and get your wish?
Maybe that could overcome your personal shortcomings in this great economy of ours.

UGAKev {true dawg fan}

September 22nd, 2009
3:38 am

That right there in the article said it all!!!!!>>>>>Over the past nine games, Georgia opponents have averaged — averaged — 33 points. In 42 games under Brian VanGorder, whom Martinez succeeded as defensive coordinator, one opponent scored more than 30 points, and that was the 2003 BCS champion.

honest_abe

September 22nd, 2009
3:39 am

meansonny: truer words have never been spoken. all starts with pressure up front. this d hasn’t changed much schematically since when bvg was here. the only difference was back then we always had a stud defensive end and usually great safeties. reshad jones has been a major disappointment ever since he stepped on campus as has bryan evans. as for the corners they’ve been burned but they’ve been in position to make plays… i can point to several throws by mallet that could only have been caught by the reciever and it was.

having said all that the d needs to improve. it starts up front. i actually saw pressure from our ends for the first time in two years. cornelius washington and justin houston might be the answer to all of our problems. the secondary need to improve their play. period.

UGAKev {true dawg fan}

September 22nd, 2009
3:41 am

I guarantee you if Van Gorder never left we have atleast 1 national title!

honest_abe

September 22nd, 2009
3:45 am

just because a recruit is a five star athlete it doesnt’ mean they will succeed on the college level.

dobbs hasn’t shown me anything except the fact that he has long arms. i have no idea how rod battle was a starter for a such a long time (that says something about georgia’s depth at defensive end), he’s been about as unproductive as jamaal anderson for the falcons. as for the safeties reshad jones was about as heralded as eric berry coming out of high school. but he hasn’t proven to be a playmaker. are all of you willie bashers trying to tell me if reshad had went to tennessee he’d be playing like berry and vice versa? didn’t think so. willie might not be a mastermind as a defensive coordinator but he’s not as bad as people are making him out to be. the d will improve.

Hampton Dawg

September 22nd, 2009
4:05 am

This is a trend that has gotten progressively worse. Not every good or great college player makes it in the NFL. I agree that the poor defensive play last season kept UGA from having any preseason All-Americans. Offenses are scoring more in today’s games. However, great defenses DON’T allow 45 to anyone. Did UF score 49 on Alabama last year? I may be wrong, but I doubt that USC & Ark rack up that many points against other SEC defenses.

Larry

September 22nd, 2009
4:12 am

Mark,

Just like the journalistic courage you exemplified yesterday on Bobby Cox, your candor, boldness and willingness to professionally and politely challenge (or at least open for debate) questionable practices continue to fertilize my growing respect for you. Touché!

Your evidence against Martinez is overwhelming, convincing and indisputable; yet, despite such, amazingly you have a couple of dissenters here whom are lacking the standard cognitive necessities to comprehend the facts and facts are unwavering, unlike opinions.

Good job!

Larry (1-14)

Gravy Train

September 22nd, 2009
4:14 am

Give Fred Munzenmaier a shot at defensive end. He’s got the same build as Pollack and might even be faster.

Give Willy a Pollack and Thomas Davis and that alone in combination with the existing players would make a BVG type of production. BVG rode the coat tails of phenominal players.
A lie you say? Well Jake Delhomme looked like a pro-bowler against the Falcons last Sunday. He looked washed up the week prior. Why is that?

Is Monte Kiffin on the hot seat yet? He’s lost two games out of three. What are the excuses there? He’s the guru of the Tampa 2, yet he has dropped two games? Is he not “coaching them up?”

Instead of moaning and groaning, why not come up with suggestions?
I know you can’t do it unless its on the Play Station…

You are not a true fan if you are lobbying for a mid-season change. We will lose recruits and stability if that happens.

Bug, I’m still waiting for you to tell us about your D-1 playing and coaching experience that gives you this perch to sit on.

What we are seeing is growing pains from a very young secondary. Who wants to step up and be a play maker?

Recruiting ratings are as effective as preseason rankings.

heeldawg

September 22nd, 2009
4:35 am

Mark, you’re right. That’s all I have to say about that.

Who Cares!

September 22nd, 2009
5:15 am

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winterdawg

September 22nd, 2009
5:46 am

The knee jerk reaction is to say fire the guy. You have to ask yourself what you want from your collegiate football program. Richt is loyal. Is that such a terrible thing? This loyalty and commitment to his family is also apparent when coaches like Rodney Garner and Stacy Searels turn down more money from other big time programs, including their alum schools to stay with Richt. You praise Mark Richt’s family values and Christian nature when we win but you rip these values or forget them altogether when a unit struggles. Willie Martinez is a great person and nobody that you’d rather have around young men. Personally, I do think he deserves the rest of this season but if it doesn’t turn around then the demotion needs to happen. However, you fans that can only scream “fire the man”, I ask this, would you fire your freind? Would you want to be cutloose from your livelihood which you love doing and done so by you friend? If you want Bobby Petrino types running your program then be honesst with what you want. Immeidate results and rebuilding every five years when those types leave your program or bring in such athletic degenerates that your PR department is on overdrive and your staring at NCAA penalties. Do you want to have class and steady success or win at all costs environment? I know the answer from most of you. It’s not the program I want.

JTH

September 22nd, 2009
5:55 am

“Richt’s blind loyalty to Soft Willie is exactly the type of thing that got Fulmer canned at UT. ”

Excellent point. Please CMR, you are the best thing to happen to UGA football since Dooley was forced out and no reasonable person wants to see you go, but………….. if you cant see the forest for the trees then maybe you need to go too.

Blind loyalty isn’t really loyal, just blind.

Motown Hound

September 22nd, 2009
5:58 am

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JTH

September 22nd, 2009
6:03 am

“I think Bobo will be a hot commodity very soon.”

Yeah, in hell. Bobo’s play calling was the only reason UGA lost the game to OK ST. The first drive was brillant and exposed the OK’s weaknesses, and then Bobo totally abandoned what worked. He needs to learn to be more consistenet in exploiting a teams weakness and quit trying to “out-fancy” a team. Until then color me unimpressed. UGA should have racked up the points against Arkansas, so that was no surprise and mistakes were the only reason they had to come from behind.