5 candidates to take over the Braves after Bobby Cox

Earlier today we offered 5 reasons Bobby Cox should step aside. Some of you then asked the logical follow-up: OK, genius, who would you hire to replace him? Here, presented in order of preference, is my short list:

1. Brad Mills, Red Sox bench coach: He has apprenticed beside Terry Francona, who’s  the second-best manager in baseball — Minnesota’s Ron Gardenhire is the best — and who was Mills’ college roommate. He’s steeped in the Sox system of  numbers-crunching, which would surely delight the stat geeks on DOB’s blog, and has been known to use the word “sabermetrics” in conversation.

2. Jose Oquendo, Cardinals third base coach: He’s considered the first choice to succeed Tony La Russa in St. Louis, but nobody’s sure when La Russa will leave. Oquendo is a key player liaison, having built an alliance with the taciturn Albert Pujols. (Ah, but you’re asking: Could he get along with Yunel Escobar? Probably.)

3. Dave Duncan, Cardinals pitching coach: There’s a spotty history for pitching coaches as managers. Roger Craig was a good one, Ray Miller less good. (And Leo Mazzone, the best pitching coach ever, never got a managerial sniff.) But the belief in St. Louis is that Duncan, La Russa’s longtime No. 2, wants out: He’s said to be angry at the local media over the treatment of his son Chris, whom the Cardinals traded to Boston last month. And it’s worth noting that Duncan wasn’t actually a pitcher himself. He was a catcher for the Oakland A’s of the early ’70s.

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4. Terry Pendleton, Braves hitting coach: If the Braves stay in-house, he’s the guy. He’s respected by the players — Jeff Francoeur’s flight to Texas for instruction shouldn’t be viewed as a consensus opinion — and beloved by the brass. He’s a hard worker who played under two of the best managers ever in Cox and Whitey Herzog, and he’s also a bit of a hard nose. (He rides a Harley!) Which, coming after the gentle ways of Bobby Cox, might not be a bad thing.

5. Scott Ullger, Twins third base coach: If Gardenhire is the best — and he is — why not grab his chief lieutenant? Ullger is a lifer in the Twins’ system and has managed in the minors. Plus, you have to admire a guy whose official bio reads: “Experience: A lot.”

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UGA ALL THE WAY

September 21st, 2009
2:18 pm

Sorry, but i might be the only one to say it but Terry was a good player and is already in good with the team and the Braves organization. He’s the guy i would have follow Bobby.

Bama Aaron

September 21st, 2009
2:18 pm

I wouldn’t put Pendleton in the top 5. I’ve seen no real proof that he’s much of a hitting coach, regardless how much Braves brass likes him. And if you can’t do your current job you have no business getting the promotion.
If I have to choose from those guys I’ll take Mills.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
2:20 pm

I’d like to see them look outside the chain. That’s why I have TP only fourth on the list.

Joey

September 21st, 2009
2:21 pm

Really hung up on the number 5, huh Mark? Why not Greg Maddux? Supposedly one of the smartest guys to ever throw a baseball for a living….

Tale of Woe

September 21st, 2009
2:21 pm

MB – I take it you were not considering current managers. Though you lost me with TP. I haven’t seen enough from him. How about Ned Yost?

Chief Nock A Homa

September 21st, 2009
2:24 pm

In the poll, where is the selection for “other”??

I don’t like any of these choices…

Who else you got???

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
2:24 pm

Why would you hire someone whose previous team fired him as it was about to make the playoffs? Is there a brighter red flag?

Gary

September 21st, 2009
2:24 pm

Yeah, but some things TP showed as a player was his understanding of defensive alignments and offensive situations such as when to bunt, when to hit and run, and when to just flat out steal. You never saw TP making mental errors in the field and he has always had the leadership quality. He is the obvious choice and would make a smooth transition since the players and organization know him well.

Gardenhire worked under the underrated Tom Kelly for years in the Twins organization and was the only choice to replace Tom when he decided to retire. Pendleton has the same resume with the Braves and I bet would be a very good manager.

macdwolfpack

September 21st, 2009
2:25 pm

Mark, nice writeups and I think timely conversations.
I totally agree that 1-it is time for a move, and 2-the next Manager should come outside the system. I don’t know if they could entice him or not but I’d also inquire of the current Marlins Manager Freddie Gonzalez. Freddie has his team above the Braves in t he standing without spending nearly as many bucks as the Braves have. He also appears to be able to handle young players as well.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
2:25 pm

I don’t think Maddux has any desire to manage.

matt_t

September 21st, 2009
2:25 pm

What about Fredi Gonzalez? He’s done quite well down in FL with no payroll, could Atlanta pry him away from Florida?

Escobar Rocks

September 21st, 2009
2:25 pm

Brad Mills would be my choice only because he has apprenticed under Francona. Terry Pendleton….ugh…no thanks. I think the Braves have become kind of stale so maybe an outsider with fresh ideas would be a welcome change.

What about Ned Yost?

I hope that they can keep Chino Cadahia around. He seems to be good for the young Latin players.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
2:27 pm

Fredi Gonzalez isn’t on the list because he has a managerial job at the major-league level, and guys who do don’t usually jump between clubs. (Bruce Bochy would be the exception.)

Dawgdad

September 21st, 2009
2:28 pm

I think a little Davy Johnson would help this team achieve their potential.

atlwolf

September 21st, 2009
2:29 pm

I think Phillip Wellman should be considered. You know, the guy who once crawled soldier-style to the pitcher’s mound, then lobbed the rosin bag like a grenade at the umpire. The Braves need that kind of fire!

Brian

September 21st, 2009
2:30 pm

There is a reason Dave Duncan has been one of the best pitching coaches in baseball for a long time, and has never been a manager. He probably doesn’t want to be a manager, and pitching coaches very rarely become managers anyway.

I think the most likely outside-of-the-organization candidate is one you didn’t even mention: Fredi Gonzalez.

But I also think the Braves won’t be thinking about this at least for another year.

Gary

September 21st, 2009
2:31 pm

Now while advocate Terry Pendleton just because of the smooth transition factor; another name within the organization might at least deserve some look and that is Eddie Perez. I don’t know but something about Eddie gives me the impression that he would be a very good manager if given the chance. Plus former ML Catchers seem to make very good managers.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
2:31 pm

Wait a second. We’re sincerely considering a guy because he once went nuts on the field? Really? Then why not hire Milton Bradley (no relation)?

Tale of Woe

September 21st, 2009
2:32 pm

Fredi Gonzalez, Ned Yost, or if Eric Wedge got fired would be my choices.

After that, how about Claudell Washington, Chris Chambliss, or Terry Harper?

Ok, your list will just have to do

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
2:33 pm

Davey Johnson doesn’t have a job for good reason. He’s not an option.

Brian

September 21st, 2009
2:34 pm

Gary, I agree. I think Eddie Perez is a better and more likely in-house candidate than Terry Pendleton.

Has there ever been any indication from Braves brass that Pendleton is some sort of “successor”? Or is that just an assumption among many fans?

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
2:34 pm

I’d sure as heck hire Eddie Perez before I’d hire Wellman.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
2:35 pm

The Pendleton-as-next-in-line has never been addressed by the Braves themselves.

Eric

September 21st, 2009
2:38 pm

My vote is for Terry Forster, Ken Oberkfell,or Bob Horner. Or can we pry Bruce Benedict away from refereeing?

Bama Aaron

September 21st, 2009
2:38 pm

Good point E…Rocks. At this point in time a fresh take on things I think would be very helpful. I have nothing personally against TP, but I think he’s been in the system so long he’d just be more of the same.
Only regret I think I would have is I like current hitting coach and you don’t know if you’d keep him once a change is made.

Bama Aaron

September 21st, 2009
2:39 pm

Good point E…Rocks. At this point in time a fresh take on things I think would be very helpful. I have nothing personally against TP, but I think he’s been in the system so long he’d just be more of the same.
Only regret I think I would have is I like current pitching coach and you don’t know if you’d keep him once a change is made.

Gary

September 21st, 2009
2:39 pm

You’re right, the succession has never been discussed. Add to that the fact that Pendleton has had several managerial interviews and is still the Braves hitting coach. He was even up for the Phillies manager position once they fired Larry Bowa several years ago.

I personally think he would be a good manager, but obviously his managing philosophy hasn’t translated into a job at the Major League level. (look at me already second guessing my first choice). Of course that could be because he is waiting for Bobby to retire so he can be the man in Atlanta.

Bama Aaron

September 21st, 2009
2:40 pm

Sorry for the double post….tried to correct an error before I hit send and couldn’t stop it.

Don Gill

September 21st, 2009
2:41 pm

Enter your comments here How about Dusty Baker. A perfect fit. Don Gill

Brian

September 21st, 2009
2:43 pm

Regarding Fredi Gonzalez, again let’s remember that a low payroll doesn’t mean low talent. The Marlins might have the best player and best pitcher on either team. It is no fluke that that Marlins have a solid team…they have a lot of solid players. Solid players that they will lose as soon as they hit 6 years of service time. But they usually find ways to replace them with more good young players. Great scouting, great development. And yes, a pretty good manager. But he’s not working with some sort of AAA team.

webhead

September 21st, 2009
2:43 pm

TP is one of the reasons Cox should go. Why reward him with the top job? I swear it’s like everybody has taken crazy pills.

MatthewH

September 21st, 2009
2:44 pm

You mention Bochy as the exception (managers going from one major league job to another) Shoudn’t you have counted the current manager of the Yankees?
As for who should manage, I’d go with Dave Duncan (if he wants to manage). What he’s done with the Cardins’ pitching staff (especially a few years ago) is remarkable.
Stay dry.

webhead

September 21st, 2009
2:46 pm

Keep Cox wait two years and then hire Chipper.

BravesFan79

September 21st, 2009
2:47 pm

Why is Floridas manager not in your top 5?
Id go with Mills and Ullger second tho.

MatthewH

September 21st, 2009
2:49 pm

sorry- should read “Cardinals’”

NYCBrave

September 21st, 2009
2:51 pm

Hi Mark, always enjoy your column. Why is Gardenhire the best manager in baseball?

Loveofthegame

September 21st, 2009
2:53 pm

Fredi Gonzalez was given a 3 year contract extension after he won the 2008 manager of the year award,,,so he is contracted to the Marlins through the 2011 season,,,, I dont think the Marlins would grant the Braves the right to talk to him

SC Ace

September 21st, 2009
2:53 pm

The fact that Wellman kept his job in spite of that well-publicized tirade should say something about the man’s abilities and the regard the Braves have for him. I recall DOB writing about Wellman getting the September coach call-up last year because Mississippi had a great season – he indicated that Wellman genuinely seemed well liked and well respected by the players who had played for him down there. You can’t say the man wouldn’t bring a bit of fire. Besides, you’re talking about an organization replacing the man who has the most career ejections in history.

That said, I like the idea of giving Eddie Perez a bigger role.

Brian

September 21st, 2009
2:53 pm

In addition to Bochy and Torre, Dusty Baker left the Giants to take the Cubs. Tony LaRussa left the A’s for the Cardinals. Leyland left the Pirates for the Marlins, and the Marlins for the Rockies. Piniella left the Mariners for the Devil Rays. In none of these cases was the manager fired. It happens more often than you’re letting on, I think, Mark.

Brian

September 21st, 2009
2:55 pm

Sorry, Piniella was “traded” to Tampa. He was a little different.

Gary

September 21st, 2009
2:55 pm

Also, let’s remind everyone that Freddie Gonzales is not only not on Mark’s list for his reason above, but also for the fact that the Marlins signed him to an extension before the season began. He isn’t leaving Florida, especially with a new stadium coming and all that talent.

I like Freddie and think of him as a great manager in the making, but the Marlins are not letting him go, especially to a division and region rival like the Braves.

Also Matthew, Giradi was fired by the Marlins and then hired a season later by the Yankees. Bouchy is the only recent manager to up and switch teams. Dusty Baker was in 2003 as well.

And please do not ever, ever…..mention Dusty Baker and Braves manager in the same sentence. That would be the end of Jair Jurrjens and Tommy Hanson. Dusty has a nice streak going of killing young pitchers.

F-105 Thunderchief

September 21st, 2009
2:55 pm

“Why would you hire someone whose previous team fired him as it was about to make the playoffs? Is there a brighter red flag?”

Well, it’s the Brewers’, spawning ground of the inept Bud Selig. So, I’ll mix semaphores and take that red flag with a grain of salt.

Nittany Lion

September 21st, 2009
2:55 pm

Don’t hire TP. I don’t want him getting a hold on Freeman. He can’t do his job as a hitting coach let alone a manager. Francouer gets sent down. Chipper has bad year, Mac has an 0-20. Do you want want him influencing young talent at the major league level?

BravesFanInFL

September 21st, 2009
2:56 pm

Fredi just signed an extension, so he’s probably out of the mix anyway. The best thing TP ever did was steal an MVP from Bonds. TP has not been able to solve hitting issues young players have had, i.e. Kelly Johnson, Jeff Francouer, etc. Outside the organization is the only way. Gardenhire would have won 100 games this year with this team, I say get his go-to-guy: Ullger.

tripp

September 21st, 2009
2:58 pm

What is Biff Pocaroba doing these days? Or Andres Thomas…. he would be a good hire.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
2:58 pm

Gardenhire has a small-budget team in the playoff hunt every year — and often in the playoffs. He’s terrific.

Inya

September 21st, 2009
3:00 pm

Brad Mills by a mile. He’s not only respected and admired by his peers and the players, he doesn’t let sentamentality get in the way of doing what’s right and what’s needed. (Bobby Cox’s biggest weakness). We need new blood from other organizations to instill some urgency and fire in this team. I’m tired of people saying the Braves act “professional”. That’s called apathy, and it’s infecting some of the older Braves right now. Let’s get it done JS & FW!

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:00 pm

Torre had rejected the Yankees’ offer of an extension and was no longer under contract when he took the Dodger job.

pstlparks

September 21st, 2009
3:02 pm

If that is all that’s out there we may as well keep Cox and be a “wait til next year” team a few more years.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:03 pm

One other thing: I’m always perplexed when I suggest successors for Bobby Cox, and some of the same folks who want Cox out come up with names like Gonzalez and Yost and Chipper and Maddux. Are you saying you like the Braves’ way of doing business but you just don’t like Cox? Otherwise, why not look outside the ol’ org?

Just asking, mind you.

Brian

September 21st, 2009
3:04 pm

Here’s the problem, Mark. Ron Gardenhire is indeed one of the best managers in baseball. But he has only won one playoff series in his career. Postseason record? 5-15. Isn’t that what the blog denizens complain about now?

Obviously, Gardenhire is not going to be a candidate. My point is that so many people here are saying he is such a great manager. Well, what do we have right now if Gardenhire and his 5-15 postseason record is great?

Arthur House

September 21st, 2009
3:06 pm

Enter your comments here Ned Yost was firedbecause the management panicked. Look at the Brewers this year. Being fired is not a reason not to hire someone. If it was most managers would never get a second chance.

Braves73

September 21st, 2009
3:06 pm

Mark, I think the five you mentioned are strong candidates but you neglected to include Fredi Gonzalez. He is the best possible replacement for this type of baseball team. He is a former Braves manager, he knows the farm system, he absolutely makes the most of his talent and maximizes his players abilities.

J-man

September 21st, 2009
3:12 pm

I stand by what I said earlier about if Cox should retire. Getting anyone from the current coaching staff to replace him would be a disaster.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:12 pm

The Marlins might allow Fredi Gonzalez to come to the Braves — if they got Tommy Hanson in return.

tmac

September 21st, 2009
3:14 pm

Classic,
In this world of lack of appreciation from employer to employee, I can’t tell you how many times people look outside an arganization to fill a prestigious position.
Good Job Mark. By promoting other teams lieutenant’s, you are encouraging the Braves organization to covet thy neighbor’s property.

Now, I don’t know if Terry Pendleton is the right person for the job or not… but i’m sure there are people already in the Braves organization that could be the right person for the job.

How bout we start there?

N8

September 21st, 2009
3:14 pm

“Gardenhire has a small-budget team in the playoff hunt every year — and often in the playoffs. He’s terrific.” Mark Bradley

I live in Twins territory, and the players and fans LOVE Gardenhire. When Tom Kelly was not getting along with younger players and was a little gruff, Gardenhire was the “bridge” between those players and Kelly.

Management saw how much the players not only liked him, but respected his leadership and decisions, that he was an obvious choice. Tom Kelly couldn’t “relate” to the younger players (sound familiar? IE: Bobby and Yunel), and Gardenhire could.

I think the fact that a player (Francoeur) that was once considered the future of the team, and was an SI cover boy, went around TP for hitting advice, should be a clear enough reason as to NOT hire TP as the next manager.

Need to go outside of the organizaton, imo.

Brian

September 21st, 2009
3:15 pm

Well, J-man…I am about 95% sure that if Cox retires, the replacement will come in-house, so you might as well get prepared for it.

On the bright side, at least you’ll have a brand new manager to complain about! It’ll be exciting!

Tomas

September 21st, 2009
3:15 pm

I gotta think they’d give the job to TP, just because of respect. I also like Jose Oquendo and Dave Duncan. In fact I love Dave Duncan I just don’t know if he can be a manager. He has a fantastic ability as a pitching coach, would he have it as a manager? Who knows, but he sure knows when to bring in pitchers and manage pitch counts, which in reality is what managers are meant to do, as well as making the lineup card.

Jose Oquendo, managed the Puerto Rico team, which I think surpassed a lot of people’s expectations. He’s aggresive sending runners home, which I admire because it shows how he is not afraid to take risk and make tough choices.

El Bravo

September 21st, 2009
3:17 pm

TP would be the proverbial lightning rod so he probably would not be a wise hire under the existing Braves climate. At the first sign of trouble the already dwindling fan base woul be up in arms. If you are going to stay in-house Eddie Perez looks like the wise choice. Catchers usually make good coaches and he is very well liked inside and outside the Turner Field walls…

Joe

September 21st, 2009
3:17 pm

I wouldn’t take Pendleton for Braves manager, he seems too much like a p***y. He cried and let his feelings get hurt just because Francoeur went to Texas to work on his hitting. As a manager you have to have thick skin because as a manager you are the one who has to tell a player what is going on, good or bad.

Loveofthegame

September 21st, 2009
3:17 pm

LOL…….Mark…..That is about what they would want to give us Fredi

Ray Rackley

September 21st, 2009
3:17 pm

If Bobby steps down, Chipper Jones should retire as a player or be a player/ Manager. He’s the purest choice to manage the Atlanta Braves!

CraZyTRaDeMaN

September 21st, 2009
3:18 pm

I think Eddie Perez would be one of my top choses to replace Cox if you are going to go in-house.
1.Eddie Perez
2.Terry Pendelton
3.Dave Brundage

Matt

September 21st, 2009
3:19 pm

Ron Gardenhire is the BEST? Surely, you are joking!!

This is the same man who keeps playing Nick Punto for God’s sake. The player sooooo bad that the Mendoza line is a pipe dream for him.

This is the same manager whose use of Joe Nathan is absolutely mind boggling.

No, no, you must mean someone OTHER than Gardy.

JEB

September 21st, 2009
3:20 pm

MB
You state that you would like to see the Braves go outside the organization, just curious… why would you prefer that?

N8

September 21st, 2009
3:21 pm

Good point at 3:03 Mark. Totally agree. Can’t for the life of me think why people would want TP or Yost to replace Cox.

The only people that I can think of that would vote that way, would be people that don’t actually want Cox to be gone. They just want a similar succesor in line.

As for Fredi Gonzalez? While he was a Cox disciple, he obviously relates to a young team and somehow gets more out of them, than Cox has in recent years, and obviously is more personable than Yost ever was.

Ozzie Guillen was a Cox luitenant as well, and he couldn’t be further from what Cox is all about.

I’m just ready for change. As far as I’m concerned, McDowell can stay (way I see it, he’s done a fine job this year, if results and stats of the pitching staff speak any truth), along with Eddie Perez and Glen Hubbard. But Cox and TP have to go.

Perhaps, a guy like Eddie Perez would make a good bench coach?

Joe

September 21st, 2009
3:21 pm

Terry Pendleton would be a great choice.

JEB

September 21st, 2009
3:22 pm

Also, why not Snitker? Again, just curious…

Mark Roberts

September 21st, 2009
3:24 pm

Where is Ned Yost on this list? He’s a more viable candidate than anyone on the list.

Sting 'em Buzz

September 21st, 2009
3:24 pm

Don’t get me wrong, I liked TP as a player, but if he is the manager, I will have to think long and hard in order to not take a year off from following the team.

Money

September 21st, 2009
3:24 pm

Just as long as we don’t let Bobby have any say in who takes his place…I really don’t want to see a team managed by Greg Norton…

Tomas

September 21st, 2009
3:25 pm

What about Chino Cadahia

Joe

September 21st, 2009
3:26 pm

TP would not be the right choice for the job.

crd

September 21st, 2009
3:26 pm

Enter your comments here Fredi Gonzalez look at what he’s done with the Marlins

Good Grief

September 21st, 2009
3:26 pm

I’d like to Ned Yost or Terry Pendleton. Just because they sat under Bobby it doesn’t mean they’ll think like Bobby, Mark. We’ve actually seen a Ned Yost team last year duke it out and play some good baseball. I think they’re completely different thinkers, even if they were under Bobby for a certain amount of time.

JEB

September 21st, 2009
3:28 pm

TP or Eddie Perez would be my “in house” guys.

One thing about TP – you always see him up at the post watching the game. He is into it as much as BC is, he never sits down.
Chino, on the other hand, takes the “Bench Coach” title very seriouly!

Joe

September 21st, 2009
3:28 pm

That would be nice if Maddux did come back and at least be the Braves pitching coach. He said that he would start helping the Braves.

Kelly Johnson Fan Club

September 21st, 2009
3:32 pm

Eddie Perez is my choice to replace BC.

Eddie Haas

September 21st, 2009
3:32 pm

Call me. I’m still a player’s coach.

General Sherman

September 21st, 2009
3:33 pm

Are you fricking crazy,Terry Pendleton.He could not manage a little league team!

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
3:34 pm

Mark, by the time Bobby decides to retire, I think Heyward is going to be considered a candidate to replace him.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:35 pm

I wouldn’t hire Ned Yost. I don’t think the Braves will, either.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:36 pm

Good one, Jeffrey.

I do think Cox is thinking about stepping aside, though.

Joe Simpson the Great

September 21st, 2009
3:37 pm

Maybe the Braves could get Albert Pujols to be a player manager. That would help the team.

Sammy Kershaw

September 21st, 2009
3:37 pm

The answer is simple and he is in the organization and under contract. Tommy Hanson for player manager. Bam, there you go.

dozer

September 21st, 2009
3:38 pm

Give us Barabbas…….

Dawgmess

September 21st, 2009
3:38 pm

Chipper????? Good grief, don’t you want a manager with some kind of work ethic? He’d strain an oblique just filling out the line-up card!

Justinstud

September 21st, 2009
3:39 pm

I don’t believe Gonzalez could be pried from Florida just yet, but by the time Cox is ready to go, he might be wooed north. Aside from Gonzalez, I too am shocked that more Braves fans have not mentioned Ned Yost as the answer. He is a student of Bobby Cox, was around during the run, and certainly knows what he is doing.

He certainly had the Brewers, a mid-market team in terms of payroll, playing very good baseball. But I think that no matter how good the manager, if the fundamentals are not executed by whoever is run out there, the result will not be pretty. On average, the manager can only be blamed/credited with the outcome of 7-10 games per year.

TOMMY HANSON’s GEM AGAINST HOUSTON WAS ONE OF THOSE. That was awful to see that poor kid work his nuts off and get no decision. But that can hardly be the downfall of the season.

jndn

September 21st, 2009
3:41 pm

What about Ned Yost?

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:41 pm

Mark Lemke told me last week that Chipper gets to the ballpark almost as early as Cox does (11 a.m. for a night game, say). He did that even as a rookie, the Lemmer said.

GaCracker

September 21st, 2009
3:41 pm

You want SABREmetrics – get the guru himself – Bill James!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sonny Clusters

September 21st, 2009
3:41 pm

We was thinking the next manager should have a championship already. Having a championship is a lot better than wanting one. A manager that has already won a championship knows how to do it again (with the possible exception of Bobby Cox). We was never a championship manager but Coach was and he could do it again. As far as saying, “C’mon kid” when they are batting and “Easy” when they are running to first – Coach can do it. Lefty/lefty and righty/righty he can handle, too. Nose picking is not something we’ve seen Coach do but for the right money he could probably dig into his nostrils like Bobby. TP is pretty close already but somebody who’s coached a champion can do it again. Then, if people want to see something different maybe the Braves need to go outside for the next manager. How about Don Sutton? He seems pretty smart and we’ve never seen him nose picking. Smart people hardly ever nose pick.

Nittany Lion

September 21st, 2009
3:43 pm

What about Lou Pinella? He is guy who would light a fire under guys and wouldn’t be afraid to bat Chipper down in the line up if he is struggling to see better pitches.

tvsportscaster

September 21st, 2009
3:44 pm

Two thoughts, no way in hell I give the job to Terry Pendleton. He’s been a terrible hitting coach, look no further than two guys, Andruw Jones and Jeff Francoeur having to turn to someone outside of the organization to help, secondly my choice for manager would be D-Backs bench coach Kirk Gibson. He is a guy that has some fire and I think that is exactly what the Braves need. I would love for Gibson to get the job no managerial experience or not.

David

September 21st, 2009
3:45 pm

I don’t think the fact that TP isn’t the best hitting instructor rules out being a good manager. If that is the case hire the best pitching coach. It doesn’t always transcend into managing. Game management, player relations, using the pen effectively, transitioning young players into the major league atmosphere are reasons Cox has been effective. Pendelton has stuck by this organization when he could have gone elsewhere. He is my pick but here is a wild card- Don Mattingly.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:45 pm

Well, Sonny, here’s the list of championship managers still active: La Russa, Piniella, Cox, Torre, Leyland, Scioscia, Francona, Guillen, Manuel.

Two who aren’t currently managing: Bob Brenly and Jack McKeon.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:46 pm

Isn’t Bill James working for the Red Sox?

phoenix falcon

September 21st, 2009
3:47 pm

ummm, call me crazy, but there is just one issue with this article………..BOBBY COX IS STILL THE MANAGER, HE WILL BE THE MANAGER UNTIL HE DROPS DEAD, OR THEY FIRE HIM, AND I DON’T SEE THEM FIRING HIM ANYTIME SOON.

does Mike Smith coach baseball too???

and i would not want anybody on that list, what has anyone of them won?

just face it, we are stuck with cox.

Ed

September 21st, 2009
3:47 pm

It’s going to be Brian Snitker when Bobby steps down. He’s got experience managing the young guys as they came up through the system. He’s the 3rd base coach, just like Yost & Gonzales who went on to managerial gigs.

Joe Simpson the Great

September 21st, 2009
3:47 pm

Maybe the Braves could get those Tom Emanski tapes to manage the team. I bet Fred McGriff would endorse that move.

Ryan

September 21st, 2009
3:47 pm

Anybody but TP!

Mike

September 21st, 2009
3:48 pm

Manny Acta, Manny Acta, Manny Acta. And promote Botelho and Dismuke from Gwinnett to be the pitching coach and hitting coach respectively.

Adam

September 21st, 2009
3:48 pm

What about Bobby Valentine?

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:48 pm

What about Tom Emanski himself? With Crime Dog as hitting coach?

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:49 pm

I say it again: Bobby Valentine has never finished first with a team in the Western hemisphere.

Michael Irvin

September 21st, 2009
3:50 pm

How about Dr. Lou Holtz, sir?

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:51 pm

If it took Dr. Lou off ESPN, that’d be worth it.

Shamus Thacker

September 21st, 2009
3:52 pm

If I were Frank Wren I’d go to the Jackson Diagnostic and Classification Center. I’d find the biggest, toughest, scariest, smelliest, inmate, in the whole joint. I’d allow him to motivate by patrolling the bench with a shank.

Greg (Ed) Norton, our shi__iest player, would suddenly draw comparisons to Rod Carew.

FEAR, the greatest motivator of them all!

WORLD SERIES HERE WE COME!!

jim

September 21st, 2009
3:52 pm

Gardenhire gets credit for having a small-market team competetive each year, but as much credit should go to the GM and scouting department that has surrounded him with the likes of Johan Santana, Joe Mauer, Justin Morneau, Hunter, Nathan, and several other lesser known players like Cuddyer who are pretty good complementary players. The AL Central is usually the least competetive division in the AL which also doesn’t hurt.

Head on straight

September 21st, 2009
3:53 pm

There is no reason for Cox to retire this year. But if he does the best choice is Ned Yost. He turned around a dreadful Brewers franchise (I still can’t believe they fired him in the middle of the wild card chase) and he’s supposedly a Cox clone. Writing his name multiple times in all-caps should help get my point across.

NED YOST NED YOST NED YOST NED YOST NED YOST NED YOST NED YOST NED YOST NED YOST NED YOST NED YOST NED YOST NED YOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:54 pm

You know, Shamus, there really aren’t many tough-guy managers nowadays. I don’t even think Sweet Lou qualifies.

Joe Simpson the Great

September 21st, 2009
3:54 pm

With the Crime Dog as hitting coach everyone on the team would have that one handed helicopter follow through and a cool mustache.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:55 pm

Not to mention a series of fire outbreaks in the press box.

cdog

September 21st, 2009
3:56 pm

MARK, TERRY PENDELTON WOULD BE IDEAL FOR THE JOB. HE HAS PLAYED IN TWO WINNING ORGANIZATION IN ST.LOUIS UNDER HERTZOF AND THE BRAVES UNDER COX. HE SHOULD HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING FROM THE TWO GREAT MANAGERS PLUS WITH HIS TALENT AND ABILITIES, HE WOULD BE THE PERFECT FIT. HE KNOWS THE PLAYERS AND THE ORGANIZATION.

Kurdt Kobain

September 21st, 2009
3:56 pm

Follow the Falcons model and raid the stable and successful Boston club. Mills or Ullger would be great.

curtis jones

September 21st, 2009
3:57 pm

To improve on our current Cox funk, I would

A) Look for anyone with a pulse, and

B) Go outside the Braves organization

Sonny Clusters

September 21st, 2009
3:58 pm

How about some ex-Braves players? David Justice. Greg Olson. Wicky. Reitsma. Kolb. Reardon. Senor Smoke.

Chino Cadahia . . .

cdog

September 21st, 2009
3:58 pm

IF PENDELTON IS HIRED, I HOPE HE WOULD BRING BACK LEO MAZONNE AS HIS PITCHING COACH. THE BRAVES SUFFERED WHEN HE LEFT.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
3:59 pm

Cdog, I don’t think Pendleton should be ruled out of anything just because Francoeur struggled. TP’s a fine baseball man. A fine man, for that matter.

Ramblin Wrecker

September 21st, 2009
4:00 pm

Did you get extra points for obscurity? What about current managers or former managers? Don’t you think Freddi Gonzalez would be an excellent choice? I would think they would at least interview him (if he’s interested, and why wouldn’t he be). How about Ned Yost? He got the Brewers back to respectable, and they dumped him for some inexplicable reason. Add in Eddie Perez and that’s my foursome for interviews.

Kurdt Kobain

September 21st, 2009
4:00 pm

Yeah, the Braves pitching has been awful this year without Leo…

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
4:01 pm

Speaking of Greg Olson … last time I saw him was on a shuttle bus from the Metrodome to the press hotel at the Final Four in Minneapolis in 2001. Seems Olson was in charge of shuttle buses then. (He’s from Minn., as you know.)

Great guy. Don’t know if he’s a big-league manager, but he’s a great guy.

CraZyTRaDeMaN

September 21st, 2009
4:01 pm

Chipper has said he has no desire to be a manager!!! The only thing he has said is he would like to be a hitting coach after he retired from playing.

Woodstock

September 21st, 2009
4:01 pm

MB,

How about Alan Trammell? Bench coach for the Cubs who may or may not get the nod if Lou steps down. Talk of Sandberg being elevated to the Cubs. Anyway, Trammell managed basically a Triple A team when he had the Tigers. Leyland gives him a lot of credit of restoring professionalism to the organization before he inherited the team and took them to the WS.

cdog

September 21st, 2009
4:01 pm

IF PENDELTON IS HIRED, I HOPE HE WOULD BRING BACK LEO MAZONNE AS HIS PITCHING COACH. THE BRAVES SUFFERED WHEN HE LEFT.THE PITCHING STAFF NEED TO BE UPGRADED. LEO KNOWS PITCHING AND WOULD INSTANTLY TRANSFOM THE STAFF INTO DOMINANCE ONCE AGAIN.

mudcat

September 21st, 2009
4:01 pm

Good list. I like the idea of getting some new blood into the organization. Brad Mills would be my choice. He makes decisions based on performance, not on the number of decades you’ve been playing ball. The Red sox will do everything they can to retain him. They’re not dummies. They know they have a winner there. Jose Oquendo is a good choice, bit of a temper, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing. I still think as long as Bobby can wobble to home plate to argue with an umpire he’s going to want to manage. This is a necessary change if the Braves are to succeed, but I just don’t think the Braves management have the gonads to act. Hope I’m wrong. Believe me, you don’t get better with age when you get into you’re mid-60’s.

Shamus Thacker

September 21st, 2009
4:01 pm

Sweet Lou would soil his drawers if he met a REAL tough guy…

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
4:02 pm

Fredi Gonzalez is under contract with the Fish. That’s why he’s not on the list.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
4:03 pm

Trammell is a good name. Kirk Gibson is also a good name.

Lee

September 21st, 2009
4:04 pm

Ned Yost. He was Bobby’s guy until his success in Milwaukee. Or get Fredi from the Marlins. These are both proven managers…with Braves ties.

Lt. George Zipp's Widow

September 21st, 2009
4:05 pm

Get Ted Striker. He’s bound to not fail at something…eventually.

Tomas

September 21st, 2009
4:07 pm

Bobby Valentine is a good choice. He did get the Mets to the playoff’s twice, and as I understand excelled in Japan. Why not, he is a funny dude thats for sure. I remember once he was thrown out of the game, and came incognito as a security guard.

MightyQuinn

September 21st, 2009
4:07 pm

I remember people screaming for Joe Torre’s head in the ATL after the ‘84 season, I believe, because Torre couldn’t “take us to the next level.” (All he did was finish first, second and second in three years) About the same time people were screaming for Leeman Bennett’s head because he couldn’t “take us to the next level.” Another time everyone was screaming for Lenny Wilkens’ head because…well you get the picture. What do these have in common? The coaches that followed them all took “take us to the next level” to mean the next level DOWN!!! Actually to the basement, where all three teams went for 5-10 years after the firings. So while BC has been driving me crazy this year, I gotta remember the last 3 times we kicked out a manager/coach with a winning record: We STUNK for a LONG time.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
4:07 pm

Ned Yost has a career losing record as a big-league MGR and got fired with 12 games left in a season in which his team made the playoffs. Why would you want him? Just because he coached here?

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
4:08 pm

If you think Valentine is a funny guy, you’ve never been around him.

Sonny Clusters

September 21st, 2009
4:08 pm

Catchers are reputed to make really good managers. Greg Olson was very limber. He could lie on his back and bend his legs back and touch his toes to the ground. A good manager should be able to do that. Bobby lost that awhile back. Olson was hanging around baseball. That’s how the Braves got Spooneyburger. There’s another candidate. Sideburns of a manager.

Joe Simpson the Great

September 21st, 2009
4:09 pm

Looks like Cecil Cooper is now available. Houston just fired him.

CraZyTRaDeMaN

September 21st, 2009
4:09 pm

TIM TEBOW…..TIM TEBOW…….TIM TEBOW….. He can do anything he has been touched by god to be perfect in every way possible…….

( I would love it if one of his team mates decked him once he got in their face. what a @#$@!!!!!)

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
4:09 pm

And I will admit, Quinn, that firing Torre for Eddie Haas remains the worst single move in Atlanta sports. You do have to be careful.

Shamus Thacker

September 21st, 2009
4:09 pm

“Sabermetrics” is close enough to “shankmetrics” for me!

Mills sounds like the guy!

Woodstock

September 21st, 2009
4:10 pm

Ted Turner comes to mind. A game worth of experience and fountain of knowledge when it comes to the game of baseball.

brian elliott

September 21st, 2009
4:10 pm

Great topic,
Thanks Mark for bringing it up. I think the Braves need a younger manager but am not sure who would be a good fit. Love Gardenhire, but seems impossible to bring him here. But just the fact that we are talking about it gives me hope for change. Look at the Falcons with their coach, awsome! I love Duncan as a pitching coach but am not sure he would do well as a mamager. Love Ron Darling here in NY, has a good perspective on the game but not sure if its too much Mets for the Bravos fans..Ha… I am excited about next year thought and like many others am hoping bobby steps down asap and let’s us get on with the program for next year..

Shamus Thacker

September 21st, 2009
4:10 pm

Eddie Haas was a mental case…

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
4:10 pm

Speaking of former Astros managers … what about Phil Garner?

CraZyTRaDeMaN

September 21st, 2009
4:11 pm

LARRY BOWA he would be great to hate!!!!!

Joe Simpson the Great

September 21st, 2009
4:13 pm

Or… Jimmy Williams

rya

September 21st, 2009
4:13 pm

don mattingly!

Vagabondking

September 21st, 2009
4:13 pm

Simple NED YOST!

BravesfaninWis

September 21st, 2009
4:13 pm

I wouldn’t want TP as the manager simply for the fact that their is a outside chance that he keeps the current coaching staff intact.. No thanks, I’ll pass on that one..

I wouldn’t mind Ned Yost as the next Braves skipper one bit.. Just because he learned under Bobby Cox doesn’t mean he will manage the same way as Bobby Cox.. He also turned around a not so good Brewers team..

Give me Yost as the manager
Fred McGriff as the hitting coach
Leo Mazzone as the pitching coach

Then I will be more excited for next season..

Barnesy

September 21st, 2009
4:15 pm

The Buckaroo Martinez covets this position. You don’t have to win so I’d say he’s qualified.

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
4:17 pm

But Buck Martinez is so good on his Sirius XM show.

CraZyTRaDeMaN

September 21st, 2009
4:17 pm

WILLIE MARTINEZ he has to be good at something!!!

Joe Simpson the Great

September 21st, 2009
4:18 pm

Does Glenn Hubbard get any consideration?

Ted Striker

September 21st, 2009
4:18 pm

Zip’s Widow @4:05 p.m.

I managed the base team when I was in the Air Force but we only had 9 players. The Braves have 25. That’s an entirely different kind of managing — all together.

Shamus Thacker

September 21st, 2009
4:19 pm

I’d prefer Karen Valentine to Bobby.

Never heard of her having any choking problems….

Jackets2009

September 21st, 2009
4:19 pm

It is of course a different sport but it will be fun to watch how the current NFL fad (partly to save money) of hiring young assistants copied from Tomlin’s success with the Steelers plays out.
Jason Whitlock with the KC Star takes a critical and humorous look at the Chiefs’ new head coach. “The Raiders basically played dead and won” is his best quip.

Brian

September 21st, 2009
4:20 pm

What about Eddie Perez? I’ve always thought he’d make a GREAT manager and we should be giving him a look.

"Chef" Tim Dix

September 21st, 2009
4:20 pm

BTW Benedict has managerial experience at the show, albeit it one game.

Whom ever they hire, they should fire immediately and hire again, longterm.

You can’t follow a legend.

Panties in a wad

September 21st, 2009
4:22 pm

Is Chuck Tanner still alive?

Bob Horner had a sweet compact swing

September 21st, 2009
4:22 pm

I voted for TP….without hesitation…he’s a baseball man and I think he would be a great hire…that said..I think Cox returns next year..

Joe Simpson the Great

September 21st, 2009
4:22 pm

Former career backup catchers seem to make the best managers. I’ll bet one day Paul Bako will be a manager.

submariner

September 21st, 2009
4:22 pm

If we’re going out on a limb…..how ’bout Bobby Valentine?

Dawg Fan in Grayson

September 21st, 2009
4:23 pm

If the Braves don’t hire TP when Cox leaves they must hire an experienced mgr. if available, but not retread. I have heard rumors that LaRussa may be looking to manage somewhere in the near future. He may have interest in the Braves.

For the record while TP has been criticized by many for the Braves woeful offense the last couple of years I truly believe he would be a fine mgr. You would probably see a more aggressive team and not a team waiting for the 3-run HR all the time.

Tomas

September 21st, 2009
4:23 pm

I don’t actually know for sure if Valentine is funny, but that game he gets ejected, and comes back to the clubhouse a security guard cracks me up. Here’s a video of him giving the explanation of what happened that day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jowwMKG5kYc

DRT

September 21st, 2009
4:24 pm

Do not give it to TP. When our hitters are having trouble they always go an ask Chipper or BMac’s dad. If the players do not get help from their own pitching coach, that should say something about him..

toddh

September 21st, 2009
4:24 pm

I’m going to join just a few others in asking about Brian Snitker. I don’t know much about his coaching style other than his experience in the Braves system. Based on what little I can observe, he would seem to be the best candidate in my mind. Mark, do you have any insight on him?

CraZyTRaDeMaN

September 21st, 2009
4:25 pm

MARK BRADLEY would be a good choice!! You know everyone is good at something and Mark has certainly not found his something yet!!!
J/K Mark

NORRIS

September 21st, 2009
4:25 pm

What makes anyone think that TP would be a good manager??? The guy has not proved himself as a good hitting coach. He would have been fired anywhere else. The only reason he held his job is because of nostalgia. TP had a career avg of around 270 and only had two good seasons. I dont understand why people even think he was all that as a hitter.
I dont know who the answer is. But I do not believe that TP is the answer.

NC Braves Fan

September 21st, 2009
4:25 pm

Anybody who is intelligent, from outside the organization and will agree to calling Mark B. “Brad” (we can’t be shaking things up too much, after all) is good to go in my book.

submariner

September 21st, 2009
4:26 pm

Joe Maddon…he gets out of the American League East, which will be bottlenecked up by the Yankees and Red Sox until the end of time.

Shamus Thacker

September 21st, 2009
4:26 pm

submariner: If we’re going out on a limb…..how ’bout Bobby Valentine?”"

Going out on a limb? How bout walking the plank?

jim

September 21st, 2009
4:27 pm

Why does anybody want to replace McDowell with Leo or anyone else? What’s not to like about the job he has done this year? A career best year for Vasquez, noticeable improvement in KK, Hanson, and Medlen from the time they arrived. Does he get some credit for the success JJ has had these past 2 years. Granted he did not turn Blaine Boyer into Mariano Rivera, but then Duncan couldn’t do much with Boyer either.

Dean

September 21st, 2009
4:27 pm

1.) I hope Bobby goes when Bobby wants to go.
2.) Didn’t Pendleton take himself out of a game one year–while he was on the field—because he disagreed with something Bobby didn’t do (Throw at a batter.)? Apparently, it isn’t a big issue. But when it happened it sure seemed like it was.

Brannon

September 21st, 2009
4:28 pm

I don’t know about as manager, but I think Larry Wayne Jones, Sr. would be awesome as a hitting coach. I wouldn’t mind having him as manager either.

submariner

September 21st, 2009
4:28 pm

Shamus Thacker…..That’s what I’m saying.

misterwax

September 21st, 2009
4:28 pm

I would also recommend Greg Maddux, he knows how to win and all men who play the game repsect his knowledge and abilities…He would sell a lot more tickets…The fans love him.

Mr. A

September 21st, 2009
4:28 pm

Alright Mark…. you got me on the “taciturn” I have a bachelors degree and had to look that one up! Have you had any dealings with Mills? What type of personality would he bring to the team?
Ryne Sandberg really wants to manage …. is he ready and would he be a good fit? Thanks for this blog……. it makes me excited about the future of the braves.

Jackets2009

September 21st, 2009
4:29 pm

The problem with hiring a new guy is he may not be experienced enough to know good assistants. That is the big difference between Mora and Smith. Mora hired Grag Knapp because he knew him and was not confident enough to choose from a larg group the best guy.
Again it’s a different sport.
My point is Atlanta get to be the trainer of managers who learn here and then do better elsewhere.
I’m tired of that.

The Dude

September 21st, 2009
4:30 pm

I know he is under contract (for how long I don’t know), but I would look at Joe Maddon. He can obviously work with young talent which is the direction the Braves are slowly heading. I am quite sure that the Braves could pay him more than Tampa.

toddh

September 21st, 2009
4:30 pm

oh, and for the record, I still believe Bobby Cox should stay manager as long as he wants. I don’t understand how people can turn against a manager who led his team to 14 straight playoff appearances in a row. Players like playing for him, he has a proven winning record, what more can you people want. Of course you can nitpick certain moves but hindsight is always 20/20. He’s a baseball lifer and I’m pretty sure knows more about the game than anyone commenting on here.

chuck allison

September 21st, 2009
4:30 pm

I would never make Terry Pendleton manager. In fact, I wish that they would find another hitting coach and fire Terry Pendleton altogether. I remember his disruptive antics on the field and I don’t think that he has ever done any good with the Braves’ hitters. The Braves need a real hitting coach and TP is not the one.

Ramblin Wrecker

September 21st, 2009
4:31 pm

I guess I don’t get the “he’s under contract” statement about Freddi Gonzalez. Last time I checked having a job doesn’t preclude you from getting another job if he really wanted it. Freddi was an unproven manager when he was hired, I doubt he has some sort of Braves buyout clause (a la Urban Meyer and Notre Dame). If Freddi was interested, he would be considered and given an interview. I mean, the guys on your list are “under contract” with the clubs they work for. That’s a dumb statement.

As for Ned Yost, last time I checked Milwaukee was a bottom dweller when he got there and were more relevant when he left. I’m not worried about him getting let go with 12 games left in the season. Sometimes the people you work for don’t know what they’re doing. Leo Mazzone will tell you all about Baltimore. He was fired from them. Does that mean he is not worth hiring as a pitching coach now?

The Dude

September 21st, 2009
4:31 pm

Who is Mike Scoscia’s next in-charge? He is a good manager.

CraZyTRaDeMaN

September 21st, 2009
4:34 pm

misterwax……. NO WAY GREG WOULD EVER MANAGE. It would cut into his GOLF time.

timthebrave

September 21st, 2009
4:34 pm

What about Greg Norton? There is no reason to think he could get the job done but that hasn’t stopped him in the past

Alan

September 21st, 2009
4:37 pm

Not Terry P., its just more of the same, look at the offensive production and ask yourself if this is what you want to see again. I wonder if we really need a manager that the players are all familiar with, here again is this really what you want to see.

The Braves need new blood that will come in and make a statement as to what he expects (A WINNING ATTITUDE), not the same old thing-good players, well like management and no offense.

TP bashers are stupid

September 21st, 2009
4:37 pm

All you Pendleton bashers take a good look at the roster.
With at least nine guys hitting over .270 I would think TP
has to get some credit. MLB hitting coaches are probably the
most overly criticized coaches in all of sports.
Now I will admit that TP isn’t my first choice but I would have
no problem with him getting the job. If all you TP bashers
think a hitting coaches success is an indicator of a good
MLB manager then why are you all promoting the hiring
of the Texas Rangers hitting coach?

varoadrunner

September 21st, 2009
4:38 pm

I do not have the information or smarts to pick Bobby Cox’s successor – But apparently I am smarter than almost 46% of the responders to the poll of Should Bobby Cox return as the Braves Manager?

FORTY-SIX PERCENT SAID YES!!! OMG – I am beginning to feel brilliant. ( I voted NO) It’s easy to say Mr Wren, try it – NO!

Jackets2009

September 21st, 2009
4:38 pm

One of my arguments with the “fire Bobby” crowd is who will you get that is better.
It will be Frack Wren’s biggest decidion as GM when the time comes.
I can remember when we got rid of Torre and the clown who followed him.
Most probably wanted Torre gone too.

Lefty

September 21st, 2009
4:38 pm

Word out of Milwaukee is that Yost was a pretty bad manager and many of his players hated playing for him. What’s Don Baylor up to these days? I always thought he got the shaft in Colorado.

Tomas

September 21st, 2009
4:39 pm

Phil Garner why not. Why was he fired?

Phil of Playaz Ball

September 21st, 2009
4:39 pm

I think managing a baseball team is a bit overrated as far as any “skill” required – it’s more about being a team leader than it is x’s and o’s.

Therefore I would dismiss any opinions I have about TP as a hitting instructor. He’d probably be a much better manager.

Ramblin Wrecker

September 21st, 2009
4:39 pm

As for Ned Yost’s record, it is misleading to simply say he had a sub .500 record as a manager, because he was 166-146 in his final two seasons (including an 83-67 record when he was fired with 12 games left) showing a trend of improvement from the last place finishes that the Brewers had been posting. What kind of moron fires a manager who is within reach of winning 90 games? All he needed was to go 7-5 in those games to reach 90. But you’re right, he was under .500 in his tenure there and was fired with 12 games to go, so that’s all that matters. Did you sleep thru journalism school?

Kenneth

September 21st, 2009
4:40 pm

How about Rafael Ramirez or Pascual Perez?

varoadrunner

September 21st, 2009
4:41 pm

Excellent points Ramblin – I just wonder if yost is too nice. This team needs a KICK.

Firetheoldfool

September 21st, 2009
4:42 pm

Anything or anybody but Bobby Cox. An old mop and a bag of balls would be better.

tralfaz

September 21st, 2009
4:43 pm

the only good thing about elevating Pendleton would be that we could then finally get a decent hitting coach

Bob Horner had a sweet compact swing

September 21st, 2009
4:43 pm

Shamus…..you must remember the 80’s when Glen Hubbard could turn the double play with the best of em..he had no fear..I also thought about him as the next Mgr…but I think now a days he’s happy being the first base coach and drinking hotel beer on road trips..(sitting next to Bobby of course…..) but I’m often wrong….BTW…your prison post earlier get my vote for most hilariuos of the day….good stuff….

NC Braves Fan

September 21st, 2009
4:43 pm

“What kind of moron fires a manager who is within reach of winning 90 games?”

A moron who sees that the manager is not very good with people and/or has lost his clubhouse (for instance). That’s who.

GoCanes

September 21st, 2009
4:43 pm

Somebody needs to take a look at Bobby Valentine. We need someone who can manufacture runs, knows how to play small ball, and utilize this pitching staff we have. Just because we have a closer does not mean you have to give him the ball when your starter is still under 100 pitches for the night. The game has gone past Cox.

Firetheoldfool

September 21st, 2009
4:45 pm

Yeah. Greg Norton. That’s the ticket. He is apparently a fixture on the team and anything would be better than him trying to hit a baseball.

Alan

September 21st, 2009
4:46 pm

We don’t need someone who is loved, thats what we have had for the past years and where has it gotten us. WE NEED A LEADER, A MANAGER AND SOMEONE WITH A NEW OUTLOOK ON WHERE THE BRAVES NEED TO GO FROM HERE.

I for one am tired of winning baseball that doesn’t equate to a sucessful season, winning means one thing, BRING HOME THE BACON. !!!!

William

September 21st, 2009
4:46 pm

Enter your comments here

Ray Knight is my choice. He’s a leader, motivator and excellent student of the game.

Kenneth

September 21st, 2009
4:47 pm

want a former pitcher?: Pascual Perez

GregNorton

September 21st, 2009
4:55 pm

Erin Andrews. She’s shown she has what it takes.

ugadawg

September 21st, 2009
4:58 pm

I have always like the way the Cards ran things to steal a coach from them seems to be a step in the right direction. Jose would be my 1st choice of your list. Ullger would be 2nd as the Twins always seem to fight and claw the entire season to over achieve. TP would be my absolute last choice. He has proven nothing at his present position. Chipper and Mac consult their dads when in a slump. Frenchy went to Rudy, and AJ excepted a minor league deal from the Rangers to work with Rudy over a deal with the Braves.

Mitch C

September 21st, 2009
4:59 pm

I think that if Bobby leaves,the choice to manage the Braves should be between only two people. Terry Pendelton, and Eddie Perez.

Here’s my thinking in saying such: Bobby has been here for twenty years. It might well serve as an easier transition to have someone who coached under him, and who has some of the same thought process as him. Two, this has been done before when successful managers/coaches. left orginizations. It happened in New York in 1990 when Davey Johnson was fired by the Mets, and they brought in his long time coach, Bud Harrelson, and it also happened with the New York Knicks, where Jeff Van Gundy was brought in to replace Pat Riley. Granted, Van Gundy did better for the Knicks then Harrelson did for the Mets, but I just think that after such a long tenure, it would be easiest to stay inside the orginization, for now.

All I'm Saying Is...

September 21st, 2009
5:00 pm

If you want to go outside the organization and change the culture and tone in the clubhouse, then you should hire Larry Bowa. He flamed out in Philly but should have learned from it particularly having worked under Torre.

I also think Willie Randolph would be a good choice. He has major league managerial experience in a market like NYC and knows the game.

Not sure why we need to take a chance on unproven managerial talent such as TP, Duncan and Oquendo but apparently they and the Minnesota and Boston guys are ‘hot’ names.

Whoever comes in better show Chipper some respect and not try to run him out of the game (which is what LaRussa did to Ozzie Smith).

LET’S GO BRAVES!

braves70

September 21st, 2009
5:01 pm

Another plus I suppose for Brad Mills is that he, Terry Francona, and Frank Wren were all teammates with the Memphis Chicks in the Montreal system.

I personally am for Pendleton. I believe that free of Bobby Cox, TP would show a lot more fire like his old boss, Whitey Herzog. We all remember TP chewing out Marvin Freeman for not retaliating and hitting someone on the other team after our guys got plunked. Give me that Terry Pendleton any day.

Mitch C

September 21st, 2009
5:02 pm

A correction: Van Gundy was Riley’s long time assistant, and what I forgot was that he came in only when Don Nelson, the guy who replaced Riley, was fired. I’m one who believes that a long time assistant coach, or baseball coach, who served under a successful coach or manager, is the best fit, when a long time mamager leaves the team. The Yankees didnt do that when Giradi replaced Torre, and they struggled last year. Now, they are back on top.

I hope the Braves pick TP or Perez.

Joe Simpson the Great

September 21st, 2009
5:02 pm

Bobby has always had an American League attitude as a manager. He will play for a run early and then wait around on someone to hit a 3 run homer. He’s never been good at facilitating a running game. My biggest complaint about him is yanking starting pitchers out of the game while they are dominating. He does run a good club house and keeps the drama low.

bfred

September 21st, 2009
5:05 pm

So Mark, I’m reading a fair bit of barely disguised contempt for Yost. Anything we should know about? He does seem logical on the surface but his departure from Milwaukee and lack of subsequent work is perplexing at best.

dgroy

September 21st, 2009
5:05 pm

Since the Braves are no longer locally owned, who really gives a rip? Mark Bradley, why would you even approach this subject since Bobby Cox is still the manager and I haven’t heard anything that would lead me to believe that he is being replaced. You know, the AJC could really use some good sports writers that could produce some really good sports stories instead of resorting to these kind of articles. Wake up man!!!!!!!!

prattvillenolzfan

September 21st, 2009
5:06 pm

Mark

I feel that TP is the best person for the job….He gets the shaft alot of times, simply because Booby is the coach.

TP is a very hard-edge, in your face type person…That is why the Braves need him. There’s alot of negativity surrounding him, simply because he’s affiliated with Cox…

I like to compare TP to that of a middle-manager in a corporation. You can make all of the changes you want to those under you, DEMAND that employees do it your way, but if the employees disagree with you (Andrew, Franceour) and the upper-management backs them, NOT YOU (ala Booby), then you lose that respect…

I feel that Braves brass must have privately told TP to be patient, ride it out because your next.

I say that simply because with Franceour going to Texas’ hitting coach, Cox not knowing how to put together a line-up (YOU KNOW TP HAS TO HAVE A DIFFERING OPINION ABOUT WHERE TO HIT THESE PLAYERS), TP has to be frustrated with what’s going on……..

I know, alot of people will disagree w/me, that’s ok…I just feel that the players hitting approach is NOT TP’s fault, it’s the fault of the individual players, and Cox doesn’t have the balls to agree with TP…

Besides, look at the positive PR involved if the Braves hires an African-America manager!!!!!!!!!!!!!

However, if you want an outside coach, why not go with Mets 1b coach Luis Alicea…

I remember him from my FSU days, really hardnose player, greatly respected with the players and THIS IS IMPORTANT…is able to relate to the Latino players (ala Yunel)….

He is a real student of the game, stresses fundementals and is not afraid to get in your face if you screw up..He demands perfection.

KEITH MOON LIVES

September 21st, 2009
5:12 pm

Enter your comments hereHow does Terry Pendleton still have a job ???????????????

Tomas

September 21st, 2009
5:16 pm

How about Cooper, who was just fired. To be honest, I think the Astros are making a mistake, I don’t know how Cooper had such a great season last year, with such a horrible pitching. When you’re number 3 starter is Mike Hampton, it’s not you’re fault you’re losing.

will36206

September 21st, 2009
5:27 pm

Mark, your 3:45 PM comment omitted Cito Gaston. As I recall he did win consecutivechampionships with Toronto in 92 and 93. Rumors suggest he might be out if Toronto’s GM and VP leaver…

Joe

September 21st, 2009
5:27 pm

1. Terry Pendleton
2. Bobby Valentine
3. Dave Duncan
4. Ned Yost
5. Willie Randolph

Alan

September 21st, 2009
5:29 pm

The really bad part of all of this is that we will be saying the same thing this time next year-WHAT A WASTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOISESTATEBRONCO

September 21st, 2009
5:30 pm

Why is everyone wanting Bobby gone so quick? Yes, he is frustrating sometimes, but not every decision is going to always work out. He plays the numbers game and for years he has looked brilliant. You cannot tell me that for 14 years, he won the division based on talent alone. A lot of that winning was because the in-game decisions were made better than the opposition. Plus, players love him. Bobby should manage forever if he wants too!

Coach (2010 or Bust)

September 21st, 2009
5:40 pm

I’m perfectly comfortable with handing the reigns over to Terry Pendleton. Everybody seems to forget where his roots lie……think Whitey Herzog who was far ahead of his time. Besides, Pendleton has paid his dues within the Braves organization and it is very important that continuity be paid attention to.

Nathan

September 21st, 2009
5:45 pm

I’m not knocking your choice of Ron Gardenhire ad the best manager in baseball, but I am compelled to ask why you think he is?

Stan Williams

September 21st, 2009
5:46 pm

Glenn Hubbard should be considered.

obomaisaclown

September 21st, 2009
5:52 pm

why would anyone get to the ball game at 11 for a 7 pm game ?

cdog

September 21st, 2009
5:53 pm

MARK, APPARENTLY YOU DIDN’T READ MY COMMENTS. YOU HAVE ME MIXED UP WITH ANOTHER BLOGGER. I NEVER MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT PENDELTON AND FRANCOER. READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN. I THINK PENDELTON SHOULD BE THE NEXT BRAVES MANAGER LONG WITH LEO MAZZONE AS HIS PITCHING COACH.

mudcat

September 21st, 2009
5:53 pm

Brad Mills has 11 years experience managing in the minors, served as advance scout for the Cubs and has several years experience as a coach. He’s never lived off his name or reputation because most people don’t even know his name. He’s the assistant manager for the Red Sox because he got there through hard work and doing his due diligence. With his past success working with young players and his managerial experience he would probably be a great manager for a team that’s willing to give him a chance. I just hope it’s the Braves and not some other team.

tr

September 21st, 2009
5:54 pm

I’ll have to admit being prejudiced because I learned the game (and a love and passion for the game) from him during his days with the Birmingham A’s, but there’s also another great reason behind my logic in favor of Dave Duncan.

With the strength of the team in the next decade likely to be a strong, young pitching staff, Duncan is your guy. Not only does he have a great reputation for developing such talent, he has a history of turning mediocre pitching into good-to-great ones. And he surely would be great at the job of how to handle and use a staff to its greatest potential.

His championship (World Series) history as a player and coach is tops among anyone mentioned on this blog today as a realistic candidate to replace Bobby. The man knows baseball, the man knows what it takes to win, and the man has a strong history of sharing that knowledge in a rather productive manner.

I can honestly say that I believe he could turn in another 14-in-a-row (can’t see him retiring any time soon – too much passion for the game for that) with more than one World Series win!

Ken Stallings

September 21st, 2009
6:01 pm

When I first read this headline, I immediately started to look for the breaking story that Bobby Cox had stated he was retiring at the end of the season. I would have been shocked because Bobby’s never made a decision like that but in the off season. He’s too low-key to make such a statement when the season is still going on.

However, having read your headline on this column, I just immediately thought that’s what happened.

That’s because I never would have believed an AJC sports writer would have the audacity to call for his resignation and then proffer five replacement candidates!

What utter nonsense!

Shame on you Bradley, and shame on the AJC. I hope you enjoy covering the team from outside the locker room because if you thought you had issues with John Smoltz then you’ve seen nothing yet! You will likely be blackballed by the players on this one, and not because Bobby asked them, but because they love Cox so much they’re going to skin you alive!

In all seriousness, your editor should have pulled this column for no other reason than to protect your ability to interact with the team to get background for good columns and stories. If I were Carroll Rogers or Dave O’Brien, who actually cover the team, I’d be very angry with you for jeapardizing their contacts by association with the AJC and this column!

UGASlobberknocker

September 21st, 2009
6:01 pm

Is Eddie Haas available?

militarydawginDC

September 21st, 2009
6:01 pm

I’d like to bring back freddie Gonzalez from florida..

UGASlobberknocker

September 21st, 2009
6:06 pm

memo to Mr. Stallings (poster above)

What planet do you live on? This type of column runs about twice a week in every newspaper in the country. The talk is out there, the ajc is reporting on it. .

Does this guy seriously think that the Braves would all huddle together in the locker room and say”Hey that Bradley suggested a few coaches to replace Bobby..that dirty rat, we wont talk to him becuaase we love Bobby so much” That is so naive it is ridculous.

Pls Mr. Stallings, get out more!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bob Horner had a sweet compact swing

September 21st, 2009
6:09 pm

Ken Stallings……you may be right….interesting post…

61 year Braves Fan

September 21st, 2009
6:10 pm

Enter your comments here

My choice would be John Farrell pitching coach of the Boston Red Sox. An articulate, intelligent
baseball man.

hop

September 21st, 2009
6:11 pm

i would say the pickings are very slim looking at the names mention.
lets wait to see what the braves do with bobby before we go popping off about bobby’s replacement.

i personally think we need bobby more than ever with the young talent the braves have and especially with his patience,otherwise it could be a real downner if the braves pick the wrong person which is very possible.

All American Dude

September 21st, 2009
6:14 pm

How about Art Howe????

Bill

September 21st, 2009
6:16 pm

Mark, I agree with you. Braves need to go out of the system and get mgr with different views. We need change. My pick would be any of 5 except TP. He!! no to TP. Ist. Mills 2nd Jose Oquendo.

Please go out of system……no TP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joe

September 21st, 2009
6:18 pm

Ken Stallings I agree with your comment.

Blackbird

September 21st, 2009
6:20 pm

I’d hire ANYONE who could even tell you where the bullpen is, much less how to use it!

Virginia "old" fan

September 21st, 2009
6:21 pm

Enter your comments here
Pat Corrales (excuse my poor spelling)

T'ville Dawg

September 21st, 2009
6:22 pm

I used to think Pendelton was the guy, but apparently he can’t see the forest for the trees. Why else would high value players seek out their own hitting coaches. Saying that if he is a guy who would force the other team to make plays instead of always playing it safe I might be in favor of him. In the game of baseball if you force the other guys to make a perfect play then you sometimes cause errors. Cox for all his achievments he plays what Iv’e come to call a grandpa style of baserunning and taking bases.

DP

September 21st, 2009
6:25 pm

I don’t know how the typical fan, including me, is going to have an intelligent opinion on the best candidates to manage the Braves, particularly if you exclude current managers of other big league teams. If you aren’t in baseball where you can have a good idea of the intellect and temperament of various candidates, how can you assess who would make a good manager? I had no idea who Mike Smith was when the Falcons hired him and he has turned out great. I’ll leave the decision on who to replace Cox with (if he retires) with Schuerholz and Wren. I’m sure Schuerholz has known a lot of potential candidates for a decade or more and he can get plenty of behind the scenes feedback on anybody who might be considered.

FAN

September 21st, 2009
6:26 pm

Your list is entered as a joke, right? None of these can be seriously considered for the job. Would be better to just keep Bobby.

130on2

September 21st, 2009
6:30 pm

Sonny Clusters – you are a regional treasure. I love your postings.

NO MORE BOBBY

September 21st, 2009
6:31 pm

Terry Pendleton?

You rednecks deserve a losing team just for dumb you are. A guy like Mills bringing what he has learned from the Red Sox over what TP has been around in Atlanta? Idiots!!

I still think a guy like Willie Randolph would do well here. But TP? I would rather keep Bobby. (Yikes!) Why not just keep the original here if your going to replace him with a non experienced watered down version.

NO MORE BOBBY

September 21st, 2009
6:32 pm

One more time…. Terry Pendleton?

Really?

George Holman

September 21st, 2009
6:32 pm

You guys obviously have nothing to write about today. Cox is still the manager until HE says otherwise. By the way, who do you think will replace Obama?

Joe

September 21st, 2009
6:35 pm

lets not forget about Rocket Wheeler. The Braves minor league manager of the year in 2008. He is the best in the organization.

Biff Pocoroba

September 21st, 2009
6:41 pm

What about Danny Hall? He knows how to get a team to the post season and choke every year. He would be perfect for the Braves.

RidgeRunner

September 21st, 2009
6:42 pm

T.Pendleton as a hitting coach doesn’t appear to be able to help any hitter. I think he would also be a do nothing mgr. If you want a former BRAVE there is Ned Yost or even Freddie Gonzalez that would be good candidates.

yogi2

September 21st, 2009
6:43 pm

Hire Barry Bonds.He knows how to get results immediately

Sonny Clusters

September 21st, 2009
6:53 pm

Clusters never did any managing but we could do it if asked. We was taught right from left and high from low and we was always running hard when we was playing ball. Clusters have good hygiene and personal habits and not a single Clusters is a nose picker. Mostly, Clusters is a proud family. There is a sportswriter in the family but we don’t talk about him much and he is only married into the Clusters. When Clusters gather for a family reunion it is always very athletic and brainy. Athletic and brainy seems like what a manager needs. That, and some good pitching and hitting and solid up the middle. We was wondering if Mark might ask Bobby who he’d like to see replace him in the dugout.

VaBraveFan

September 21st, 2009
6:53 pm

The Braves need someone that has been involved with the Braves.
Ned Yost, Eddie Perez, Glen Hubbard, Pendleton , someone that the players will respond to and want to play for. I’d like to see Eddie Perez givin a shot. Alot of former catchers have made good managers.

Coach (2010 or Bust)

September 21st, 2009
6:56 pm

Stallings has been living under a rock. Mark Bradley wouldn’t be writing this unless he knows something we don’t…..

Marc in FL

September 21st, 2009
6:56 pm

Let’s hire Mike Maddux, you know, for no real reason, just because

TIWAS

September 21st, 2009
6:57 pm

Find a manager who can give you 10 to 15 years. Why choose an AL guy who plays with a DH and won’t understand hitter rotations? Bobby Cox is a genius with the lineup. That’s why I’d choose TP, first, who has played in the Cardinal and Braves organization under 2 great managers. What has Eddie Perez organized?

Bob Horner had a sweet compact swing

September 21st, 2009
6:57 pm

Virginia “old” fan….I’m okay with Pat Corrales…you spelled it right…half the team is Latino…why not a latino Mgr…maybe he can spark those those guys….

UGA242

September 21st, 2009
7:01 pm

It is out of pure ignorance that people would vote for Terry to be the replacement. For the entirety of his stand as our hitting coach, our batting has been horrendous. He caused Andruw to fall apart and he’s messing up Chipper. What a terrible choice it would be to promote him to manager, when the day arrives.

bowman

September 21st, 2009
7:08 pm

Another stupid blog by Bradley. There’s a reason he’s known as “Mr. I’m on, and now off, the bandwagon.” Nobody is more wishy-washy that Bradley, except when he decides the bury the dagger in someone’s heart, and then he’s ruthless. Bradley has decided Cox must go but Atlanta Braves’ management hasn’t. Bradley has decided it’s time to list successor candidates but Atlanta Braves’ management hasn’t. Guess who will have the final decision? Not Bradley.

As to the “prospective choices,” what is the matter with the respondents? The leading vote getter, as if it mattered, is Terry Pendleton. Other than his MVP season, what has the chubster contributed to the Braves success, or lack thereof? Hitting coach? Please. When has the Braves hitting looked exceedingly successful? When Chipper Jones or Brian McCann, the team’s best hitters, have a problem who do they call? Not TP, but their fathers. It’s a shame that Bradley would list TP as a candidate, and it’s an indictment of Braves fans that they would chose him over more qualified candidates, even if they aren’t former Braves.

bowman
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“Art will always be Art.” – Goethe

Hillbilly Deluxe

September 21st, 2009
7:09 pm

Mark,

Many times you’ve said Bobby Cox is the best manager you’ve ever seen and he’s still an active Major League manager. Then today you say Ron Gardenhire is the best manager in baseball. Forgive me for being a tad confused here. (I do think Ron is a fine manager).

I do agree I’d rather see most anybody with a pulse over Bobby Valentinne.

chuck

September 21st, 2009
7:10 pm

how about Ryne Sandberg young enough to identify with the younger players, but please not Pendleton he is what killed the free swingers Frenchy and Andruw he took them from their game.

MAD-DONNA

September 21st, 2009
7:15 pm

Chuck, can you please do better than that?

BIG MAC

September 21st, 2009
7:15 pm

Anybody on this board who thinks that TeePee would be a good manager loses instant credibility in my book…how many Braves have improved as a hitter under him? I’d put Yost, Gonzalez, Snitker or Wellman in front of TP from the ‘hometown’ list & the only guy behind him would be Guillen who is a 1st class jerkoff. All I know is that Cox got a lot of credit for being “GREAT” when all he and Leo had to do was pick a Hall of Famer to win 3 of 5 most of the 1990’s. I figure 75% of D-1 coaches could have accomplished the same results with the teams of the ’90s.

Nelson

September 21st, 2009
7:17 pm

1-Chino Cadahia
2-Ned Yost
3- Jack Mc Keon
4- David Justice
5- A manager from Cuba who knows English ( is cheap and very reliable).

Nelson

September 21st, 2009
7:18 pm

Enter your comments here

Sonny Clusters

September 21st, 2009
7:27 pm

Chino Cadahia is on our list, too. Chino looks a lot like a manager and he seems to have the requisite scratching and spitting down. We have never seen him nose pick but he probably can. When Escobar gets pulled out of the lineup it’s Chino that goes up to him and talks with him and explains that some players can run “easy” to first base and some have to run hard. Chino might be just the one to replace Bobby. He is a former catcher and catchers sometimes make good managers. He already has a uniform.

Riaan Spanjer-Furstenberg

September 21st, 2009
7:30 pm

How about me?

Dubbs

September 21st, 2009
7:39 pm

Torre Tyson, Yankees A manager….and Pujols’ trusted hitting confident

phil

September 21st, 2009
7:43 pm

As long as the Braves refuse to put money into the team it doesnt matter who manages they will be a non-playoff team. The one thing that Cox needs to do is to make changes. Chipper needs to go to first base. Less wear and tear on his body compaired to third base. Go get a CLOSER. How many games have been lost due to the bullpen. I say bring in Maddux as the pitching/bench coach. He has stated that he would like to be a bench coach how many times have we heard stories of him calling outs from the bench before the pitch. Go get a hitting coach who is a instructor, not somebody like TP who just coaches. Bottom line is as long as the Braves owners treat them as a busniess that is decided by profit and loss and not by winning championships the braves will struggle.

billy ray valentine

September 21st, 2009
7:44 pm

Mark,

What about Dave Brundage at Gwinnett?

Jose Chung

September 21st, 2009
7:51 pm

Please, ANYBODY but Pendleton!

jacket3

September 21st, 2009
7:54 pm

bring Mazonnie out of selling cool aid and swimming in the pool. He had the best rotation in the majors for years, and he knows how to coach….or I’d go with that UNKNOWN guy at GT. How many major leaguers has he turned out and how many times has GT been in tournament ball in the last 25 years??

jacket3

September 21st, 2009
7:56 pm

The GT guys is Danny Hall…better than a lot of the major league managers, hands down.

mikey

September 21st, 2009
7:56 pm

T.P. has not been sucessful as a hitting coach, why promote him over everything? Hire Leo!

VaBraveFan

September 21st, 2009
8:01 pm

Everyone thinks 1st base is so easy to play……… alot more footwork involved. Deal with holding runners. and we always see mistakes involving the 1st basman making the small tosses to the pitcher covering. Chipper at 1st could be even worse. Considering he’s never played a game at the position, high bad throw he goes to jump for it comes down on the bag spring ankel, or can he cant one hop throws from the other infielders?? He’s been horrible at 3rd this year and he would prolly be worst at 1st.

Doctor Bird

September 21st, 2009
8:03 pm

Keep Bobby as long as he wants to manage. Everyone always rips on Bobby…. tell me one manager who makes great decisions all the time? None, they all make bone headed moves. At least players like Javy Vasquez can appreciate and thrive under Bobby after being under asses like Ozzie Guillen. Making bone headed moves is more than compensated by having a good/professional club house with players that WANT to play for you.

Luman Harris

September 21st, 2009
8:04 pm

I would like to add another name… Bobby Cox. To paraphrase Ted Turner, the guy we are looking for to replace Bobby Cox is Bobby Cox. From 1966 there are only two things to consider. Exhibit A is the Braves without Bobby Cox. Exhibit B is the Braves with Bobby Cox. I cast my vote for the Bobby Cox Braves.

When you think of all the division achievments, League Championships, and the ONE World Series that everone likes to harp, the Braves have not exactly presented the most threatening line up. They have had good players. Good guys for the community. Players of character and team. But with all the success this organization has had, how many players other than Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz are HOF material? There is Chipper, of course. I hope he gets it.

The Braves are who they are because of Bobby Cox. Players come to Atlanta and all of the sudden, they are better than ever. Players leave Atlanta and you never hear anything about them again. These players may be inspired but some of the credit has to go to the manager that knows how to best use the talent.

Every year the Braves break camp with a chance. As a fan that is all you can ask. If you want something else, there is a place for you. Without Bobby Cox all you have is Cubs. They stopped blaming the manager years ago. Now days the blame goes to a goat, a black cat and a guy wearing goofy head phones. A good day is when their star hits a homerun! A good year is when the Cubs are out of it in August. That’s when the Bears start.

Until Bobby quits, he is my vote for manager.

blankfan

September 21st, 2009
8:04 pm

Enter your comments here Is Ozzie available

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
8:05 pm

Bobby Cox at his best is the best I’ve ever seen. But I’ve also noted that I don’t believe this has been Cox’s finest hour.

VaBraveFan

September 21st, 2009
8:12 pm

I think its time for a change, but if they decided to bring back Bobby for another year i will suppoort there decision.
I think we need someone younger and someone thats been involved with the Braves. We need a manager that will mix up things when there not working and try different stradegies instead of using the same gameplan everynight.
One thing about Cox we will miss is him protectiing players and arguing the calls and Getting thrown out of games. Cause no one else does it like Bobby.

Duke DeLuca

September 21st, 2009
8:19 pm

If these are the 5 best replacements for Bobby Cox, then these are also the best 5 reasons to keep Bobby Cox that I can think of.

kenneth

September 21st, 2009
8:20 pm

What’s Jeff blauser doing these days?

Larry

September 21st, 2009
8:22 pm

Mark,

Do not listen to the girly men like Ken Stallings. He’s literally asking you to avoid your honest opinion to maintain the favor of your fellow writers and to retain access to the Braves personnel. As I wrote in your other column, you now have my utmost respect for at least debating the possibilities and this is the very best type of journalistic integrity.

Stallings,

Grow a pair!

Larry (1-14)

kenneth

September 21st, 2009
8:23 pm

Russ Nixon? Chuck Tanner?

kenneth

September 21st, 2009
8:24 pm

What about getting Klesko as hitting coach if TP gets Bobby’s job?

Tommy Hawk

September 21st, 2009
8:31 pm

Glenn Hubbard will be the next Braves manager.

311

September 21st, 2009
8:34 pm

billy ray washington

September 21st, 2009
8:44 pm

Hey dis Billy Ray here.

All you rednecks who think my man Terry is not qualified are nothing but a bunch of racists.

Yet you want that fat man Mazzone to be manager, shoot, even that bumbling boobie cox couldn’t screw up that rotation. Mazzone did nothing but rock back and forth and watch the 3 hall of fame pitchers do their thing. McDowell has one of the best rotations in baseball, but all you wannabes talk about the “good ole days”..

What a bunch of losers.

NC Dawg

September 21st, 2009
8:48 pm

Cecil34

September 21st, 2009
8:51 pm

Musing about replacing Cox reminds me of Tom Landry of the Dallas Cowboys. One of the finest men to ever associate himself with the NFL and a innovative class act. Great coach. Successful for most of his career.

Almost every Dallas fan despised how Jerry let Tom go. It was not handled well and Jerry, being the novice owner he was at the time, blew it.

Having said that, most every true Dallas fan will also tell you – that it was time for Tom to step down. Coach Landry was having an increasingly hard time understanding the psyche of the young players and creating a viable gameplan that would utilize the talents of these guys. The flex defense had long been figured out (counter with West Coast) but Tom just did not adapt.

Jerry brought in Jimmy Johnson, a enthusiastic young college coach who breathed new life into the team. How?

New offensive and defensive philosophies as well as a keen eye for judging talent. And the moxie to lead a team, not just “manage”.

There is a difference.

It is time to go in another direction – Damn right Mark.

Call Jimmy!

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
9:02 pm

It’s a fine line to walk for a player, and it’s the same for a manager: How long is too long? Do you retire at the first sign of diminishing returns, or do you keep going in the hope that it was only an aberration? There’s never a single answer to that. It’s a case-by-case thing. And I don’t know what Bobby Cox will decide.

I do know his team is beating the Mets tonight.

Repeat History

September 21st, 2009
9:07 pm

The last time Bobby Cox left, didn’t they bring in Torre?
Try that again. Buy him out in LA, besides, the Braves surely made a good impression on him when they caught the Dodgers by surprise in that west-coast series recently.

Cecil34

September 21st, 2009
9:08 pm

Mark, more often than not, the player or coach waits too late to make the right call.

I can go on baseballreference.com and pull up scores of hall of famers whose last year or two in the league was abysmal. Just a year or two too late.

I think several years out of the playoffs is a good starting point for analysis of whether it is time or not….

Mark Bradley

September 21st, 2009
9:12 pm

I’m also thinking of Bobby, believe it or not. I don’t want to see him not succeed. I have too much respect for the man. And I don’t like the feeling when even I start asking myself, “Is that good managing?”

Cecil34

September 21st, 2009
9:20 pm

I sure didn’t want to see Coach Landry not succeed either – and I have the utmost respect of what Bobby has accomplished in his career.

But when you get 68, and I am only 49, but when you get 68, is it all working like it used to upstairs?

Is the impetus for having daily enthusiasm for the game and being mentally in the game really there every night?

Sometimes I really wonder…..

Cecil34

September 21st, 2009
9:23 pm

At what point does a 68 year old manager’s mental faculties start to slip? Perceptually or inperceptually?

I have seen signs….

mebeingme

September 21st, 2009
9:23 pm

If the Braves hire TP………I will NEVER return to the TED until he leaves! He’s an AWFUL coach.

UGAKev {true dawg fan}

September 21st, 2009
9:24 pm

Don’t laugh but how bout Bobby Valentine

Don

September 21st, 2009
9:24 pm

The Florida Marlins manager Fredi Gonzalez is the right man! Can’t believe he wasn’t listed in your top 5. They should do what they need to do to bring him back to Atlanta.

GREG MADDUX

September 21st, 2009
9:25 pm

<———– BAM, NUFF SAID RIGHT THERE. GLAVINE OR SMOLTZ WOULD BE MY PITCHING COACH AND CHIPPER MY HITTING COACH ONCE HE RETIRES NEXT YEAR.

Reid Adair

September 21st, 2009
9:39 pm

Now that Liberty Media and Frank Wren have created a situation that may well force Bobby Cox to walk away, I don’t think they’ll consider Terry Pendleton at all. They will want a clean slate.

I also don’t think they’re smart enough to make a serious offer to any of the four “outsiders” on your list, Mark. And that’s probably the worst part of the entire situation.

Herschel Talker

September 21st, 2009
9:42 pm

BOOBY SUX!!!

T.Sapp

September 21st, 2009
9:55 pm

I believe that the person who should tak over is someone who has experience. ?? Ned Yost. He did a great job with the Brewers who were stupid to get rid of him.

Mike Jordan

September 21st, 2009
10:01 pm

5 candidates to replace Mark Bradley:
1.A monkey with a typewriter
2. Joe the Plumber
3. Spongebob
4. A mannequin
5. Otis the Drunk
5.

Hoosier Aaron

September 21st, 2009
10:02 pm

Mickey Hatcher – Hitting Coach, LA Angels of Anaheim

Sonny Clusters

September 21st, 2009
10:10 pm

Hitting Coach, Julio Franco.

Jimmy Jam

September 21st, 2009
10:14 pm

Rocket Wheeler: Coached 2008 Pelicans to the League Finals, 2003 Rome Braves to Championship, 1999 Dunden Blue Jays to League Finals. Has been in the Braves system since 2003 so he knows a lot of the young guys very well such as Heyward (a part of the 2008 team), Hanson ( a part of the 2008 team for the 1st half), and McCann( a part of the 2003 team). He also knows the veterans well since he has spent time with the Major league club once the minor league season ends (I’ve seen him in the dugout). Is fiery which is needed

Relentless

September 21st, 2009
10:20 pm

Mark would you consider growing back your stash? Thought it looked good. Hire Ken Stabler aka “The snake” Hes from the south and a winner. Excuse me I need to swim out to the mailbox and get the mail.

cvbraves

September 21st, 2009
10:20 pm

I hope that Bobby doesn’t decide to retire. If he does, tell him to call me and I’ll do all I can to talk him out of it. He’s easily best manager (still) in major league baseball.

chill

September 21st, 2009
10:28 pm

How about none of the above!?

Gary McKillips

September 21st, 2009
10:28 pm

Enter your comments here If you were looking outside for a manager and you saw someone with Bobby’s credentials, you’d snap him up in a minute. Change is always enticing, but not always the best. Let’s not rush to replace one of the best manager’s ever. The time will come soon enough.

Paul

September 21st, 2009
10:51 pm

Does Joe Simpson have any interest in leaving the booth?

BravefaninChicago

September 21st, 2009
10:55 pm

I think Bob Brenly would be a good choice for the Braves. Experienced and has won the big one.

BraveDanTheMan

September 21st, 2009
11:10 pm

Ryne Sandberg is on the rise and seems dedicated to suceed.

PMC

September 21st, 2009
11:11 pm

Jim Leyland.

Stumpknocker

September 21st, 2009
11:21 pm

It’s obviously time for old man Cox to go cause the only thing he’s good at anymore is getting thrown out of the game. I also wouldn’t touch Pendleton with a ten foot pole. Can you name one, just one player that can give positive testamony as to the effectiveness of TP’s hitting instruction? I could name you several that he didn’t help. If a replacement is found in the organization, let it be Eddie Perez.

knucksie

September 21st, 2009
11:24 pm

Freddie Gonzalez

kenneth

September 21st, 2009
11:28 pm

How bout Tim McCarver. Just listen to his broadcast and you’ll realize he knows everything. Joe Morgan would be a close second.

Just another Brave fan...

September 21st, 2009
11:30 pm

Eddie Perez is probably the best coach in the Venezuelan winter league, last year he almost made the manager of the year on his first year as a coach and with a team of rookies (the majority of the Aguilas del Zulia were rookie and unknown players) made it all the way to the playoffs. He is completely on top of his game and makes the right moves at the right time. Everyone here knows him and respects him as a player, friend and part of the coaching staff, but as a coach he takes it very serious, kind of do or die on every game and doesn’t hesitate to think outside the box.
It might sound crazy, but I think its actually a great idea of Eddie leading the Braves. The team need the change and energy.

observor

September 21st, 2009
11:45 pm

Is Whitey Herzog still available? If he had been our manager the last 2 decades the braves would have at least 4 WS championships….

observor

September 21st, 2009
11:49 pm

On a serious note, I think the Eddie Perez recommendation is probably the best one yet….

Not only was he a hard nosed blue collar player, he also can connect with the Latin and American players, which will be huge moving forward….

The A Bomb

September 21st, 2009
11:56 pm

It will be Mills. He and Wren go back to the minors together as teammates along with Francona.

It would be a solid outside hire in the mold of Mike Smith. Need some fresh blood.

Duke DeLuca

September 22nd, 2009
12:02 am

Reading these comments scares the hell out of me. I hope no one takes these seriously.

Count de Monet

September 22nd, 2009
12:27 am

I don’t know what his contract situation is but how about John Russell, current Pirates mgr. I would love to see what he would do with this team.

msbrve

September 22nd, 2009
12:44 am

Enter your comments here What about Don Mattingly. He has been coaching under Joe Torre.

Murph

September 22nd, 2009
3:41 am

The manager position is one that’s way over-valued. How many times in a week is a manager forced to make a decision that isn’t Baseball 101 type stuff? Every once in a great while a manager will pull some nugget of wisdom out of his hat and do something that affects the outcome of a game, but it’s few and far between. Players are professionals, they’ve all been a part of baseball for a long, long time and they have a pretty good idea of what to do. Hit, pitch, catch, throw, run… not exactly rocket science.

That being said, hiring TP would be a HUGE mistake. He has shown his worth as a member of the coaching staff and, if anything, should be fired, not promoted.

I’ve played a lot of MLB on my Playstation, I have a pretty good idea of when to call for a steal and when to play the outfield deep. Give me the job. Heck, I’d do it for free for a season just to prove a point.

Sadtoseeitthisway

September 22nd, 2009
4:23 am

How about a veteran player who has always been respected at the end of a long career? And who didn`t make a ton of money who would have no desire to remain in the game. How about SS Omar Vizquel?

P. Bull Terrier

September 22nd, 2009
4:56 am

What about Ted Turner? He does have experience managing the team and he’d certainly shake things up in the club house. I can just imagine him telling Chipper that it’s his turn to ride the ostrich in the pre-game race.

Wont Jones

September 22nd, 2009
6:05 am

Mark:
I’m surprized you missed the obvious wild-card choice (beyond Ted Turner) and nominate Chipper Jones as player/manager. He’s already talking about stepping down if he can’t step up, and he’s a throw-back to the old days where players started the game with a dirty uni. He’s earned the respect of his teammates, and I’ll bet you a cold one he would take the job. He would also bench himself and play someone who would do the job when that time comes.

Joe Torres

September 22nd, 2009
6:18 am

Enter your comments here
We need a coach with the La Russa style…Oquendo is a great idea…The team need fire-up, and a speed runner, and a 30 home runs guy…

read-n-black

September 22nd, 2009
6:35 am

Pasquel Perez – just get him a Garmon!

read-n-black

September 22nd, 2009
6:37 am

ok…the last was a sorry joke but i like Ozzie Guillen. I don’t know when his contract is up but it may not matter. I don’t think he will be in Chicago much longer.

Coach (2010 or Bust)

September 22nd, 2009
6:54 am

I nominate myself as the right candidate for the managers job. Requirements are as follows:

Five million up front for starters with the right to walk away if I so choose, and the right to kick Frank Wren’s behind if I get the urge. My own penthouse with 24 hour escort service at home and on the road. Cigars will be banned from the clubhouse but medicinal cannabis is allowed. Foul language will be encouraged at all times. I’ll fight the opposition at the drop of a hat and drop it myself. I also demand that Whitey Herzog be given his own his own rocking chair as part of my coaching staff.

Pitching and defense will be the hallmark of my club. If said pitcher or player cannot do both, he will be clubbed. O yea, better run like the damn wind when I call for a double steal or I’m gonna steal your ride, and take it for a spin around the bases behind you. Dirty uniform’s, tobacco and a bad attitude’s are welcome. For pitchers: pine tar, emery boards, thumb tacks and hair gel are required tools for the job. Brush back pitches and a mean disposition are welcome too.

Rule number one, my name is *that Asshole*, just don’t repeat it in front of me. Rule number two, I’m always right. Rule number three, If I’m wrong, refer to rules two and one in backwards order.

When can I start?

Coach (2010 or Bust)

September 22nd, 2009
6:58 am

I nominate myself as the right candidate for the managers job. Requirements are as follows:

Five million up front for starters with the right to walk away if I so choose, and the right to kick Frank Wren’s behind if I get the urge. My own penthouse with 24 hour escort service at home and on the road. Cigars will be banned from the clubhouse but medicinal cannabis is allowed. Foul language will be encouraged at all times. I’ll fight the opposition at the drop of a hat and drop it myself. I also demand that Whitey Herzog be given his own his own rocking chair as part of my coaching staff.

Pitching and defense will be the hallmark of my club. If said pitcher or player cannot do both, he will be clubbed. O yea, better run like the damn wind when I call for a double steal or I’m gonna steal your ride, and take it for a spin around the bases behind you. Dirty uniform’s, tobacco and a bad attitude’s are welcome. For pitchers: pine tar, emery boards, thumb tacks and hair gel are required tools for the job. Brush back pitches and a mean disposition are welcome too.

Rule number one, my name is *that A-hole*, just don’t repeat it in front of me. Rule number two, I’m always right. Rule number three, If I’m wrong, refer to rules two and one in backwards order.

When can I start?

KT

September 22nd, 2009
7:01 am

Sorry, but Terry Pendleton would just the worst choice possible. Please get a good manager. the choice of Pendleton would just insure many more years of failure, before finally getting a quality manager. Might as awell keep Cox if you choose Pendleton.

tpm

September 22nd, 2009
7:17 am

Mark Bradley seems to have an agenda to get rid of Bobby Cox

richbrave

September 22nd, 2009
7:23 am

MARK:

Didn’t vote because my choice is DAVE BRUNDIGE, and he wasn’t on the list. And I like your reasons for picking PENDLETON fourth. 1- He rides a HARLEY, and 2- he’s a hard-nose change of pace guy. All I can say is wow. Way to make an informed decision as significant as this one would be. Thank goodness you don’t get to choose. Come on MARK. You can do better than this.

Avid Hahira/Valdosta Braves Fan

September 22nd, 2009
7:24 am

Anyone with some fire in his gut, good baseball instincts, and knows how to handle a pitching staff (Bobby Cox does not and never has and never will) would be a great manager for the Braves.

shufzz

September 22nd, 2009
7:26 am

Enter your comments here
Is it too much to do a little homework before you jabber stream of consciousness meandering thoughts?
Anyone familiar with Dave Duncan’s mindset would know that he hasn’t or won’t have any interest in being a big league manager. His style is behind the scenes in the trenches and has as much said so in numerous interviews.

pstlparks

September 22nd, 2009
7:35 am

Why not Tom Hanks? He did a good job coaching a bunch of girls!

Not TP please.

September 22nd, 2009
7:42 am

I’m with at least 8 other people on this thread who’ve commented that TP doesn’t do his current job well, why promote him? The Braves have been consistent about offensive-underperformance during his tenure as hitting coach. Don’t say it was just Francouer either, Chipper goes to his dad; when Andruw couldn’t get it straightened out in house he went outside. If the team underperforms offensively year in-year out I put that on the hitting coach.

abudefdef

September 22nd, 2009
7:46 am

PHILLIP WELLMAN!!!

He would break Bobby’s record for ejections, and probably do it in just a season and a half!

Bring him up!

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
7:50 am

I like Fredi Gonzalez and Ned Yost. Even if you don’t, Mark, they should certainly be part of your poll.

Scott Ullger? Really?

Rick

September 22nd, 2009
8:03 am

Don’t know if he would want to do it but how about Hammering Hank Aaron?

William

September 22nd, 2009
8:20 am

Enter your comments here I think that it should be someone outside of the organization. An ex catcher and one of the younger breed like they did with the yankees with guerrarde.. besides I dont think thats going to take place for another two years. until cox himself desides to. its still going to be his job til he steps down.

Big Al

September 22nd, 2009
8:24 am

I second the Bruce Benedict nomination. He has minor league manager experience, bench coach experience, and scouting experience.

Yehuda Hamer

September 22nd, 2009
8:29 am

I need more choices

Obie1

September 22nd, 2009
8:39 am

Hate to bust everyone’s bubble about Eddie Perez but the guy is not a good person. He has bad character flaws and you don’t want that as the leader of your baseball team. He has cheated on his wife on numerous occasions and is a first class liar. I have insider knowledge. My two cents.

jtwillis

September 22nd, 2009
8:44 am

Would Stotlemeyer from the Yanks be a good choice? I know that isn’t how you spell his name, but thought I’d throw it out there. Also, starting new, why not look to Tom Glavine?

RichC

September 22nd, 2009
8:45 am

I suspect the Braves will plug Pendleton in and see if he succeeds over the next couple of years. If so, great. If not, they sign Gonzalez when his Marlins contract ends. Freddie still has his home here in Atlanta, last I heard, so it’d be an easy transition.

Maniac

September 22nd, 2009
8:48 am

I VOTE FOR MANNY MOTA or José Cuervo

OhEddie

September 22nd, 2009
8:51 am

MB – Let’s say TP became manager, do you think Chipper could, or would want to, become the Braves hitting coach?

Forrest

September 22nd, 2009
8:51 am

I guess my question would be what the goals for the next manager would be? I am reminded of a few years back when the Catholic Church was looking for a new Pope and they decided to go after an older more established Cardinal because he would not face as much criticism for failing to live up to his predecessor, because the understanding was he would only be around for a few years. Why not put some very stable, conservative time between Bobby and taking a risk on a young and unproven coach.

George

September 22nd, 2009
8:52 am

I must have missed the news that Bobby had resigned. Talk about replacing the husband before he is even dead……. No respect.

Dr. Jesse

September 22nd, 2009
8:55 am

Who ever thinks Bobby will leave this pitching staff without being fired is crazy. He loves these long seasons and short post season runs. Two names I have not seen…Glen Hubbard [in house] and japan returnee [Asian World Champion winner} Bobby Valentine. Love the fire need the fire but alas we are and will be left in the cold. Bobby is still heating his house with whale oil. He ain’t a’changin’!

DMac

September 22nd, 2009
8:56 am

Webhead said it best: “TP is one of the reasons Cox should go. Why reward him with the top job? I swear it’s like everybody has taken crazy pills.”

DMac

September 22nd, 2009
9:07 am

The people who are still defending Bobby Cox must either: a. not have watched any of the Braves games this year, or b. know nothing at all about baseball. Any baseball savy person, who watched the games, would have seen the many, many managing blunders that Cox made, often costing the team a win. Now are we supposed to overlook all of that, because he was (debatably) successful in the past? Please Bobby, just go. It’s time. And if he won’t retire voluntarily, then please John and Frank, gently but firmly escort him to the door to retirement.

Smack

September 22nd, 2009
9:12 am

I agree we need to look outside of the organization. If for no other reason, we need a new voice and someone that can provide direction, not have things so loose. We need a manager with drive. I keep coming back to Clint Hurdle for whatever reason.

sidslidkid

September 22nd, 2009
9:20 am

Eddie Perez!!!!!

Kevin

September 22nd, 2009
9:25 am

You want jimmy leyland be hard to since he coachin The detroit Tigers still…..TP be not look at franceor after leavin brves he ovwe 312 agv now…..ha ha My choice for mamanger be Bobby V the former met manager be idea.Maybe hank aaron be idea.Are lets get Bob Barker be braves skipper n have drew carey as hittin coach next season…..i hope i get a laugh are chuckle from U folks!

abudefdef

September 22nd, 2009
9:29 am

PHILLIP WELLMAN!!!

jdawg

September 22nd, 2009
9:31 am

what about that manager in the braves minor league system who lost his mind a few years ago. it ould be cool to see him throw sandbag grenades in the majors

NS Pendleton

September 22nd, 2009
9:32 am

Maybe I’m just biased because my last name is Pendleton and I named my dog Terry only because of my last name, but I would really like to see Terry Pendleton become the new manager when Cox retires. Either that or see Mazzone come back, which will probably never happen.

Kevin

September 22nd, 2009
9:33 am

You want jimmy leyland be hard to since he coachin The detroit Tigers we could get drew carey manager team n bob barker hittin coach but bein real.I hire Ed Yost n hittin coach Perez are former catcher…next year..unless Lou was fired from cubs he could come here to managed us….gerald perry also be are new hittin coach. we can’t hire connie mack are Leo the lip durocher(spellin off)they long dead sorta like who is there now.are Mark Bradley could be the new manager of Braves

RBrave

September 22nd, 2009
9:35 am

TP is not even a good hitting coach ! What makes you think he would be a good head coach ? Usually you promote for excellent work and production he has done niether. I can see it coming now he is going to get the job because he’s black, because if he doesn’t get it race will be the reason.

coach smith

September 22nd, 2009
9:42 am

Right now it is a pointless debate because BOBBY COX WILL BE BACK

When he does leave, I think it is in this order

1. TP
2. Freddy Gonzalez (I think he could jump teams)
3. Eddie Perez
4. Ned Yost
5. Jose Oquindo

and an off the RADAR pick…..JOE SIMPSON (if he was interested I really think he could be a successful coach. All the Braves’ players know him, he knows the personnel, he is a very smart baseball guy

coach smith

September 22nd, 2009
9:43 am

Right now it is a pointless debate because BOBBY COX WILL BE BACK

When he does leave, I think it is in this order

1. TP
2. Freddy Gonzalez (I think he could jump teams)
3. Eddie Perez
4. Ned Yost
5. Jose Oquindo

and an off the RADAR pick…..JOE SIMPSON (if he was interested I really think he could be a successful coach. All the Braves’ players know him, he knows the personnel, he is a very smart baseball guy and coming down from the press box has been done before

BravesFan

September 22nd, 2009
9:47 am

I wouldn’t pick any of them. I would get Ned Yost, who took a less than impressive Brewers team and turned them around. He got a raw deal there, plus he has Braves roots.

Stotts Era

September 22nd, 2009
9:54 am

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE no terry pendleton….he is ruining the team as hitting coach

i think bobby (cox not dews) should be bullpen coach and eddie perez manager. just have them switch places. makes perfect sense

abudefdef

September 22nd, 2009
9:55 am

jdawg—the tantrum-tossing, phantom grenade-throwing manager you speak of…

PHILLIP WELLMAN!!!

I’m telling you he would shatter Bobby’s ejections record no later than July 2012…

Cynthia

September 22nd, 2009
9:57 am

I would like to see Terry Pendleton as the new Braves Manager. He had a stellar career with the Braves and as you said is much respected by the players. Hands down, he’s my choice.

Mark Bradley

September 22nd, 2009
9:59 am

I don’t know how keen Chipper Jones is on coaching, Eddie.

JD

September 22nd, 2009
10:01 am

“Why would you hire someone whose previous team fired him as it was about to make the playoffs? Is there a brighter red flag?”

No there is not, but the Braves hired Cox anyway. You forgot to add that the Blue Jays won two World Series immediately after firing him. That’s about five or so less than the Braves would have won had they done the same.

No manager has done less with more in the postseason in any sport that Cox. Maybe they can hire George Karl or Marty Schottenheimer to continue the tradition.

Mark Bradley

September 22nd, 2009
10:03 am

The Blue Jays did not fire Cox. He left after the 1985 season to become GM of the Braves. The Blue Jays promoted Jimy Williams. They won the World Series in 1992 and 1993 under Cito Gaston.

Bob Horner

September 22nd, 2009
10:07 am

What about Eddie Perez?

rob graner

September 22nd, 2009
10:08 am

Bradley is just stirring the pot. Cox is one of the best coaches in baseball. The players are not complaining and are playing well. Yes he has made some bad decisions this year that we all second guess but, what manager has not done so over so many games played. Chipper not hitting was the major problem and not having a big bat until Adam was acquired. Our GM needs to find a big stick this offseason to help fix our problems. Bradley someone should come after your job so you know how it feels to have a witch hunt. I know of at least 5 other sport reporters that can be better than you as well!!!!

Tdalmore

September 22nd, 2009
10:33 am

If you’re going to make a move away from Cox — which should be done — then you really should go with a fresh new approach. Elevating Pendleton to that job would be little more than a continuation of the Cox mentality and system. With the pitching staff we’ve got — really good starters, really erratic late-inning relievers — I’d like to see someone take over who isn’t a stubborn manage-by-formula/pitch-count guy.

abudefdef

September 22nd, 2009
10:36 am

If I was Bobby Cox, I’d give it one more year…
Starting Rotation:
Tim Hudson (sign him to an extension!)
Javier Vazquez (sign him to an extension too)
Jair Jurrjens
Tommy Hanson
Derek Lowe or Kenshin Kawakami (trade whichever one it isn’t even if they have to eat some contract to get a POWER HITTING OF)

Mike Gonzalez or Rafael Soriano as closer, let the other one walk to free up some cash

Lineup
McLouth OF
Prado 2B
Chipper 3B
POWER HITTING OF
McCann C
Yunel SS
LaRoche 1B / Freeman 1B
Diaz OF / Heyward OF
Pitcher

That’s not a bad lineup, and you can move people around (LaRoche/Heyward-when he’s ready) depending on opposing pitcher

Kelly Johnson / Omar Infante / Brandon Jones / David Ross on bench

Seems like a very competitive Braves team next year in this scenario, one that Cox probably would stick around for…if not…PHILLIP WELLMAN!

Huntsville Yellow Jacket

September 22nd, 2009
10:38 am

Mark,

We need to keep Bobby Cox until he is ready to go. The players love playing for him. I fully realize they haven’t made it to the playoffs as of late, but some of that is due to injuries that are simply beyond a managers control. Like you said in your comments regarding Terry Pendelton, Cox is one of the best managers ever. I have to think that Bobby hasn’t suddenly forgotten how to manage.

BobCee

September 22nd, 2009
10:47 am

Enter your comments here
The new manager needs to be someone who won’t sugar up to the vets on the team. He needs to be the leader and the one who gets the most out of his players. If players like Yunel who seems to have some personality problems, or Chipper who think the Braves owe him something, Derek who is getting paid too much, KK who is also a big IF can’t cut the mustard, then they must go for players who want to play. Also Chipper does not want to retire he only is statying this so the Barves don’t trade and therefor secure his security from the team.

Jim Feely

September 22nd, 2009
10:48 am

One choice here, Orel Hersheiser, a student of the game and great character.

dave

September 22nd, 2009
10:57 am

Yeah, I don’t know why everybody is so up on Pendleton, either. He may do well, he may not. I had not thought about Eddie Perez; could be something there. Where’s Jerry Royster? I seem to remember that every time he’s been given a shot, it was with a team that even Connie Mack or Leo Duroscher couldn’t have won with. Just don’t get somebody who has proven that they can’t win without a payroll; Joe Torre and Jim Leyland come to mind…

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September 22nd, 2009
10:58 am

Enter your comments here

Felix the Cat

September 22nd, 2009
10:59 am

Enter your comments here
How about Joe simpson and the BOOG. They both do a boring job in the booth, they might as well manage and keep the Braves boring as they currently are.. The highlight of their time in the booth is the AFLAC question. The rest of the time it is idle chatter

Lifetime Braves Fan

September 22nd, 2009
11:04 am

Phillip Wellman could be a dark horse. Why not let him give it a shot. He managed alot of these guys in the minors and got them ready for the bigs. One silly meltdown will not stop him from managing the bigs.

MWoody

September 22nd, 2009
11:08 am

I agree with a couple of others who mentioned Brian Snitker. He has already coached everyone on the team who didn’t transfer in from another team. He does very well developing players and getting them ready to play. When the Baby Braves hit town a couple of years ago, Snitker is the one who got them ready to play and they did very well. This is a guy who bleeds Braves and knows the game every bit as well as anyone mentioned on your list or anyone else who has been mentioned. He would be here to win, not here to coach.

Huddy's Ligament

September 22nd, 2009
11:08 am

Enter your comments here

What about Phillip Wellman?
Could be fun with his blow-ups.

Huddy's Ligament

September 22nd, 2009
11:09 am

Or the MB Pelicans manager Rocket Wheeler.

GSU Eagle 91

September 22nd, 2009
11:11 am

I have thought for a few years now that TP would be Bobby’s replacement. Terry brings an edge this young team needs at this time, not a “gentle’ approach Bobby uses.
I give TP my vote.

bull-gator

September 22nd, 2009
11:13 am

Jim Leyland
Buck Showalter
Freddie Gonzalez
Buck Martinez
Andy VanSlyke

Tyler

September 22nd, 2009
11:17 am

what about ned yost? for a while it was thought that he would take over for bobby.

MGM

September 22nd, 2009
11:24 am

Two words:

Biff Pocaroba

Guy Wilson

September 22nd, 2009
11:34 am

I hope Cox will stay another year. He has record that is one of the best ever and is loved by his players. He needs a couple of hitter and a left handed pitcher. This group of players has a great potential and I believe Cox is best man.

Born2Buzz

September 22nd, 2009
11:42 am

On why there are folks who are calling for Bobby to step down but would like to stay in house with either TP or Eddie Perez, I think we all like the “Braves Way” and Bobby has had many years of being a good manager, but even you, MB, are finally admitting that maybe the guy is slipping a bit.

I think TP would probably be a decent manager but I’d vote for Eddie Perez over him. But that would be a serious slap in TP’s face.

kaygeeone

September 22nd, 2009
11:42 am

I think John Smoltz would be better than any other I’ve heard.

Joe M

September 22nd, 2009
11:43 am

Ned Yost would be the perfect choice to replace Bobby Cox. Aside from his long association with the Brave’s organization as a coach, when he got the chance to manage he turned a Brewers team that was a laughing stock into a respectable contender. IMHO, too much weight is given to a manager’s record, and not enough to what he did with the quality of the players he had to work with. Casey Stengel was considered a bumbling clown when he managed the Dodgers and Braves to consistent second division finishes in the 30’s and 40’s, but was a genius when he was given the reins of the Yankees with DiMaggio, Mantle, Berra, Ford, etc., and then became a boob all over again, when he managed the Mets. Everyone raves over what a great manager Joe Torre is. He managed the sad sack Mets to five losing seasons, then suddenly became great with the Braves (managing a team that Bobby Cox basically put together). He was under .500 with the Cards and never made the play-offs, but got smart again when the Yankees and Dodgers outspent everyone else for the best talent. Bottom line, if you have the best players, nine times out of ten you win. What the Braves need is someone who can bring out the best, in the talent we can afford.

By the way, Bobby Cox WILL be back next year. He managed the Braves in the 70’s, 80’s, 90’s and 00’s. Does anyone really think he’s going to step down one year short of managing in a new decade? I think he’ll be here one more year, while grooming someone (Yost, TP…) to be his successor. With many of prospects coming up, and the core of a very good team from 2009,next year should be a very successful season. He and Chipper will retire after 2010, then HOF together in 2015.

Scoots

September 22nd, 2009
11:59 am

Hey Mark -

What do you think about Greg Norton as the next skipper? Clearly Bobby is grooming him for something.

Carole

September 22nd, 2009
12:06 pm

Enter your comments

I would want Terry as the Manager of the Braves. I love everything about him. He is well respected by not only the Braves players but by everyone. I support you Terry.

ijudgenot

September 22nd, 2009
12:08 pm

What ever happened to Chris Chambliss? He was on the radar many times to be a manager. He was in Braves system. Jim Fregossi also knows Braves system and has prior managing experience.
For those who don’t think Tery Pendleton should get the job because he is a Cox deciple, remember he also played and won a world series under Whitey Herzog, who knew how to get speed and how to use it to win a championship. He also was pretty good at handling his pitching staff. If TP is chosen I hope he takes Bobby’s good points (good player relationship, and patience) and Herzog’s good points (knowledge of how to use speed) and use his own instincts to manage the Braves.

GTSteve

September 22nd, 2009
12:09 pm

Joe Simpson for Manager

Jim Williams

September 22nd, 2009
12:11 pm

Terry Pendleton need to leave the team. He is not a manger out look. Fred Mcgriff would be the best hiting coach. Greg Madduz would be the best and smarts pitching coach in the N.L. BASEBALL. For as mangers that are very smart and knows baseball are ;;;; DON SUTTON ,, KIRK GIBSON ,,BRUCE BENEDICT ,, AND DON MATTINGLY . >>>>>>>> BRAVES GEN.MANGER LOOK AT THIS LINE UP <<<<<<<<<<<<< I know baseball too. A winning team in the future.

Jim Williams

September 22nd, 2009
12:12 pm

Enter your comments here

Mike

September 22nd, 2009
12:32 pm

What about Jeff Blauser?

TP for Skipper

September 22nd, 2009
12:33 pm

I seem to remember a third basemen who acted as an onfield coach in his first year as a Brave and led us from worst to first. But that’s old news, right. Remember who was the National league MVP in his first year as a Brave? By the way that was the same year the Braves went from worst to first and never looked back.

TP would be a GREAT skipper for the Braves if Bobby ever decided to hang it up.

In Bobby’s words,

“Terry is good,” Cox said, emphasizing the adjective. “He’s an endless worker. He works harder than any hitting coach I’ve ever seen.” And Cox has worked alongside some fine ones: Cito Gaston, Clarence Jones, Don Baylor, Merv Rettenmund.

AJC June 4, 2009

Funny how short the memory is.

Smooth

September 22nd, 2009
12:34 pm

If Bobby should step down, which I hope he stays. Let’s really shake it up, go get Bobby Valetine.

rufues

September 22nd, 2009
12:41 pm

Who ever put Pendleton in a list for manager, must be trying to play a joke on the fans.
If they are going to make Pendleton manager, I would rather have Bobby Cox stay as manager.
It’s good that Pendleton is a hard worker and he’s like by everyone and so is Bobby Cox.
I didn’t know that managing a team was base on begin liked, and popular, it’s suppose to be how well he knows the game and handle the players, whether the players like it or not. Baseball player today are pamper, more than at any other time, and more than athletes, in other sports. Baseball players make millions of dollars and act like a bunch of spoil babies. Is Pendleton the answer………… NO………..get Billy Martin, he’s better.

Joe B

September 22nd, 2009
12:47 pm

In July, Espn had an online article titled “Retired Maddux interested in spring role”. Here are some interesting quotes from it:

“Manager Bobby Cox and Greg Maddux have mutual interest in Maddux serving as an instructor for the Atlanta Braves in spring training next year.”

“Maddux said he wants to allow one full season to pass so he can better evaluate his desire to return to the game as a coach.”

interesting… It’s been a full season since he’s retired.

Dave

September 22nd, 2009
1:03 pm

If you are lousy at your current job you do not get a promotion. no way no how Terry Pendleton, go for the best , Terry Francona

Dave

September 22nd, 2009
1:05 pm

Enter your comments here

MIke

September 22nd, 2009
1:28 pm

I am amazed at Braves fans who want to dump Bobby Cox after witnessing the best era of Braves baseball ever. EVER. Are any of you over 30 years old? Can you not remember the 70s, and 80s? Cox built — or helped build — both winning eras we had. Look it up. In the 70s, we would have killed for the kind of “mediocrity” we have now.

Having said that, there is evidence that Cox’s run here is nearing an end. I support TP. However, if you want to think outside the box, why not Cito Gaston (a former Brave who has won two WCs). He pumped life into a Toronto club this year that just so happens to play in a division that has three clearly better teams than the Jays. I think Cito would address our hitting woes, too. Unless Cito just loves the AL, I think the Braves job would interest him.

bob horner

September 22nd, 2009
2:01 pm

You need to remember that to ownership, the Braves are a tax writeoff, not a major league baseball team. As Turner Field has been transformed into some kind of sports Six Flags, I would expect that the new manager would be more entertainer than baseball brain.

braves70

September 22nd, 2009
2:15 pm

Funny how quickly people forget the fire of Terry Pendleton as a player. Do any of you remember him chewing out Marvin Freeman (around 1993) for not hitting the opponent after we had been hit? Do any of you remember him leading the charge in the 1992 playoffs when we were down and out? I am sure that his coaching style has been cramped by having to be under Bobby’s command. As far as hitting coach goes, well you can’t make chicken salad out of chicken Francoeur no matter how talented you may be.

While we might disagree on a replacement, I think we all firmly agree that Bobby Cox needs to go now!

Capitol Avenue Cal

September 22nd, 2009
2:23 pm

…..As far as hitting coach goes, well you can’t make chicken salad out of chicken Francoeur no matter how talented you may be…… God, that MADE my day!

abudefdef

September 22nd, 2009
4:41 pm

I think Scoots (page 4 almost at the bottom) has it right…GREG NORTON is still on the team because Bobby is grooming him to be the new manager!

BRING ON PHILLIP WELLMAN

Mississippi were the Southern League CHAMPS in 2008! He knows how to win!

Coach (2010 or Bust)

September 22nd, 2009
5:21 pm

Terry Pendleton has my full support. He has been the Braves hitting coach since 2002 and has done a fine job in this capacity. He’s gonna make a fine manager for our Braves.

killerkudzu

September 22nd, 2009
6:45 pm

If it is going to be in house then it s/b from the minors we have a couple of good manager’s in waiting down on the farm. I personally like the G-Braves manager.

S Burrell

September 22nd, 2009
9:05 pm

Enter your comments here
Gotta be a reason Yost is not a viable option for you, Mark. I know he’ll get in your face (ask John Rocker) but I like a demanding guy. Took small market Milwaukee as far as they could go. So what’s his downside?

[...] Mark Bradley (Atlanta Journal-Constitution) listed five possible candidates to replace Bobby Cox for the Atlanta Braves’ manager job, and Minnesota Twins’ third base coach Scott Ulger is listed fifth. [...]

aton45

September 22nd, 2009
11:43 pm

Why hasnt anybody mentioned the best hitter in the past 30 yrs…Tonny Gwynn

Carl Hester

September 22nd, 2009
11:48 pm

If Bobby goes, why don”t the Braves consider Joe Morgan,
He knows the game and knows how to handle people. Joe Morgan is a team
player and knows how to bring things together. He deserves a World Championship team. The Braves can do it with the work that Joe has put forth.

TheProfessor69

September 23rd, 2009
12:01 am

… I would not hire Terry Pendleton for anything , he needs to be fired as soon as possible… he is a terrible hitting coach and I would not even entertain the thought of him in a managerial position… he needs to go…now.

Chuck Uga

September 23rd, 2009
12:19 am

TERRY PENDLETON?! Are you kidding me?!

Isaac

September 23rd, 2009
8:48 am

How about Davie Johnson guys

Chris

September 23rd, 2009
9:32 am

Anybody remember what happened the Braves stunk and the first thing John Schuerholtz did was bring in a guy named Terry Pendleton and Sid Bream. Terry was a leader then and he is a leader now. He is respected by the players in the clubhouse and when you are working with millionaires, if they don’t respect you they won’t play hard for you.
Pendleton is the man for the job.

Joel Bagby

September 23rd, 2009
4:14 pm

Willie Randolph or Ned Yost.

DavidTH

September 23rd, 2009
4:27 pm

If Terry becomes manager then he gets away from being a batting coach – that would help. Just as long as he isnt the batting coach anymore then I say hire him as manager. The Braves messed up by not getting Joe Torre back, that would have been the best.

dogsbrekky

September 23rd, 2009
4:40 pm

Gardenhire the BEST manager

nope

Cox, Torre, Sciosa, La Russa and Freddi I put ahead of the Twins uno !

dogsbrekky

September 23rd, 2009
4:45 pm

Mike Jordan

September 21st, 2009
10:01 pm
5 candidates to replace Mark Bradley:
1.A monkey with a typewriter
2. Joe the Plumber
3. Spongebob
4. A mannequin
5. Otis the Drunk

All monkeys are outright offended by this post, please ban… Spongebob would be great though

DirkDawggler

September 23rd, 2009
4:49 pm

Is Crash Davis still available?

Ronald Millsaps

September 23rd, 2009
4:49 pm

Ned Yost would be a fine candidate. So would Bob Brenly.

Buzz

September 23rd, 2009
4:50 pm

Greg Maddux should be ASKED, though he would probably not be diplomatic enough, or understanding of other player’s mistakes, to last long.

I don’t think Pendleton is a good choice, his career batting average is lower than Frenchy’s. And he’s never impressed me as a coach. We need a Hall of Famer, and he ain’t it.

Brad in KY

September 23rd, 2009
4:51 pm

Hiring someone familiar with sabermetrics doesn’t really make sense if the organization doesn’t take those sorts of things seriously. There would be a total disconnect between the manager on the field and the front office. The “Braves Way” doesn’t involve much if any sabermetrics analysis so I doubt that will play any part in hiring Brad Mills or aybody else with that sort of experience. I think that’s regrettable, by the way.

Tomahawkin

September 23rd, 2009
4:52 pm

Ozzie Guillen or Ned Yost…

TP is too much like Bobby…He needs to get the AX as hitting coach let alone be a manager

Or better yet if fans really want to stir to add fuel to the fire, Bring in Larry Bowa

If Larry Bowa was manager he would’ve had fights with Chipper and Esco…

Ronald Millsaps

September 23rd, 2009
4:53 pm

Just don’t hire someone whose idea of strong leadership was on display at the UN today.

USMC DAWG

September 23rd, 2009
4:54 pm

TP will get serious consideration. Hank Aaron, Al Sharpton, and Jessie Jackson will see to that.

Ronald Millsaps

September 23rd, 2009
4:58 pm

“buzz”– Actually, Terry Pendleton was a fine career hitter, and your premise that a great player is a prerequisite to being a fine manager simply is incorrect.

How many great managers can you think of offhand who honestly were great players also? Arguably the currently-greatest coach in the NFL was a great player (Mike Singletary), but he’s one of the few.

Playing and coaching are separate entities, period, and I don’t see why you’re knocking Terry Pendleton’s leadership. Heck, his leadership was immeasurably-beneficial in 1991.

Herschel Talker

September 23rd, 2009
4:58 pm

dogsbrekky is 100% g@y.

Innocent Bystander

September 23rd, 2009
4:58 pm

I don’t think Pendleton is a good choice, his career batting average is lower than Frenchy’s.

If you’ve read Moneyball, then you’ve probably read that the best hitting coaches are the ones who were lousy, because they don’t try to teach hitters to be like them.

Innocent Bystander

September 23rd, 2009
4:59 pm

*who were lousy hitters*

Perry Laurentino

September 23rd, 2009
5:01 pm

I vote for Leo Mazzone!

UGA Student

September 23rd, 2009
5:02 pm

Fidel Castro’s son would be a good candidate…. he looked good as a Cuban assistant in the WBC

UGA Student

September 23rd, 2009
5:03 pm

Fidel Castro’s brother would be a good candidate…. he looked good as a Cuban assistant in the WBC

UGA Student

September 23rd, 2009
5:03 pm

Fidel Castro’s brother would be a good candidate…. he looked good as a Cuban assistant in the WBC

UGA Student

September 23rd, 2009
5:03 pm

Fidel Castro’s brother would be a good candidate…. he looked good as a Cuban assistant in the WBC

bob dylan

September 23rd, 2009
5:03 pm

ozzie guilleN!

Joe

September 23rd, 2009
5:04 pm

Potential Atlanta Braves 2011 Coaching Staff:

Mike Maddux Manager
Dave Justice Batting Coach
Greg Maddux Pitching Coach
Mark Lemke First Base Coach
Sid Breme Third Base Coach
Brian Jordan Bench Coach
Fred McGriff Bench Coach
Javy Lopez Bullpen Coach

Go Go

September 23rd, 2009
5:05 pm

What about Guerry Baldwin or Dennis Jordan from East Cobb Baseball? If they’re not available, you’ve got to go with Fredi. If we can get Don Sutton from the Nationals, we should be able to pry Fredi away from Florida. His family still lives in Cobb County so it would be a perfect fit. Or you talk Bobby into to coaching one more year and getting Fredi the following year.

UGA Student

September 23rd, 2009
5:07 pm

Braves #1 problem has been hitting this year. Why promote this clown Terry P? He didn’t deserve the MVP either!

Skeezix

September 23rd, 2009
5:08 pm

Mark: You can’t replace a legend and master like Bobby Cox; you just hire someone else.
One has to be impressed with the job Gonzales has done with the Marlins. I think you are right-Duncan may be an option and I have no qualms about giving TP a shot at it. TP was great team leader as a player and has learned from the master, both as a player and now as a coach.

UGA Student

September 23rd, 2009
5:09 pm

Terry could be the manager as long as he wears a Ninja Turtle costume

Old Dawg

September 23rd, 2009
5:09 pm

As far as I’m concerned you can take Pendleton off the list. His history of trying to change every hitter is a matter of record at failure. He ruined Francoeur and Kelly Johnson, Andrew Jones and countless others. No, no Pendleton.

Eddie

September 23rd, 2009
5:12 pm

Enter your comments here Will this change make Wren known as the “Cox sacker”?

hydee

September 23rd, 2009
5:15 pm

You’re listing the wrong Red Sox coach-pitching coach John Farrel did a great job in personnel in Cleveland and has been outstanding in Boston, he is going to make an excellent manager for whatever teams snaps him up.

JJ

September 23rd, 2009
5:19 pm

If the Braves don’t at least make a call to Fredi Gonzalez, I’ll be upset.

Dat Dude

September 23rd, 2009
5:20 pm

Ned Yost or Eddie Perez would be the two best candidates. Why would you want Pendelton? He has proven to be a terrible hitting coach, look at Andruw and Frenchy, I know he won an MVP here and was a gret player for us, but we need something better than him.

lrw

September 23rd, 2009
5:21 pm

Don Sutton or Lemke.
Really, TP would be more “hard nosed” than Bobby and that is a good thing. What about Yogi? probably makes too much money with AFLAC.

Tewks

September 23rd, 2009
5:24 pm

If we can get past the Marlins issue, Fredi is a no-brainer. Seriously.

JJ

September 23rd, 2009
5:26 pm

Gardenhire is the best manager in baseball? Did he say hello to you once at an airport or something? I can think of 5 guys that I’d put at least on par with Gardenhire, and probably ahead of him. Fredi Gonzalez, Mike Scoscia, Tony LaRussa, Joe Madden, and maybe Ron Washington.

Ronald Millsaps

September 23rd, 2009
5:28 pm

“UGA”– Actually, Terry Pendleton did deserve the MVP in 1991.

If you want to talk about bad management, look at the guy running your team over in Athens. He had the best quarterback and the best runningback all season, and I never saw a sense of urgency. The team looked apathetic and complacent all year, especially Knowshon Moreno, who got hit with a dose of reality when Alabama steamrolled him and his teammates.

Now he’s showing one but doesn’t have the talent.

Speaking of overrated coaching, Urban Meyer is overrated, and Tim Tebow is the most-overrated athlete I’ve ever seen in any sport. The best college player ever?! You’ve got to be kidding me!! He literally isn’t 25% the player Herschel Walker was, and Danny Wuerffel was a LOT better than him.

Ronald Millsaps

September 23rd, 2009
5:32 pm

The best manager in the game today is not Ron Gardenhire but instead a toss-up between Mike Scioscia, Charlie Manuel, Fredi Gonzalez, and Joe Torre.

Bobby can out-manage anyone, but he has shot himself in the foot a lot. His misuse of the hot hand and overuse of R-L matchups hurts him, as does his willingness to use his top relievers basically only when he has the lead. His going to Kris Medlen and Vladimir Nunez the other night was inexcusable.

itpdude

September 23rd, 2009
5:35 pm

I’d like to see a wildcard pick firebrand type like Terry Bevington.

Ronald Millsaps

September 23rd, 2009
5:38 pm

“Bob Horner”–Wow.That post was worth four home runs. :)

Yeah, AOL is garbage as ownership. As I’ve said before, they’re trying to do to to Braves what they did to TBS.

Ned Yost or Bob Brenly would be an excellent choice.

Elbow Room

September 23rd, 2009
5:44 pm

Brad Komminsk, it has to be Brad Komminsk. Why? Because Brad Komminsk is AWESOME!

Just Pat

September 23rd, 2009
5:51 pm

N8…..I was SO glad to see you at least mention Glenn Hubbard. He’d be one of my choices….

Just Pat

September 23rd, 2009
5:58 pm

MB…..re: your 4:08 post regarding Bobby Valentine…..the SAME can b said of Joe Torre.

Dan Faber

September 23rd, 2009
6:14 pm

Enter your comments hereWhere’s Fredi Gonzales?

Just Pat

September 23rd, 2009
6:20 pm

Joe Morgan??????? He couldn’t shut his mouth long enough to manage a team!!!!!!

Chopdawg

September 23rd, 2009
6:22 pm

Luv the idea about Phil Wellman–hey anybody who’d crawl up behind the pitcher’s mound and lob a grenade at home plate has gotta be your man! And it might as well be somebody like him, because whoever follows Cox has a tuff act to follow, like the guy who followed Bear Bryant at Alabama.

Just occured to me–there are probably a lot of fans blogging right now who don’t remember any Atlanta Braves manager other than Bobby Cox, in their entire lifetimes.

BehindEnemyLines

September 23rd, 2009
6:28 pm

Any of the above as long as it isn’t Pendleton.

Ronald Millsaps

September 23rd, 2009
6:29 pm

Joe Simpson wouldn’t be a bad option, as the man is VERY insightful.

Don Sutton and this new guy calling radio games are very misleading oftentimes when delivering a call. The former will say, “OUTSIDE…” on a full count, which suggests a walk, and then will follow with, “…corner! Called strike three!” He also gives excessive detail. (Not bashing the guy as a person or as a pitcher, just not crazy about his commentary.)

The other guy is so stoic that he’s hard to read.

Sid Breem's leg

September 23rd, 2009
6:30 pm

I’d like to see Chipper become a player/manager, then retire at the end of his current contract and become full time manager.

j prince

September 23rd, 2009
6:30 pm

Freddy Gonzalez

redneckbluedog

September 23rd, 2009
6:34 pm

Terry Pendleton head coach. Chipper Jones hitting coach. Evan Longoria 3B.

Just Pat

September 23rd, 2009
6:35 pm

Chopdawg……WRONG…..I was here through the Chuck Tanner, Joe Torre, years and can tell you that Torre was one of the RUDEST people I’ve ever met.

Larrry

September 23rd, 2009
6:37 pm

I loved TP as a player; but as a coach, he has been terrible. The Braves’ hitting has been abysmal and a major reason for their collapse from prominence. **Go with Ullger or Mills.**

Just Pat

September 23rd, 2009
6:41 pm

Larry……if we’re gonna downgrade TP for Francouer, then we have to UPGADE him for Matt Diaz, right??????

Glynn

September 23rd, 2009
6:41 pm

Chipper Jones Manager!!

Brown

September 23rd, 2009
7:11 pm

If this is a done deal, and turns out to be someone other than Pendleton (who I DO like), why not bring him on board for the 2010 season as a scout and coach, let him get to know the players and vice versa and get a big head start on looking within the system for new talent.

Ed

September 23rd, 2009
7:21 pm

I think Lou Brown should be coaxed out of retirement. What he did with the Indians in ‘89 was nothing short of remarkable, considering the history of that club, the tight-fisted owner, and the cast of misfits and retreads he had to deal with.

UGA Student

September 23rd, 2009
7:22 pm

Milsap,

I never said that UGA didn’t have coaching issues. If I were the AD, I would fire everyone in the Richt Regime and hire Boise State’s Coach. Unfortunately, scietologists aren’t allowed in the bible belt. Additionally, how is a coach overrated if he won two National Championships in such a short time (Meyer)? Meyer has tremendous playcall, assistants, recruiting, and beautiful women at florida. Not sure that you know anything MILSAP. You CLOWN. You should leave the local public library in the hills of tennessee, and return to your backwoods shack in the middle of nowhere.

bill

September 23rd, 2009
7:33 pm

f***er needed to be fired about 3 years ago. GD another season with this senile POS.

hymie

September 23rd, 2009
7:36 pm

Oh, well, there’s always 2011.

noogie

September 23rd, 2009
7:37 pm

Unfortunately, scietologists aren’t allowed in the bible belt UGA MF can’t spell. GD, My tax dollars are wasted on this Moran. UGA=MF Idiot

a thought

September 23rd, 2009
8:32 pm

Why not go after Gardenhire?

a thought

September 23rd, 2009
8:33 pm

Noogie, your tax dollars are wasted on yourself…it’s moron and it’s not capitalized unless starting a sentence.

Lee

September 23rd, 2009
9:16 pm

I hope we say in house or at least a Brave alumni.

EdFJ

September 23rd, 2009
9:45 pm

HAL

September 23rd, 2009
10:00 pm

Enter your comments here the people who ripped bobby here all year are probably dinning on crows feet tonight as they read the comments from every single braves past or present saying hes the best in the game mind ya all the idiots on this blog are short of booby is about 2400 wins and maybe 120 iq points lol

Alex

September 23rd, 2009
10:13 pm

As much as it pains me to side with a UGA fan, I have to agree, I actually got to have him as a batting coach several years ago at a baseball camp. He is a great guy, very knowledgeable, and I think he has what it takes to fill Bobby Cox’s shoes. Well maybe in every aspect except the whole record for the most ejections from a game.

drmondo

September 23rd, 2009
10:13 pm

Years ago, wasn’t Leo Mazzone being groomed to be the heir apparent? Why not him? He had a long history with the team and seemed to have the right mentality. I’m sure somebody here will tell me if/why he’s a bad choice or unavailable.

Dad of the Year

September 23rd, 2009
10:23 pm

Greg Maddux
Greg Maddux
Greg Maddux

HAL

September 23rd, 2009
10:23 pm

Enter your comments hereif youall want to replace bradley get loaf a type writer he hasnt moved since spring traing so shouldent be too many typos lol

kool$kat

September 23rd, 2009
10:26 pm

Braves management – step up and do the world a huge favor; hire a minority person, specifically Barack Obama! with Joe Biden as 3b coach, Harry Reid at 1b, Pelosi as pitching coach and Hillary as batting coach – with the understanding that all the above resign from their current jobs.

[...] who’s going to be the first Braves manager in over 20 years once Cox is gone? (Terry Pendleton is your early inhouse [...]

double d

September 23rd, 2009
10:55 pm

Joe Morgan he knows more than anyone,and stays at Holiday Inn Express.

NY Frenchy

September 23rd, 2009
11:22 pm

How about Joe Simpson? Hes a great announcer but Id give that up to put him in the dugout, hes a former player & seems very knowledgeable

Bill

September 23rd, 2009
11:39 pm

the list emphasizes how much the braves will miss cox

TVG

September 24th, 2009
12:14 am

I have it figured out, hire Danny Cox to be the new manager.He is an ex-Cardinal pitcher, this way the Cox tradition continues.

kool$kat

September 24th, 2009
12:21 am

Hire Mike Hampton! who knows if he can coach, but he should be willing to work for at least a couple of years for free, right?

Dan

September 24th, 2009
12:33 am

It does sound like a pick from the heart instead of the head, but Chipper seems to have a manager’s mind for baseball…and nobody can complain about his work ethic. Sure, he’s had injuries, but he’s played through plenty.
I’d pick him even without prior managerial experience.

Drexel Gal

September 24th, 2009
12:37 am

Who is the ignoramus who keeps referring to Bobby Cox as the Braves’ “COACH”? He is their MANAGER. There ARE other sports besides football, and, remember, the Braves are the first MAJOR LEAGUE team to play in Atlanta (beating out the expansion Falcons by several months).

the real Andy

September 24th, 2009
12:45 am

i hope tony gwynn gets a look in 2011. astute baseball guy, seems to have a good personality

glitzsfa

September 24th, 2009
12:51 am

Is Murphy still farming? If he is, how bout promoting Hubbard?

the real Andy

September 24th, 2009
12:58 am

love the Murph, but there’s no way players can relate to his goody-two-shoes nature. i think i’d put “ability to drop an occasional f-bomb (or at least not to flinch when others do)” on the managerial checklist

Tommy

September 24th, 2009
1:16 am

Aren’t we forgetting about one Mr. Ned Yost there Bradley???

jack

September 24th, 2009
1:35 am

It should be Don Sutton! A direct move from the booth has worked before, Houston, and he would be the perfect fit

ABravesFan

September 24th, 2009
1:40 am

How about Chipper as a player-manager? That would be interesting. You got to think that TP is at the top of the short list right now. I’m kind of happy that it wasn’t announced today that TP would take over. It’s good to leave that open because who knows who will be available comes the end of next season (which hopefully will go into November). Maybe even Bobby deciding to come back and defend a title.

Patrick

September 24th, 2009
1:46 am

I have thought for the past year that Ned Yost needs to come back to Atlanta. He would be a good fit if not manager..back in the organization.

PhillyPhil

September 24th, 2009
2:07 am

The logical choice to replace Bobby is easy. Mike Scioscia would turn this team into a true national league team, which happens to suit our personnel better. We’ve had an American League style of play for all of these years; it’s finally time to play like we’re from the senior circuit.

scottbravesfan

September 24th, 2009
2:34 am

I think the Braves should give Don Baylor another shot. I always liked him and thought he got hosed in Denver.

KnightInATL

September 24th, 2009
3:02 am

Any chance of the Braves taking a look at Don Mattingly?

Autumn

September 24th, 2009
4:22 am

Mark, you know when I lived in Marietta for 7 years, I’d pick up the paper, see your name and always read the bad things you had to say about the Braves. I can count on one hand how many times you had something nice to say about the Braves & Bobby….combined. I’m not quite sure why you still report for them. I actually clicked on this thinking maybe you said something nice, then I realized you’re Mark Bradley, and can’t do that. It’s ashame, because if you could actually be a little positive about them, maybe there wouldn’t be so many wishy washy, lukewarm Braves fans, who follow your example. That’s something to be proud of.

jerry

September 24th, 2009
5:40 am

I’m pretty sure I know who the next manager will be—the best a$$-kisser.

bravesfanforever

September 24th, 2009
7:35 am

I think we need a change in how we do things. If Terry Pendleton is willing to take a new approach, sure I’d like to have him as manager.

The problem with this team is that we have been too reluctant to let the offense do its job. I mean, even when we had the tremendous firepower in the 90’s, Cox would still bunt the man over in the playoffs. It’s no wonder we lost so many world series. I say, “swing away”. Gotta go for it even when you are under the gun.

I would even make replacements based on their offense prowess if they at least had a decent glove. Seems like everything is based on defense and pitching only. I think there has to be a balance. You can’t have all of one thing or you won’t win as much–especially when it really counts. Cox annually has at least one non-hitter on the club who he insists on parading out there. This year we had several earlier this season. At one point we had three players in the line up in June who were hitting around .200 or less.

Love Cox and he deserves the Hall of Fame, but I’d like to see a change.

Nativebird

September 24th, 2009
8:29 am

Terry Francona, who’s the second-best manager in baseball? You’re kidding yourself.

Zach Hurst

September 24th, 2009
8:34 am

Brian Snitker anyone?

Chef montuer

September 24th, 2009
8:50 am

Bobby Valentine

Mike Wilhelm

September 24th, 2009
9:52 am

Joe Torre. 1982 all over again.

Andy J.

September 24th, 2009
10:04 am

Freddy Gonzales anyone? History with the organization and a proven manager in Florida.
Just not Ned Yost or TP.

Could Yost succeed Cox as Braves manager?

September 24th, 2009
10:27 am

[...] course there’s other names tied to Cox and the Braves organization.  But I could see Yost joining the staff next year and following that up as the manager who has to [...]

All I'm Saying Is...

September 24th, 2009
10:52 am

In my view, Braves next manager needs to have already been a ML manager having already led a ML team so that would eliminate Tony Gwynn (who I love), TP, Dave Duncan, Jose Oquendo, and any other bench coach for Boston or Minnesota.

Who then?

Bobby Valentine—heck no. His ego wouldn’t fit within Turner Field anyway.

Joe Torre—he is not going to leave L.A. for Atlanta especially if they make a playoff run particularly given all that off the field endorsement money he rakes in by managing in the second largest media market in the world.

Ned Yost has zero people skills and a lousy track record so no thanks.

Marlins would be fools to let Freddy Gonzales go especially to a team in the same division so unlikely he would be available though he would be my first choice as he is great and clearly knows how to work with young talent.

Willie Randolph would be a good choice. Despite how things ended in NYC, he’s experienced, won rings as a player and as a coach, and was initially successful in NYC and in handling the largest media market in the world.

Don Baylor is experienced, was hosed in Denver, was a coach under BC some years back, and was instrumental in motivating Chipper to step up his game when Don was our hitting coach. I think he could be added while keeping most of BC’s current staff (if that’s something the team wants to do) particularly our pitching coach (although TP might leave which is something we could easily deal with).

I also think Larry Bowa is someone we should consider. He flamed out in Philly due to being too intense but is the perfect balance to Joe Torre in LA and no doubt has learned a few things since his Philly tenure ended. He might have just the attitude we need to push our guys and if we kept most of the staff, then they could balance out his intensity.

If we did take on someone with zero ML managerial experience, I’d say go with Tony Gwynn.

Fed up

September 24th, 2009
11:43 am

Ned Yost was probably fired bedcause he didn’t kiss the right butts in upper management, but he took a nothing team and was headed to the playoffs when he was canned. The Brewers haven’t done much of anything since he left

Chris

September 24th, 2009
12:27 pm

I will say the same name I have been saying for 3 years…Willie Randolph. What an amazing guy to have following Cox. He got a raw deal in New York and what better way to stick it to the Mets every year.

kevin Elrod

September 24th, 2009
1:55 pm

Enter your comments here
Please tell me why Ron Gardenhire is the best manager in Baseball. I honestly don’t know anything about the guy.

Ed Glennon

September 24th, 2009
4:24 pm

Terry Pendleton will do for the Braves what Tyrone Willingham did for Notre Dame and Washington. A nice guy way over his head.

Joe Fan

September 24th, 2009
4:57 pm

The Braves should go ahead and announce a manger in waiting like some of the college football teams are doing now. Fans could then be excited or mad and Bobby would have someone there to keep him on his toes.

sean carver

September 24th, 2009
7:26 pm

Enter your comments here what about one of the most favorite braves in the history of the franchise? DALE MURPHY!!!

sean carver

September 24th, 2009
7:30 pm

HOW ABOUT glen Hubbard?

sean carver

September 24th, 2009
7:34 pm

how about BUCK SHOWALTER or however u spell his name.

Joe

September 25th, 2009
9:17 am

TP has been a horrible hitting coach and is just not cut out to follow a legend like Cox. How about Ned Yost? He didn’t get a fair shake in Milwakee and certainly would bring fire in the belly mentality to the Braves that Cox has been lacking in his later years…

braves70

September 25th, 2009
10:32 am

Maybe we can all be right if the Braves turn to the College of Coaches used by the Cubs in the early 60’s. They had rotating managers. Every few weeks another coach would become the manager for a short period of time until it was some other coach’s turn to take over. It was a total failure with the Cubs but everything old is new again. Ha!

HAL

September 25th, 2009
1:22 pm

Enter your comments here this wasnt tough for me anyone at eXCEPT PENDOLTON GAWD HES A SUCKY HIITING COACH WE DONT FIRE WE PROMOTE that happens ive watched my last braves game after 50 some years

Steve

September 25th, 2009
2:36 pm

How About Ned Yost?

Mr. 5000

September 25th, 2009
2:59 pm

What about Leo Mazzone? He was the Braves pitching coach during the phenomenal days of the 90’s and was instrumental in their success.

Craig

September 26th, 2009
2:52 pm

Ned Yost is the only person the braves should even consider to replace Cox. He has worked with Bobby in the past, has a similar managerial style, and has proven himself as a manager. I can’t see why the brewers let him go. GET YOST!!!

Sam

September 26th, 2009
4:14 pm

How about John Rocker? Now that would be some exciting baseball!

ROB

September 26th, 2009
4:56 pm

I think they should look outside the system. I say they should talk to Don Mattingly. Don would be a great fit to help get the young guys hitting better. Anybody from inside the organazation would have to much pressure on them.

sam the chotch

September 26th, 2009
5:23 pm

i would smoke poll to have either Pendelton or Mr.October aka The Lemmor as manager! Bobby is the best ever though all time!

oconee dawg 66

September 26th, 2009
5:58 pm

Ned Yost looks to be the best choice to me.

The Truth

September 26th, 2009
6:14 pm

How about Dave Brundage, the Gwinnett Manager? Bobby Valentine or Clint Hurdle? Someone with experience. Maybe Ned Yost.

letterhighfast

September 26th, 2009
6:37 pm

Enter your comments hereMy choice is Fredi Gonzalez! He is awesome in every way!

Jerry W.

September 26th, 2009
7:04 pm

I’m sorry guys but we need someone with fire in their behinds — a burning desire to win, not someone like Bobby Cox and his laissez faire attitude. Get someone from NY or NJ man — geographically (not necessarily from the Yankees or Mets clubs). I am tired of the good old boys scratching each others backs — players and staff alike. Get a tough guy from the NY area who will not stand the pussyfooting that goes around in the Braves’ clubhouse. Get some guy from Brooklyn or Queens who will not tolerate mediocrity. Braves fans deserve better.

Bill

October 6th, 2009
11:14 am

I say Buck Showalter, lets see what he can do with real talent

Johnny

October 26th, 2009
9:20 am

I pick CHRIS CHAMBLISS the excellent choice for Brave Manager for 2011. I hope David Justice, Ron Gant, Bobby Bonilla, Javier Lopez to join Chambliss`s coaching staff. Greg Maddux is top candidate for Brave pitching coach for 2011.

Nolalsas

January 26th, 2010
11:58 am

this may be kinda crazy.. but i think willie randolph could do a good job for about 10 years or so.

Ken

March 31st, 2010
12:52 pm

I don’t believe in cloning, but in this case lets swab Bobby’s cheek. As a prerequisite, we need someone who will sit at the end of the dugout and encourage the batter after every pitch.

David

May 19th, 2010
1:58 pm

JOE TORRE, he is the man!

Peter Calculator

June 21st, 2010
12:09 am

Cool post – thanks a lot m8 Criminal Lawyer is a redundancy

Brave fan $ life

July 3rd, 2010
7:50 pm

Why not Chipper Jones? Player-Manager, or if he retires, just the Manager.

Bob Miller

July 20th, 2010
3:21 am

The man who lives and breathes baseball for the Braves. It would be a bold move but, I think Chipper Jones should follow Bobby Cox asmanager of the Atlanta Braves.

keith

September 18th, 2010
11:49 am

I have heard alot of choices TP Isnt a good one! I am thinking Leo Mazzone! proven winner and Braves history! get rid of Pendleton and hire the rangers ex hitting coach now with the cubs!

keith

September 18th, 2010
11:50 am

LEO! LEO! LEO! LEO!…NUFF SAID

keith

September 18th, 2010
11:56 am

WHAT ABOUT LEMKE?? OR GREG OLSON? I LIKE RYNE SANDBERG!! HE WILL NEVER HAVE SUCCESS IN CHICAGO