5 reasons UGA should be concerned about Joe Cox

Joe Cox: Is he just a workout wonder? (AJC photo by Brant Sanderlin)

Georgia's Joe Cox: A Saturday hero or just a workout wonder? (AJC photo by Brant Sanderlin)

1. He last threw a pass that mattered Sept. 30, 2006.

2. The Colorado comeback victory over which he presided in relief in 2006 came against a team of Buffaloes that finished 2-10. The victories were over Texas Tech and Iowa State.

3. He has no Knowshon Moreno to make play-action fakes work to maximum effect. Maybe Caleb King will assume such stature. Then again, maybe not.

4. He doesn’t throw the deep ball like Matthew Stafford, which is why he spent most of three seasons backing up Matthew Stafford. (The longest of Cox’s 33 collegiate completions — 34 yards.) And Georgia’s best player is A.J. Green, who does his best work on deep balls.

5. His first start of 2009 will come on the road, which is a major thing for a quarterback. As Mark Richt said, by way of explaining his program’s success in opposing venues: “It all starts with the quarterback.” And Cox has started one collegiate game.

(OK, OK! Before you get all riled up — too late, I fear — please be advised that this correspondent has compiled a companion list: “5 reasons Georgia shouldn’t be worried about Joe Cox.” On this issue I am, as they say, covering the waterfront.)

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Ostrich Racer

August 25th, 2009
4:43 am

Good points, all. The better question may be, is he tough enough to bounce back, if things go badly in Oklahoma? I think so, becaue I think the maturity is there. Let’s hope we don’t have to find out.

honest_abe

August 25th, 2009
5:01 am

1. this is a valid point. but in his defense he’s been going against georgia’s number one defense for the last several years in practice so i don’t think the speed of the game is going to confuse him.

2. regardless of what record colorada finished with that year, he was put into a tough situation. the dawgs were struggling that day for whatever reason. early start, bad team, complacent crowd, the buffalo… whatever, he got the team to respond when he did enter and he pulled out a great clutch win.

3. i really believe richard samuel is going to turn some heads this year. his biggest fault last year was the fact that he was a little kid (16? which nobody seems to mention) and he fumbled the ball too frequently. he’s had one more year to mature and now he’s dead focused on holding on to that rock. the rest of the sec had better watch out!

4. he didn’t start over matthew stafford because matthew stafford was a #1 pick in the nfl type of talent. chad pennington has a noodle of an arm but he’s still effective. the key to throwing it to aj is throwing it high. he’ll go get it over anybody.

5. cmr has worked with several diff qb’s during his tenure at uga but has still managed to compile an impressive road record. cox will be fine.

reasons why he’ll succeed……

1. a revamped defense. a dominating defensive line anchored by a bevy of nfl type defensive tackles. a speedy secondary. and some monsters at linebacker
2. richard samuel. see above.
3. most importantly the offensive line. stafford didn’t have the luxury of camping back in the pocket and looking for the open reciever. expect cox to have this luxury this year.

georgia will surprise alot of people this year. btw… are they still considered to be a surprise when everyone expects them to be “the” surprise?

BarkingBulldawg

August 25th, 2009
5:37 am

Caleb King? Really, Bradley??!! REALLY??!!! Caleb King will be third string when he returns (and won’t be moving up the charts), so why don’t we focus our attention on the best two RB’s we have, Samuel and Thomas.

Thanks.

merbertmoover

August 25th, 2009
5:49 am

man i hope joe cox dont get the chicken pox, you know what im sayin?

Alabamadawg

August 25th, 2009
6:16 am

Joe Cox will do fine, nothing to worry about…except those ridicious kick-offs !!! But, having said that, I do hope Logan Gray and Thomas get some serious playing time, and I think Oklahoma State’s defense will allow that. I’m pretty confident the dawgs will win this by two or more scores…

T

August 25th, 2009
6:18 am

There are many reasons why he has rode the bench thus far !

Dobearsbare

August 25th, 2009
6:25 am

The guy is a winner. He’ll be fine. I’d like to compare him to John Lastinger, but I think a more apt comparison comes from outside the program: George Godsey.

BigMike

August 25th, 2009
6:30 am

Bradley, It doesn’t matter who we play, if Caleb isn’t back there, and this is Cox’s first start since 06. Get this in the rest of the country’s head, we are UGA, in the SEC, and we win ! People forget Cox was ranked the 6th best QB coming out of high school, he sit behind DJ Shockley, who was ranked #2 coming out of high school. Then behind Stafford who was #1 by some, and #2 by others. He went on to become your #1 draft choice. As far as the deep ball is concerned, Joe Montana didn’t throw the deep ball like Stafford….and on the final note, Richard Samuel, Carlton Thomas, and Shaun Chapas will keep Defenses honest, and did you forget AJ isn’t the only big target anymore. Do the names Marlon Brown, and Orson Charles, plus a beefed up Aaron White sound familiar? Bradley go talk to the boys at the APD, I’m sure they left you one doughnut to talk football.

65Dawg

August 25th, 2009
6:37 am

As for the deep ball, Buck Belue couldn’t either; all Cox needs to do is be accurate, which Stafford was sporadic at best.

Dobearsbare

August 25th, 2009
6:39 am

People saying the same types of things about Godsey, who backed up Joe Hamilton for 2-3 years before getting his chance. I think this is a very similar situation, but Cox has better receivers, and by some accounts he’ll be playing by one of the top offensive lines in the country. People are going to be surprised, though they shouldn’t be. The guy never lost a game in high school.

PTC DAWG

August 25th, 2009
6:42 am

CMR has done a pretty good job Coaching QB’s….

[...] Mark Bradley goes fishing with Joe Cox. [...]

Spike

August 25th, 2009
6:52 am

Underestimate him at your own risk, Dawg haters!

jp

August 25th, 2009
6:59 am

i’m really thinking Joe Cox will be more successful than Stafford. He looks like he has the “it” quality.
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87dawg

August 25th, 2009
7:02 am

Sure, Stafford could throw the deep ball. The problem was, he rarely hit his receiver. Strength, yes. Accuracy, no. Big no, in fact. Smart kid, great QB, good ball player and leader but if you’re going to talk about the deep ball being a differnce maker you have to accept the fact that Stafford was not an accurate deep passer. I loved when he did but he missed way more than he hit. And everyone knew it was coming. I know I kept hoping for more across the middle patterns. Those worked way more than the deep and were good for 10 plus most every time.

I am not privvy to practice and only have what I have seen in limited playing time for Cox but I have faith in his abilities. He’s been there for years and has seen some good ones. Let’s hope he is a s smart and together as he seems.

chazzo

August 25th, 2009
7:02 am

Your right. Stafford threw that deep ball (50 yards further than his receiver). Stafford never really had a good touch pass. He wasn’t so great at throwing the fade. Of course, everyone knew that was the call, every time UGA got to the five. Great QB… He wasn’t perfect.

Cox didn’t singlehandedly win the Colorado game. Southerland, Milner, Mosaquioi and Lumpkin (not to mention the linemen) had a whole lot to do with it. He did come in as a freshman, commanded respect from his teammates, and executed well.

He’s a winner. He broke all of Chris Leaks records back in high school. He has never lost a game. He would have started at some schools as a freshman; now he’s had five years of college coaching and some game experience. Whether he becomes a surprise late runner in the Heisman race or if he just finds ways not to lose remains to be seen. Ultimately, he inspires confidence and likes to win.

Paddy

August 25th, 2009
7:03 am

Okie St will be in trouble by the 2nd qt of this game. When we cause turnovers and TD’s from everywhere, Joe Cox and his guys will just purr right along. Alot of long faces will be leaving that new stadium. Wish I could be there to see it in person. UGA by 10.

chazzo

August 25th, 2009
7:08 am

I love our O-line. Those guys are fighters. To say we have the best line in the country as some have claimed is far fetched. WE do have the best O-line coach in the country. They are still young. They will be deeper, though. Again, I am not taking anything away from those guys. They are deserving of accolades.

Tim Tebow

August 25th, 2009
7:09 am

Does he need practice?
we talkin bout practice man.
not a game…
practice??

Mr. Mang

August 25th, 2009
7:13 am

Mark Bradley the new Terrence Moore – antagonistic shock journalism just to try to move the meter. Be careful Mark or the powers that be will oblige you with the same fate as TM. Let’s just squash all this negativity before the season starts.

Bobby McGreevey

August 25th, 2009
7:20 am

He’ll lead the team to 10 wins a la John Lastinger following Buck Belue and Herschel Walker.

Experience Factor

August 25th, 2009
7:26 am

Let’s hope Joe Cox performs better than Joe Tereshinski when Stafford was a freshman.–Just beat Oklahoma State with solid defense and not a bunch of turnovers.

GEORGIA97

August 25th, 2009
7:28 am

MB is a total pickle sniffer. “He doesn’t throw the deep ball like Matthew Stafford”. Are you kidding me? Stafford’s deep ball was just awful as he was always over throwing his receivers. Did you happen to see he did the same thing for the Lions on Saturday on a receiver that had NO ONE around him. Go have another bowl of stupid for breakfast.

GeezusDawg

August 25th, 2009
7:28 am

Don’t forget, Bobo couldn’t throw the deep ball either …. To be fair, Bobo was an exceptional short, accurate passer and I think that may help Cox as much as anything.

Col. Kurtz

August 25th, 2009
7:28 am

What are we doing talking fractions. man? You can’t win at football with fractions!

JB

August 25th, 2009
7:32 am

TWO WORDS: Buck Blue ( sp?) although he had Herschel, the greatest RB who ever lived and he had Erk’s defense, Cox and Blue are a lot alike. Take care of the ball, leaders, smart and just athletic enough to lull you asleep and then BAM, makes a great play…..more than anything, they are both WINNERS. I’ll take Joe Cox to battle. He has heart and Guts….GATA

JJ

August 25th, 2009
7:32 am

1. The same can be said for Alabama, USC, and to a lesser extent LSU. All are top 10 teams that no one is doubting. Reason? It’s not a big deal. Is cox a ? mark? Sure. But question marks don’t always mean a negative.

2. What does it matter that Colorado sucked that year? Cox came up big in a pressure situation. As a RS Freshman no less.

3. Caleb King? Really. Are you THAT far behind in the news? I know you NEVER show up at practice but you could AT LEAST read your colleague’s work every now and then. The depth chart is currently Richard Samuel, then Carlton Thomas. King will, in all likelihood, be 3rd team when the season starts.

4. Valid point. Although last I checked the deep ball was a very low percentage play (even for Stafford) so what is UGA really losing? They can substitute in more high percentage plays (and Joe is more accurate than Stafford by all accounts) and hopefully control the clock better.

5. Again, valid point. But I feel better with CMR’s success on the road and with the OSU Defense sucking far worse than UGA’s did last year. That’s tough to do.

Jon Hughes

August 25th, 2009
7:35 am

well at least by “covering the waterfront” you cant be wrong…….right?

Steve in Blairsvile

August 25th, 2009
7:40 am

Joe Cox will be fine because the best O line in the country will give him time to read the Athens Banner Herald before he looks for a receiver. Joe Cox will be fine because a stable of ponies will average 4 plus yards a carry. The Dawgs year will rise and fall on the Willie Martinez D. They gave up 35+ points 5 times last year. You can not do that and expect to win anywhere except the WAC. Get the D back in shape and this team will suprise a lot of folks.

Doug

August 25th, 2009
7:41 am

Let’s talk about 5th year seniors starting for the first time. Anyone remember Matt Flynn? A fifth year senior who started (for the first time) and won a share of the national championship for LSU in 2003.

Five Reasons Joe Cox is better:
1-Better accuracy. Joe Cox is much more accurate than Stafford. The winning touchdown pass against Colorado was a perfectly threaded pass.
2-Ok, so Stafford can throw 80 yds and Cox only 60. What good is it to throw long balls when they are always 5 yards past the receiver. Stafford couldn’t spell touch pass, let alone throw one. Cox will through many “over-the-shoulders” for completions.
3-Stafford was the heralded rookie with a lot of behind the scenes lobbying. He was destined to be the starter and it didn’t matter how well Joe Cox played.
4-After 5 years there may be only one person who knows this offense better than Joe Cox…
5-He has emerged as a teammate and leader…perhaps more-so than Stafford. The team already raves about his leadership.

I, for one, have always thought Joe Cox the better passer. I think he is a better leader and this year we will find out if he is a better passer.

reebok

August 25th, 2009
7:44 am

yeah, stafford stunk so bad he was only the #1 pick in the nfl draft. to hear you guys ramble on (sorry), joe cox is the superior player who’s been kept down all the seasons by a bum. you guys are weird. cox backed up stafford because he’s not as good as stafford.

Lilburn Dawg

August 25th, 2009
7:45 am

65Dawg and 87dawg are right. Anybody who thinks Stafford was good at throwing the long ball is off their rocker! Yes, well, he could throw it long and hard……he just couldn’t hit his receivers. He wasn’t accurate at all over 15 yards. I’m very anxious to see how he does in the pros…..I don’t think well.

hop

August 25th, 2009
7:47 am

the list of NFL qb’s who did not have a strong arm is limitless:
john unitas,joe montana,fran tarkenton,archie manning,roger stauback to name a few and many of these are in the nfl hall of fame.
david greene did not have a great arm but was a great college qb and led georgia to a SEC CHAMPIONSHIP!
COX has many fine qualites ;leadership(which stafford did not have),very accurate thower,sharp mind who can make a decision in moments notice, as it relates to reading defenses,calling audibles at the line and directing the offense.

dawgs have depth at qb with cox,logan gray and murry.

this is a very focus team that will achieve much this year.

MoDawg

August 25th, 2009
7:48 am

Our best QBs were always game managers. Guys who knew the playbook, knew where their playmakers were going to be and got them the ball. Belue, Bobo, Greene, Shockley, etc.

This year is no different. Cox will lead, manage the game and UGA will win.

I only hope our foes underestimate us. By the time they realize we are for real, we’ll be up by 3 touchdowns.

gtforever

August 25th, 2009
7:50 am

LOL, what an article to write about a young KID! This kid is a WINNER! Period! UGA will be much better this year than EVERYBODY thinks….

JD

August 25th, 2009
7:54 am

Unfortunately, I agree with Bradley.

UGA Grad '08

August 25th, 2009
7:55 am

Good Morning to all,
I don’t normally post during the day but I’ve posted the following below at night and nobody seems to give me a straight answer so here goes again.
Again, if you’re a tech “fan” and want to only come on here and hate on UGA as opposed to actually discussing CFB in a civil manner please answer some of the questions below
When was the last time Tech won their conference? UGA?
When was the last time Tech went to a BCS bowl? UGA?
When was the last time Tech won a major bowl game? (By major I mean the Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, Orange or pre BCS Cotton, to save u some time 1990 does not count since it was the Citrus)
What’s the series record?
How many times has CMR beaten Tech in a row before last year? What about if we include FSU?
How many times has each team finished in the top ten of ANY poll this decade?
What’s the winning percentage of each team this decade?
If you pull for Tech and want to hate on UGA, what personal ties do you have with the actual school.
ACC questions since they’re so underrated and the SEC is so overrated
How many at large BCS bids has each conference received?
How many BCS bowls has each conference won? Compare the ACC’s total BCS wins to UGA’s alone or Mark Richt’s alone.
How many BCS championships has the each conference won?
I know you’ve said time and again how Tech and the ACC are awesome and UGA and the SEC are overrated so I’m sure the correct answers to the questions above will support your argument
For the record I was accepted to Tech and UGA and graduated magna cum laude. I personally know several Tech grads and true fans. They are smart classy people that I respect and admire, or in short nothing like 90% of the Tech posters on here.
It’s really strange how guys like G&G, M, and yellow fuzz never seem to answer these questions. Strange.

jerry

August 25th, 2009
7:58 am

Does anyone know what kind of runner Cox is? Stafford was pretty good.

chazzo

August 25th, 2009
7:58 am

Pickle sniffer is the term of the day!

zdawg8

August 25th, 2009
8:00 am

My grandmother could throw the deep ball better than Stafford. She could not throw near as far, but at least she would probably connect at least once. I remember watching Stafford when he would release one deep, our whole household that was watching the game would just say, “Incomplete”. I can’t believe you guys cannot remember that. He was a #1 pick because he could throw it a quarter mile, not because he could throw an accurate deep ball, or a very catchable ball at all.

Mike

August 25th, 2009
8:02 am

Bradley, You’re getting as bad as Terrence Moore – and that is not a good thing. Pretty soon we will have to start a “Dump Bradley” campaign …

Dawg Turd

August 25th, 2009
8:02 am

Here is the Readers Digest version of Bradley’s article for you illiterate UGA fans – UGA will suck this year and finish 6 – 6. Can you say Music City Bowl? Stock up on the PBR rednecks….gonna be a long season with the red-headed stepchild under center.

AtlantaTruth

August 25th, 2009
8:04 am

Bradley your a complete idiot….do you even watch college football and the players that play in them? Here’s the main reason why we shouldn’t be concerned about Joe Cox….HE WON’T THROW PICK SIXES LIKE STAFFORD USED TO.(no pick six..no loss to Tech last year)AND TECH WOULD STILL BE AN AFTERTHOUGHT TO BANDWAGON FANS LIKE YOU WHO THINK THEY ARE SO GREAT.Please go cover womens NBA basketball and leave college football to someone who actually knows the game.

Mark Bradley

August 25th, 2009
8:06 am

About Caleb King: If any group of fans should know preseason depth charts can and do mislead, it’s Georgia’s. I recall a freshman from Wrightsville was the No. 3 tailback headed to Knoxville 29 years ago. I also recall a freshman from Texas being rated co-No. 3 QB with Blake Barnes in preseason in 2006.

Hairofthedawg

August 25th, 2009
8:10 am

5 reasons the AJC should get a writter that favors a positive UGA perspective. Uh, can only think of one….Mark Bradley

[...] Mark Bradley of the AJC gives five reasons Georgia fans should be worried about new starting quarterback Joe Cox. [...]

jet

August 25th, 2009
8:11 am

I am confident in Joe as our QB, but I do think it is pretty funny that the sign hanging over his head in the photo says, “Rule 7: Ask God For Help”. I wonder if that played into this pic being the one chosen for this entry by Mr. Bradley!?!?!? :) For the record, Greene didn’t have a “Stafford” like arm and things worked out great with him. Cox will be great for this team…….

Voice of Reason

August 25th, 2009
8:12 am

For goodness sake, why don’t we have Mark Bradley coaching instead of Mark Richt! What does Richt know? Mark Bradley is an expert at everything, like his other cronies in his profession, such as the dear departed Terrence Moore. Smart people all. Why o’why didn’t they go into coaching………….

JB

August 25th, 2009
8:13 am

There are 120 some odd Div 1 QB’s. they hall have different strengths and weakness. Joe Cox will NOT roll out and on the run and throw a 50 yard rope that the DB won’t even have time to break on. He will excel at the short to mid range passing game off a lot of play action to keep the chains moving. We had way to many 3 and outs last year which dogged our defense. Joe is a better runner than Stafford. He rolls out and see’s green field, he’ll run for good yardage. Our line will make our average running game better than it is. Marlon Brown and AJ and Charles at TE will give people fits this year. We will be fine.

Go Dawgs

August 25th, 2009
8:18 am

Give the guy a break, it’s not like Stafford threw the deep ball so great. He actually sucked at it, sure he could throw it 80 yards, but that was usually 20 yards to far. Just like this past weekend, overshot a wide open receiver. I think Cox will just fine, a average college QB that will manage the game, keep out of trouble and not cost his team the W.