Bradley’s Buzz: The (split) verdict on Vick’s signing
The newly local reaction
The Philadelphia papers are, if you’ll pardon the expression, abuzz this morning. John Gonzalez of the Inquirer reports that the Eagles’ press corps was stunned by the news.
“And so now Ron Mexico is an Eagle,” Gonzalez writes. “To say it’s a shocking development is a gross understatement. If anyone in town expected this or knew it was happening, they did a good job keeping it a secret. Vick reportedly flew into town Tuesday night and remained undetected until late last evening. That’s a hard thing to pull off. If his football comeback falls through, he has a terrific career ahead of him as a spy.”
This being Vick, there’s no firm consensus. Phil Sheridan of the Inquirer writes: “The Eagles are taking an enormous risk. All that’s at stake is everything owner Jeff Lurie and head coach Andy Reid have ever said about what the franchise stands for, and they have put all of that in the hands of a man who went to prison for murdering dogs. It just isn’t worth it.”
In the Daily News, Rich Hofmann writes about Eagles coach Andy Reid’s announcement of Vick’s addition: “The coach acknowledged that Vick has been on his mind for months and years. He said that Vick got into trouble at about the same time his sons got into trouble, and that he followed Vick’s story from afar and compared it to what his sons were enduring. It was as open and as human as Reid has ever been at an interview podium, and it was clear that not only was this Reid’s decision, first and foremost – but that his personal life opened him to the possibilities.”
Paul Domowitch of the Daily News calls the signing of Vick “a terrific move” and believes: “He was signed for one reason, one word: Wildcat.”
Back to the Inquirer. Amy Worden handles the animal rights angle and, as you’d expect, not every animal-lover in the City of Brotherly Love was ecstatic. Writes Worden: “News that the Eagles had signed quarterback Michael Vick, a convicted animal abuser, was met with swift outrage last night by members of Philadelphia’s animal-welfare community. Many said they were concerned that the move would cast a pall over a state in which animal advocates – led by Gov. [Ed] Rendell, who has three rescue dogs – have fought to improve conditions for dogs, particularly those who suffer in substandard commercial kennels.”
And now to the national press
The headline in Sporting News Today: “Vick Signing Could Be A Super Move By Philadelphia.” If that sounds like a rave review … well, there’s a reason. From Albert Breer’s story comes this quote by an unnamed AFC personnel man: “It’s a tremendous signing. The consensus in the league is that everyone is willing to forgive him.”
Writing for SI.com, Peter King makes this contention: “When Michael Vick would see visitors during his two-year exile from football … one refrain was clear:He had deep regrets over not working hard enough at the quarterback craft during his six-year NFL career, and if he ever got another chance to play in the NFL, he’d work hard to be a good all-around quarterback, not just an electric one.” That in mind, Vick to Philly makes more sense, King writes, “than Vick to almost anywhere else.”
KIng’s SI.com colleague Don Banks makes a key point, however: “Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Vick struggle in the West Coast offense when he tried playing in Atlanta under ex-Falcons offensive coordinator Greg Knapp? Maybe Andy Reid and Marty Mohrninweg’s version in Philly will be a different story with different results, but the inaccurate Vick and the West Coast didn’t look like much of a match in 2005-2006 (35 TDs/20 INTs/54 percent passing).”
For ESPN.com, Chris Mortensen writes a key to the signing was Donovan McNabb: “As McNabb revealed after Thursday night’s preseason opener against the Patriots, he lobbied the Eagles to sign Vick. That’s stability.” (FYI, McNabb once escorted the younger Vick on a recruiting visit to Syracuse.)
Also from the Worldwide Leader: This discouraging word from Matt Mosley. “Anyone remember what happened the last time the Eagles attempted to make a huge splash? Terrell Owens had the one great year, and then he did his best to wreck the team’s locker room. Maybe I’ll change my mind. But right now, I think the Eagles are asking for trouble.”
And, in an interview with Matt Williamson of Scouts Inc., Mosley solicits this response: “I think Michael Vick might automatically become the No. 1 backup in the league.”
On CBSsports.com, Mike Freeman writes that Vick’s arrival is just one more insult to McNabb: “It constantly seems as if the city of Philadelphia and the Eagles organization can’t wait to ship McNabb’s big butt out of town as quickly as possible. Oh, and that’s what the Vick signing means. If you don’t believe that Vick is McNabb’s heir — sooner rather than later — you’re a fool. McNabb is once again being prepped for pasture.”
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Hillbilly Deluxe
August 14th, 2009
9:28 am
He signed; now can we talk about something else?
Remember the kiddos?
August 14th, 2009
9:32 am
I can’t believe the ‘anti Vick’ people out there. The man’s done his time, he deserves a second chance. While i’m glad he’s not a Falcon, i’m glad he’s back in the league since he’s served his debt to society. I mean Dante Stallworth killed a man because of a DUI and he only got 30 days. Vick did a year and a half. Now, letting the ‘hating’ commence. haha
Falcon Fan
August 14th, 2009
9:35 am
I jumped for joy when I saw the news last night that MV was signed. Then I became sad because he signed with a NFC team.
Mark Bradley
August 14th, 2009
9:37 am
Me, I think he landed with a good organization. Me, I think he’ll do fine.
dooley
August 14th, 2009
9:37 am
I think this works both ways, if Vick does good, the eagles have longterm stability at QB or they can trade him next year for a slew of picks. Or, they could trade Mcnabb also next year. Very interesting at the very least. Good Luck MV7
mike4smom
August 14th, 2009
9:44 am
I can’t believe the Eagles signed Vick, not because I am against him playing again, but because he signed with the Eagles. I just moved from Atlanta to Delaware and Delaware is Eagle country. I didn’t like Vick in ATL and now I’ll have to hear about him everyday AGAIN! I’ve been telling everyone I’d never root for the Eagles, now I have one more reason to root against them. Go FALCONS!
Supes
August 14th, 2009
9:45 am
Mark, OK I give you today sir. After today, this better be a NONE story for the AJC.
I fail to see how this has anything to do with ATL sports.
MV is the Eagles’ problem right now. Let the media up in Philly and all the talking heads on ESPN discuss this to death.
We in ATL don’t give a FRAK about MV. About 90% of us have MOVED on. We are ATL FALCONS fans.
We care about the Falcons. Mark, and AJC staff…Write stories about CURRENT FALCONS.
Just damn!
MARION BERRY
August 14th, 2009
9:45 am
WHAT’S THE FUSS ABOUT?
Pez Hilton
August 14th, 2009
9:46 am
Heeeyyyyy Saint Simey!!! Love ya baby!! Toodles!!
Sting 'em Buzz
August 14th, 2009
9:48 am
Remember the kiddos, he has NOT paid his debt to society. He still owes portions of society MILLIONS. Pick a different phrase. He has served his sentence.
Dozer
August 14th, 2009
9:49 am
What difference does this really make? How much is he really going to play? I wonder if McNabb will continue his benevolent tone if he’s hurt or stumbling & there’s a groundswell from the fan base for MV7. Remember how thin-skinned he got when they drafted Kolb? – this only could happen because McNabb got his extension this summer. Reid said last night he sees Vick as a quarterback – so how much can this really matter if McNabb is your No. 1 guy?
Jfreak
August 14th, 2009
9:49 am
I say way to go Vick! You’ve paid your debt “too much” to society and now you can move on with your life. I wish you well and hope your career will now overshadow your life. Good Luck Man! You’ve earned at least that much from this sports fan.
Angus
August 14th, 2009
9:50 am
Huge risk by the Eagles.
I think they should have been in the SB last year – not sure they needed to make much improvement to get back this year – maybe MV is enough to get them over the hump.
On the other hand, this is a powder keg that could blow up in their faces. The Eagles could end up being more adversely affected by MV than the Falcons were. Potentially, the Eagles could lose both McNabb (almost happened last year w/ the Kolb situation) and MV (several scenarios – let’s say parole violation, back to jail) and have that rabid fan base turn on them.
I agree with Phil Sheridan – I don’t see how it’s worth it for the Eagles.
falcon4life
August 14th, 2009
9:52 am
I support Vick and I hope it works out for him. As a QB he is a long way from beating out McNabb although, one year as the backup and next year there could be a world class battle for the starting QB job in Philly! Now let’s stop talking about Vick and talk ALOT more about our Falcons!
Glenn
August 14th, 2009
9:52 am
He will be a situational qb . I personally think , career wise , he could have found a better fit . Michael Vick will be in a 10 play a game package . Feeley/Kolb will still be the primary backup . My guess is Vick would be the number 3 & Feeley will probably be traded . Falcons should look at him . Vick didn’t flourish in the WCO for the Falcons but it won’t matter . He won’t be running the offense . He will only need to learn the plays in his ” package ” .
Proud Black Man
August 14th, 2009
9:53 am
I appreciate MV7 because of his talent and ability on the football field. He is not my hero. He made a mistake and he paid for it dearly. As a black man, I do want to see him succeed because traditionally black men who dare to succeed are required to negotiate numerous obstacles. My grand kids are jumping for joy at his return. Its because MV7 is so exciting to watch.
This is also a learning tool for them. They are learning that there are consequences for doing things that are wrong in our society. They also are learning that you can overcome mistakes and achieve if given a chance. If MV7 fails, then so be it. The key word here is CHANCE.
richtfan
August 14th, 2009
9:54 am
i would have banned him the entire year based on the lies he told the commissioner and his team owner. And all of you who think he’s paid his debt to society conveniently forgot that he should have been brought up on state charges by the state of Virginia but was shown MERCY instead. So, all of you who say he’s done his time, you’re only partially right. He’s done federal time, but he hasn’t paid his debt to those in Virginia. That time should have been tacked on to whatever he did at Leavenworth. And the league would have been justified in keeping him out. Playing in the nfl is not a right of some sort. it’s a privilege, and it’s one that he had not earned back.
Good Luck
August 14th, 2009
9:55 am
Vick’s game has always been dependent on his speed and elusiveness. He’s never really developed into a consistent passer. I wonder how much of his speed and cuts will have deteriorated with his increasing age and time off from football? While I wish him well, I hope the Falcons pile drive him into the turf on December 6th. I am also eternally grateful that he couldn’t get his act together, because that led to our drafting Matt Ryan.
joe
August 14th, 2009
10:00 am
To Remember the Kiddos: The man doesn’t deserve anything. He paid hes penance to society for breaking a law. That’s said and done but has nothing to do with his reinstatement to the league or anything else for that matter.
crimsonice
August 14th, 2009
10:04 am
As a former Falcons ticket holder during Vick era, I will be in the dome Dec 6th with my #7 Vick Falcons jersey on waving an Eagles flag…GO EAGLES and welcome back Michael!!!! I hope you run all over the Falcons!!! Whose laughing now??!!
Hamad Meander
August 14th, 2009
10:07 am
I think the most egregious statement in this article is that MV7 admits to “not working hard enough at the quarterback craft” during his time with the Falcons. That makes me mad. Arthur Blank made Vick the highest paid NFL player at the time, and he didn’t work very hard for the money.
That being said, I’m over it. We now have a better team in Atlanta. Michael – I wish you the best of luck, but I most importantly wish that you dedicate every ounce of your effort to making your life a better one.
Kate
August 14th, 2009
10:08 am
EVERYONE CHECK OUT VICK’S VIDEO on YOUTUBE AT THE YOUNG JEEZY CONCERT!!!
Doesnt look redeemed to me,,,,,,and notice “THAT WORD”
Animal Lover!!!! Mike Vick hater!!!
August 14th, 2009
10:09 am
You people are unreal!!! You obviously don’t own or care about aminals!!! To let someone who knew what they were doing was wrong and against the law..but no its ok for him to make millions of dollars and just like nothing ever happened!! If he was a person in the real world, no one would let him come back to his job. He should have been put in a ring and forced to fight til he was dead!!!!! Animals can’t speak for themselves, but everyone who is on his side..go to hell. Mike Vick–YOU WILL GET WHATS COMING TO YOU IN THE END.
Well.....
August 14th, 2009
10:10 am
Congrats Philly, You know have 2 QB’s that everyone (except you) hates.
midnite
August 14th, 2009
10:11 am
So Vick admits he didn’t give a care about improving as a QB when he was with the Falcons. That was obvious at the time. So now he says he wants to learn and grow as a QB with the Eagles. Show us Mike, that you have matured, enough with foolishness. You now have your second chance, make to best of it. GO FALCONS!
Powder Springs Jacket
August 14th, 2009
10:12 am
113 more days to go!!!!! I got my tickets this morning!!
Tell It Like It Is
August 14th, 2009
10:14 am
Animal Lover!!!! Mike Vick hater!!!
Do you go to church on Sunday? You need Jesus or a good shrink my friend. Get some help before you go postal.
midnite
August 14th, 2009
10:14 am
Why do you “Victors” hate the Falcons? He is the one that screwed himself. If he wasn’t such a liar the Falcons might have stood by him.
Bama Aaron
August 14th, 2009
10:16 am
Mark I do hope this is your last blog about this subject. I never liked him in Atlanta and after what he did I don’t think he deserves any 2nd chance back in the league. But he’s Philadelphia’s problem now so let’s talk about something better….. like the Braves upcoming series with the Phillies!
FreeVick!
August 14th, 2009
10:17 am
If Vick were a white man, he would be in the league, as a starting QB right now, and wouldn’t have done any prison time. Roger Goodell tries to keep the African-American players down–like he did with Donte’ Stalloworth.
T-Bone
August 14th, 2009
10:18 am
Vick is not an Eagle — he’s a wildcat!!. The Eagles just punched their ticket to the Super Bowl.
Mark Bradley
August 14th, 2009
10:18 am
Oddly enough, I’ve just finished writing something about the Phillies and the Braves.
Evil Richt 2009 S.E.C. World Tour: "Banned in Columbus"
August 14th, 2009
10:19 am
If I were an editor, I would bar my reporters from using the word “outrage” as one of the Philly media people did in describing the reaction of animal rights community. It’s much too overused by the press.
Mark Bradley
August 14th, 2009
10:20 am
As a card-carrying member of the media, I’m outraged by that suggestion, Evil Richt.
Pago Flyer
August 14th, 2009
10:21 am
You can be pretty sure there won’t be any stray dogs around that stadium! Pretty funny..
me
August 14th, 2009
10:22 am
f… you all !!!! We will kill this year ! Go birds !!!
mike28212
August 14th, 2009
10:24 am
When I read what Peter King wrote, I became aggravated. It frustrates me as a Falcon fan before, during and after the Vick years that the guy didn’t apply himself fully to his craft. It’s nice that he realizes this now but that doesn’t change the fact that didn’t put forth full effort while he was a Falcon.
Mangum
August 14th, 2009
10:28 am
Please to not compare Vick to TO. TO is a baby and a media hog. Vick was never a cancer in the locker room or went out of his way to get media attention, he often shied away form it. Matt Mosley is an idiot. What Vick did was wrong and stupid, but I don’t see how he will wreck Philly’s locker room like TO did.
ThaMan
August 14th, 2009
10:28 am
We will see if he has redeemed himself. Everyone deserves chances. Remember that forgiveness is the greatest virtue. If the people don’t want it to happen, they’ll vote with their pocketbooks. I personally think he has a powerful, but highly inaccurate arm. All he can do is run. Perfect fit for a town like Philly.
MiltonDawg
August 14th, 2009
10:29 am
Laughing hysterically to the people who think Vick is going to change the NFL. He was never that great to begin with. GET A CLUE PEOPLE!!
stendec
August 14th, 2009
10:29 am
BE KIND AJC CENSORS: (CENSORED) Michael (CENSORED) is a (CENSORED) (CENSORED) (CENSORED)! Always will be. No matter what kind of uniform he wears! The (CENSORED) took big bucks from Falcons then (CENSORED) teammates, organization and fans. Did (CENSORED) not? In Philly? Who gives (CENSORED)? Philly only a (CENSORED) surburb of Detroit anyway! May (CENSORED) be (CENSORED) with (CENSORED). There. I said it. Simply cannot be any plainer than that. Thanks you (have to be polite to censors).
Reid Adair
August 14th, 2009
10:29 am
Well, when media members in your own new city are referring to you as “Ron Mexico,” that can’t be good.
But, hey. They offered, and the former #7 decided to accept. It’s for the Eagles and him to deal with now.
Thankfully.
Mac
August 14th, 2009
10:32 am
I’m more happy there’s not a fat, injured Dorsey on our sideline, riding a stationary bike, while Andre Woodson holds a clipboard and watches Chris Redman out on the field. Thomas Dimitroff and Smitty will always be our MVPs.
Glenn
August 14th, 2009
10:34 am
I keep reading what a big risk signing Mikey was for the Eagles . You know there is a reason Philly has won like a 11 games every year for the last dozen years , in what has been arguably the hardest division in football , and the Falcons can’t win in back to back seasons . Mike Vick isn’t going to replace Donovan McNabb . McNabb is being paid like a king for the next two years . Mike Vick signed a two year deal . He will make around a mil this year & 5 next year . Guess what . The deal is really a one year deal for a million . They will put in a package this season for him to spread defenses & will only play a handful of plays a game . He will be no threat to DM . If he screws up they are only out a million . If he does well , Vick will help them win & have the option to play with them next season in a similar package or the Eagles can trade him for picks or a position of need . This is a good move for Philly .
DawginLex
August 14th, 2009
10:34 am
The fact that Tony Dungy is mentoring him gives me hope that he is on a new and right path.
I wish him well.
Gravy Train
August 14th, 2009
10:38 am
Vick should be booed. He, like any other man, should have to earn back the respect of his peers and fans. Forgiving him as a person is truly the right thing to do. That’s what Jesus taught us. But as a player on the grid iron vindication and boos are fair game.
As a side note, I’ve never seen as much racism since OJ got away with murder. How in the world can you turn a blind eye to the lack of character or intelligence of a man because you share the same skin color? Why do people perpetuate ignorance and stereotypes and then blame other races for it? I wont boo Vick because he’s black. I will boo him because he used his money and influence to corrupt this franchise and the minds of children who looked up to him.
Now that he’s in Philly, does that mean he will actually learn to read coverages? Will he actually spend time in the film room? Will he spend more time working on his mechanics than he does trying to look good with panty hose on his head?
I wish him well as a man. Thug life is no life at all. I hope he never forgets the pain and isolation he says he felt in prison. Maybe that will help him to choose his friends and activities more wisely.
Mark C.
August 14th, 2009
10:46 am
I think Mike Freeman is onto something. McNabb is a good QB, but he has a serious set of rabbit ears. How many bad games can he have before he starts listening to the people calling for Vick to replace him. He got benched for a half last year and didn’t handle it well. The Eagles drafted Kolb with a high pick a few years ago and he didn’t handle that well. He says he’s not threatened, but I don’t buy it.
Hamad Meander
August 14th, 2009
10:47 am
Magnum – there is a difference between T.O. and MV7. T.O. completely dedicates his efforts to his craft of being an awesome wide receiver, even at an age when most players are slowing down. The dude is a physical speciman and can catch just about everything. He did not come about this naturally – HE WORKED VERY HARD. He came out of high school at 6-3, 180 lbs, lanky and skinny, and hit the weights and worked hard to become the freak of nature he is now in his 14th NFL season.
Lank
August 14th, 2009
10:51 am
The revenge from last year’s game in philly will be even sweeter now
55
August 14th, 2009
10:58 am
Wish him well. I have mixed feelings about him.
Dislike That: He didn’t study hard while here. The smaller off the field stuff. Ticked that he did that to dogs. What he did to the franchise.
Like That: He played hard on the field. Brought a lot of excitement to the city and franchise.
Mixed: On how good of a quarterback he was or will be.
FALCONS SORRY
August 14th, 2009
10:58 am
ALL HATERS! BEWARE PHILADELPHIA! THERE IS A NEW KING IN TOWN! AND HE IS TAKING OVER! I HOPE YOU ENJOYED YOUR TIME AS QUARTERBACK MCNABB BECAUSE THE EAGELS HAVE A NEW STARTING QUARTERBACK WHO WILL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO WIN A SUPPER BOWL AND THAT IS SOMETHING YOU COULD NEVER DO BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE TALENT OR THE SPEED OR THE STRENGTH OF MV7! MVP THAT IS! YOU CAN GO HOME AND CRY IN YOUR CAMPBELL CHUNKY SOUP BECAUSE THE COMPETITION FOR 2009 EAGELS STARTING QB IS OVER MCNABB! ITS OVER! YOU HAD YOUR RUN AND YOU COULDNT GET THE JOB DONE AND NOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET PASSED BY A NEWER AND FASTER AND BETTER MODEL! UPGRADE ALL THE WAY! MAYBE WHEN YOU GET CUT MCNABB YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK FOR AUTHUR BLANK SINCE HE WILL SPEND THE REST OF HIS SORRY BACK STABBING LIFE TRYING TO REPLACE THE FRANCHISE HE LOST WHEN HE MADE THE MISTAKE OF LETTING MIKE VICK GO TO JAIL FOR NO REASON! JUST WATCH YOUR BACK AROUND BLANK D! TOO BAD SO SAD MCNABB!
Paul H
August 14th, 2009
10:58 am
I agree with Kiddos AND Joe. The man has paid what he owes. Does that mean he “deserves” something as priviledged as playing in the NFL? NO. However, if the NFL has granted him the priviledge of playing in the league again and a team has offered him a job, he has the right to accept that offer.
Mike
August 14th, 2009
11:00 am
Since he is now a Philly Eagle…can the Atlanta media stop reporting about him? Just a thought…we do STILL have a team here.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
August 14th, 2009
11:04 am
McNabb slapped in the face one more time. I think it will really payoff for the Eagles this year. Karma is a b**ch baby.
pollywannacracker
August 14th, 2009
11:04 am
If Jesus was a hypocrite like all of his so called followers, Mike Vick would be in an Octagon w/ Pits snapping at him w/ “Civilized” animal loving frothing from the mouth for more blood. The detractors are the same people crying because Obama is in office, thinks that Latinos are the cancer of this nation & nobody earned anything in this nation but them & all is not forgiven unless by their standards. You losers, morons, bigots & rascist get a clue. You don’t run squat, this is not just “Your country” (Latinos actually have more right to the SW U.S. than you do) & you don’t dictate how a man makes a living. I hate the Klan but I don’t care how they make money or where they work, they’ve been running the state of GA since colonial times.
SimpleDawg
August 14th, 2009
11:13 am
To Proud Black Man:
Thanks for a rational explanation of why you hope he succeeds. I can roll with that.
Personally, I’m ambivalent to whether he succeeds or fails. I’m disgusted with his acts of commission ( his criminal enterprise, passing STD’s to unsuspecting women, his division of the Falcon locker room and fan base, his arrogance in denying his culpability, and the indignant manner in which he conducted himself leading up to his incarceration ) and with his acts of omission ( his lack of commitment to improving his skills as an NFL QB, his lack of regard for his position as a team leader, and his failure as a role model for the young people who watched his every move ). He was both boon and bane for the Falcons and the city of Atlanta.
All of that aside, he is now an Eagle….an enemy of the Falcons, and he is in our way to the Super Bowl. If he’s standing on the track when the train comes through, he’s going down.
TampaGator
August 14th, 2009
11:25 am
I can’t wait until Vick returns with Philly because the Atlanta “sports fans” will once again prove themselves to be the worst in ALL of sports…as they will probably wear Vick Philly jerseys and scream with suppport every time has does something on the field…even though it is against the Falcons. You don’t go to any field in Chicago, Philly, NY, Boston and here any local fan pull for any former player on the field. They may applaud him before the game, but would never pull against the home team during the game. Watch, the fans will go crazy in the Dome every time Vick does something agains the Falcons. As I said, the most uniformed and worst fans in all of sports thrive in Atlanta football, baseball, and basketball stadiums and arenas. It is embarrassing to the city.
TampaGator
August 14th, 2009
11:26 am
That should be “hear any local fan”….
TampaGator
August 14th, 2009
11:29 am
FREE VICK…give me a break. That is an old story now. I guess this country will never elect a black man as President either. Vick going to jail had nothing to do with the color of his skin, and neither did his suspension from football. And Stallworth KILLED a man while driving drunk….oh, he is a black man…big deal.
NRBQ
August 14th, 2009
11:29 am
Much ado about nothing.
He’ll get hurt before the Eagles come to town.
TampaGator
August 14th, 2009
11:32 am
Oh…FREE VICK…if Stallworth hadn’t been a rich man, he would be in jail right now and would not have been able to “pay off” the family of the man he killed with millions of dollars to avoid serving prison time. And he is a rich black man, too, just like many rick while and blue collar criminals or law breakers who use money to avoid true justice. The suspension for Stallworth was, at minium, the right thing to do.
tmd
August 14th, 2009
11:36 am
I am sad to even live in the same state as philadelphia – that the would sign this dog killer on! go ahead – you signed your fate – the steelers will rock again this year -
Bob from Dahlonega
August 14th, 2009
11:41 am
Pa. home of vick ,arlen spector,and ben rothlisberger. a real moral state. not to mention the horny guy who shot up the health club.. pa deserves vick
Bobby Dowell
August 14th, 2009
11:53 am
Fan comments from the Eagles message boards:
>I am an enormous fan who is absolutely heartbroken knowing my hard earned money will go into his scumbag pockets.
>This is a terrible feeling. I love the Eagles but I cant support this decision. Im beyond upset.
>He’s a terrible quarterback even if you ignore the whole slaughtering defenseless animal aspect of this.
>He cant read a defense, he is inaccurate and he hasnt played in two years. How is this a positive move?
Marcus
August 14th, 2009
11:56 am
MB,
I hope Vick does well. As a Falcons fan (all ATL sports fan) in the Philly area, this came as a bombshell … but it makes sense football-wise. A lot of the points brought up by Schultzie and yourself are valid. Plus, in Vick, Reid also could have seen a raw version of McNabb. There has been scuttlebutt about his lack of work ethic/dependence on ability while with ATL so the structure, rigor, and discipline (key word) of the Eagles and Coach Reid will fix that. Also, lets keep in mind, while in ATL, Vick probably had his best professional development under a veteran head coach (Reeves) vs. a 1st time head coach (Mora). We cannot discount that factor either, and in fact, may have regressed profesionally from 2004- 06 vs. his projected path had Reeves been retained.
Marcus
August 14th, 2009
11:57 am
John 8:7
dap01
August 14th, 2009
11:57 am
He will let the Eagles down.
Roy Hobbs
August 14th, 2009
12:19 pm
We could all learn something about second chances and forgiveness from Andy Reid.
However this turns out, thats a guy with the confidence and ability to make a decision, and the empathy and desire to give someone a second chance.
ThaMan
August 14th, 2009
12:46 pm
Falcons Sorry -I see you slept through your English classes.
wink
August 14th, 2009
12:47 pm
richtfan
I am not a Vick supporter as it relates to the fan base, however, I do support the man’s right for a second chance. He has paid his debt the State of VA. He owes them nothing, but the taxes on his home and any income he generates in that state.
At the time of this offense, dog fighting in VA, this was not a FEDERAL offense. As a result of Michael missing a function in DC & a politician in CA raising the bar, this offense was made FEDERAL, and taken away from the State of VA. Being high profile individual, PETA, jumped on board to raise the stakes higher in the court of public opinion. Mike lied, yes; was found guilty, yes; sentence was handed down, yes; Vick completed his sentence by a court of (Federal) law. Time has been served according to that law, which makes your opinions on further penalty moot. Again, very MOOT. You are entitled to your opinion, as am I, but to lanquish in your opinion of justice regarding Vick’s debt to the State…just does not matter…it’s done!! Cheer for Vick, don’t cheer for Vick, just move on or continue to lanquish….ha ha ha ha!
Go Falcons
Ticket Operator
August 14th, 2009
12:53 pm
I have some good news & bad news
The good news:
Tickets sales are sky rocketing since yesterday.
The bad news:
They are generated by a former player
Bad News
August 14th, 2009
12:58 pm
I am taking a poll, Eagles or Falcons, who has better chance of winning the superbowl, I know the Falcons don’t even make the playoffs, but I will be open-minded.
Falcons
or
Eagles
McNabb
Westbrook
Vick
Macklin
Jackson
Cobb
Avant
Something to think about
Matty Ice
August 14th, 2009
12:59 pm
I want my blog dammit!!!!!
Darrin "The Vent King"
August 14th, 2009
1:04 pm
Enter your comments here
Mercenary
August 14th, 2009
1:11 pm
Actually both the pro- and anti-Vick folks should be pleased. For the pro-, Vick gets to play in the NFL again and for a solid organization, albeit not as a starting QB. For the anti-, at least he’s not playing for a division rival and if you think he was sensitive enough to flip off fans before all this dog fighting mess, he’s gonna get it hard in Philly sooner or later…
bigeasy830
August 14th, 2009
1:18 pm
The Falcons suck and so do their fans.
Falcons, 4-12 in 2009.
“Back to Life, Back To Reality”
MO Zack
August 14th, 2009
1:34 pm
OK Vick you got your second chance. Do well bro.
MO Zack
August 14th, 2009
1:43 pm
bigeasy830, stop “Sippin on Sizzurp”!
You mean 12-4 in 2009!
regijoli
August 14th, 2009
1:46 pm
To all of you(richtfan,Animal Lover!!!! Mike Vick hater!!! and the likes) who are saying Vick is not human and proclaiming him to be unforgivable, I hope that you are as unforgiving to your Great Grandfathers and other members of the generations that pre-dated you; who bought, sold, kidnapped, raped, brutally beat and murdered(by way of hanging,burning,electocuting and other unspeakable methods) Africans and African Americans from 1619(The start of slaver in Jamestown Virginia) to the brutal beating of Rodney King(in 1993 Los Angeles) and all reported and unreported incidents of cruelty towards the Black race in between and after. That MAN(Vick) paid the price for his crime where as many of the above mentioned scum never did. If what he did was so unforgivable, GOD will make the final judgment. Especially since your blood-lines are without true morality and compassion. He is a human who did a bad thing, his debt has been paid, Unless you are offering to pay the debt for your ancesters and fore-fathers, crawl back in your self-righteous holes so we sports fans can enjoy some football whether he gets on the field or not.
MO Zack
August 14th, 2009
1:51 pm
Ok bigeasy you can keep that one….
regijoli you a bad mother…..
Ticket Operator
August 14th, 2009
2:02 pm
Falcon fans you should be ashamed of yourselves. How can you let a former player who has not played since 2006 out sell your current qb?
Shame! Shame! Shame!
Smart Jay
August 14th, 2009
2:08 pm
Regi – just a point of fact,very few Southerners actually owned slaves. If we just took the people you mentioned bloodlines, you probably wouldn’t touch a single poster here. It’s one thing to engage in stereotyping, it’s quite another to tar an entire race with the sins of the very, very few.
Also, why should the heirs to the guilty have to pay a price for something they had no personal involvement in? Michael Vick personally did the things he was convicted of, and he has paid the debt society forced on him. But, your comparison of people needing to pay the price for their ancestor’s crimes to Vick’s paying the price for HIS OWN CRIMES is pretty far off base.
As for Vick, he has paid his debt to society off. I think he’ll get 4-8 games off,then he can get back on the field. You may hate what he did, but he doesn’t deserve his livelihood taken away from him, and I look forward to him being back on the field.
Mercenary
August 14th, 2009
2:08 pm
Ticket Operator, I think you’re mistaken. People still ponied up for another Mike after he got out of jail. Mike Tyson – because he had become a freak show. And that’s what Vick has become. Works for me – I plan to sell my season tix for this game for a nice profit now. Thanks Frea(vic)k!
wxwax
August 14th, 2009
2:34 pm
Thank for all the links, good stuff Mark.
To me the most telling observation is that Vick regrets not working harder at developing his QB skills the first time around. That bodes really well for him, signifying a humility we haven’t seen before. For the first time, I begin to think perhaps he might establish himself as a starting QB again.
In the short term, his presence on the Eagles is being overblown. It will be a long time, perhaps most of the season, before he’s able to contribute. Assuming the Iggles make the playoffs, perhaps it’s there that he might finally bring a surprise factor to the games.
Finally, in sharp contrast to the horror of Vick’s crimes is the heartwarming response by Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb. Especially Reid. It’s not often you see such a human and vulnerable side to people in the NFL, and it makes me feel good to see it.
tj
August 14th, 2009
2:50 pm
FREE VICK,
White men do not do stupid stuff like, then play a stupid race card, time for a change dont ya think ??
tj
August 14th, 2009
2:50 pm
D.J. Shockley is a better QB than Vick!!
gdawginkalamazoo
August 14th, 2009
2:55 pm
Mark, the Eagles don’t make the Super Bowl again this year, Andy Reid retires and Tony Dungy becomes the new HC of the Eagles and caretaker of MV.
regijoli
August 14th, 2009
3:01 pm
SmartJay,
thank for your comments to my posting. My point, though extreme, was to point out the self righteous of so many of the bloggers on here that speak of this man as if he committed a crime again mankind.
Let’s be clear(and both you and I are on the same page with this) he did commit a crime, but the main people(the so called animal lovers) that do not feel the debt paid was enough of a payment and would rather see him subjected to even harsher punishment as if he committed a crime again his fellow man; are the same ones who have not and will not condemn,even in words,their ancestors for there horrible crime which were again man(Helpless Man-Stolen Man-the African Decent Man). And yes you are correct, there were only a select few Southerners who owned slaves, but there were countless southerners and others from every region of this country who committed these heinous crimes against blacks people with no atonement. I hope that he has learned his lesson, my hope is that anyone involved in dog-fighting learned a lesson from witnessing his downfall, but alas they were ANIMALS not humans. He is no less human than those who hunt for sport.
regijoli
August 14th, 2009
3:06 pm
SmartJay,
thanks for your comments to my posting. My point, though extreme, was to point out the self righteous of so many of the bloggers on here that speak of this man as if he committed a crime again mankind.
Let’s be clear(and both you and I are on the same page with this) he did commit a crime, but the main people(the so called animal lovers) that do not feel the debt paid was enough of a payment and would rather see him subjected to even harsher punishment as if he committed a crime again his fellow man; are the same ones who have not and will not condemn,even in words,their ancestors for there horrible crimes which were again man(Helpless Man-Stolen Man-the African Decent Man). And yes you are correct, there were only a select few Southerners who owned slaves, but there were countless southerners and others from every region of this country who committed these heinous crimes against blacks people with no atonement. I hope that he has learned his lesson, my hope is that anyone involved in dog-fighting learned a lesson from witnessing his downfall, but alas they were ANIMALS not humans. He is no less human than those who hunt for sport.
FalconsRule
August 14th, 2009
3:08 pm
I don’t know why you stupid Vick supporters think Vick is going to run all over the Falcons. He will likely not even play in the game. The whole “who is laughing now” thing is ridiculous. Why should anyone be laughing. He signed, big deal. He hasn’t done anything to make anyone eat crow. He likely won’t either. He was never a good QB in the West Coast offense in ATL, and he won’t be in Philly…and that’s assuming he actually plays QB.
The Wildcat will not work as well this year. It will frizzle out just like the option in the NFL did, and then what will Vick do>?
tj
August 14th, 2009
3:10 pm
there is a poor white man serving 40 years for the same crime that the great black athlete only served 2, where is the justice ??
tj
August 14th, 2009
3:20 pm
AJC, if you are going to remove my comments concerning justice or race, then you should do the same for these people are complaining that race had anything to do with his sentencing.. bunch of hypocrits!!
MightyQuinn
August 14th, 2009
3:35 pm
All I can say is that this (Vick in Philly) is the second worst scenario for Atlanta, as a city. Number one would have been him signing with an NFC South team and coming here every year. Signing with Philly is bad because it will be late in the season, and probably both teams will be in contention, making an intense situation even that much more combustible. All I can say is there had better be a very strong show of force from the law enforcement community in Atlanta that day, in and all around the Dome, because I have a sickening feeling that it could possibly explode into a race riot. Today I just feel sad for my hometown. God help us all.
Fair and Balanced
August 14th, 2009
3:36 pm
The Falcons have a preseason game tomorrow night? Can somebody tell them? They’re all still crowded around the TV watching Vick coverage.
Get Real People
August 14th, 2009
3:40 pm
Wow..I just had a Willie B flashback. The above pic definitely reminded me of good ‘ol Willie. Willie amused lots of folks for many years too.
Zoomie
August 14th, 2009
3:50 pm
I think this is great for Vick, great for the Eagles, and great for football.
MV’s sins have been publicly exposed. He lost everything (his own doing, of course). He’s paid the debt required of him and I’m glad he’s in a position to get back on his feet. It remains to be seen whether he’s a changed man. I believe he is. He finally broke ties with the posse he financed and protected for most of his professional life when they sold him down the river to save their butts. If this doesn’t make him see the light, nothing will.
MV is with a good program and has some great mentors and associates now. Once he gets past the locker room hijinks ( I envision one of those homemade hot dog cookers placed in his locker, you know, the ones made with two nails and electric wire) I believe he’ll settle in, work hard, and become a great addition to the Eagles. I’m happy for him and wish him well.
Congrats to MV and the Eagles, but . . . GO FALCONS!
lexluther
August 14th, 2009
4:15 pm
I commend Philly for giving Mike Vick this opportunity. The guy contribution to this team will be tremendous. I don’t understand how this society can persecute someone for animal cruelty and not help a homeless person. What does that say about us? This guy (Mike Vick) made a mistake, and he’s paid his dept. We give people that kill or beat the h-ll out of another human being more support than they have given Mike. So I say, good for you MV7! Show the Falcons that they gave up on you too soon. Go get that ring in Philly…damn, did I just say that…anyway..Good luck Mike.
Stat Checker
August 14th, 2009
4:23 pm
Of all NFL active qbs with 62 or more starts, Mike Vick ranks 7th on the list – source espn.com
That means there are at least 25 starting qbs with worst winning percentages.
Food for thought.
YUP!!
August 14th, 2009
4:38 pm
Bye bye Vick.
DANG!!! IT IS SO NICE KNOWING THE FALCONS HAVE GOT SUCH A GREAT REAL FUTURE HALL OF FAME QB BEHIND CENTER!!! GO MATT RYAN!!
Good to see the one trick pony Vick in another uniform…..could not be more proud!
Vick fans you can be sure the NFL has not forgotten how to shut his azz down. The wildcat worked for awhile last year but will not do anything for any team this year. The Falcons will prove that when they play the Dolphins.
Look out Vick I’m sure some LB’s are ready to knock the sh** out of you leaving you crying on the field!!
YUP!!
August 14th, 2009
4:41 pm
Vick hasn’t had a winning season since 2004. 2005 and 2006 was HORRIBLE!!
SOOOOOO GLAD HE’S NOT THE FALCONS PROBLEM ANYMORE!!!!
Matt Ryan
August 14th, 2009
5:25 pm
Anybody know where I can buy Pro Bowl & 2nd round Playoff tickets?
Thanks!
Playoff Wins
August 14th, 2009
5:27 pm
2004 & Counting
Just An Observation
August 14th, 2009
5:53 pm
I thought Willie B died…..
Mike Vick
August 14th, 2009
6:06 pm
“Hell yeah I killed those mutts & I hope they burn in hell”!
If I knew I could get off this sorry team and win a super bowl, I would have done it a long time ago!
Thanks Artie – can’t wait to crush your small hopes on Dec 6th!
falconexile
August 14th, 2009
6:39 pm
I cant believe anyone was stupid enough to sign vickie just wait for the retaliation
Fair and Balanced
August 14th, 2009
6:59 pm
These same haters on this blog bashing Vick will be sitting on their computers bashing Vick on gamedays…guess where they won’t be? At the Georgia Dome on the inside, as paying customers.
Operators are standing by…but not for the game on Dec 6th!! That one is sold out…wonder why?!?! LOL
Hate on haters!!! You thought Vick was not gonna sign or he’d be a punt returner for the Raiders making minimum wage!! NOT!
Jay
August 14th, 2009
7:09 pm
I think anyone that comes to the game on Dec 6 to protest Micheal Vick should not be allowed in the dome. The city of Atlanta should banned all protesters around the dome and don’t give them no media coverage. People come to watch Football not a side show. Enough have been said and done to this man, and your protesting not going to change any decisions.
Bravesfansince1961
August 14th, 2009
7:44 pm
I’ve never seen so many agent provocateurs in one comment section in such a long time. Also some really bad spelling and grammar. Do you really get so worked up that coherence and literacy flies out the window? Now about Mr. Vick.
I wish him well in his future endeavors. He’ll have to earn his way back into the NFL. Nobody gets a free ride. What many is overlooking is the 2nd year of the contract is a TEAM OPTION year. If he does great; they take the option. He doesn’t; he’s cut and a free agent again. I hope, pray, that Mr. Vick keeps his support team around him and he listens to them. Tony Dungy is a very forthright guy. About Mr. Vick there can be one thing said: he affected a lot of people in Atlanta and the United States. I just wish the passion people are displaying here would go for our football team: You know? The Atlanta Falcons. Now that Mr. Vick has no connections to Atlanta I would hope that our newspaper will report on things Atlanta. I can hope can’t I?
Alan
August 14th, 2009
8:14 pm
This is tha last time I’ll mention Vick. I wish that he would have to go into a pit with a Pit Bull that has been trained as an attack dog at least that way he might really understand what he put those dogs thru.
Good by, stay gone and for god sake don’t disappoint Tony Dungee, a good man, that has helped you get this far.
D up
August 14th, 2009
10:20 pm
I believe we are getting ready to see a young man come into his own. I think he’s going to be better on the field than we remember, I also think Mike Vick could be the future Tony Dungy. Remember a saint is just a sinner who fell down and got back up!!!
tyler
August 14th, 2009
11:44 pm
Alan, Vick would whup that dogs ass. Pit bulls are worthless animals in my opinion that are a danger to human beings, especially children. Had one of his co called pets harmed an innocent child, I would agree the punishment.
At least they were kept in cages where they belong.
stendec
August 15th, 2009
1:30 am
AJC, if you are going to remove my comments concerning justice or race, then you should do the same for these people are complaining that race had anything to do with his sentencing.. bunch of hypocrits!!
SHHHHH my friend. Try not to protest too much. You will invoke wrath of AJC censors. Alas, I realize this from past experience. A certain race (which must remain nameless) can say anything about anything or anybody without fear of rebuttal or censorship. Why? Rebuttal of racist comments from these racists is considered racist. Hmmmm. So a Northerner can assassinate the South in a SOUTHERN newspaper blog knowing any opposition to those views will be deleted by friendly AJC censors. Sad? Yes! Frustrating? Yes! Fair? Hell no! Whoops. “H” word just slipped out. Forgive me censors. This is the way it is now. Will always be. Now back to Falcons. Mike (CENSORED) still (CENSORED) (CENSORED)! Glenn Beck for president. Can I say that? Thank you.
Milman
August 15th, 2009
5:17 am
Vick is a thug, a bum, a gang-banger and now an unremorseful felon, his posse were a bunch of crooks who will follow him to Philly. As to Vick, you can take the guy out of the hood but you can’t take the hood out of the guy! Vick was also not a team player and still isn’t but he always tooted his own horn and called his own number over others for his own glory or more often failure on the field. I say good riddance and lets never hear or see his name in the Atlanta media again, Vick was not good for the Falcons and he will not be good for the Eagles!
Falcons Obit
August 15th, 2009
7:41 am
Milman, go play in traffic.
Guess what haters! Vick’s contract also has bonus clauses worth up to $3 million for 2009!! Ooooooo…that should REALLY sting ya! You wanted him to be a punt returner making minimum wage with the Raiders! NOT! Instead he’s with one of the best teams in the league, backing up a top 3 QB that he has a long friendship with, and the potential to make $4 million this season alone.
And all it will take is ONE highlight…and you’ll see Nike execs right back in Joel Segal’s office! LOL
Fed up
August 15th, 2009
10:45 am
Flick your Vick, I was there when Vick Flicked off the Fans so back at you Mr. Vick and I hope those Passionate Fans really treat like they know how
BigSherm7
August 15th, 2009
11:32 am
The Lord Jesus Christ forgave me for my years of prodigal behavior . . .who am I to not forgive Michael Vick, a young man who, since his youth, has been told how wonderful he is, was handed millions of dollars without the wisdom on how to spend it, and was engulfed in such an atmosphere of arrogance as to beg description . . . he is now a broken man, which is just how our Lord prefers it . . .I believe that if he stays straight and narrow he will win a Super Bowl . . .anybody got tickets to the Dec. 6th matchup with the Falcons???????
Ariose
August 15th, 2009
1:10 pm
Animal Lover!!!! Mike Vick hater!!! Are you a Vegan? Cause if you’re not, you have absoulutley no reason to judge this man.
EX: If you have eaten ANYTHING that had a mother, you cannot talk. That includes Chickens, Cows and Turkeys…..
mars
August 15th, 2009
2:29 pm
SUPPER BOWL!?! EAGELS!?! NO REASON!!!???!!! MORON! MORON! MORON!
On a side note to pollywannacracker. You are a loser, a moron, a bigot and a racists. You should be ashamed for using Jesus name in such a context. If you had levelled similar comments against Muslims, there would be a ‘fatwa’ on your fat @$$!
Bad News
August 15th, 2009
2:41 pm
For all you guys that hate Mike Vick, I advise you not to turn your television to ESPN or THE NFL NETWORK because they are all over Mike Vick’s jock!
Sorry Matt Ice fans, oh I did see a thumb nail of Matty on the ESPN website, oh sorry that was in the archives
Anyway, please don’t turn on your television unless you want to see exclusive Vick continuing coverage. Not bad for a so called glorified running back.
See you in the superbowl….oh that’s right you guys have to watch it with Matty Ice in his grandmas living room.
Go Eagles!
Falconsince78
August 16th, 2009
11:12 am
Lemme tell yall somthing here. Micheal Vick is NOT better than Matt Ryan. This man has not played NFL football for 2 plus YEARS. He will make some plays, but what kind of liability are we looking at here? For those of you thinking Ryan is nothing without Turner, look at the Raider game, the Ram game, the Saints game here, among one or two others. Mike Vick throws WAY too hard for a receiver to catch a ball. We got the better end of the deal. I dread December 6 because of the moron posters in here. I’m worried 60 Minutes will make Arthur Blank out to be the bad guy here. MICHAEL VICK ALMOST RUINED THIS FRANCHISE YET YOU PEOPLE WORSHIP HIM? I lost all respect for him b/c of the lies to Arthur and Comm. Goodell.
We will survive the Eagle game and win. Super Bowl bound!
Falconsince78
August 16th, 2009
11:13 am
Heck I even supported him when he shot the finger at the fans b/c of the fans mentality here in Atl. It’s tasteless.
gapeach
August 16th, 2009
12:05 pm
Animal lover!!!Vick Hater!!!, you’re amazing. A man lost his job and more millions than you or I will probably ever make. He went to jail for a year and a half, and you don’t think he’s been punished enough? Seriously??? I hope that the people in your life are more forgiving of you than you are of Michael Vick. Yes, he was wrong and should have been punished. Let the man work so that he can finish paying his debt to his creditors and take care of his family. If he doesn’t, you’ll be the first in line to call him a dead-beat dad. I have a feeling Vick can win with you either way. I think there’s something inherently wrong with people who appear to care more about animals than they do people. Love animals, but love mankind, too.