One Falcon out, another down: Isn’t this where we came in?
Tony Gonzalez says he's not afraid of ghosts. He's new around here. (Photo by M. Bradley)
Flowery Branch – If it happened in Latrobe, Pa., you’d shrug and say, “That’s football.” But this is the Branch and these are the Birds, and once again this star-crossed franchise is endeavoring to make history by actually putting one winning season after another. And here’s the scorecard after six days of camp:
A Pro Bowl receiver is still in Alabama because he wants the sort of money Larry Fitzgerald gets, and the No. 3 wideout has been lost for the season with a knee injury.
And now you’re not shrugging. You’re thinking, “Here we go again.”
Coming off an epic NFC title game, the Falcons botched a Super Bowl by having Terance Mathis get miffed exiting the team plane and having Eugene Robinson get himself arrested 21 hours before kickoff. Coming off that Super Bowl, O.J. Santiago fell off a golf cart on Day 1 of camp and Jamal Anderson wrecked his knee in Week 2. Coming off a playoff victory at Lambeau Field, Michael Vick broke his leg in Week 3 of the exhibition season.
Were these the Pittsburgh Steelers, you’d say, “Oh, they’ll handle it.” But these aren’t the Steelers. These are the Falcons, who haven’t consolidated a gain in 43 years of trying.
Tony Gonzalez is new here. Asked Thursday about if he believes a jinx hangs over the Birds, he said: “I hope not. I’m not going to get into that Boston Red Sox type of stuff. We’ve got a good football team. We’ve got good players. It’s sad for Harry, but injuries happen.”
Then this: “One of the most underrated things is football is staying healthy. If we can do that, we’ve got a good shot. We just hope nothing else happens.”
But the Falcons’ track record is that something else always happens. As much as we might believe in the brainpower of Thomas Dimitroff and the basics of Mike Smith, these men still work for the franchise that bears the Bird in its logo. And that Bird hasn’t yet failed to mess up a good thing.
Loading ...A year ago the Falcons were 11-5 in large measure because they didn’t get hurt. Now Harry Douglas gets hurt just catching a pass on a Wednesday in August. No, he isn’t among the Falcons’ 10 biggest names, but what if Roddy White doesn’t show before Sept. 13? Can they make do with Michael Jenkins and Brian Finneran and assorted free agents? (Don’t forget: The Falcons traded Laurent Robinson to the Rams in April, and Robinson opened camp as a first-stringer.)
Said Finneran, who tore his ACL on July 30, 2006 and essentially missed two seasons: “A guy getting hurt is bad at any point.”
Said Smith, being pragmatic: “Injuries happen. But as I just told the team after practice, one man’s misfortune is another man’s opportunity. I know that’s harsh to say, and we all feel for Harry, but that’s the way it is.”
And that is the way it is. But because these are the Falcons, any adverse development is seen as the first sign of the apocalypse. Maybe this time will be different. But we’ve been expecting the worst for 43 years now, and at least every other year the great fickle Bird has done its voodoo.
Were I Matt Ryan, I wouldn’t walk under any ladders. Or spill any salt. Or exhale until January.
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184 comments Add your comment
JJB
August 6th, 2009
12:48 pm
What is going to be the news about WR’s today?
dooley
August 6th, 2009
12:51 pm
Wow, Mark there has got to be something wrong with this franchise. There is ALWAYS something happening to someone on this team. It is very hard to have this team as the hometown team.
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
12:58 pm
Esteemed colleague D. Orlando Ledbetter should have some news for you momentarily.
bigeasy830
August 6th, 2009
12:58 pm
Dooley, there is nothing wrong with the Falcons this year, actually everything is finally getting back to normal, the Falcons suck. They always have and will continue to suck for a long time. 2008 was a Dream season for yo falcon fans the Football Gods smiled on you. The 2008 is in your rearview…….
Falcons, 4-12 in 2009.
“Back To Life, Back To Reality”.
bigeasy830
August 6th, 2009
12:59 pm
I like long walks in the park.
And kittens.
Panties in a wad
August 6th, 2009
1:00 pm
It’s the PETA curse.
Evil Richt 2009 S.E.C. World Tour: "Banned in Columbus"
August 6th, 2009
1:02 pm
A Saints fan trying to talk trash about another franchise’s history?
Jross1981
August 6th, 2009
1:02 pm
first
bigeasy830
August 6th, 2009
1:03 pm
You know it, you got to be an animal lover in Atlanta or you will get a 23 moth federal prison sentence. And those long walks have really helped, in the last 6 months I went from Big Easy to not so Big Easy. You got to love it. Getting sexy for the ladies…
Panties in a wad
August 6th, 2009
1:04 pm
MB please stay away from the Falcons camp. go visit Carolina.
bigeasy830
August 6th, 2009
1:04 pm
Well one lady, my wifey, the rest will just have to look and wish, including your “old Lady”. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Smitty
August 6th, 2009
1:04 pm
why be so negative? Smith said it best, “misfortune leads to opportunity” . Thats true in every training camp. football is a serious contact sport, ie, violent. Injuries happen every day. Thats why “depth” is so key to consistent winning programs.Use this occurence to measure Smith and Dimitroff on that scale.
Joe Namath
August 6th, 2009
1:06 pm
How is the road beef in Atlanta these days?
Ga Southern Eagle Fan
August 6th, 2009
1:06 pm
Enter your comments here
bigeasy830
August 6th, 2009
1:12 pm
Dimitroff is just like Matt Ryan in the sense that the one good season the team had last year proves nothing. We will see how all his personel moves will pan out sooner than later. I still say it was a huge mistake trading two 2nd round picks to move up to get Sam Baker when he would have been there when the Falcons drafted in the 2nd round anyway. The only pick I liked was Curtis Lofton. The rest, we will see.
Parker
August 6th, 2009
1:12 pm
Yo Bigeasy…dude get a life ..do you seriously have nothing better to do than piss people off. I’m guessing your a 13 yr old spoiled brat kid that lives in SC or NO and lives off his parents money. Better yet your probably a 35yr old grown man that lives with his parents and is worthless.Who do we have to talk to about getting his IP blocked?
fanoffalcons
August 6th, 2009
1:13 pm
What about that draft pick from Clemson, Kelly, Give him a chance!!!!!
dean palaferro
August 6th, 2009
1:14 pm
Isn’t it time to consider an expierenced free agent out there?
Harrison,Porter or another?
The falcs do not have many vets …….bring one aboard!
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
1:14 pm
I believe Aaron Kelly was actually a free agent. But he is from CU.
midnite
August 6th, 2009
1:17 pm
Enough with the negative stuff already! Think positive man!
mountain_jim
August 6th, 2009
1:17 pm
I questioned the Laurent Robinson trade when TD did it (for what, a bucket of footballs?) and I question it even more now. He may not have been much of a blocker but he could get open and had great hands, would have fit right in where HD left. I look forward to seeing how TD handles this test, and Roddy’s situation.
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
1:19 pm
Actually, the Falcons just swapped draft positions with the Rams in Rounds 5 and 6. Didn’t get any extra picks.
dooley
August 6th, 2009
1:25 pm
Even if we get Roddy back, we really need at least 2 more above average wideouts.
bass stringerfish
August 6th, 2009
1:25 pm
Just watch, someone will fall into our laps…the karma for this team has definately changed. It will be fine. And I say Roddy White can kiss all our butts…You signed a contract. The Falcons did not reduce your pay when you sucked at catching the football. You are no where near Larry Fitzgerald. I like this team w/out this money whore.
Sam
August 6th, 2009
1:26 pm
Every team will have injuries. What’s so surprising?
Falcondore
August 6th, 2009
1:33 pm
I don’t question Laurent Robinson’s trade at all. We moved up to take more quality players in the 5th and 6th round. They’re actually just as big a gamble as Robinson, who regardless of people’s thought process, is still a project.
Usain Bolt
August 6th, 2009
1:33 pm
Thomas Dimitroff just called to ask if I can catch a football…
shanet34
August 6th, 2009
1:34 pm
good question jb im curious to see i heard they had marvin harrison coming in for a workout he still has a bit left in his tank hed be good in tha slot we just need roddy to get in camp so we can get ready for another playoff run we got a hell of a team it suckd to lose harry but roddy and jenkins can do it
Potter
August 6th, 2009
1:35 pm
The Robinson trade was for the best. We got Vance Walker out of it and form all the reports I’ve been hearing he is performing very well. We’ll make it work.
MiltonDawg
August 6th, 2009
1:35 pm
Start Bergeron or try to sign Marty Booker, Ike Hilliard, or a few other unsigned WRs asap. Roddy’s issue won’t be resolved anytime soon bc/ little baby will keep crying until he gets his way.
shanet34
August 6th, 2009
1:36 pm
shut tha hell up parker ignerant jackass ur a loser
Potter
August 6th, 2009
1:36 pm
Marvin Harrison refused to return to the Colts for a reduced role and reduced $$$. I highly doubt he’ll come to the Birds.
Pepe Frias
August 6th, 2009
1:39 pm
Who is the hot blonde chatting up Tony in the photo above? Can we get her to write a blog and post pics of herself? In the nude please!
shanet34
August 6th, 2009
1:41 pm
get roddy in camp and put jerious norwood in tha number 3 wr spot hes got a ton of speed
Panties in a wad
August 6th, 2009
1:41 pm
Marvin Harrison likes to shoot people. that kind of grief the Birds dont need.
Panties in a wad
August 6th, 2009
1:42 pm
Yes play Norwood at the #3 WR. He’s got good hands if I recall correctly and we all know he’s a spped demon. He would make a potent downfield threat.
Mike
August 6th, 2009
1:53 pm
Where’s this news about our WRs, MB?
Green Tea
August 6th, 2009
1:55 pm
Big Easy STFU
LFP6
August 6th, 2009
1:56 pm
Panties has a point with Norwood; use him as a WR, and have him on returns as well [and you people DO know that Norwood is good in that area too]. And lets not forget we have a Pro-Bowl TE to make use of…..
Greg
August 6th, 2009
1:59 pm
All you can say is that the Laurent trade—which I could not believe at the time (a third-rounder who had impressed many fans, for a couple move-ups in the 5th & 6th rounds???)—was evidence that the coaches saw something we couldn’t see. Maybe they didn’t like the way his injured hammy was responding/healing. Maybe they questioned his work ethic. But no matter what else it was, it was an admission by the Falcons that they had screwed up with this 3rd round pick.
Hillbilly Deluxe
August 6th, 2009
2:08 pm
Mark:
Liked the idea yesterday about repeating the post when you answer it. Makes the blog easier to follow for us skimmers.
tale of woe
August 6th, 2009
2:10 pm
Ike Hillard????? I would like that
Prime Time
August 6th, 2009
2:15 pm
I’ll play wide out. Done it before. Bring me a contract !!
Alan
August 6th, 2009
2:16 pm
Roddy, stay home and play with your backyard team, should go a long way in helping get the rust off and putting money in your pocket, wait a minute, taking money out of your pocket. TRADE HIM!!!! GO FALCONS!!!
Trainwreck
August 6th, 2009
2:22 pm
So umm… hows Troy Bergeron and Aaron Kelly looking?
SimpleDawg
August 6th, 2009
2:22 pm
Ruck Foddy until he comes back to camp. If he’s not back within a week, move on without him.
Jerious at WR? Not a bad idea. Jenkins and Finneran are good receivers, but we will need that down field speed.
Gray Mule
August 6th, 2009
2:26 pm
Hate to lose anyone. Really hate to lose a good reciever and
return man. But, if it had to happen, just happy it happened
early in pre season. Birds still have plenty of time to search
for a replacement.
Just think, if this had happened in the first quarter of the
season opener – - Yep. At least, as bad as this is, Atlanta has
time to look for a replacement.
An opportunity – Either for someone already on the roster or
someone out there that we can sign.
SimpleDawg
August 6th, 2009
2:27 pm
Oh….regarding Big Sleazy 830. It never pays to argue with an idiot, after a while others may become confused as to who’s who.
Skeezix
August 6th, 2009
2:27 pm
For the most part, pro football bores me.
D-bird in Chucktown
August 6th, 2009
2:35 pm
I’ll second Jerious at WR. Especially if Snelling is still in the nest!!!
Roddy the @@@HOLE
August 6th, 2009
2:37 pm
HEY RODDY, YOU GREEDY, MONEY MONGERED @@@HOLE, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR DEMANDS AND SHOVE THEM UP YOUR @@@ AS FAR AS WE ARE CONCERNED. YOU GREEDY BASTURDS HAVE ALREADY RUINED PROF SPORTS!!!
oldbird
August 6th, 2009
2:42 pm
Let’s get down to the important matters…who’s that interviewing TG?
Braindawg
August 6th, 2009
2:49 pm
Heres my take. Yeah losing Douglas hurts. Roddy need s to get to camp, as Mark Bradley pointed out so well yesterday. And I think he will get to camp sooner than later. I think Thomas Dimitroff, will wait til a good replacement is released from a team that has to many WR’s, and pick them up. As far as the not winning two yrs in a row, (curse, if you will) is concerned, I fullly expect to have that end this yr. Like was said all last yr., “This aint your daddy, or for that matter your grand dads, Falcons, anymore!” And I believe that! And yes the schedule will be tougher, always is after you win and make the playoffs, after not making the playoffs and having that kind of schedule. Just look at the team, we brought in Gonzo his first yr with the team, Matty hasnt had two back to back losing seasons with the team, same thing with Turner, and Baker also. The same thing can be said for Mike Smith, along with Thomas Dimitroff. This is, as was shown last yr, a new team, new way of thinking. This team is solid. Do I look to go, what 11-5 again, more than likely not, but this will be a winning yr. We will challenge for a playoff spot. Yes injuries can sideline even the best of teams. But you dont control when a player gets hurt. Its just bad luck when that happens. This team is put together as solidly as possible. So as with any team, we’ll roll the injury dice and see what comes up this yr. And if we do have more players get hurt, then thats just the way it is…….But anyone that says, “oh the Falcons are jinxed” are as stupid as T. Moore thinking he’s going to be inducted into the sports writers hall of fame! Sorry T.M., I had to take the shot, I was open…. Bottom line is we’ll be fine, now wheres my Crown and coke….Woman wheres my drink…That is all! Later!
The Dogfighter Returns
August 6th, 2009
2:51 pm
back to life back to reality. give roddy his money and stop being the same lousy falcons. give the man his cash. $10 million.
get your money roddy.
tale of woe
August 6th, 2009
2:52 pm
Yes…Answer Oldbird’s question!
MiltonDawg
August 6th, 2009
2:54 pm
I wonder if Roddy and Crabtree have the same agent? Crabtree is threatening to sit out the whole season and re-enter next year’s draft if his demands are not met. T.O. has made every WR a freakin bunch of drama queens.
Braindawg
August 6th, 2009
3:00 pm
Oh ok, let me throw a lame brained idea out there, one that will never happen, but would solve our problem……Bring in The Man, Mr. Excitement, you got it, the one the only, ladies and germs meet your new WR, Mr. Mike Vick……..Well it was just an idea…Dont start throwing stuff…….
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
3:07 pm
I believe the journalist pictured with Tony Gonzalez is Ms. Laura Okmin, who I believe is with FoxSports.com.
Bushwacker
August 6th, 2009
3:09 pm
Its the CURSE!!!
Braindawg is right, Vick is going to be making spectacular plays for somebody, as long as he accepts its not at qb, he needs to be making the plays for us!!!!
GT97
August 6th, 2009
3:12 pm
Roddy may have had the yards and receptions last year, but I still don’t trust him. Anybody remember the Denver game last year? It is obvious that psychological mindset plays a role in how well he performs; it is a little scary to think he can live up to the hype that comes with a big contract. If the Falcons give him lots of money, he will be a bust. I guarantee it! Falcons Fan suffer either way this year. Hello to waiting longer for back to back winning seasons.
PMC
August 6th, 2009
3:18 pm
Definately not saying “Here we go again.” I’m thinking. Who will it be that steps up this year? How will they still do it without HD.
We will miss Harry, but injuries are a part of the game. No reason to fold the tent. They didn’t when Baker went down last year either.
Daniel Bell
August 6th, 2009
3:20 pm
I’ve worked in newsrooms for years, and I’ve never seen a sports journalists that looks like that.
Ackshun
August 6th, 2009
3:21 pm
With Douglas down the best thing to do is put Norwood at punt return and bring Ashlie Lelie beck. He is familiar to the team and still has some years on him at 29. Granted he did do too much last time he was here but then again Roddy White didn’t look like much of a receiver until Matt Ryan showed up.
PMC
August 6th, 2009
3:21 pm
If they can handle the adversity last year… they can handle it this year.
tale of woe
August 6th, 2009
3:28 pm
hmmm…is this the same reporter?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/thenetwork/bios/okmin.html
MB, make sure you are doing your homework on these reporters
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
3:35 pm
That would be the same Laura Okmin.
Wait a second. Are we objectifying women here? Because if we are, I want no part of it.
JJ
August 6th, 2009
3:38 pm
She hasn’t aged in 13 yrs….
MB – when can we expect the info from D-led or yourself about the 3 new receivers in camp today?
Mike
August 6th, 2009
3:40 pm
Yeah, MB…where’s the news? Or was there a notice from the organization to keep the news quiet until they break it on the site?
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
August 6th, 2009
3:41 pm
No way Mark, we just think these people are more sexy than they are good reporters, thats all. We just think they are attractive and not making any statements on their abilities.
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
3:45 pm
Be patient. It’s coming. (See, I shouldn’t have teased you like that. I apologize.)
Mike
August 6th, 2009
3:46 pm
Yep…now you got folks hitting F5 on every site with Falcons content…LOL!
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
August 6th, 2009
3:48 pm
Can you post a photo of Salma Hayek or ScarJo while we wait?
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
3:50 pm
Tale of woe
August 6th, 2009
2:10 pm
Ike Hillard????? I would like that
You would? Hmmm.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
August 6th, 2009
3:51 pm
Oh crap
JJ
August 6th, 2009
3:53 pm
or Tony G’s wife?
JJ
August 6th, 2009
3:55 pm
MB – Did you see T.Moore on Rome yesterday? He actually kept his mouth shut more, usually they cannot shut him up.
JJ
August 6th, 2009
3:58 pm
and he ACTUALLY argued against the race card that the other reporter from Boston was arguing…incredible! yea, I know you wont touch this one! lol
Glenn
August 6th, 2009
3:58 pm
Tony G has always struck me as a ladies man . That chick seems a little long in the tooth though . Something about the NASCAR type babe with a little less tread that appeals to me as well . That being said , Roddy White is going to get his dough . If he comes in & plays out his contract without getting injured he will get a contract that will supersize Fitzy’s by aplenty . I’m telling ya . There will not be a salary cap next season . It will be hard to put the proverbial genie back in the bottle . Roddy White held the leverage even before HD’s knee injury . Harry Douglas was never going to make or break the Falcons anyway . I’m bored with Roddy White . How does our young D look ?
Panties in a wad
August 6th, 2009
3:58 pm
Or-lan-dddooooooooo!
Mike
August 6th, 2009
4:02 pm
He messing up…he was supposed to have this secret info for us hours ago.
MightyQuinn
August 6th, 2009
4:06 pm
Does anybody remember specifically what happened to the Falcons after their 12-4 1980 division winning season that led to them going 7-9? Is that when William Andrews blew his knee out? Lynn Cain? I don’t think I remember Bart getting hurt then.
MightyQuinn
August 6th, 2009
4:09 pm
And its suprising/interesting that negotiations took a turn for the worse after HD’s injury, isn’t it? NOT!!!
Hillbilly Deluxe
August 6th, 2009
4:17 pm
I’m thinking since Mark pulled off that Kotchman for LaRoche deal (although he humbly denies it) and came very close to pulling off the Greg Norton for Albert Pujols deal, he should go on another brainstorming session and bring in a couple of wide outs.
Paul Hamilton
August 6th, 2009
4:19 pm
They signed ferguson
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
4:21 pm
Williams Andrews hurt his knee in training camp in 1984. Know how I remember? It was my first year at the AJC and we’d gone all-out on our pro preview section, which had to be pre-printed. Guess who was on the cover. Yesiree. William Andrews, who by then was out for the season.
FYI, Gerald Riggs became the starting running back and, in Game 1 at New Orleans, set the Falcons’ single-game record for rushing.
John
August 6th, 2009
4:22 pm
Atlanta has a hard time becoming an established sports town due in part of the abundance of pessimistic articles such as this. Unfortunately, it is a fact that too many people believe everything they read. When there is so much negative propaganda in our local news papers dogging our teams, the sheeple that fill our stadiums and help to establish our home field advantages quickly lose their faith. Nobody enjoys reading preseason maledictions, or regurgitated injury predictions from Football Outsiders. I would love for someone at the AJC to stay positive about our teams for once. The color of a jersey and the emblem on a helmet have nothing to do with any team sustaining success, just as hair-plugs and a smug pedosmile have nothing to do with the substance lacking from an article.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
August 6th, 2009
4:23 pm
MQ, how bout after the Super Bowl run, JAM holds out and blows his knee out. Not it’s just getting weird
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
4:24 pm
I’m thinking another reason a city might not become “an established sports town” is for the local football team to go 43 seasons without having back-to-back winning years. But maybe that’s just me.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
August 6th, 2009
4:24 pm
what ferguson? Turd Ferguson
E. Ft. Lauderdale Aluminummediocre
August 6th, 2009
4:24 pm
John has a point. Too many people believe anything that’s written down in a paper or on a blog. I should know, I once had people believing that the Falcons were going to package Michael Vick in a sign and trade deal for Kobe Bryant…
tale of woe
August 6th, 2009
4:25 pm
Ferguson instead of Hillard?????? Hmmmmm….Can we get both? I read that we were looking at Ferguson before HD got injured…Let’s get Hillard now!
Native Georgian
August 6th, 2009
4:25 pm
Roddy- Harry’s blood is on your hands.
Thomas Brown- welcome to the team.
Bergeron- no AFL to resort to. Here’s your chance.
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
4:26 pm
Robert Ferguson. Here’s D-Led’s story about the signing.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
August 6th, 2009
4:27 pm
Tale I think Hillard is a done deal
Vick Supporter
August 6th, 2009
4:28 pm
If I’m not mistaken, you people were saying that Roddy was one of the best Wrs in the NFL, and now you turn on him.
You just wait until Vick steps on that field. The Falcons will always be the cursed franchise that its always been. Vick is going to shine though so that all that matters.
Vick Supporter
August 6th, 2009
4:29 pm
Robert Ferguson,LMAO!!!
I can’t breathe!!! LMAO!
Hillbilly Deluxe
August 6th, 2009
4:29 pm
I’ve been watching the Falcons since 1966. There was an awful lot of futility before Mark Bradley ever got to town so I don’t think he’s to blame. Maybe this will be the year they have back to back winning seasons but you can understand if I’m not getting all excited.
And remember the Falcons, like any other sports team, are a business. I, or anyone else, owe them nothing just because they do business in Atlanta.
tale of woe
August 6th, 2009
4:30 pm
Bank Walker – Hillard wasn’t signed, but Ferbuson was -
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
August 6th, 2009
4:32 pm
I know but I think they will go back to Hillard now since the injury
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
August 6th, 2009
4:32 pm
Yep I was right, Turd Ferguson
Mitun
August 6th, 2009
4:34 pm
hey MB… Do you think WR Reggie Williams fit for ATL?
Glenn
August 6th, 2009
4:49 pm
Robert Ferguson ? Gees . Roddy White should hold out now for part ownership . Did we work anyone else out, like maybe Irving Fryar or Mark Clayton ?
bleedred&black
August 6th, 2009
4:54 pm
I hate to say it, but I saw this coming last year. RW has one decent season and now pay me? Does anyone remember him dropping a touchdown pass against Arizona last year? Helped cost us the game. He DID have a great year overall, though. Perhaps we should incorporate a “pay as you perform” clause in this premadonnas? Roddy needs to shut up, finish the contract that he IS STILL UNDER, show a little work ethic, and stop acting like the d***bag he apparently is. Go Birds!!
JJ
August 6th, 2009
4:57 pm
MB – you keep us hanging all day for FERGI?
8 yrs, 2k yard and 13 TDs – wow!
Ted
August 6th, 2009
5:03 pm
The Falcons signed Robert Ferguson, I don’t think he is going to help very much. Also, now the 2nd round pick Moore is injured.
Regarding White, here is the way I see it. It sounds like he wants close to $10 million/year. The falcons are probably offering around $8 million. If he doesn’t take the offer, he will receive $2 million this year and then be a restricted free agent. Assuming he has a great year and then signs for $10 next year (4 year contract), he will make a total of $32 million over the next 4 years (2009-2012). If he signs now for $8, he will make $32 million over next 4 years (2009-2012). If he doesn’t sign now, he could get injured this year or have an average year and will not get anything near $8 million next year.
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
5:04 pm
Ferguson might not be the end of it. Just sayin’.
TheManMike
August 6th, 2009
5:06 pm
Roddy holding out is a weird thing. I am leaning toward it being more negative for the team than it is positive for his well-being. All this new energy, the new intensity on the field, records being broken again – and then this. Working out in Alabama? At what point did Roddy lose that team feeling that showed all last year? Work with your team and look at the bigger picture and know that you will get what your put into it. His contract will be extended and increased, but let it happen man, don’t start to mess with the moxie this team is building.
I like that TD and Smit aren’t scared to move forward – they know contractually he’s here this year and if he isnt game ready, well…..It is what it is.
Man – Harry Douglas going down. I was real excited about this guy. He was another speedy scrapper on the field that could make a play at any time – what a loss. I do think the idea of having Norwood do some slot, he has excellent speed and good hands……Somethings gotta happen.
And, for the record – I think curses are for the birds………wait…..I don’t much believe in them, rather.
TheManMike
August 6th, 2009
5:07 pm
Got to love the foreshadowing MB…
JJ
August 6th, 2009
5:10 pm
MB – there you go again!!!lol
me
August 6th, 2009
5:11 pm
In Dimitroff we trust!
Ry
August 6th, 2009
5:12 pm
I hope Ferguson is not the end of it. I think a lot of people underestimate the impact that Douglas had last year and was expected to have this year. He added another wrinkle for defenses with his speed and was a good return guy. Also, without Roddy they do not have anyone that can stretch the defense downfield.
Turtsnap
August 6th, 2009
5:13 pm
While I was upset to hear about HD’s injury, lets keep it in perspective here….. He was the number 3 wide receiver. The more critical thing is to get Roddy’s butt into camp and hope that his little holdout doesn’t turn into Jamal’s ordeal in ‘99…. if you’ll remember, he held out for more money in ‘99, late to camp and blew out his knee.
I think we are ok without HD at number 3, where it hurts the most is the kick returning game. That is where HD was the factor last year. Please don’t resign Adam Jennings :O)
Ry
August 6th, 2009
5:14 pm
Turtsnap, I agree 100%.
boo hoo
August 6th, 2009
5:18 pm
Somewhere, Mike Vick cries.
LOLOLOL
Panties in a wad
August 6th, 2009
5:22 pm
Mark Bradley- “Ferguson might not be the end of it. Just sayin’.”
If I had a job to go to I would be so mad at you right now.
Panties in a wad
August 6th, 2009
5:23 pm
You need to get the IT guys to see about adding a “Quote” button. Would save us all some typing.
JerryRice
August 6th, 2009
5:31 pm
To Greedy White: Like a rotten apple you must remove it from the batch before it spoils the whole bunch. Rotten “apple” white is a process that needed to take place. Roddy thinks he is a stud, so he says, “Look world, look at me, I am the greatest wide receiver in the game today”; discounting the fact that Larry Fitzgerald has the greatest skills and the greatest hands to ever play the game. So Roddy deceived himself into thinking, I am the best receiver in the game today so I must get paid more money than anyone. That is a lie that will never be accepted by anyone. Roddy is a good wide receiver. He is nowhere near a great wide receiver. I think Roddy ranks between 20-30 in the league. I know there are at least 19 widouts who are better than White so White should be paid correspondinly to his position in the pecking order of talent and skills and not a penny more than that.
Mike Franklin
August 6th, 2009
5:36 pm
As a fan since 1968, I have to ask myself whether bowing down to kiss Roddy White in his wallet is worth it. My answer is no.
Someday, we’ll have the right mix. Good coaching, good offense, good defense, the perfect schedule. But for now? Roddy ain’t Jesus and sure as heck not worth what he is asking. I’d rather see the Falc’s hire Mike Vick as a Wide Out than roll over for that no catching, no training, easy at home Roddy.
Panties in a wad
August 6th, 2009
5:44 pm
Did the Bears sign Matt Jones or is he still a free agent?
tupac elliot
August 6th, 2009
5:50 pm
Hey those jinx days are gone. Injuries are a part of the game….The Falcons will be a successful team and francise….you nay sayers get another team….Go Falcons!
Gumbo
August 6th, 2009
5:53 pm
I know this is a CHEAP SHOT, but notice which part of Tony is closest to Ms. Okmin……
Get in Camp, Roddy!! Time to take one for the Team
tupac elliot
August 6th, 2009
5:54 pm
ya know Mark,,,,didnt you start this crap by agreeing with that Roddy hold out of camp….dang…..man, look what you did…he actually stakes his claim on a sports reporter……too bad for him…..let him play video games in Ala….does he not see the fans dont appreciate what he is doing to the chemistry of the TEAM!
tupac elliot
August 6th, 2009
5:59 pm
Hey AB , coach Smitty, And TD,,,,,show lil raddy that them ole days are gone ..Falcons are on a new horizon….lil raddy signed that contract, didnt bat an for two and a half seasons, (he was probably worried he was gonna get cut….) sind him out to Raiders..get rid of that cancer!!!! The cure is dont give in…..!!!!!!! Set the precedent, however, when a player deserves his due, set precedent there too! Go FAlcons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dawgfan1911
August 6th, 2009
6:05 pm
Remember when Roddy was a bust who dropped passes all over the field his first couple years and everyone wanted to say he was a bust. They stuck with him and continued to believe in him and in return this is what they get a premadona receiver who thinks he deserve Fitzgerald type money. He could at least show up to camp, he is under contract. I know it is a business, but show some loyalty towards the team that continued to support you through your rough professional moments, dont give them your ass to kiss. I am sure the Falcons will take care of Roddy after the season starts. I am more dissappointed in him than anything.
Mike Vick Curse
August 6th, 2009
6:30 pm
I warned you fools…………
V-O-O-D-O-O!!!!
2004 & Counting!
Roddy White
August 6th, 2009
6:32 pm
Arthur please cut me! I want to go play with Joe Flacco so I can win playoff games.
Please Arthur………….
C U T—–M E !
GT GRAD
August 6th, 2009
6:34 pm
Vick would be a GREAT wideout, punt return specialist and kick-off return specialist…….if he would agree and have a good attitude about these postions, I say sign him up! QB no way…….he is just not talented enough at ALL aspects to be an effective QB in the NFL.
Marvin Harrison: Yes for the right money.
Marshall (from Denver): Yes for the right money and reasonable draft pick in the trade.
Roddy: Sign him to a $5M/year deal with incentives which allow him to reach $10M/year if he meets or exceeds set goals (ALL of the NFL, NBA & MLB contracts should use reasonable base salaries with automatic bonuses if the player meets or exceeds specific goals for each given year).
Go Falcons!
Matt Jones
August 6th, 2009
6:39 pm
Sign me Arthur Blank…..oh hold up **sniff**…..**snort snort**…..
Okay what was I saying?
Shane
August 6th, 2009
6:39 pm
So you’re JerryRice
What’s that mean to you, Shane?
I’ve heard about you.
What have you heard, Shane?
I’ve heard that you’re a low-down, Yankee liar
JT
August 6th, 2009
6:40 pm
Hopefully the dirty birds will continue the trend of being losers after they have a winning season. There’s no team that’s worse than Atlanta and there’s no city that’s more ghetto and pathetic.
GT GRAD
August 6th, 2009
6:42 pm
I didn’t really graduate, hell I didn’t even attend Georgia Tech – I just like to appear to be not a total jackass
JT
August 6th, 2009
6:45 pm
Atlanta is too “ghetto” yet I’m too broke to move. Oh God I’m living in the ghetto!
Brian Finneran
August 6th, 2009
6:46 pm
Hey Matty I’m open, throw the ball…….oh dang another ACL!
myra
August 6th, 2009
6:47 pm
Saw camp today. D.J. looookin good. John Parker W. not so bad. Redman not too good. And Matty Ice? Very good but also threw some pics.
Your welcome
Julius Peppers
August 6th, 2009
6:49 pm
Hey Matty, I can hardly wait!
Do you like your ribs medium or well done?
DJ Shockley
August 6th, 2009
6:53 pm
Myra thank you for having some football knowledge. Maybe this preseason I will actually get a start like I was promised last year.
Don’t be so hard on Matty, those picks were not his fault – Roddy usually bailed him out.
jb4falcons
August 6th, 2009
6:53 pm
The Patriots lose their QB Brady in the 1st game of the season. Probably the best QB in football.Their leader is down. What do they do? They simply matched our Falcons record and go 11-5 somehow missing the playoffs. What does this say? We will have back to back winning seasons. Yes, this time it is different. There are no such things as a jinx. It is what it is.
JJ
August 6th, 2009
6:53 pm
Roddy couldn’t hold Fitzgerald’s jock. He needs to get his rear in camp.
myra
August 6th, 2009
6:54 pm
And one more thing…why not Marvin Harrison? If any one had something to proveit would be him…….but if hes askin too much then fugetaboutit
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
6:57 pm
tupac elliot
August 6th, 2009
5:54 pm
ya know Mark,,,,didnt you start this crap by agreeing with that Roddy hold out of camp….dang…..man, look what you did…he actually stakes his claim on a sports reporter……too bad for him…..let him play video games in Ala….does he not see the fans dont appreciate what he is doing to the chemistry of the TEAM!
This one had nothing to do with me, Tupac. I never wrote that Roddy White should hold out.
Georgia On My Mind
August 6th, 2009
6:58 pm
Now that we know who the Falcons signed…here is a more important question: Why did it take so long for Selma Hayak to get married and so little time to get pregnant? Anyone?
Tampa Gator
August 6th, 2009
7:02 pm
Heck, I am so mad that the Falcons didn’t sign Ike Hillard that I am going to take out the crowbar in my car and assault the next person that drives by my house.
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
7:03 pm
Mitun
August 6th, 2009
4:34 pm
hey MB… Do you think WR Reggie Williams fit for ATL?
He might well be a fit, Mitun, if not for him being on probation on a drug charge.
Roddy White here and listen up, dog
August 6th, 2009
7:17 pm
I am really just ticked off because Tony Gonzalez is camp and is going to take away some of my “prime time” catches this year, just when T.O. got moved to the Buff-town up NY way and no longer can steal “my time” on ESPN Sunday night highlights. And you know, I am the new highlight film now, Fitz or no Fitz. I am now the NFL’s “prime time” receiver and ye all know it, too. I tried on Fitz’s jock strap. Way too small man!
me
August 6th, 2009
7:21 pm
JT do us all a favor and go “play” in the road…in the ghetto…. if nothing happens in a hour, just keep playing.
Roddy the @@@HOLE
August 6th, 2009
7:22 pm
Hey, you folks who continue to buy the overpriced tickets to overpay these greedy overpaid basturds are the reason they keep asking for more. As for me, I told the money grubbing @@@holes to shove it 5 years ago by cancelling my season tickets!
JJ
August 6th, 2009
7:23 pm
JJ
August 6th, 2009
6:53 pm
You’re stealing my name, pic another! I’ve spent yrs tarnishing my name, dont need your help! The real JJ (go wareagles!)
bigeasy830
August 6th, 2009
7:48 pm
When Harry Douglass hurt his knee, Matt Ryan used an expletive, what did he say, “Oh Gee golly gosh darn’it”. HAHAHAHAHA. Roddy, imagine you going over the middle and noodle arm Ryan throwing a weak pass that flutters and hangs you out to dry for a safety to bust you up before you sign a new contract. I bet you after that pass Harry Douglass wish it was Michael Vick throwing it to him instead of old Matt “Noodle Arm” Ryan. You better stay home Roddy until you get your money.
Falcons, 4-12 in 2009
“Back To Life, Back To Reality”
Michael
August 6th, 2009
7:49 pm
“Were these the Pittsburgh Steelers”…If these were the Pittsburgh Steelers?
Stop using were over If…it bothers the bajeezes out of me!! I could take up your job right now and do better.
Also, let us not get down on the Falcons so fast. William Moore is out for a month and will be healthy by at least week 2 of the regular season from what I predict. Sure, losing Harry is tough but someone will fill in for him. And, Thomas DeCoud has been impressive and heading that safety position anyways.
Let’s not get our pants in a tangle. Everyone has injuries, it is part of the game. If Matty Ice gets indicted for killing his dogs, then I will say “here we go again”
Until that time, I am behind this team. They are younger, but more athletic than last year. And let’s not forget, despite what those pundits say, that Atlanta was NEVER blown out last year. They were in every single game they played into the 4th quarter. I believe they will be just as competitive this year.
We just are not used to having such a staple quarterback. With Ryan and coach Smith will come consistency
JJ
August 6th, 2009
7:54 pm
fishyfishyfishy, not tonight!
JJ
August 6th, 2009
8:01 pm
Michael – “in TD we trust!”
Tampa Gator
August 6th, 2009
8:04 pm
Note to Roddy White: Many players who hold out when they have existing signed contracts either come in with less money later (due to the fines) or sign a contract that they would have received if they had come in orignially and participated in camp. Also, many who do hold out and then come in get hurt seriously in camp and miss the season anyway…or worse, the injury ends their career in football. Either way, it is not a good thing for you to be holding out right now, no matter what your agent is telling you. Get into camp. Get into condition. Continue to produce at a high level, with consistency (one or two years does not make you one of the best receivers in the NFL), and you will get the money you deserve, either from the Falcons or from another team through free agency. What you are doing is not good for you or the team. It might be good for your agent, however. Have you thought about that? Sucks, you are already a millionaire. Have you forgotten already how excited you were when you were drafted by the Falcons and signed that big bonus when the Falcons didn’t even know if you could cut it in the NFL…and you almost didn’t. But they had faith in you and got you a good QB to throw you the football. Now, you are holding out…for what? More money for you…or for your agent? Get your butt into camp.
43 Years Of Failure
August 6th, 2009
8:06 pm
Destiny cannot be denied!
MightyQuinn
August 6th, 2009
8:22 pm
Hmmm. Just got back to the blog after my 4:06 post asking what happened to the Falcons in the ‘81 season that caused them to go from 12-4 in ‘80 to 7-9 in ‘81. Thanks MB for clearing up the Andrews knee injury, but still, what happened? I can’t remember any significant injuries. Not that there weren’t any, I just can’t remember. (Its happening a lot more these days!)
Reality Time
August 6th, 2009
8:51 pm
Bradley, didn’t you break a Braves’ lose when you went to the ballgame recently? Wasn’t everything going swimmingly at Flowery Branch until you went to camp? Mark, stay home will you!
tim
August 6th, 2009
8:59 pm
Whether you like it or not, White has proven himself to be a top 10 WR over the past 2 seasons. And the NFL is all about what have you done for me lately, so there is really know need to bring up Whites first two season. Honestly, the Falcons are really lucky to have gotten the production out of him the past two season for the price they are paying him.
When you look at the situation, the Falcons have little leverage and this is even before the injury to Douglas. I looked at Whites stats for the past two seasons, and his stats are right there with Steve Smith and Boldin of the Cardins. Boldin has 2 years and 12 mil left on his deal and Smith signed at 3 year $38 mil extention in 2007. If you do the math, you will see that the Falcons have gotten over the past 2 season paying White less than $3 mil a season. The part that really baffles me is that the Falcons gave Jenkins, the #2 WR a 4 year 20mil contract last season. They are damn near paying Jenkins what Boldin is currently making. How can you blame White for holding out. Currently, White has no longer term deal and make 2 mil less than the #2WR. We just saw what happend to Douglas. If White was already making 5 or 6 million a year, I would say he needs to be in camp and let his agent take care of it, but the man is making less than 3 million a season. Damn Falcons, don’t screw this up.
MightyQuinn
August 6th, 2009
9:01 pm
I’m guessing either nobody knows or nobody cares about the ‘80 to ‘81 falloff for the Falcons, but I did a little research. The Falcons lost 9 games that year by a total of 44 points. 7 of those losses were by a total of 19 points! (one loss by 1 point, two by two points, three by 3 points and one by 5 points) I still haven’t found a written history on the internet for that season and the AJC archives only go back to ‘85. But it seems like they may have just had a lot of bad luck. In another weird note to the season, apparently Andrews and Bartkowski set rushing and passing single game records (at the time) of 198 and 416 yards respectively in the worst LOSS of the season, 34-20 to the Steelers. 600 yards of offense and only 20 points and loss to show for it. Yep. We’re jinxed.
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
9:10 pm
I wasn’t in Atlanta in 1981, but watching from afar — well, from Lexington, Ky, which is 367 miles away — I seem to remember a basic problem: The Falcons could score but couldn’t defend. And I wrote a little something about that season as possible antecedent to this a couple of months ago.
Not that anyone should pay attention to anything I write.
Joseph Russo
August 6th, 2009
9:18 pm
Trade Roddy’s crying butt to the redbirds for boldin. pay him. at least hes really a top 5 reciever. Mike Vick wasnt the best qb in the world but, if anybody still remebers…we were the one sayin he was a bust before #2 showed up. You really think a wideout gets that good in one year? Hes good, but boldin is better. pay him.
MightyQuinn
August 6th, 2009
9:33 pm
In ‘81 the Falcons won shootouts of 31-30 and 31-27, and lost 30-28, 27-24 and most notably, 37-35. (Incredibly, we were plus 71 in points differential that year, 426-355, yet went 7-9!) We definitely could see something of a repeat of history this year if Mike Smith isn’t able to whip the young’uns into shape, as you noted in your column of yours you linked. (I read your stuff, Mark!)
Burger Brian
August 6th, 2009
9:53 pm
Look ~ Harry was a loss for sure! That said, Roddy will be back new deal or not ~ is he really going to hold out all year? No way! There may be a half dozen receivers thru the Branch before opening day ~ bottom line is ~ the offense is not what you should be concerned about ~ it’s all about the “D”. Can Smitty work his magic two years in a row?
sam
August 6th, 2009
10:11 pm
Hey Mark, didn’t Jamal Anderson also hold out for a new contract the year he was injured? I always wondered if that might have contributed.
Vick Supporter
August 6th, 2009
10:16 pm
The Great Mike Vick Has Returned
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
10:18 pm
Quinn, didn’t I just tell you not to read anything I write? (But thanks for doing so.)
Yes, Sam. Jamal indeed held out that season. And a lot of folks have wondered if what happened that Monday night in Dallas would have happened if he’d gotten to camp on time. But we’ll never know.
You might also recall T.J. Duckett holding out as a rookie and being injured after he was assaulted following a Nelly concert in Michigan.
oh yeah
August 6th, 2009
10:46 pm
Check the Grits Blitz defense in 1978. Lost in the playoffs to the cowboys,
for real
August 6th, 2009
10:48 pm
Watch out vick huggers, ron mexico has an outbreak. Since your all down there…
Vick Supporter
August 6th, 2009
11:21 pm
Looks like you people are going to get a serving of Roman Noodle passes this year, with no one to catch them,lol.
Vick 09
Question
August 6th, 2009
11:30 pm
Mark, would the Falcons be willing to contact the 49ers about Crabtree? Do you think that’s something that would be an option? I would think they could afford to give up a draft pick or two, maybe a 1st and 4th? I would think bringing in someone like Crabtree at this stage would be a good thing. Given it would give Ryan a reciever that he would know would be with him for the next several years. They could build a lot of chemistry. I’d throw a 2nd and 3rd round pick their way and see what conversations come out of those discussions. I’m sure the 49ers would be more willing to move him and get something for him rather then see him leave and re-enter the draft. What are your thoughts on this?
Arkansas Transplant
August 6th, 2009
11:34 pm
Mark, are you in a position to ask Smith or Dim about Crabtee? Just wondering. That would be a quick fix and a permanent fix.
Mark Bradley
August 6th, 2009
11:35 pm
I don’t think the Falcons have any interest in Eric Crabtree.
Arkansas Transplant
August 6th, 2009
11:40 pm
Not Eric, Micheal Crabtree.
Arkansas Transplant
August 6th, 2009
11:43 pm
I think he’d be a good option. He brings a lot to the table as a WR. He’s got size, good hands, and route running. The only hit on him would be speed. He’s not going to be a blazer but he’s not slow either.
PMC
August 6th, 2009
11:44 pm
Maybe they could sign Koren Robinson…. then when the team goes to NO he can hook up with Rod Coleman and they can cruise for Deer.
Arkansas Transplant
August 6th, 2009
11:46 pm
Have you had any discussions with the team on what they plan to do with the WR core? Have they mentioned or hinted at a possibility of a trade?
greg
August 6th, 2009
11:49 pm
500 team at best just like the braves….who wants to make a bet…50 to 1
glenn
August 7th, 2009
12:01 am
All through the 80’s they used to show those Alcoa fantastic finishes . The two they played the most were a game where Herm Edwards recovered a fumble in the endzone for a late win against New York & Danny White beating the Falcons in that 78 playoff game . We were up 10 points with like 5 minutes to play . I used to get so angry .
Ted Striker
August 7th, 2009
12:35 am
My good buddy, Mark: I didn’t recall Duckett being assaulted after a Nelly concert. I was once assaulted following a Tom Jones concert — but I loved every moment of it.
Tim from EP
August 7th, 2009
4:38 am
I can’t believe you guys are completely ignoring the fact that our #2 WR currently makes $2million more than Roddy White and Jenkins stats are no where close to Roddy White’s. Roddy White has no long term deal. Why should he be in camp for $2.8 million when his stats are comparable to WRs who go 30million contracts are better. I can’t any help on this Mark. I know Roddy shouldn’t get A 40 million dollar contract like Fitzgerld, but its almost embrassing to have your Pro Bowl WR holding out cuz you paying 2.8 million a year and you just have Jenkins a 20 million dollar extention. Have you really seen Jenkins stats since he has been in the league. For a 1st rounder-Jenkins stats are nothing to brag about.
Mark Bradley
August 7th, 2009
8:38 am
I don’t think the Falcons have any interest in Michael Crabtree, either. (FYI, Eric Crabtree was also a WR for the Bengals back in the ’70s. And I had a flashback.)
IDC
August 7th, 2009
12:02 pm
Tim from EP: They are not asking White to play for $2.8 million. You don’t know what the Falcons have offered the man. I am pretty sure they offered him more than they are paying Jenkins. I am also pretty sure that White is asking for more than he is worth. The usual procedure is to meet in the middle, but to do that you need a show of good faith. Holding out is not a show of good faith. He needs to get in camp, they will give him more money.
Hms
August 8th, 2009
9:46 am
Mark,
Thanks for writing a negatively charged article about the Falcons. Guys like Vick Supporter and BigEasy 830 really needed something to cling to, besides their hate. Their greatest fear is that the Falcons might actually be good two years in a row, or even more. But you have given them new hope.
Mark you are to be commended. Nobody’s done something so nice for a couple of retards since Jerry Lewis.
terrell barnicle
August 8th, 2009
9:53 am
Guess who is playing for an NFL team? Robert Ferguson. Guess who isn’t? Mike Vick. Vick ‘09. Yeah whatever.
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