Report: Marvin to stay a Hawk, and that’s more good news

Marvin Williams will remain a Hawk, according to a report by Marc Spears on Yahoo! Sports. Hawks general manager Rick Sund would not confirm a deal had been reached Wednesday night, but the sides seem very close to a signed contract.

(Indeed, that’s the word Williams used in a text message to AJC colleague Sekou Smith on Wednesday — “close.” And Williams told Sekou via text he’s hopeful something works out.)

The proposed contract, Spears reported, is for “about $40 million over five seasons,” although that $40 million is believed to include incentives. As a restricted free agent, Williams could have accepted the Hawks’ qualifying offer of $7.5 million and become an unrestricted free agent in July 2010. A long-term agreement would mean the Hawks have locked up a 23-year-old who averaged 13.9 points last season and is still regarded as a developing talent — and have done for essentially the qualifying offer times five.

If Williams does stay, the Hawks will have retained three of their four key free agents — Mike Bibby and Zaza Pachulia have re-signed, and Flip Murray now seems surplus to requirements — and added guard Jamal Crawford in the same offseason. And that would make this just about the greatest summer in Hawks history.

Assuming Williams re-signs, the Hawks would enter the 2009-2010 season having kept seven of their top eight players from a team that won 47 games and finished fourth in the NBA East. At a time when the three teams that finished above the Hawks — Cleveland, Boston and Orlando — have made major offseason acquisitions, Sund had to hold his core together if the Hawks were to stand any chance of moving upward. And it appears he has.

The belief here was that the Hawks would consider this summer a success if they re-upped two of the four free agents and a windfall if they could keep three. They’re close to doing that now, and this city is that much closer to having a NBA team that we can view as a team capable of reaching the Eastern Conference finals, something the Hawks have never done.

The work doesn’t end here. Joe Johnson will become an unrestricted free agent and Al Horford a restricted free agent next summer. But Sund, who was hired 13 months ago, is within one signature of having not just passed a difficult test but aced it. And when last could we say that about any Hawks GM? Like, ever?

156 comments Add your comment

JC

July 29th, 2009
6:52 pm

Good to hear! We need to go ahead and fill the big man void. Get Joe Smith on board and at Othello Hunter and Garret Siler. I will like our chances to improve on this past year’s win total.

Hawk Str8Talk

July 29th, 2009
6:56 pm

Mark, I know you have to sell papers and get eyeballs online, but greatest summer ever! One that doesn’t project to add one single win more than last season. Either that statement screams that we’ve never had even a ‘good’ offseason in Hawks history OR that you’ve taken this re-signing our core players to an extreme. I’d say that acing the test would have been improving ANY of the areas that were the biggest issues for us last season. Until I see a signing that fixes our rebounding, interior depth, leadership, toughness, and backup point guard issues OR until you tell me we convinced an elite coach to join this organization – I think saying ‘greatest summer ever’ is taking things a little far. http://www.hawkstr8talk.com

J.J.M.

July 29th, 2009
6:57 pm

James

July 29th, 2009
6:57 pm

I played in the Association and the Hawks just threw 40 million dollars down the drain.

niremetal

July 29th, 2009
6:59 pm

Wait…how can Bradley think this is a good thing. I thought Marvin wasn’t…ASSERTIVE.

Steven DD

July 29th, 2009
7:00 pm

Thats awesome! Now who is that ‘big’ going to be that everyone keeps talking about?

BrittishAnger

July 29th, 2009
7:02 pm

bob

July 29th, 2009
7:04 pm

Crowning moment of the offseason. Hallelujah!

This kid will be a steal in 1 year +

BrittishAnger

July 29th, 2009
7:05 pm

G-g-g-gangsta! The core is maintained…now to strengthen the bench with one final big man beyond RandMo and we’re beautiful!….SIGN SILER….DO IT!!!!

thirdfalcon

July 29th, 2009
7:06 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Hawksstr8talk

Jon Kontract

July 29th, 2009
7:06 pm

How about the summer we ended up with Moses Malone and Reggie Theus. That was a pretty sweet summer. Unfortunately we need to win in June, not July and August.

A Tribe Called Quest

July 29th, 2009
7:08 pm

LOL @ this. You are the same guy who said we don’t need him back — now you are praising this move

Reid Adair

July 29th, 2009
7:08 pm

This is good news, but in fairness, while Orlando did make a “major offseason acquisition,” they also lost a critical player.

Dan

July 29th, 2009
7:15 pm

Nice!! Sund is doing a great job! Add Joe Smith and let’s roll…

brad

July 29th, 2009
7:16 pm

Why does everyone keep saying that Orlando improved? They lost 3 starters from a team that made to Finals (Hedo, Courtney Lee, and Alston) and have added Vince Carter. Carter can score, but is he a huge upgrade over Hedo? Who replaces Courtney Lee and Rafer Alston?

buddy c

July 29th, 2009
7:17 pm

are the hawks still pursuing flip? our backcourt could be incredibly deep if so. comments?

The Grinch

July 29th, 2009
7:23 pm

Getting a coach will be more important than signing Marvin.

GT Falcon

July 29th, 2009
7:30 pm

Hope this really happens. Good news. I like Marv

Mash

July 29th, 2009
7:31 pm

Mark, this is great news for the 2009-2010 season. However, I do question willingness to spend so freely knowing the cap will go down this year, not to mention go way down the next year. This is why the Crawford deal isn’t as great as the soft local media make it out to be. Golden State did a classic salary dump in that deal. Sund will be in the same position next summer.
Will there be any money left over to re-sign Joe Johnson next year?

Mr. A

July 29th, 2009
7:36 pm

I am with you The Grinch!!!!! now that firing would have been the greatest summer ever! I guess we will have to wait until next summer! Because until this happens .. this rest won’t matter!!!!

mike

July 29th, 2009
7:43 pm

great news.. anyone that follows the hawks and knows their strengths and weaknesses knows this is a good move.. marvin has gotten better every year…you guys so how much we struggled without him in the playoffs… now lets hope he is fully healed..

BrittishAnger

July 29th, 2009
7:51 pm

Salary cap won’t matter depending on how we build around what we’ve got in regards to getting Joe back. While we won’t be a fifteen deep team anytime soon (which is a result of cost-minded management more than actual economic problems), that will probably be the major reason Joe would resign with us, the flexibility we’ve got right now puts us in good contention to resign him with the age factored in and the possible losses of Mo Evans and Randolph Morris included. Even considering we might lose him, I would not be sad at that prospect given the opportunity to try and sneak a few deals in during next years “free-agent frenzy”. Joe does amazing things, granted, but his leadership has been an issue for me since I started following the team in earnest again last season. I’m also very tired of the infamous “Iso-Joe” idea, and feel we need a better offensive scheme which is team oriented and not player oriented, and losing Joe to implement that is a cost worth amortizing. Sure, he averages the best numbers of any of our players during the regular season, but will it always be that way, and considering his age will he be that same player two or three years from now as well? Plus, what happens if he has another of those “minor injuries” that limit his numbers the way they did after mid-season? Don’t let the numbers fool you, we’re in a plenty good position to maintain this core for at least a couple more seasons before somebody does what they did in Detroit and implodes the team and rebuilds, but losing Joe to see Marvin, Josh, and Al improve their numbers, and to give us flexibility to build the deepest young Darkhorse team in the East, I’d take that with a grain of salt and a shot of Jager…..

BrittishAnger

July 29th, 2009
7:54 pm

Oh, and Mark, you’re a poof for Indian giving on Marvin…the “Handsome Bob” kinda poof….

niremetal

July 29th, 2009
7:59 pm

Lol…I didn’t even know people used the term “Indian giver” anymore.

Mark Bradley

July 29th, 2009
8:05 pm

I’m not the biggest Marvin fan, as you know. But I would consider it remarkable if the Hawks do indeed keep seven of their top eight players when four of the eight were free agents.

BrittishAnger

July 29th, 2009
8:08 pm

It seemed like the only vocabulary word worth using in the situation…I’m surprised nobody noticed my use of the word “Amortize”…..

BrittishAnger

July 29th, 2009
8:09 pm

Alright Bradley, I’ll leave you alone for now…for “now”….

Mitun

July 29th, 2009
8:10 pm

whats plan B if the Hawks are unable to sign a big man in the free agent market?

bsure

July 29th, 2009
8:10 pm

Marvin is a good signing. If he can avoid the injuries that keep him out for an extended time, I think he is capable of being an all-star.

Braindawg

July 29th, 2009
8:11 pm

Good move Hawks, but we still, need a big man to match up with Lebron…..

howie

July 29th, 2009
8:17 pm

This is very good news…..50 wins seems very reasonable and given the way the Hawks have stepped up and signed these 3 guys and added Crawford, I have confidence that they will add one more big body. Before this off season, we would not have any reason to think this would all happen.

Marvin, Josh, Al and Zaza are all young enough to keep getting better as they mature and play together…I think it will be a good season that will be fun.

We need to add a little more depth…playing rotation of 10 instead of 8…and run more….but what do I know?

Mark Bradley

July 29th, 2009
8:22 pm

Does Joe Smith count as a big man? Because he’s about the best the Hawks are apt to find — a jump shooter who’ll play 10 or 12 minutes per game.

James

July 29th, 2009
8:33 pm

The Hawks hasn’t really gotten better this offseason to me they basically re-signed the same players who was the reason why they got swept in the second round by the cavs and the same team that barely got passed a young miami heat team.

The hawks could had went after Tyson Chandler but noooooooo they let Charlotte get him.

I like what the hawks did in advancing this past season but I think this upcoming season they will have a lower seed probably 7th or 8th or maybe not even make the playoffs. Alot of the bad teams that were in the east have gotten better and that is going to push the hawks back in the standings.

mudcat47

July 29th, 2009
8:34 pm

Sund is doing great. No crazy trades or questionable free agent signings. These young Hawks are fun to watch and that’s what helps put butts in the seats. That plus winning. Looks like I’ll be seeing more live games this year and that’s what the community needs to do, support this team with actions, not just words.

BrittishAnger

July 29th, 2009
8:36 pm

If Marvin were to become a defensive oriented SF in the style of what Tayshaun does, but with the muscle to go with the length, LeBronnington wouldn’t be as problematic as he makes himself out to be. Besides, the way you beat Charles LeBronson isn’t in beating him, it’s in beating his teammates. Schise, use the old Philly design with AI and you’ll get what I mean; Lebron can go off for forty or fifty points in a game, sure, but you restrict the other players on the team to 20 or less, and you’re offense can break down their walls to put up a solid 80 on them, the game is yours. This is exactly what didn’t happen during the Hawks blow out game against Orlando last season, you know, the one where the Magic set a franchise and NBA record for 3-Point FG’s made in a half, and made us look as deplorable as we did during the 13 and whatever season we had when Woody arrived? The star on a team is only as good as his teammates, Iverson’s lack of a title in Philly proves that, as does Clevelands departure against Orlando when nobody else stepped up beyond Lebronenstein. The guys a monster, but if you make the monster squad look like a bunch of Marty Feldman’s, nobody’s gonna care which side your hump is on…..

BosnianBaller

July 29th, 2009
8:41 pm

Well this news just ruined my night

ILL-logical

July 29th, 2009
8:44 pm

Marvin’s signing was delayed because he had to fight his way past all of the FA lining up outside Mr. Sund’s office eagerly trying to join the Hawks.

Seriously, a good move because with all of the players signed , they all can be dealt without major issues and when the Woodson era ends. Players like Bibby, Marvin and Joe become less valuable to the Hawks if a new coach utilizes an offense built around the speed and athleticism.
The aforementioned players provide management with the means to acquire the suitable replacements who will fit into that type of offense.

Atl Resident

July 29th, 2009
8:54 pm

I’m not big Marv fan, but it’s good for chemistry of the team he’s coming back. Let’s go Hawks!

Aceballa

July 29th, 2009
9:04 pm

This is wonderful, Marvin coming back was the biggest move this season. He is 23 years old jus think how good he will be in 5 years. All the hawks need to do now is sign flip, joe smith and siler or another big and the hawks will be in contention 4 the eastern conference finals

rick berry

July 29th, 2009
9:10 pm

Bad move by the Hawks. His butt is too big. He’s probably worth $2 million/year. He’s definitely not worth the number 2 pick in a great draft which included Chris Paul and Deron Williams. We should’ve let the idiot go and go after Gortat or Brandon bass……..someone who will give the front line toughness.

Coach D

July 29th, 2009
9:12 pm

Player vs. scout: Two different things.
If given the ball more, and if he becomes more assertive/aggressive with the ball he could average 18-20 pts. a game. Woodson’s offense- “Iso. Joe” won’t let that happen. I just hope he’s totally healthy and stays healthy all year.

Coach D

July 29th, 2009
9:14 pm

Admitting the above “IF’s” are big.

The Truth

July 29th, 2009
10:23 pm

I mean seriously, did anybody doubt that Marvin would not resign as a Hawk? The headliner, if true, should be that it is a multi-year deal instead of the 1-year qualifying offer. In that regard, it is good news for Hawksville. The Hawks yield another long-term player from a first-round draft instead of a wasted pick. My enthusiasm is still on hold pending the signings of some bench frontline help. I am about to declare Sund the FA “garbage collector” at this point based on his success rate in the FA market since joining the organization. Last year, he produced Flip, Mo Evans and Morris. Flip was a good pick-up but it should have been a multi-year deal even after Flip fell in his lap. Let’s call his batting average 1-3. Since those deals happened late, similarly to this year, near the end of the FA period after all the gravy was taken; this “garbage collector” title seems to be appropriate. True, I give him some credit, he did acquire Crawford, but that was via a trade and not through FA. Most of our own FA has been retained, so he gets more credit. However, there has not been a big demand for high-price aging point guards regarding Bibby and Zaza was not the front-running “Big” in a down market in hindsight. So those in-house FA signings, though successful, may not have been as challenging. Let’s just say, as an analogy to a basketball player, Sund’s FA negotiation game still needs some work. I’m still waiting on Sund to prove me wrong.

gcs

July 29th, 2009
10:25 pm

Save some money for the Thrashers!!

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RCD

July 29th, 2009
10:25 pm

I think signing Marvin was a necessary move for political reasons (not necessarily player reasons) since the SF position could be filled by Josh Smith, Mo Evans, Joe Johnson, etc. particularly with the signing of Jamal Crawford. However, after passing on Chris Paul CP3, letting Marvin go would be an acknowledgment to everyone that he was a wasted pick of years past and a surrender of a 23-year talent that has not fully realized his potential. The Hawks are not much closer to winning the East or a Championship (unless Crawford and Teague surprise everyone), and the conference will definitely be tougher. Even signing Joe Johnson in the future, the team is now committed to this line-up and must hope that Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, and Marvin Williams all develop their games for prime time. At this juncture in time, I would have preferred signing a Brandon Bass, a Boozer, a Millsap. Millsap is getting $32M for 4 years from Utah, and now we are giving $40M to Marvin for 5 years. Based on the team’s needs, Millsap may have been a great “dirt” guy who would have been a solution to the Hawks’ ongoing big man issue. Bibby, J. Johnson, J. Smith, Millsap, & Horford with Pachulia, Crawford, Evans, Teague off the bench. Not too shabby, and then you would have no problem letting Jamal Crawford jacking up shots. Let’s hope Marvin really puts the pressure on himself to get much better. Otherwise, not picking CP3 in the draft will continue to haunt the Hawks for the next decade.

willie

July 29th, 2009
10:47 pm

Great offseason…..now get Joe signed! He is an all-star caliber player (every year) in his prime at just 28. He needs to be priority number 1 now!

Doug

July 29th, 2009
10:52 pm

Marvin is much better than many on this site give him credit for. He has improved dramatically on the defensive end to the point that he is actually their best 1-on-1 perimeter defender. He is an excellent shooter…to the 3 pt line…has a developing post up game…is excellent from the FT line and is a great teammate. Now…he does need to get better off the dribble…he does need to be more assertive…he walks funny…has a big butt…but could EASILY be a 18-20 ppg guy if given that type of freedom and opportunity!

st simons

July 29th, 2009
11:12 pm

45-42 hahahahahahahaha!

michael

July 29th, 2009
11:12 pm

marvin needs to sign that contract…his back will give out way before the contract is up!

Native Son

July 29th, 2009
11:34 pm

Dear Hawks & Supporters
Please don’t sign Joe Smith. You talk about Marvin being a bust as a #2 pick. Joe Smith was definitely a bust as a #1 pick.
Thanks for listening.