OK, here’s MY list of the top 10 coaches (includes Richt!)

This morning’s post regarding Matt Hayesranking of the top college football coaches in Sporting News set me to thinking. (That’s never a good thing, but sometimes it happens.) “You, M. Bradley,” I said to myself, “need to do a list of your own.” And, possibly for the better but more probably for the worse, I have. Herewith, the inaugural edition of dumb ol’ MB’s Top 10 Coaches:

10. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma: Used to win all his big games; now loses all his big games. I wonder how he’d do in the SEC East. (Not well, I don’t think.)

9. Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech: Does what he does and does it wherever he goes. He and Jim Grobe of Wake Forest are the best pure coaches in the land.

8. Mark Richt, Georgia: I used to think a national championship was inevitable, and maybe it still is. But I can’t say Richt had his finest hour in 2008.

7. Les Miles, LSU: What can I say? The guy has grown on me. And I liked the action he took to fix his defense. (Feel free to make obvious Georgia comparison.)

6. Pete Carroll, Southern Cal: I know, I know. This seems a little low. But he loses way too many games he shouldn’t. He’s the antithesis of Vincent J. Dooley.

5. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech: How many games can you win with defense and blocked kicks? At last count, 176. (Plus two ties.)

4. Nick Saban, Alabama: I’m not sure he’s quite as great as his malignant aura would suggest — there’s only one Evil Genius, after all — but he’s really good.

3. Jim Tressel, Ohio State: Yeah, I know Ohio State looked awful against Florida and LSU. But the Buckeyes are about to win another BCS title soon enough.

2. Mack Brown, Texas: He has the rep of being just a recruiter, but does he recruit any better than Carroll? And who won when those two guys’ best teams met?

1. Urban Meyer, Florida: I don’t much care for him, either, but you can’t argue with the results. He has two national titles in less time than it took Steve Spurrier to win one.

Before I leave, let me anticipate a few questions. Who’s No. 11? The aforementioned Jim Grobe. Where’s Spurrier himself? Well, he’s coaching South Carolina, which renders him irrelevant in the grand scheme. And where’s Chris Petersen? Last I checked, he’s in Boise.

Update: Because I felt bad about making a list and leaving Grobe off it, I tacked on another five names. Here are my choices for Nos. 11-15.

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Sting 'em Buzz

July 14th, 2009
2:22 pm

Cool that the local schools are both represented well.

Robert Fitzhugh Lee

July 14th, 2009
2:32 pm

Hilarious how much envy comes out of the Dawg Nation studying that picture of Paul.

Erk’s protege – The same Erk who turned down Georgia’s offer to coach Athens in ‘84 – is building something special here in Dixie.

He’s producing national prominence through brainwashing toughness in the program. Georgia’s greatest weakness is Tech’s greatest strength.

And Paul’s celebrating it with a good ole’ stoge.

409 Yards 5 Touchdowns

Carry on,

Robert F. Lee

Art Vandelay

July 14th, 2009
2:33 pm

I’d put Kyle Whittingham of Utah at #11. He doesn’t have a huge body of work to analyze yet, but he looks like he was paying attention when he worked under Meyer. An undefeated season and nationally televised pantsing of Bama is strong evidence that this guy knows what he’s doing.

Jeff

July 14th, 2009
2:34 pm

Not sure why Paul Johnson makes this list. They beat us (UGA) 1 time in eight years, and all of a sudden Paul Johnson is the next Bobby Dodd. Give me a break. I totally agree with your list with two exceptions, Les Miles is NOT a better coach than Mark Richt(see our last two results against them…even last year when we were awful on D), and Paul Johnson shouldn’t even make it into the Top 20 list. Here is my list (in case you were curious, which I am sure you’re not):
1. Urban Meyer( I just threw up a little in my mouth)
2. Nick Saban (I really threw up in my mouth)
3. Jim Tressel
4. Bob Stoops
5. Pete Carroll
6. Mack Brown
7. Mark Richt
8. Frank Beamer
9. Les Miles
10. Joe Paterno (still winning lots of games in his 80s)

jimmy

July 14th, 2009
2:34 pm

fix your defense coach richt and move up the list

Otto

July 14th, 2009
2:35 pm

CMR needs to fix the stale play calling on offnese. The defense had reason to give up some points and wasn’t a problem in ‘07 but the offense was.

IMO Mack Brown is vastly overrated. He has his one national title thanks to Vince Young I doubt he sees another.

I would replace Beamer with Leach.

Tressel has done well against a falling Michigan and Coker at Miami. What is his record against the SEC or USC?

I think Petrino may move up on to the list.

If CMR did leave I would take Stoops in a second.

JB

July 14th, 2009
2:35 pm

Mark…..Ask yourself this….if you’re Meyer or Saban last year and you lost 25 or so players to injury, including just about the entire OL, Geno and Marcus Washington on D, Would THEY have done better than 10-3……??????? I think Mark did a pretty good job last year. That Team “SEEMED” to have not had any heart or Chemistry…I know it’s blah blah blah from our haters, but these are facts. I’m disappointed, but proud also !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robert Fitzhugh Lee

July 14th, 2009
2:37 pm

Paul Johnson racked up 409 yards and five touchdowns in Athens in his first damn year.

You think SI’s 3-9 prediction carried any wisdom with it? Well 409 yards 5 touchdowns is your answer.

Even though obscenely outmanned with talent according to Rivals and Scout, Tech will continue to outsprint, outmatch & most importantly out tough UGA. Quoting Schlabach, “Georgia Tech is tougher than Georgia.”

Paul instills toughness, Richt gives three game suspensions.

Carry on,
Robert F. Lee

JB

July 14th, 2009
2:38 pm

Pasting and sending that to Athens as we speak…..Keep’em coming Lee.

gatordc09

July 14th, 2009
2:39 pm

Mark – It seems like UGA is obssessed about beating FL and, in some ways, rightfully so. However, the obsession is going over the top.

Wasn’t Richt hired from FSU to beat FL? (2 out of 8 years..no, it has not paid off)

Art Vandelay

July 14th, 2009
2:40 pm

Jeff, Paul Johnson makes the list because his coaching career didn’t begin last year at Tech. He went 62–10 at Georgia Southern with two national championships, and had a 45-29 mark at Navy, which was a doormat before he showed up. And Les Miles has a national championship and a 4-0 mark in bowl games since he arrived at LSU. What has Richt done that compares? He’s a fine coach, but Johnson and Miles have more accomplishments to hang their hats on.

JB

July 14th, 2009
2:41 pm

Lot of folks other than Richt losing to Gators……..SI’s and CBS’s beloved ohio st., Mich. and S. Cal would likely have some lumps from Florida !

Tom

July 14th, 2009
2:42 pm

If you need bulletin board material, JB, you’re in more trouble than even I thought.

DawginLex

July 14th, 2009
2:43 pm

Carroll
Meyer
Brown
Stoops
Tressel
Richt
Saban
Miles
Paterno
Beamer
Whittingham

28.) Spurrier-oh how the mighty have fallen

Allen

July 14th, 2009
2:43 pm

Mark Richt should be Number 1 on that list. Georgia was the 2008 preseason champions. That alone shows how aweomse CMR truly is. What can Paul Johnson claim? Mark Richt is the man with the plan. How many awesome gimmicks like Black Out Day has Paul Johnson come up with? The triple option? That high school offense will never beat a real team. Paul Johnson doesn’t even have a spray on tan like CMR!

Carter S

July 14th, 2009
2:44 pm

Mark, the Dawg fans who are reading this (and those that can, are) are not going to be happy.

Bob

July 14th, 2009
2:44 pm

Lord help us. At least Stoops gets to Big Games. Mack Brown has won a single Big 12 title this decade. One. Ein. Une. Uno. And he is #2 and Pete Carroll is way down at where he is? Makes zero sense. In that same period, Carroll has won 7 PAC 10 titles, Saban 2 SEC titles, Richt 2 SEC titles, Stoops 6 Big 12 titles. Mack Brown is a great recruiter and a very, very good football coach. He is not remotely close to being #2.

wxwax

July 14th, 2009
2:45 pm

I don’t know what “best pure coach” means. That he can’t recruit?

Mark Bradley

July 14th, 2009
2:47 pm

They’ll get over it, Carter.

RxDawg

July 14th, 2009
2:47 pm

Good post Jeff. And I pretty much agree 90% with your list. I’d move Tressel down…way down.

I was actualy at the GSU when PJ beat Youngstown St and Jim Tressel in 98ish (maybe 99).

Mark Bradley

July 14th, 2009
2:47 pm

Best pure coach means you could plunk those coaches down in high school or Pop Warner and they’ll still be winning because they can teach the game.

ByteMe

July 14th, 2009
2:49 pm

You forgot the East Carolina coach who often has his guys playing way over their heads.

Jeff

July 14th, 2009
2:51 pm

Art…What was Miles’ record when they won the NC in 07? Same as UGAs. They backed into that just as UGA could have easily done that year. Richt has won 2 SEC titles and amassed an 82-22 overall record in 8 years in the SEC (not with Navy’s weak schedule). He has shared or won the toughest division in college football 4 of those 8 years (02,03,05,07), and he is 6-2 in bowl games. He has played in 3 BCS games winning twice.

Mark put Paul Johnson ahead of Bob Stoops. Are you telling me that GT would hire Paul Johnson before they would hire Bob Stoops. Give me a break. 1 win does not make a career. I agree that it is a big deal for GT to beat UGA at home. However, he doesn’t YET deserve to be mentioned with the rest of the coaches on this list. Navy and Georgia Southern are not the same caliber as SEC and ACC football, which Richt has been coaching his entire career.

RAMBLE ON!!!

July 14th, 2009
2:55 pm

Mark, WTF???

CPJ walked into Sanford and Son Stadium with an OL that had a couple of walk-ons and destroyed the fleabag nation with a bunch of Freshmen and Sophomores and you have him behind St. Richt who had the NFL number 1 and 15 pick. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!?!

Please, you know better. You don’t have to appease the Mutt Nation just because they are a bunch of crybabies and sore losers.

Revise this, you know better. They are going to cry no matter what you say.

Reid Adair

July 14th, 2009
2:56 pm

Solid list, Mark. I’m not sure I would have Jim Tressel at No. 3, but very well done. Paul Johnson is a much better coach than a lot of people give him credit for, and Bob Stoops peaked a few years ago.

Jeff

July 14th, 2009
2:56 pm

Rx…Sorry, I was born in OH and went to UGA. I still have a soft spot for the Big 10, and I am amazed at how Tressel has locked up that region of the country in recruiting. You’re probably right. I could move him down to 9. PJ still has some football to coach before I would put him anywhere near this list. I am not trying to bash or diminish his accomplishments.

Tom

July 14th, 2009
2:58 pm

Methinks EZ musta’ had ol’ Jeff in mind…..

“Georgia fans are passionate, but let’s face it – they’re not the brightest fans. Passionate, but not bright.” – Eric Zeier, Novemeber 21, 2001

Jeff

July 14th, 2009
3:02 pm

Reid…Bob Stoops has won 102 games in 9 years. Bob Stoops has won the Big 12 6 times since 2000. He has played for the NC 3 times. He has won the LAST 3 Big 12 titles. He played for the NC last year, and had the Heisman winner(who chose to come back and play another year instead of being the 1st pick in the NFL draft) last year. When exactly did he peak? Do you think PJ is capable of this?

Jeff

July 14th, 2009
3:06 pm

Reid…102 wins in 9 years. 6 Big 12 championships in 9 years(including the LAST 3 in a row). Played in 3 NC games including last years. If he peaked a few years ago, what is going on now? Also, turned out 2 Heisman winners. One of which chose to come back to school instead of being the top pick in the draft last year.

Otto

July 14th, 2009
3:09 pm

Quote: Hilarious how much envy comes out of the Dawg Nation studying that picture of Paul.

Funny the first 2 replies are from Tech fans. Talk about a man crush on a coach and envy of another school……

Michael

July 14th, 2009
3:09 pm

I know you’re playing to your readers, but I think neither Johnson nor Richt belong on the list. Not until Johnson wins something of consequence (beating Georgia once isn’t enough), and not until Richt manages to consistently get the best out of his team’s considerable talent (he did in 2002, 2005 and 2007, not so much in 2003, 2004 and 2008).

Gravy Train

July 14th, 2009
3:10 pm

Mark,

Why not factor in the character of the coach as well? I don’t think USC Pete is anywhere close to having the integrity of Richt. I don’t think Paul Johnson has done anything that Jim Donnan hasn’t, save coach in the SEC. Urban is what he is, an ego driven fraud as a sandbag recruiter who gets the most out of roster competition. I think they will miss Percy more than they think. Saban is just plain dirty…probation follows him like an Itallian named basketball coach. The sweater vested Dooley wanna be in Columbus is nothing more than media hype. He has Herbie spoon him every week on national television. Given that rationale Richt is clearly the top choice. There is no coach I would rather have my son play for, and to me that’s the bottom line.

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Mrs. Chanandler Bong

July 14th, 2009
3:12 pm

I’d move Jim Tressel down, although I do love his sweater vests. And move Joe-Pa up. Simply because he’s Joe-Pa. And I love his glasses.

OSU SUCKS

July 14th, 2009
3:12 pm

Ohio state is the most overrated team in history year in and year out. They cant compete in the south. They couldnt even be the top team last year in the sinking Big 10.

Otto

July 14th, 2009
3:13 pm

Reid, Stoops’ OU team held UF to fewer points than anyone in the SEC and they only lost by 10 UF’s narrowest margin of victory. Yes Stoops coached blew a few BCS bowls. But Stoops is still winning and another BCS title would not surprise me.

OSU SUCKS

July 14th, 2009
3:14 pm

UGA and yes, Georgia Tech, would roll on OSU.

dawg mc woofterson

July 14th, 2009
3:15 pm

The triple option will never work in college football. It’s not like it’s ever worked in the past. Plus, it’s totally unwatchable – 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn’t sell tickets, especially in a recession like this. You can’t win more than 6 games a year without a pro style passer, and you can never come from behind calling all run plays, so if you ever did get behind by more than 2 tds at the half the game is basically over. And also, seriously, the option will never work against SEC speed, it’s no wonder nobody uses it in the SEC. All you have to do is swarm to the ball and you stop it. It’s not hard. That high school offense is a one hit wonder, PJ’s never increased his production from year one to year two, because everyone always figures it out.

Jeff

July 14th, 2009
3:16 pm

Otto…Good post and couldn’t agree more with the envy of GT fans.

Tom…If I am not that bright lets see your list.

Mark Bradley

July 14th, 2009
3:16 pm

I’m actually a fan of Tressel’s. Seeing the “Script Ohio” must have gotten to me.

DawginLex

July 14th, 2009
3:16 pm

Hey Mark,

Somethin’ is a brewin’ up here in LEX regarding a fight on Saturday night involving UK and UT football players. Fulmer Cup bragging rights might be at stake.

Stay tuned.

Kendawg

July 14th, 2009
3:17 pm

Why the high regard for Beamer? He’s always coached in a weak conference, and he’ll never win a national title. He doesn’t compare favorably to Richt, in my biased opinion.

Otto

July 14th, 2009
3:19 pm

Gravy Train, The NCAA was looking at the violations before Saban was ever hired. What trouble did LSU get into? I understand if you do not like because of how he handled job changes but probation is a bit over the top.

I think any fan that puts hope into a player from another team leaving is just sad. Did SOS let up after Weurfel? Urban can keep winning with his next group of players.

macrotech

July 14th, 2009
3:22 pm

Jeff, you question CPJ’s entry in the top ten list of coaches because, in your words, “They beat us (UGA) 1 time in eight years”…. you would be correct IF this was the ONLY reason he was there. However, he’s amassed an AMAZING winning percentage over his career and THAT is why he’s on this list. Typical mutt fan thinking that the world revolves around you…it doesn’t…it just keeps passing you by. The funniest part of your protest is in your next statement regarding Les Miles being ahead of cmr, “see our last two results against them…even last year when we were awful on D”….You can get in the top ten with two wins, but not with one…not a big difference my friend. Think your argument might be a little biased?

Allen

July 14th, 2009
3:23 pm

No, St. Richt is a bastion of class. Look at the all-star lineup from last summer. Those kids were absolute angels. Mark Richt’s motivational skills are the tops in the nation.

Mark Bradley

July 14th, 2009
3:24 pm

Really? A fight in Lexington? I’ll have to ask around.

Meat Rabbit

July 14th, 2009
3:26 pm

Noticably absent was that Cincy coach, huh?? For my money, and this is just strictly opinion because I’m at work and obviously don’t have the time to dig up stats to backup my theory, but if you were to hand the keys of a major program over to Houston Nutt, I think that he would break anyone’s top 10 list. He is a big game coach! Just needs the opportunity.

MattDawg

July 14th, 2009
3:26 pm

JB the last time Florida played Michigan… they lost. And that was with Tebow, Meyer, and Percy. GO GATOR!!

The Grinch

July 14th, 2009
3:27 pm

To Allen

Spray on tans don’t stick to lard. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Bank Walker, Texas Ranger

July 14th, 2009
3:29 pm

How about a 40 year old, that’s a man. That guy can coach a little. Plays with the 2 biggies in the Big 12 with less talent. And hou bout the Mad Scientist. Id take both them over any coach in the Big 10 including Tressel and Joe Pa. Heck, to be in the top 10 you should be breathing.