OK, here’s MY list of the top 10 coaches (includes Richt!)
This morning’s post regarding Matt Hayes‘ ranking of the top college football coaches in Sporting News set me to thinking. (That’s never a good thing, but sometimes it happens.) “You, M. Bradley,” I said to myself, “need to do a list of your own.” And, possibly for the better but more probably for the worse, I have. Herewith, the inaugural edition of dumb ol’ MB’s Top 10 Coaches:
10. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma: Used to win all his big games; now loses all his big games. I wonder how he’d do in the SEC East. (Not well, I don’t think.)
9. Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech: Does what he does and does it wherever he goes. He and Jim Grobe of Wake Forest are the best pure coaches in the land.
8. Mark Richt, Georgia: I used to think a national championship was inevitable, and maybe it still is. But I can’t say Richt had his finest hour in 2008.
7. Les Miles, LSU: What can I say? The guy has grown on me. And I liked the action he took to fix his defense. (Feel free to make obvious Georgia comparison.)
6. Pete Carroll, Southern Cal: I know, I know. This seems a little low. But he loses way too many games he shouldn’t. He’s the antithesis of Vincent J. Dooley.
5. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech: How many games can you win with defense and blocked kicks? At last count, 176. (Plus two ties.)
4. Nick Saban, Alabama: I’m not sure he’s quite as great as his malignant aura would suggest — there’s only one Evil Genius, after all — but he’s really good.
3. Jim Tressel, Ohio State: Yeah, I know Ohio State looked awful against Florida and LSU. But the Buckeyes are about to win another BCS title soon enough.
2. Mack Brown, Texas: He has the rep of being just a recruiter, but does he recruit any better than Carroll? And who won when those two guys’ best teams met?
1. Urban Meyer, Florida: I don’t much care for him, either, but you can’t argue with the results. He has two national titles in less time than it took Steve Spurrier to win one.
Before I leave, let me anticipate a few questions. Who’s No. 11? The aforementioned Jim Grobe. Where’s Spurrier himself? Well, he’s coaching South Carolina, which renders him irrelevant in the grand scheme. And where’s Chris Petersen? Last I checked, he’s in Boise.
Update: Because I felt bad about making a list and leaving Grobe off it, I tacked on another five names. Here are my choices for Nos. 11-15.
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Sting 'em Buzz
July 14th, 2009
2:22 pm
Cool that the local schools are both represented well.
Robert Fitzhugh Lee
July 14th, 2009
2:32 pm
Hilarious how much envy comes out of the Dawg Nation studying that picture of Paul.
Erk’s protege – The same Erk who turned down Georgia’s offer to coach Athens in ‘84 – is building something special here in Dixie.
He’s producing national prominence through brainwashing toughness in the program. Georgia’s greatest weakness is Tech’s greatest strength.
And Paul’s celebrating it with a good ole’ stoge.
409 Yards 5 Touchdowns
Carry on,
Robert F. Lee
Art Vandelay
July 14th, 2009
2:33 pm
I’d put Kyle Whittingham of Utah at #11. He doesn’t have a huge body of work to analyze yet, but he looks like he was paying attention when he worked under Meyer. An undefeated season and nationally televised pantsing of Bama is strong evidence that this guy knows what he’s doing.
Jeff
July 14th, 2009
2:34 pm
Not sure why Paul Johnson makes this list. They beat us (UGA) 1 time in eight years, and all of a sudden Paul Johnson is the next Bobby Dodd. Give me a break. I totally agree with your list with two exceptions, Les Miles is NOT a better coach than Mark Richt(see our last two results against them…even last year when we were awful on D), and Paul Johnson shouldn’t even make it into the Top 20 list. Here is my list (in case you were curious, which I am sure you’re not):
1. Urban Meyer( I just threw up a little in my mouth)
2. Nick Saban (I really threw up in my mouth)
3. Jim Tressel
4. Bob Stoops
5. Pete Carroll
6. Mack Brown
7. Mark Richt
8. Frank Beamer
9. Les Miles
10. Joe Paterno (still winning lots of games in his 80s)
jimmy
July 14th, 2009
2:34 pm
fix your defense coach richt and move up the list
Otto
July 14th, 2009
2:35 pm
CMR needs to fix the stale play calling on offnese. The defense had reason to give up some points and wasn’t a problem in ‘07 but the offense was.
IMO Mack Brown is vastly overrated. He has his one national title thanks to Vince Young I doubt he sees another.
I would replace Beamer with Leach.
Tressel has done well against a falling Michigan and Coker at Miami. What is his record against the SEC or USC?
I think Petrino may move up on to the list.
If CMR did leave I would take Stoops in a second.
JB
July 14th, 2009
2:35 pm
Mark…..Ask yourself this….if you’re Meyer or Saban last year and you lost 25 or so players to injury, including just about the entire OL, Geno and Marcus Washington on D, Would THEY have done better than 10-3……??????? I think Mark did a pretty good job last year. That Team “SEEMED” to have not had any heart or Chemistry…I know it’s blah blah blah from our haters, but these are facts. I’m disappointed, but proud also !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Robert Fitzhugh Lee
July 14th, 2009
2:37 pm
Paul Johnson racked up 409 yards and five touchdowns in Athens in his first damn year.
You think SI’s 3-9 prediction carried any wisdom with it? Well 409 yards 5 touchdowns is your answer.
Even though obscenely outmanned with talent according to Rivals and Scout, Tech will continue to outsprint, outmatch & most importantly out tough UGA. Quoting Schlabach, “Georgia Tech is tougher than Georgia.”
Paul instills toughness, Richt gives three game suspensions.
Carry on,
Robert F. Lee
JB
July 14th, 2009
2:38 pm
Pasting and sending that to Athens as we speak…..Keep’em coming Lee.
gatordc09
July 14th, 2009
2:39 pm
Mark – It seems like UGA is obssessed about beating FL and, in some ways, rightfully so. However, the obsession is going over the top.
Wasn’t Richt hired from FSU to beat FL? (2 out of 8 years..no, it has not paid off)
Art Vandelay
July 14th, 2009
2:40 pm
Jeff, Paul Johnson makes the list because his coaching career didn’t begin last year at Tech. He went 62–10 at Georgia Southern with two national championships, and had a 45-29 mark at Navy, which was a doormat before he showed up. And Les Miles has a national championship and a 4-0 mark in bowl games since he arrived at LSU. What has Richt done that compares? He’s a fine coach, but Johnson and Miles have more accomplishments to hang their hats on.
JB
July 14th, 2009
2:41 pm
Lot of folks other than Richt losing to Gators……..SI’s and CBS’s beloved ohio st., Mich. and S. Cal would likely have some lumps from Florida !
Tom
July 14th, 2009
2:42 pm
If you need bulletin board material, JB, you’re in more trouble than even I thought.
DawginLex
July 14th, 2009
2:43 pm
Carroll
Meyer
Brown
Stoops
Tressel
Richt
Saban
Miles
Paterno
Beamer
Whittingham
28.) Spurrier-oh how the mighty have fallen
Allen
July 14th, 2009
2:43 pm
Mark Richt should be Number 1 on that list. Georgia was the 2008 preseason champions. That alone shows how aweomse CMR truly is. What can Paul Johnson claim? Mark Richt is the man with the plan. How many awesome gimmicks like Black Out Day has Paul Johnson come up with? The triple option? That high school offense will never beat a real team. Paul Johnson doesn’t even have a spray on tan like CMR!
Carter S
July 14th, 2009
2:44 pm
Mark, the Dawg fans who are reading this (and those that can, are) are not going to be happy.
Bob
July 14th, 2009
2:44 pm
Lord help us. At least Stoops gets to Big Games. Mack Brown has won a single Big 12 title this decade. One. Ein. Une. Uno. And he is #2 and Pete Carroll is way down at where he is? Makes zero sense. In that same period, Carroll has won 7 PAC 10 titles, Saban 2 SEC titles, Richt 2 SEC titles, Stoops 6 Big 12 titles. Mack Brown is a great recruiter and a very, very good football coach. He is not remotely close to being #2.
wxwax
July 14th, 2009
2:45 pm
I don’t know what “best pure coach” means. That he can’t recruit?
Mark Bradley
July 14th, 2009
2:47 pm
They’ll get over it, Carter.
RxDawg
July 14th, 2009
2:47 pm
Good post Jeff. And I pretty much agree 90% with your list. I’d move Tressel down…way down.
I was actualy at the GSU when PJ beat Youngstown St and Jim Tressel in 98ish (maybe 99).
Mark Bradley
July 14th, 2009
2:47 pm
Best pure coach means you could plunk those coaches down in high school or Pop Warner and they’ll still be winning because they can teach the game.
ByteMe
July 14th, 2009
2:49 pm
You forgot the East Carolina coach who often has his guys playing way over their heads.
Jeff
July 14th, 2009
2:51 pm
Art…What was Miles’ record when they won the NC in 07? Same as UGAs. They backed into that just as UGA could have easily done that year. Richt has won 2 SEC titles and amassed an 82-22 overall record in 8 years in the SEC (not with Navy’s weak schedule). He has shared or won the toughest division in college football 4 of those 8 years (02,03,05,07), and he is 6-2 in bowl games. He has played in 3 BCS games winning twice.
Mark put Paul Johnson ahead of Bob Stoops. Are you telling me that GT would hire Paul Johnson before they would hire Bob Stoops. Give me a break. 1 win does not make a career. I agree that it is a big deal for GT to beat UGA at home. However, he doesn’t YET deserve to be mentioned with the rest of the coaches on this list. Navy and Georgia Southern are not the same caliber as SEC and ACC football, which Richt has been coaching his entire career.
RAMBLE ON!!!
July 14th, 2009
2:55 pm
Mark, WTF???
CPJ walked into Sanford and Son Stadium with an OL that had a couple of walk-ons and destroyed the fleabag nation with a bunch of Freshmen and Sophomores and you have him behind St. Richt who had the NFL number 1 and 15 pick. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!?!
Please, you know better. You don’t have to appease the Mutt Nation just because they are a bunch of crybabies and sore losers.
Revise this, you know better. They are going to cry no matter what you say.
Reid Adair
July 14th, 2009
2:56 pm
Solid list, Mark. I’m not sure I would have Jim Tressel at No. 3, but very well done. Paul Johnson is a much better coach than a lot of people give him credit for, and Bob Stoops peaked a few years ago.
Jeff
July 14th, 2009
2:56 pm
Rx…Sorry, I was born in OH and went to UGA. I still have a soft spot for the Big 10, and I am amazed at how Tressel has locked up that region of the country in recruiting. You’re probably right. I could move him down to 9. PJ still has some football to coach before I would put him anywhere near this list. I am not trying to bash or diminish his accomplishments.
Tom
July 14th, 2009
2:58 pm
Methinks EZ musta’ had ol’ Jeff in mind…..
“Georgia fans are passionate, but let’s face it – they’re not the brightest fans. Passionate, but not bright.” – Eric Zeier, Novemeber 21, 2001
Jeff
July 14th, 2009
3:02 pm
Reid…Bob Stoops has won 102 games in 9 years. Bob Stoops has won the Big 12 6 times since 2000. He has played for the NC 3 times. He has won the LAST 3 Big 12 titles. He played for the NC last year, and had the Heisman winner(who chose to come back and play another year instead of being the 1st pick in the NFL draft) last year. When exactly did he peak? Do you think PJ is capable of this?
Jeff
July 14th, 2009
3:06 pm
Reid…102 wins in 9 years. 6 Big 12 championships in 9 years(including the LAST 3 in a row). Played in 3 NC games including last years. If he peaked a few years ago, what is going on now? Also, turned out 2 Heisman winners. One of which chose to come back to school instead of being the top pick in the draft last year.
Otto
July 14th, 2009
3:09 pm
Quote: Hilarious how much envy comes out of the Dawg Nation studying that picture of Paul.
Funny the first 2 replies are from Tech fans. Talk about a man crush on a coach and envy of another school……
Michael
July 14th, 2009
3:09 pm
I know you’re playing to your readers, but I think neither Johnson nor Richt belong on the list. Not until Johnson wins something of consequence (beating Georgia once isn’t enough), and not until Richt manages to consistently get the best out of his team’s considerable talent (he did in 2002, 2005 and 2007, not so much in 2003, 2004 and 2008).
Gravy Train
July 14th, 2009
3:10 pm
Mark,
Why not factor in the character of the coach as well? I don’t think USC Pete is anywhere close to having the integrity of Richt. I don’t think Paul Johnson has done anything that Jim Donnan hasn’t, save coach in the SEC. Urban is what he is, an ego driven fraud as a sandbag recruiter who gets the most out of roster competition. I think they will miss Percy more than they think. Saban is just plain dirty…probation follows him like an Itallian named basketball coach. The sweater vested Dooley wanna be in Columbus is nothing more than media hype. He has Herbie spoon him every week on national television. Given that rationale Richt is clearly the top choice. There is no coach I would rather have my son play for, and to me that’s the bottom line.
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Mrs. Chanandler Bong
July 14th, 2009
3:12 pm
I’d move Jim Tressel down, although I do love his sweater vests. And move Joe-Pa up. Simply because he’s Joe-Pa. And I love his glasses.
OSU SUCKS
July 14th, 2009
3:12 pm
Ohio state is the most overrated team in history year in and year out. They cant compete in the south. They couldnt even be the top team last year in the sinking Big 10.
Otto
July 14th, 2009
3:13 pm
Reid, Stoops’ OU team held UF to fewer points than anyone in the SEC and they only lost by 10 UF’s narrowest margin of victory. Yes Stoops coached blew a few BCS bowls. But Stoops is still winning and another BCS title would not surprise me.
OSU SUCKS
July 14th, 2009
3:14 pm
UGA and yes, Georgia Tech, would roll on OSU.
dawg mc woofterson
July 14th, 2009
3:15 pm
The triple option will never work in college football. It’s not like it’s ever worked in the past. Plus, it’s totally unwatchable – 3 yards and a cloud of dust doesn’t sell tickets, especially in a recession like this. You can’t win more than 6 games a year without a pro style passer, and you can never come from behind calling all run plays, so if you ever did get behind by more than 2 tds at the half the game is basically over. And also, seriously, the option will never work against SEC speed, it’s no wonder nobody uses it in the SEC. All you have to do is swarm to the ball and you stop it. It’s not hard. That high school offense is a one hit wonder, PJ’s never increased his production from year one to year two, because everyone always figures it out.
Jeff
July 14th, 2009
3:16 pm
Otto…Good post and couldn’t agree more with the envy of GT fans.
Tom…If I am not that bright lets see your list.
Mark Bradley
July 14th, 2009
3:16 pm
I’m actually a fan of Tressel’s. Seeing the “Script Ohio” must have gotten to me.
DawginLex
July 14th, 2009
3:16 pm
Hey Mark,
Somethin’ is a brewin’ up here in LEX regarding a fight on Saturday night involving UK and UT football players. Fulmer Cup bragging rights might be at stake.
Stay tuned.
Kendawg
July 14th, 2009
3:17 pm
Why the high regard for Beamer? He’s always coached in a weak conference, and he’ll never win a national title. He doesn’t compare favorably to Richt, in my biased opinion.
Otto
July 14th, 2009
3:19 pm
Gravy Train, The NCAA was looking at the violations before Saban was ever hired. What trouble did LSU get into? I understand if you do not like because of how he handled job changes but probation is a bit over the top.
I think any fan that puts hope into a player from another team leaving is just sad. Did SOS let up after Weurfel? Urban can keep winning with his next group of players.
macrotech
July 14th, 2009
3:22 pm
Jeff, you question CPJ’s entry in the top ten list of coaches because, in your words, “They beat us (UGA) 1 time in eight years”…. you would be correct IF this was the ONLY reason he was there. However, he’s amassed an AMAZING winning percentage over his career and THAT is why he’s on this list. Typical mutt fan thinking that the world revolves around you…it doesn’t…it just keeps passing you by. The funniest part of your protest is in your next statement regarding Les Miles being ahead of cmr, “see our last two results against them…even last year when we were awful on D”….You can get in the top ten with two wins, but not with one…not a big difference my friend. Think your argument might be a little biased?
Allen
July 14th, 2009
3:23 pm
No, St. Richt is a bastion of class. Look at the all-star lineup from last summer. Those kids were absolute angels. Mark Richt’s motivational skills are the tops in the nation.
Mark Bradley
July 14th, 2009
3:24 pm
Really? A fight in Lexington? I’ll have to ask around.
Meat Rabbit
July 14th, 2009
3:26 pm
Noticably absent was that Cincy coach, huh?? For my money, and this is just strictly opinion because I’m at work and obviously don’t have the time to dig up stats to backup my theory, but if you were to hand the keys of a major program over to Houston Nutt, I think that he would break anyone’s top 10 list. He is a big game coach! Just needs the opportunity.
MattDawg
July 14th, 2009
3:26 pm
JB the last time Florida played Michigan… they lost. And that was with Tebow, Meyer, and Percy. GO GATOR!!
The Grinch
July 14th, 2009
3:27 pm
To Allen
Spray on tans don’t stick to lard. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
July 14th, 2009
3:29 pm
How about a 40 year old, that’s a man. That guy can coach a little. Plays with the 2 biggies in the Big 12 with less talent. And hou bout the Mad Scientist. Id take both them over any coach in the Big 10 including Tressel and Joe Pa. Heck, to be in the top 10 you should be breathing.
The Grinch
July 14th, 2009
3:30 pm
To RAMBLE ON
Since calling you out on your Roddy Jone man crush you haven’t mentioned him in your posts. So who have your affections turned to? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Mark Bradley
July 14th, 2009
3:30 pm
Houston Nutt is a fine big-game coach. It’s the little ones that get him.
Oh, and the Kentucky-Tennessee alleged brouhaha is all over the Internet. I assume the winner got to keep the beer barrel for another year.
Mark Bradley
July 14th, 2009
3:32 pm
Georgia will see the 40-year-old man who coaches OSU in about seven weeks, Bank Walker.
Volman
July 14th, 2009
3:32 pm
Mr. Bradley: Philip Fulmer version 2 (Mark Richt) ahead of Paul Johnson? Give me a break.
Richt is on the decline. Big time.
Big Dawg
July 14th, 2009
3:37 pm
Dang!….Is Coach Paul Johnson puffing on a Reuben Houston fatty blunt?
Paddy
July 14th, 2009
3:37 pm
dawg mc.. you don’t watch much football do you? Me, a dog fan must give props to CPJ. He is a great coach. 3 yards and a cloud of dust?? Guess you never saw Ga Southers, Navy and most recent Ga Tech play. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Hate to say this but it is fun to watch, just not last year in Athens. If you were a college coach with that mind set, CPJ would run up 75 on you and 500 yrds rushing before you knew what hit you. My Dawg friends, take this guy seriously he can coach his players and win games.
Really?
July 14th, 2009
3:38 pm
My dad can beat up your dad.
J
July 14th, 2009
3:39 pm
PJ is a heck of a coach for sure… But his team beat Gardner-Webb by 3. That is hardly top-10 material. I love what he did at GSU (my brother played for him), but lets see what he does at GT for a few years before we anoint him the savior.
And before it is argued, let me say that Richt has proven it year after year. He still went 10-3 last year, losing to the eventual national champs, a solid Bama team, and yes, a solid Tech team.
Archie
July 14th, 2009
3:39 pm
The one thing these coaches have in common, well aside from Paul Johnson, is that they’re all coaches of the elite football programs that darn near run themselves. I know they didn’t get where they are for no reason, and I know that not just anybody can run these programs because they’ve all seen some hard times, so I don’t mean to discredit them. However, there are a lot of great coaches at the midlevel programs that give these coaches a run for their money. Not all of these guys should be in the top 10, but you could make a compelling argument for each of them. Jim Grobe (Mark Bradley already mentioned him), Mike Riley at Oregon State, Mark Mangino at Kansas, Mike Leach at Texas Tech, Gary Pinkel at Missouri, Jim Leavitt at South Florida, Gary Patterson at TCU. and Kyle Whittingham at Utah. For the most part, the 10 teams listed in Bradley’s list are generally the top 10 teams in America on any given week, that doesn’t necessarily mean their coaches are the 10 best in America. I think a few of these guys I listed should be on there somewhere.
Jeff
July 14th, 2009
3:41 pm
Macro…PJs D1 record of 54-33 is a winning percentage of .620. Here is the winning percentage of my list:
1. Urban Meyer- 83-17- .830 – 2 NC
2. Nick Saban- 105-50-1 – .677 – 1 NC
3. Jim Tressel- 83-19- .814- 1 NC and played for 2 others
4. Bob Stoops- 109-24- .820- 1 NC and played for 2 others
5. Pete Carrol- 88-15- .854- 2 NC and played for 1 more
6. Mack Brown- 184-72- .719- 1 NC
7. Mark Richt- 82-22- .789 – 2 SEC titles and 4 division titles in 8 years
8. Frank Beamer- 176-89 -.660- Played for 1 NC
9. Les Miles- 70-31- .693- 1 NC and 1 BCS bowl win
10. Joe Paterno- 383-127-3 – .750- 2 NC
Where does PJ’s amazing winning percentage of.620 fit into this list of men who have done it longer and against much stronger competition?
Richt is not on this list because of 2 wins. He is on this list because of 82 wins. PJ needs to prove it consistently against the big boys before he belongs on this list.
Mark Bradley
July 14th, 2009
3:42 pm
And that’s why, even after 45-42, Richt is ahead of Paul Johnson. Richt has done it consistently at the highest level since 2002. I don’t doubt that Johnson can do the same, but he hasn’t yet.
macrotech
July 14th, 2009
3:42 pm
dawg mc woofterson, it’s obvious that you didn’t watch any of the Tech games last year and turned the channel after the first half of the Tech vs Ga. game…. you’re, pretty much, wrong on every aspect of your post…. let me guess; dawg fan?
Scott
July 14th, 2009
3:42 pm
Yeah, Petersen’s in Boise…doing far more with far less.
Everybody knows that BSU didn’t “out-athlete” Bob Stoops’ OU team in the Fiesta Bowl, BSU out-coached Stoops…just sayin’.
BigMike
July 14th, 2009
3:42 pm
All-time winningest coach, who’s 82 and still coaching merits some place on this list, lets see how many of these guy’s become the next Phillip Fulmer, or Lloyd Carr. Big time coaches who couldn’t substain! Papa Joe, and Bobby Bowden they just keep on rolling.
Mark Bradley
July 14th, 2009
3:43 pm
I thought pretty hard about Jim Leavitt of USF, you should know.
Big Bee
July 14th, 2009
3:43 pm
DAWG MC WOOFERSON, cain’t come from behind? Where were you last Nov.? Must not have been in Athens, GA.
Mark Bradley
July 14th, 2009
3:45 pm
I’m sorry, but Bowden is no longer a Top 10 coach. A decade ago he’d have been No. 1, but nothing since 2000 suggests he’s running the same program at the same level.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
July 14th, 2009
3:46 pm
Looks like PJ’s win pct. would put him right behind Saban at #2.
Wasn’t that guy at Boise coaching the guy at Colorado’s players?
Crimedog
July 14th, 2009
3:48 pm
When a third of your starters have criminal arrests, you shouldn’t be considered a good coach.
PTC DAWG
July 14th, 2009
3:48 pm
I don’t see the Ohio State coach being worthy.
Scott
July 14th, 2009
3:48 pm
Not really, Bank. He was the OC at Boise for a number of years and very involved in recruiting before becoming the head coach. And many are saying (with Colorado’s non-success) that Petersen was the brains behind the BSU success anyway.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
July 14th, 2009
3:49 pm
With all these really good coaches at USF, Cincy, Bosie State, E. Carolina and Buffalo, how did UT and Auburn end up with what they have as coaches
Big Bee
July 14th, 2009
3:51 pm
KEN DAWG, CMR and Beamer compare very favorably. Win lots of games, hang around the top, never over the top. Check it out!!!
Volman
July 14th, 2009
3:54 pm
Mr. Bradley, you HONESTLY can say that with all of the talent that Richt has had at Georgia over the years that he has used that talent to 100% potential? All those top 10 recruiting classes? All those 4 and 5 stars? You talk consistency…He’s consistently under-achieving.
ILoveTicklePilesTechFan
July 14th, 2009
3:54 pm
You NATS fans kill me. When you can beat UGA 7 years in a row then come and talk some smack. We’ll see how good your team is this year. I expect a big beatdown in The Joke at the Coke this year. I didn’t see any of you idiots talking after that 51-7 beatdown we gave you. Add that to the other 6 games and I laugh at all of you D&D dorks with the hairy palms. Most of you losers have never seen a woman naked that wasn’t your mom!!!
Sting 'em Buzz
July 14th, 2009
3:54 pm
J, you are right that GT beat Gardner-Webb 10-7. That was with a third string drop back passer trying to run a triple option. They did manage to get the win.
Do you prefer to beat Tech when they are doormats (Chan Gailey versions, Lord knows I have heard the 51-7 comment over and over and over) or the one that puts up a fight (CPJ)?
Jeff
July 14th, 2009
3:56 pm
Bank…Saban is near the top because he turned 2 programs MSU and LSU completely around and he won the NC. Also, good point about Auburn. I still can’t believe they would force a guy like Tubbs out who won consistently to hire a guy like Chizik when there are so many quality coaches available. What a bunch of morons.
richtfan
July 14th, 2009
3:56 pm
you’ve got to be kidding. i can’t necessarily argue with meyer because arrogance and lying aren’t factored in, but beamer a top 5 coach? no way.
paul johnson isn’t even in the discussion in any way. this must not be a serious discussion.
Sting 'em Buzz
July 14th, 2009
3:57 pm
Jeff, he is also doing that with what is a lesser team as well.
King of Sandy Springs
July 14th, 2009
3:58 pm
Fine, I can see where PJ shouldn’t be on this list because of his so called lack of accomplishments. But if any of these coaches were at Navy, they maybe have only one or two bowl appearances and several losses to Army and Air Force in that same time PJ was there. And you know this is true. You just can’t recruit at the Academies, especially during an unpopular war period. He had one recruiting class “ranked” higher than 90. He beats you with his head. He doesn’t even use a play book or play sheet. Now he’s back in Georgia, sitting in one the most talented states, and he’s already beat that guy in Athens. I’m pretty sure he has pretty good reputation with the local high school coaches. I don’t know, I’m guessing he probably built one winning all those Real National Championships as both an OC and HC at Ga. Southern. Last year he had a team full of freshman and sophomores who really surprised the ACC and the rest of college football. 2009 and 2010 are looking great! THWG
Jeff
July 14th, 2009
3:58 pm
Sting…I love beating Tech at any time. I would prefer it to be a rivalry, but I don’t really care.
Volman
July 14th, 2009
3:59 pm
Hey ticklepiles: You can’t use “we” when referring to UGA because “YOU” did not go there. Graduating from Valdosta or Georgia Southern and wearing a backwards UGA hat a having a UGA plate on the front of your car doesn’t make you a fan. That goes for the other 98% of the fanbase that does this also.
Jeff
July 14th, 2009
3:59 pm
Sting…He did it against lesser competition as well. So, what is the difference?
King of Sandy Springs
July 14th, 2009
4:02 pm
Fine, I can see where PJ shouldn’t be on this list because his so called lack of accomplishments. But if any of these coaches were at Navy, they maybe have only one or two bowl appearances and several losses to Army and Air Force in that same time PJ was there. And you know this is true. You just can’t recruit at the Academies, especially during an unpopular war period. He had one recruiting class “ranked” higher than 90. He beats you with his head. He doesn’t even use a play book or play sheet. Now he’s back in Georgia, sitting in one the most talented states, and he’s already beat that guy in Athens. I’m pretty sure he has pretty good reputation with the local high school coaches. I don’t know, I’m guessing he probably built one winning all those Real National Championships as both the OC and HC at Ga. Southern. Last year he had a team full of freshman and sophomores who really surprised the ACC and the rest of college football. 2009 and 2010 are looking great! THWG
*if this is a double post, oh well
willie
July 14th, 2009
4:04 pm
How could any of us know if Richt is a good coach? Any of us could coach that talent to 10 win seasons. At least Meyer did it at Utah, even thought I think he is a bit overrated, too. I am more impressed with the guys (and some were on your list) that can hang with the big boys with half the talent.
Volman
July 14th, 2009
4:05 pm
I love how the UGA “fans” play off the Tech/UGA rivalry like it’s “just another game they HAVE to play”. If it were just another name, then you wouldn’t see every UGA fan on here take shots at Tech any chance they get. I bet it must be miserable this year to have lost to Georgia Tech at EVERY SINGLE SPORT this year.
Miserable. But I guess it’s not a rivalry though..so it doesn’t matter.
Sting 'em Buzz
July 14th, 2009
4:05 pm
Point being he is coaching. Navy was a doormat and he drastically improved their program. Tech was UGA’s slobbering post under Chan but he at gives me hope that they can actually win a game against the top 10 team from Clarke County. I’m still getting used to the guy, but hell, I wasn’t begging for CPJ to be fired the day he was hired like I was with Chan.
Smashmouth
July 14th, 2009
4:05 pm
GT > Soon, all those big dreams are going to go up in smoke just like that cigar. I bet PJ wasn’t smoking that cigar after the LSU game… maybe Les sent that to him as a reminder of how LSU smoked GT? All that smack after a 9-4 season? GT = O V E R R A T E D (team,coach,fans).
BigTimeTECHFan
July 14th, 2009
4:07 pm
I’m not sure:
Meyer is no 1 – you have to count what he did a Utah. plus FL can do it all all the time, pass, run, defend, Spec teams, recruit….
Grobe WF No 2 – Dude has very small program competes with anybody. give him nod over Johnson even though I’m Tech fan, but if GA Tech does real well this year, ahead of Va Tech, that will change. Can’t judge Johnson at Tech and Southern, but years at Navy he was top ten for sure.
Richt / Tressel – Very good but would like to see what he could do at a Utah, Navy, Boise St type program, had it easy at GA, program was already major before they got there, would say Richt brought UGA back a from a lot futher down the Tressel.
others (top 10 types) –
Pinkel – Missu
Leavitt – So. FL
Tedford – Cal
Johnson – Vandy
Peterson – Boise
Along with all the other mentioned in MB rank.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
July 14th, 2009
4:08 pm
Jeff, not a Tech supporter but it looks like PJ turned two programs around (GT & Navy) in a lot worse shape than MSU and LSU. Just saying, he aint bad. So if you base it on winning pct., or turning a program around, he is right with Saban. If you base on NC, that leave out CMR while PJ had a couple at Southern.
Most Valuable Vick
July 14th, 2009
4:10 pm
Any coach that has a true legend like Mike Vick playing at QB for him would go straight to #1 on any coaches list. Believe That!
J
July 14th, 2009
4:11 pm
Sting, I’ve never been one to rub in those wins against GT. It would have been easy seeing as how the Dawgs won so many straight in the series. I am the rare Dawg fan that actually finds myself pulling for GT sometimes as long as they aren’t playing UGA (mainly b/c of my good friends who are big fans.) I think Paul Johnson is a fine, fine coach who has already came in a changed the mindset of his team, which was key number 1 for them. Like I said, he coached my brother at GSU and did a great job. He also turned around a terrible Navy team and made them more than respectable. All I was saying is that let’s see how he does year in and year out before we call him one of the Top-10 coaches in America.
And for what its worth, as an educated sports fan (I like to think at least), its hard to argue with Meyer at the top spot. The only qualm I have with MB’s list is that Kiffin HAS to be on there somewhere (JOKE)
b
July 14th, 2009
4:12 pm
Jeff, 45-29 at the NAVAL ACADEMY??? And you don’t think he’s a top 10 coach???
spider
July 14th, 2009
4:13 pm
there are a lot of great coaches out there, most of these arguments are totally useless, but hey RAMBLE ON, dont forget the AJC is a total UGA newspaper especially the sports dept
Lars Taint
July 14th, 2009
4:14 pm
Do people seriously think that Dawg McWooferson was being serious. Is the sarcasm in his post not obvious?
Anyway, I also think it is a little too soon to put CPJ on this list he may have the potential, but you can’t put him there until he at least wins an ACC conference title.
ILoveTicklePilesTechFan
July 14th, 2009
4:15 pm
Sorry Volman but I did graduate from UGA and unfortunately I have to see you and your toothless hillbillies up here in Tennessee every day because of my high paying job that relocated me from Georgia. I like living here except when I see you coming to pickup the trash off the curb in front of my house because you smell like a pile of steamy cow dung. Stop sleeping with your cousin so that the inbreeding will stop in your family and embarrassing yourself on this blog.
Jeff
July 14th, 2009
4:15 pm
Volman…I wasn’t saying that it is not a rivalry. I was saying that I like seeing Tech win 8 or 9 games every year because it makes our game even bigger than what it already is, which is huge. Also, it does hurt to lose to Tech in all major sports this year.
Sting…I agree that he turned Navy around, but Navy doesn’t play the same competition as Tech or UGA. My point is that Navy may have had less talent, but they were also playing schools that had less talent as well.
PJ is a good coach, but to put him in the discussion right now as a top 10 coach in America is pre-mature IMO. As for our game this year, I can’t wait until November 28th.
jacketbacker
July 14th, 2009
4:15 pm
true volman….we are getting to the leghumpers!!…..they still can’t believe their preseason national champs lost to the little trade school on north ave!…..
45-42!!!!
THWG
Jeff
July 14th, 2009
4:18 pm
b…45-29 is not top 10 ANYWHERE.
The Facts
July 14th, 2009
4:23 pm
Robert F. Lee….You fail to meantion that although Tech racked up 407 yards on the ground aganist the Dawgs, Tech gave up 409 yards through the air and only won by three points because of an ill advised throw for a pick six and a fumble on a kick off return inside the twenty five yard line.You Tech fans can gloat all you want to…but CPJ is happy Tech was fortunate enough to get out of Athens with a win. He knows they were handed the game and has stated so privately to friends….but thats football. World beaters Tech is not. You need to prove yourself on a consistent basis and your fans need to put their money where their mouths are and sell out your home games. Then and only then will any one take the Tech program seriuosly.