Bradley’s Buzz: Overrated = DeAngelo, Brooking and Vick

No. 7 is No. 2 on ESPN’s list

It’s the most loaded word in the lexicon of sports, and it’s not “steroids.” It’s “overrated.” Use it and you’ll start an argument. Aaron Schatz of Football Outsiders, writing for ESPN.com’s Insiders Web site, starts 25 arguments in one fell swoop, listing the most overrated NFL players of the past decade. (Link requires registration.)

DeShaun Foster holds the unenviable No. 1 spot, and I wouldn’t object: I’ve never seen him as anything more than an average tailback. But DeShaun Foster isn’t why we’re here. We’re here to identify the three former Falcons who cracked Schatz’s top 11, presented here — with Schatz’s full commentary — in descending order:

2. Michael Vick: Even before Vick’s sordid off-field activities came to light, he was a disappointing No. 1 overall pick. Vick was a great runner, sure, but when he dropped back to pass, he turned into Tyler Thigpen or Derek Anderson, quarterbacks who are close to Vick’s career averages of 6.7 yards per pass attempt, 1.4 touchdowns for every interception and 52.8 completion percentage. His upside at this point is “Best Wildcat Quarterback,” not best NFL quarterback.

10. DeAngelo Hall: There is a difference between an athlete and a football player, and Hall is a prime example. He looks amazing, thanks to his athletic skills (primarily speed), so you don’t notice when guys catch 100 yards worth of hooks and slants on him. Washington gave him a huge contract based on half a season, apparently ignoring the miserable player he was for Oakland and the only slightly above-average player he was for Atlanta. (In his defense, our research has shown that there are only two players this decade whose success on turnover returns is more than just statistical noise: Hall and Ed Reed.)

11. Keith Brooking: A good outside linebacker whose skills don’t fit well as a 4-3 middle linebacker, but year after year he was forced back into the middle by injuries to other Falcons linebackers. His biggest problems came in pass coverage, one reason why the Falcons ranked among the worst defenses against opposing tight ends for the entire decade.

Which former Falcon was most overrated?

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My take: I always though D-Hall yielded as many big plays as he made, and his excesses — the three penalties on one Carolina drive in 2007 being the most egregious example — undercut his obvious talent. I never thought Brooking was as overblown as you bloggers insisted, but neither did I believe he was nearly as good a linebacker as Jessie Tuggle, either. As for the other guy:

I’ll have to disagree. On Dec. 23, 2004, Arthur Blank — who had just bestowed that $130 million contract on Vick — said: “Michael wins the way he wins.” And that winning, at least from 2002 through 2004, wasn’t really a function of his passing numbers. He terrified defenses in a way no other quarterback ever has. And if you say, “Well, he wasn’t really a quarterback,” I’ll disagree with that, too.

I say again: Vick was miscast as administrator of the West Coast Offense, but he still managed to keep his team vibrant until the end of the Mora/Knapp reign of error. And we’ll always wonder what Vick coulda/woulda done under Bobby Petrino, who was so enthused by his new student he told a Falcon bigwig he believed the team would average — average — 30 points a game.

Some of you, I realize, might see it differently. And while you’re mounting your rebuttal …

A couple of more nuggets regarding MV7

According to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Vick might not be playing in the NFL again anytime soon. Quoting unnamed sources, Cole reports that commissioner Roger Goodell is leaning toward extending Vick’s suspension through the 2009 season. Which could mean: Hello, UFL.

And it would be a shame if Vick couldn’t play in the NFL this season if for no other reason than USA Today’s Nate Davis just went to the trouble of breaking down all 32 league options.

(Oh, in case you missed it: Three Falcons also made Aaron Schatz’s rankings of the most underrated players of the past decade. Find out which three here.)

111 comments Add your comment

What!!!

June 30th, 2009
9:35 pm

Sorry for delay guys – my library card expired and my Mom’s electricity was shut off, but here I am.

Anyway, Matty Ice clearly choked in the playoffs last season, but even if he chokes again this season, at least we have a white quarterback.

Go Falcons!

Yeah yeah – I know I’m stupid.

What!!!

June 30th, 2009
9:43 pm

2011 NFL Lockout…………

All the NFL players will play in the UFL :)

Najeh Davenpoop

June 30th, 2009
10:16 pm

I find myself agreeing more and more with Mark Bradley when it comes to football, and I mostly agree here too. DeAngelo Hall was overrated mainly because he couldn’t play zone and he thought he was a million times better than he actually was, although I still think he’s a good man corner. Brooking is maybe slightly overrated when you look at his rep versus his production, but he still has had a solid if not spectacular career. Vick is only overrated if you look at stats — if you look at his impact on the game compared to the impact of other big time QBs on the game, as far as defensive preparation, etc. he was a top ten (maybe top five) QB at his best. John Elway had mediocre stats for most of his career too, and nobody disputes his place among the all time greats.

crabapplejoe

June 30th, 2009
10:36 pm

Well now, of the three candidates only one went to five Pro-Bowls and only one will be in the Falcon Ring of Honor…so I would say he was not overrated. As far as you folks who say he couldn’t cover….he had 12 career interceptions to the beloved Tuggle’s six….but I’ve never seen a post saying Tuggle couldn’t cover….makes you go hmmmmmmm. But you haters never let facts and statistics get in the way of your prejudice….maybe if KB56 would grow dreadlocks and always have a scowl on his face ya’ll might like him better…LOL

Bigeasy830

June 30th, 2009
10:37 pm

ESPN and the sports pages in the local paper use to be good at informing the viewers and readers about sports. Now, it’s all tabloid stuff. Who cares about your opinions. Just give the facts. comparing MV7 to Tyler Thigen is insane. He has a better QB rating than many Hall of Fame QBs and a very good winning percentage and lead his team deep into the play-offs. Plus the Georgia Dome was sold out every game he started and he was until he was arrested the most exciting player in the NFL, so to call him a disappointment is an opinion but facts seem to show other wise. But anyway we will see who will be the over hyped player of 2009 after the season. To call Matt Ryan the best franchise player under 30 over Big Ben, Joe Flacco, Eli Manning and Phillip Rivers and the weak armed chump is yet to win a play-off game is a bit of a stretch. So we will see how he will be viewed after the Falcons go 4-12.

The Falcons 2009, 4-12, Back to Life, Back to Reality.

Wacko Jacko

July 1st, 2009
10:12 am

Michael Vick Leaves Construction Job to Go “Work” with Young Boys???

Yes, the new Michael Jackson has arrived.

Michael Vick

July 1st, 2009
2:25 pm

“PEOPLE ALL OVER DA WORLD LOVE MIKE VICK.”

DrJ

July 1st, 2009
3:06 pm

Like Reality, I thought defenses had caught up with Vick, and he didn’t have a passing game, and the Falcons didn’t have a strong running game to overcome that problem. He is such a great runner, I wonder if he would come back as a receiver?

What!!!

July 1st, 2009
6:20 pm

If the Falcons don’t make it to the playoffs or win a playoff game, whose fault will it be?

OWNER

GM

COACH

QUARTERBACK

Who will take responsibility?

Will Matt Ryan ever be held responsible if after 2-full seasons as a starter with no playoff wins?

Will it be everybody else’s fault?

Would the leader be held accountable?

Who is the leader?

cake daddy

July 3rd, 2009
3:04 am

vick is the falcon alltime win qb and said he overrated all yall crazy

BROWNIE ON TOP

July 3rd, 2009
9:20 am

I am a MIKE VICK fan…and i feel he should be given a second chance to play,we have players that have taken a HUMAN LIFE,,and given 30 Days…WOW!!! but MV kill a dog or dogs u want to throw the book at him, and taken everything he worked for.PLZ PEOPLE GIVE ME A FREAKY BREAK..WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE,,