Comments on: And it’s a flying start to this pivotal Hawks’ offseason

By: Simpdawg

Simpdawg — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:41:33 +0000

I agree with HAWKMAN. The Hawks do not need to trade for Amare or Bosh, but they do have some tough decisions on Bibby, Flip, Marvin and Zaza. I would like to resign Zaza, Marvin and Bibby (if possible), and sign either Josh Heytvelt, Alade Aminu, John Bryant or Garret Siler.

By: Mark Bradley

Mark Bradley — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:40:59 +0000

I’d lean toward more smoke right now, HawkKingBibby. But I plan to go to Jamal Crawford’s media session Monday at 1 p.m., and I’ll snoop around there.

By: HawkKingBibby

HawkKingBibby — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:36:56 +0000

Mark man these AMARE FOR SMOOVE RUMORS FROM ESPN wont go away. Do you think this is all smoke or are we going to have a guy who wears goggles on our roster July 1st ( and I dont mean Bo Outlaw )……

By: HAWKMAN

HAWKMAN — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:32:35 +0000

WE DONT NEED TO TRADE FOR ANYBODY. ALL WE NEED TO DO IS SIGN ONE OF THE BIGS FROM THIS FA. POOL. R. WALLACE. D. GOODEN. D.ANDERSON. THESE ARE THE ONLY PLAYERS THAT WOULD HELP THE HAWKS. NO E. CURRY.AND PLAYERS LIKE T.CANDLER. M. CAMBY. C.KAMEN. ARE GOING TO COST US LONG TERMS DOUBLE DITGITS CONTRACKS. SIGN R.WALLACE,RESIGN M. WILLIAMS. AND NOW WE HAS BASE UNIT OF A. HORFORD. J. SMITH. R.WALLACE. J.JOHNSON. J.CRAWFORD. AND A BENCH OF M. WILLIAMS. AT THE 3.4.AND SOME 2.5. M.EVANS. 2.3. AND ROOKIE J. TEAGLE. 1.2.THIS UNIT WILL COST AROUND 60 MILLIONS, OR LESS NOT OVER.THATS AN 8 MAN ROTATION, OF ALMOST 6 TO 7 ALLSTARS CALEBURE PLAYERS. AFTER THAT SEE WHAT M.BIBBY AN ZAZA.AND F.MURRY. WOULD COST US. AROUND 10 TO 15 MILLIONS.LESS SEE 65 TO 75 MILLIONS FOR AN NBA CHAMPINSHIP WINNING TEAM. IS ABOUT RIGHT.

By: ntrigue

ntrigue — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:01:37 +0000

Don’t trade Josh for amare that would be crazy!!!! What are u guys smoking??? If anything you would trade Marvin and rights to childress for Stoudamire. Josh Smith should not even be considered for trading. He’s one of the elite gamechangers on defense. Mark what our your thoughts on this?

By: Wink

Wink — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:40:55 +0000

We are off to a flying start, but nothing pivotal has really happened yet:

Rick Sund:
1. Good Move = Obtain Jamal Crawford – swapped two bench players for 20 point scorer. Insurance if he can’t sign Bibby & Flip. Also, insurance if we can’t sign Joe next season (that’s why Crawford has to agreed to not Opt Out his contract at the end of this season)
2. Not Sure Move = Jeff Teague – Woody still the coach. He does not play rookie point guards. Will sap the confidence of this player (see what happened to Stodermire & AC Law)Teague lacks size and does not aid perimeter defense. Woody also will negate the speed he would bring to push the ball.
3. Bad Move = Has not resigned any of our free agents-waiting to play mind games as he did with Chillz last year.

Coaching:
1. Woodson on a one year leash – which insures Teague will not play, guaranteed if Bibby is not resigned.
2. Woodson does not have the ability to develop players – Josh Smith game is not advancing and Woodson has lost control…no reason he should be bringing the ball up the court or putting up untimely 3 point air balls.

Draft:
1. Nothing gained – Teague will be at the end of the bench & Gladys will be in Euro league. (He will join our other wasted draft picks (Cenk – SG, Andersen – Center & Josh Childress – SF/SG)

Money: Is there enough to go around?
1. Our free agents – Marvin, ZaZa, Flip, Bibby, Solo
2. Free Agent as mentioned here: Hedo, Varejo, Chillz, Jack, Sessions, Mikki Moore, Gotat…
3. Who will we let go & will we EVER spend money on a REAL center.

Rebounding & Hustle:
1. Horford and ………….Mario West………..????
2. Who is best available from list above to help????

Defense:
1. On ball = Marvin William (Restricted FA)…..who else?
2. Off ball = Josh Smith…usually last line of defense is a Center….who’s watching basket?????

Playoffs:
1. Who defends the opposing center – Horford not equipped to handle half court post play? (Shaq, Howard, Dalenbert,Perkins, O’Neal…center with height & weight)
2. Who defends the attacking point guards…this usually starts with perimeter defense…Mario is our best & Bibby, Flip or Joe can’t get it done….who?

Yes, pivotal decision have to be made to give us the right balance to succeed in the regular season, and more importantly, to succeed in the playoffs…ie the Cleveland acquisition of Shaq was made with an eye towards the playoffs, same with Orlando bringing in Vince Carter. The good teams make think ahead for a successful result…where is our history says we do the same thing hoping to get a different result – Insanity!!

Welcome to Atlanta, Joe, Bibby, Flip, or I mean Jamal Crawford….remember only one ball is allowed on the court at a time!

By: kd hawk

kd hawk — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:42:52 +0000

if anybody think that trading johson is the answer u are crazy. he may not be lebron, wade or kobe but he is the best thing the hawks have had in a long time. its only 2 players we CANT get rid of. Al and Joe. our only all star and our future all star. not unless somebody is gonna give up all star caliber players which i doubt. i been a hawks fan forever. i suffered thru all the garbage teams just like all he other true atl fans. we havent been decent in awhile. just make smart decisions. if we’re keeping the same team for the most part, please dont add anymore small forwards

By: Melvin Flowers

Melvin Flowers — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:08:55 +0000

We Need A Center, We Might Win 50 Games Or More.
Harford Is A 5 Man.
Hawks Mr Saund Please Bring In Some Needed Help.
We Need Not To See A Season Like The Braves for The Hawks.
Joe Johnson Is Some Times So As Mike Bibby. Keep Flip Trade Joe And Bibby Plus Zar Zar.

Melvin Flowers
Macon Georgia

By: Shamwow Man

Shamwow Man — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:11:08 +0000

If any of you guys think that Josh Smith can play SF you are out of your minds or you don’t watch real games!!!!!!! Josh SMith is a terrible man on man defender. He becomes more of a liability as a SF. He can’t shoot, he can’t dribble, he can’t play man on man D which are important skills to have as a SF. He needs to stay as close to the basket as possible. You actually want him on the perimeter taking jumpers. Getting one block a game doesn’t make you an all world defender.

By: Shamwow Man

Shamwow Man — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:59:43 +0000

Now with all of these trade MArvin posts I just have a few questions.

Is Marvin an offensive liability?
Is Marvin an defensive liability?
Is Marvin not a team player?
Has Marvin not improved his game every year?
Has Marvin gotten more shots every year?
How aggressive can a 4th option be?
Does Marvin not get to the line effectively?
Is Marvin not a 3pt threat?
Does Marvin turn the ball over alot?
IS this Marvin’s team or JJ’s team?