Arrested development? It’s the Gators’ turn this year

The talking point — actually the giggling point — of the college football summer is that Urban Meyer’s Florida Gators have been charged with a total of 24 felonies and misdemeanors in the four-plus years of his stewardship. (The Orlando Sentinel provides the handy linked rundown.) And now you’re expecting me to laugh and slap my thigh and advise the Urban Crier, with whom we’ve had some fun over the months, to save his alligator tears for the judge. But I won’t.

Because I have some sympathy for the man.

Last summer Mark Richt met the press on Georgia’s media day, and 16 of the first 20 questions concerned not football — the Bulldogs had been voted preseason No. 1 for the first time in school history — but lawlessness. Eight of Richt’s players had been arrested in 2008. “Embarrassing,” Richt called it. Also “sad.” Also “a distraction.”

When Richt’s massively gifted team finished 116th in penalties among 119 Bowl Subdivision teams, the leap was made — undisciplined off the field, undisciplined on it. (In November Richt would deny any correlation, saying it was “coincidental.”) And rival fans made hay of Georgia’s discomfort, laughing and calling Richt, a man of deep convictions, a bald-faced hypocrite.

But now Georgia backers get to chuckle over Florida’s misdeeds and the public airing thereof. And we in the media have done our usual tut-tutting. (Here’s a column from Andrea Adelson of the Sentinel. Although Dennis Dodd of CBSsports.com defended the Gators, sort of.) But the cold truth is that, just as last year’s Georgia is this year’s Florida, this year’s Florida could well be next year’s … anybody.

No school holds the patent on decency. No school is impervious to the choices made by 85 or so young men who are lionized on campus and around town in a way that would make rock stars blush. No school does it completely “right” because no group of 85 can bat 1.000 when it comes to individual behavior.

Yes, it looks awful when such arrests take the form of clusters, but that didn’t mean Richt aided and abetted criminal behavior last summer or that Meyer does so now. (Urban Meyer, as we know, is named after a Pope.) Sometimes a coach’s shape-up message needs to be toughened, but messages go only so far. And if you’re going to be ranked No. 1 in the land, you won’t get there by signing guys away from the seminary.

As Dodd writes, a coach can get pushed out when the embarrassment becomes too great. But Dodd also notes Oklahoma was coming off a pedestrian-by-its-standards 9-3 season when Barry Switzer was deemed more trouble than he was worth. Meyer just won his second BCS title in three seasons. His program could be hit by 24 more charges and he’d be OK so long as the L’s don’t number more than one.

We who follow college football suffer a disconnect. We want to cheer on Saturdays without much caring what happens the other six days of the week. We hire our coaches to win. If they happen to mold character in the process, so much the better, but that’s not why they make their millions. They’re paid to win on Saturdays.

When it’s someone else’s players getting in trouble, we take it as a sign of the enemy’s inherent immorality. But at the highest level of college football, there are no saints. (Even the haloed Tim Tebow was penalized for taunting in the BCS title game.) What happened at Georgia and what’s happening at Florida can happen anywhere. So don’t laugh too hard at Urban Meyer. Your coach could be next.

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Kenny Powers

June 19th, 2009
6:55 am

I’m first and you’re f******g out!

eastbound and down

June 19th, 2009
6:57 am

MB,
when the heck do you sleep? if we accept Richt’s explanation that there is no correalation between the behavior off the field and the number of penalties on the field, then maybe the fault lies with the coaches since they failed to maintain discipline on the field. no sympathy for Meyer by the way.

MiltonDawg

June 19th, 2009
7:19 am

it’s always going to be an issue..whether your #1 or not. college kids are going to drink and do stupid things..plain & simple. however, the degree & severity of the past incidents from gator players should be questioned..ak-47s, deceased credit card usage, getting tasered by the cops, etc.

Hugh Howard

June 19th, 2009
7:21 am

Am I missing something here. I thought you were on thecrawl all over GA bandwagon last year. Now that it’s FL you have to ease up? I do agree that 85 young guys are hard to control. It is a crap shoot and they are ultimately responsible for their behavior. It does seem the AJC delights in problems at GA, you included and sometimes in the lead. I guess there are schools such as FL and the Trade School that are untouchable

Gen Neyland

June 19th, 2009
7:41 am

Your blog speaks the truth. How can 85 out of 85 bat 1.000 in basic human decency and good behavior in any realm or demographic..? Look around the sports room and you’ll probably find 1 that has erred so far this football off-season (my vote goes to Schultz). Yet, you have awoke the Gator with the headliner. They may tell us that USF and FSU are pulling their weight in the Sundown State…

TampaGator

June 19th, 2009
7:48 am

You mention nowhere in this article that Meyer has dismissed all players who have been actually charged (not just arrested) with a major crime (Hornsby–who then signed with Mississippi and got arrested again–Rickerson (beat up his girlfriend), and Wilson, shot off an automatic rifle in public and then committed another offense after being allowed back on the team a year later as a walk on and then was dismissed from the team for good, and Newton, who stole another students computer and has since enrolled in a J.C. and plans to sign with another team later), and that most of the arrest charges against the Gator players mostly have been for minor offenses like underaged drinking or public fighting…and most have been dismissed by the courts as first offenses or not enough evidence. The same is the case at Georgia, which has dealt with even more arrests (30 to 26 over the same time period) than Florida. The player arrests at Georgia and Florida, by percentage of arrests of players compared to the number of players, is about the same as the number of arrests of regular college kids for under-aged drinking (who hasn’t or who didn’t in college), public fighting (happens in almost every public bar every night), and pot smoking (go to any college party and take a deep breath). I am not condoning bad behavior, but most of these kids are young and do what young kids do on college campuses across America. Few actually do terrible crimes and when they have, both Richt and Meyer have dealt justly with those players–suspended from the team. The problem with penalties on the field have nothing to do with the number of arrests. It has to do more with the fact that both Georgia and Florida play high intesity, aggressive football, especially on defense where most of the penalities occur. It is also a fact that both Richt and Meyer do run a tight ship and both have developed strong family-like environmnets that support and nurture the players (and most of the players respond in a postive mannner to it). But there will always be players, like sons and daughters in families, that do not respond to that support and nurture. And when they don’t, you then try to help them and give them second chance…then, if they don’t respond (i.e. Wilson at Florida), you get rid of them. In Hornsby, Rickerson and Newton’s cases, their offenses were too severe to give them a second chance. I bigger question I have is: Why would Houston Nutt give Hornsby a scholly at Mississippi after what he did? Could it be that Hornsby is such a good athlete (he was third string safety at Florida by the way) and Nutt puts ability before character. Nutt did not even kick Hornsby off the team when he was arrested on the Ole Miss campus again. I guess my point is, both Meyer and Richt are first class coaches who promote the right things to their players. But both coaches do not have 100% control over these “kids” and some will make mistakes. What I see, is both coaches dealing with the minor mistakes of their players like parents…and what I also see is recruits going to both places (Georgia and Florida) and loving the “family-like” environments that both coaches have established…and why both Florida and Georgia are doing so well each year in recruiting top players…because those players know, when they arrive on campus, they will be treated, especially when they screw up, like sons. That is the positive side of the story which newspapers never seem to write about.

Terrible Truth

June 19th, 2009
7:52 am

Better straighten up, Pope, Notre Dame won’t put up with that crap.

Hey TampaGator...

June 19th, 2009
8:03 am

…take a breath! Your points are well placed and valid.

But Mark only wrote wisely, and ended with this “What happened at Georgia and what’s happening at Florida can happen anywhere. So don’t laugh too hard at Urban Meyer. Your coach could be next.” But, in your haste to rebut that he was picking on UF, you missed that part.

Corrine Brown

June 19th, 2009
8:12 am

GRADULATIONS!!Corch Meyers

Dawg in VA

June 19th, 2009
8:19 am

Mark, your paragraph below says it all. That’s why I take no pleasure in the difficulties of Alabama, Florida or any other schools in the context of trying to run a big time athletic program. To loosely paraphrase the dearly departed Mr. Grizzard, “That dog will bite anyone!”

“No school holds the patent on decency. No school is impervious to the choices made by 85 or so young men who are lionized on campus and around town in a way that would make rock stars blush. No school does it completely “right” because no group of 85 can bat 1.000 when it comes to individual behavior.”

Barks Madley

June 19th, 2009
8:32 am

Won, too, tree, fo fi…..corch uban meyers dont take no jive. gooooo gaytuh. lol, never gets old.

jim

June 19th, 2009
8:35 am

great post, TampaGator

jim

June 19th, 2009
8:36 am

Enter your comments here

slimpickens

June 19th, 2009
8:39 am

Fire Mark Bradley!

m

June 19th, 2009
8:47 am

TampaGator

Next time just post the entire Atlanta phone book, it’s far more interesting

Montgomery Barker

June 19th, 2009
8:47 am

Donte’ Stallworth gets 30 days in jail for the death of a human being, Michael Vick gets almost two years in prison for killing animals, which McDonalds, Chik-fil-a and Oscar Mayer does every day. Our justice system is pitiful. Where is sissy P.I.T.A when a human life is killed?

Nachos

June 19th, 2009
8:50 am

……..And once again Florida will beat the ever loving crap out of UGAy, just like every other year. toodles mutts

JoeFann

June 19th, 2009
8:51 am

Well said, TG (and MB.) I have a 17yo and a 24yo, and sometimes hope to live long enough to see them become human (or at least have kids of their own.) I give both Richt and Meyer credit. How well would any of us handle knowing that our salaries and reputations were secured only by the actions of a hundred 18-23 year olds? All you can do is create a positive environment and seize teachable moments. Ultimately, the decisions are in the hands of the kids, and sooner or later, they’ll discover that they alone are accountable.

Go Dawgs!

Pago Flyer

June 19th, 2009
8:53 am

tampa gaytor…learn how to use paragraphs, not just one long sentence!
The gaytors can have 90% jail rate but they still have Tebow, the best ever college qb!

Saint Simons

June 19th, 2009
8:55 am

UGA has stoped drinking, now its bank fraud and bad checks!!!!

Cottonelle gator whipes

June 19th, 2009
8:57 am

OLE MISS flushed the goofy gators on their home field, OLE MISS RULES !

JIM AXEL

June 19th, 2009
9:02 am

WAS UTAH UNDEFEATED? Or did they lose to 4 loss Ole Miss like the over-rated gators?

DawginLex

June 19th, 2009
9:03 am

This kind of stuff happens everywhere. Among our SEC brethren, the more arrests generally means you are getting closer to the top of the league. It makes no sense to point fingers at others when the finger will evntually get pointed back at you.

The only school that denies wrongdoing is the holier than thou nerd herd. They brag about academics, strong men with character and beautiful women yet they somehow have produced a fair share of problems.

So to m, rambler, goldfool and engineer dude, give it a rest. You are no better than anyone else just because you wnet to GT and decided to become an engineer or an architect.

As I have told you, you folks design the buildings and the UGA CPA’s tell you how much you can’t spend and the UGA doctors put patients in the beds right after the UGA lawyers close the deal.

Reality Check

June 19th, 2009
9:03 am

Tampa Gator, well said. Anyone who has attended college athlete or not knows that potential for trouble on and off campus. Anyone who judges these kids or coaches for their behavior is crazy.

DawginLex

June 19th, 2009
9:05 am

I keep doing that wnet instead of went.

Green Tea

June 19th, 2009
9:11 am

Mark, what’s your email address?

Food for thought

June 19th, 2009
9:13 am

Since Meyer’s been at Florida, Miami’s had one player arrested. You can control the situation. It’s called discipline.

Green Tea

June 19th, 2009
9:15 am

Hey Saint Simons, how does one stope? Is “stoped” the past tense for that? Maybe you should learn to spell before you trash talk UGA you bum…

Tampa REBEL

June 19th, 2009
9:16 am

MISSISSIPPI beat the mythical national champs in big bad Gainesville.

Mark Bradley

June 19th, 2009
9:17 am

Tetley

June 19th, 2009
9:18 am

“tiny little tea leaf”

Food for thought

June 19th, 2009
9:20 am

Tampa Gator, if everything is OK in G’Ville, why do you need to write a book to defend them. Meyer may clean it up soon enough, but your team is trashy.

Otto

June 19th, 2009
9:23 am

Tampa Gator well said.

Didn’t Switzer also resign after alot of scandal and pending NCAA investigation?

Gainesville Sanitation Department

June 19th, 2009
9:23 am

The gators are trashy for sure,

DR

June 19th, 2009
9:25 am

Urban needs to start suspending his players when they get in off the field trouble. I think in the past he has just slapped his players on the wrist. Richt actually makes his players miss valuable playing time.

Gen Neyland

June 19th, 2009
9:26 am

Montgomery Barker : PITA is a bread or an acronym for an ache below the belt on the backside. PETA protects flies, rabid dogs and loves veggies. If you’re looking for human justice, see Vinny.

Gainesville Rebel

June 19th, 2009
9:26 am

Houston Nutt out-coached Meyer and the crimanal element gators!

Vinny Testaverte

June 19th, 2009
9:27 am

Live free or die.

Denver Dog

June 19th, 2009
9:27 am

When all of you realize that a group of 85 kids reflects a cross section of society it is easy to see how this happens at every school. The only reason you Hoppin’ Gators are defending anyone is becuase you have sat on your piousness and criticized everyone else, like UGA, FSU, Bama, UT, Ga Tech, when they have issues. It appears that the easiest defense would be to say sorry that happens, but it does. Overzealous kids, overzealous cops, it happens! Live with it, just quit throwing rocks, we are all in glass houses.

oldbird

June 19th, 2009
9:28 am

Tampagator, as a UGA alumnus, I rarely have anything good to say to a gator, but that was a great post. You are correct in that most of the arrests at both schools are for what is unfortunately, normal college kid behavior. I remember that one of the UGA arrests was for one of our running backs riding a moped with a suspended license. How can we sign such criminals?

Chuck

June 19th, 2009
9:28 am

Any college town that so actively makes arrests for possession of alcohol skews comparisons like this.

In Athens booze arrests are a major source of revenue. In places like Atlanta the police are forced to focus more energy on more serious problems.

Locality has everything to do with it, and the wide variance in municipalities and their approach to enforcement is the key factor. When something that is often treated with a warning or citation in one place is treated with an arrest and booking another, reliance on simple numbers becomes a pointless exercise.

Ga-Gator

June 19th, 2009
9:36 am

Tampa Gator….WELL said!

Dumblebees

June 19th, 2009
9:36 am

Saint Simons, could you please update us on the status of smartest Jihad engineer on the planet.

Gatorzone

June 19th, 2009
9:38 am

Whoop-te-Do! 24 in 4 years only averages 6 per year. That can’t be more than any other major program. Furthermore, he disciplines them when it happens.
If that makes our team trashy in other fans eyes, so what. UF is still the reighning national champ, so talk all you want!

SEC fan

June 19th, 2009
9:45 am

Mark, UF is agressively recruiting M. Ambles and is apparantly the leader for him. Although he is extremely talented; UGA, Auburn, and a few others didn’t offer him at all. USC has now backed off their offer. Now Under Armour has rescinded their invitation for him to play in the All American game. Think there is any correlation between the types of players a school recruits and the number of arrests they end up with?

[...] Mark Bradley of the AJC writes that Florida has replaced Georgia as the summer focus of off-the-field problems. [...]

TampaGator SISSY club

June 19th, 2009
9:51 am

As always, the gators are willing to play real tough competition, so this year they open up the season with NATIONAL POWERHOUSE….. CHARLESTON SOUTHERN !

OC THOMAS

June 19th, 2009
10:01 am

WTF???

June 19th, 2009
10:01 am

Bradley, you watching the Open?

gatorman770

June 19th, 2009
10:02 am

Cottonelle, Gainesville Rebel & Tampa Rebel – Just one question: Where can we view your recent SEC and BCS trophies?

Great post Tampa Gator

Gatorzone

June 19th, 2009
10:06 am

Charleston Southern was a last minute substitute when USF pulled out last year. Look it up

BruffDawg

June 19th, 2009
10:10 am

Anyone who has ever lived in these college towns like Athens and Gainsville know that these things are only the tip of the iceberg. Players get off all the time because they are part of the culture of winning, and winning brings in $. Like it or not this is what happens in these college towns with local grads giving sports stars free passes. The sad thing is when these athletes do something so wrong that they actually get into trouble. And also sportsfans, we may let our boys get drunk and vandalize some property (show me an athens alum who didnt) but at least they got enough sense to restrain from ASSAULTING THEIR ARRESTING OFFICERS. Classy program? Look at florida’s golden boy tebow geting a taunting penalty on the games grandest stage. You reap what you sow, trust me. I’m a dawg fan.

Georgia News - 6/19/09 | MrSEC.com

June 19th, 2009
10:14 am

[...] at Urban Meyer, Florida or their 24 arrests in the last four years.  That’s because he remembers how that shoe was on Georgia’s foot last year.“Last summer Mark Richt met the press on Georgia’s media day, and 16 of the [...]

WTF???

June 19th, 2009
10:14 am

If you gonna get locked up you might as well go one & whoop some police ass in the process I suppose.

Don’t tase me bro!

archangeladidas

June 19th, 2009
10:16 am

Florida GATORS 2008 National Champions! Florida GATORS 49 uga 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! Hey garbagedawgs……….timeout,timeout! Go GATORS!!!

archangeladidas

June 19th, 2009
10:17 am

Oh yeah by the way, please stop bragging about Ole Miss beating UF. uga didn’t do it! GATORS 49 garbagedawgs 10! 10! 10!

BigMike

June 19th, 2009
10:18 am

I’m a true Hater of the Gators, The reality of most athletes, is that they,ve never been told no to most things, people shower them with praise, due to there atheletic abilitties. “True Grown people must start acacepting some responsibilities that lead these kids in that direction.” I’m a former player myself, and I know for a fact the roads that get paved with platinum. Put any kid on that road and he/she will think there is know wrong they can do, but reality and money has never been a great mix when men/women are involved, Gators, Bulldogs, Volunteers , Tigers, it doesn’t matter, kids are going to do wrong. You(meaning the non-athlete) may say it’s nonsense, but how many of you “grown men who follow these kids from high school to where they go to school(praying that it’s your team to the pro’s). Police Officer’s stop trying to make a name for yourself, and sometimes a good stiff warning, or taking him straight to a coach would straighen the situation out.

Denver Dog

June 19th, 2009
10:22 am

give it up gator fans. It justt is what it is. don’t defend your schedule, your crime, your penalties. It doesn’t matter. It all happens and when people start realizing that then this kind of hot air will stop. They are all cross sections. FSU gets big trouble for Academic fraud, Tech does not. The results of NCAA might not be fair, but the actions of the schools are the same. It is just society and if any of you think that their teams are choir boys and girls, and not average young adults, which means late teens, then smoke some more wacky backy and enjoy your lava lamps.

WTF???

June 19th, 2009
10:22 am

archangeladidas – you need to be medicated, heavily.

SEC

June 19th, 2009
10:23 am

Tampa Gator….crib notes next time if you expect anyone to read your response.

Maddog

June 19th, 2009
10:29 am

People in glass houses…..

I’m not about to throw UF under the bus because it happens everywhere. I seem to remember most of the UGA offenses last year had to do with underage. There was a day when 18 was the legal drinking age. If that were still the case then most of UGA’s problems last year would have never happened.

WTF???

June 19th, 2009
10:30 am

BruffDawg – Kind of like that elderly lady the Atlanta P.D. shot & killed a couple of years ago?

If that’s protection, then I don’t want it.

Gator Growl

June 19th, 2009
10:34 am

Tampa Gator really put it all in perspective. And although I think Mr Bradleys article here is fair and speaks candidly, we do live in a society where the sensational sells and in this economy thats vital for these newspapers struggling to exist. In our market down here, the Orlando Sentinel has become notorious for this, sometimes to the point where I wonder if their parent company isn’t the National Enquirer. But let’s face it, 100% Senior class graduation rates and rising GPAs stories just don’t cut it in the circulation dept.

loyalgator

June 19th, 2009
10:35 am

Corrine good to hear from you, gradulations on the new wig

dbc

June 19th, 2009
10:36 am

Great post TampaGator. I totally agree. I’m also of the mindset that Richt’s endzone dance against the Gators backfired against him in more ways than one. I believe it did set the wrong tone for the following year, and I believe the refs felt he showed them up and decided to call everything and make him pay. I wish coaches would go back to teaching their players to act like they’ve been there before and just toss the ref the ball after they score (ala Tebow.) It seems sportsmanship between players (and fans as well) has gone out the window. There’s nothing wrong with tackling a guy as hard as you can and then helping him up. And as for all of us, there’s nothing wrong with being passionate about your team and having some fun with each other — but when the insults start to fly, enough is enough. I come on here to talk a little football, but lately, any subject ends up devolving into an immature rant by a few childish, insecure dopes. Sorry to preach…

Otto

June 19th, 2009
10:42 am

Bruffdawg you obviously have lived in your quiet middle to upper income surburban home for far to long. WTF?? points out one of many times where LEO have gone over the edge. My mother speaks of time when LEOs greated you with a smile and helped change flats, and gave warnings to people who acted with respect. Those days are long gone in many areas especially college towns and if you are under the agoe of 30.

BruffDawg

June 19th, 2009
10:48 am

Im actually quite poor and used to hate cops until my house got robbed and then i needed them. Now i donate what little i have left to police charities every year.

He Hate Gator

June 19th, 2009
10:54 am

Good comments TampaGator, would agree even if I don’t like them Gators…

BruffDawg

June 19th, 2009
10:55 am

Tebow also got an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for taunting in the NC game.

secondguesser

June 19th, 2009
10:56 am

Even though I am a die hard gator I’ve had the displeasure of being more familiar with the Athens and Uga police depts. Now I know thatcollege kids are going to be kids but as far as I’m concerned the dawgs are at one hell of a disadvantage. If there was ever a law force more inclined to make the revenue off of the college kids I haven’t seen it. To serve and protect? More like to select and service!

WTF???

June 19th, 2009
10:56 am

BruffDawg – Come live in Floyd County.

95% of the officers are 23 year old punks that walk around with their chest poked out begging for someone to get out of line so they can somehow justify acts of police brutality.

Don’t get me wrong, I know some damn good police officers but I also know some damn bad ones.

Otto

June 19th, 2009
10:57 am

You must live with a better police force as others have pointed out it varies by area. My friends truck was stolen. He received a call weeks that the truck was being impounded after the thieves had dropped it off somewhere. Turns out the county’s finest never even filed his report. I have respect my city’s PD and they have had a great attitude. However I can not say they about past places I have lived all in NW Metro Atlanta.

The Dawg

June 19th, 2009
10:58 am

Tampa Gator, a very good post regardless of how you wrote it. If you can read, you can understand it, so the English majors need to calm down.
Athens, Gainesville, Tuscaloosa, Tallahassee, Knoxville, etc. are all “small” college towns. The puritanical Tech folks live in a dream world because the Metro area has umpteen police departments, and the AJC does not have time to check all the arrest records every day to see how many Tech students were arrested. Therefore, they have to concentrate on the really big stuff like part of the student population that wants to overthrow the U.S. government and all Americans.
Please keep in mind the importance of understanding and reason. Think about it, and realize while one school is pointed out, another slinks away in anonymity, with skirts clean and head held high even though falsley so. After all, which is more important to write about, the drinking or speeding of a college student or the overthrow of a goverment?

BruffDawg

June 19th, 2009
11:06 am

Very mature. Lets talk more football.

WTF???

June 19th, 2009
11:08 am

The Dawg – “Therefore, they have to concentrate on the really big stuff like part of the student population that wants to overthrow the U.S. government and all Americans.”

Are you speaking of the Tech student body?

WTF???

June 19th, 2009
11:09 am

How is speaking my mind immature?

Sanford Drive

June 19th, 2009
11:11 am

$10 says archangeladidas is a actually a Tech fan

BruffDawg

June 19th, 2009
11:11 am

Anyone got predictions for the OKST game? I’m thinking 35-17 DAWGS!!!

WTF???

June 19th, 2009
11:15 am

At least 35-17. They can’t simulate what our defense is going to do to them.

I know, I know… Our defense was absolutley atrocious for the most part last year.

But I’ve got a feeling they’ll be much improved when they turn the Dawgs loose in Stillwater, OK….

BG

June 19th, 2009
11:19 am

I can’t wait to see what meyer does to his starting cornerback that got arrested and tased. I bet meyer will make him go to class for 3 days straight. HAHAHAHA

Tide Rising

June 19th, 2009
11:22 am

Tampa gator,

Well said. A lot of thought and perspective put into that one.

m, Only an idiot like yourself would deride Tampa gators fine post. Shouldn’t you be getting back to your game of dungeons and dragons?

TampaGator

June 19th, 2009
11:24 am

I didn’t realize my post was so long. Sorry. I just had something to say. Also, I didn’t realize I was supposed to follow English 101 when posting a blog. I will try to do better in the future. By the way, a ciminal is someone who has been “convicted” of a felony crime and has spent time in a jail or prison. I don’t that defines any of the Georgia or Florida players in the last 4 years, although some (Hornsby and Rickerson at Florida) should have gone to jail for their offenses. Instead, Hornsby goes to Ole Miss…and the Nutt pen.

Tide Rising

June 19th, 2009
11:25 am

Bruff dawg,

I would say a little closer. 31-24 dogs over Ok St.

TampaGator

June 19th, 2009
11:36 am

To all the “Nutt cases” out there, I believe the two best teams in American and the end of last year were Florida and Mississippi. Too bad Florida and Mississippi were not in a rematch in the NC game. Both were better than anyone in Texas or Oklahoma…and it would have been a lot better game to watch. I also believe the Gators would have inflicted their revenge in the game.

Mark Bradley

June 19th, 2009
11:46 am

To answer WTF’s question from a while ago: No, I’m not watching the Open. Just finished writing something about Paul Hewitt.

In fact, if you’re inclined to take a look … here ’s where you’ll find it. And I’d be obliged if you gave it a click.

TampaGator

June 19th, 2009
11:58 am

SEC fan…your information on Ambles is highly inaccurate. Too bad you feel the need to attack a kid’s character without justification. What has the kid done to you other than turn down an offer from the school you pull for?

Cuz

June 19th, 2009
12:04 pm

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Both Coach Meyer and Coach Richt are addressing the problems. I hate it when these kids use bad judgement that cost them their careers and education. I guarantee the coaches do also.

TampaGator fine post, but watch out for the blog grammar police. You may get a two game suspension.

TampaGator

June 19th, 2009
12:30 pm

I’d like to use this opportunity to open the closet door and walk right out. After consulting my religious advisor, Pope Meyer, we believe its time for me to trim off 4-6 inches in length from my jean shorts and tighten them up 4 inches in the waste. I will be moving very near Ansley Mall before the beginning of the season and forming a Gays for Gaytors fan club.

L-Dawg

June 19th, 2009
12:31 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF???

June 19th, 2009
12:38 pm

Damn…
That was bad, slightly funny, but bad.

I think they should open a chapter for Tech also.

Helluva Engineer, m or RAMBLEON!!!! Should be the area president.

Nachos

June 19th, 2009
12:49 pm

tim tebow set the georgia theatre on fire

Gatorzone

June 19th, 2009
12:53 pm

I just spent a week in Chattanooga and North Ga. All you Jort comments have zero room to talk. I saw more mouth breathing jean short wearing hicks in one week than I saw in a year in Tampa. And believe me, the tour guides at the various locations asked where people were from and the ones in reference were frum JawJa!!!

Cuz

June 19th, 2009
12:53 pm

No if Tebow was there he would have called down rain from heaven to quench the flames. Just like Superman, he can’t be everywhere at one time.

Gatorzone

June 19th, 2009
12:58 pm

Cuz, there would have been no need for Tebow to call down rain. He would have just waved a hand across and extinguised the flames on the spot!

Cuz

June 19th, 2009
12:58 pm

Zone here in the East we pronounce it Geor-ja. I think that is the only pronunciation we get right. Martinez is pronounced Mart-nez.

Think I will put on my jorts and cut the grass, otherwise would not be caught dead in them. Camo shorts are much cooler in my redneck world.

crack for lindsey

June 19th, 2009
1:00 pm

Jon Demps’ sandwich throwing didn’t keep UF from winning the MNC last year, so I doubt Jenkins’ dropped charges of presenting an easy target will affect the Gators much this season. By the way, have y’all received your 2008 Preseason National Championship rings yet?

I hope you’re looking forward to the Gator Bowl as much as we are. Maybe, after another crushing defeat as Florida rolls to another MNC, Mark Bradley will stop calling Coach Meyer Urban Crier, and change it to Urban Winner. He wins a lot more than he cries, but y’all already know that.

WE OWN YOU AND YOU KNOW IT!

POAD The CHOADE

June 19th, 2009
1:00 pm

I wish Tebow would do the world a favor and set Nachos on fire.

Leghound

June 19th, 2009
1:01 pm

I don’t follow football but most of these comments seem based on extensive knowledge.
Seems to me if this guys name is legally Urban anything he does can be excused
if somebody slaps his mama for that name.

Gatorzone

June 19th, 2009
1:22 pm

Touche.

I need to Get out of here, its Friday and daylight is burnin!
Till next week,
GO GATORS!!!!

Steve

June 19th, 2009
1:24 pm

Gotta love the leghumpers. Let’s see the Gators have two MNC within the last three years and Georgia has how many? How many SEC championships this decade? By the way, you thought you got a beat down last year, wait until October. You will be able to hear that leghumper yelping all the way back to Athens.

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