Bradley’s Buzz: Glavine tells WAGA he won’t pitch in 2009

Tom Glavine informed Buck Lanford of Fox 5 Atlanta on Thursday he won’t pitch in 2009. Via text message, Glavine wrote: “I’m not going to pitch or do anything in baseball until at least next year.” Glavine stopped short, according to Fox 5, of announcing his retirement, saying he plans to be “a full-time dad.”

It was, you’ll recall, only two weeks ago that Glavine ripped the Braves for releasing him and said he believed, contrary to Frank Wren’s bleak evaluation, he could still pitch in the major leagues. But if Glavine has resigned himself to not pitching this year after spending the winter and spring rehabbing from shoulder and elbow surgery, it would seem there were no opportunities. At least none to his liking, anyway.

Glavine will be 44 when the 2010 season begins. It’s hard to imagine he’ll be on a roster then or ever again, and he doesn’t need to be. His legacy is secure. He has won 305 games and is bound for the Hall of Fame, and he’ll be inducted wearing a Braves cap. And that’s how we should all choose to remember him.

And all that unseemly stuff with Wren and the manner of Glavine’s severance? Merely a footnote to a proud and professional career.

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brewdawg

June 18th, 2009
11:00 pm

If it does end like this, he still did get to retire a Brave. His last game pitched came as a Brave. His last win came as a Brave. I know it’s not how he envisioned things, but unlike Smoltz, his last time in uniform was as a Brave (barring one of those “one-day” contract things for Smoltz somewhere down the line).

Bryan G.

June 18th, 2009
11:03 pm

I hate to see it end this way if this is truly how his career will end. I was one of his biggest critics when he left to go to NYC, but Glavine was a great pitcher and a great team player (remember him getting ejected in 1991 for throwing 4 pitches at Dale Murphy???).

libby

June 18th, 2009
11:05 pm

He will NOT be missed!!!!!!!!!!! What goes around comes around!! It’s time to leave. GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark Bradley

June 18th, 2009
11:10 pm

I do, Bryan. In an afternoon game in Philadelphia. And they were the four slowest pitches in the history of baseball. No way Glavine was going to hurt Murphy.

Tom Glavine

June 18th, 2009
11:12 pm

truebravesfan

June 18th, 2009
11:15 pm

of course he will not be missed.. we have tommy hanson now!!!
I hate to see Glavine and the braves end like this. But I guess not every great career can end with a happy ending. Glavine should face the fact that he is too old, and his pitches arnt MLB pitches anymore. its sad but its true.

ant banks

June 18th, 2009
11:15 pm

the braves are and will be garbage until they get rid of bobby cox!! he sux!! (pun intended)

how else do you explain the braves havin’ 3 hall of famers (smoltz, glavine, and maddux) at the same time, 15 division titles and one effin’ title!! are you effin’ kiddin’ me?

this unacceptable record wouldn’t be tolerated in ny, boston, chicago!! how in the blazes did florida marlins win in ‘97 blow the team up and win again in ‘03 and blow the team up again. meanwhile bobby still the mgr.

Alisha

June 18th, 2009
11:16 pm

I hate that his career is probably ending on such a negative note. Cant wait to see him go to Cooperstown with that Braves cap on though.

truebravesfan

June 18th, 2009
11:17 pm

caint wait to see the braves retire maddox, smoltz and glavine’s jersey

count_schemula

June 18th, 2009
11:20 pm

Thanks Tom Glavine… After all this blows over, the team will be remembered for sort of botching it, and Tom will be remembered as just another athlete that got a little confused as to exactly which year to hang ‘em up. Neither of those two memories will compare to the rest of his great career. He was never my favorite Braves pitcher (Maddux) and he did not come close to having the nasty stuff (Smoltz) but he was every bit as tenacious as those two and we’ll never see a run like Glavine, Maddux and Smoltz again.

Jerry McManus

June 18th, 2009
11:22 pm

I totally agree with ant bank. I will be glad to see the day Bobby is gone. I am tired of his lazy teams. I am tired of seeing a pitcher stay in the game until it is hopeless. I am tired of players that don’t run to first base, tired of players that can’t bunt, can’t catch and are to dumb to run the bases. Bobbys teams have no spirit. Time for him to go.

mike

June 18th, 2009
11:27 pm

ant banks, you are talking about future hall of famers. None of them are actually in the hall of fame and you forgot chipper(for sure) and possibly Mcann if the things keep going the way they are. Oh yeah not to mention BOBBY COX! you SUX!

Bryan G.

June 18th, 2009
11:31 pm

Mark:

Glad you remember that! It was so clear he didn’t want to hit Murph but he had to protect his team. It was the only time I’ve ever seen a pitcher thrown out of a game for throwing at someone and not put up an argument.

Great memory of Glavine, I think.

Bryan G.

June 18th, 2009
11:32 pm

P.S. – Feel differently about Tommy than you do Smoltzie, Mark?

Mark Bradley

June 18th, 2009
11:35 pm

Just a tad, Bryan. Just a tad.

Rod

June 18th, 2009
11:54 pm

This sorta proves the Braves’ brass was right. He doesn’t have the stuff to get out Major Leaguers anymore. If he did, someone would come calling.

g kelly

June 19th, 2009
12:20 am

glavine was an incredible athelete and a smart guy. most people resent him because of his leadership role with the union. the only reason he did that was because he was smarter than 99% of the other players. you cannot hold that against him. i’ll bet that, if pressed, he would admit that leaving for the mets was a mistake. in my opinion, he would have accumulated 10 more victories with the braves. again, he probably left because of his role in the union. he could not be seen as accepting a lesser contract, even though it was in his best interest. are’nt the union and the owners great? what we need is a FAN’S UNION to represent the FAN’S interests. i am not joking, this is a serious suggestion. most fans, not all, would agree when it comes to many of the peripheral issues in sports. we should be represented and be heard in some some formal way, not when the sportscasters want to give us a minimal opportunity (mailtime!). anyone else agree? anyway, i liked glavine!

Ted Striker

June 19th, 2009
12:20 am

Unfortunately, Glavine’s bitterness toward the team that did so much for him (and yes, toward the team he did much for) is exactly how many will remember him. As great grandpappy Striker once told me when I was 11 years old: “it takes a lifetime to build a good reputation and only one small instance to destroy it.”

(When I turned 18, he told me that “a good reputation was greatly overrated.” And that “bad girls are more fun, just to be careful and get a pre-nup if you decide to marry one.”)

J.Cole

June 19th, 2009
12:24 am

We loved our trio and our manager in the day ,still do. But its time to move on.

David C

June 19th, 2009
12:28 am

Braves saved 2.5 million that no other team will spend 500k on.

Mitchell

June 19th, 2009
12:32 am

Yo Brad,

You know, I was doing a little orgainzin’ the other day as I am want to do and I found a program from opening night in April (officially the last time Kelly Johnson made solid contact). I was surprised to see Tommy on the cover along with the other starters. I guess I had forgotten.

It really does seem odd that a guy who was supposed to be a part of the rotation and who was scheduled to have a delayed start but after another of several set-backs he then gets released right when he had completed his comeback.

I still think it’s a rip-off. I wanted to see him pitch just one more time in a Braves uniform. It looked like he might never pitch again after his final appearance last year in a brutal loss to the Cubs. All I wanted was to see him throw a single pitch on a mound in a real game. I wasn’t sure if it would be possible, his arm could fall off for all I know but I just don’t get why they would dump a guy who they put on all sorts of team media publications.

You’ll see that I’m not just an optimist as you said, we’re taking two from the Sawx this weekend at the least… quote me on that, I dare you. Nevertheless, we’re probably not going to finish much better at the end of this year than we did last year in which case Frank Wren will officially have no authority on who can and cannot help this team win.

BraveCat

June 19th, 2009
12:37 am

Gosh Mark, you sure are out of the loop. My people tell me ALL the MLB teams were beating down his door begging Glavine to pitch for them. He asked for 10 Million, they only offered 9.5M. Those union negotiations can be tricky. I guess he will wait……….geez. HAHA. Retire already, Glavine!!!

YoungerThanThatNow

June 19th, 2009
12:39 am

Thank you Mark Bradley… and the difference in your opinion of Glavine and Smoltz is very evident, and I’m sure, justly so.

In my opinion (I know, everybody has one) the Braves saved Tom Glavine some embarassment. That may not have been their primary intent, but still it was accomplished, and I think that the fact that there was no line of teams waiting to take him on further proves that he was not up to pitching at a major league level and will never be again.

I like Tom Glavine and greatly appreciate his contribution to Braves history but it’s time to call it a career, and a great one.

John Smoltz will pitch in the major leagues again, but I seriously doubt that he’ll ever be effective for any extended time frame again. I hope that I’m wrong and wish him well but he too should call it a career while he can do it in a noble way.

And Ant Banks… no this isn’t NY, Boston or Chicago… thank God!

Boo Boo

June 19th, 2009
12:57 am

Maybe Tommy is going to learn the knuckleball from Knucksie over the next 9 months, and come back with that? An 80 mph knuckleball would be hard to hit. Glavine could milk another 5 years, as long as he gets players to swing and miss enough times.

But then … if that doesn’t work, he should officially retire. The Braves will need a new hitting coach next year.

Craig

June 19th, 2009
1:02 am

Thank you Tom. I appreciate everything you’ve done. I can’t wait to see Braves Day in Cooperstown in 2013. Come on Braves fans!!!!!!!

Bikerdoode

June 19th, 2009
1:04 am

Glavine didn’t produce and was treated accordingly. Atlanta owes him nothing and no longer needs his whining.

Poorbrave

June 19th, 2009
1:09 am

Thanks for the years, Believe its best for you and team to retire.Wish you would take Bobby Cox with you.

Maybe You will come back as a Coach in couple years.

Legend of Len Barker

June 19th, 2009
1:22 am

I wonder if Glavine can now concede that Wren and others of the organization were right and that he can’t successfully pitch at the highest level anymore.

I’m hoping he gets over being stung. Niekro, Murphy, Gant, and Aaron all did and have become great ambassadors for the team.

While the name is on my mind, will Niekro be giving us a little pep talk before Tim Wakefield makes us look foolish again? Ever since he debuted in 1992, the man has baffled us.

Adam

June 19th, 2009
1:42 am

Once they clean house after another 90-loss disaster maybe the new front office will have room for some of the Braves who truly put this franchise on the map.

No legend from any professional team should end a career by being cut. If Wren didn’t have all the info, he should have NEVER signed him.

wmac

June 19th, 2009
1:53 am

maybe the mets will pay you to pitch, you took the money and ran, being the player rep that you were..i’m sorry you left the braves we owe you nothing. It’s a business after all. Nothing personal. thanks for everything. bye

Bryan

June 19th, 2009
2:43 am

I don’t suppose anyone knows if there’s any video of the time Glavine brushed back Murph? I missed it when it happened, and I’ve always wanted to see it — but haven’t found it online anywhere.

r martin die hard braves fan

June 19th, 2009
3:38 am

Glavine did the right thing with the Murphy brushback! Class act then and will always be a brave.. The met thing just happens in todays world..Me and my boys will always remember and love Tom

Will

June 19th, 2009
5:30 am

Leaving for the Mets was bad, but the real issue was when he proclaimed, “The fans just don’t understand” during the 1994 strike. Guess what, Tommy G. Most fans understood this one from the start – you’re all washed up.

Now go enjoy your family and the luxurious lifestyle you’ve earned for yourself.

TBraveFan

June 19th, 2009
5:58 am

libby –
You are correct – what goes around comes around – and that’s why the Braves are playing the miserable way they are….there’s mega talent on this team yet they just can’t seem to get it together… Karma is a real biotch.
Love ya Tommy, all I wished for you was one more year here to finish out a great career. You deserved that much – but got screwed instead – yep, what goes around comes around….

Ken Stallings

June 19th, 2009
6:30 am

Hard sometimes to know whether these hate-Glavine posts are merely children acting out on a public stage, or legitimately expressed vitriol.

You know, this guy was the winning pitcher for the only World’s Championship earned by a major pro sports team in Atlanta history folks!

If Tommy’s pitched his last game I so genuinely hope he can get over the anger and disappointment and look forward to writing his Hall of Fame speech, posing with the plaque (with the A on the front) and perhaps even before that day taking an offer to become a pitching coach in the Braves organization.

Georgie boy

June 19th, 2009
6:53 am

Great talent, great arm… but no class. It was always about him. How can anyone be so greedy to leave a team you have been with for years, uproot your family and move to new york. over a few more dollars. It wasn’t like it (the money) was going to change his lifestyle. give me a break. You should be paid whatever the market will bear…however being a family man you should think about your wife and kids. His name plate at coopertown should read 305 wins, great arm, selfish bast—-.

Mitch C

June 19th, 2009
7:10 am

The classy thing for him to do, after twenty two years in the major leagues, 305 wins, and a Hall of Fame career, would be to call a press conference somewhere in Atlanta, even if not at Turner Field, because it’s too difficult, and announce his retirement.

Tom Glavine hasn’t been cheated out of anything. He has 305 wins, Two Cy Youngs, A World Series Championship, Twelve playoff appearances for the Braves and Mutts, All Star Game Selections, and a World Series MVP. The guy has experienced everything possible in major league baseball, won every award, had every honor, and won the best thing possible, a World Series. Even if he never throws another pitch, Glavine has had a complete career.

It will be great to see Glavine, Maddux and Smoltz in the Hall of Fame, as an acknowledgement of just how awesome the Braves pitching staff was in the glory days.

I will be very surprised if Glavine is given any chance by a major league team in 2010, especially at age 44, and after not having pitched in a game for almost two years. Chances are, his career is over.

Mitch

eastbound and down

June 19th, 2009
7:10 am

Bryan,
My son and I were at the game in Philly in 91 and fortunately had seats behind home plate. in the previous inning, the braves got their bullpen up and i told my son, “why the heck are they doing that? Glavine is pitching a great game?” well, we found out soon enough. Glavine and Murphy both handled the situation with class. One of the few benefits of being a displaced braves’ fan.

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Nativebird

June 19th, 2009
7:50 am

done for now….and forever. here we go again, the Brett-Favre’inaztion of over-the-hill athletes just won’t go away!

Shoeless Joe

June 19th, 2009
7:50 am

I’m tired of hearing people misrepresent the facts. When Glavine was a free agent, he provided the Brave’s with a number which was fair. They didn’t respond for a period of time, and he began to entertain the idea of playing for another team. The Met’s eventually made an offer that was better than the one he provided the Brave’s. He went back and told the Brave’s that, notwithstanding the Met’s offer, he would still play for them for his original proposed number. They did not accept, and he opted to play for New York. What would any reasonable person have done in a similar situation?

JS apologized for the way that situation was handled, just as he apologized for this latest fiasco. The common denominator is the Brave’s don’t appreciate any player who doesn’t see it their way from the get go. Bobby Cox engendered a lot of loyalty from his three HOF pitchers. The front office benefited by this loyalty and hasn’t shown they can match it by their actions. The Brave’s are suffering organizatonally because of it.

SimpleDawg

June 19th, 2009
7:52 am

Unfortunately for Tommy, Father Time and injuries have caught up with him….fortunately for the Braves, the scouts could seperate sentimentality from reality when assessing his capabilities. Hopefully Tommy will have a dignified retirement without any public humiliation of getting shelled in a few more games.

For Smoltzie, He shouldn’t be denegrating the Braves…he decided he preferred more money to playing for his long time team who supported him and gave him the opportunities to mold his career on a stage that would certify his Hall of Fame credentials. If his return to the mound ends badly….I’ll not shed a tear. In fact, I’d love to see him pitch against the Braves and get hammered.

No hard feelings….? Nah, not too much.

Adam Price

June 19th, 2009
8:28 am

Glavine will be missed and it is hard to see it possibly end like this. Glavine will always be a Brave and hopefully fans will get over the fact that he left for a short period of time and appreciate what he has done for this community and organization. Like Smoltz, it is hard to find classy, professional players anymore. Say what you want about Glavine, but all these athletes these days all follow the money. Good players switch teams 4-5 times. Glavine did this once. I appreciate what he has done for the Braves and will miss seeing him pitch. I look forward to him entering the Hall of Fame as a Brave.

Don't Tase Me Bro

June 19th, 2009
8:30 am

So much for his arm being good enough to pitch in MLB. With pitching watered down as it is, it is telling that no one – repeat NO ONE – wanted him anymore. Don’t let the door hit ya on your way out Tom, goodbye for good.

timthebrave

June 19th, 2009
8:49 am

It is the right decision for him not to pitch this year and the right decision to bring hanson up. I look forward to him being inducted into the hall of fame as an Atlanta Brave. Go Braves!

Mark Bradley

June 19th, 2009
9:15 am

I’ve heard so much about what did (or didn’t) happen in the negotiations of December 2002 that I don’t know what’s what. All I know is Glavine wouldn’t have gone to the Mets had the Braves not done something to make him mad. And, at least from his side of the table, they did.

O Thomason

June 19th, 2009
9:36 am

Mark, I want to say I think Bobby is a great basesball guy yet what you wrote today is so true. I also agree its time for Francouer to move on. I agree that we have talent, such as Tommy Hanson and others but its Bobby can’t turn his old ways loose.

Phil

June 19th, 2009
9:43 am

I appreciate all Glavine has done for the Braves. It’s a shame we treat guys like him and Smoltz with such little respect and dignity. They deserved to go out better than they did. Cox continues to keep us near last place instead of first place year after year but we keep that Moron. Go figure.

sidslid

June 19th, 2009
9:46 am

If he isn’t pitching, then seems to me Wren’s decision is validated. Saved the team a million bucks.

Mrs. Chanandler Bong

June 19th, 2009
9:48 am

In reference to the Dale Murphy/Tom Glavine game, does anyone remember who the Phillies reliever was that hit Otis Nixon? Funny how things turn out.