All-Trade Friday: Should the Hawks deal Josh Smith?

Agreed. You know what you’ve got with Joe. Knowing that, I could live with it if we let him go. It would be tough to replace him, but I could live with it. You still don’t know quite what you have with Josh. I’ve seen too many flashes of greatness to live with it if we were to let him go. I think he’s got tons of untapped potential. If we keep Joe, we get better by who we add to the squad. He’s as good as he’s going to get (which, I must say, is far above average). We keep Josh & there’s the potential for the squad to improve merely because of his growth as a player.

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I disagree 100%. First the Hawks shouldn’t trade either, but if it had to come down to that, Josh will have to go. If you actually watch the Hawks, you’ll know Josh has a way to go to become an all-star. If we keep waitin on him to become that all-star, teams would already be better than us. The time is now for the hawks to get that best team style. Don’t forget that every team is always trying to get better. Plus, Joe is the face of the organization!!

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We forget the Josh was THE best player his senior year in High School. He has the upside, I’m afraid that coach woodson will NEVER be able to polish this young man into ONE of the ELITE players in the league!

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I think Josh Smith is the guy to keep. He’s 23/24 years, and has a much better chance at being one of the league’s top 5 talent! The Hawks would be stupid to get rid of a 23 year old that can score, rebound, play defense, etc. But, I don’t think J-Smoove can be that great player under Mike Woodson. He has to learn offense to be successful, not defense.

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Josh Smith is a turnover machine. I cringe when I see him taking off downcourt on a break, knowing he’ll turn the ball over. This guy just cannot learn to give the ball to the point guard to bring it upcourt and cannot learn to not take the long jump/set shot which he has about a 25% shooting percentage on. He just lacks in the upstairs department, he’s been a pro long enough to not hide behind that “young and still developing” thing.

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He has plateaued. B-ball players don’t improve exponentially. You can do a lot better than Josh Smith for $70MM.

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Brandon,

That leader would be me!

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Nevergiveup!!!,

I am that coach!

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No

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GREAT job Mr. Bradley. I saw JJJ Joe can be GGG Gone before Smoove is gone.

Joe is a great player, but Smoove has potential to be ridiculous. Can he be, though, is the question.

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You still have the pick left and Andersson from Europe, who is doing pretty well and is considered one of the top PF over there. He is not a child anymore at 28, what are we waiting for??? He could replace Horford when he needs to rest and provide at least 15 pts., 7 rebounds.

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Mark, I am a JJ fan, and a Josh Smith fan. Before we trade either of them, I would like to see what another coach could do. A coach who has an offensive scheme (instead of just iso-JJ), a coach who does not play JJ 40 mpg, a coach who knows to let the Hawks play inside out (like you said, JJ had as many shots as Al and Josh combined), a coach who does not play a switching defense so that our bigs are usually out of position. Can we trade Woody?

Josh is cheaper and younger. But the problem with Josh is you dont know if he will ever mature, if he will ever develop a jump shot, if he will ever learn to play within himself, if he will ever get along with Woody. Whereas JJ is already a top 5 SG, a 3 time All-Star, invited to try out for Olympic team.

I’m glad I’m not Rick Sund, because I dont know. I would trade Josh because I think it is easier to replace him than it is to replace JJ.

David Andersen is a PF. Even if we dont sign Zaza and we sign Andersen, we still need a center (like Gortat from Cleveland, J. Collins etc.)

I guess

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NBA is definitely a star driven league and you can bring in vets and win quick. I would trade him in a heartbeat for Amare Stoudemire or Chris Bosh if I could work out an extension. A better deal would be to get Camby from the Clippers, he was acquired for a 2nd round pick last year so I am sure he could be had cheap especially since the Clips will get Griffin. You get Camby in the middle, move Horford to the PF spot Smith to the SF spot, the move Marvin for a pg like Raymond Felton or maybe Mike Conley, let Bibby go as a FA and bring back J Chills and Zaza.

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You don’t trade any one of them.You sign Joe to an extension.If you trade anyone it’s Chill,Al,or Marvin.They’re young an have trade potential.You build around Joe and Smoove.It’s time for Spirit group to spend money.This off-season is make or break.You cant get equal value for joe or smith

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Mark I know this is off topic but do you think the Hawks would be better served trading pick 19 and maybe Speedy’s deal for a veteran player considering #1. They are looking to go farther in the playoffs as oppsed to rebuilding ( unless they lose everybody in a free agency disaster) and #2. Rick Sund has a horrible draft record.

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Man if any of you think that Josh SMith is the future of this team you are badly mistaken. He has hit his peak. You don’t pay a guy 60 million dollars and “hopes” that he get better. He is not young anymore. Josh has been a starter in the NBA for 5 years. He still is a turn over machine, he still does stupid things, he still has an attitude, he can’t play defense worth a damn. Don’t let the declining blocks fool you one bit. He CANNOT play one on one defense. He takes bad shots. HE s good for a highlight or two but that is it. He is what he is.

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Andersson is a good, maybe even great PF but definently not a C. If anybody has paid any attention to some upcoming goods, McGhee from Washington, Hawes from Sacramento, Gasol from Memphis, these are future Centers in the NBA.
We should get a young uknown center who can grow and be cheat at this point.
If we get rid of JJ, then send him to Chicago for Ben Gordon and maybe even include Marvin in there for Tyrus Thomas.

We do need to let go off Bibby, he is not very consistent and terrible on defense. Give Acie a chance for a few months, if he is not ready you can always start Murry.

You can’t get Bosh for anything we have. Established big men are not going to come here without another threat who can create his own shots.

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You know, I can be a leader, too?

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Al Horford,

Quite lying, man!

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Ah, Othello. I think you meant “quit”, not “quite”? LOL!

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Wetherson, what the hell are you talking about? ” He’s not young anymore?” the man is only 23 years old. Yes he tends to try to handle the ball too much and turns it over sometimes, but lets not forget he was the only guy that consistently showed up in the playoffs for us while the rest of the team adored Lebron as he walked thru the lane and dunked. Josh and Horford should be the only locks that will be here 5 years from now. Too much ups and downs by Joe.

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Josh Smith should be traded now before the hawks fans begin to hate him. If he is not traded, he should at least be turned into a 6th man that doesn’t have the responsibility of being consistent like the starters. Bibby will be considered overpaid the moment we give him a 4 year extension, so we should think about moving on and signing Jared Jack. Keep Marvin on the cheap and start looking for big men in the draft and in free agency. We need to get tougher on the inside.

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There is a very good chance that Josh is as good as he will ever be. Players that get better are they guys that have good attitudes and work ethic. I don’t see that happening with Josh. He will continue to rely on his athleticism and will remain a good, but not great player. Joe is a much better player that should be re-signed.

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Josh Smith is no doubt a great player. However, he lacks the discipline and court savy of past great players. He has yet to step up and lead, but the Jury is still out. I think he definitely trade material!

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Josh for Bosh and throw Speedy in to make the trade legal!!!

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YOU KNOW WHAT IS REAL MESSED UP!!!!

So many people talk about Josh Smith and his upside, but the fact remains he already spent a summer working on his dribbling and his jump shot and his post moves and outside of MAYBE the post moves he is below average in all of those areas.

However Marvin Williams well when he took the time between summer and classes to work no his three he came back as one of the best three point shooter on the team.

So he has more upside? The one who can develop his skills, listen to the coach, and play to his strengths or the one who is older than Marvin Williams and cannot do any of the things previously just stated.

When it comes down to it I would not trade either, but if I had to trade somebody on the team It would go in this order, Speedy Claxton, Mo Evans, and Josh Smith. And the reason Smith makes this list is because of statements here like this blog made he has the most upside he is so young. A team would over give for Smith, but not for Joe and not for MArvin, but maybe for Al.

Geeze are you asking who makes the most exciting play or who has the most potential

And whoever said he was the best player his year in H.S. um lets see Dwight Howard, Sebastian Telfair, Al Jefferson, Shaun Livingston, then Josh Smith now yes Sebastian Telfair and Shaun Livingston are ghost, but lets move Lamarcus Alridge, and Rudy Gay up there ahead of him and J.R. Smith, and personally MArvin williams for best players out of his H.S. class.

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Once again ……. none of this matters unless we get a new coach!!!!!

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We need a true Center and true PF. This can only be achieved by trading Smoove for a center (Kaman + trash) and moving Horford to PF. I am SO TIRED of us abusing the PF and C positions

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Tough call either way.

I could go for the “trade Josh for Chris Bosh” thing, but there aren’t many offers I’d take when it comes to Josh Smith.

Whoever said there are better options than Josh at $70 million hasn’t got a clue. It was Joe who we signed to a $70 million contract. Josh was signed to $58 million. Get your facts straight. But here’s some comparisons for ya: Luol Deng got $71 million, and Andre Iguodala got $57 million. How did those two guys do in comparison to Smith?

Josh can improve on his jumper, and put more effort into rebounding. Perhaps both he and Horford would do better on defense if they weren’t having to pick up the slack for Mike Bibby all the time.

Speaking of which, you need two things to keep your speedy power forward from running the break all by himself: a point guard who is capable and willing to run the break, and a coach who will allow it. Until then, it appears only a small contingent of Hawks players seem to believe in running the break when the opportunity presents itself. And they’re all forwards…

Guarantee: Josh Smith will not be a top 10 player in the NBA on this team or any other team at any point in his career. He has no discipline, an atrocious shot, and a terrible basketball IQ. Its not about coaching with him. Yes he will get better than he is now, but he is no franchise player nor someone you look at to lead your team in any way. At most, Josh Smith is a fun player to watch and a compliment to some team looking for an exciting 2nd or 3rd scoring option who can make the highlight reel to put on the JumboTron during the intro’s of every home game. Trade him now before the rest of the league figures this out.

Gee, that sounds so familiar. Wonder where I’ve heard it before? So, are we more interested in having a “top 10″ player, or in winning a championship? Some people don’t consider Joe to be a top 10 player either. And guess what? He’s as good as he’s going to be, so if he’s not top 10 now, he’s not going to be top 10 ever. But that’s hardly the point, now is it?

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Josh Smith will never lead a team anywhere. He has absolutely no fundamentals, NO Defensive ability, middle school players have a better jump shot, and finally the maturity level of a 12 year old. No coach will ever be able to get anything out of him. As long as Josh Smith is part of the Atlanta Hawks, anyone who respects the game will never go and watch his constant temper tantrums.

Isn’t it amazing there was no interest in him when he became a free agent. Even the LA Clippers were glad when the Hawks were foolish enough to match their offer. He has no trade value and will be out on the street with nothing to fall back on other than his street cred which doesn’t pay the bills.

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It is not a given that Josh Smith will eventually realize his talent. He is a great slam dunker, but not offensive player. He is a great shot blocker, but not a great defender. It would depend on what you could get for Josh Smith. If you could get a premium point guard in return for him, I think you trade him. Atlanta still needs a legit point guard. Mike Bibby ain’t the answer.

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I don’t understand all of the negative comments about Josh Smith and then the same people want to trade him for Chris Bosh. If Josh is that bad, let’s just trade him for Kobe or Lebron. I’m sure we could do that if we just throw in Speedy.

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Take Bibby, Childress, and Claxton and trade them to the Raptors for Calderon and next year’s first round draft pick.

Bring Andersson back.

Take Joe and trade him to Orlando for Gordat and Turkuglu.

Now you have:

PG Calderon
SG Turkuglu
SF Smith
PF Horford
C Gordat

PG Law
SG Murry
SF Evans
PF Andersson
C Zaza

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Mark, what about Acie Law, i feel if we let him leave he will shine with another team just like Diaw did and just like Salim will this year with the bucks..Woody does not like young Pgs and has not given Acie Law a chance to develop.If he would have been playing Law the last 2 yerars we would have a easy decision to make on bibby and in the draft..Mark, i think until we get rid of woody we will never get better, what do you think? woody has also held back Marvin and josh because every play is iso Joe..Damn i dont like Woody..

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Josh is Josh. Probably the most athletic player in the league, and cursed to having spent his first 5 years in the league under Mike Woodson, who has made no effort to develop him or run plays that get him the ball while he’s already in motion (which is when he’s at his best). I think he might be a 20/10 guy had he gone to Portland rather than here. But he didn’t, and now the issue is what to do with Josh going forward. It’s pretty clear at this point that he’s a PF, not a SF; his slow release and hitchy form on his jumper combined with his subpar ballhandling skills and mediocre on-ball perimeter defense make working at the SF impossible, but his incredible jumping ability and chiseled physique more than makes up for his slightly-below-average height at the PF position.

Oh, and the idea that Josh will be the best player on the team in 2 years…that’s something people were saying 3-4 years ago. It hasn’t happened. Right now, it’s not even close. Teams leave Josh wide open on the perimeter routinely while they double and triple team JJ every time the latter touches the ball. Josh is a great help defender, but he still is mediocre at defending players on the ball. Most disturbing is the fact that after 5 years in the league, he still is making a lot of the same, easy-to-fix mistakes that he made as a rookie (taking contested three pointers with 10 seconds left on the clock, bringing the ball up the court himself instead of passing it to a guard with predictable results, biting on head fakes whenever he’s playing on-ball defense…). He certainly has improved since his rookie year, but I honestly haven’t noticed any perceptible improvement since 2007. If he hasn’t improved in the past two years, why on earth would we think he’d make a big leap in the next two years?

In any case, the bigger problem is that Horford is also a natural PF, and while he’s certainly passable as a C, I think the team would be best off with him at his natural position – and I think Horford is a better PF than Josh is.

And then there’s Marvin. He didn’t get any more touches than he did a year ago on offense, but was both more aggressive taking the ball to the basket AND developed a beautiful stroke from behind the arc. Beyond that, he became our best perimeter defender, something that pretty never shows up in the stats (see: Shane Battier, Bruce Bowen (circa 2006), Tayshaun Prince). The stats did not reflect the big leap that Marvin took forward this year across the board. In any case, he clearly is a better SF than Josh would be, thanks to Marvin’s smooth outside stroke, good-and-still-improving ability to take it to the rack and get to the line, and now-great perimeter defense.

So it’s really not even a question of Josh vs. JJ, and this article is a bit inane for suggesting that it is. (And yes, I realize that Bradley is only repeating what ESPN and other folks are saying…but everyone who reads Sekou’s blog knows what I think about ESPN’s opinions on the Hawks, and I see no reason why Bradley feels the need to write about this on his blog AGAIN.). JJ and Josh don’t play the same positions, they don’t have clashing playing styles, they don’t have prohibitive contracts, and they seem to get along well as teammates. The question is more who would fit in better on a title contending team. And on that question, I actually think that there are 3 guys on the team (JJ, Horford, and Marvin) that I would place higher on the “untouchable list” than Josh.

All that being said, Josh is still an eye-popping talent with skill sets we aren’t likely to get anywhere else. We shouldn’t trade him unless we’re getting back a big-time player in return.

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lol at all the haters on here.. Get over it Josh is not going anywhere, Marvin and Al WILL NEVER be better than Smoove is.. If you dont like him or his game get over it and find another team to watch.. Atlanta has the dumbest sports fans in the league..

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I notice everytime the Raptors came in town, the Hawks atmosphere was “hyped” for some reason. Maybe Bosh would fit well? Maybe we should trade for the whole Raptors team? I don’t know, it’s just something about the Raptors. TRADE FOR TJ FORD!!!

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RealSquawk,

Actually, you nailed at least half of what I was thinking. The ball does get put in Josh’s hands more than Marvin’s, or so it looks to me. And while we could certainly follow that trail of bread crumbs to a particular destination (read: head coach), I won’t blame it all in one place.

As Bradley suggests, I think Marvin also holds himself back. How else do you explain a guy like Josh getting more touches (and producing more)when he has 1)a worse jumper, 2)supposedly less IQ, and 3) “less coachable” characteristics?

It boggles the mind. You say Josh’s stats went down across the board. You’re right, they did. Still higher than Marvin’s, who played nearly the same minutes per game as Josh. Why wouldn’t a head coach be giving the ball more to a player who does what he’s supposed to and is a better talent, as people claim?

Here’s what REALLY amuses me. We’re mad at a #17 pick out of high school for not becoming an all-star yet, and are ready to throw him to whomever for a center (look, we’re not getting anybody’s starting center) at the ripe old age of 23. “Oh, it’s been 5 years, he’s no better than when he started.” “Oh, he’s not going to get any better.”

Yet….

We continually take our highest draft pick (#2) in the last decade, who is still not outperforming the “athletic dummy”, and we say “Oh, he’s going to be an all-star next year, I can just FEEL it!”. Been hearing that for the last couple of years. But hey, isn’t that what you draft a guy #2 for? #17 is exactly two spots above what we have this year (#19), and we’re talking about not even getting somebody who is likely to get playing time.

No, this isn’t all based on draft picks, but one cannot throw out that part of the argument without being blatantly facetious.

It’s easy to say that Marvin is a more natural SF than Josh. Of course he is, which is why he’s playing SF, while Josh is playing PF. Duh. But that isn’t what this is about. It’s about an all-star SG who has peaked, and a young PF who has not.

If you think Josh has peaked at 23, then Marvin has peaked as well. Hasn’t he? Ahhhhh, so the age thing isn’t as convenient factor after all.

I don’t see us getting a starting-caliber center for Josh. I’ve heard Josh for Andris Biedrins, but don’t see it happening. Even Nellie’s not that dumb (watch, then the trade will be announced next week, heh heh). So, if you’re going to trade him, it better be for another PF with better offensive skills (Bosh), or a very good, young pg. I don’t see the pg thing happening, because if the pg is that good, no way is his team parting with him. Just like a starting center…

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Real Squawk you are right about Marvin. I keep trying to tell people that he is the better player of the two. The problem is that Marvin is the fourth option on the team behind Joe, Smoove, and Bibby in that order. Marvin is efficient. We seen how well he played when JJ and Smoove were hurt. That should be the barometer of the talent that this kid has. He is the only Hawk that can give Lebron James problems on defense. Smoove can not play SF. He is a tweener. Tweeners are usually exploited come playoff time. You ever wondered why so many of his jumpers are wide open. He is a product of playing with Joe Johnson being tripled and double team. They will leave J-Smoove open all day long. He might have led us in scoring in the playoffs but 17 a game isn’t exactly lighting it up considering Marvin was out or played limited minutes in the post season. I am also for keeping everyone except Bibby but if we had to get rid of one of our core guys it as to be Smoove.

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Same Wetherson,

I’ll ask you the same questions. If Marvin is better, then how come we don’t see the results? Why is he the 4th option on offense (which you yourself noted to be true)?

I think everybody knows why Josh is wide open on a jumper. What nobody seems to have an answer for is how he still managed to shoot 49% from the field for the year, which was higher than our “better shooters.” If he is simply a product of JJ being tripled and doubled, then surely the more talented Marvin could benefit from this as well. Gee, I just don’t understand why he didn’t.

I have to admit, 17ppg in the playoffs wasn’t very impressive. Yet it was a team high. Wow, this is getting even harder to explain. Must have been a mixture of two things: pure blind luck and athleticism. Of course, if that’s the case, then Mario West could have led us in scoring in the playoffs….

But you’re right. Marvin’s way better. He averaged 13.9ppg and 6.3 rpg. Definitely an improvement over the previous year (14.8ppg and 5.7ppg). In fact, I say he makes the all-star team next year if he continues to improve at that rate. We should trade Josh now, while other teams think he’s worth a bag of peanuts and a player to be named later, perhaps a center who starts on the local D-league squad.

Championship, here we come!

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If Marvin is better, then how come we don’t see the results?
We do when he gets the ball. But he doesn’t get the ball except on 1) bail out passes or 2) when JJ is out of the game.

Why is he the 4th option on offense (which you yourself noted to be true)?
See above. Why didn’t Boris Diaw get the ball on offense until after we traded him?

I think everybody knows why Josh is wide open on a jumper. What nobody seems to have an answer for is how he still managed to shoot 49% from the field for the year, which was higher than our “better shooters.”
Because he hits about 40% of his open jumpers and 60% of his shots within 12 feet (I admit that I’m guesstimating here). The problem is that 40% isn’t a very good percentage when you’re wide open – and teams leave him wide open all the time because they can live with Josh shooting jump shots.

If he is simply a product of JJ being tripled and doubled, then surely the more talented Marvin could benefit from this as well. Gee, I just don’t understand why he didn’t.
Well, he did. But when JJ drives, the opposing teams leave Josh open on the perimeter more often than Marvin. Thus, JJ’s kick-out passes go back to Josh more frequently than to Marvin.

I have to admit, 17ppg in the playoffs wasn’t very impressive. Yet it was a team high. Wow, this is getting even harder to explain. Must have been a mixture of two things: pure blind luck and athleticism.
Yeah, and we all saw how well the Hawks did in the playoffs. We were such a consistent team with Josh as our top scoring threat…

But you’re right. Marvin’s way better. He averaged 13.9ppg and 6.3 rpg. Definitely an improvement over the previous year (14.8ppg and 5.7ppg). In fact, I say he makes the all-star team next year if he continues to improve at that rate. We should trade Josh now, while other teams think he’s worth a bag of peanuts and a player to be named later, perhaps a center who starts on the local D-league squad.
See my last post re: both of these.

There’s no comparison between Josh and Marvin. Josh is a game-changer. Marvin isn’t.
I seem to recall that when JJ went down for two games in February, it was Marvin who carried us to two wins on the road. But I guess that doesn’t count, right? I know, you probably weren’t really paying attention to the Hawks before they made the playoffs (as your lack of posts during the regular season indicates). But those of us who actually watched a majority of the games saw what Sekou wrote in his season-ending summary – Marvin was having a breakout year before he got hurt.

And you’re right, Josh is a game changer. The problem, though, is that on any given day and even on any given play, you don’t the way in which he will change the game. He usually changes it for the better, but all too often he still changes it for the worse. The other problem is that sometimes game-changers aren’t what you need to get to the next level. There have been plenty of game-changers who never sniffed a title. I have a hunch Josh will join those illustrious ranks. When you’re working towards a title, more important than having a game changer is having a guy who gives the team what it needs when it needs it. If that weren’t the case, then Allen Iverson would have 7 rings and Robert Horry would have 0. But we all know what the real count is.

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PS – in case you didn’t figure it out, my first two responses in that last post were supposed to imply “Because Mike Woodson has no clue how to a) have an offensive scheme; or b) recognize or optimally utilize the talents of the players he has”

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“OPTIMALLY”???? wow

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Hoops

I see where you going with your comment involving Speedy, but here is my understanding of the trade rules involving players with unbalance salaries:

If a team trades away a player with a higher salary than the player they acquire in return (we’ll call this initial deal “Trade #1″), they receive what is called a Traded Player Exception. Teams with a trade exception have up to a year in which they can acquire more salary in other trades (Trade #2, #3, etc) than they send away, as long as the gulf in salaries for Trade #2, #3, etc are less than or equal to the difference in salary for Trade #1.

Therefore, with the trade exception feature, this deal wouldn’t need to be balance; because in addition to acquiring Josh, Toronto would also acquire a trade exception to use to acquire more players. To give them Speedy and the trade exception would be unnecessary on their end. However, on our end, I would still trade Speedy to dump his 5M to acquire Bosh, but I would use him in another trade with another team for a better long term deal. However, we both reached the same conclusion of higher risk to the Hawks, I just offered more scenarios.

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Big Ray, Mark Bradley,

I see two solution to this old age problem.

A scenario we keep all of them Josh, Marvin, and AL simply because they are still ridiculously young and will improve how much they individually improve is really up to them. If we keep all of them it presents us with two many options to have a one man offense and Woodson either changes or we get a new coach.

The other scenario is one of them is traded and we immediately regret it. That regret that we would fill will will be there for either one of them because if they are traded its because some one fills like they can maximize their potential.

And I definitely agree with Wetherson Marvin being the fourth option is of course going to place his scoring lower than it could be. thats going to happen for anyone who is the fourth option. If Josh is the guy then when joe was out I am pretty sure Woodson would have run the ball through him he isn’t incompetent.

You run the ball through Marvin more than Smith and then lets try to sit and compare stats.

We loose Marvin we loose one of the better on ball defenders on the team.

We loose Smith we loose one of the better Weak side shot blockers on the team.

Why loose either one if you could keep both.

And Big Ray I asked you a question man what about Josh moving to sixth man and focusing his energy into some parts of the game he can focus in on?

And yes I do think Mike Woodson is holding all of them back. Maybe its a bigger conspiracy he holds them back so that the ASG can sign them for less.

I think we will see how much Marvin is valued when free agency starts just like how we saw with Josh.

Until one of those things happens

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The Truth,

You are probably more versed on NBA trade rules than I am. My understanding is that the salaries must be within 125% plus $100,000.00. I’m not saying that I am right, that’s just my understanding. Manny T or niremetal – HELP!!!

Publix,

I guess it just boils down to one opinion vs. another. I would love to make the deal you suggested with Portland. I think Aldridge is a really good player and he could really help the Hawks. I just don’t see them agreeing to that deal, especially since I don’t believe Childress will come back.

As far as the trade with the Bulls, I just like JJ and Marvin as players better than Hinrich & Gordon. I think my plan of trading Speedy & Josh for Bosh gives the Hawks a much better chance to make a run for the title than your trade does. I understand and agree that we have got to sign a PG and Hinrich is a good one. But, I feel that we can sign Sessions, keep Acie, and resign Flip and we will be really good @ PG. Hopefully we are getting rid of a guard that does not play defense. We don’t need another one in Gordon.

Just my thoughts. This is fun!

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And I do not agree with the guy from SI either. at least his reasoning

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Mr. Bradley,

You are probably absolutely right Marvin would adjust far quicker than Josh.

And this a serious question. Is that a problem that Josh Smith would have such a problem still getting starters minutes but coming off the bench or is it that they type of competitive spirit we need on any team?

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Definitely agree,

Definitely Agree but I do think it would help Josh Smith if they were able to focus him in on giving this or that type of production off the bench in an energy filled matter, but I think the times he does look lost or out of game is because he hasn’t learned how to pace himself through a game consistently. And I think he would be able to provide more of a spark, but what is RS?

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