May 27th, 2009
11:44 am

Great post Cdog!

May 27th, 2009
10:29 pm

You are willfully ignorant and take pleasure in stupidity.

What you miss is that Za was brought here to start. He was a starter and he lost his job. Now by committee we have a power forward holding the post and doing better than our starter (formerly). That’s what you are missing. Now we are out of position and weaker at the post as a result.

As to your unlearned, and lazy charge that the hawks don’t have money to put the final pieces together…The Hawks have only committed 40mil, and the 2009-2010 salary cap may be 60 mil or better. That’s at least 20 Mil to shop with and keep the current salaries intact.

Quit begging for knowledge and stop spewing hate.

Sund may keep ‘core’ of Hawks together
By Mark Bradley
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Saturday, May 23, 2009

“I like the core of this club,” Sund said this week. “I’d like to keep as much of it together as I can.” His endorsement is a major factor: It means he likes what he has and wants to add, not subtract.
Sund inherited last summer’s free agents, and it’s no secret he valued Josh Childress less than ownership did. The fractious Atlanta Spirit actually gave the new general manager permission to exceed the salary cap on Childress —- you can do that to keep your own free agents —- and Sund declined.
Sund has a clear idea as to what he feels guys are worth. If it’s reasonable to assume this GM doesn’t see the 32-year-old Mike Bibby as worth $15 million, which is what he made last season, it’s reasonable others won’t, either.
Is another club apt to see Bibby as its missing piece and hand him, say, $10 million a year? (At his age, there’s no way he gets $15 million from anybody.) Is any team apt to see Marvin Williams, who made $5.6 million last season, as worth $9 million? (Remember, Josh Smith got $58 million over five seasons last summer, and that was because the economy cratered. And Smith is clearly the better player.)
A bad economy favors the Hawks, who have committed only $40 million for 2009-2010. (The salary cap was $59 million in 2008-2009.) A bad economy would allow Sund to say, “You can take a bit more cash to go lose games in Minneapolis, or you can stay where you know something good is happening. Your choice.”
Two guesses: Flip Murray will re-sign with the Hawks —- no GM likes Flip, more than Sund —- and Zaza Pachulia will leave. The destinations of Bibby and Williams seem more a coin flip…..

Sund and I agree on this much. Flip is a beast!!! I sure hope we can keep Marv. 3 years from now he will be one of the best play makers in the NBA, but I do agree that Josh is better right now.
What you miss is that Za was brought here to start. He was a starter and he lost his job. Now by committee we have a power forward holding the post and doing better than our starter (formerly). That’s what you are missing. Now we are out of position and weaker at the post as a result. Say Good bye to Z. The Hawks will probably take your advice and let Randolph Morris be the backup center (since you whine about development and he s cheaper) and go after the starter they thought ZaZa the human meltdown would be. Al Horford is going back to his natural position of PF.
Now you and Ken call a meeting of the Southern Chapter of The Grand Knights of the BUBBA CREW, and discuss your last efforts of hate!

Have you read any of the salary cap breakdown on Sekou’s blog? We don’t have enough money to sign all our guys plus this dominating center you seem to think is just sitting around waiting for us.

Check out the posts from “niremetal” & “MannyT” – these guys know the salary cap as well as anybody.

May 27th, 2009
6:42 pm

I cant tell whether I talking to you or Ken after he passed your instructions

Ken Strickland
May 26th, 2009
11:36 pm

Either way I wont waste the time to speak to you because you are apart of the Ken Strickland Bubba posse.

Just to enlighten you, have you looked at the hawks salary cap this up coming season? Did you look at who was undercontract and for how much? Why do I think you are just making blanket statement with no knowledge of facts? The Hawks are very capable of adding the two missing pieces and would have money left over. Im not going to waste my time dealing with your non issues while you try to fix what aint broke. You totally disregard the fact that you dont build a team around a back up center….Duh, what are you thinking? He wasnt brought here to be a back up and we dont need a slow ackward turnover machine picking his nose when we are trying to win a championship.

I Hope you enjoy this side bar:

NBA’s Top 10 Centers
By Terrell James
NBA Jun 18, 2007

Remember when big men ran the NBA? In the ’90s, superstars like Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Young Shaq and Young ‘Zo had a huge impact on the League’s balance of power, and even second-tier guys like Rik Smits, Brad Daugherty, Vlade and Elden Campbell put in work.
Those days are ancient history. Now it’s the era of Jerome James and Adonal Foyle, where all 7-footers have to do is look like they can play and they’re almost guaranteed a fat contract. That’s why Greg Oden has been so hyped since early in his high school career; if he doesn’t usher in a new era of dominant centers, he’ll at least destroy most of the fives in the League on his way to multiple championships. Who will be Oden’s top comp? We ranked the League’s 10 best centers…

10. Zydrunas Ilgauskas — He’s slow and methodical, but Big Z gets the job done, as he showed throughout the Cavs’ run to the Finals. When he gets involved in the offense, he’s a decent scorer (11.9 ppg) who can draw the opposing big man away from the basket. Z is a great offensive rebounder (7.7 rpg) — you saw all the tip-ins — and a decent shot-blocker (1.3 bpg). Of course there’s that nonexistent quickness and lateral movement, which exposes him against bigs with any kind of speed, but Z has a niche and fills it well.

9. Mehmet Okur — Definitely not the prototypical center; he spends all game on the perimeter, but then again, he’s one of the best shooters in the League, so why not? Memo hit on 38 percent of his threes this year and put up 17.6 points a night while making his first All-Star team. His problems are: one, he’s a shameless gunner, and two, he gets destroyed on defense sometimes. While he was good against Yao at times in the Houston series, Tim Duncan took Memo to daycare.

8. Ben Wallace — He got off to a rough start in Chicago (stats-wise and the whole headband thing), but eventually got back to that blue-collar style fans and teammates know and love. As always, he was amongst the League leaders in boards (10.7 rpg) and blocks (2.0 bpg), and as always, the offensive game was somewhere between minimal and comical (6.4 ppg, 40 percent at the stripe).

7. Eddy Curry — The Knicks haven’t had a decent center since Marcus Camby, so Curry’s breakthrough ‘06-07 season was like winning the Lottery for Knicks fans. E-City came into training camp in the best shape of his career (all jokes aside) and it showed; he went for 19.5 points a night and was a borderline All-Star. Curry commands a double-team, but still turns the ball over too much trying to pass out of it, and his rebounding (7.0 rpg) could stand to improve.

6. Tyson Chandler — A prime example of how a change of scenery and system can change someone’s career. After five lackluster years in Chicago, Chandler made an impact right away with the Hornets, and was one of the NBA’s best rebounders (12.4 rpg). He also put up 9.5 points and 1.8 blocks and shot 62 percent from the field — which makes sense seeing as a lot of his buckets come on alley oop finishes and putbacks. He was in the discussion for Most Improved and Defensive Player of the Year.

5. Marcus Camby — See what he can do when he’s healthy? Playing an iron-man-ish (by his standards) 70 games this year, Camby copped Defensive Player of the Year after averaging 11.7 boards and a League-high 3.3 blocks a night to go along with 11.2 points. He’s the only reason Denver’s D doesn’t give up 120 a game. He scored an invite to Team USA’s training camp, but the Nuggets understandably wanted Camby to stay home — and healthy — this summer.

4. Dwight Howard — Getting better every year. 2007 saw Dwight’s first All-Star appearance and his first playoff experience. After getting a lesson from the Pistons in a first-round sweep, Howard should be that much smarter and better next year. Physically, Howard is an animal who blocks shots (1.9 bpg), dunks on everyone in sight (17.6 ppg), and dominates the glass (12.3 rpg). If you were starting a team from scratch and were looking long-term, Dwight would be one of the Top 5 players you’d have to consider.

3. Shaquille O’Neal — Don’t get it twisted; Shaq is still one of the best in the game. When D-Wade went down with his shoulder injury this year, Shaq showed he’s still capable of being the most dominant player on the floor, helping carry the Heat from what looked like a Lottery season into fourth-place in the East. He put up 17.3 points, 7.4 boards and 1.4 blocks in an injury-shortened regular season, and upped his numbers to 18-8-1.5 in Miami’s first-round loss to Chicago. Yeah, he’s getting up there in age and misses more and more time on the bench in a suit, but there’s still few players who are harder to stop 1-on-1.

2. Amare Stoudemire — Not only did STAT come all the way back from the knee injury (playing all 82 games), he was better than the last time we saw him at his peak. Amare dropped 20.4 points and 9.6 boards on his way to getting All-NBA first team, went for 25 and 12 in the postseason, and added a 15-footer to his repertoire that makes him a certified problem for any defense.

1. Yao Ming — Instead of dominating for a few minutes here and there, Yao took over entire games this year, averaging 25 points, 9.4 boards and 2 blocks a night and entering the MVP discussion before a leg injury limited him to just 48 games. Yao’s conditioning has improved since he first came into the League, allowing him to stay on the court and avoid senseless fouls. Houston is still T-Mac’s team, but no way they even challenge Utah in seven games without the best center in the League.

Honorable mention: Emeka Okafor, Chris Kaman, Andrew Bogut, Nenad Krstic, Brad Miller

I DID NOT SEE ZA “THE CONTINUING TURNOVER” ZA NAME MENTIONED, EVEN AMONGST THE HONORABLE MENTIONED AND THIS ARTICLE WAS FROM THE LAST YEAR WHEN HE WAS STILL A STARTER. WE HAVE BACK UPS WHO NEED DEVELOPEMENT SINCE YOUR VISION IS TO DEVELOP BENCH PLAYERS. WE HAVE TWO YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED CENTERS TO HANDLE THE SCRUBB MINUTES,…FOR LESS!!

You Woody haters dont have a clue,nor facts or knowledge. All you do is hate. Instead of learning and researching you try to blame Woody because a player doesnt step up or doesnt take advantage of his opportunities. Nobody can play for you!

Its not Woodys fault Paschulia is a slow non athletic turnover factory. What? You expect Woody to make him into Tim Duncan? Get real. The NBA is litter with players on every team that have the physical ability and will not step up to the task. Paschulia is equal to Koncak!

Real players step up and make good.

The rest of them go home to mommy. Speaking of which…inst it about time for you to called Ken?

Truth – if we want a dominant center 2 of these 4 players will probably have to go (Marvin, Bibby, Josh, Al). Which would you keep & how would you fill out the rest of the roster.

If you inherit a 13 win team & don’t improve your record then you really are a poor coach.

I also heard ESPN/TNT guys talking about the Hawks total lack of offensive identity & their underdeveloped bench. They also said this team rotates poorly on defense. I suppose you didn’t hear any of that or chose to ignore that talk.

Antoine Walker, Boris Diaw, Al Harrington & many others were brought here to be starters as well. I’m not sure why you are so caught up with ZaZa. He is one of the better back-up centers in this league. Not everyone can start.