Bradley’s Buzz: More bad news for Georgia Tech hoops

Hewitt’s program takes yet another hit

Georgia Tech announced Wednesday it had “elected to forego” two basketball scholarships for the 2008-2009 season for what it believed would be its failure to meet the NCAA’s Academic Progress Report standard of 925. Sure enough, the just-released APR showed the Jackets falling to 914 in the reporting year of 2007-2008, down from 931 in 2006-2007.

This comes on the heels of Tech’s third losing season over its past four, the possible early loss of Gani Lawal to the NBA and the loss of assistant coach Charlton Young, who became head coach at Georgia Southern. It also follows Hewitt’s assertion that “our academics are in the best shape since I’ve been here.”

His point was that any academic issues might have had — in 2007-2008, say — have since been ironed out. In the same March interview, Hewitt noted that six Jackets made the dean’s list last semester. He also admitted he “tried to fight the APR hard because I thought it could have an effect on our program.”

The obvious immediate solution to this run of bad news would be to win a lot of games next season. And that could happen. Rivals.com rates Tech’s recruiting class as No. 3 nationally, and Scout.com has it No. 5. (Scout has signee Derrick Favors of South Atlanta as the nation’s No. 1 prospect.)

But the famous Andy Katz of ESPN.com doesn’t have Tech in his updated Top 25 for next season. (He does have four ACC teams — North Carolina, Duke, Clemson and Boston College.) Neither does ESPN Insider Doug Gottlieb, though he does list the Jackets as a team that “should see a major jump in wins.” (Link requires registration.)

Sorry, there are no polls available at the moment.

(The consensus is that Kansas will be preseason No. 1, which should delight esteemed colleagues Dave O’Brien and Christoph Fuhrmans, if no one else. Me, I’ve got KU No. 3 behind Bucknell and Bradley, but maybe that’s just just me.)

And Fran Fraschilla, yet another ESPN Insider, quibbles with some of Katz’s and Gottlieb’s Top 25 picks but doesn’t raise any objection (requires registration) over Tech’s omission. And Gary Parrish of CBSsports.com, writing last month, didn’t include Tech in his Top 26 or in his 10 teams to watch.

Speaking of Lawal (well, we were a while ago): NBAdraft.net now has him going No. 23 to Sacramento. (It has Jeff Teague, the Wake Forest guard, going No. 19 to the Hawks.) The same site has Favors going No. 4 overall in the 2010 draft, with Wake’s Al-Farouq Aminu, formerly of Norcross High, going No. 6.

OK, back to the Hawks

Having watched Game 1 of Round 2, Gregg Doyel of CBSsports.com believes Cleveland will win in “four games, five at the absolute most.” And John Schuhmann of NBA.com made a big deal of LeBron James drawing a fast-break charge from Joe Johnson on Tuesday. (And it was a big deal.)

Of ESPN.com’s 10 NBA analysts, not one sees the Hawks winning the series or even inducing a Game 7. (Only J.A. Adande and Tim Legler see it going six.) Of more than 8,100 voters in an ESPN poll, 92 percent figure the Cavs will take the Hawks.

In a detailed analysis, David Thorpe of Scouts Inc. believes the Hawks “still have some growing up to do” but thinks they can take Cleveland to six games. And Elias Sports Bureau reports that the Hawks’ 27-point loss Tuesday matched the largest margin of defeat in Game 1 of a conference semi in the past nine years. Ouch, babe.

Braves = Spinal Tap?

In this week’s power ratings, Larry Dobrow of CBSsports.com puts the Braves 15th among the 30 big-league teams, and then he really gets going. He claims Bobby Cox shouldn’t have benched Kelly Johnson for “the inferior-in-every-way-that-matters-and-some-that-don’t Omar Infante.” And then this: “Left field for the Braves = quarterback for the Vikings = drummer for Spinal Tap.”

Tap-related question for discussion: Which is more mobile — Garret Anderson playing left field or Stonehenge?

130 comments Add your comment

GetOverIt

May 7th, 2009
9:06 am

Hopefully this will not get turned into a childish Tech-UGA academic argument but as a Tech fan, I have to say Congrats to the UGA athletics programs and their success this past year. To have the football team lead the way (ahead of Vanderbilt) is quite and accomplishment. And Jeers to the Jackets basketball team. Is there any more evidence that some new blood is needed?

anotherdawg

May 7th, 2009
9:10 am

Just curious where all the tech fans are now? I’m not talking about all Tech fans, just the ones who ALWAYS have some smart-alect remarks on the UGA blogs about UGA players are dumb, or thugs, or some other crap. Interesting that UGA’s scores were the highest in the SEC.

GTMike

May 7th, 2009
9:16 am

The NCAA stuff is far less about academics and far more about transfers, guys going early to the NBA, etc. However, it is still a black eye for GT. Tell me again why Hewitt is still there? Oh, that’s right, a $7 MM buy-out, sheesh! If the government can intervene in things like the AIG bonuses as being unfair, how ’bout them intervening and voiding Hewitt’s contract as unfair?

Good luck CPH

May 7th, 2009
9:24 am

Best-case scenario, Gani stays for another year, we win 20 games, and make to the second round of the NCAA’s. After that, then what? At least two (probably more) guys will leave – the cupboard will be bare again and the APR will take more hits (graduation rate being the key to the APR).

I’d love to see CPH turn it around, but I just don’t see it happening.

With that said, good luck (you’re going to need it).

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 7th, 2009
9:25 am

Phewitt is the worse coach in the NCAA men and women sports. Where’s the Greyhound?!?

Mark Bradley

May 7th, 2009
9:30 am

If I had to guess — and I don’t, but I will — I’d say Gani Lawal is gone.

Dawg Gone

May 7th, 2009
9:35 am

Hewitt’s got to go. No more of his bnll5hit about stringent academics holding the team back. No more should he be given a pass on getting and keeping STUDENT-athletes at GA Tech. He and his “program” have embarassed Tech and her fans for long enough.

Dawg Gone

May 7th, 2009
9:36 am

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GT Girl

May 7th, 2009
9:52 am

Why focus on the negative? How about the fact that 7 of Georgia Tech’s teams scored perfect on the NCAA Academic Progress Report.

RamblinWreck

May 7th, 2009
9:59 am

“Succeeding” at U[sic]GA is as trivial as a characterizing a monomial. First, your “competing” against a U[sic]GA student is orders of magnitude easier than that of a Tech student. Second, it is a well-known fact that U[sic]GA has relaxed its curriculum for athletes (to be fair this is practiced everywhere, including Tech, but with the the Jan Kemps and Jim Harricks of the world, this is incomparable). Three, U[sic]GA has joke programs that allow athletes to slack (e.g. sports management, physical education, etc.), whereas Tech athletes only have management (and perhaps psychology) in which most mgmt students are dual degree students joint with engineering.

And yes, Hewitt HHHHAS to go…

corkylikesbeer

May 7th, 2009
10:03 am

Very simple GT Girl..since Football and Basketball pays for the other sports!

Marcus

May 7th, 2009
10:28 am

MB,
for the Hawks and whatever deficiencies exist, what position and what player (name, please) do you think would be the most-likely selection, givne our draft position and who has declared early?
I squeezed Sekou and he thought PG or a big, but no name (smile). I guess I didn’t press hard enough (LOL).

Voice of Reason

May 7th, 2009
10:29 am

and the excuses begin. I love how all you Tech folks constantly talk about how much “smarter” your football players are than UGA’s and how you guys don’t just bring in athletes to use your program to get to the next level. hahahahaha! I wouldn’t even bring this up, but I have been listening to this nonsense for way too long. I guess you all can get over yourselves now.

Oh, and is just for Saint Simons…

976-957!!!! hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha

DirtyDawg

May 7th, 2009
10:30 am

Hey ramblinwreck, just tell me, with all your tough academic requirements, combined with your failures as reported on the BB program, just when have any of your ‘athletes’ been declared academically ineligible?..while they were still students, that is. Point is, you go on about how tough it is and how superior your athletes have to be and you end up with sub-standard performance yet nobody is penalized with suspension. Happened a few years back when it was determined, after the fact, that you had allowed folks to play when they shouldn’t have…’my bad’, was about all we heard from that (you didn’t forfeit any of the GA games, did you?). You backed into the NC in ‘90 by winning a Citrus Bowl…your hero O’Leary won games but didn’t graduate anybody, yet nobody of significance ever lost their eligibility due to academics over there (by the way, has George ever apologized to Tech for that resume fiasco? He sure did to everybody else.). My question is, how come if it’s so tough and since you have ‘episodes’ like this latest one, ‘everybody keeps playing’? We already know the answer, your administrators compromise and rationalize in order to win games – gee, what a novel idea – and/or you’ve got people that do their work for them at critical times. So don’t try to lecture us on just how tough you’ve got it. You’re in it for the braggin’ rights just like everybody else.

Ray Easterlin

May 7th, 2009
10:39 am

I wrote about this several times this past basketball season. Most ACC teams do well on the APR criteria. Naturally, we do not and it again a reflection on the horrible coach. He cannot coach and he recruits kids that do not belong at Tech. I pray the new school president fires this lousy coach. Naturally Hewitt faults the system versus taking responsibility. Typical Hewitt.

Mark Bradley

May 7th, 2009
10:46 am

Marcus, a lot depends on whether the Hawks think they can keep Mike Bibby. If they can’t, they’ll need a point guard. If they can, then they can look elsewhere.

And if you’re looking for a point guard, Eric Maynor of Virginia Commonwealth might just fit.

OhReally???

May 7th, 2009
10:46 am

RamblinWreck, are you a fine product of GT’s so-called rigorous academics? If so then I am puzzled since you seem to lack a grasp of basic English grammar. Most 5th graders know the difference between “your” and “you’re” (btw this is a contraction of “you are”). Once and for all, can you Dawg Haters give up the tired and inaccurate “academic superiority” ruse? Yes GT is a fine academic institution as is UGA. But the football and basketball athletes at GT are given favorable admission requirements just like the athletes on other campuses. So please stop pretending. And yes look at the majors and over 90% of these athletes are management majors, not engineering students. If I am wrong, then please explain the admission and continued eligibility of the likes of Sammy Drummer (illiterate), Tyrone Sorrels (550 SAT score), Stephon Marbury (”I choose Georgia Tech University”), Joe Burns/Smokin’ Joe Hamilton/Kelly Campbell/etc (amongst the group of 18 key performers for GT teams that resulted in NCAA sanctions for academic improprieties – funny how this “oversight” impacted the academics of so many key performers). I could go on and on but you get the point.

And as for the general student body, the daughter of one of my best friends is a student at GT ONLY because this life long Georgia fan was denied admission by UGA. It broke her (and her father’s) heart but she has moved on and is doing great at GT. She is not the only one.

GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!

RAMBLE ON!!!

May 7th, 2009
10:56 am

Voice of Reason, this is Basketball not Football. Shall I explain the difference?

We can start with the shape and size of the ball. Once you get that down, we can move to the amount of players on each teams. Then the rules the NCAA enforces for each sport (that might be a bit over your head though).

But, I’m just glad this will be Phewits last season. He’ll resign somewhere in Feb., when it’s clear that another ACC losing season is in the books.

The good news is, we’ll still sleep walk through another win over the fleabags.

Volman

May 7th, 2009
11:10 am

hey “ohreally”. I actually was accepted by UGAg and decided to go to Georgia Tech because it is LEAPS AND BOUNDS ahead of UGAy. You know it, the world knows it.

I have one question for you if you want to talk how good UGAy’s academics are:

How many points in a three point basket?

Jack G.

May 7th, 2009
11:16 am

There are some things thast need to be done simply because they are the right things to do.
Fireing CPH is the right thing to do. Both factually and Morally.
The man is a millstone around GT’s neck.
So GT screwed up with CPH contract. correct the mistake and move on. It “aint” gonna get cheaper with time.
If DRAD cant see this, maybe its time for him to move on.
In addition to that, I bet a good lawyer can find an out in that contract somewhere.

GT Girl

May 7th, 2009
11:20 am

corkylikesbeer…It doesn’t matter what sports make money, it’s the fact that these students worked hard and deserve recognition. Always pointing out the negative is not the way to go. Give them the credit they deserve.

AndyC

May 7th, 2009
11:20 am

I don’t really see the point of GT signing Favors and then have him leave after one year. Unless, Tech is good enough to make a run at a national championship which, correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t think anyone thinks they will be that good. I guess this is an issue related more to college basketball in general rather than Tech specifically but I really don’t understand the hype. I also don’t understand why Favors would choose to go to Tech when, I assume, he could have gone to UNC or another school that has a legit shot at winning a championship. I guess it’s because of playing time, which only shows that Favors is only interested in showcasing his skills for NBA scouts so he can go higher in the draft.

wreckmaniac

May 7th, 2009
11:22 am

This is not a UGA vs Tech topic. Its clear that Hewitt has failed in all reasonable means of evaluation over the past 5 years.

Mark Bradley

May 7th, 2009
11:23 am

I’ve seen Paul Hewitt’s contract. I didn’t see an out in there. (I’m not a lawyer, but I was once accepted to law school. OK, so that was 33 years ago. And I didn’t go. But still …)

SlimG

May 7th, 2009
11:34 am

Look, these kids go to school to play ball period. Most don’t even attend classes. It’s that way at most institutions nationwide. They generate revenue and hope to play professionally. If that doesn’t work out, they vote for Obama and file for govt. assistance.

jabster

May 7th, 2009
11:34 am

Just remember, when it comes to academic standards, you can’t fall off the floor.

gdawginkalamazoo

May 7th, 2009
11:37 am

Gt girl, I have to agree. Why always focus on the negative, there are plenty of athletes that do the required work, do it well, and get their degrees to prepare for life after their chosen sport.

I do have to laugh at the “well all Tech athletes are engineering students” as the reason they don’t pass. Both Tech & UGA have athlete designated programs as does every single D1 school. Don’t for a minute crutch the subject at Tech that the courses are naturally tougher therefore they can’t make the grade. It is purely a lack of effort on somebody’s part (athlete or caretakers) that leads to this ranking.

Don’t worry about Favors sticking around for a soph year. He will be a bright star in a dim galaxy, bid his time and be gone.

pensacola dawg

May 7th, 2009
11:37 am

Same old same old, Ramblin on, get your head out of uranis!

gtfan

May 7th, 2009
11:40 am

hey oh really…

a few things_

- anybody who has to preface an arguement by pointing out a typo has no ammunition. talk about petty.

-your collection of tech ’student athletes’ while valid comes from a period of almost 30 years. if we did the same for uga, it would amass double that number in less than 5 years. unlike uga, gt can’t hide its student athletes in courses like basket weaving, pe, remedial english and courses taught by jim harrick jr.

-any school that has had a professor unethically supply answers to a nationalized test for its pharmacy students should stay out of any debate on scholastics.

-dont you think you should go back to your own blog an hope that uga doesnt exceed their arrest record from last year? yes gt has had is share of arrests however our arrest nummber total in 20 years still doesnt beat 10 in a single year. matter of fact, i am willing to wager a beer that the total arrests under the reverend richt era alone is more than the entire arrest record in gt’s last 50 years. sheeeeesh.

go baaaaaaaah to your blog their lil goat. go bahhhhhhhhh k

as far as phew goes…..

anybody still think phew is a fine rep for gt? i dont!

anybody think he is a great recruiter? i dont.

have we had any players graduate in the last 4 years? thank god for mario west.

all we need now is a recruiting violation to complete the trifecta.

here is hoping the braineless at the least put in a clause about academics in phew’s contract.

maybe this will be the silver lining in this cloud on our program.

phew needs to man up and resign.

fat chance.

Mark Bradley

May 7th, 2009
11:41 am

Let’s recall that there was a time when players didn’t have to go to college on one-and-dones. LeBron didn’t. Garnett didn’t. Kobe didn’t. Tracy McGrady didn’t. Darius Miles didn’t. Josh Smith didn’t. Blame the NBA for its age-limit rule. Don’t blame the players.

Mike Joseph

May 7th, 2009
11:42 am

The basketball program is an embarrassment to Georgia Tech. This used to be a program that battled for ACC championships and graduated its players. I think this is what happens when you have an AD that only worries about football and not the whole athletic program.

PaulWinchester

May 7th, 2009
11:42 am

I know that deep down inside the Cavs KNOW in their hearts that the Atlanta Hawks are a much better TEAM than the Cavs and that the Hawks have vastly superior talent than the Cavs. The Cavs players know it; Mike Brown knows it and I believe the Cavs players are shaking, scared to death, knowing that if the Hawks play up to their potential, the Hawks will blow out the Cavs and end the series in five games. The Cavs players know it, THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THE HAWKS PLAYERS DONT KNOW IT YET, and that is the reason for me writing this blog to inform the Hawks players that this series is over already, if you believe that, and go out there and blow the Cavs out of the building tonight. All you have to do is go back to the Boston series from last year; watch those tapes if they’re available to you, and then replicate that performance and direct it toward the Cavs. I guarantee the Hawks will win this series with the Caviliers. As I said yesterday, the Cavs are a 1-man band with King LaBron. Thats all the Cavs have really. We have players on our team: Big “Al” Horford, Flip Murray (3pt specialist), Captain Joe Johnson (future hall of famer); Josh “Smoove” Smith; Mike Bibby (championship calibre point guard who is proven and battle tested) and of course Starvin Marvin Williams. Folks, what we have are real, developing players who are going to be all-stars real soon. I think the Cavs know they were lucky to win game one at the infamous Q. The Hawks can win four straight and end this series once and for all. Take control of the series tonight, put in Flip Murray (let him flip the switch) and turn out the lights on the Cavs.

buckhead lenny

May 7th, 2009
11:44 am

how come we can’t get any mark price’s or even the tall goofy red head that help lead us to the national championship or the jon barry’s or the the other barry’s- I can’t remember the last time i saw a white kid play for hewitt or even sit on the bench- now i hear this- you can’t tell me there are not white kids that have good grades or even black kids that have good grades that can play baskeball but- when you are the worst in the acc and you are arguably duke and yourself the epitome of academecs in the acc wonder what’s going on??- can we not just incorporate black and white like bobby cremins and coach k does at duke? seems like a necessity to me-

Mark Bradley

May 7th, 2009
11:45 am

I don’t believe the Cavs consider themselves inferior to the Hawks. They won 19 more games.

mts315

May 7th, 2009
11:48 am

The point is that the APR is based on several factors, graduation rates, transfers, kids leaving early for the pro’s, difficulty of the school. GT basketball in recent years has seen the results of transfers, early entry in the draft, and academic issues. I would be willing to bet that with out the kids leaving early GT would easily pass the APR. In the past 2 seasons we have had several kids leave for the NBA and without those the APR would look better. The NCAA needs to take out kids that get drafted to the pros from the APR or at lease give some consideration for this. As long as the NBA is taking kids after their freshman year this will continue to be a problem.

James

May 7th, 2009
12:06 pm

This is not about Tech and Georgia. It is about a proud academic history at Georgia Tech, and athletic programs that are held to the same standard as other students. It is a coach’s duty to his student athletes to have their first focus be academic achievement. The Tech basketball program has been on a downhill slide for 5 years, this is just another example of a coach doesn’t seem to care if the kids win, on the court, or in school. We need a coach that does.

NCBravesFan

May 7th, 2009
12:10 pm

Mark – I think that Garrett is probably a little more mobile than Stonehenge, but can I have the right to change my mind later?

Speaking of which, has Stonehenge signed yet or is he still a FA? :P

Gummy Bears...Bouncing here and there and everywhere....THEY ARE THE GUMMY BEARS!!!!

May 7th, 2009
12:12 pm

Stonehenge was very important in the movie Halloween 3 The Season of the Witch.

Left to Right

May 7th, 2009
12:14 pm

Have to say, equating Brave’s left fielders with Spinal Tap’s drummers is one of those things that’s “funny ’cause its true.”

Also, mts315, players transferring or leaving early do not negatively affect a school’s rating as long as he or she leaves in good academic standing. Of course, if they leave in a state of less than good academic standing, it hurts a school’s rating. And I don’t want to hear GT fans say their players face more stringent academic standards, particulary given that Tech has football players designing outhouses.

Big Al

May 7th, 2009
12:14 pm

gtfan: it’s “argument”, not “arguement”, dumb@ss. And unlike you nerds, i don’t waste my time on a Maggot blog. However, this article is also about my Atlanta Hawks and Atlanta Braves, in case you didn’t notice.
Number 1 in academics in the SEC in football, tied for #1 nationally for top 25 teams last year. Looks like my Dawgs have been hunkering down in the library!

Beauski

May 7th, 2009
12:15 pm

Wreckmaniac is the only person on here that has it right. This is NOT a UGA/GT issue. It’s difficult to compare the athlete’s majors at the schools because one is primarily an engineering school and the other is primarily a liberal arts school. UGA grads don’t work for NASA or the Harris Corporation, just like Tech grads don’t write in the Boston Globe or New York Times or become executives of companies. Apples and Oranges.

I’m a huge UGA fan and even I realize that Hewitt should resign and try to be an assistant coach in the NBA; where academics are not part of the equation. UGA fans are used to these types of basketball coaches. (See: Jim Harrick) Because he is definitely not including them in his coaching formula at Tech. What kind of quote is that, “our academics are in the best shape since I’ve been here?” Then this comes out! He’s gotta go and soon.

snapshot

May 7th, 2009
12:30 pm

mutt fans should not even comment on this. They know why or should know.

gtfan

May 7th, 2009
12:32 pm

like i said big al….

all the trash i tossed your way about uga and that is the best you could come up with?

my grandmother always told me that if somebody makes a claim and you are silent than you must agree. the truth hurts doesnt it!

btw, me thinks your wife calls you ‘little’ al. maybe that is why she ‘titters’ when she mentions your name. next time i see her ill ask. dumb@ass!

45-42 tiarb

Marcus

May 7th, 2009
12:43 pm

MB,
thanx for the info. I like VCU PG Eric Maynor as well. If not him, then Villanova’s Scotty Reynolds.

Mark Bradley

May 7th, 2009
12:50 pm

NC, I believe Stonehenge is, as they say, weighing its options.

Scottie Reynolds is on the small side, Marcus. Good player, though.

Hey gtfan

May 7th, 2009
12:54 pm

Clean up on aisle 4, get back to work you worthless piece of trash!

LOL

May 7th, 2009
12:56 pm

“We can start with the shape and size of the ball. Once you get that down, we can move to the amount of players on each teams. Then the rules the NCAA enforces for each sport (that might be a bit over your head though). ”

I guess you must be one of the professors teaching your basketball team. How is that whole shape of the ball thing going with those bunch of geniuses?

I know, throw Harrick Jr. out there, but remember you had O’Liar!

No Execs?

May 7th, 2009
12:57 pm

Yes, most GT athletes are managment majors, but at the #22 business school in the country. UGAy’s? 55. The APR is completely flawed because of this. There’s just no comparing the two institutions based solely on passing kids through. Go back and check entrance SAT scores- it puts every single athlete on an even playing field. #1? Oh yeah, that was GT football (of public universities). And to Beauski, saying GT grads don’t become company execs is about the most retarded statement I’ve ever heard. Walmart’s pretty big, right?

STUCK IN SC

May 7th, 2009
12:58 pm

Congrats on the report card from the NCAA! All you arrogant GT people are running for cover and making excuses as to why this could happen at such an outstanding Technical college. LMAO!

Reality Check

May 7th, 2009
1:00 pm

GT fan, real petty. The point is that that your basketball players are not making the grade. This is a fact!!!! Two scholarships were taken away. Second fact is that I know or knew of several football players that went to Georgia Tech and they would not have gotten in either GT or UGA without being football players. This is common at UGA, GT, UF or any other school that cares about its sports programs. Yes GT has a topflight engineering program so be proud. However, mathematics and physics are not the only signs of intelligence so get over the fact the UGA and other schools that offer a more rounded curriculum can also boast of some of the brightest minds in our country.

BTW, UGA may have had a lousy basketball coach at least he had the integrity to ensure they went to class.