The Braves in 2009: Is a wild card such a wild notion?

Here’s where I say something and you tell me how smart I am. (Or, as is more often the case, how smart I’m not.) I’m saying the Braves will win 89 games and claim the National League’s wild card. I’m saying they’ll finish second to the Mets. In sum, I’m saying better days are at hand.

I know, I know. I thought the same last spring and was in egregious error. But last spring I’d bought into the Braves’ message of hope. This time I’m operating on something closer to faith.

I’m not banking on 40-year-old pitchers to call back the years. I’m banking on Derek Lowe and Javier Vazquez to do what they always do. I’m banking on Jordan Schafer and Tommy Hanson to provide the sort of lift that went missing in 2008. I’m banking on Jeff Francoeur to hit .285.

I’m banking on the bullpen to be quite good. I’m banking on Kelly Johnson’s second-half surge to have been more than a mirage. I’m banking on Yunel Escobar showing he can keep his head and play to his gifts. I’m banking on Casey Kotchman to be better than we Atlantans have yet seen.

I’m banking on Kenshin Kawakami to win a dozen games. I’m banking on Chipper Jones to get hurt no more than twice, neither time seriously. I’m banking on Brian McCann to win the MVP.

I know, I know. These haven’t been the best of times for anybody doing any sort of banking, but I like what Frank Wren did over the winter and I like the way his team has performed in the spring. I sense a new spirit around these Braves, a keener edge.

Almost all the old faces are gone. Tom Glavine isn’t seen as anything more than a seat-warmer for Hanson, whereas last season he was regarded as a heart-of-the-rotation guy. And if you have to build your batting order around an older guy, it helps to know that guy just won a batting title. And the best news of all: Mike Hampton is someone else’s concern. Sorry, there are no polls available at the moment.

I like the Braves to win 89 and the wild card — yes, it took 90 victories to do the deed each of the past two seasons, but 89 was the required number in 2005 and 2006 — because I see the Phillies as primed for a plunge. I don’t see that rotation holding up. The Mets are another matter. The Mets are going to be really good. (K-Rod and Putz in the ‘pen, no more Willie Randolph in the dugout, no more icky Shea Stadium).

But the belief here is that the Braves will themselves be stout enough to play into October. Stout enough to win the Series? Probably not. But once you get there … it’s a crapshoot, right?

I’m guessing y’all have some beliefs of your own, and I’d be obliged if you’d share them. And come October I’ll look back on this little post and see who knew what way back when. Deal?

169 comments Add your comment

Mark Bradley

April 2nd, 2009
10:54 am

I did see Sports Illustrated, DirtyDawg. And I remember Wake Forest being in SI’s Final Four. I make a multitude of mistakes, but that’s one I avoided. (Indeed, I had Wake losing in Round 1, and it obliged.)

And Ryan, I think the Phils are going to come down with post-Series blahs. They’re utterly reliant on Cole Hamels, and he has already having twinges. And they did lose Burrell.

Scout

April 2nd, 2009
10:58 am

ProfFish- let me try an answer some of these for you.

1. No. He will have to have a career year by astronomical proportions to do that. So far his career highs for power are 12/68 (not in same year). He’s young though and doesn’t strike out a lot, hardly ever.

2. You get .280/20/90 out of KJ then he’s given you a solid year.

3. Realisically no, to make it to the post season he’ll have to. Might need to schedule him off days to get ready for the big series.

4. Most likely. You need 30/100 minimum from LF. Asking each of them to give you 15/50 should not be too much to ask.

5. In the field he should be ok. At the plate I would look for a hotter first half than second. Think 04 when Jeff came up. When they start learning how to pitch him …then again he might ball out like Longoria.

6. We’ll have to wait and see. If he doesn’t don’t expect to see him in a Braves uniform next year. If he does then look for him to sign a 5 year deal.

7. Workhorses on the mound are good but I need studs up there too. If Derrick Lowe is your ace, your staff isn’t that good. He’s a good pitcher but he’s no ace. Other aces to consider: Brandon Webb, Roy Oswalt, Tim Lincecum, Johan Santana, Cole Hamels, CC, Beckett. He needs to have a year like 02 to be considered an ace (21-8, 2.72 ERA) not a year like he’s had in the last 5. Vasquez is a career .500 pitcher, nuff said.

8. Not always true.

The Braves are solid behind the plate and at SS. Yunel has to give you .290/20-25/90-100. Another question to think about. Chipper in the 3 McCann in the 4. Brian protects Chipper, who protects Brian. Who bats 5th and protects him? The Braves are most likely trying to keep afloat till Heyward and Freeman are ready. To have Schaeffer, hopefully Francouer, McCann, Heyward, Freeman, hopefully a producing Yunel and KJ…now you’re talking about nice mix of righties, lefties, veterans and young studs. Look for them to keep drafting pitching and power.

All for now.

Ryan

April 2nd, 2009
10:59 am

I acknowledge the loss of Burrell. I just think he’s easily replaceable and philly has the ingredients for another run. Fantastic leadoff hitter, power behind him, good gloves and an ace to lean on. You’re a sharp guy you should know the Mets tank at the end of year and hand the division away even with a stud like Santana atop the rotation.

Freshmaker

April 2nd, 2009
11:00 am

The problem is they don’t have anyone after Hamels, Ryan. Their offense is very impressive, but they don’t have the rotation, on paper at least, to be all that great. Who knows, though. I’ll take the Braves rotation over just about anyone else’s in the NL, with the exception of the Cubs and the Diamondbacks.

Mark Bradley

April 2nd, 2009
11:02 am

I think the Mets will be different this time. Citi Field and all that. After all, Citi doesn’t make bad investments, does it?

Braindawg

April 2nd, 2009
11:10 am

Here we go baseball fans, bottom of the 9th, the “too many yrs to remember” vet., Mark “baseball” Bradley steps to the plate. Heres the wind and the pitch, he swings and misses, strike one. Next pitch, he swings….. and misses. Wow this baseball version of Hugh Heffner, still around after many years in the bizz, has one more pitch to prove he can predict a winner. Many people remember his predictions of the past… most recently UGA winning the National Championship…not coming to pass. But better yet passing away, now watch with little hope of him even making contact, yet he has one more pitch/prediction… and here goes, the wind up and the pitch, here it comes…swung on.. he hit it, and not just a “chopper to chipper”, a high drive, deep center field, way back, this ball is….
Well Braves fans we’ll have to wait til the end of the season to see what happens with MB prediction for the Bravos. But rest asured, we have a better team than last year, we will be in it for the long haul, and we should provide this city with something to cheer about. And after last year thats all we can ask for.
On a final note on my post today I just want to say how much I will miss Skip Carey this year. I still have that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach, when thinking of Braves baseball without Skip. We all miss you Skip, and your family is still in my prayers.
Now lets get ready to play ball!

optimizum

April 2nd, 2009
11:10 am

win 90 and finish 2nd and a wild card spot, mccann’s the man but I don’t see a catcher winning mvp. I wanna see what wren and co. will do if there’s that shot of dealing at the deadline for what could put the braves over the top or standing pat. just get in the playoffs then anything can happen, look at st.louis in what 2006, like 83 wins and won it all.

Kunta Plenty

April 2nd, 2009
11:12 am

Unless they have suddenly learned to play the game “the right way”, I believe the Braves will be finish closer to the bottom of the division than the top.

Looking back at last year, aside from the flukish rash of injuries suffered by the pitching staff and Frenchy’s fall from grace, the most disappointing thing about the Braves was their inability (or unwillingness) to do “the little things” that it takes to win baseball games.

I’m talking about consistently making routine plays plays in the field, being smart on the basepaths, and moving runners up at the plate.

To be blunt, in terms of baseball fundamentals, the Braves of 2008 were shockingly unsound. As far as I’m concerned, these shortcomings reflected upon Bobby Cox and his coaching staff as much as any strategic blunders that may have been made during the course of the season.

When you can longer “out-talent” the opposition, you must do “the little things” on a daily/nightly basis to give yourself a chance. Whether or not these olds dogs are capable of learning any new tricks remains to be seen.

PMC

April 2nd, 2009
11:26 am

85 would not be a bad number for this team. It’s going to be a REALLY tall order to win 90.

Next year with Hudson, Hanson, Jurrjens, Lowe, Kawakami etc that’s a much better staff to go to battle with.

This is really a team set to compete this year but really playing for 2010 and 2011 when they can make deep playoff runs.

85 wins and pushing the guys that win it would be a big accomplishment for this team though Wren has done an excellent job giving them the opportunity to compete hard this year.

Hip Hopcracy

April 2nd, 2009
11:28 am

Let’s not forget – Tim Hudson will probably be joining the team by the end of the summer, just in time for a whiz-bang pennant race. To know that we have that caliber of pitching waiting in the wings has to improve our chances of picking up a wild card berth in the playoffs.

Beldar

April 2nd, 2009
11:38 am

I believe the Braves will fare better than last year, but don’t plan on them being in the playoffs. There is no power and the bullpen is, as always, suspect.

Father of 5

April 2nd, 2009
11:41 am

Offense reality — Braves have no power or speed. Rookies at leadoff do not historically fare very well. Wren says the team will hit a lot of doubles — good luck with that. I’d trade offensive lineups with a dozen other teams without hesitation, and that’s not a good sign.

Pitching reality — the key to the game. Three teams IN THE DIVISION have better starting/bullpen pitching. Lowe is solid, but he has not been an ACE for years (what is Freshmaker smoking?). Nobody but Hanson could put fear in the minds of opposing hitters. We had one dominant pitcher, who could have made the 5-8 game difference that might have squeaked us into wildcard contention (even without the first month or two), but he’s in Boston now.

Independent perspective — a situational lefthanded reliever just turned down two years and millions more guaranteed dollars in a crumbling economy to play for the Dodgers because he is so sure that the Braves will be bottom feeder for years. Hanson, Shaeffer and Heyward might change that in a few years, but for now you need to drive north to have any real hope of watching winning baseball.

Eddie K

April 2nd, 2009
11:43 am

I can’t help but get the same excitement with this Braves team as I did with the Braves of the early ’90’s when an influx of young talent and a couple of wiley veterans brought a lot of energy to the club. This team has potential to provide a lot of fun moments during this season, and I can only hope that Hanson provides the same lift for the Braves later this season as Price did for Tampa last season.

Mark Bradley

April 2nd, 2009
11:46 am

David Price = Tommy Hanson. Good comparison, Eddie.

BravesFan79

April 2nd, 2009
11:48 am

Keepin it Real: they do not have the overall talent,speed and power to sustain themselves against the Mets,Phillies,Cards,Cubs,Brewers,Diamondbacks,Dodgers(Marlins???)

Dodgers (minus Lowe), Marlins, BREWERS (minus CC and other SP)? Cards, Dbacks…?
I see your keeping it real alright…. REAL DUMB!! You should be featured on Dave Chappell… “when keepin it real goes wrong!”

Whopper Dawg

April 2nd, 2009
11:53 am

Bradley, that is a lot of banking and not much cash. Third or fourth, best case.

Mark Bradley

April 2nd, 2009
11:54 am

That’s the nice thing about predictions, Whopper — no cash is required on the front end. And since I never bet, none is collected on the back end, either.

Yaramah

April 2nd, 2009
11:56 am

Well, I’ll be happy with anything above 85 wins this year. Whilst that isn’t playoff bound, I think this year will be good rebound with next year being our best in a long time (Hudson back and Tommy Hanson ready to breakout in his first full season). It’s the offense that worries me, can they consistently score enough runs, or will they be streaky.

Go Braves!

gobraves

April 2nd, 2009
12:07 pm

I want to believe, but after reading that story and realizing it was written by the guy who said Georgia was calling Florida out with their win at LSU this past year, I’m not exactly holding my breath.

Jay

April 2nd, 2009
12:10 pm

You are a blind homer. I am a huge Braves fan and I dont see them making it past the Phillies and Mets in the East. We don’t have a dominant #1 starter and I dont feel that good about trusting an old Lowe to carry the torch. Our bullpen arms have bad injury history and we won’t be surprised if one of Gonzo, Soriano or Moylan gets hurt. We dont have any power in our lineup…our top hr hitter might break 25 homers. We won’t make the playoffs unless we add a power bat or a power pitcher. Hanson can be that power pitcher, but what about the bat? Until then, I predict 82-80, third place.

Rhett

April 2nd, 2009
12:15 pm

The Braves definitely have a shot at depemption with the great squad they have leaving Spring Training. If they can capitalize, then they will win. Unfortunately, they have not shown the ability to do so in recent years. As a Braves fan, I hope that stops this year!

jmart1951

April 2nd, 2009
12:15 pm

MB, When you take a “leap of faith” don’t pull up short. My faith is strong enough to predict that the Braves will win 92 and the Division. This year’s team is a plethora of young players ready to have “break out” years to establish themselves as true professional ball players. It might not be “91″ but it will have some of the same feel.

Mark Bradley

April 2nd, 2009
12:16 pm

Yaramah, I salute your usage of “whilst.”

Terry

April 2nd, 2009
12:20 pm

Brian McCann MVP? Believe me, I’m a big fan of his work but he is still far from that calliber. The very few other catchers that have won MVP have had really strong offensive numbers. Brian’s stats are good and compared to other catchers I’d say we have one the best in the game but please don’t put that kind of hope on our second best player.

Anders

April 2nd, 2009
12:21 pm

Mark- I’m usually over on DOB’s blog but I had to come here when I saw your article. Right up front I’ll tell you I’m a Mets fan. Now, I have no issue with your McCann prediction. He’s a really good player and on the edge of greatness if catching doesn’t destroy his hands and knees. But how can you say the Braves bullpen is up to snuff? Look at Gonzo’s second half numbers last year. His ERA and WHIP both skyrocketed. September was his worst month and now he’s throwing below his normal speed? These are all red alert signs to me worth watching. Soriano is a hypochondriac. Has he ever once said he feels 100% – ever? The guy will be in and out of the pen all season long. So the back of the bullpen is terribly suspect. They have no lefty in the pen that’s been effective this spring. You may want to take a look at some of the lefthanded bats in the division when considering this.

All in all, I think the Braves will be better than last year, not much of a leap there – but WC? The only way that happens is if every star aligns perfectly for them which is highly unlikely imo.

Big Tex Nate

April 2nd, 2009
12:22 pm

It seems to me that there is one factor that everyone is overlooking. (Jair Jurgens) He had an unbelievable rookie year, and I don’t see any sophmore woes in his future. This is going to be the key to an absolute dominate year. The question marks will remain on the rest of the rotation, but so will everyone’s focus. I think Jair is a 16 game winner at least, and will anchor the starting rotation. If Hanson comes in mid season and we can get a little extra help from one of the other young pitchers like Logan, then I foresee a Young Guns 2 doming into play. Not to mention that Hudson will be back just in time to lead the team through the playoffs. So early predictions here is a 95 win season, and the Braves shock the world by winning the series over the Yanks in 7 insane games. Also, I know Chipper is getting old, but after last years batting title I think he will lead the team as the MVP.

John

April 2nd, 2009
12:22 pm

A catcher winning the MVP in the NL? Nah. I don’t think Mac has a chance. The last time a NL catcher won was in 72′ (Bench).

AdirondackDave

April 2nd, 2009
12:27 pm

However deserving Mac is, he’ll likely never win the MVP. He will miss too many games to put up numbers to compete with Albert. Also, if the Braves make the playoffs, Chipper will surely get some votes too, maybe more than Mac. I expect both to have fine years again though. I’ll settle for makes the playoffs and both on the all-star team again.

ndadome

April 2nd, 2009
12:30 pm

Mr. Bradley, well done, as usaual. I always enjoy your columns, whether I agree or not. And I like the fact that you don’t just throw out your opinion and leave. .you actually come back with additional info or replies to the bloggers. There is at least one “evening drive” talk show host who could learn a lot from you. . .that is, except for the fact that he already knows everything. Good job, sir.

bfred

April 2nd, 2009
12:35 pm

I’m still concerned about the near-constant injuries to our pitchers. I know the strength and conditioning coach was replaced late last season, but isn’t this a pitching coach issue? We had very few injuries under Mazzone but have been much less fortunate since he left. I think the wild card is in reach if our staff doesn’t break down (never mind suffer serious injuries like we’ve had) but the sheer volume of problems seems too high to be a coincidence and that makes me nervous.

Any unless I’m mistaken, Piazza was the most recent MVP catcher.

polskidawg

April 2nd, 2009
12:35 pm

The Braves will have to win the division to make the playoffs – possible but not probable.

The Wild Card will come from the Central – Cards or Reds. Cubs win the division.

bfred

April 2nd, 2009
12:36 pm

“And unless…” Not “Any” You know what I mean.

Clerks III Please Kevin Smith

April 2nd, 2009
12:41 pm

80 wins more than likely and 3rd place

big dawg

April 2nd, 2009
12:43 pm

MB, this is really scary for me to say, but i actually agree with you…and yes, that is a first! i’m telling ya, there’s nothing like flying under the radar in sports, it gives one a silent sense of determination and that does go along way…i still say our biggest question is with Frenchy. now i know one player doesn’t usually make ya or break ya, but in this case…..

i just hope bobby doesn’t give him too long to see if he can produce. i’m thinking bobby is too old to wait on players and he knows this, so look for him to make a move by the end of may if he is not “GETTIN ER DONE”.

my prediction..4 of the Bravos starters will win 14+ games this year..and we’ll not have to make a trade come july with huddy coming back

Cam

April 2nd, 2009
12:47 pm

The only place that I disagree with you is winning the world series!

Stan

April 2nd, 2009
12:47 pm

I actually agree Mark… I think this team will challenge for a wild card (unfortunately the freespending Yankee Jrs. have too much not to take this division). Some nice moves by Wren despite some missteps with Burnett and Furcal.

But there is still something Wren did that I just can’t get over, and don’t think I can move forward and enjoy the season until someone can explain to me… WHY did he offer Mike Hampton a contract at all? And the part that makes it worse… WHY did he offer Hampton MORE than he offered Smoltz?

I just cannot get my head around either move… it’s keeping me up at night, PLEASE, somebody explain so I can move on.

coach joe

April 2nd, 2009
12:54 pm

Its nice to read positive comments about the Braves. I’m pumped up and I agree that we will have a good season. Tne Phillies are set to fall. Our starting pitching is going to get us to the play-offs.If Glavine or the Japanese Pitcher(can’t spell his name) fall off, we have Hanson and Reyes waiting in the wings.We finally have depth. The big question is the bull-pen but I am excited..(Hanson’s elbow explode?? )The guy hasn’t even got to the majors yet. How can you not be psitive right now- opening night is three days away.. Go Braves.

brewdawg

April 2nd, 2009
12:57 pm

I know it’s a Braves column, but Oliver Purnell and Frank Haith? Really? Haith would be okay, since he’s kind of just getting started in his career, and has done reasonably well at a football school, but Purnell is 56 and hasn’t done too much with Clemson. I mean, Tubby is 58… at least give him a call. I don’t get this search. i really do not. Grant would have been better than all of them.

Salamander

April 2nd, 2009
1:01 pm

Mark,

You do make some bold prediction for the upcoming season – many of which I already (cautiously) bought in to. However, the bullpen scares me… we have some great arms in our relief corp, but we have some injury concerns as well (Soriano tops that list), and I’m not sure how good Gonzalez is going to be this year, or how the LOOGYs brought in by Wren this offseason will fare.

The offense might have question marks, but I like this Braves lineup for the most part, and I think the starting pitching and defense are going to be this teams strengths.

Overall I’d say we win: 80-90 games.

jtb

April 2nd, 2009
1:02 pm

ProfFish and Scout

I think that what the Braves are hoping for regarding the rotation is that even though Derek Lowe isn’t a true ace, the rotation is much deeper than most others, especially the Mets and Phillies. If Francoeur can prove that last year was a fluke then that will take a lot of pressure off of everyone else in the line up. He is very capable of playing 160 games hitting about .280 with 20 HRs and 110 RBIs. The Braves are going to have to rely on stringing hits together and more aggressive base running in order to score runs though because they lack a true power hitter. The bullpen is a huge question mark though. Hopefully Medlin will be a sleeper and maybe be a Paplebon type rookie for us. If nothing else they should be able to compete with any team any night.

rainman

April 2nd, 2009
1:04 pm

You can speculate at every position, but it comes down to two things that will determine if the Braves make the playoffs:

1. The bullpen — and especially the three-headed closing trio of Gonzo, Soriano, and Moylan. If this unit falls apart, we are doomed.
On the other hand, if at least two of them have strong years, we should be OK.

2. 3-4-5 in the BO — There is some pop in almost every bat in the lineup, but the heart of the order needs to supply consistent power.
Francour is the big wild card on the team’s power numbers.

I agree that no one should get over-confidant when it comes to starting pitching, but with Hanson just up the road and Hudson coming back later, I think the Braves have some insurance here.

Mark Bradley

April 2nd, 2009
1:10 pm

I believe the Dodgers had a catcher who won three Most Valuable Player awards. (OK, so they were then based in Brooklyn. But still …)

Mark Bradley

April 2nd, 2009
1:12 pm

Oh, and thanks to BrewDawg for asking: I don’t understand Frank Haith, either. What has he done at Miami that makes anyone think he could win big in the SEC East? He’s an OK coach, nothing more. If that’s the best Georgia can do … well, then there’s not much for a major Dawg hoops upgrade.

Jim

April 2nd, 2009
1:27 pm

Jesus Christ Mark – can’t you just keep anything to yourself and for once in your life not jinx a team that has a chance to go far into their respective seasons? What a buffoon you are. How is it that people who are actually good at their jobs are losing them every day while we have complete idiots like you still working.

JEB

April 2nd, 2009
1:29 pm

Mark,
Your predictions are built on the team being – who they are supposed to be! Not a bad way to predict things either!
We don’t have a lot of power – but if they can be a productive, put the ball in play, high avg., pesky hitting team, then they can cause damage with every team they play, especially if they get past the #1 starters from each team. The bullpen, I beleive is the key. They can be really good or they can be a trouble spot if everyone is not healthy!

Looking forward to the coming years – G Brave’s rotation is extremely in GREAT shape!

Andy

April 2nd, 2009
1:31 pm

I think people are missing the point with the offense and the bullpen. Oh course the success of the bullpen is dictated by the health and/or the effectiveness of Moylan, Soriano and Gonzalez. All teams count on a few key guess at the back end to be healthy and effective. Obviously, history give us more reason to worry, but even with 2 of the 3 healthy and others such as Boyer, Bennett, and Campillo pitching in, they can do a good enough job.
As for the offense. People are concerned about power, but the more pointed complaint is about the lack of doing the “little things.” Not moving runners over or having good situational AB’s throughout the lineup really hampered our run production the last few seasons. In that respect, that is where a pickup like Garret Anderson really comes in handy. He is the consummate pro when it comes to having those type of AB’s. Hopefully he continues that, and guys like Kelly Johnson and Francoeur learn from Anderson and their experience about how to handle the bat in those situations. I think that if we do a better job of manufacturing runs we will be fine offensively, not because we will score an astronomical amount of runs, but simply because we will be better at getting important runs (late game, one-run game scenarios) and better at getting runs off of difficult pitching match ups (like scratching 2 or 3 against a Santana or Hamels). I am hopeful that we will improve in this manner and will be able to be serious contenders in the NL East and hopefully into the playoffs.
GO BRAVES!

Mark Bradley

April 2nd, 2009
1:32 pm

JEB, if there’s a bad way to predict something, I’m confident I’ll find it.

Tech sucks

April 2nd, 2009
1:34 pm

I love what Wren has done this offseason. The Wild Card is a definite possibility. We lack power and the bullpen injuries scare the heck out of me but starting pitching is where it’s at and with Hanson coming up (sooner than later) we are going to be STACKED.

McFann :Ô:

April 2nd, 2009
1:35 pm

McCann for MVP!! But if he has a crummy season, Mr. Bradley, you’re gonna hear from me… :P

Mark Bradley

April 2nd, 2009
1:38 pm

What if B-Mac, like, wins MVP? Will you forget me then, McFann?