Bradley’s Buzz: Shirtless football coaches wild on video!

Tennessee recruiting: The gift that goes on giving

Doubtless you’ve read the rather amazing story by esteemed AJC.com colleague Michael Carvell regarding Tennessee’s pitch to high school juniors. If you haven’t, click the link and do so right now. It’ll open in a new window, so you can come back here when you’re done.

The Vol coaches’ idea of how to mold and influence young minds is rather basic: Rip off your shirt and start screaming. (I know this works for me whenever I want to make a nuanced point with the Bradley offspring.) Tennessee apparently borrowed this tactic from Ole Miss, where chief recruiter Ed Orgeron worked as head coach before getting fired. (The link is to an archived post on The Rant.)

And Ole Miss stole it from Southern Cal, where both Orgeron and Lane Kiffin, who figures to last maybe two seasons as Tennessee’s head coach, were assistants. The Trojans’ bit of lunacy can be viewed on this YouTube video, which was offered on the blog Dr. Saturday. And yes, that’s indeed a shirtless Pete Carroll smack in the midst of the manly flesh.

Here’s a 2005 ESPN.com story from Ivan Maisel, in which Orgeron does not confirm or deny the alleged Oxford Wild Boyz sighting. And here we should point out that Nature Boy Ed managed to win three whole SEC games in three seasons with the Rebels.

As you’ve gathered from the Photoshopped image above (found on the Vol fan site Losers With Socks), this story has inspired all manner of artistic renderings on the blogosphere. The best, by a shadowy Internet presence known as LSUfreek, was splashed on the pro-Gator site Every Day Should Be Saturday. At left is a still, but to get the full effect you must click the photo itself.

Now for the obligatory disclaimer: It’s not entirely clear which Tennessee coaches were shirtless during the staged insanity — insert obligatory Phillip Fulmer joke here — but the imagination runs riot. Monte Kiffin, Lane’s dad and defensive coordinator, just turned 69. Yowser!

The Urban Crier is saving his TOs

You’ll recall that Li’l Kiffy’s most egregious act to date was accusing Florida coach Urban Meyer, erroneously, of cheating. Meyer had kept his own counsel until was he was ornered by Andrew Carter of the Orlando Sentinel at a reception for the BCS champs at the governor’s mansion in Tallahassee. You’ll be shocked to learn that Meyer didn’t find any humor therein.

Given that he answered Georgia’s little end-zone dance by calling two timeouts at the end of a 49-10 game … well, the mind reels at what might transpire when the Wild Boyz play in Gainesville on Sept. 19.

Words never before uttered in tandem: Must-see spring football

The helpful folks at Sporting News Today have tipped us to the spring football games that cannot be missed. (Dave Curtis says Michigan; Matt Hayes says Ole Miss.) Me, I think there’s nothing worth seeing in any spring game. (And I’ve seen a few.) But maybe that’s just me.

OK, enough football. Does Georgia have a basketball team?

Well, yes. And according to Jeff Goodman of FoxSports, the Bulldogs are prepared to offer Jeff Capel $2 million to leave Oklahoma to come coach in Athens. That’s a lot of money — more than twice what the deposed Dennis Felton made — but Goodman addresses the central issue: Why would Capel leave what is clearly a better job?

What about Tech? Does it still play hoops, too?

Well, yes. But not very well, as Tim Crothers notes on the ACC Sports Journal. There’s nothing really new in his article, but he does point out that Paul Hewitt lacked a backup plan when his players, for whatever reasons, have left without completing their eligibility. And next season Derrick Favors arrives. How long do you figure he’ll stick around?

It wouldn’t be a Buzz without a mock draft, would it?

Nope. And here’s a new one from Pat Kirwan of NFL.com. He has Matthew Stafford going No. 4 overall to Seattle — where he’d work with Jim Mora and Greg Knapp, hee hee — and Knowshon Moreno going 28th to Philadelphia. Tech’s Michael Johnson, according to Kirwan, will be the next-to-last pick of Round 1, and with the 24th selection the Falcons will tap defensive end Tyson Jackson of LSU.

83 comments Add your comment

Mac

March 9th, 2009
8:48 am

I once watched a BYU game on TV where Marc Wilson was 4-4 for about 200 yards and four TDs in the first quarter. I pray for that same type of performance by Tebow against Tennessee. Lame Kitten must be buried.

Chris Broe

March 9th, 2009
9:25 am

So you’re saying it takes the village (people) to recruit football players? When they get to the “YMCA” part, do the coaches flash referee signals for holding, offsides, grounding, and a safety? Can you see that? If the cheerleaders dressed like that this would be the playboy channel, capiche?

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
9:33 am

I’m saying, from a Southern pundit’s point of view: Thank goodness for Lane Kiffin.

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Brandon Miller

March 9th, 2009
10:11 am

Did this article really just happen?

Artie Fufkin

March 9th, 2009
10:17 am

OMG — thank you for this! What a great way to start a Monday! As a Georgia fan, I think Kiffin will be remembered as UT’s Ray Goff, albeit he is swapping the hayseed “aw shucks” persona for West Coast Cheese. The parallels are eerie — way too young, way too insecure, completely unremarkable coaching career, and surrounding himself with assistants who we all know they they know more than he does (much like McDuffie was purported to think of Goff).

All I can say is that I hope he lasts long enough for Jon Gruden to get hired away somewhere else!

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
10:20 am

Thanks, Artie. Anything to brighten a new week.

Brew

March 9th, 2009
10:25 am

Hey Mark, how did those USC and Ole Miss recruiting classes do after these “Wild Boyz” incidents? Wasn’t one class the basis for USC’s rise to prominence and a national title? Didn’t Ole Miss’s class under Orgeron form the basis for last year’s Cotton Bowl winners? The shirtless dancing is fun to mock, but you intentionally left out how many good players went to those two schoools even after word of these incidents got out.

T-Bone

March 9th, 2009
10:27 am

Mark, Any word from the Knoxville media on Kiffin? I wonder how these antics are coming across to the hillbilly crowd.

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
10:31 am

I’m not sure when the YouTube USC video was shot, so I don’t know if that shirtless class coincided with the rise to prominence or simply came afterward. As for Ole Miss … those recruits sure seemed to play a whole lot better when they got Houston Nutt to coach them.

Mac

March 9th, 2009
10:32 am

T-Bone, being close enough to the Tennessee line to consume Tennessee media, I can say the Hillbilly crowd is eating it up. “Well, Tennessee is getting talk about nationally,” they crow. “He’s got a plan to raise UT’s profile,” they boast.

I think they’re whistling past the graveyard. Contrary to popular cliche, not all publicity is good publicity. UT’s coaching staff is being exposed as a bunch of oddball freaks.

Convenient

March 9th, 2009
10:34 am

It’s convenient to leave out the fact that the Ole Miss team which BEAT FLORIDA IN GAINESVILLE in 2008 had the hand picked recruits brought in by Ed Orgeron. But hey, who cares about journalistic integrity these days, I want my sports to read like TMZ.

I’ve said it before, it’s good for everyone to think less of Kiffin and Co. at UT. When he sneaks up and beats UGA there’s going to be a lot of upset Dawgs in Athens. Then, all of a sudden, he’ll become a great coach because no one wants to get beat by a perceived buffoon.

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
10:35 am

Mac beat me to it, T-Bone. I think Tennessee fans — a lot of them, anyway — love the new guy just because he’s not the old guy. The same way Kentucky fans loved Billy Gillispie until they decided he’s in over his head, which has taken not quite two seasons.

andrew miller

March 9th, 2009
10:46 am

UT is a joke.

Pat Kirwan thinks Knowshon is going to fall to Philly with the 28th pick? What is wrong with that guy? I’ve got a totally different opinion on that. http://www.bulldawgillustrated.com/blog/186/Knowshons-40-yard-dud

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Mel Harris

March 9th, 2009
10:47 am

The SEC boys are getting nervous. Kiffin has put together an all star coaching staff and had a very successful recruiting class considering the very short time that was available. He is installing discipline in the team by starting monitoring class room attendance, instituting a very strenuous conditioning program and making some personal appearance changes such as new hair cuts, no earrings or nose rings, sloppy pants, etc. Mark Bradley, you dawgs, gators, and bammers can laugh at the trivial stuff all you want, but he is making some very real, effective and substantive improvements in the program. And you know as well as I that UT will be back on top soon. We are coming after you guys and you know it.

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Go Gators

March 9th, 2009
10:48 am

You could take a picture of Richt and put it in the dictionary next to “Underachievement”, or any of the antonyms for “Relevancy”. That would be an interesting “artistic rendering”.

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
10:53 am

I thought that was awfully low for Moreno myself, Andrew. But Mr. Kirwan is good at what he does.

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Tennessee Hound

March 9th, 2009
11:21 am

WOW, so some guy takes an idea that was used at a university that was once considered great, then average, and now is great again to create buzz. Guess what it actually worked. So please make fun our coach and his antics during the recruiting process. I enjoy it when he gets up at 5am and goes for a jog and decides he is going to try something new and different at Tennessee. Who knows next he may turn the indoor practice facility into a gay bar, yet if he wins who will care.

GO VOLS

AC in Boulder

March 9th, 2009
11:22 am

Tennesee will be back in the middle of the SEC where they belong and are used to being for most of their history. Kiffin is unproven and seemingly unintelligent. It will be nice to have another annual whipping boy on our schedule and it is only sweeter the more he sticks his foot in his mouth without winning Game 1! Oh and by the way, that shirtless video was a joke and probably the gayest thing i’ve seen in quite some time (not that there’s anything wrong with that). Go DAWGS!!!

bill_in_atl

March 9th, 2009
11:33 am

Hey Mark, Is Florida a great job? How about UConn? Pitt? Georgetown? Michigan State? All better jobs than UGA? I think you’ll say yes, right?

If so, then aren’t you basing you measure on recent winning more than everything else? Couldn’t you have also said that St.Johns, Depaul and Michigan were great jobs? What happened there?

The point is that Oklahoma is “clearly the better job” today based on one major factor. They have a better team and a better coach and they are therefore WINNING.

If you could have traded Felton for Capel 3 years ago who would have the better job today in your opinion?

I readily admit that there was a time when you could have made that statement and no one could have argued, but now that UGA has built a $30 MILLION dollar basketball practice facility and they have committed to paying a coach in excess of $2 Million per season, when all factors are considered (including the town, the weather and the proximity to the best talent in America) it’s a FINE JOB to have. In fact one could argue that the (lack of significant) pressure to win big and fast makes it even more attractive.

Would you rather make $2Million per season in Athens or Lexington today? Do you think Tubby MIGHT have made a different choice if he had it to do over again with hindsight?

Then add that Capel is from NC and therefore would be back closer to home and family and it starts to make plenty of sense. Furthermore, he currently has the best player in America and no matter what anyone says next year will see a dropoff for OU.

Just my 2 cents.

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
11:37 am

One reason Georgia isn’t a great job: Zero basketball tradition. A second reason: Fans seem to take a perverse pride in not caring about the sport. Maybe I’ve got those in reverse order, but they would seem significant concerns.

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
11:38 am

Oh, and no, I don’t think Tubby Smith regrets going to Kentucky and winning a national championship. I’m certain he’s glad he did.

KiffinOwnsBradley

March 9th, 2009
12:09 pm

Kiffin Owns Bradley, lol @ this “article”

bill_in_atl

March 9th, 2009
1:10 pm

Mark, I agree to some extent with what you’re saying, but I already covered the point about tradition. UF had less than UGA (and that’s saying something) before Donovon. Lon had a little success but not enough to vault them past Hugh Durham and Tubby’s work. Again, I’ve already made my case about that whole story.

As to your second point about the pride in not caring, we all know when UGA was winning the fans went crazy and the Steg was rocking. That excuse is the same cop out that EVERY fan base takes when it’s losing, unless it’s a perennial winner like UK basketball, Michigan football, etc…

And to the last point about Tubby, I’m sue he has a National Title under his belt, but I do not believe he has enjoyed the past 13 years of his life as much as he would have had he used the UK offer to increase his salary and been the man to build UGA into a long term winner. He’d have buildings named after him. He’d be LOVED. He’d be just as rich. And who knows, he could EASILY have won a title in Athens in the past 13 years given his abilities and the talent that has been coming out of the state of GA (and going to other schools for the most part). You may be right, but you may not. I don’t think either of of know for “certain”.

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
1:20 pm

I know Tubby pretty well, and I believe he enjoyed his time in Lexington all the way until the end. He left because he didn’t feel the new AD was fully behind him, which is a good reason to leave.

As for Florida having less tradition pre-Donovan than Georgia … Florida went to the Sweet 16 under Norm Sloan and the Final Four under Kruger. (Georgia went to the Final Four under Durham and the Sweet 16 under Tubby.) But I’ll also note one of my favorite little statistics: The season after Georgia’s run to the 1983 Final Four, home attendance actually declined.

I’ve been around the SEC since 1975, and I’ve never seen fans less passionate about basketball than Georgia’s. Every year the Bulldogs bring the smallest crowds to the SEC tournament — even when it’s held at the Georgia Dome. I’ve lived here 25 years, and I still don’t understand it.

Jack G.

March 9th, 2009
1:25 pm

I dont think its smart to poke fun at Kiffin before the season starts. You may have to put a lot of seasoning on those words when you have to eat them.
Remember the old saying about who laughs last.
Personally I think Tenn. has a good team that was just under coached last year.

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
1:27 pm

We’re not laughing at Mr. Kiffin. We’re laughing with him.

bill_in_atl

March 9th, 2009
1:32 pm

Mark, you know Tubby. I do NOT. So I will not argue that point, but I still insist that if Tubby had stayed then everything would have been much different for UGA basketball including not just wins and tournament runs, but also the overall support for the program. As is, you’re right thanks to Jirsa, Harrick(s) and Felton.

Back to the point about Oklahoma and Capel, which is the topic, I suppose you’ve seen Chip’s blog on the subject today. He seems to imply that those who dismiss the possibilities (for Capel or an equivalent type coach) don’t know Damon Evans well enough.

brick

March 9th, 2009
1:34 pm

Lets take a look at UT’s all star staff. Two are former USC coaches that struck out on their own as head coaches. Those two all star coaches have a combined 15-25 record, thats all star material in anyone’s book. Another assistant has a reputation for drinking too much, and recently another has been linked to fooling around with the co-eds. two more qualities of all star coaches.

In most cases these actions would be an embarassment, but apparently at UT it is something to be proud of and call them an all star staff. UT will be lucky to duplicate their 5-7 record of 2008, and their 3 win season of a couple of years ago is much more likely than a 7 win season.

gdawginkalamazoo

March 9th, 2009
1:34 pm

Mark, thanks for the laugh today. That picture is hilarious. I believe that the “notoriety” that Kiffin and his staff are bringing to UT is probably on that same level of notoriety that the Unabomber brought to Univ. of Michigan. Nothing any institution would actually want.

I guess we have named the price for a new coach. Now let’s get a anme to go with that 2 mil.

What happens to Bobby Bowden now? Those 14 wins they might have to vacate will pretty much be the curtain call for catching up to old JoePa.

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
1:39 pm

Thanks, Kalamazoo. I first saw the doctored photo last Thursday, and it still makes me laugh.

And Bill, Chip and I had a long conversation last week and I know his views. I await Damon Evans’ choice with great anticipation.

gdawginkalamazoo

March 9th, 2009
2:08 pm

Mark, didn’t D. Wilkins leave after 83? That might be one reason the attendance dropped off. How many legitimate shots have we had to win the SEC tourney? I can’t recall any. Well okay everybody knew we would win it last year with that team. If the UGA crowds had been hugh last year all the other teams would have suspected that we were up to something and probably played harder thus reducing our chances to win. Your sports Psychology 101 lesson for the day.

Build a winner and the fans will show up. If you have been covering the SEC since 1975 then you know UGA fans we really don’t need a reason to get drunk but any legitimate exucse and we are there, baseball, basketball etc.

Mel Harris

March 9th, 2009
2:18 pm

Brick, you will be eating your words in a year or 2–maybe this fall. Nothing will be proven until we get on the field, but the conditioning program, the class attendance program, culling the undesirables, instilling discipline in an undisciplined team and keeping kids out of jail this off season will go a long way toward winning games. The problems with the program is not the nuances that Bradley and others laugh about. The new staff has to install a new defense, install the 3rd offense in as many years and find a QB that can complete a pass. One QB has a fractured wrist going into the spring that will certainly not help. But is that good enough to whip a Bulldog’s screw tail this year? Maybe. But we will see. I hope you are not worried. Don’t look back–someone is gaining on you. Remember the whipping you got by 51-33 between the hedges year before last? More of those days are on the way.

Tired

March 9th, 2009
2:22 pm

Being from Georgia but not a UGA fan I can step back and see a lot of the arrogance from the ‘Dawg’ fans… This article epitomizes that. You know how your parents preach to you that its OK to be different and not to judge? Maybe UT is on to something, maybe not. If these shirtless rants do something for them then wonderful. If not, they are digging their own grave. Whats the point in discussing it any more than that? This is one of the worst articles I have read in a long time. I dont normally comment on these articles but feel the need here because I am done hearing about UT football. It seems like the majority of articles ANYWHERE are about UT football. Are we all pointing fingers and laughing here or is everyone just a little afraid to admit that UT may be a force in the upcoming seasons. I believe Lane Kiffin will get more than two years in Knoxville, they are in no hurry to spend anymore money on coaches or buyouts. Mr. Bradley –> If you want people to continue to read your articles find something better to talk about. I’m tired of hearing about UT.

TheItalianDawg

March 9th, 2009
2:45 pm

wow!!! I cant believe my eyes! Pete Carroll shirtless between 16 and 17 years old kids screaming and jumping, does he has any self respect!!

DawgMan

March 9th, 2009
2:50 pm

Kiffin could have his coaches show up on game day with no clothes and it will not matter. Kiffin is in over his head at this level, and he’s doing all these juvenile high school tricks to get recruits to like him, and with all the repeated gaffes, he’s in for a world of shock when the season starts. Look for Richt, who Kiffin insulted, to lay at least a half a hundred on UT this year. Urban Meyer? They may need 3 digits on the scoreboard in Gainesville this year for the UF-UT game. It will get ugly early. Kiffin may not last 3 years in Knoxville.

Vol Fan

March 9th, 2009
3:06 pm

Mark,
You are a total Georgia Homer Bozo. Do you wear a skirt while cheerleading or just wave your pom-poms? Guess being an objective journalist is out of your league, huh? You kind of remind me of the idiot hometown fan (Kirkwood) in the Allstate commercials.

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
3:46 pm

Actually, Dominique Wilkins left in 1982. And next season Georgia made the Final Four without him.

marseilles mutt

March 9th, 2009
3:57 pm

Re UT; any publicity is better than no publicity I suppose, but what a paradox!

The coaches telling the recruits, “No dreds, ditch the earrings, hitch up your britches and get your scrawny butts to class…..after four sets and twenty reps each of the following…then conditioning drills, but in the meantime WE- the coaches- ARE GONNA BOOGIE, C’MON COACH, SHAKE YO BOOTIE! Ye hah!”

This is to improve disipline? No credibility gap there! But I guess I am missing something.

However, what I really found somewhat humorous was imagining the same scenerio with Coaches Bryant, Jordan, Butts, Dodd, Neyland, Royal and Broyles sitting down together to do the choreography for the ‘Strip Skit’. “You mean this is what we gotta do to get recruits?” I wonder what the response to that question would have been. Love to turn the clock back.

Oh yeah, and even UT news MB, is better than no news.

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
4:00 pm

I try to make this Buzz Atlanta-related, but somehow Kiffin updates have become the universal language.

wxwax

March 9th, 2009
4:10 pm

I like Lane Kiffin. He’s seen what works at the most successful college football program in the country, USC, and he’s trying to bring it to Tennessee. I hope it works. It’s fun.

Yes, he’s indiscreetly shot his mouth off a couple of times. He’ll learn. But… and this is a big but… he’s trying to instill a new attitude in a moribund program. If he can get the Vols to play with excitement aggression, he’ll immediately improve upon their dismal recent record.

The SEC’s a stuffy, nasty, cynical conference. I think Kiffin’s a breath of fresh air. Screw all the stick in the muds who don’t appreciate him.

Yes, ultimately it will all come down to winds and losses, not off-season yapping and yelping. But count me in as hoping Kiffin succeeds. Rather his way, than the grotesque Star Chamber that is Auburn, or Alabama, or Arkansas, or…

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
4:15 pm

Last I checked, that “moribund program” won the SEC East in 2007.

UGa fans hope Kiffin cannot coach..

March 9th, 2009
4:17 pm

but they surely seem worried!

Peter

March 9th, 2009
4:52 pm

If anybody connected with UT football is going to go topless it…well why even write it because it’d be removed but I’m just saying….

marseilles mutt

March 9th, 2009
5:14 pm

Yo wxwax:

How do “winds”-LK is nothing if not windy-and “a breath of fresh air” inter-relate? We are talking about salaries in the millions, and alumns that would as soon shoot you as look at you if you do not ‘wind’. Although he does seem to have that part down pretty well.

Frankly, I would kind of see if I could ‘walk the walk’ b/4 I tried to ‘talk the talk’. Just an opinion, but LK’s head coaching record thus far would not seem to offer him an ‘entitlement’, does it?

Mark Bradley

March 9th, 2009
5:28 pm

“Windy.” Good one.

YAD

March 9th, 2009
7:12 pm

From Carnac the Magnificent:

Answer: Big Ben, Big Ben, and UGA Basketball.
Question: What is a clock, a jock and a crock.