March Madness, Georgia-style

One by one, the field gets smaller. Some advance, while others don’t. Long-shot dreams are realized, while some sure-fire bets fall by the wayside.

Yes, the Georgia legislative session is winding down.

Hey, I couldn’t have been talking about basketball in Georgia this time of year. (Thanks for nothing, Bulldogs, Yellow Jackets, Panthers, Eagles, Bears, and any other Division I schools I left out.) But if you read the foregoing and thought of the usual kind of March Madness, feel free to discuss how your brackets are doing in the thread below. I hope they’re doing better than mine; they almost have to be.

Or use the thread below to talk about whatever else is on your mind.

– By Kyle Wingfield

273 comments Add your comment

Rafe Hollister

March 22nd, 2013
7:05 pm

Baby shot in the face while in a stroller. Sub humans roam the streets, in Brunswick. Horrible!

Dusty

March 22nd, 2013
7:10 pm

Well, Kyle, good news from the BRAVES. Hudson will be pitching in their first real game. Going to be a winnner. Yes sir.

Anyway, I’m glad to hear the craziness is March Madness. I was blaming the craziness on the moon.

Hillbilly D

March 22nd, 2013
7:13 pm

Yes, the Georgia legislative session is winding down.

That’s always a good thing.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 22nd, 2013
8:23 pm

Chicago -

“I don’t see any Caucasians being moved, bussed, or murdered in the streets as they travel along gang lines, or stand on the steps of a CPS school,” said activist Wendy Matil Pearson as opponents of the school closing plans protested outside Horatio May Elementary Community Academy in the Austin neighborhood.

Boy, I bet the dummycrats just hop right into action and solve all the problems, uh huh.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 22nd, 2013
8:30 pm

Here’s a poll for the libs -

Obama’s job approval measure has fallen eight points since December, from 55% to 47%. His rating is comparable to George W. Bush’s (45%) at the same point early in his second term and is much lower than Bill Clinton’s 60% rating in February 1997.

Terry Tucker

March 22nd, 2013
8:36 pm

GA kids are fat, out of shape and lack motivation.
Kids learn behavior and values at home.
We are the redest of the red states.
’nuff said.

getalife

March 22nd, 2013
8:54 pm

Clinton 16.

8 more years!

@@

March 22nd, 2013
9:25 pm

When I read “March Madness,” I think of floor burns. Those things take forEVAH to heal.

Stephenson Billings

March 22nd, 2013
9:31 pm

Three Years Later, Obamacare Is Even Less Popular

“In 2010, the Democrats rammed Obamacare through Congress in open defiance of public opinion, and an incensed citizenry responded by giving Republicans their biggest gains in the House of Representatives since before World War II. Now, coinciding with tomorrow’s 3-year anniversary of President Obama’s signing Obamacare into law, new polling suggests that his namesake is now even less popular than it was at the time of its passage.

According to the Kaiser Health Tracking Poll for March, only 18 percent of Republicans, 31 percent of independents, and 58 percent of members of Obama’s own party, have a favorable opinion of Obamacare. Overall, Kaiser’s polling indicates that only 37 percent of Americans like Obamacare — down 9 points from Kaiser’s tally in the month immediately following Obamacare’s passage.

By about 2-to-1 margins, Kaiser’s respondents now say that, under Obamacare, they expect the cost of American health care to rise (55 percent), rather than fall (21 percent), and the quality of American health care to fall (45 percent) rather than rise (24 percent). By more than 3-to-1 margins (57 to 16 percent on costs, 55 to 18 percent on quality), independents share these same low expectations for life under Obamacare.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/three-years-later-obamacare-even-less-popular_708813.html

Stephenson Billings

March 22nd, 2013
9:38 pm

Health Insurers Warn on Premiums

“Health insurers are privately warning brokers that premiums for many individuals and small businesses could increase sharply next year because of the health-care overhaul law, with the nation’s biggest firm projecting that rates could more than double for some consumers buying their own plans.

The projections, made in sessions with brokers and agents, provide some of the most concrete evidence yet of how much insurance companies might increase prices when major provisions of the law kick in next year—a subject of rigorous debate.

The projected increases are at odds with what the Obama Administration says consumers should be expecting overall in terms of cost. The Department of Health and Human Services says that the law will “make health-care coverage more affordable and accessible,” pointing to a 2009 analysis by the Congressional Budget Office that says average individual premiums, on an apples-to-apples basis, would be lower.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324557804578374761054496682.html

breckenridge

March 22nd, 2013
10:15 pm

“Health insurers are privately warning brokers that premiums for many individuals and small businesses could increase sharply next year because of the health-care overhaul law, with the nation’s biggest firm projecting that rates could more than double for some consumers buying their own plans.”

Not good. Not good at all.

But if you look at the past 3 decades you will find by far the primary driver of health care premiums is obesity. Fat Americans that completely lack self discipline. Fat fat fat. Not a 40 year old with a little beer gut, no. We’re talking 50-60-70-80 pounds and more overweight. It disgusts me almost as much as those 52% of Americans who have 25K or less in net worth, leaving out the value of their home. No financial discipline whatsoever, absolutely inexcusable. Stop trying to keep up with the Joneses! They are stupid losers!

getalife

March 22nd, 2013
10:50 pm

We will get single payer like the rest of the civilized world so for all those Americans leaving the gop in droves, join the majority to get it done.

.

breckenridge

March 22nd, 2013
11:05 pm

Aesop….Dusty…etc…..people of various faiths, be they Hindu or Buddhist, the Protestant or Catholic sects of Christianity, Taoist or Shinto, or Unitarians such as myself and everything in between, for the most part have one thing in common – we believe in a just God. We believe in a God who creates an even playing field for all. And ultimately we believe in a God who will judge fairly, and judge not on what we profess to believe but on how actually act on those professed beliefs. If God is not a just God then there a really no point to religion whatsoever.

But…….are we to believe in a God who discriminates? Are we to believe in a God who has a bias and prejudice against the majority of people in the world for basically no other reason than where they were born? Are we to believe a God that requires one to be a born-again Christian in order to curry his favor? Are we to believe in a God who says to a death row inmate who hacked up 32 people with a carving knife “Oh you’re born-again? No problem, clean slate for you.” No, not at all.

You accuse me of attacking people of faith. Nonsense. But I have, and will continue, to attack the highest form of religious ignorance in the world – evangelical Christianity. And I will do this because I care about the republican party, and fully realize that until the repressive and discriminatory evangelical agenda is flushed from the party it will continue on the road to complete irrelevance. And once the evangelical element is gone? I will cease and desist my attacks.

Cutty

March 23rd, 2013
12:46 am

Way to really mail it in.

bluecoat

March 23rd, 2013
1:45 am

Off topic who serves whom?.Last month United States Postal Service Postmaster Patrick Donahoe warned that the Postal Service was on the brink of default. He proposed cutting Saturday delivery service as a way to save $2 billion annually. But in a setback to the agency’s cost-saving efforts, Congress has passed legislation requiring a six-day postal service delivery schedule. Now the Government Accountability Office has released a report finding that USPS is bound to Congress’ spending agreement. The beleaguered mail carrier lost roughly $16 billion in 2012.

The Postal Service is an independent agency, which means it is not funded by tax dollars. Instead, USPS functions like a business, making about $15 million in revenue each day on sales of postage, products, and services. Congress does not allocate money to support the mail service, but still holds legislative control over it.

Congress typically includes a provision in its federal budget each year that requires USPS to deliver mail six days a week and despite pleas from the Postal Service, lawmakers included it in their final resolution on Thursday.

The latest ruling has left many incensed. Polling shows that the majority of Americans support the United States Postal Service decreasing its delivery service. David Partenheimer, a spokesman for USPS, has said that five-day delivery is essential for keeping the Postal Service from becoming a burden on taxpayers. If Congress does not allow the post office to adapt to its customers’ changing needs, Partenheimer says, USPS will be forced to ask for a taxpayer bailout to the tune of $47 billion by 2017.

This is not the first time that Congress has meddled with the USPS business model. One reason the postal service loses $25 million every day is because it must “pre-pay” into a fund that covers pensions and health care for employees who will retire in future years. In 2006 Congress mandated that the postal service was legally required to provide $5.5 billion in annual payments each year until 2016. Without this requirement, USPS would have actually made $1 billion in profits.

USPS is a well-run business with over 31,000 retail locations and annual revenue of over $65 billion. If the postal service was a private company, it would rank 42nd in the 2012 Fortune 500 list of the largest U.S. corporations by gross revenue. USPS insists that it is only trying to suit the needs of its customers and become sustainable.
All should be voted out.No incumbent regardless party.As if the tax payer not burdened enough.

Michael H. Smith

March 23rd, 2013
6:41 am

USPS Hooey!

Feel lucky?

I dare you to make the USPS a private company without monopoly protections it enjoys. Yeah, go ahead, make my day.

Universal service obligation and monopoly status

Article I, section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution grants Congress the power to establish post offices and post roads, which has been interpreted as a de facto Congressional monopoly over the delivery of mail. Accordingly, no other system for delivering mail – public or private – can be established, absent Congress’s consent.[citation needed]

The mission of the Postal Service is to provide the American public with trusted universal postal service at affordable prices. While not explicitly defined, the Postal Service’s universal service obligation (USO) is broadly outlined in statute and includes multiple dimensions: geographic scope, range of products, access to services and facilities, delivery frequency, affordable and uniform pricing, service quality, and security of the mail. While other carriers may claim to voluntarily provide delivery on a broad basis, the Postal Service is the only carrier with a legal obligation to provide all the various aspects of universal service at affordable rates.[citation needed]

Proponents of universal service principles claim that since any obligation must be matched by the financial capability to meet that obligation, the postal monopoly was put in place as a funding mechanism for the USO, and it has been in place for over a hundred years. It consists of two parts: the Private Express Statutes (PES) and the mailbox access rule. The PES refers to the Postal Service’s monopoly on the delivery of letters, and the mailbox rule refers to the Postal Service’s exclusive access to customer mailboxes.[citation needed]

Proponents of universal service principles further claim that eliminating or reducing the PES or mailbox rule would have an impact on the ability of the Postal Service to provide affordable universal service. If, for example, the PES and the mailbox rule were to be eliminated, and the USO maintained, then either billions of dollars in tax revenues or some other source of funding would have to be found.[citation needed]

Some proponents[by whom?] of universal service principles suggest that private communications that are protected by the veil of government promote the exchange of free ideas and communications. This separates private communications from the ability of a private for-profit or non-profit organization to corrupt. Security for the individual is in this way protected by the United States Post Office, maintaining confidentiality and anonymity, as well as government employees being much less likely to be instructed by superiors to engage in nefarious spying.[citation needed] It is seen by some[by whom?] as a dangerous step to extract the universal service principle from the post office, as the untainted nature of private communications is preserved as assurance of the protection of individual freedom of privacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service#Universal_service_obligation_and_monopoly_status

Take away that Congressional Constitutional protection which your so-called “well-run business” enjoys, part of it being sole delivery of first class mail protected by law and we’ll just see how great an “IF” that will be when it does become a private company competing without any government monopolistic protections against the likes of UPS and FEDEX?

What was that old adage about NFL? (and we ain’t talking the acronym for football brucie)

Michael H. Smith

March 23rd, 2013
7:05 am

Can you believe it, the democrat controlled Senate has finally past a budget?

Who woulda thunk it?!

U.S. Senate Approves Budget

WASHINGTON—The Senate early Saturday passed its first formal budget in four years, defining Democrats’ fiscal principles for the next, uncertain stage of Washington’s battle over debt, spending and taxes.

The Democratic-drafted budget, approved narrowly a couple hours before dawn, calls for almost $1 trillion in new taxes over the next decade to help reduce the deficit. Although the budget is nonbinding and isn’t likely to become law, it fleshes out Democrats’ vision of a plan to reduce the deficit while protecting safety-net programs. The Senate passed the budget 50-49, largely along party lines.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324103504578377843045138904.html

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

March 23rd, 2013
7:20 am

DOA in the House, though.

Cherokee

March 23rd, 2013
7:50 am

Yeah Mr. Smith, and once the post office is gone, let’s see how much it costs you to send your first class letter to Alaska – betcha it will be much more than 45 cents…

Whirled Peas

March 23rd, 2013
8:42 am

At least the baby shot in Brunswick was not shot as the result of an inter-racial incident. That would have made it a hate crime and then it would have been really bad.

@@

March 23rd, 2013
8:58 am

Fat fat fat. Not a 40 year old with a little beer gut, no. We’re talking 50-60-70-80 pounds and more overweight. It disgusts me…

Big GULP!!!!!!!

Perhaps we should euthanize them? Sterilize them?

Such a liability, those fatties. Where’s the justice for all….

the rest of us?

schnirt

indigo

March 23rd, 2013
9:05 am

Political madness in Georgia is not confined to March.

indigo

March 23rd, 2013
9:12 am

breckenridge – 11:05

Since there is not a shred of hard evidence proving the existence of God, why do you believe in “a just God”?

The only sensible thing to do is to say “I don’t know if there is or is not a God(or Gods) and patiently wait for hard evidence which will decide the question, one way or another.

But, when it comes to religion most people just throw reason out the window. Why this is I do not know.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
9:20 am

Baucus, Begich, Hagan and Pryor joined the entire GOP caucus in voting against the budget resolution. Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) missed the vote.

Skeered of something?

It doesn’t matter anyway, y’all, in November 2014, after ten months of obozocare wrecking finances and destroying their health care provider, anything with a D behind it’s name will be gone, with extreme prejudice.

Rafe Hollister

March 23rd, 2013
9:27 am

They made fun of the Ryan budget getting on 40 votes in the Senate, yet, the never ending spending budget got only 50. The Murray budget wasn’t much more popular than Ryan’s, but it will not get the ridicule it deserves.

4 Dems voted against it, all in States that voted for Romney. 4 more in Romney States drank the koolaid and voted with Hairy and Patty. Hopefully, those four, Landrieu, Pryor, Johnson, and Manchin, hear the voices of their voters, in Nov 2016.

All those 8 Dems riding the fence, now get to vote on the Gun Control Bill, their stress levels have to be high.

@@

March 23rd, 2013
9:29 am

indigo:

But, when it comes to religion most people just throw reason out the window. Why this is I do not know.

Wrong!

One of the four pillars of John Wesley’s “Quadrilateral” is REASON. Methodists apply it in our theological reflection. There are four in all:

1.Scripture
2.Tradition
3.Reason
4.Experience

Just so you know….

AtlSteve

March 23rd, 2013
9:31 am

GO TARHEELS!!!!

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
9:36 am

Only a lib could ride along through space on a planet that has to have been created by a Higher Power and basically convince themselves that nothing even exists.

indigo

March 23rd, 2013
9:45 am

@@ – 9:29
Aesop – 9:36

Read this and try to reduce your abysmal level of ignorance.

http://prohuman.net/science/skeptical_inquiry_religion.htm

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

March 23rd, 2013
9:52 am

“Yeah Mr. Smith, and once the post office is gone, let’s see how much it costs you to send your first class letter to Alaska – betcha it will be much more than 45 cents…”

So we prop up an inefficient organization because it will cost us more to mail something that is going out of style, Cherokee?

That is the epitome of a liberal argument.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

March 23rd, 2013
9:56 am

“Only a lib could ride along through space on a planet that has to have been created by a Higher Power ”

Yeah, ’cause that gravity stuff is just magic . . . . :roll:

Dusty

March 23rd, 2013
10:02 am

Breckenridge,

Keep advertising your bigotry against Christians. That’s all it is and we are citizens just like you. But you would like to get rid of us. As you said, “You will continue to attack evangelical Christianity.” although it is one of the greatest humane operations in the world.

Well, let me know when you start burning us at the stake. I will get my fireproof suit on as you and indigo build the fires. I guess you will also burn the Bible long considered the greatest literature in the world. OH yes, and burn the fat people.

Anybody else you want to exterminate in your improvement plan for the USA?

@@

March 23rd, 2013
10:07 am

indigo:

I found nothing conclusive at your link. Freethinkers continue on an endless path to nowhere. If that’s what you prefer, so be it.

Far be it from me to tell YOU what YOU should or should not believe.

My only request is that you and those like you leave me free to follow my own path.

As far as I’m concerned our little exchange is over.

indigo

March 23rd, 2013
10:26 am

@@

Where did I ever say you wern’t free to follow your own path?

I believe in freedom of religion. Unfortunately, there are those in America who don’t believe we should have freedom FROM religion.

Rafe Hollister

March 23rd, 2013
10:38 am

with indigo and breck, it seems every problem, discussion, situation creates a reason for them to spout their fervent anti religious zealotry. As I said yesterday, they are the equivalent of a religious zealot on your front porch trying to get you to attend their church. If you enjoy conversing with those religious zealots, you will enjoy reading and debating anti religious zealots indigo and breck’s post.

Otherwise, back to your regular programming.

indigo

March 23rd, 2013
10:47 am

Rafe

If you weren’t so intent on attacking me, you would have noticed I NEVER make any anti-religious comments UNTIL someone here makes a pro-religious one.

For some reason, you never seem to mind all the pro religious zealot comments here.

Stephenson Billings

March 23rd, 2013
11:02 am

“We will get single payer like the rest of the civilized world”

Yea, that’ll keep costs down and improve service/treatment….

/sarcasm

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
11:09 am

Wonderful, I spend ten minutes of my life reading through the gobbledy gook hoping that maybe there might be just a spark of reason that might perhaps cause a bit of self reflection and further understanding, instead I labor on to this little jewel -

In my view, we need more skeptical inquirers who possess
the requisite expertise and are able to apply their investiga-
tive skills to religious claims. Such skeptical inquiry is sorely
needed today. It could play a vital role in the debate between
religion and science.

Yes, indie, I’ll be sure to become an airhead at the very next opportunity.

Look, man, you think Christians are the problem and I think the sods and other assorted low morals deviants are the cause of the troubles we face, history happens to back me up. Remember what happened to the Romans when they threw off their responsibilities and went to having at it? Heard much from the Grecian Empire lately?

Rafe Hollister

March 23rd, 2013
11:23 am

Here are the 20 Republicans who voted to give the Obama Administration the funding it needs to implement Obamacare. The highlighted senators are running for re-election in 2014.
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Wicker (R-MS)

Well, wouldn’t you know our two Georgia sellout Senators once again sold out, those of us who put them in the Senate.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
11:27 am

Time to hit the campaign trail and eat these people up -

The Senate plan, in contrast, includes $100 billion in upfront infrastructure spending to stimulate the economy and calls for special fast-track rules to overhaul the tax code and raise $975 billion over 10 years through legislation that could not be filibustered. Even with that tax increase and prescribed spending cuts, the Senate plan would leave the government with a $566 billion deficit in 10 years, and $5.2 trillion in additional debt over that time.

Pretty obvious we need new leadership in the Senate, ain’t it?

This is a blueprint for our success, analyze this evidence, run real projections on the numbers and then educate the American people what folly and ruin the dummycrats have in store for us.

Hang it around hairy reed’s neck.

bluecoat

March 23rd, 2013
11:29 am

If tax payer has to bail out po.We get to pay for the the parasites postage.More benefits.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
11:33 am

Global warming!

HEAVY snow is expected over the next 36 hours as Britain shivers on the coldest March weekend in 50 years. Officials advised people to avoid all but essential travel and the Met Office issued a level-3 cold weather health alert.

Can I get a duh?

curious

March 23rd, 2013
11:36 am

Anybody notice how just about every Obama initiative predicted to be a disaster by some posters here haven’t worked out that way?

@@

March 23rd, 2013
11:36 am

Unfortunately, there are those in America who don’t believe we should have freedom FROM religion.

^^^ that is where your liberal mindset kicks in. Since you’ve become accustomed to having your life directed, you assume that everyone’s out to do just that. We’re not.

Just to expand on your need to think freely, perhaps you can tell me what prompts people like the two teens in Brunswick who decided killing a baby was the right thing to do? How about those who killed little 6-month-old Jonylah Watkins in Chicago? What about Dr. Kermit Gosnell who’s accused of killing seven late-term babies and a mother at his abortion clinic? What drives them to do the things they do?

Have they not evolved? Where does their lack of respect for human life stem from, indigo? What’s missing in their lives….in their DNA?

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
11:42 am

Every obozo iniative has been a disaster, name one that hasn’t.

I dare you.

bluecoat

March 23rd, 2013
11:43 am

We need new members in the House & senate.Need remove all the teaquester, then the new and remainder of old could possibly work together.

curious

March 23rd, 2013
11:49 am

Obamacare
Reduced dependence on foreign oil
Car industry in the US

Probably could name some more, but with your blinders on, you couldn’t see them.

Stephenson Billings

March 23rd, 2013
11:49 am

Rafe @ 11:23:

Um, as we all know, Chambliss is NOT running for re-election next year…..

Stephenson Billings

March 23rd, 2013
11:50 am

The Senate budget passed with a 50-49 vote. I’d say it as pretty much party-line with a few defectors.

curious

March 23rd, 2013
11:54 am

Both Senators from GA, Al, TN, & MS voted to fund Obamacare. Even McConnell.

They may actually think their states will benefit from Obamacare.

Stephenson Billings

March 23rd, 2013
11:55 am

Obama Has Lost Advantage Over G.O.P. on Economy

“During the debate over the so-called fiscal cliff in December, public opinion surveys showed more Americans trusted President Obama than trusted Republicans in Congress when it came to handling the nation’s economy. The New Year’s Day deal to avoid going over the cliff, which included higher marginal tax rates on high earners — something Mr. Obama had campaigned on and lobbied for — was largely seen as a victory for the president.

But with more budget battles approaching, over raising the nation’s borrowing limit and perhaps reaching a grand bargain, Mr. Obama’s advantage over Congressional Republicans has all but vanished. Public approval of his handling of the economy has slipped, according to polls, and surveys now show that a roughly equal number of Americans favor Mr. Obama as favor Congressional Republicans on economic matters.

In December 2012 and January 2013, polls found that roughly half of Americans had more faith in Mr. Obama’s economic stewardship, while just over a third of respondents said they had more faith in the economic stewardship of Congressional Republicans. Since December, however, Mr. Obama’s standing has declined by roughly 10 percentage points, while Republicans in Congress have gained 4 or 5 percentage points.”

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/23/obama-has-lost-advantage-over-g-o-p-on-economy/

bluecoat

March 23rd, 2013
11:55 am

Curious-I would like to add,President Obama ran and won a second term as President of the USA.

curious

March 23rd, 2013
11:58 am

Stephenson Billings

“The Senate budget passed with a 50-49 vote. I’d say it as pretty much party-line with a few defectors.”

How does that square with Rafe’s list? Were there 2 votes?

Just Saying..

March 23rd, 2013
12:02 pm

“Obama’s job approval measure has fallen eight points since December, from 55% to 47%. His rating is comparable to George W. Bush’s (45%) at the same point early in his second term and is much lower than Bill Clinton’s 60% rating in February 1997.”

Good thing he knew to peak in November, huh?

Stephenson Billings

March 23rd, 2013
12:03 pm

curious @ 11:58:

I don’t know what Rafe is talking about. Must have been a different vote or something.

“Baucus, Begich, Hagan and Pryor joined the entire GOP caucus in voting against the budget resolution. Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) missed the vote.”

curious

March 23rd, 2013
12:04 pm

Our conservative posters remind me of the UGA men’s basketball team:

Win one, proclaim the season has turned around, then lose the next five.

Stephenson Billings

March 23rd, 2013
12:04 pm

Might have been the cloture vote or something.

Stephenson Billings

March 23rd, 2013
12:05 pm

Just Saying..

March 23rd, 2013
12:10 pm

“It doesn’t matter anyway, y’all, in November 2014, after ten months of obozocare wrecking finances and destroying their health care provider, anything with a D behind it’s name will be gone, with extreme prejudice.”

And America will be perfect again…

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
12:11 pm

Obamacare
Reduced dependence on foreign oil
Car industry in the US

obozocare – epic failure. Will cost dummycrats the majority in the Senate in 2014 and the presidency in 2016. Low information voters understand pain.

Reduced dependence on foreign oil – Thanks to GW Bush and Big Oil for moving ahead with fracking before the bleeding heart pinkos took over in 2006 and started gumming it all up.

Car industry in the US – Typical liberal “success.” Taxpayers are out over 30 billion so that the dummycrats could turn automakers over to the unions and foreigners.

Next?

Just Saying..

March 23rd, 2013
12:13 pm

Stephenson Billings: “Obama Has Lost Advantage Over G.O.P. on Economy…etc”

NOW you listen to Nate Silver…

bluecoat

March 23rd, 2013
12:19 pm

So Elmer Fudd is alive and well again.xxxxxxxxxxxxElmer Fudd: Oh, Mr. Game Warden, I hope you can help me. I’ve been told I can shoot wabbits, and goats, and pigeons, and mongooses, and dirty skunks, and ducks. Can you tell me what season it weawy is?
Bugs Bunny: Why certainly, my boy.
[Holds up a baseball]
Bugs Bunny: It’s baseball season!
[Elmer laughs dementedly]
Bugs Bunny: [Throws the baseball] Here, boy! Here, boy! Go get it! Go get it!
[Elmer runs after the baseball, shooting it repeatedly]

@@

March 23rd, 2013
12:22 pm

The Senate late Friday backed withholding the White House budget director’s pay if the president is late delivering a budget.

The budget amendment, which has no force of law, was sponsored by Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas.). It was passed by voice vote.

The amendment would also withhold the pay of the deputy director and deputy director for management of the Office of Management and Budget.

President Obama was supposed to deliver his budget by the first Monday of February under the law, but his 2014 budget is now slated to come out in April.

Cornyn told the Senate that “the president has rendered himself entirely irrelevant,” in the budget process since the House and Senate will have acted first.

He noted that after Congress enacted a “No Budget, No Pay” law this year, the Senate brought a budget to the floor for the first time in four years.

No Democrats rose to defend Obama.

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/289985-senate-backs-withholding-obama-budget-directors-pay

Bruno

March 23rd, 2013
12:25 pm

obozocare – epic failure. Will cost dummycrats the majority in the Senate in 2014 and the presidency in 2016. Low information voters understand pain.

According to this WSJ article, that pain isn’t far away:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324557804578374761054496682.html#printMode?KEYWORDS=health+overhaul

From the article: “In a private presentation to brokers late last month, UnitedHealth Group Inc., the nation’s largest carrier, said premiums for some consumers buying their own plans could go up as much as 116%, and small-business rates as much as 25% to 50%. The company said the estimates were driven in part by growing medical costs not directly tied to the law. It also cited the law’s requirements that health status not affect rates and that plans include certain minimum benefits and limits to out-of-pocket charges, among other things.”

Just Saying..

March 23rd, 2013
12:32 pm

“obozocare – epic failure. Will cost dummycrats the majority in the Senate in 2014 and the presidency in 2016.”

Bet your house on that, Bruno?

Oh, right, November 4. Sorry, man…

indigo

March 23rd, 2013
12:45 pm

Aesop – 11:09

Don’t bother trying to understand that as it’s clearly beyond your comprehension.

Bruno

March 23rd, 2013
12:46 pm

Not betting on anything, JS. That was Aesop’s quote. I was responding to the pain part of it.

Just Saying..

March 23rd, 2013
12:52 pm

“Not betting on anything, JS. That was Aesop’s quote. I was responding to the pain part of it.”

My bad. Hard to keep focus. In the Madness, you know…

breckenridge

March 23rd, 2013
12:54 pm

Aesop – Does the Constitution actually say one must be born in America to become president?

southpaw

March 23rd, 2013
1:12 pm

breckenridge

March 23rd, 2013
12:54 pm

From Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.

The only way someone born outside America could become President is if “natural born Citizen” doesn’t mean the same as “born in America.” That, or someone who is at least in his/her 220s came to America before the Constitution was adopted, and now wants to run for President. ;-)

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
1:35 pm

Our President is heading home after planting the seed for an Iranian peace plan and reconciling Israel and Turkey’s relationship.

A very successful trip.

All we need is a budget passed and return to full employment to cement his legacy as one of our best Presidents.

Bow down cons.

bluecoat

March 23rd, 2013
1:52 pm

wish he could get enough majority to repeal the 22nd amend.

southpaw

March 23rd, 2013
1:57 pm

“Bow down cons.”

To the king or to the Messiah? Palm Sunday IS tomorrow, come to think of it.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
2:06 pm

Bow down means let the Obama Derangement Syndrome go.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
2:08 pm

Get over it.

Our President is serving his last term and saved our country.

Let it go cons.

southpaw

March 23rd, 2013
2:17 pm

Getalife @2:06
Bow –
to bend the knee or body or incline the head

Down -
from higher to lower; in descending direction or order; toward, into, or in a lower position

“Obama Derangement Syndrome” is nowhere to be found among those definitions.

A day or two ago, somebody said “cons” and didn’t mean “conservatives,” and now this. Maybe I need a scorecard to keep track of liberal definitions. It’s like trying to talk in an echo chamber full of Humpty Dumptys.
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.”

Cherokee

March 23rd, 2013
2:21 pm

“So we prop up an inefficient organization because it will cost us more to mail something that is going out of style, Cherokee?”

sorry I’m so late Tib.

Not what I said at all. First, the post office isn’t ‘inefficient’. They deliver a letter anywhere in the US for one small price. That’s the hallmark of efficiency.

And if that competition goes away, are you really silly enough to think that UPS will do that for you?

Sometimes – and I know this is heresy to cons – the government does things more cheaply and efficiently than private enterprise.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
2:23 pm

con is short for conservative like lib is short for liberal.

My point is you can’t beat him so join the majority to get things done like a budget.

southpaw

March 23rd, 2013
2:32 pm

“con is short for conservative”
Sounds OK. I wish one of your cohorts had thought the same thing a day or two ago.

“you can’t beat him so join the majority to get things done like a budget.”

We’ll see. But if that’s the point you want to make, the instruction to “bow down” isn’t the way to go about making it.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
2:36 pm

Yeah, tell that to rush freaking out about a Beyonce song called Bow down.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
2:40 pm

Any comment on the baby getting shot in Brunswick cons?

southpaw

March 23rd, 2013
2:44 pm

So Rush thought that Beyonce was telling people to get over Obama Derangement Syndrome? Wow. I missed that. Serves me right for not listening to his show.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
2:46 pm

Yes, you are not a real con unless you believe every word from rw media like rush,

@@

March 23rd, 2013
2:54 pm

getalife:

Any comment on the baby getting shot in Brunswick cons?

We’ve got Rafe’s comment at 7:05 p.m. last night and my question to indigo at 11:36 a.m. this morning.

Is there something you’d like to add?

southpaw

March 23rd, 2013
2:54 pm

Finn, where are you when I need some help? You do a great big belly laugh better than I do, and the 2:46 post definitely merits that.

As for the baby getting shot, here’s an idea: EVERYBODY shut up and let the law enforcement folks do their jobs.

Wait a minute. I’m not supposed to talk about that, because I don’t fit getalife’s description of “con.”

breckenridge

March 23rd, 2013
3:02 pm

“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”

Yes, southpaw, I was aware of that. I was actually trying to set a trap for Aesop so I would have a reason to hurl a bit of abuse his way.

I suspect, but have never been able to verify, the “or a citizen of the United States” clause contained therein was a concession to Alexander Hamilton, who was born somewhere in the Caribbean. Madison makes no mention of it in his Notes on the Constitutional Convention. Hamilton was positively brilliant, he had a genius level IQ. Actually 3 other Founding Fathers had genius level IQs as well – Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. I would estimate that each of them had an IQ at least…….oh let’s call it 75 points higher than that of Sarah Palin. She does a nice job reading speeches that others write but that aside she is a dumb bunny.

Always Remember: Never vote for someone that isn’t smarter than you are.

southpaw

March 23rd, 2013
3:06 pm

“Never vote for someone that isn’t smarter than you are.”

But that’s practically everybody! ;-)

southpaw

March 23rd, 2013
3:15 pm

Further thought about Presidential eligibility-
The way it was taught in my American History class, the concession was more to reality than to Hamilton. Apparently the phrase “natural born Citizen” implied “natural born Citizen of the United States.” No adult of that time, including George Washington himself, fit that description, since there was no such thing as the United States at the times of their respective births.

Of course, your history class was probably a tad different from mine.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
3:25 pm

Law enforcement did their job and caught them.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
3:29 pm

obozo is a trojan horse sent by al qaeda to the dummycrats because they couldn’t beat GW Bush or the Republicans without the liberals help.

So far, their plan is working better than they could have ever hoped for.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
3:30 pm

aq is defeated .

Cyber security is the new threat and hackers are the new targets.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
3:32 pm

obl is still dead.

GM is still alive.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
3:33 pm

Tell that to assad and morsi.

obozo now consorts with the iranians, he sure is cementing his legacy.

Many, many Americans will perish because of his actions.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
3:36 pm

assad will be dead soon and morsi is finding out that governing is a tough job.

He will lose the next election.

We will have a peace deal with Iran to open up the global markets in that region.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
3:36 pm

America is strong so in 2017 we will eliminate the iranian threat to the world and beat back the savages in egypt, lybia and syria but many brave US soldiers will die bacause of it. The iranians will, in the meantime, launch nuclear missiles at us and Israel but will hit China instead, this will buy the Republicans enough time to get elected.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
3:39 pm

obozo probably gave them some blueprints for one of our better missile systems but they are savages after all, so building it correctly will be too big of a hurdle to overcome.

southpaw

March 23rd, 2013
3:40 pm

getalife @3:25
Law enforcement isn’t done yet. The District Attorney still has to see about prosecuting the case. A grand jury hasn’t indicted him yet. Which leads me to a question–serious, not snarky. What do you make of Sabrina Elkins’ protestation of De’Marquis’ innocence?

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
3:40 pm

Clinton will win for 8 more years.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
3:43 pm

southpaw,

I robbery in broad daylight produces eyewitnesses.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
3:44 pm

clinton hasn’t a chance, we will explain to the low information voters that someone who says “what difference does it make” about 4 brave dead Americans will one day say the same thing about their corpses, and that will enrage them.

Numbers-R-US

March 23rd, 2013
3:44 pm

Cons apparently have difficulty with words that have multiple meanings. Amongst other things.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
3:47 pm

Our President’s speech for the Iranian people was brilliant. He said they are a great civilization that would do great for all the Iranians in the global market instead of playing games with us and the world.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
3:48 pm

“What is so mind-numbing about this is we don’t have this kind of stuff happen here,” Mayes said. “You expect that kind of crap in Atlanta.”

Like I always say, the savages will find you unless you eliminate them first.

southpaw

March 23rd, 2013
3:51 pm

“Cons apparently have difficulty with words that have multiple meanings.”

True, when Humpty Dumpty wannabes are assigning the meanings.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
3:53 pm

great civilizations don’t bury women in the ground and throw stones at them until they’re dead because they were raped.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
3:55 pm

Anybody else notice that the dummycrats accuse Christians of doing things the iranians actually do and then they call the iranians great?

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
4:00 pm

It wasn’t too long ago that iranians were maiming and killing brave American soldiers on the field of battle, now the dummycrats call them great.

Numbers-R-US

March 23rd, 2013
4:11 pm

Humpty Dumpty wannabes

I know of none other than cons that aspire to be a “Humpty Dumpty”. Their unintended humor does crack me up at times though.

Numbers-R-US

March 23rd, 2013
4:14 pm

Cons make good little Christian soldiers.

southpaw

March 23rd, 2013
4:18 pm

Numbers-R-US

March 23rd, 2013
4:11 pm

Would you call getalife a “con?” If not, check his 2:06 post. “Bow down means let the Obama Derangement Syndrome go,” which I rebutted at 2:17. An aspiring Humpty Dumpty if ever there was one.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
4:27 pm

I yeild the Beyonce throwdown over to our liberal freinds, the low information experts.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
4:29 pm

Or should I say yield and friends, geez

curious

March 23rd, 2013
4:33 pm

“It wasn’t too long ago that iranians were maiming and killing brave American soldiers on the field of battle, now the dummycrats call them great.”

Which war was that?

Liberals are low information only because they want to present information that conservatives can understand. Pretty considerate, right?

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
4:39 pm

There were actually two of them, curious, Iraq and Afghanistan. pmsnbc must not have gotten around to telling you low infos about these things.

You do know they found al qaeda in Iraq, don’t ya?

Just Saying..

March 23rd, 2013
5:08 pm

“It wasn’t too long ago that iranians were maiming and killing brave American soldiers on the field of battle, now the dummycrats call them great.”

Mercedes Benz is not a great car?

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
5:08 pm

corporate media calls it a vote-a-Rama but it is the senate actually working.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
5:10 pm

pmsnbc didn’t tell y’all about nazi germany’s total defeat in World War Two?!?!?

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
5:12 pm

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
5:15 pm

Lets discuss fixing the gop party.

Whig party.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
5:16 pm

lame duck, quack, quack

Just Saying..

March 23rd, 2013
5:19 pm

“lame duck, quack, quack”

That only happens in the second term…

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
5:19 pm

I think if we can get you cons to join the real world that would be a huge accomplishment.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
5:21 pm

I got a suggestion for a good blog pool, let’s all try to guess what obozo’s approval number will fall to. I’ve added up all the sods and other low info types who couldn’t care less what obozo does, at least they won’t until the chinese soldiers shutdown their gay bath houses, so I have a pretty solid number to beat.

Winner takes it all.

17%.

Not quite as low as the senate but close.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
5:22 pm

pmsnbc didn’t tell y’all obozo won his second term?!?!?

Just Saying..

March 23rd, 2013
5:23 pm

“pmsnbc didn’t tell y’all obozo won his second term?!?!?”

I only care that you know it…

bluecoat

March 23rd, 2013
5:31 pm

A little more time and Iran and Germany will go at it.

@@

March 23rd, 2013
6:23 pm

Keynes’ disciples are sending a canary into the coal mine.

Forget Cyprus, Japan Is The Real Crisis

The overwhelming consensus among the world’s economists is that quantitative easing (QE) has saved the day in the U.S. and that Japan needs to follow suit, on a larger scale. I beg to differ and suggest this policy will almost certainly lead to a hyperinflationary disaster in Japan. If that’s right, it will have serious ramifications for other countries, dragged down by an acceleration of the so-called currency wars. More broadly though, it is likely to destroy the myth pushed by today’s economists that QE is a cure-all for downtrodden economies. It isn’t and Japan will become the template to prove it.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
6:24 pm

Indeed, as Avik Roy and Douglas Holtz-Eakin, former director of the Congressional Budget Office, argued recently at Reuters, “The great irony of Obama’s triumph .  .  . is that it can pave the way for Republicans to adopt a comprehensive, market-oriented health care agenda.”

Won’t we all be laughing out loud when that happens, oh, that obozo, what a clown he was.

indigo

March 23rd, 2013
6:31 pm

Aesop – 11:09 am

Let me try to put this in a way that even you can understand.

Almost everything in our culture has been and is subject to scientific inquiry.

The author is simply saying that religion should not be an exception and should be subject to scientific inquiry just like everything else.

Do you understand now?

Do you object? If so, why?

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
6:54 pm

2013 some years and the scientists haven’t figured it out yet?

Um, what are they after?

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
6:54 pm

“is that it can pave the way for Republicans to adopt a comprehensive, market-oriented health care agenda.”

CanadaCare.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
6:59 pm

How are you 401 k’s looking?

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
7:02 pm

Hillbilly D

March 23rd, 2013
7:13 pm

How are you 401 k’s looking?

Don’t have one; don’t want one.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
7:13 pm

Should we check the value of our 401K in dollars or yuan?

bluecoat

March 23rd, 2013
7:18 pm

Faith hope/Science reason.

@@

March 23rd, 2013
7:19 pm

indigo:

I NEVER make any anti-religious comments UNTIL someone here makes a pro-religious one.

Earlier today, I offered this in response to your claim that Christians reject reason:

indigo:

But, when it comes to religion most people just throw reason out the window. Why this is I do not know.

Wrong!

One of the four pillars of John Wesley’s “Quadrilateral” is REASON. Methodists apply it in our theological reflection. There are four in all:

1.Scripture
2.Tradition
3.Reason
4.Experience

Just so you know….

To which you responded:

@@ – 9:29
Aesop – 9:36

Read this and try to reduce your abysmal level of ignorance.

My abysmal level of ignorance

I dunno……sure looks like an attack to me, not that it mattered much.

Winning converts ain’t your forte, is it?

So…..have you been able to ascertain (scientifically speaking, of course) why people shoot and kill innocent babies? What’s missing in their DNA?

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
7:26 pm

“Should we check the value of our 401K in dollars or yuan?”

Dollars but don’t hide it in Cyprus like the Russians.

bluecoat

March 23rd, 2013
7:30 pm

I suppose you could check value in either.With proper conversion.

Hillbilly D

March 23rd, 2013
7:32 pm

Dollars but don’t hide it in Cyprus like the Russians.

But the Russians might make Cyprus a loan. Protects their investments, gets their foot in the door, and starts a wedge into the EU. And when the EU comes apart, which it will, whether it’s sooner or later, guess who is planning on being there to pick up the pieces? Power vacuums always get filled.

@@

March 23rd, 2013
7:39 pm

Hillbilly:

Looks like you’ve been watching Putin too.

bluecoat

March 23rd, 2013
7:39 pm

Faith of a grain of mustard seed you could move yonder mtn. I say give me several cases of explosives,and earth moving equipment.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
7:41 pm

That all depends on when the Germans get the ole war machine fired back up. The ruskies may not survive this next run at it.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
7:42 pm

putin knocked off his competition.

When I look into his eyes I see KGB.

Brosephus™

March 23rd, 2013
7:43 pm

Don’t have one; don’t want one.

Hillbilly D

I still have that link you provided ages ago about the reality of the 401k. If only people knew how they were being taken advantage of.

Hillbilly D

March 23rd, 2013
7:45 pm

Brosephus

At least I have one follower. :lol:

When I look into his eyes I see KGB.

So do I; all the more reason to keep an eye on them.

Brosephus™

March 23rd, 2013
7:49 pm

Hillbilly D

It’s just common sense once you look at the facts. It doesn’t hurt when the founder of a mutual fund is the one telling you that compounded costs are going to hurt you. We need more honesty like that. Also, I kinda miss chatting with you, but this place isn’t one I’d frequent too often.

Hillbilly D

March 23rd, 2013
7:52 pm

Brosephus

In seriousness, they’ve got you every way you turn now. We agree the 401k isn’t set up for the person who has it, with the interest rates so low, it’s useless putting your money in the bank, i.e. a secure investment, so that forces people to move their investments into something with a higher risk, even though they might not want to take a risk or be able to afford it. That works to the advantage of the money changers, who win, whether Joe Public makes a profit or loses his ass. You’re screwed anyway you turn.

My uncle, played poker all his life, and though I’m not a poker player, I always remember what he told me, if you get into a game, keep your eyes open to see if the game is straight, if it’s not, take your money and walk out. Wise advice, I think.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
7:53 pm

Gun deaths are shaped by race in America. Whites are far more likely to shoot themselves, and African Americans are far more likely to be shot by someone else.

It’s a 151 to 15, by the way.

Hillbilly D

March 23rd, 2013
7:54 pm

but this place isn’t one I’d frequent too often.

Yeah this place is getting worse by the day; getting like the old place. Nothing good ever lasts, it seems.

Brosephus™

March 23rd, 2013
7:56 pm

Sage advice indeed. As you said, you’re screwed no matter what. The one slim advantage that I have is that my government-run 401k has administrative costs that amout to .03% compared to the industry average of 2% for 401ks. Other than that, my savings are no better or worse than anybody else’s.

I refuse to give someone my money so they can make a fortune off of it without risking a single penny of theirs though. If that means that I work all my life, at least I’ll find something to do that I enjoy.

Hillbilly D

March 23rd, 2013
8:01 pm

I refuse to give someone my money so they can make a fortune off of it without risking a single penny of theirs though.

You take the risk and they get the reward. I’m just an ol’ country boy but it doesn’t make sense to me.

bluecoat

March 23rd, 2013
8:02 pm

Prove your point Aesop’s.xxxxxxxxxxxx That is if you are white…

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
8:05 pm

You sold your soul to the devil, bluecoat, and the devil welched.

Brosephus™

March 23rd, 2013
8:39 pm

Hillbilly D

I read this blog on the regular. I just don’t post very often. I’m at that point over on the other blog as well. I can’t understand how conversation has devolved nowadays. I also think many could use a dose or two of ol’ country boy sense. I know that I find myself leaning on it more and more each day.

Hillbilly D

March 23rd, 2013
8:51 pm

I can’t understand how conversation has devolved nowadays.

Me either. I think the anonymity has a lot to do with it on the net. Hopefully, people don’t act in public like they do on here. That and the fact it’s “an audience”. I believe you have said you used to work retail. One of the truisms of working with the public is that an “irate” customer loves an audience. Get them out of the sight of others, where it’s just you and them trying to solve a problem and they become a totally different person. A lot of that here (and other blogs), I think.

I mainly do a lot of skimming here. Most folks, you know what they’re going to say before they say it, anyway.

Brosephus™

March 23rd, 2013
8:59 pm

Most folks, you know what they’re going to say before they say it, anyway.

Almost to the point that you don’t have to read the comments and you still know who says what in chronological order. Yeah, I spent more than 10 years in retail, and you describe it to a tee. I seriously doubt half the stuff said on the net would even be whispered in public. Most times, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I read what people post.

@@

March 23rd, 2013
9:08 pm

Most folks, you know what they’re going to say before they say it, anyway.

I beg your pardon!

My comments are always fresh.

(ISH)

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
9:08 pm

Here’s our slogan for obozocare -

Federal officials are racing to set up insurance marketplaces, or exchanges, in 33 states — more than they ever expected.

Enrollment begins in six months, and the amount of work to be done is staggering, officials say.

“More than they ever expected.”

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
9:11 pm

It’ll fit anywhere -

You life has gone on “More than they ever expected.” So get with the program and croak.”

Brosephus™

March 23rd, 2013
9:12 pm

@@

Most but not all.

(IWH)

Hillbilly D

March 23rd, 2013
9:18 pm

@@

Just for you. It’s still fresh. (IWH)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s2FOwCfiX4

@@

March 23rd, 2013
9:19 pm

All, Brosephus…ALL!!!!!!!!!

Okay…so I’ve found this near perfect 10 acres with a nice house…it’s in pre-foreclosure. The owner, however, is a convicted child molester. Not sure I wanna pursue that property. I’d always be wonderin’ in which room…..

Wasn’t really lookin’ for a house but DANGIT!!!! My husband doesn’t want a piece of cleared land, and I don’t wanna go through the clearing process. It’s labor intensive. Then ‘ya end up with holes where the tree roots are rotting.

Aaaaaaaargh!!!!!!!!!

Brosephus™

March 23rd, 2013
9:23 pm

@@

I was referring to the people, not your comments.

Hillbilly D

March 23rd, 2013
9:28 pm

Then ‘ya end up with holes where the tree roots are rotting.

There’s a cure for that. Instead of cutting the tree down, get (or hire) a front end loader and push them down. Then you can fill in the holes (or grade it level) and you’re done.

On the other hand, nothing clears the mind like cutting trees. You’ll stay focused……cause it’s dangerous, ’specially to those without much experience.

Hillbilly D

March 23rd, 2013
9:43 pm

I didn’t know Hoyt has a son who sings. Lots of Hoyt in his voice.

http://lifemachineinc.com/MatthewCAxton/song9.html

@@

March 23rd, 2013
9:46 pm

Hillbilly:

Thanks for the Hoyt. I listened to “500 Miles” just to soothe the savage beast within me.

Then you can fill in the holes (or grade it level) and you’re done.

Been there, done that!!!

It’s too labor intensive and once things settle there’s dips. Trying to thin ‘em out harms the ones left standing.

@@

March 23rd, 2013
9:49 pm

I didn’t know Hoyt has a son who sings. Lots of Hoyt in his voice.

ME NEITHER and ABSOLUTELY!

Hillbilly D

March 23rd, 2013
9:54 pm

Trying to thin ‘em out harms the ones left standing.

Not if you do it right. (IWH)

My Daddy grew up in a saw mill (starting at age 5), my Grandpa, 2 great Grandpas, and several uncles were all saw millers, so I got indoctrinated early. Next time you’re at your local Big Orange or Big Blue place and see what they charge for used cross ties, remember that back in the ’40’s, fresh cut oak cross ties sold for 75¢ a piece, delivered to the yard.

I remember Daddy telling me about delivering the ties to the yard and watching them be stacked. He said they had very large men, with a big leather pad on their shoulder, and they would throw the cross ties on their shoulder and tote them up ramps (by themselves, one man, one cross-tie), and they’d be stacked about 15-20′ high. That’s what they did, day in and day out. I’m guessing those guys broke down, long before they ever saw 65. It hasn’t been that long ago, people worked mighty hard with little reward, just to survive.

@@

March 23rd, 2013
10:01 pm

Hillbilly:

For some folks the work IS the reward. What’s the old saying?

“Find a job you love and you’ll never work a day in your life.”

That’s me!

My husband and I helped a neighbor build a retaining wall out of cross ties. One dropped on my husband’s toe. It looks icky to this day.

breckenridge

March 23rd, 2013
10:05 pm

Aesop those who ignore history do so at their own peril. To wit; The Enlightenment in America peaked between 1760 and 1790. That was followed by a religious revival, the 2nd Great Awakening, which lasted from 1790 to 1840. It’s heyday was 1800 to about 1825.

And so it goes, religious ebbs and flows throughout the last 200+ years. The last religious revival in America started about 1975, the catalyst was Roe v Wade. That revival peaked in 2004 with the reelection of GW Bush and ended in 2006. Now we are in a period in which there is a big move away from religion in America. It started in 2007 and history dictates it will last at least another 15 years.

We’re already seeing the effects of this movement at the ballot box with defeats of religious right candidates Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock in the Missouri and Indiana US Senate races last fall. The GOP must have a different platform if it is to remain relevant. No more Rick Santorum, no more Rick Perry, no more Family Research Council, no more Concerned Women for America. All of them, and those like them, have to go. Because ultimately it’s about winning elections and that platform is a complete loser.

Hillbilly D

March 23rd, 2013
10:11 pm

One dropped on my husband’s toe.

You ought not to have done that to his toe.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 23rd, 2013
10:13 pm

You seem to be ignoring 2010.

breckenridge

March 23rd, 2013
10:21 pm

You just keep telling yourself Aesop. Click your heels and spin around 3 times while you’re at it.

A bit of levity…….my favorite quote from the entire 2012 GOP presidential campaign season came from certifiable lunatic Michele Bachmann. On the eve of announcing her candidacy, on June 26th, 2011 in Waterloo, Iowa she told Fox News:

“Well, what I want them to know is just like, John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That’s the kind of spirit that I have, too.”

Well actually Michele, it was just like, John Wayne Gacy that had roots in Waterloo, Iowa. Not John Wayne. Well done indeed.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
10:21 pm

Nothing wrong with this blog.

Just Americans discussing politics.

Civil discourse is boring.

getalife

March 23rd, 2013
10:22 pm

My favorite line was proceed governor.

@@

March 23rd, 2013
10:49 pm

When folks insist on yackin’ it up…drawing attention to themselves, they give themselves away.

It’s AmVet’s Waterloo.

HUGE SCHNIRT!!!!!!

@@

March 23rd, 2013
11:03 pm

And to think….it’s breckenridge/AmVet who wants to sterilize and promote abortion for society’s “liabilities.”

mmmm…mmm…mm

SHAMEFUL bigotry!!!!

@@

March 23rd, 2013
11:09 pm

Goodnight, AmBreck.

breckenridge

March 23rd, 2013
11:33 pm

And to think….it’s breckenridge who wants to sterilize and promote abortion for society’s liabilities. SHAMEFUL bigotry”

Bigotry? I begotry to differ. But yeah, Aesop’s 48% of potential single mothers, I would first of all give them a pass/fail fiscal test. If they pass? No problem, have yourself a great life. If they fail? A 3-step treatment is in order; 1) terminate the pregnancy 2) sterilization 3) track down the worthless stupid loser irresponsible dip who got them pregnant in the first place and sterilize him. I would also sterilize convicted felons before they are released on parole and any stupid loser who gets dragged into court for not paying child support. It’s the fiscally prudent thing to do.

And I don’t want to hear any of this blah blah you’re promoting eugenics blah blah blah oh that’s terrible abortion is murder blah blah blah. That’s nothing but a bunch of liberal claptrap.

bluecoat

March 24th, 2013
12:55 am

The evolved like offbearer at the sawmill.I would think all that would be automatic now.This would be a boring place if all was serious.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

March 24th, 2013
4:34 am

“Not what I said at all. First, the post office isn’t ‘inefficient’. They deliver a letter anywhere in the US for one small price. That’s the hallmark of efficiency.

And if that competition goes away, are you really silly enough to think that UPS will do that for you?”

Cherokee, re: your 2:21.

Here’s the problem with your post. The USPS DOESN’T deliver those letters for one small price. They do it at a loss of billions.

Which we have to make up.

So yes, they are inefficient.

Only a lib would think that losing money would be “efficient”.

Cherokee

March 24th, 2013
7:35 am

Tib you’re wrong.

I know you pride yourself on being wrong, but its still kind of a weird position to take.

The Post Office is hamstrung by Congress – that’s the reason they’re defaulting on payments. Congress is going to likely require them to continue Saturday delivery. Congress is already requring them to prepay their pension obligations, unlike any other similar entity.

Why do they continue to take those acttions? Wingnut politics of course – so that low information voters such as yourself can run around posting blog comments about the evils of government services.

Pretty slick deal, dontcha think? Deliberately try to destroy something, then whine because it’s not doing it’s job.

‘Course, that’s the MO of the Republican Party of NO – evident in our schools, our infrastructure, whatever. Fortunately, a majority of voters saw through the obfuscation last November.

http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/07/20/how-congress-is-killing-the-post-office/

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

March 24th, 2013
7:40 am

Doesn’t matter who is doing the damage, Cherokee, it is STILL government inefficiency.

You just don’t get the obvious, son.

indigo

March 24th, 2013
8:44 am

@@ – 7:19 PM

My initial response was to a comment breckenridge made. I commented AFTER he did.

My response to you WAS an attack on someone who chooses to remain ignorant. Why do you do that?

And why do you think John Wesley, a man living by blind religious faith, knew anything about reason?

And, where did I ever say science could explanin every aspect of human behavior?

So, tell me again you’re not the product of fundamentalist homeschooling because, wherever you went to school, you don’t seem to have learned much besides scripture.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
9:27 am

There are some that have more wisdom than all the scientists in the world, put together -

“What one generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace.”
― John Wesley

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
9:28 am

Thanks for opening this door, indie -

“Unless God has raised you up for this very thing, you will be worn out by the opposition of men and devils. But if God be for you, who can be against you? Are all of them together stronger than God? O be not weary of well doing!”
― John Wesley

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
9:29 am

“Beware you be not swallowed up in books! An ounce of love is worth a pound of knowledge.”
― John Wesley

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
9:30 am

“Vice does not lose its character by becoming fashionable.”
― John Wesley

Got anymore deeply intelligent Christians you’d like to dis?

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
9:52 am

The taxpayer rescue of Fannie and Freddie in September 2008 has cost $137 billion so far. While this has been paid down from an initial $187.5 billion, taxpayers aren’t likely to get their money back anytime soon. Last fall, the regulator charged with overseeing Fannie and Freddie estimated that the taxpayer bill for the companies could be $200 billion by the end of 2015.

So 187 billion collapsed an economy with a GDP of nearly 4 trillion, eh?

Anyone one who believes this is a MORON.

Like I’ve said before, the election by the low info masses of a stark raving socialist madman is what brought up total economic destruction, destruction that isn’t done with us yet.

Even further, the obozobots pinball around talking about the housing market rebounding, so then why isn’t the economy going gangbusters?

indigo

March 24th, 2013
10:28 am

Aesop

Deeply intelligent Christians, like “mature Christian faith” is an oxymoron.

John Wesley’s comments are totally subjective and, as such, cannot be proved or disproved.

Hard scientific evidence, on the other hand, is the only “truth” we can be certain of.

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
10:52 am

“Got anymore deeply intelligent Christians you’d like to dis?”

I would to take this opportunity, since it’s the Sabbath…….well actually the Sabbath is Saturday but close enough……. to slam the millions and millions of Americans who are choosing a sinful lifestyle every day of their lives. I’m talking, of course, about gluttony and the sinful gluttons who stuff their fat faces until they’re so full they have to roll away from the table. I wouldn’t care but they’ve been driving up the cost of my healthcare insurance for years and I’m sick and tired of it. I want to reinstate the draft and ship them all of to Camp Lejeune for basic training, where they’ll stay until they’ve been whipped into shape. And if a few of them find physical exertion so foreign they drop dead of a heart attack that’s too bad, it’s their own fault.

The Bible is very clear on this: fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life. See Phillipians 3:19, Deuteronomy 21:20, Romans 13:14 etc etc etc. And repent you obese sinners, stop catering to the devil.

indigo

March 24th, 2013
11:08 am

breckenridge – 10:52

Fat, drunk and stupid Christians, who are legion, cherry pick their way around those verses.

Rafe Hollister

March 24th, 2013
11:18 am

For those whose default position is to always fall back on Science. Just some of what we know goes on in the scientific community.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/01/worst-science-misdeeds-2012/?pid=5962&viewall=true

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
11:40 am

Rafe Hollister perhaps you, or someone else, can answer this question for me.

It’s about Jesus and the Cleansing of the Temple, certainly one of the more well known episodes in the New Testament. This is of course the only occasion on which Jesus used physical force, when he kicked the money changers to the curb. But Jesus wasn’t the only one who was unhappy with the way the Temple was being run. The Jewish people were constantly complaining about this and rarely did a day pass without some sort of incident there.

At any rate the Cleansing of the Temple is described in all four Gospels. In Matthew, Mark and Luke this incident takes place about a week before Jesus is put to death. However in the Gospel of John it takes place two years before Jesus is crucified. So obviously somebody made a mistake. Is the mistake in the Gospel of John? Or is the error in the Gospels of Mark, Luke and Matthew?

bluecoat

March 24th, 2013
11:44 am

The best and would apply to xx:James 3:6 The tongue is a fire,a world of inequity;so is the tongue among our members,that it defileth the whole body,and setteth on fire the course of nature;and it is set on fire of hell.

indigo

March 24th, 2013
11:55 am

Rafe – 11:18

It’s clear you have only a slight understanding of what science is and is not.

Any time a new scientific theory comes along, the duty of science is to try and prove it wrong. Every new theory has to fight for it’s existence against intense and often bitter criticism. Most new theories turn out to be wrong and the criticism is absolutely necessary to show this. The rare theory which survives the criticism and testing is gradually incorporated into the growing body of scientific knowledge.

This is the way science works. This is the way science stays honest. Skepticism, criticism and testing by scientists around the world eventually canceles out the inevetable human errors shown in your download.

Now, compare that to blind Christian faith which tolerates NO criticism, NO skepticism and NO testing.

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
12:26 pm

Very well stated Indigo. Scientists never say “oh look I’ve found an absolute truth.” They say “here is a theory I developed, I think it’s valid, see if you can break it.” Many, many scientific theories have been disproved over the years. Of course one that hasn’t, one that is rock solid, is the theory of evolution.

I was flipping around on the telly this morning and happened across of the most big fat gluttonous sinners I know of – Pastor John Hagee. He’s getting up in years and is running out of time to repent for his evil, devil worshiping gluttonous ways. I don’t think it’ll happen; when he gets up to the pearly gates he’s probably going to get 2 big thumbs down.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
12:31 pm

@@’s got a point about the ambreck scenario.

@@

March 24th, 2013
12:40 pm

With indigo’s permission, I might add:

“Passion and prejudice govern the world; only under the name of reason. It is our part, by religion and reason joined, to counteract them all we can.”–John Wesley

“Never dream of forcing men into the ways of God. Think yourself, and let think. Use no constraint in matters of religion. Even those who are farthest out of the way never compel to come in by any other means than reason, truth, and love.”–John Wesley

“Though we cannot think alike, may we not love alike? May we not be of one heart, though we are not of one opinion? Without all doubt, we may. Herein all the children of God may unite, notwithstanding these smaller differences.”–John Wesley

“When I was young I was sure of everything. In a few years, having been mistaken a thousand times, I was not half so sure of most things as I was before. At present, I am hardly sure of anything but what God has revealed to me.”–John Wesley

So you mean to tell me, indigo, that science can’t explain human behavior…the least complex among the universe?

I deal with behaviors everyday.

James Blair, Ph.D., studies troubled children as chief of affective cognitive neuroscience unit at the National Institute of Mental Health. When it comes to psychopathic behavior, like that exhibited by those who shot and killed the two innocent babies recently, his conclusion is this:

Blair gives the example of being offered a million dollars to steal an ordinary pen from your office. That’s a lot of money and it’s not even necessarily a crime, so most people wouldn’t rule it out. But if the situation involves shooting someone to get the pen, people who aren’t psychopathic don’t even think before saying no, as moral disgust makes vivid to them the pain of the victim, the loss to the family and the probable punishment.

Sociopaths don’t feel those negatives as intensely. “They’re just not coding aversive consequences as strongly as a normal individual does,” he says.

Psychopaths are devoid of moral disgust. Narcissism plays into it as well. You know….narcissists who believe themselves to be “all knowing”…the center of the universe. While not all narcissists are psychopaths, all psychopaths are narcissistic since they can’t experience empathy.

Just so you know.

schnirt

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
12:44 pm

Yet nobody wants to answer my question about the direct contradiction about the episode at the Temple in the 4 Gospels.

“And I say to ye if thou doth believeth the Bible to be inerrant then thou doth possess an inferior intelligence.”

@@

March 24th, 2013
12:44 pm

Now, compare that to blind Christian faith which tolerates NO criticism

Say WHAT!!??!!

I think we bear up under your criticism quite well, indigo. It’s the inner peace that gives us strength.

Bog on, indigo…bog on.

@@

March 24th, 2013
12:51 pm

Andy:

@@’s got a point about the ambreck scenario.

Not the first time I’ve caught HUGE/Am/Breck. It’s a flaw in his behavior that gives him away. His ego betrays him. He’s gonna whoop us into line or die trying. He can’t resist! Has no self-discipline.

I was surprised that he risked revealing his bigotry though. Under his AmVet persona, he accuses US of what he, himself is guilty.

Too funny!

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
12:52 pm

The breakdown in society, the increase in violence among the young, kids being killed for a pair of sneakers, a boyfriend pouring Drano down the throat of an infant……this is a failure of proper parenting, the failure of parents to instill in their children a basic right and wrong moral code. It not due to the lack of sufficient religious instruction.

Single parents who do every thing they can to ignore their children because it interferes with their selfish lifestyle, teens who have clue about parenting and have no business being parents in the first place……..I could go on and on. But the bottom line is this: if people refuse to act in a responsible manner then it becomes the job of society to take action and force responsibility upon them. Ergo the answer is population control.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
1:00 pm

“population control?”

Now there’s a psychopathic and narcissistic concept all rolled up into one easy to understand uttering.

@@, are you a pyschiatrist?

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
1:02 pm

“He can’t resist! Has no self-discipline.”

Oh I have plenty of self discipline. I’m 6 feet tall and weigh 176 pounds. I’m not filthy disgusting sinful glutton, a devil worshiper who can’t pry himself away from the dinner table. I’m wearing jeans with holes in them and have 15 year old car that I bought new and paid cash for. If I wanted to I could go out tomorrow and buy a dozen brand new Mercedes SL550s and pay cash. Of course I would not do that because I’m not a stupid financially undisciplined loser who thinks he has to keep up with those stupid losers the Joneses.

Any other kinds of discipline you want to talk about today?

@@

March 24th, 2013
1:02 pm

AmBreck:

You’ve pitched YOUR TENT on a slippery slope. I know of no conservative who wants to join you there.

We’ve evolved…you haven’t.

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
1:04 pm

“population control?Now there’s a psychopathic and narcissistic concept all rolled up into one easy to understand uttering.”

Obviously you are for the non-stop expansion of the welfare class that will ultimately destroy this country. And you call yourself a fiscal conservative? You sir are a flaming hypocrite.

getalife

March 24th, 2013
1:06 pm

How are my misinformation voters doing today?

Did Kyle beat Jay in the brackets?

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
1:06 pm

Listen to your party chairman @@:

“Already there is a generational difference within the conservative movement about issues involving the treatment and the rights of gays and for many younger voters, these issues are a gateway into whether the Party is a place they want to be. If our Party is not welcoming and inclusive, young people and increasingly other voters will continue to tune us out.” Reince Priebus, Chairman, Republican National Committee 3-18-2013.

The evangelical agenda goes or the party is toast.

@@

March 24th, 2013
1:11 pm

AmBreck:

About your 1:02. Surely you don’t expect me to take the word of someone who misleads with a name change?

So tell me…how would you deal with people suffering from Prader-Willi Syndrome? Would your “sterilize ‘em” mandate extend to people with disabilities, many of whom are limited in what they can offer to YOUR PERFECT society?

Hitler thought it a GRAND idea.

I’m outta here.

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
1:15 pm

I must be on my way not but since nobody took up my Episode at the Temple question I will tell you this – that is just one of well over 100 direct contradictions in the New Testament. There are many, many fine churches in Atlanta, I’ve a list of some 40 I’ve compiled over the last couple of decades. Almost all of the Protestant faiths are represented – Methodist, Lutheran, Episcopal, and so on and so forth.

However if you choose a church where people get up during the service and raise one or both hands then you are choosing stupidity.

bluecoat

March 24th, 2013
1:34 pm

I tried to read the Bible KJV.In first of Genesis it gives the Cain lineage.Also it gives the Adam lineage(Chapt 4&5)I just got more confused.

Hillbilly D

March 24th, 2013
1:37 pm

Just for general info, small sawmills still have off-bearers. Most everybody has doodle chains now, though.

indigo

March 24th, 2013
2:05 pm

And, narcissists and psychopaths have been studied extensively by neuroscientists who believe genetics and brain chemistry play a pivotal role in this kine of behavior.

Just so you know.

bluecoat

March 24th, 2013
2:07 pm

Offbearer

The packaged automation offbearer can be utilized by mills with a waste conveyor from the headsaw, which runs the full length of the mill.

The automation offbearer uses a wide flat belt over the offbearing rolls, which bears away the slabs and pieces of lumber.

A gap is left between the headsaw and the offbear-belt. Short slabs, and pieces which cannot bridge this gap fall through into the conveyor. If a circular saw is used, the sawhusk is left open also, so that all sawdust, bark, slivers, etc., fall into the conveyor. If a bandmill is used, then a steel slot bed carries this material off into the gap. Long slabs are carried off by the belt and may be disposed of by several different means.
Doodle Duster

indigo

March 24th, 2013
2:07 pm

@@

Go up to your fundamendalist pastor and say you think Christianity needs more skepical criticism.

Then, stand back while he accuses you of being in league with the Devil.

curious

March 24th, 2013
2:11 pm

If Adam and Eve were the first 2, then God either made some more (who are they?) or there has been some serious incest going on.

indigo

March 24th, 2013
2:11 pm

breckinridge

The genealogies given at the start of the Gospels don’t agree, either.

You’d be amazed at the number of true believer Christians here who don’t even know this.

Hillbilly D

March 24th, 2013
2:21 pm

bluecoat @ 2:07

I was speaking of human off-bearers. The large mills I’ve seen, most everything is automated, there.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
2:36 pm

All one has to do is look at all of the total disasters, whether intended or not, wrought upon mankind by liber-socialism, and then check out all the good done by the Church and there’s really nothing else to discuss.

Unless, of course, you’re into population control and other such madness.

indigo

March 24th, 2013
2:45 pm

Aesop – 2:36

Not surprised your fundamentalist homeschooling has left out teaching you about the Spanish Inquisition and all the bloody Catholic vs Protestant European wars.

More people have been tortured and murdered in the name of Christ than in the name of “liber-socialism”.

Hillbilly D

March 24th, 2013
2:51 pm

Millions of people have been killed in the name of freedom, too. Does that make freedom a bad thing?

md

March 24th, 2013
2:56 pm

“Of course I would not do that because I’m not a stupid financially undisciplined loser who thinks he has to keep up with those stupid losers the Joneses.”

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Joneses must be the ones doing ok as it is them all the undisciplined ones are trying to emulate…….

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
3:07 pm

More people have been tortured and murdered in the name of Christ than in the name of “liber-socialism”.

Are you kidding me?

Millions of people have been killed in the name of freedom, too. Does that make freedom a bad thing?

The consequences of leaving Hitler, et al. alone to do their thing would have been far worse.

But then again, it would have been a liberal utopia on Earth, 300 million some Master Race Germans being the only ones left on the planet.

indigo

March 24th, 2013
3:43 pm

Aesop – 3:07

“Are you kidding me” NO, and I’m not surprised your fundamentalist teachers and pastor have made sure you don’t ever learn this.

Hitler was anything but a liberal. The “Master Race” living under NAZI rule would have been a brutal dictatorship life no one would want.

md

March 24th, 2013
3:53 pm

“Hitler was anything but a liberal.”

He came to power as a Liberal/Socialist, then take it from there.

Chavez took about the same route to become an elected dictator……

getalife

March 24th, 2013
4:00 pm

hitler was as far right as you can go.

Occupations, checking papers, genocide, fascism, etc…..

Hillbilly D

March 24th, 2013
4:07 pm

What difference does it make which side of the fence a madman comes from? He’s still a madman.

getalife

March 24th, 2013
4:08 pm

The Arab Spring purging the dictators are humans fighting for their freedom.

Our President believes they have to fight for their freedom not us but we will stop genocide.

It caused our pols to actually listen to the American people so it will not happen here.

Now is the time for the people to unite with the majority to get things done.

getalife

March 24th, 2013
4:10 pm

Facts matter.

getalife

March 24th, 2013
4:13 pm

We fought imperialism, fascism, communism and aq.

Our new threat is cyber attacks.

Hackers will be droned.

indigo

March 24th, 2013
4:28 pm

md – “he came to power as a liberal/socialist”

Did your fundamentalist teachers tell you that?

Hitler was NEVER a liberal nor was he much of a Socialist.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_did_Hitler_rise_to_power

getalife

March 24th, 2013
5:07 pm

Wrong information voters do not get much right.

getalife

March 24th, 2013
5:12 pm

The rise of Germany is troubling as they failed to end their hard right nazi extremists.

They could win power again one day.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
5:16 pm

Watch Oh Dark Thirty when you get a chance, obozo didn’t get obl, the chick did.

No doubt about that, obozo was sending lawyers to intelligence briefings. He’s a punk.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
5:19 pm

No kidding, the low level CIA ops had to threaten obozo with being responsible for NOT getting obl to get him to man up. No wonder liberals hate this movie. No wonder he sent his wife to interfere with the Oscars.

sick

getalife

March 24th, 2013
5:31 pm

Our President shifted focus on aq and took most of them out with drones.

They never stood a chance and real Americans were never scared of aq.

The wars are over, time for peace and prosperity Clinton style.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
6:18 pm

The chick from the CIA should be the president.

bluecoat

March 24th, 2013
6:28 pm

You said the same thing about Elmer Fudd.

Dusty

March 24th, 2013
6:59 pm

Awwwwww ( a screech of despair!)

Kyle was not inviting all the religious crazies out when he mentioned “March Madness”. But here they are ready to direct and demand their direction of everyone’s faith.

If you don’t mind, would you lil’ folks please talk to your local psychiatrist about your great effort to “correct” the faith of others. He is trained to listen to muddled minds.

Anyway, there’s a nice story in the AJC today about an inventor, a man who never gave up, a most lovable man. I am almost ready to buy his great HOTDOG STEAMER which he has so gallantly pursued all these years as an aid to all you hot dog lovers. He never gave up, even wih a garage full of “steamers’ he hasn’t sold and a big debt for trying..

It’s a fine tale (whether you like hot dogs or not.) Read it. You might have a pleasant thought (much needed here) even on this gray, rainy day in Atlanta or wherever you are.

And…. GETALIFE, please eat a hot dog and HUSH! You are over burdening the airways with repetitious political poo’an’perfidy…

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
7:17 pm

Iran’s influence over Mr. Maliki’s government is mounting, thanks in part to the Obama administration’s failure to agree with Baghdad on a stay-on force of U.S. troops. According to U.S. officials, Iraq has been allowing Iran to fly weapons through its airspace to the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad. Repeated appeals from Washington to stop the traffic have gone unheeded, even though the United States is selling Iraq F-16s for its own air force.

It didn’t take the libs very long to lose that war.

Up next, Afghanistan.

MarkV

March 24th, 2013
7:22 pm

Dusty @ 6:59 pm

Dusty,

I was not following the blog too much this weekend, finding at occasional checks most of the posts not worth commenting on. But now I am puzzled at your dig at getalife. Reading his comments on the last two pages, what do you find objectionable?

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
7:38 pm

The US official said it was in Iraq’s interest to prevent the situation in Syria from deteriorating further, particularly as there are fears that al-Qaida-linked extremists may gain a foothold in the country as the Assad regime falters.

Never mind that they are pleading with a country that President George W Bush had total control over, they seem to have forgotten that al qaeda is “on the run.”

morons

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
7:39 pm

When al qaeda attacks American again, which low level government department will obozo blame?

curious

March 24th, 2013
8:04 pm

Aesop is Elmer Fudd; he’ll get that wascaly wabbitt.

However, based on his success rate, he’s probably

Elmer Dud.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
8:08 pm

Xi told Russian students on Saturday: “Strong Chinese-Russian relations … not only answer to our interests but also serve as an important, reliable guarantee of an international strategic balance and peace.”

They punked you liberals.

indigo

March 24th, 2013
8:10 pm

Aesop – 7:17

You’re very generous with the lives of our troops.

I’d bet good money a US Military uniform will never be hanging in your closet.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
8:20 pm

How much money do you have?

bluecoat

March 24th, 2013
8:31 pm

If liberals got punked where does that leave you?

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

March 24th, 2013
8:38 pm

“Reading his comments on the last two pages, what do you find objectionable?”

You mean besides the 4th grade writing skills and constantly repetitive postings?

Like the ones he does three or four times each day, every day?

Who would find that sort of stuff objectionable . . . . . .? :roll:

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
8:42 pm

If liberals got punked where does that leave you?

Laughing at you?

@@

March 24th, 2013
8:51 pm

Andy:

No, I’m not a psychiatrist. My college degree is in Sociology. The behaviors I deal with are those exhibited in the children I work. Certain disorders are accompanied with behaviors.

For indigo, AmBreck and all the other know-it-alls who don’t know squat.

…modern historians of science freely acknowledge the church’s contributions — both theoretical and material — to the Scientific Revolution.

It’s a long list of contributions, people. Feel free to enlighten yourselves or NOT!!!

Makes no difference to me. I know what I know.

^^^ just so you know more than what you’re claiming.

@@

March 24th, 2013
8:55 pm

’scuse me!

the children I work with

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
9:05 pm

“Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Joneses must be the ones doing ok as it is them all the undisciplined ones are trying to emulate…….”

MD you would think to look at them the Joneses are prospering…….big fancy house, two fancy cars, all sorts of glitzy jewelry, the most expensive restaurants every night. But when you look below the surface you’ll find they’re living paycheck to paycheck, have 150K in credit card debt and less than 6K each in retirement savings at the age of 50. But their appearance screams LOOK AT ME! which is their goal, so yeah, on that measure they’re extremely successful.

Had dinner with a buddy and his wife, their 20 year old daughter has been working them for a new purse for a couple of months. I know nothing about purses except Aesop carries one….just kidding. Anyway this particular purse has costs $10,000. Can you believe it? 10 grand for one lousy purse! That’s way way more insane than Michele Bachmann!

I pointed out to the them that if they took 10K and invested it for their daughter in a low cost, aggressive growth mutual fund for 20 years, then moved it to moderate growth for 15 years and finally growth and income for 50 years that 10K would be worth over 1 million when she’s 70 years old. But they’d want to use one of the good, low cost fund shops like T. Rowe Price or Vanguard, not Fidelity because they’re too expensive plus they suck. Granted in 50 years a million won’t buy what it does today but it’s not a bad start. The last 15 years not withstanding money invested in the market doubles on an average of every 7 years.

So I suppose she’ll end up getting the purse. Ain’t that America…..

bluecoat

March 24th, 2013
9:11 pm

As long as you get the message,nothing else matters.

@@

March 24th, 2013
9:13 pm

Totally off topic.

Does anyone here watch Fast & Loud on The Discovery Channel?

Richard Rawlings?

What’s not to like, eh?

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
9:15 pm

MD there is a book, it’s been around awhile, it’s called The Millionaire Next Door. I believe that book should be required reading for every high school student in America. Who is that guy pulling up at the McDonald’s drive-through in his 3 year old Chrysler? Oh that would be Warren Buffett.

@@

March 24th, 2013
9:16 pm

I’ve gotta wonder why AmBreck hangs around with the Joneses if he thinks so little of ‘em.

Tellin’ everyone NOT to hang with the Joneses while he’s hanging with the Joneses.

Alrighty din!!!!

Makes perfect sense. NOT!!!!

@@

March 24th, 2013
9:36 pm

So did any of our intellectual giants read my link at 8:51?

Probably why it got so quiet in here.

I’ll bring it to the fore.

The first person to measure the rate of acceleration of a freely falling body was Father Giambattista Riccioli. The man who has been called the father of Egyptology was Father Athanasius Kircher. Father Roger Boscovich, who has been described as “the greatest genius that Yugoslavia ever produced,” has often been called the father of modern atomic theory. In the sciences it was the Jesuits in particular who distinguished themselves; some 35 craters on the moon, in fact, are named after Jesuit scientists and mathematicians.

By the 18th century, writes historian Jonathan Wright, the Jesuits “had contributed to the development of pendulum clocks, pantographs, barometers, reflecting telescopes, and microscopes, to scientific fields as various as magnetism, optics, and electricity. They observed, in some cases before anyone else, the colored bands on Jupiter’s surface, the Andromeda nebula, and Saturn’s rings. They theorized about the circulation of the blood (independently of Harvey), the theoretical possibility of flight, the way the moon affected the tides, and the wave-like nature of light.”

Their achievements likewise included “star maps of the southern hemisphere, symbolic logic, flood-control measures on the Po and Adige rivers, introducing plus and minus signs into Italian mathematics.”

These were the great opponents of human progress?

Seismology, the study of earthquakes, has been so dominated by Jesuits that it has become known as “the Jesuit science.” It was a Jesuit, Father J.B. Macelwane, who wrote the first seismology textbook in America in 1936. To this day, the American Geophysical Union, which Macelwane once headed, gives an annual medal named after this brilliant priest to a promising young geophysicist.

The Jesuits were also the first to introduce Western science into such far-off places as China and India. In 17th-century China in particular, Jesuits introduced a substantial body of scientific knowledge and a vast array of mental tools for understanding the physical universe, including the Euclidean geometry that made planetary motion comprehensible.

Jesuits made important contributions to the scientific knowledge and infrastructure of other less developed nations not only in Asia but also in Africa and Central and South America. Beginning in the 19th century, these continents saw the opening of Jesuit observatories that studied such fields as astronomy, geomagnetism, meteorology, seismology and solar physics. Such observatories provided these places with accurate time keeping, weather forecasts (particularly important in the cases of hurricanes and typhoons), earthquake risk assessments and cartography.

The early church also institutionalized the care of widows, orphans, the sick and the poor in ways unseen in classical Greece or Rome. Even her harshest critics, from the fourth-century emperor Julian the Apostate all the way to Martin Luther and Voltaire, conceded the church’s enormous contributions to the relief of human misery.

The spirit of Catholic charity — that we help those in need not out of any expectation of reciprocity, but as a pure gift, and that we even help those who might not like us — finds no analogue in classical Greece and Rome, but it is this idea of charity that we continue to embrace today.

An article offered up by one Thomas E. Woods Jr. who has a doctorate in history from Columbia University…the same university that Barack Obama attended.

Just so you all know.

bluecoat

March 24th, 2013
9:37 pm

20 yrs.old now+20 yrs.aggressive+15 yrs. moderate+50 growth & income.The million would go to the heirs.If started at birth probable same results.Aesop would want his made from a sow’s ear.Keeping it in the family.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 24th, 2013
9:42 pm

Yeah, @@, but the liberals invented gay marriage.

I mean, come on, they’re smarter than us.

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
9:48 pm

Homosexuality and gluttony, if you insist on Biblical literalism, are equal sins in the eyes of God.

I’m patiently waiting for the farce that is the Southern Baptist Convention to elevate gluttony to its deserved status.

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
9:51 pm

“20 yrs.old now+20 yrs.aggressive+15 yrs. moderate+50 growth & income.The million would go to the heirs.If started at birth probable same results.Aesop would want his made from a sow’s ear.Keeping it in the family.”

Bluecoat thank you for pointing that out. It was a typo on my part. I meant to say 20 years aggressive growth, 15 years moderate growth, 15 years growth and income.

You can call me old fashioned if you’d like, but these things the have today called “man bags”……no thanks, it’d be just like carrying Aesop’s purse.

breckenridge

March 24th, 2013
10:05 pm

@@ let me clarify something for you in population control plan. There is no provision to kill kids with Down’s Syndrome or any other birth defect. Nor does the plan include autistic children. Or any child that is raised in loving home by responsible parents. And I think you know this, you distorted what I said. What I am opposed to is the expansion of the welfare class, ie a 20 year old uneducated female who thinks “I want a baby, I’ll raise it myself, I don’t necessarily need daddy on the scene. How am I gonna pay for it? Don’t know, I’ll figure that out later.” Of course we know she’ll pay for it. She’ll ask taxpayers for money to raise her child.

There was a lady named Mary…..her last name escapes me. She gave birth to a stillborn child that was horribly deformed. Most people would have some empathy “oh I’m so sorry,” and be encouraging, “you’re young you can try again.” Unfortunately for Mary she was living in Boston and the year was 1635. The Puritan leadership decided she must be possessed by the devil and she was subsequently hanged. So much for empathy.

@@

March 24th, 2013
10:08 pm

Since there’s been no response from our intellectual giants, I can only assume they have no use for facts.

Okey dokey! Not surprising.

AmBreck, be careful lest FAT becomes YOU.

You’re boring everyone with your obsession for FAT.

I’m outta here.

bluecoat

March 25th, 2013
12:16 am

Repetitive? Obozo,obozocare,dummycrats,libs,liberals etc,hundreds of times per day.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 25th, 2013
7:01 am

This refusal, after three propaganda-filled years, to appreciate Obamacare has provoked the media into producing a fresh spate of articles about the public’s ignorance. A typical example can be found in this piece published by the Chicago Tribune: “Today, nearly six in 10 Americans say they still don’t have enough information to understand how the Affordable Care Act will affect them. ——————->Ignorance about the law is even higher among Americans who stand to benefit most.”<—————- In other words, the voters are so many swine before which Obama has placed a shining pearl.

Well, well, aren’t the obozodrones getting testy with the low infos? A low info should be happy that his taxes and premiums went up and the quaility of care and availablity of doctors went down. But no, the low info mass seems to be unhappy with this manna from heaven that obozo doth provide.

So now, the ultimate of ironies, dear leader and his toadies have joined with the Cons in calling you………..stoopid.

Hey, you voted for them, hahahahahaha.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 25th, 2013
7:15 am

As Eric Hoffer taught us, great causes almost invariably evolve, in a straight line, from a justified moral crusade, to a business, to a racket (see the civil rights movement in America). Environmentalism has reached the racket stage, where the folks running the enviro-organizations grossly exaggerate environmental problems and make up new ones (see global warming) in order to keep the members worked up and the money rolling in. They use the most extreme and emotional rhetoric, and are uncivil to anyone or any group that opposes their fantastical agendas, which are based at least as much on left-wing ideology as on concern for the environment.

A racket.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

March 25th, 2013
7:24 am

I don’t know if Kyle was alarmingly prescient in naming this thread for the weekend or not, but it sure meet the definition of “madness”.

@@

March 25th, 2013
8:02 am

AmBreck:

Let me clarify something for YOU.

Children and families dealing with those children often, if not always, receive government assistance.

Children with Downs Syndrome are often obese. I’ve worked with only one such child whose parents were able to restrict her diet keeping her within the normal BMI range. It’s not an easy task.

I’ve listened to those who would argue that special needs children should not be counted among a school’s test scores since they drag them down for the entire school. Some have gone so far as to argue they shouldn’t be admitted to public school because they rob the other students of valuable instruction time.

It’s a slippery slope that you insist on riding down. As far as I’m concerned you can ride alone.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 25th, 2013
3:44 pm

test

More than 145,000 city children — roughly one in five — between 6 and 12 struggle with mental illness or other emotional woes, a new study has found.

The city Health Department’s analysis shows that 6 percent of kids in that age range have been diagnosed with ADHD, depression, bipolar disorder, anxiety and other behavioral problems. That’s 44,000 children.

That’s just the ones they know of.

First of all, would someone like to proclaim that new yorKKK city is a bastion of Conservatism?

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

March 25th, 2013
3:46 pm

test #3

First of all, would someone like to proclaim that new yorKKK city is a bastion of Conservatism?

liberals destroy everything around them, the only things sacred to them are the trees and co-ckroaches. They berate and castigate their children for “harming” the planet. The kids must spend much of their time wondering how they didn’t get aborted. And where their dad’s at. And why mommy shreiks at them for wanting candy or a soda. Don’t do this. Don’t do that. Here, have some condoms. Would you like to change sexes? It’s ok.

pathetic.