More of the same in Obama’s SOTU; Rubio hits the right notes in GOP response

Toward the beginning of his State of the Union address Tuesday night, President Obama said we need a “smarter government,” not a “bigger government.” He then proceeded to request a long wish list of new government programs that make clear that, in his mind, the only smarter government is a bigger one.

So, we would have the federal government providing everything from universal pre-K to a network of manufacturing hubs to rebuilt bridges to refinanced homes — none of which is a bad thing, but also none of which require the involvement of a federal government already well beyond its ability to pay for the things it already tries to do. His assertion that this wish list would not add “a single dime” to the deficit didn’t pass the laugh test, particularly when administration officials after the speech declined to provide cost estimates for the new programs.

One can only guess his proposals won’t add “a single dime” to the deficit because they would, instead, add many billions if not trillions of dollars to it.

But if you missed the speech, fear not. You have heard every thought in it before; it was a pastiche of speeches he’s given over the past four years. I wouldn’t even say last night’s rendition was better than all the other times he’s given it. The only unifying theme was that Washington needs to do more. The only memorable moment came toward the end, when the president employed his familiar cadence of repeating a particular phrase time and again — this time, it was to say the various victims of gun violence he mentioned by name “deserve a vote” on his gun-control proposals. It will have zero effect on policy making. It was campaign-rally, rah-rah stuff.

If you expected anything different, you haven’t been paying attention. If tax dollars are still paying for a White House speechwriter to recycle the same ideas and phrases, then what Americans “deserve” is a refund.

The GOP response from Sen. Marco Rubio was the party’s strongest counter-argument yet during the Obama presidency. If you missed it, you might not see much about it in the news beyond the (admittedly awkward) moment during the middle of it when a clearly parched Rubio reached quickly for a bottle of water. As someone said on Twitter at the time — I lost track of exactly who it was — that’s largely a function of how a speech given to a camera is inherently inferior to one given to a live audience, during which the speaker can pause during applause to take a quick swig. Rubio’s Water(bottle)gate was but the latest reminder of that fact, which has dogged SOTU respondents from both parties for years now.

Those who can look past that moment will find the reasons Republicans are so excited about Rubio as a future presidential candidate. He makes the case for conservative principles with illustrations, and from angles, that are necessary to cast them in their proper light: as principles that can boost Americans of all backgrounds and income levels. This was a case Mitt Romney did not, and perhaps could not, make effectively. Rubio is obviously fluent in conservative ideals and language in a way that neither Romney not John McCain was. His ethnicity is icing on the cake.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

February 13th, 2013
5:54 am

One of the primary reasons I didn’t watch President Incompetent last night, Kyle.

Heard it all before (every speech in the last four years in fact), including the “it won’t add to the deficit” stuff.

The guy is a broken record.

Joel Edge

February 13th, 2013
6:07 am

Same old, same old.
“invests in broad-based growth” = spend.

GB101

February 13th, 2013
6:27 am

I felt bad for Rubio. He had dry mouth and the set up made it awkward for him to get a sip of water. Been there. Should have had a podium with a bottle of water handy, so he could have paused, taken a short sip and resumed.

Aynie Sue

February 13th, 2013
6:36 am

Kyle, we surely didn’t listen to the same speeches.

The President laid out proposals to get America moving in the 21st Century: education, infrastructure improvement, reasonable gun control, and fair pay for work done. These are the things that only government can do, and should do. These things can be financed by eliminating outrageous favors and loopholes in the tax laws, and trimming unnecessary military spending..

Rubio, on the other hand, repeated the stale GOP mantra of smaller government, less revenue. Nothing new, nothing to stimulate a slow economy, nothing to correct the negligence of our young people, nothing to repair and expand our infrastructure, nothing to boost the pay of millions of people who work for wages too low to cover their basic needs.

Rubio is just a pretty young face fronting the ugly, self-serving old curmudgeons who run his political party.

Our country achieved greatness through expansion, not austerity. We can’t save our way out of a sluggish economy; we must invest to put more people to work on useful jobs, which, in turn, will attract private investment in job-creating enterprises. The President knows how. Rubio wants to obstruct progress for no good reason other than a smaller government for a growing and needy population.

JDW

February 13th, 2013
6:39 am

@Kyle…”The GOP response from Sen. Marco Rubio was the party’s strongest counter-argument yet ”

You must have watched the Spanish version and it must have been WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than the English one. Only counter I saw in that speech was the one he crashed into as he bombed. You thought Jindal’s speech was bad a few years ago…Rubio made him look like JFK.

My guess is that Rubio will struggle to break 35% favorables with that performance…

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

February 13th, 2013
6:52 am

Techfan

February 13th, 2013
7:07 am

Obviously Rubio was rebutting a different speech. I know they have to have some talking points set ahead of time but it does seem like they should follow along and make it remotely relate to the speech the President actually gave.

Skip

February 13th, 2013
7:18 am

All this from the guy that thought Newt was the answer.

Scrivener

February 13th, 2013
7:28 am

Too bad the liberals who post here really have nothing substantive to say. That always seems to be the case on these blogs. It’s our guy – great; their guy – terrible. What mindless drivel. Anyway, Obama is losing people’s confidence based on the polls. Most people don’t agree with his policies, which is another reason it was surprising he won re-election. Rubio was very positive and upbeat, and his points were hard to argue with. Being anti-business isn’t helping this country, and we need to have economic policies which encourage hiring and expanding.

willie lynch

February 13th, 2013
7:30 am

“His ethnicity is icing on the cake.”

It doesn’t get much shallower than that. Great piece!

sailfish

February 13th, 2013
7:34 am

Rubio was a dud! Not only that but he made the case for gov’t entitlements quite convincingly like; both his father and mother having medicare and social security for their golden years, like being able to got to college with gov’t assistance, like cubans getting the most preferential immigration assistance, didn’t hear him calling for any cuts there? He really was in over his head and has a ways to go before he is ready for prime time. No amount of boosting by the con world can inflate a rather mediocre performance at best.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

February 13th, 2013
7:36 am

Over the last few years, both parties have worked together to reduce the deficit by more than $2.5 trillion – mostly through spending cuts – obozo

I guess I could be missing something here, but if we “reduced” the deficit, how come it keeps going up?

willie lynch

February 13th, 2013
7:38 am

“…and we need to have economic policies which encourage hiring and expanding.”

I keep hearing this from the party that has held the jobs bill hostage for 3 years now.

For years Israel had said Arafat was the obstacle to peace in the conflict with the Palestinians. Arafat’s been dead for 5 or 6 years and still no peace. This hollow call from Republicans for stronger economic policy is similar in it’s absurdity. If you con’s want to help, step up to the plate, stop whining and help govern.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

February 13th, 2013
7:39 am

“Our country achieved greatness through private sector expansion, not austerity.”

Fixed your historical faux pas, Auntie Sue.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

February 13th, 2013
7:41 am

“we must invest to put more people to work on useful jobs, which, in turn, will attract private investment in job-creating enterprises. The President knows how.”

And he’s proved it in what way that he knows how, Aynie Sue? In his last four years of dismal performance?

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

February 13th, 2013
7:43 am

And it needs to be pointed out that if we need a “smarter government” (and we do), the players we have in place at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. need to leave.

As does about 90% of Congress.

sailfish

February 13th, 2013
7:46 am

tiberius

People like you are part of the problem here, know it all arm chair politicians, your very good at negativity and one liners but you really offer no solutions except to expound your pomposity and high regard for yourself! Come down out of the clouds – you’re not all that, the president is far and above the previous dolt and doing the best he can with a belligerant house.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

February 13th, 2013
7:47 am

“nothing to correct the negligence of our young people,”

Government is in place to do this, Aynie Sue?

Please provide the appropriate passage in the Constitution which gives government that power.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

February 13th, 2013
7:53 am

Sailfish, the problem with people who think they know it all, is that they really tick off those of us who actually do know it all.

And unlike you, I’ve actually served in an elected capacity and didn’t just sit around and arm chair quarterback politicians.

And your issue is that you don’t like the solutions I’ve offered, not that I haven’t offered them.

And to blame the House is disingenuous at best. They’ve at least passed bills. It’s the Senate that hasn’t even bothered to take any of them up. You can’t sign something that hasn’t reached your desk, sailfish, and the ONLY elected body which hasn’t passed anything in almost 3 years now is the Democrat-controlled Senate.

Del

February 13th, 2013
7:53 am

After his rather far-left campaign like speeches during his inaugural address and similar speeches since, I chose not watch him last night. In reading excerpts from his SOTU this mourning its interesting that he now calls stimulus investing. This president is full of himself not full of sound ideas to fix our economy and address the deficit. It will be a long and difficult next four years.

JDW

February 13th, 2013
7:55 am

@Aesop…”I guess I could be missing something here, but if we “reduced” the deficit, how come it keeps going up?”

Yep you missed something…

FY 2009 deficit (Duhbya’s last stand) $1.4 trillion
FY 2013 projected deficit $901 billion

Net improvement $500 billion a year

JDW

February 13th, 2013
7:58 am

@Tiberius…” I’ve actually served in an elected capacity and didn’t just sit around and arm chair quarterback politicians.”

While as I said before, you deserve credit for running…but how did that work out in the end? Shouldn’t that tell you something…other than the voters “just misunderstood” you?

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

February 13th, 2013
8:01 am

“but how did that work out in the end?”

Just fine. Any other stupid questions, JDW?

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

February 13th, 2013
8:04 am

jdw – Oh, I get it, all I have to do is use moron math.

Thanks, but I was looking for the answer to my question.

Still am.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USDebt.png

Cherokee

February 13th, 2013
8:05 am

Too bad the conservatives who post here really have nothing substantive to say. That always seems to be the case on these blogs. It’s our guy – great; their guy – terrible. What mindless drivel. Anyway, Republicans are losing people’s confidence based on the polls. Most people don’t agree with their policies, which is another reason it was surprising they won re-election. Obama was very positive and upbeat, and his points were hard to argue with. Being anti middle class isn’t helping this country, and we need to have economic policies which encourage hiring and expanding.

There, fixed it for you.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

February 13th, 2013
8:10 am

I guess I could be missing something here, but if we “reduced” the deficit, how come it keeps going up?

Yeah, might be best if you leave economics to the adults.

Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!

February 13th, 2013
8:11 am

America needs effective leadership, and new ideas. Obozo’s failed regime offers neither.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

February 13th, 2013
8:12 am

I’ve actually served in an elected capacity

Employee of the month at McDonalds counts?

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

February 13th, 2013
8:14 am

“Over the last few years, both parties have worked together to reduce the deficit by more than $2.5 trillion – mostly through spending cuts – obozo”

President Incompetent-speak for “It could have been worse. If I hadn’t had a GOP Congress that reined me in, I would have spent that $2.5 trillion.”

independent thinker

February 13th, 2013
8:14 am

Can one of the Kenyan marxist bashers please explain why the stupid party had two response?
How awfutl of the Kenyan Marxist to keep praising the troops who are finally coming home from two unfunded wars and to dare talk about assistance for those moocher veterans.

Shame on the Kenyan marxist for thinking a black woman who is 102 years old and obviously a pinko democrat should not have to wait six hours in line to vote -what a dumb marxist statement.
And all those victims of gun violence -lock up all the crazies and throw away the key,and arm everyone including innocent children who are stupid enough to go to school or sit in a playground.
Getting rid of Al-Quaida- heck Bush did that when he put that Mission Accomplished sign and flew a plane onto a carrier.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

February 13th, 2013
8:14 am

“Yeah, might be best if you leave economics to the adults.”

Does this mean you’re leaving us, Finn?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

February 13th, 2013
8:16 am

I chose not watch him last night.

His winning the election still burns?

mwuahahahahahahahahaha

They Mad?
http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/0/7/9/7/3/5/They-Mad-Oh-They-Mad-80939652983.jpeg

Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!

February 13th, 2013
8:17 am

FY 2009 deficit (Duhbya’s last stand) $1.4 trillion
FY 2013 projected deficit $901 billion
———————–

2009 was the end of the recession. It’s four years later. The pre-recession deficits were, what, $200-$300 billion?

Obozo: Miserable failure, and the biggest spender since WWII.

sailfish

February 13th, 2013
8:17 am

tiberius

Good for you! At least you walked the walk, so hats off to anyone who has actually engaged in the process…my issue is that before 2008 not one word was ever uttered about the debt. As soon as obama walks through the door with a crashed economy all of a sudden the debt is the number one key issue and battle cry for the repubs. Well, who the hell put us there? Bush signed every bill and never vetoed any spending until the dems took control in 2007. Every conservative principle was put in place during his reign and the result? Bankrupt america and an economic crash that almost led to another great depression. That was four short years ago, we will not forget and if republicans are still being blamed, well…they damn well deserve it!! Why should we trust them?

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

February 13th, 2013
8:18 am

“Getting rid of Al-Quaida- heck Bush did that when he put that Mission Accomplished sign and flew a plane onto a carrier.”

Uh, no, he didn’t not so independent non-thinker. It correctly signaled the end of offensive operations in the Iraq war, as has been pointed out ad nauseum to you.

SBinF

February 13th, 2013
8:21 am

Poor Rubio, couldn’t even get the lies out. Had to grab for his water just to keep the rest of his rebuttal going. I bet some intern caught hell after that, for putting that delicious and refreshing bottle of water so close, but just out of reach.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

February 13th, 2013
8:21 am

Bush did that when he put that Mission Accomplished sign and flew a plane onto a carrier

Now if someone in our military had been dumb enough to give W the controls on the plane you could have written “flew a plane into a carrier.”

Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!

February 13th, 2013
8:22 am

“before 2008 not one word was ever uttered about the debt”
————————

A laughable, pitiable lie.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

February 13th, 2013
8:22 am

“my issue is that before 2008 not one word was ever uttered about the debt.”

Another statement that is blatantly false, sailfish.

“Well, who the hell put us there?”

Both GOP and Democrat-controlled Congresses and failed Presidential leadership for over 30 years.

“Bush signed every bill and never vetoed any spending until the dems took control in 2007.”

Finally, you’ve made a correct statement.

“Every conservative principle was put in place during his reign”

Not so. Conservative principles are supposed to include smaller government and less spending.

“and the result? Bankrupt america and an economic crash that almost led to another great depression.”

Nope. Lots of things contributed to this mess, and his term of office didn’t help, but to blame him and his policies for this mess is incomplete and sophomoric.

Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!

February 13th, 2013
8:24 am

Leave it to the military-loathing liberal fascists to denigrate our brave sailors and Marines on that aircraft carrier. They most definitely did accomplish their mission.

Real Americans would have been proud.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

February 13th, 2013
8:27 am

Congress passes farm bill over Bush veto
June 18, 2008
Bush vetoes NIH budget increase
By Bob Grant | November 14, 2007
To the administration, the fight is about fiscal restraint. The House and Senate have added about $22 billion to the president’s fiscal 2008 discretionary spending budget, officials say.
“I put Democratic leaders on notice that I will veto bills with excessive levels of spending,” said Mr. Bush in a June 16 radio address.

Poor little libbies – they so “smart” but they haven’t gotten to the chapter on who controls spending in our government yet.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

February 13th, 2013
8:28 am

to blame him and his policies for this mess is incomplete and sophomoric

yes but just as Herbert Hoover is the face of the 1929 crash, W will be the face of both 9/11 and the 2007 disaster. The bookends of his Presidency.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

February 13th, 2013
8:30 am

military loathing?

LOL, we aren’t the ones trying to cut their benefits every chance we get.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

February 13th, 2013
8:31 am

I should add “the bookends of his failed, miserable Presidency.” You could say America went from 1st to worst during those 8 years.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

February 13th, 2013
8:33 am

“You could say America went from 1st to worst during those 8 years.”

No, YOU could, Finn.

I try not to make such stupid statements.

md

February 13th, 2013
8:35 am

“For years Israel had said Arafat was the obstacle to peace in the conflict with the Palestinians. Arafat’s been dead for 5 or 6 years and still no peace.”

Let me help you out a bit on that one….go do some research about the situation after Arafat was gone. Concentrate on the peace deal with Abbas and the actions of Hamas in relation to same. Arafat was a problem, but Hamas is just as big a problem if not bigger. When Abbas got to close to peace, what did Hamas do? They attacked Fatah…..their own side…..and took over Gaza. You really do need to get a handle on the facts before you try to use something as an example.

Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories

February 13th, 2013
8:37 am

Sometimes the goony propaganda can work against you -

2/3/2008 6:08:35 PM ET

WASHINGTON — In the nation’s first-ever $3 trillion budget proposal, President Bush seeks to seal his legacy of promoting a strong defense to fight terrorism and tax cuts to spur the economy. Democrats, who control Congress, are pledging fierce opposition to Bush’s final spending plan — perhaps even until the next president takes office.

The 2009 spending plan sent to Congress on Monday will project huge budget deficits, around $400 billion for this year and next and more than double the 2007 deficit of $163 billion. – Associated Press

Gee, how did we get from $400 billion to 1.4 trillion? Oh yeah, the 800 billion dollar porkulus.

And doesn’t it crack you up, the AP was freaked out shrieking over $400 billion because it was Bush, but they sing like little girls with obozo and 1.4 trillion.

md

February 13th, 2013
8:39 am

“Shame on the Kenyan marxist for thinking a black woman who is 102 years old and obviously a pinko democrat should not have to wait six hours in line to vote -what a dumb marxist statement.”

Because in truth, the choice to wait was hers…..Fl has mail in balloting, and they also have an 8 day early voting period. Anyone, and unfortunately that includes a 102 year old individual that waits until election day to vote brings it on themselves.

Thomas Heyward Jr

February 13th, 2013
8:40 am

“His ethnicity is icing on the cake.”
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And hence…..Rubio…….(open border big government, neo-con) .. the last designated loser of the Republican party.
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Maybe Hillery will appoint him Diversity Czar or something.
.
sad.

Cherokee

February 13th, 2013
8:40 am

Actually it’s good that aesop, tiberius and bailout have Kyle’s blog to come and commiserate…