5:16 pm February 8, 2013, by Kyle Wingfield
For your weekend entertainment pleasure — at least if you’re a nerd like me — I present:
Feels like it needs a bit more, huh? How about:
That’s better.
All joking aside, this is a pretty neat interactive site created by Christine Ries, an economist at Georgia Tech and member of the special council on tax reform which the Legislature created three years ago to produce reform recommendations. Reform recommendations it largely went on to ignore, that is.
But, had those recommendations not largely been ignored, there would be no reason for Tax Reform: The Game. In it, Ries has included several of the recommendations the council made. Players can mix and match them — and see how their choices would affect state revenues.
Here’s a preview of what it looks like, though you’ll have to click through one of the links above to actually play the game:
And if fiscal fun isn’t your idea of a good time this weekend, feel free to use the thread below to discuss other topics.
(H/t to, and more information about the game available at the site of, the Georgia Public Policy Foundation.)
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Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
5:38 pm
When you add future pension obligations it crashes their server.
Centrist
February 8th, 2013
5:42 pm
Does this include unfunded mandates for Obamacare and proposed immigration “reform” (read amnesty) costs?
getalife
February 8th, 2013
5:44 pm
Tax reform is more welfare for the wealthy.
indigo
February 8th, 2013
5:44 pm
Quite honestly, it gives me a headache just thinking about it.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
5:49 pm
The game is just half the equation. What about all the subsidies and breaks they hand out down at the Gold Dome. Didn’t see anything about those in the game.
Dusty
February 8th, 2013
6:06 pm
Awww Kyle, this is about as much fun as going to the dentist. Then the screechy music will start. If things get too raucous, I’ll throw some poetry together and that will run ‘most everybody off.
Anyway, have a nice weekend but don’t go to New England. Unless you like to ski and shovel, that is.
MarkV
February 8th, 2013
6:11 pm
The tax game is cute, but rather pointless for people outside the government. The pie chart if particularly useless – changing percentages of revenue? Thus the only significant result is the impact on the total revenue, which is again useless without a goal and its justification.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
6:28 pm
Well, I see that the hagel nomination is going swimmingly -
“He has the votes, but not much else,” writes Ricks. “His big problem is that no one much wants him running the Pentagon. Congressional Republicans consider him a traitor. Congressional Democrats see him as anti-gay and anti-abortion, undercutting their support for him. And Northeastern Democrats (and some others) worry about his stance on Israel. Democratic support in the Senate appears more dutiful than passionate.”
So get this, the dummycrats know the guy is a disaster but can’t travel off the plantation.
Nice, always do what’s right for the country, er, I mean, party.
F. Sinkwich
February 8th, 2013
6:39 pm
I wonder if O’bozo plays this or something like it.
I’m guessing no.
He doesn’t care.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
6:47 pm
http://www.gocomics.com/fminus?ref=comics#mutable_884904
CC
February 8th, 2013
6:58 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EUzMPlQb2G4
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
7:07 pm
And if fiscal fun isn’t your idea of a good time this weekend, feel free to use the thread below to discuss other topics.
Thanks for the leeway, Kyle. I know that you are a bit more serious about keeping things on topic than your liberal counterpart, but you have to reward your loyal bloggers with some freedom. We had a great time last Fri night here slinging some tunes around. It’s about the only time that the Libs and Cons get along here.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
7:09 pm
Hope that no one else’s heart is broken like mine right now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TtfHkvxao
CC
February 8th, 2013
7:12 pm
“I wonder if O’bozo plays this or something like it.”
Not as long as the printing presses work and there are willing lenders . . .
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
7:33 pm
These guys were a comedy act but they were actually first rate musicians. Check out the chops in this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eYIa9ZTCLQ
td
February 8th, 2013
7:34 pm
Here is a respected article and study that points out what most conservatives have known for sometime and that is the “Community Reinvestment act” and the Dems caused the recession.
“Democrats and the media insist the Community Reinvestment Act, the anti-redlining law beefed up by President Clinton, had nothing to do with the subprime mortgage crisis and recession.
But a new study by the respected National Bureau of Economic Research finds, “Yes, it did. We find that adherence to that act led to riskier lending by banks.”
Added NBER: “There is a clear pattern of increased defaults for loans made by these banks in quarters around the (CRA) exam. Moreover, the effects are larger for loans made within CRA tracts,” or predominantly low-income and minority areas.”
Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/122012-637924-faults-community-reinvestment-act-cra-mortgage-defaults.htm#ixzz2KMDbE7Nw
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Bruno
February 8th, 2013
7:35 pm
Melissa Etheridge says it the best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fxMHHyOtgY
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
7:38 pm
Here is a respected article and study that points out what most conservatives have known for sometime and that is the “Community Reinvestment act” and the Dems caused the recession.
Gotta throw the BS flag on that one, td. The fatal dropping of the lending standards had almost nothing to do with the CRA and had everything to do with greedy bankers and irresponsible consumers.
Sometimes you have to look past politics to see the truth.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
7:39 pm
In my neck of the woods, banks loaning to their developer buddies, for multiple spec houses, at one time, played a large part in the meltdown. They started banks with the intention of selling the bank in two years, so they loaned money like it was candy to make the bank look more attractive to a potential buyer. They wound up getting bit in the ass and taking a lot of folks down with them.
That’s, at least, how it worked up here.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
7:42 pm
Here’s a left-hander who plays upside down (most left-handers reverse the strings, including McCartney). Heck of a singer and great song, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeXydLRaMJg
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
7:46 pm
These guys were a comedy act but they were actually first rate musicians
Back in the 80s, I saw a duo very similar to that. One of the guys looked like Tommy Chong, and his partner looked like Goober. Apparently the Goober looking guy had written some big country hits including (I think) “You’re the Reason God Made Oklahoma” among others. One of their comedy songs set the lyrics from “Green Acres” to the tune “Purple Haze”. Funny as heck. I’ll look through youtube to see if I can find anything more.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
7:50 pm
Bruno
The Geezinslaw Brothers maybe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbmV4TG1DHQ
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
7:50 pm
I saw several versions of “Green Acres” at youtube.
For my buddy HD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPM7FmLtyPs
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
7:52 pm
Bruno @ 7:50
As good a song as has ever been written, to me.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
7:54 pm
The Geezinslaw Brothers maybe?
Wasn’t them, but they are funny as heck. Here’s “Help I’m White and I Can’t Get Down”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NR8no4Fp5Y
td
February 8th, 2013
7:59 pm
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
7:38 pm
Go read the actual study my friend. It is very eye opening and not from a conservative political organization.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
7:59 pm
Here’s a heart-felt speech, followed by a ballad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08nDbtFpVR8
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
8:03 pm
It’s been out for a while, but I just started reading “The Dirt”, which is the story of Motley Crue. Even if you can’t stand their music, the book is interesting as hell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fopNdFMTK7Y
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
8:12 pm
Dr. Benjamin Carson Addresses National Prayer Breakfast, Criticizes Obamacare
This guy goes off the plantation in obozo’s face.
Awesome. You have to see this.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/02/07/dr_benjamin_carson_addresses_national_prayer_breakfast_criticizes_obamacare.html
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
8:14 pm
Go read the actual study my friend. It is very eye opening and not from a conservative political organization.
I looked briefly at the “study”, and it wasn’t comprehensive in any sense of the word. In the end, the CRA based loans were just a drop in the bucket. The vast majority of the bad loans were along the lines of the scenario that HD described in his 7:39. By 2005, everyone and his brother got into the development/construction game, whether they knew what they were doing or not. Money was there for the asking, along with a cadre of dishonest appraisers who would write down whatever number you wanted.
If you want to point to bad legislation that led to the meltdown, the Phil Gramm sponsored bills which were signed into law by Bill Clinton in his last year in office were far more directly responsible.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
8:17 pm
Back to some Clapton. I think HD said he liked this one a while back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKAYGVIkbok
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
8:19 pm
As recently as 2010, Jack Lew, President Obama‘s nominee to be the next secretary of the Treasury, had $56,000 invested in a CitiGroup venture capital fund based in the Cayman Islands’ notorious Ugland House, a building whose mailboxes are home to nearly 19,000 corporate entities, many of them tax shelters.
OK, so does Turbotax have an “invest my money overseas in a fake address account” function that he could have accidentally mashed? No? How about, “the money was stolen by Bush and that’s the last he saw of it?” He sent the check to the wrong address! The dog ate it. That was supposed to be for the hookers. How did it get there? They’ve been looking for it.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
8:22 pm
I’d put Greenspan right up there with Gramm as a villian of the piece. There were others but those two did as much as anybody.
I saw something a while back, forget where, and it was making the point that in the Savings and Loan scandal, about 300-400 people eventually wound up going to jail. In the Great Meltdown, we’ve seen a small potato or two on the local level but not a damn one responsible for the mess, has a thing to worry about as far as ever being prosecuted.
Bruno @ 8:17
One of the better songs off his best album, in my opinion.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
8:25 pm
Bruno – If you didn’t make the bad loans, then the CRA enforcement goons would “lower your score,” which had a serious racial inflection to it. Then, after the loans started failing, the government bought them and put up guarantees on future loans.
Who’s acting irresponsible under these conditions? Who started the free for all? Do you have any idea that the government is STILL pumping the bubble, with our children’s money, no less?
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
8:33 pm
If you didn’t make the bad loans, then the CRA enforcement goons would “lower your score,” which had a serious racial inflection to it. Then, after the loans started failing, the government bought them and put up guarantees on future loans.
Aesop–I understand, but again, that was only a small part of the picture. The vast majority of the loans that went bad had nothing to do with the CRA. According to this article, 80% of the subprime loans were made by banks who either weren’t subject to the CRA, or weren’t subject to inspection.
http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insights/blog/archives/2008/09/community_reinv.html
The bottom line is that you and td are damaging your own credibility here by not looking at the big picture.
CC
February 8th, 2013
8:41 pm
Jesse Jackson Jr. signs plea deal, headed for prison
Jackson’s case is being handled by the US Attorney’s office in Washington DC. While no public announcement is expected today, those with knowledge of the investigation believe the loose ends now deal with Jackson’s wife, former Alderman Sandi Jackson, and whether or not she is ultimately charged.
****
Like father, like son!
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
8:42 pm
I saw something a while back, forget where, and it was making the point that in the Savings and Loan scandal, about 300-400 people eventually wound up going to jail. In the Great Meltdown, we’ve seen a small potato or two on the local level but not a damn one responsible for the mess, has a thing to worry about as far as ever being prosecuted.
HD–In case you missed it, the DOJ recently filed a large civil suit against Standard and Poors for knowingly filing false credit ratings. Although seeing some folks go to jail might be emotionally gratifying, I think getting some of the money back would be more useful in the long run.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/jan-june13/sandp_02-05.html
Just Saying..
February 8th, 2013
8:50 pm
“proposed immigration “reform” (read amnesty) costs?”
You realize immigration reform will pass only with Republican votes…?
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
8:50 pm
Now if you really want to get your dander up, Aesop, you might question the veracity of Leon Panetta’s statement that the US military was unavailable or unable to respond to the Benghazi attacks. My military sources tell me that troops could have been deployed within 30 mins of the beginning of the attack, but they were never ordered into action.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/02/07/panetta-on-benghazi-u-s-military-not-a-911-service/
Of course, the truth will never see the light of day in this matter. The bumbling Repub Senators were more interested in grandstanding than in getting the truth out in the recent House and Senate Hearings. Hillary pretty much made wimps out of them. Pathetic.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
8:51 pm
Bruno @ 8:42
It’s good if they get the money back but still, that’s the company’s money. The guys who running the show need to pay, too. Otherwise, there’s no deterrent, in my view. I’m one of those old farts who believes that deterrence and punishment come before rehabilitation. It needs to hurt, when you do wrong.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 8th, 2013
8:52 pm
Regarding the CRA and what caused the recent unpleasantness. Here is Ann Coulter’s take, she adds some new villains, I have not heard discussed before. Seems everyone has their own take on what caused it and no one accepts the other guys cause, because it doesn’t fit their ideology.
And, if the real causes of 2008’s financial collapse had been reported – in particular, the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 signed into law by Bill Clinton, the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 also signed into law by Bill Clinton, and the easing of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loan qualifications as a result of pressure by the Clinton administration – it’s questionable that Hillary would have beaten McCain
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/02/08/coulter-you-really-wonder-if-democrats-would-win-any-elections-if-we#ixzz2KMXpsrh9
td
February 8th, 2013
8:52 pm
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
8:33 pm
Let us look at the big picture for a moment. The 20% you are talking about was writing loans and making a ton of money and they had invented a way to minimize their risk. Why would not the other 80% of the industry follow the example set by the 20% that was doing it by government sanction?
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
8:53 pm
I wonder if Clapton would have been as big as he became without JJ Cale:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IZ9feKpJkk
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
8:56 pm
Bruno – If you heard there was gold in California……
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 8th, 2013
8:56 pm
From the same Coulter article cited above, about Benghazi.
Host Lawrence Kudlow began the segment by talking about Defense Secretary Leon Panetta’s testimony on Capitol Hill Thursday about President Obama not being around when our consulate was attacked in Benghazi, Libya, last September.
Kudlow then mentioned news reports on Thursday that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton also seemed to be unavailable during the seven hours of the attack.
“So Panetta didn’t talk to the President,” Kudlow said. “Panetta didn’t talk to Hillary Clinton. I don’t know who he talked to. All I know is nobody saved the four people, we didn’t see any American force. What’s up with that?”
I’m guessing that Barry and Hillary were practicing for DWTS together and just didn’t want to be interrupted.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
9:02 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e36rdnO3mrM
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
9:03 pm
they had invented a way to minimize their risk. Why would not the other 80% of the industry follow the example set by the 20% that was doing it by government sanction?
td–If you will reread what you wrote, I can’t see how you’re still blaming the CRA. The mechanisms set in place as referenced by Rafe above allowed the dishonesty to happen. Key point is “allowed”. No one, whether bankers or consumers, was forced to be dishonest. IMO, attempting to politicize this is completely foolish.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
9:06 pm
Bruno – That’s only the Panetta lies that we know about. What about the CIA guy that was on the ground pointing a laser at a target that was never fired upon? Either a drone or a AC130 had to be on station for someone to expose themselves like that, why didn’t it fire? Just a single ten second burst from the AC 130, not even aimed at anything, would have dispersed al qaeda like rats running from a light.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
9:08 pm
Bruno – If you heard there was gold in California……
I don’t know about you, but I was offered pretty much whatever line of credit I wanted by BOA back in the mid 2000s based on my income and credit score. I still chose to be responsible for the most part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDilW50jf50
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
9:08 pm
Bruno
Funny you should mention that. Just the other day I was talking to an ex-banking employee. I was giving basically the same opinion I gave here and the banker person said, “No it was the government’s fault for relaxing the rules”. My question is, all the banker had to do was say no, if they felt a loan was too risky, correct? Let’s be real, all the people involved were riding the gravy train and thought it would never end……..but it always ends.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
9:13 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Hdt7BLDas
td
February 8th, 2013
9:16 pm
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
9:03 pm
The better question is how can you blame business for taking advantage of what the government opened? Is it not true that a company is in business to maximize its return to the investors? The CRA changed the rules of the game (in the name of opening up housing to “everyone” and opened up a whole new market for banks. Yes, they found a way to minimize their risk but then when it was apparent to the government that the methods used had a high risk to the government then the Bush administration went to the Congress multiple times and told them the rules needed to be changed and the Dems (Frank and Dodd) said NO.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
9:18 pm
The mechanisms set in place as referenced by Rafe above allowed the dishonesty to happen.
I can’t believe this Bruno, he must be smoking some serious hemp or something -
The Act instructs the appropriate federal financial supervisory agencies to encourage regulated financial institutions to help meet the credit needs of the local communities in which they are chartered, consistent with safe and sound operation (Section 802.) To enforce the statute, federal regulatory agencies examine banking institutions for CRA compliance, and take this information into consideration when approving applications for new bank branches or for mergers or acquisitions (Section 804.)
The Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 seeks to address discrimination in loans made to individuals and businesses from low and moderate-income neighborhoods.[7] The Act mandates that all banking institutions that receive Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) insurance be evaluated by Federal banking agencies to determine if the bank offers credit (in a manner consistent with safe and sound operation as per Section 802(b) and Section 804(1)) in all communities in which they are chartered to do business.[3] The law does not list specific criteria for evaluating the performance of financial institutions. Rather, it directs that the evaluation process should accommodate the situation and context of each individual institution. Federal regulations dictate agency conduct in evaluating a bank’s compliance in five performance areas, comprising twelve assessment factors. This examination culminates in a rating and a written report that becomes part of the supervisory record for that bank.[8]
Dude, you’ve been eaten up by the propaganda, nobody wants the government running one up their rear ends. And you must not at all understand this doublespeak from the socialists, “lend the money to deadbeats but do it safely.” It doesn’t even make any sense.
td
February 8th, 2013
9:28 pm
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
9:08 pm
I agree that it was greed but it was greed produced by the rules put in place by the Government. There was a great deal of money made by a great deal more people then just the banks during this time.
If you are laying blame on multiple sources then you must also lay blame on the peoples own greed of wanting more then they could afford and they knew it. I bought a house in the earlier 90’s. Went for a loan and was told that I could be approved for a loan that was about 10 times my annual salary at a conventional rate would be 50% of mine and my wife’s net monthly. They also told me about how I could get an interest only loan for the same house that would be about 20% of our net monthly and then could redo the loan in 7 years to a conventional when the price of the house went up.
Only a greedy person that wanted to live outside of their means would have ever taken either one of those loans and how many people did it and then just walked away from the houses after the crash?
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
9:30 pm
I remember frying my brain to this song plenty of times in the late 70s. For a while, Manfred Mann had it going on. Mick Rogers can play the crap out of his guitar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJyb5-7KPu4
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
9:33 pm
Dude, you’ve been eaten up by the propaganda, nobody wants the government running one up their rear ends.
If you want to keep focusing on the tip of the iceberg, have at it.
If you are laying blame on multiple sources then you must also lay blame on the peoples own greed of wanting more then they could afford and they knew it.
Why would you not include greedy, irresponsible consumers into your equation??
Anyway, this is all old news to me.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
9:34 pm
td
In my view, they’re all to blame. The people who loaned the money, the people who took the money, and those who did the pencil whipping. One is just as guilty as the other. They pretty much deserved what they got but the hell of it is, millions of people suffered, who had nothing to do with it.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
9:35 pm
td–Try this one out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLRp0r_l7Ug
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
9:38 pm
The CRA was passed as a result of national pressure to address the deteriorating conditions of American cities—particularly lower-income and minority neighborhoods.[4] Community activists, such as Gale Cincotta of National People’s Action in Chicago, had led the national fight to pass, and later to enforce the Act.
During one of the Congressional hearings addressing the proposed changes in 1995, William A. Niskanen, chair of the Cato Institute, criticized both the 1993 and 1994 sets of proposals for political favoritism in allocating credit, for micromanagement by regulators and for the lack of assurances that banks would not be expected to operate at a loss to achieve CRA compliance.
The Senator also demanded full disclosure of any financial “deals” which community groups had with banks, accusing such groups of “extortion”.[56]
With the passage of the Higher Education Opportunity Act into law, Pub.L. 110–315, on August 14, 2008, each appropriate Federal financial supervisory agency shall now consider, as a factor in assessing and taking into account the record of a financial institution’s CRA compliance, any & all low-cost education loans provided by the financial institution to low-income borrowers.
In 2007, Ben Bernanke suggested further increasing the presence of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in the affordable housing market to help banks fulfill their CRA obligations by providing them with more opportunities to securitize CRA-related loans.[73]
On April 15, 2008, an FDIC official told the same committee that the FDIC was exploring offering incentives for banks to offer low-cost alternatives to payday loans. Doing so would allow them favorable consideration under their Community Reinvestment Act responsibilities. It had recently begun a two-year pilot project with an initial group of 31 banks.
If you can’t see what a disaster this was to the financial system then you don’t want to.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
9:38 pm
Mick Rogers jammin it ^^^^^^^^
I like his style, not overly busy.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
9:45 pm
It’s not about flashy licks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyVj2DRoU34
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
9:47 pm
One last song from MMEB. Sorry for the poor sound quality, but the live version of “Spirits In the Night” is just too good to pass up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7wk7n0i1EM
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
9:56 pm
HD–Hearing some strains of Santana in that Gary Moore song.
td
February 8th, 2013
9:56 pm
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
9:45 pm
Never seen that one before. You could actually feel the guys emotions in his playing. Excellent.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
9:58 pm
Bruno
Yeah that song has always reminded me of Europa.
Probably nobody has ever heard this one. It’s in my old vinyl collection.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kZhDSU8H34
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
February 8th, 2013
9:59 pm
getalife: Tax reform is more welfare for the wealthy.
———-
Mind your own business. Folks who pay no taxes don’t have a say.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
9:59 pm
For the one who will always have my heart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IriEq4H1XSU
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
10:06 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R8xTu68r54
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
10:11 pm
Nite all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xScobZAzMQI
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
10:24 pm
Probably nobody has ever heard this one. It’s in my old vinyl collection.
Well, if we’re going with obscure songs in our vinyl collections, I’m going to have to pull some Brian Eno out for you, HD. I think this was meant to be a love song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yai4bier1oM
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
10:37 pm
Well, since no one else is here, I guess we can shoot for the fringes of sanity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMt1Oy5uQ0w
But Baby’s on fire!
And all the instruments agree that
Her temperature’s rising
But any idiot would know that.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
10:43 pm
Kyle–Your blog will never be the same after tonight. Enossification is almost completed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML5t00ejTmU
Listener’s Tip: You have to play this one backwards to understand the lyrics.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
10:47 pm
One more from “After the Heat”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyLXZGTwQOg
I was just a broken head
I stole the world that others plundered
Now I stumble through the garbage
Slide and tumble, slide and stumble
Thulsa Doom
February 8th, 2013
10:55 pm
Bruno,
I gotta agree with Aesop and td on this. I understand your point that 80% of the lending institutions were not directly under CRA. Its not quite that simple.
From the book I read on the subject HUD began suing some lending institutions who weren’t meeting quotas. And there was other pressures on lenders such as the Feds disallowing expansion of new branches in a couple of cases, the threat of disallowing mergers and acquisitions, etc. And as the article points out I don’t think you had to be directly subject to CRA to be subject to govt intimidation and pressure.
When the Feds started threatening these institutions they were going to start making loans they otherwise hadn’t been making for the previous 100 years. I think it sent a shudder through the industry that cannot be underestimated.
For 100 years banks had a profitable business of making generally safe loans to credit worthy customers. Its not as if they suddenly became greedy in the past decade or so but weren’t greedy in the days of Jaye P. Morgan,Melon, and the robber barons. Something happened that changed the industry. And that something was govt pressure.
Last I think there is a whole list of culprits including individuals, the private sector, Wall St., etc who all bear responsibility.
I’m just saying though that if there was a root cause that got it all rolling it was an ever encroaching govt that began to pressure lending institutions into making loans that they had largely avoided the previous 100 years of home lending.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
10:56 pm
Another love song by Robert Fripp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfwy0BRBc5g
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
11:02 pm
I’m just saying though that if there was a root cause that got it all rolling
TD–The CRA by itself did little. It may have been the initial catalyst, but nothing bad happened from 1977 through 2003 or so.
I think you know me well enough to understand that I think the CRA is crap. I’m not defending it in the least. I’m just criticizing those who can look at a big clusterF like the banking meltdown and put the spotlight on one politically-charged component.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
11:03 pm
My ode to the banking meltdown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0kMtzXjSZo
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
11:07 pm
Hey TD–If you get a chance, invite moonbat betty to come over here sometime. We need some new blood, and I think she’s wasting her time on the lame Bookman blog.
Thulsa Doom
February 8th, 2013
11:09 pm
“It may have been the initial catalyst, but nothing bad happened from 1977 through 2003 or so.”
I know. That’s what I thought. But that’s only because the govt didn’t start enforcing it until political pressure began to mount. And on top of that the article does in fact point out the other laws that strengthened CRA and particularly enforcement.
Like you said there’s still a ton of other blame to go around. I just think that the CRA was the Prime mover that kick started the whole thing. I just had to throw in an homage to Aristotle with that one.
Anyway, good to see ya again. I just got in and thought I would look in chime in a time or 2. Gonna take the pup out in a minute and hit the hay. Been a long and tiring week.
Hell I just read up the comments and realized you are heartbroken over Platinum black I assume. Sorry to hear that man. Hope you get back in the saddle soon.
Thulsa Doom
February 8th, 2013
11:14 pm
Bruno,
She comes over here quite a bit doesn’t she?
I don’t do next door on a Friday night and have barely chimed in there this week. I read the first 20 comments on one thread today and it was exasperating. Just a litany of nothing more than ranting gobbledeegook. Its sad but people would rather repeatedly say stupid stuff like “the smoking gun is in the mushroom cloud” than actually have a discussion. And its the same utter nonsense day after day.
Only thing is I like Jay’s topics better usually than some of the topics Kyle covers. But Kyle has started covering more issues that interest me like economics and fiscal matters and policy.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
11:14 pm
“Fallen Angel”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6CyTtHDpm8
Snow white side streets of cold New York City
Stained with his blood it all went wrong
Sick and tired blue wicked and wild
God only knows for how long
Fallen Angel
Fallen Angel
Thulsa Doom
February 8th, 2013
11:15 pm
Oh. I forgot. I’ll tell Betty.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
11:19 pm
Only thing is I like Jay’s topics better usually than some of the topics Kyle covers. But Kyle has started covering more issues that interest me like economics and fiscal matters and policy.
Kyle has devoted a lot of time to the charter school issue, possibly because he has small children. But, he’s a bright fellow and a credible mouthpiece for conservative topics, so I’m happy to stick around.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
11:22 pm
Alright, TD, you got me mellowed out a bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6W4XV8o7uw
Reminiscences gone astray
Coming back to enjoy the fray
In a tangle of night and daylight sounds. . .
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
11:22 pm
Hell I just read up the comments and realized you are heartbroken over Platinum black
Tough to lose your best friend…….
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
11:24 pm
I can’t imagine how in the world King Crimson came up with this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWAbNIMsveI
Thulsa Doom
February 8th, 2013
11:27 pm
Bruno,
You, jamvet, and King Crimson. I’m just going to have to up and listen to a bunch of his videos one night. Jam sent me a couple of them awhile back and I digged it but never got fully into it. Anyway, I’m calling it a night. I’ll be around more often for sure though. Doomy.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
11:32 pm
You, jamvet, and King Crimson
As a bit of rock trivia, it is reported that the “Red” CD by King Crimson was Kurt Cobain’s favorite, and was found in his CD player after he committed suicide.
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
11:34 pm
“The Night Watch”, an homage to the Rembrandt painting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkyhAbC4YBI
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
11:47 pm
“Confusion will be my epitaph”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48sciFaO9B8
Bruno
February 8th, 2013
11:52 pm
“I Talk To The Wind”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kVNl-9cS9c
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
12:02 am
For the one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95N-jOp8BYE
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
12:13 am
My swan song for the evening:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9bP-LbR8u8
indigo
February 9th, 2013
8:47 am
Aesop – 6:28
Obama has the courage and integrity to nominate a Republican for an important cabinet post.
Do you really think Romney would have put a Democrat in his cabinet, punkie?
indigo
February 9th, 2013
8:49 am
How many broken hearts can relate to this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8NQbnCmwEg
A Simple Man
February 9th, 2013
8:53 am
Remember, if Obama wanted to change the tax structure – he would have done so. He had two years of filibuster proof congress. If he wanted to outlaw blue neckties he could have done so.
Same can be said about Republicans, but they never had all the power Obama had. We have what we have because it’s what they all want. They said a lot of bull, but in the end it’s what they want. It’s power.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
9:18 am
inmdie – Romney would not have picked a moron, like obozo did. So that pretty much answers a big NO to your question.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
February 9th, 2013
9:21 am
indigo: Obama has the courage and integrity to nominate a Republican who thinks just like him for an important cabinet post.
——————-
FIFY. Not impressed.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 9th, 2013
9:39 am
President Incompetent and courage should never be used in the same sentence, unless preceded by the words “has no”.
indigo
February 9th, 2013
9:44 am
Aesop, Barry
You two tools have long since made it clear that, no matter what Obama does, you will trash him relentlessly.
Because of this, nothing you say here is considered of any importance.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
9:48 am
Lil Barry – If I ever say anything that is important to indigent, be sure to dial 911 and have emergency medical services come to the house to see if I’m alright. Thanks.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
February 9th, 2013
9:48 am
Poll: Twice as many voters believe the country is weaker, rather than stronger, since Obama took office. In addition, by a 52-40 percent margin voters think the worst is yet to come on the economy. And more than eight in 10 disagree with the president’s notion that the government doesn’t have a spending problem.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
February 9th, 2013
9:51 am
idigo: You two tools have long since made it clear that, no matter what Obama does, you will trash him relentlessly.
——————————
Nonsense. I fully agree with Obozo’s decision to fully adopt every last bit of Our President Bush’s anti-Islamofascist-terror programs. And I think it’s extremely cool to have a “president” with both a Nobel peace prize and a kill list.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 9th, 2013
9:51 am
“The CRA by itself did little. It may have been the initial catalyst, but nothing bad happened from 1977 through 2003 or so.”
Here’s my take on the CRA. Consider it analogous to building your house with cement that wasn’t allowed to cure properly, then adding another addition or two onto it through the years.
The foundation was never solid to begin with.
For over 30 years, bad paper has been in the system, with mortgages being bought and sold by every originating bank, that bad paper now becoming the basis for investment portfolios that should never have had mortgages in them to begin with (repeal of Glass-Steagall). Add in Fannie and Freddie buying up that bad paper, and you now get the government further involved in the mess.
It had no other direction to go but down.
Enter the greed of the investment community and the stupidity of the consumer, and you get the crash.
Many pieces contributed to this, but with a solid foundation that the CRA removed, we likely would never have gone through this.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
February 9th, 2013
9:52 am
Aesop 9:48 am
————–
Seems odd that idigo so completely dismisses us, and yet cannot help but respond.
Jump, idigo!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 9th, 2013
9:53 am
“nothing you say here is considered of any importance.”
Someone is speaking to the mirror this morning . . . .
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
February 9th, 2013
9:54 am
Tib: Enter the greed of the investment community and the stupidity of the consumer, and you get the crash.
——————-
Don’t forget the greed of the consumer, particularly the McMansion purchasers, the Keeping-up-with-the-Jones-ers, and the house flippers.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 9th, 2013
10:02 am
As I said, many things contributed to this debacle, including the government programs which tried to stimulate home buying and those that kept interest rates artificially lower than the market would eventually bear.
Liberal Pariah
February 9th, 2013
10:19 am
Dr Carson was talking Patriotism at the National Prayer Breakfast. Obama hadn’t a clue what he was talking about
indigo
February 9th, 2013
10:35 am
Barry
The only thing you’re good for here is a contemptuous laugh.
Go dig a hole somewhere and just jump in.
indigo
February 9th, 2013
10:37 am
Aesop – 9:48 “to see if I’m alright”
You have never been “alright”.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
February 9th, 2013
10:40 am
I played a similar budget-balancing game where the player has to decide what spending to cut. When I was done, the game told me I needed to consider lowering taxes because the folks who work for a living were paying too much.
bluecoat
February 9th, 2013
10:59 am
Thulsie got to agree with Aesop,TD,CC,Rafe,and Chip Rogers.Birds of a feather—————–.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
11:17 am
indigo – obozo picked the moron hagel so that when we get smoked by china, obozo can hide behind him and blame Republicans. obozo is a moral coward same as hagel and that’s why he picked a “republican.”
md
February 9th, 2013
11:17 am
” And more than eight in 10 disagree with the president’s notion that the government doesn’t have a spending problem.”
Well, when one campaigns on “taxing the evil rich” and wins, then no, in his mind he does not have a spending problem if there is still revenue in the pockets of those evil rich. It’s an easy game to play one the masses become morally bankrupt…….
md
February 9th, 2013
11:24 am
As for the collapse……I was one of those buying a home during the run-up. It was NOT a difficult process. We sat down and added up our income, then we sat down and added up our expenses, then we did the math to come up with a figuree for a max mortgage payment based on those numbers.
Then we started shopping mortgage companies, and every single one of them told us we qualified for more than our max number……..we bought a house based on what we KNEW we could afford, taking into account the loans we had that were not on any books, etc.
Now, some of you want to point the finger at others for the choices made by the individuals…….which is basically nothing but excuses……..we CHOOSE everything we do, having no will power to buy what we know we can afford is a cop out and MAJOR excuse…….
NOBODY was forced to sign a contract, not a single soul in this country…….
CC
February 9th, 2013
11:44 am
“Now, some of you want to point the finger at others for the choices made by the individuals”
Obozo has resolved that problem. Individual responsibility to live with the consequences of decisions is no longer a factor . . . unless you are a gainfully employed, even marginally successful person, in which case Obozo wants to take what you have earned and give it to the non-producers of the country.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
11:49 am
md – It was the banking industry’s job to verify the ability to repay the loan and even require a 20% down payment, just as they had been doing since the stone ages. Then some wormy liberal in the government said “I have an idea,” which has been the beginning of many disasters all through world history. This idea was to coerce the banking industry to stop requiring buyers to verify income, provide down payments, etc. And if the banking industry did not comply they were publicly labeled racists and denied further business opportunities.
From the consumer side you really need to do some research on the “flipping” aspect of this whole thing. People all of a sudden had access to capital that they could use to acquire several properties, improve them and then make a profit on the resale. How on earth can anyone be blamed for taking an available opportunity and profiting from it? Especially when there is a legal market for the product? Anyway, this snowballed into unrealistic pricing and the snowball came back down the hill. Many people got caught in something they intended to make a profit on or never expected to see the prices drop like they did.
You’re basically saying that people should never strive to better their situation or pass on available legal opportunities.
But anyway, what set all this in motion?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
11:59 am
It looks like New England could use a little “climate change.”
md
February 9th, 2013
12:09 pm
I’m quite familiar with the flipping, and again, it was individuals making risky gambles……the problem as I see it is that these individuals were allowed to walk away and stick the rest of us with the bills.
One of the major problems I see in our society is the element of bankruptcy…..personal and business. It’s a pitiful concept based on the opposite of personal responsibility. If I had it my way, it would stay with an individual/business FOREVER…….all too often people and businesses go on after bankruptcy and actually do quite well for themselves yet rarely have to go back and make good on their debt they walked from…..that needs to be changed.
You borrow it, you pay it back…..end of story.
md
February 9th, 2013
12:13 pm
“How on earth can anyone be blamed for taking an available opportunity and profiting from it?”
And I have no problem with those that took the risk and made a profit……I have a problem with those that took the risk and shifted it to others…….
Hopeful
February 9th, 2013
12:18 pm
Truth I’ve looked for people to take care of my
mother they are so lazy I can run Circles around
them on things to do they have to be told everything to do
can’t they just see what needs to be done!!
MarkV
February 9th, 2013
12:49 pm
It looks like Kyle’s “let y’all have fun on the weekend” is being interpreted by many as a call for opening the gates to all those accumulated grievances against the liberals, “liberal government,” and the President and their imagined incompetence, lack of courage and whatever evil can be imagined by all those people who never get any benefit from the government, have achieved everything without any help, and know the right thing of doing everything. I hope their ignorance will keep making them happy.
Where is Dusty and her poetry when we need her?
bluecoat
February 9th, 2013
12:59 pm
Some could go to New England,spew their hot air,and help others.I suggested this,they refused,afraid he may stay.
getalife
February 9th, 2013
1:03 pm
President Obama’s second term starts off well and he is the most unappreciated President by you cons.
It is time to show him some respect for cleaning up your mess.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
1:17 pm
“As others have, Sen. Hagel has made a nice political living as a Republican trotted out by Democrats to criticize other Republicans. But this fell apart when his [Senate Armed Services Committee] hearing revealed that he’s just not very smart,” Tripplet told the Washington Free Beacon.
I didn’t think it was possible but this hagel stooge has a weaker mind than obozo.
He’s perfect for them.
indigo
February 9th, 2013
1:26 pm
getalife – 1:03
“show him some respect”
Here?
From these loser cons?
Unfortunately, that will never happen.
md
February 9th, 2013
1:27 pm
“have achieved everything without any help”
As if the gov’t is the one providing the assistance…….have to laugh at that notion. The gov’t takes it from businesses and then helps them silly, so yes, they are doing it on their own……you think it’s those that aren’t participating that are doing the helping??
getalife
February 9th, 2013
1:40 pm
After the w disaster, President Obama is the last chance before Americans give up on government.
He is competent in cleaning up w’s mess and setting a good example for future Presidents with no scandals, no collapses, no more occupations, etc….
You cons will never admit these facts but he saved our country and government after the w disaster.
w governed like he paints.
Horrible.
md
February 9th, 2013
1:53 pm
“He is competent in cleaning up w’s mess and setting a good example for future Presidents with no scandals”
And what are you drinking? According to testimony from Panetta and Dempsey the guy and his SS both disappear during the fiasco in Benghazi and some out there think there are no scandals??
The guy dropped the ball or just doesn’t care……any idea which?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 9th, 2013
1:58 pm
And what are you drinking?
Friends of Bill say, “What?”
getalife
February 9th, 2013
2:02 pm
After we are attacked , real Americans unite to show patriotism and resolve.
You cons failed to be real Americans and attacked our President like romney the next day.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
2:09 pm
The same people that went total freakazoid over the outing of a CIA agent who had posed in a lib magazine and was hiding in Washington DC. Tried to bring down the entire government, they did. Devoted every bit of their scrawny, mealy mouthed energy to it, as I recall.
Dead CIA agent? ho hum.
Such patriots. Don’t they make you want to sing the Battle Hymn of the Republic?
getalife
February 9th, 2013
2:13 pm
Outing a CIA agent for political purpose has nothing to do with the attack in Libya.
Your name fits because you spew fairy tales.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
2:16 pm
Clinton should be hung by her neck until dead for her malfeasance and treasonous acts against the Benghazi heroes but instead the libs parade her around on the goebbels broadcasting system like some sort of pagan high priestess, licking her chubby little feets, ew. An American loss always seems to be a liberal victory for some odd reason.
getalife
February 9th, 2013
2:19 pm
Unhinged fairy tale.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
2:20 pm
It was a lib that outed her, get, I wonder what his motives were? Maybe he was just stupid like all the rest of you pinkos? Y’all were out to draw and quarter Cheney over that. Ever wonder why the lib still walks free?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
2:22 pm
Really, though, clinton was rolling over both sides of that chair she was sitting in on the goebbels broadcasting system, it looks as though the michelle obama weight loss program has worked on her too.
getalife
February 9th, 2013
2:23 pm
Take your meds and take a nap con kook.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 9th, 2013
2:30 pm
It was a lib that outed her…
Robert Novak says, “What”?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
2:32 pm
As most of us have long suspected, the man who told Novak about Valerie Plame was Richard Armitage – Slate
Hopeful
February 9th, 2013
2:33 pm
The world is crazy you have to paper Shred everything
caused all those jail birds work at the dumped their aren’t to let you burn them
Once a week then it’s all up in smoked liked it would be faster and safe from crooks
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
2:34 pm
Too bad bookman can’t come over here and protect you bubble dwellers from the truth. I know it must hurt.
press release writer
February 9th, 2013
2:37 pm
Tax reform is the idea … that never seems to move beyond the talking stage—perhaps because half the workforce pays no federal income taxes. See my blog later today for statistics on this: http://www.pressreleasewriter.info
CC
February 9th, 2013
3:01 pm
“It is time to show him some respect”
I know that this will be difficult for you to understand, but respect must be EARNED, and Hussein has done NOTHING to earn my respect. He is at best an incompetent idiot and at worst the agent for the destruction of America.
My total lack of respect for him is only surpassed by my loathing for him.
Now, you may return to looking for your next government check.
getalife
February 9th, 2013
3:11 pm
cc,
What have you done to compare so I can judge you and show you no respect to be fair and balanced.
indigo
February 9th, 2013
3:12 pm
CC – 3:01 “my loathing for him”
translation
“No matter how well Obama does, I will never accept a Black man in the White House. I will trash him every chance I get and pray that my Republicans idols in the House and Senate feel the same way. With luck, they will find some excuse to impeach him and then we can get back to normal with a white man in the White House”.
getalife
February 9th, 2013
3:13 pm
“the truth”
rw media is not credible.
Dusty
February 9th, 2013
3:15 pm
Now comes MarkV at twelve forty five,
Putting in a good word. kicking & alive.
He yearns for peace in the political world.
Where wild punches come in a crazy whirl.
Come now MarkV, don’cha know
There’s love mixed within the flow!
We’re all Americans and thankful for that
But we also love a rousing spat.
So rest your worries and then relax.
Everybody believes in their own facts.
I won’t even mention the mounting debt
So I can say “Cheers 2 U” without regret.
Have a good weekend, ever’body…
getalife
February 9th, 2013
3:17 pm
“Everybody believes in their own facts.”
Facts don’t matter to cons.
I said show him some respect or begone.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 9th, 2013
3:31 pm
As most of us have long suspected, the man who told Novak about Valerie Plame was Richard Armitage – Slate
Bob Dole and Ronnie Reagan say,”What”?
After the end of the Vietnam War Armitage moved to Washington, D.C. to serve as a consultant for the United States Department of Defense. He was almost immediately sent to serve in Tehran, Iran until November 1976. Following that posting, he moved to Bangkok and operated an import/export business in the private sector for the next two years. In 1978, he returned to the U.S. and started working as an aide to Republican Senator Bob Dole.[citation needed]
In late 1980, Armitage became a foreign policy advisor to President-elect Ronald Reagan.
CC
February 9th, 2013
3:33 pm
“translation”
Your ‘translation’ failes miserably, but the quickness with which you assign racist characteristics speaks volumes about you.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 9th, 2013
3:34 pm
Now, you may return to looking for your next government check.
Halibuton says, “What?”
indigo
February 9th, 2013
3:42 pm
CC – 3:33
You’re funny.
(in a pathetic and pitiful way)
md
February 9th, 2013
3:48 pm
“After we are attacked , real Americans unite to show patriotism and resolve.”
I’m just devastated that the “patriotism” card got played so early….or is it the Joker?
Evidently some of us prefer to define “patriotism” as questioning a leader that disappeared for 8 or so hours in a time of crisis and refuses to say why?
The question is Get, why does that not concern you and those like you……it should, regardless of what letter is behind the name of said President.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 9th, 2013
3:51 pm
I’m just devastated that the “patriotism” card got played so early….or is it the Joker?
“Freedom Fries” say, “What?”
MarkV
February 9th, 2013
3:57 pm
Dusty,
Thank you. But yearning “for peace in the political world?” I am not that naïve. Only for a little sanity, which still appears to be too much to ask.
Happy weekend to you.
bluecoat
February 9th, 2013
4:07 pm
we know who is hurting,we know who will hurt for 4 more years,we know Who is President.Any hurting other than your hurt will be the results of the Bush carry over.
getalife
February 9th, 2013
4:14 pm
“Only for a little sanity.”
Sane Republicans are joining the majority .
cons are marginalized.
Thulsa Doom
February 9th, 2013
4:15 pm
Looks like the lame repetitive post bunny has infiltrated the adult table. As predictable as Pavlov’s dog. Looks like a case of the bunny longing to be close to Doom…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87XQKCXfFjQ
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 9th, 2013
4:22 pm
“No matter how well Obama does, I will never accept a man in the White House, who pushes his Obamanist agenda over the welfare of the United States. (Hope you like the correction Indigo)
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 9th, 2013
4:26 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mC1HuUMPxk
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
February 9th, 2013
4:28 pm
Indigo plays the race card. Usually reserved for use by the ignoran – never mind .. .
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 9th, 2013
4:32 pm
I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration, somehow you’re not patriotic, and we should stand up and say, “We are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!”
I like to throw that out anytime some loon starts questioning the patriotism of the folks who think right.
Who said that….. Hillary Clinton Apr 2003.
Sorry if you have seen it posted by me before, but Hillary is right a loyal opposition is vital to America and I have the right to protest a President, who has said so much about how loathsome GWB’s administration was and then does the exact same things he criticized, often to a greater degree. What a pompous, blustering, insincere, devious, hypocritical, incompetent, and loathsome campaigner in chief we have.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
4:36 pm
Bob Dole and Ronnie Reagan say,”What”?
Kamwhack, I mean, chak – You do know what “moderate” means, don’t you?
The United States Senate confirmed him as Deputy Secretary of State on March 23, 2001; he was sworn in three days later. A close associate of Secretary of State Colin Powell, Armitage was regarded, along with Powell, as a moderate within the presidential administration of George W. Bush.
colin powell’s a lib too, by the way.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 9th, 2013
4:38 pm
colin powell’s a lib too, by the way.
Not intended to be a factual statement.
td
February 9th, 2013
4:44 pm
getalife
February 9th, 2013
3:17 pm
“Everybody believes in their own facts.”
Facts don’t matter to cons.
I said show him some respect or begone.
You show the office the respect. If Obama walked into a room I was in then I would immediately stand and show the position of the respect it deserves. I would listen to every word he said and if he spoke to me then I would say yes sir or no sir.
I have NO respect for what the MAN believes in. I think his philosophy of Marxism (no matter how you want to spin it bottom line is what he believes is the same think as what Marx and Engle believed in) is destroying this country and I will fight with everything I have to make sure his agenda is NOT put into effect.
See the difference? BTW: It is not because the color of his skin because I will feel the exact same way when Hillary or Biden runs for office.
CC
February 9th, 2013
4:54 pm
. . . and meanwhile, Hillary has stated:
“We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”
“It’s time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few…… And to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity.”
“(We) …..can’t just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”
“We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own … in order to create this common ground.”
“I certainly think the free-market has failed.”
“I think it’s time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched.”
getalife
February 9th, 2013
5:08 pm
God bless the Obamas and Clintons.
America came roaring back from collapse thanks to these great leaders.
Bow down.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
5:17 pm
40 inches of snow, some lib probably shot his mouth off about “global warming” and got buried in it.
CC
February 9th, 2013
5:34 pm
“40 inches of snow, some lib probably shot his mouth off about “global warming” and got buried in it.”
Libs are already buried . . . in something other than snow and the stench is horrendous.
indigo
February 9th, 2013
5:41 pm
Rafe, Tiberius, Aesop, CC, td
Be thankful your betters allow your drivel to be posted here.
getalife
February 9th, 2013
5:47 pm
President Obama’s last victory set the cons straight and shut them up.
American politics is settling down to sane discourse.
I call on sane Republicans to join the majority to actually solve problems.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 9th, 2013
5:52 pm
Indigo
I saw where this AM, you said we never post anything of significance or something close. If you feel that way, is your time so invaluable that you have nothing better to do than hang out here, reading our “insignificant” postings. I think you hang out here trying to learn from the masters, if not, you need to getalife.
td
February 9th, 2013
6:04 pm
indigo
February 9th, 2013
5:41 pm
Rafe, Tiberius, Aesop, CC, td
Be thankful your betters allow your drivel to be posted here.
Better at what?
CC
February 9th, 2013
6:07 pm
“The Republicans have always represented the job makers, the providers, the builders, the corporations, and the military: the hunters and warriors that kept America safe, strong, productive, and innovative. The Democrats have thrived on those back at the camp: the unions, government employees, the unemployed, the poor, the needy, the old, and the entitled.”
md
February 9th, 2013
6:10 pm
“I call on sane Republicans to join the majority to actually solve problems.”
Ever wondered why your credit card rates went up so high when the borrowing rate is still basically 0%?
Some of those “solutions” from the dems that are going to make things better…….
Numbers-R-US
February 9th, 2013
6:15 pm
“Evidently some of us prefer to define “patriotism” as questioning a leader that disappeared for 8 or so hours in a time of crisis and refuses to say why?”
Nine hours later, Bush finally figured out how to get into that flight suit. Mission Accomplished. What a loser.
Numbers-R-US
February 9th, 2013
6:17 pm
“Ever wondered why your credit card rates went up so high when the borrowing rate is still basically 0%?”
I have found that by paying cash, there are no interest charges.
Numbers-R-US
February 9th, 2013
6:19 pm
What’s for supper, cc? Not more squirrel, I hope. You’re such the hunter.
CC
February 9th, 2013
6:33 pm
“What’s for supper, cc?”
A delicious venison stew is the meal tonight, and there will be plenty left over for tomorrow, too.
It was a great season and the freezer is fully stocked, thanks to dimocrat “assault weapons’!
MarkV
February 9th, 2013
6:38 pm
There are comments that immediately reveal the paucity of reason. One of them is to use labels as substitutes for arguments. For example, by saying that Obama’s “philosophy of Marxism is destroying this country,” the author apparently thinks that by calling someone a Marxist or his philosophy Marxism is a sufficient argument. You do not have to show by evidence and logic that any particular decision or policy is wrong; you just call it Marxism, communism, socialism, fascism, or whatever comes to mind as most derogatory.
Other people make ignorant comments that have no basis in facts, but which may sound convincing to those, who are equally ignorant. For instance, suggesting that the high amount of snow in a snowstorm in New England is somehow evidence against global warming.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 9th, 2013
6:38 pm
Senator Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, then the Finance Committee’s ranking Republican, accused the president of hypocrisy.
“President Obama has been almost obsessively critical of offshore investments,” Mr. Grassley said. “He called Ugland House ‘either the biggest building or the biggest tax scam on record.’ That makes this Cayman Islands investment of his top official and now Treasury secretary nominee worthy of attention. The irony is thick. Members of the Finance Committee will question Mr. Lew about his foreign investments at the hearing.”
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/lews-cayman-islands-fund-a-likely-issue-at-confirmation-hearings/
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
6:44 pm
Only a moron would not see that obozo is a marxist.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 9th, 2013
6:45 pm
Other people make ignorant comments that have no basis in facts, but which may sound convincing to those, who are equally ignorant.
We realize that Mark, but welcome you here anyway.
Liberal Pariah
February 9th, 2013
6:47 pm
Numbers…and the War on Terrorism is over and AQ is finished. HAHAHAH!!
Liberal Pariah
February 9th, 2013
6:49 pm
Anybody that thinks this country is ‘roaring back’ needs to adjust their meds.
CC
February 9th, 2013
6:56 pm
Rafe@6:45:
ROTFLMAO!
md
February 9th, 2013
7:02 pm
“I have found that by paying cash, there are no interest charges.”
And I have found that sometimes carrying a balance comes in handy in times such as these when cash on hand may be the bigger asset…….
If everything goes sideways, I have my cash and the credit card debt may be wiped out as the bank goes under…….
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 9th, 2013
7:06 pm
CC: Thanks! Glad you enjoyed.
LP: AQ on the run that was just election talk, fooling the Obamabots, lifespan on that lie expired on election day. Same with election talk of Benghazi caused by a video, haven’t heard that since he got by the election.
getalife
February 9th, 2013
7:23 pm
The global economy runs on credit.
You should know that by now after the collapse.
You don’t understand the economy so zip it.
The last piece to our recovery is job growth.
The gop wants cuts to make unemployment higher.
We will not listen to this ignorance any longer.
md
February 9th, 2013
7:26 pm
You are a funny little man get…..one that thinks the gov’t is an entity with it’s own money…..that is the part most dems have trouble with. They actually think the gov’t is a stand alone entity capable of taking care of all their whims……
CC
February 9th, 2013
7:28 pm
Numbers-R-US:
It’s Saturday night and here’s a little song with a lot of truth in it for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WwzYhVL5Sc
BADA BING
February 9th, 2013
7:29 pm
Jesse Jackson Jr. reported that he had a Bi-Polar disorder earlier this year. Now it seems like both of them are headed for the Big House, I guess they will be cellmates.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
February 9th, 2013
7:30 pm
We, getalife?
You got a mouse in your pocket?
getalife
February 9th, 2013
7:38 pm
We, the people.
We, the majority.
You are the minority and your party is lost in the wilderness without leaders.
Numbers-R-US
February 9th, 2013
7:39 pm
CC tenderizes his squirrel by emptying a 100-round magazine from his assault rifle into it. Good job. And the lead adds just the right metallic flavor.
Numbers-R-US
February 9th, 2013
7:39 pm
Now I know why md complains about credit card interest rates. He can’t afford to pay cash.
Numbers-R-US
February 9th, 2013
7:40 pm
Numbers…and the War on Terrorism is over and AQ is finished. HAHAHAH!!
Mission Accomplished! HAHAHAH!!
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 9th, 2013
7:41 pm
CNN anchor Deb Feyerick asked Saturday afternoon if an approaching asteroid, which will pass by Earth on February 15, “is an example of, perhaps, global warming?”
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/#ixzz2KS67nsXs
Well, first they tell us that all the snow and ice are caused by global warming, now near misses by asteroids, what is next? Talking about lamestream media!
CC
February 9th, 2013
7:49 pm
“You got a mouse in your pocket?”
The mouse is located right next to his EBC and his welfare check. His Obamaphone is in another pocket.
Real Athens
February 9th, 2013
8:06 pm
From Okemah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLJZMvM2Jac
Hillbilly D
February 9th, 2013
8:12 pm
My Grandpa always told me if you paid cash for something, the only way somebody could take it away from you was by force. He also told me a man with debt can never really be free. I’ve always found that a good path to follow.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
February 9th, 2013
8:13 pm
And what “party” would that be, getalife?
You’re getting as ignorant as Indigo with your uninformed assumptions.
bluecoat
February 9th, 2013
8:14 pm
Yeah!We know people who fought to make him a one term President.Even you don’t need told the results of that.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
8:16 pm
CNN anchor Deb Feyerick asked Saturday afternoon if an approaching asteroid, which will pass by Earth on February 15, “is an example of, perhaps, global warming?”
She’ll probably get a pulitizer prize for that.
Now I’m off to see what color this chick’s hair is.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
8:17 pm
Yep, a blondie.
Isn’t the damn truth that no matter how much liberals want things to change, they always stay the same?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
February 9th, 2013
8:19 pm
Im sure no one will be surprised to learn she’s a blonde. . . .
bluecoat
February 9th, 2013
8:24 pm
The stench you smell could be the venison stew,flavored with chicken litter.Or could be cons.,No there is no Libs,Dems left in GA.I’m surprised you apples don’t have feathers.
md
February 9th, 2013
8:35 pm
“You are the minority and your party is lost in the wilderness without leaders.”
Isn’t that what our misfits keep saying about Al qaeda?
td
February 9th, 2013
8:35 pm
Five latest mass murders:
1: Fort Hood: Registered Democrat/Muslim
2: Columbine: Too young to vote. Both parents were registered Democrats.
3: Virginia Tech: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and his staff
4: Colorado Theater: Registered Democrat. Staff worker on Obama Campaign; Occupy Wall street participate.
5: Newtown: Registered Democrat. Hated Christians.
Maybe being a Democrat should be considered a mental health disorder and no Democrats should be allowed to own guns.
md
February 9th, 2013
8:36 pm
“Now I know why md complains about credit card interest rates. He can’t afford to pay cash.”
Zoom……right over your head……
CC
February 9th, 2013
8:37 pm
Hot the road, double, and don’t come back.
Hillbilly D
February 9th, 2013
8:37 pm
I never claimed to be a scientist (science class in school bored me to tears) but how in tarnation can something in Outer Space be affected by the weather in the atmosphere?
CC
February 9th, 2013
8:40 pm
Hillbilly:
I wondered the same thing and I haven’t a clue!
td
February 9th, 2013
8:43 pm
test
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
February 9th, 2013
8:45 pm
This is how far CNN has degenerated.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
8:47 pm
Nikki Haley, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Susana Martinez, Mia Love, Brian Sandoval, Ted Cruz, Tim Scott, Allen West, Bill Flores, Francisco “Quico” Canseco, Jaime Herrera, Jennifer Carroll, Alveda C. King, J.C. Watts, Gary Franks, Herman Cain.
The White Party!
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
9:06 pm
Don’t know if it’s a first or not, but the Wingfield blog is ahead of the Bookman blog 218-178 posts since Friday night. Go Kyle!!
bluecoat
February 9th, 2013
9:08 pm
You can tell where these DPs slaughter their deers.Looks like a forest service clear cut.
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
9:22 pm
Real Athens–If you’re going to put some Son Volt up, at least pick a decent song, will you??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mnczThKcHk
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
9:27 pm
I never claimed to be a scientist (science class in school bored me to tears) but how in tarnation can something in Outer Space be affected by the weather in the atmosphere?
You never heard of the Butterfly Effect, HD?? You must have fallen asleep during your Chaos Theory classes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
9:28 pm
Another song by the same title. For my old friend Matz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3fs5GBGB08
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
9:37 pm
This may be a little bit dated but yikes, grrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhh -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_r_2KRUvis
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
9:38 pm
Time is never time at all
You can never ever leave without leaving a piece of youth
And our lives are forever changed; we will never be the same
The more you change the less you feel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY342ZN3stU
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
9:41 pm
We don’t even care as restless as we are
We feel the pull in the land of a thousand guilts
And poured cement, lamented and assured
To the lights and towns below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eePRkP1HMYQ
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 9th, 2013
9:49 pm
…but the Wingfield blog is ahead of the Bookman blog 218-178 posts since Friday night. Go Kyle!!
Too funny!
Last 10 threads, it’s 4495 to 2160.
Hillbilly D
February 9th, 2013
9:50 pm
Andy Williams was never really my cup of tea but I happened to see him live about 5 years ago (when he was about 80) and he really surprised me. He had some amazing chops, even at that age.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
9:51 pm
These guys were a bit weird but all we?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7DFsBcVMDA
Hillbilly D
February 9th, 2013
9:51 pm
Last 10 threads, it’s 4495 to 2160.
Yeah but a picture of a fish once got over 2000 hits, over there.
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
9:52 pm
Aesop–Get that weak sh!t out of here. This blog is for rockers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mICybM1sRY
Lay me on the ground
Fly me in the sky
Show me where to look
Tell me what will I find
What will I find?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 9th, 2013
9:54 pm
Yeah but a picture of a fish once got over 2000 hits, over there.
Over 2000 before Paul broke it.
The next year we did over 5000.
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
9:55 pm
Alright, Aesop, you redeemed yourself @ 9:51. Just don’t let it happen again, ok??
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
9:55 pm
These guys were a bit weird but all we?
Insert “aren’t” where I didn’t, jeez
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
9:59 pm
The bookman blog may be the hit count champion but then again, let’s add up the IQ quotient.
Just sayin….
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
10:00 pm
Bruno – Give Andy a chance!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 9th, 2013
10:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueKjFb9eB6k
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
10:01 pm
Back at ya, Aesop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_CcbGjretY
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
10:04 pm
Alright, Bruno, fasten your seat belt -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP4PXQyGR04
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 9th, 2013
10:09 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axHtNfAcJ8o
Liberal Pariah
February 9th, 2013
10:09 pm
Your idiot is twice the idiot of our idiot….
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
10:10 pm
If that wasn’t enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sYPGLnGDfU
I don’t wanna come back down from this cloud
md
February 9th, 2013
10:10 pm
Well, if we are listening to classics then the animals are always in….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwAw9ThDQmk
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
10:12 pm
Better put two seat belts on for this one, A:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA9TVLK1vNs
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
10:16 pm
And I got more -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2qbikc5lUU
Glycerine
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
10:16 pm
Good one @ 10:09, Kamchak.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
10:21 pm
Time to put Bruno out of his misery, er, or something like that –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAqZb52sgpU
Woooooooooooooon’t you come and save me?
Hillbilly D
February 9th, 2013
10:23 pm
Rock and roll you say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ6h0kyqSRk
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
10:28 pm
the animals are always in…
md–Eric Burdon always had that rock-n-roll quality about him, even when he was wearing those ridiculous matching outfits. I saw a video of him from just a few years ago, and he still has it.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 9th, 2013
10:28 pm
And, of course, my favorite-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7PmzdINGZk
Hillbilly D
February 9th, 2013
10:29 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtY9GL8hm2k
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
10:33 pm
Time to put Bruno out of his misery, er, or something like that –
Don’t worry for Bruno. I got nothing that a hot piece of ass can’t fix.
Hillbilly D
February 9th, 2013
10:36 pm
How many rock songs lifted this bass line?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbQa-SsjD0A
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
10:37 pm
HD–Back at your 10:23:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inb1z-qjxIU
md
February 9th, 2013
10:38 pm
And a bit of Styx in light of this rogue cop that needs to see the gallows…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mFVl-jy8fY
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
10:39 pm
In my book, Bo Diddley blazed some trails:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAGoqMZRLB4
Hillbilly D
February 9th, 2013
10:45 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xraIf_cYRQE
Hillbilly D
February 9th, 2013
10:50 pm
The rhythm and general groove of Rock Around the Clock, is the basically the same as this song……
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq86msntH6Y
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
11:07 pm
HD–Not sure if this is your cup of tea, but I love the guitar work on this Les Dudek number:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_Rf3M1J4WI
CC
February 9th, 2013
11:08 pm
“Last 10 threads, it’s 4495 to 2160.”
Libs talk (type) a lot or, in other words, whole lot of talking and damn little productive action.
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
11:14 pm
How about a little “Serenade” from the Steve Miller Band:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KTRpu2E3pw
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
11:25 pm
A tribute for the Blog Band:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw1bHaUk1CM
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
11:29 pm
Love is a burning thing
And it makes a fiery ring
Bound by wild desire
I fell in to a ring of fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehhXtGEd5qM
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
11:36 pm
He’s a poet he’s a picker he’s a prophet he’s a pusher
He’s a pilgrim and a preacher and a problem when he’s stoned
He’s a walking contradiction partly truth and partly fiction
Taking every wrong direction on his lonely way back home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMVUILVM0Xw
Bruno
February 9th, 2013
11:42 pm
But dreaming was as easy
As believing it was never gonna end
Loving her was easier
Than anything I’ll ever do again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztuXo9BuNAk
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
8:34 am
“Every moonbat wakes up in the morning hoping this is the day he gets to inconvenience, or hector, or lecture somebody else, preferably some “bitter clingers” who have to work for a living.” – Howie Carr of the Boston Herald
Truer words were never spoken.
indigo
February 10th, 2013
8:40 am
Tiberius – 8:34
More fluff from the home school boy who has never had to work a day in his life.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
8:47 am
Indigo @ 8:40
More incorrect assumptions from the leg-humper who has never posted anything deemed factual in his life on this blog.
indigo
February 10th, 2013
9:03 am
Tiberius – “more incorrect assumptions”
And yet, you’re able to post nonsense here all day, every day.
Give it up boy.
You’re not fooling anyone.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
9:07 am
At least indigo knows she’s a moonbat.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
February 10th, 2013
9:15 am
A taker using the “never worked a day in your life” putdown: Priceless.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
9:26 am
Indigo, you are always free to debunk any facts or challenge any opinion I have with a counter argument.
Your problem is that you never have one.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
9:41 am
Dick Cheney, a Wyoming native, said it was vital to the nation’s national security that “good folks” hold the positions of secretary of state, CIA director and secretary of defense.
“Frankly, what he has appointed are second-rate people,” he said.
He forgot “president.”
JamVet
February 10th, 2013
9:45 am
The third rate R. Cheney berating second rate people is pretty ironic. And if not for his staggering record of deadly incompetence would be rather funny…
CC
February 10th, 2013
10:02 am
“his staggering record of deadly incompetence”
I’m sure that you can offer some proof of your statement or is this just more of your mindless meandering?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
10:05 am
Cheney said Hagel, a former Nebraska U.S. senator, was chosen because Obama “wants to have a Republican that he can use to take the heat for what he plans to do to the Department of Defense.”
And makes obozo a moral coward. You can’t put it more succinctly than that. The dude wants to form the Department of Peace and throw all the nukes in the garbage but he knows the only people that will approve of that will be the Chinese. So then we’ll have this pos obozo “I had no idea he gave all our nukes to egypt” or “I didn’t listen to the sermons.”
FH.
CC
February 10th, 2013
10:11 am
I note that indigi once again has her panties in a wad about something . . .
Her Obamaphone must have run out of minutes.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 10th, 2013
10:37 am
I guess Barry wants to use the money from DOD cuts to fund his “healthy Home for everyone” initiative. First they feed, provide welfare and unemployment compensation, then provide housing assistance, then insure, provide free phones and internet, and now a nice house, and we are left to wonder what wonderful thing the big government Obamanist will come up with next, now that the “basics” are covered.
I’m guessing fashion. I am sure they see the need to keep everyone up to date fashion wise, it not being fair that a child has to go to school with a pair of generic tennie runners on, while the affluent sport the latest Nike’s. If they want to make everyone alike and equal it would be cheaper to emulate the old PRC model. Give everyone a little blue coolie suit, hat, bicycle and assign us to a filing cabinet styled apartment, but hey we are America, we can do better than that. Our grandchildren can afford it.
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
10:43 am
Cheney then Cheney now.A man that I would be afraid to bird hunt with,much less take his opinion as science.Must be afraid Iran will not be as lucrative for Halliburton………….
moonbat betty
February 10th, 2013
10:49 am
Looks like all the fun is being had over here.
Bruno, I’ll have to check in over here more often. Catch you on the flip side.
Indigo is always a hatin’ about something or somebody.
Gotta, hand it to her though…She is an equal opportunity offender.
Have a good day, all.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
10:53 am
Anybody is welcome to dispute the man on the observation he made. Which of you sneering libs would like to argue that chuck hagel has more sense about him than a potted plant does?
CC
February 10th, 2013
10:55 am
Rafe:
“I’m guessing fashion.”
The latest Nike offering?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
10:58 am
Wow, an AmVet post that didn’t have to do with music.
How long did his self-imposed ban last? Two weeks? Three?
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
11:01 am
In some ways Hagel typical republican.Otherwise pretty normal.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
11:05 am
I have a hard time zeroing in on what Chuck Hagel believes.
I have no trouble figuring out what he actually knows.
Not much.
He’s the perfect Obama nominee.
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
11:16 am
Say what,Boy.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
February 10th, 2013
11:17 am
“He’s the perfect Obama nominee.”
—————-
Yup. Like most intellectual weaklings posing as leaders, Obozo doesn’t want anyone smarter than he in his administration.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 10th, 2013
11:25 am
Hagel said at the confirmation hearings that he didn’t see himself occupying a policy making position. Obama had already told him who makes the decisions for the Obama regime. Hagel just wants to be the gofer.
After 2008, Obama kept talking about a cabinet of equals, like Lincoln had. I guess he couldn’t find any equals, to his own imagined brilliance; so he is just giving up the pretense this time, sycophants only need apply.
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
11:26 am
Ought to name him Dumb Dubya.
JamVet
February 10th, 2013
11:28 am
Music it is, then!
For Dave and his famous Sunspot Theory…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujTTjt5VkZM
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
11:32 am
Then AmVet comes back with a clear violation of the rules.
Is he looking for a not so self-imposed ban?
CC
February 10th, 2013
11:32 am
“Yup. Like most intellectual weaklings posing as leaders, Obozo doesn’t want anyone smarter than he in his administration.”
That explains why the average IQ of Team Obama is lower than room temperature. It is a difficult task to locate that many people who have undergone lobotomies making them only very slightly intellectually inferior to Hussein.
JamVet
February 10th, 2013
11:36 am
Another for our constitutional scholar…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtDAK7Umk7A
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
11:37 am
When did hagel become a Republican????
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
11:41 am
Or should I say, ANOTHER not so self-imposed ban?
JamVet
February 10th, 2013
11:51 am
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record:
Rated 100% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-life stance:
YES on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion:
YES on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP:
YES on banning partial birth abortions:
YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions
Rated 11% by the NAACP, indicating an anti-affirmative-action stance:
YES on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business:
NO on prohibiting same-sex basic training:
NO on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women:
Rated 0% by the HRC, indicating an anti-gay-rights stance:
NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation:
Supports anti-flag desecration amendment: Favors topic 4
Rated 100% by the Christian Coalition: a pro-family voting record:
Rated 0% by the AU, indicating opposition to church-state separation:
YES on killing restrictions on violent videos to minors:
NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes:
Rated A by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun rights voting record:
YES on school vouchers in DC:
Rated 0% by the LCV, indicating anti-environment votes:
YES on increasing penalties for drug offenses:
Rated 78% by NTU, indicating a “Taxpayer’s Friend” on tax votes:
Rated 0% by the CTJ, indicating opposition to progressive taxation:
YES on raising the Death Tax exemption to $5M from $1M:
YES on limit welfare for immigrants:
YES on building a fence along the Mexican border:
YES on declaring English as the official language of the US government:
NO on favoring 1997 McCain-Feingold overhaul of campaign finance:
NO on banning campaign donations from corporations:
NO on requiring FISA court warrant to monitor US-to-foreign calls:
Our current Iraq policy is not worthy of soldiers’ sacrifice:
Iraq was a war of choice, like Vietnam:
Ignorance is not an asset…
And quit taking liberties with my name!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1c2OfAzDTI
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
11:54 am
Looks like all the fun is being had over here.
Bruno, I’ll have to check in over here more often. Catch you on the flip side.
Big hello to moonbat betty. Looking forward to swapping some tunes with ya. Bookman’s FNM is passe.
Music it is, then!
One of Harrison’s best compositions, IMO:
Music it is, then!
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
11:55 am
Oops, didn’t change my copy/paste content. Here’s the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y9W8tgXKQU
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
11:59 am
More Beatles for breakfast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b00VTswskFI
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
12:06 pm
This song reminds me of walls melting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaRmyUrEu4I
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
12:07 pm
My brother (who appreciates music much more than I do), found this video highlighting a lost guitar solo by George Harrison that never made it into the final version of ‘Here Comes The Sun’.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1RxdeqxF-U
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
12:09 pm
Hagel is a vocal supporter of Global Zero, a group formed in Paris in 2008 that promotes eliminating nuclear weapons.
uh huh
CC
February 10th, 2013
12:09 pm
JamVet@11:51:
If Cheney were a little younger and his health was better, I’d support him for President. Thank you for posting his excellent qualifications!
We are in desperate need of a President now and could use such a well-qualified person as Vice-President Cheney!
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
12:16 pm
More walls melting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFrpclWP3eQ
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
12:18 pm
My brother (who appreciates music much more than I do), found this video highlighting a lost guitar solo by George Harrison that never made it into the final version of ‘Here Comes The Sun’.
Awesome, Tib.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
12:21 pm
One of Jerry Garcia’s favorite songs, and a staple of the Jerry Garcia Band shows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ppmdvXsMBE
JamVet
February 10th, 2013
12:35 pm
Thank you for posting his excellent qualifications!
Wow. How humiliating for you.
Those were Hagel’s postilions on various issues.
B, it’s now time for brunch with the Beatles!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVzLg6UrqiQ
indigo
February 10th, 2013
12:36 pm
CC – “I’d support…Cheney for President”
That is precisely the kind of dumbass remark I’d expect from a simple tool like you.
getalife
February 10th, 2013
12:48 pm
cheney knows about failure.
8 years of it.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
12:58 pm
How can anyone believe an assessment of another person by someone who claims that “America has come roaring back” during President Incompetent’s term of office?
MarkV
February 10th, 2013
1:04 pm
“Hagel is a vocal supporter of Global Zero, a group formed in Paris in 2008 that promotes eliminating nuclear weapons.”
Descendants of Ronald Reagan?
Numbers-R-US
February 10th, 2013
1:13 pm
Did Dick and George ever kiss and make up.
CC
February 10th, 2013
1:20 pm
“That is precisely the kind of dumbass remark I’d expect from a simple tool like you.”
Her is upset . . . again. What’s wrong now? Did someone steal your EBC?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
1:21 pm
I see that no one has come to the defense of hagel’s intellect, I wonder why?
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
1:37 pm
Not sure if this is your cup of tea,
Dude, you’re seriously underestimating the eclectic nature of my musical perspective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7lagdi1U6Y
indigo
February 10th, 2013
1:39 pm
Tiberius – 12:58 – “America has come roaring back”
For once I agree with you. Anyone who believes that would probably believe Russia and China really want to be best friends with the US.
indigo
February 10th, 2013
1:40 pm
CC
What is EBC?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
1:53 pm
For once I agree with you. Anyone who believes that would probably believe Russia and China really want to be best friends with the US.
Damn, indie, did you get struck by lightning or something?
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
1:56 pm
Obama and democrats outsmart Mittens and republicans.only bleeding hearts will dispute this.4 more please.Hagel’s own party should defend his intellect.He was to be a tool for President Obama tools like guns do not think.typ.pug.
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
1:59 pm
You got to be a real old-timer to remember this guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F49F0nezIms
CC
February 10th, 2013
2:02 pm
“Damn, indie, did you get struck by lightning or something?”
No need for alarm here. She’s just reaping the benefits of associating with conservatives. There may be hope for her yet!
Dusty
February 10th, 2013
2:13 pm
Well, did someone mention Cheney? Yes they did and they should. Cheney has devoted most of his life working for the USA and doing it exceedingly well. Not only is he superbly intelligent and honest, he is not afraid of anyone. When he speaks, everyone listens because they know it is a truthful appraisal without political adjustments.
That is so much missed in Washington.
Cheney got it right again in the last speech I’ve seen published. He denounced the latest nominees put out for appointment to the Obama cabinet. Second rate people, he said, referring to their abilities and records.
When we look at Kerry’s high speed Purple Heart Persuasion and Medal throwing, there’s plenty of doubt about being first rate. And Hagel begins to look like a wishy washy change-my-mind sorta person. Surely there is someone around with stronger minds and experiences.
As usual, Cheney is right on mark. Truman would love him. . .
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
2:23 pm
Dusty
Don’t know if you saw it but I answered your water question at the end of that thread, a couple back.
The Camellias have been blooming up here for a while and the jonquils are starting to bloom now.
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
2:28 pm
CC you ain’t over near the hospital are you?
Dusty
February 10th, 2013
2:41 pm
HillBilly,
I think the last one I read was the water basin one. I wondered if two water basins, Ocmulgee and Appilachicola ( I think) adjoining Atlanta could be a source of water for us big drinkers?? Of water, that is.
I haven’t talked to my more informed son (geology) to find out his thoughts. .I surely do appreciate your information. That made this water problem a lot more interesting. Thank you.
Camellias! I carried a big bouquet of white blooms to church this week. That cold snap had browned up a lot of them but I found some pretty ones. They are always a hit. My white ones bloom after most of the pink and rose ones are gone. My daffodils are kinda scrawny but I’ve seen some big yellow ones bursting out elsewhere. Early spring? What did the groundhog predict?
.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
3:07 pm
You got to be a real old-timer to remember this guy.
Jeez–rub it in, will you, HD???
CC
February 10th, 2013
3:20 pm
Getting cloudy here and looks like rain is on the way . . . for the next three days! Can’t dampen my feelings, though. I’m a grandpa . . . again!
CC
February 10th, 2013
3:24 pm
Some ‘rainy’ music for y’all . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-es4Q8AJaU
indigo
February 10th, 2013
3:25 pm
Aesop – 1:53
I don’t know. Maybe I was abducted by aliens.
getalife
February 10th, 2013
3:36 pm
The blogs are eerily quiet because government is not screwing up like the gop.
These are good blogging times.
Even the cons are playing music instead of lying about our President.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
3:41 pm
I vote for “No Rain”, CC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNny8w18QOs
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
3:44 pm
The blogs are eerily quiet because government is not screwing up like the gop.
You got any more of whatever you’re taking/smoking, getalife?? I figure it must require some pretty heavy drugs to think we’re somehow on the right track. But, then again, what do you care?? It’s not going to be me or you who has to pay back all of this money we’re borrowing.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
3:45 pm
(Reuters) – Egypt’s ruling Muslim Brotherhood has nominated one of its senior leaders for the influential position of grand mufti, the nation’s top cleric, defying critics who accuse the Islamist group of seeking to dominate all institutions.
Yes, good blogging times.
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
3:46 pm
Looks as if the groundhog better at predicting weather than the ones predicting a win in Nov,2012.Rub the salt in,,,,
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
3:46 pm
After further though, CC, I guess that we can’t change the weather. “Let It Rain”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi3WxjnjJ80
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
3:47 pm
The new health law rules provide leeway for insurers to charge smokers thousands of dollars more for coverage. They impose a $63 per-head fee on insurance plans – a charge that probably will be passed on to policyholders – to cushion the cost of covering people with medical problems.
Yes, good blogging times.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
3:48 pm
Looks as if the groundhog is better at typing complete sentences than bluecoat is . . .
CC
February 10th, 2013
3:50 pm
Bruno:
Unfortunately we don’t get to vote!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4wVqMXcu8E is what’s coming!
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
3:50 pm
Looks as if the groundhog better at predicting weather than the ones predicting a win in Nov,2012.Rub the salt in,,,,
bluecoat–I can only guess at what place in life you must be that it brings you satisfaction to gloat on a blog about who won an election. Must be tough to go through life as a total loser, however, so I’ll try to give you some slack…..
CC
February 10th, 2013
3:55 pm
“Looks as if the groundhog is better at typing complete sentences than bluecoat is . . .”
Tiberius, you are a master of understatement!
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
3:55 pm
CC–”A Hard Rain Is Going To Fall”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4sMSSm0×2A
CC
February 10th, 2013
3:57 pm
“I can only guess at what place in life you must be that it brings you satisfaction to gloat on a blog about who won an election”
Aww . . . quit pickin’ on getalife!
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
4:02 pm
I know it’s February, but it sure feels like a “November Rain”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGpqZSmpqDA
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
4:06 pm
sho enough proud of our President.
indigo
February 10th, 2013
4:07 pm
Aesop – 3:47
Maybe that will get those old smokers to quit.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
4:12 pm
I was thinking about traveling up to Atlanta tonight, but since my tires now have 105,000 miles on them, it might be hard to get any “Traction In The Rain”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcEyPuMGyEQ
If any of you haven’t heard this David Crosby song before, it’s pretty cool ^^^^^^^^
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
4:17 pm
I guess I’ll just be one of many “Riders On The Storm” tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_ApzhHYIgU
LOL–Who knew that ol Snoop Doog was a big Doors fan?? Just checking to see how “eclectic” HD really is.
MarkV
February 10th, 2013
4:22 pm
Dusty @ 2:13 pm
“When we look at Kerry’s high speed Purple Heart Persuasion and Medal throwing, there’s plenty of doubt about being first rate.”
Dusty,
I am used to people making all kinds of accusation and insulting remarks for political reasons. But there are some limits that decent people do not cross. That is what you have done with the statement above.
“When we look …” So you have looked, have you? And you have evidence for you insulting “doubts?” Perhaps you have also doubts about Hagel’s decorations? Have you no shame at all?
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
4:23 pm
Somehow I think this one is more up HD’s alley. “Kentucky Rain” by the King:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmbmrE-K9dk
CC
February 10th, 2013
4:24 pm
. . . but can we stop it, Bruno?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIPan-rEQJA
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
4:28 pm
But there are some limits that decent people do not cross.
MarkV–Kerry crossed that line long ago when he made false accusations against his fellow soldiers in arms in order to advance his own political career.
http://www.25thaviation.org/johnkerry/
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
4:30 pm
“I am used to people making all kinds of accusation and insulting remarks for political reasons. But there are some limits that decent people do not cross. That is what you have done with the statement above.”
Really, MarkV? When Kerry admitted he never threw his own medals, but rather someone else’s?
Sorry, but “Liveshot” Kerry (so nicknamed due to his ability to always get his face in front of a working camera) has done little to distinguish himself in life, save getting himself elected and marrying up.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
4:36 pm
I second what Dusty said about bandaid kerry.
getalife
February 10th, 2013
4:39 pm
Kerry is Secretary of State.
What have you done cons?
MarkV
February 10th, 2013
4:41 pm
Bruno, Tiberius, Aesop,
I have nothing to say to cowards.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
4:44 pm
Ti–When you look at any list of typical Lib “heroes”, which usually includes people like John Kerry, George Soros, Al Gore or Barack Obama, all I see are a bunch of jackass malcontents who are more than happy to personally profit from our system, then turn around and spit on it in some arrogant, self-righteous fashion. You have to wonder what drives some of these folks…..
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
4:46 pm
Bruno, Tiberius, Aesop,
I have nothing to say to cowards.
I’m glad to see that you recognize the Ti, Aesop and myself aren’t cowards like your Lib heroes, otherwise you wouldn’t have addressed us.
(I couldn’t make up any of this crap if I tried)
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
4:49 pm
Kerry is Secretary of State.
What have you done cons?
By that metric, then, I’m assuming you have nothing but praise for GWB, getalife.
Dusty
February 10th, 2013
4:50 pm
MarkV, relax,hon
You can go to Google and read about Kerry throwing his medals over the White House fence in an antiwar protest. Then he said they were ribbons not medals. Then he said he threw everything. His stories vary. Last week at a book sale there was a hard back copy of the book written against Kerry about his accounts of his Viet Nam service. It was written by those who served and disagreed with him. I didn’t buy the book.
I don’t think this is the kind of man I want for Sec. of State.
As to Hagel,
Medals are not the question but he changes his mind too much on big issues, which i believe I have already mentioned. The AJC & others are full of facts about that. Read ‘em. I do not want a vacillating Sec. of State.
In case you don’t know it, medals are meritous but they alone don’t make the character of those who receive them. Example: the killer policeman being hunted in California also received medals for his service in the military.
Now go do your homework and cool your fevered brow.
CC
February 10th, 2013
4:51 pm
“I have nothing to say to cowards.”
Spoken (written) like a true coward!
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
4:55 pm
CC–Let’s combine some music with the rain. Do you play mandolin, by any chance??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLB34EYC6o4
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
4:58 pm
Now go do your homework and cool your fevered brow.
Dusty–Maybe we should give MarkV a break. It must be a lot of work to carry water for PsOS like Kerry and Gore.
Dusty
February 10th, 2013
4:59 pm
Well, let’s get back to the RAIN!! Some of my favorite lines of others are about rain and sunshine.
“The rain in Spain stays mainly on the plain.” and
“Maddogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun.”
They are just fum, that’s all. They make me smile.
Dusty
February 10th, 2013
5:00 pm
Did I say FUM? Now that’s dum dum.
indigo
February 10th, 2013
5:01 pm
Bruno, Tiberius, CC
You should really look before you leap.
http://www.factcheck.org/republican-funded_group_attacks_kerrys_war_record.html
Dusty
February 10th, 2013
5:03 pm
Bruno, 4:58
Nawwww, let’s keep MarkV busy. Keeps him out of trouble.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
5:03 pm
MarkV, as usual, knows nothing about which he is posting.
getalife
February 10th, 2013
5:04 pm
You cons are divided, conquered and thoroughly defeated.
Americans do not believe a word you say.
Game over, you lost.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
5:05 pm
Bruno, Tiberius, CC
You should really look before you leap.
Apparently you don’t follow your own advice, indigo. I mentioned nothing about the “Swift Boat” veterans.
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
5:08 pm
Hagel a flip/flopper like Mittens both from same party.Praise GWB,that would be the unpardonable.Had a dog named Bruno at one time.Good dog.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
5:08 pm
Well, let’s get back to the RAIN!! Some of my favorite lines of others are about rain and sunshine.
For you, blue eyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8b8I2_Ik3E
getalife
February 10th, 2013
5:09 pm
“as usual, knows nothing about which he is posting.”
Very true for you cons.
The gop establishment will crush you.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
5:11 pm
CC–I hereby nominate you “Rain King” for today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLHso6hLHFA
CC
February 10th, 2013
5:13 pm
indigo@5:01:
If you look behind the scenes at these phony “fact check” sites, you find that they are funded by organizations with political biases. You must always ask yourself. Who is writing about this so-called “truth.” Who funds the site and pays their expenses. What are the origins and history of the funders and who are they associated with. In the case of factcheck.org they receive their funding from the liberal Annenberg Foundation.
The Annenberg Foundation was originally founded by Walter J. Annenberg, a conservative who supported Ronald Reagan. However, when Walter Annenberg died, his family took over the management of the foundation and it took a turn to the far left and has ties to radical left individuals such as Bill Ayers and his friend and fellow left wing radical collegue Barack Obama. How is factcheck.org associated with these people:
To start, Ayers was the key founder of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Chicago public school reform project from 1995 to 2001. Upon its start in 1995, Obama was appointed Board Chairman and President of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Geesh, that alone connects all three. Well, it branches out even more from there.
Ayers co-chaired the organization’s Collaborative, which set the education policies of the Challenge. Oddly enough, Obama was the one who was authorized to delegate to the Collaborative in regards to its programs and projects. In addition to that, Obama often times had to seek advice and assistance from the Ayer’s led Collaborative in regards to the programmatic aspects of grant proposals. Ayers even sat on the same board as Obama as an “ex officio member”. They both also sat together on the board of the CAC’s Governance Committee. Obama and Ayers were two parts of a group of four who were instructed to draft the bylaws that would govern the CAC. Keep in mind that the “A” in CAC is for Annenberg, the owners of FactCheck.org. The funding for Ayer’s projects and those of his cronies was approved by Board Chair, Barack Obama.
getalife
February 10th, 2013
5:16 pm
Shorter cc,
Facts don’t matter.
Yes, they do in the real world.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
5:16 pm
Indigo, maybe you should pay attention and you won’t look like the idiot you are when you post. In fact, you could double your intelligence and still be an idiot.
I never said that Kerry didn’t earn his medals. There is significant enough differences in accounts to make no decision whatsoever in that regard.
My issue is with his phony, self-centered promotion of “throwing his medals” over the fence at the U.S. Capitol, when he did no such thing. He then claimed he did, then claimed he didn’t, then when exposed said he “didn’t have time to go back and get them”, so he threw someone else’s.
He rails against the rich avoiding taxes, yet moors his yacht out of state to escape paying higher state taxes, and only moves it when caught.
The guy is a phony from top to bottom, and President Incompetent just made him SoS.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
5:17 pm
I always loved this song. “Walking In The Rain (With The One I Love)” by Love Unlimited. You might like this one, Dusty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TamdHlPm_IA
CC
February 10th, 2013
5:19 pm
Also indigo . . .
Here’s a funny fact about FactCheck.org: Barack Obama was Chairman of The Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995 until 2000. The Challenge had to do with reforming Chicago public schools.
But, it was funded by the same source that funds FactCheck.org: The Annenberg Foundation. If you go to FactCheck.org and look at the logo, you will see “ANNENBERG POLITICAL FACTCHECK.”
You can read all of the documentation about this connection between Obama and the Annenberg organizations on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Annenberg_Challenge
So…knowing this now…can you REALLY rely on FactCheck.org to tell you the “true” and “accurate” facts about anything regarding Obama and Joe Biden?
If you still do…I have a Chicago baseball team I’d like to sell you…just send me your credit card information and I’ll give you a certificate of ownership. I’ll also throw-in the Brooklyn Bridge in for free.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
5:21 pm
If you look behind the scenes at these phony “fact check” sites, you find that they are funded by organizations with political biases.
Shhhhh, CC. Don’t shatter indigo’s world like that.
He rails against the rich avoiding taxes, yet moors his yacht out of state to escape paying higher state taxes, and only moves it when caught.
Kind of like Gore’s out-of-sight electric bills and frequent use of his private jet while simultaneously lecturing everyone else about the dangers of fossil fuels?? Seems to be a pattern here……
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
5:24 pm
One more G-Rated rain song for our girl, Dusty. “Laughter in the Rain” by Neil Sedaka:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCusyLPrFCo
CC
February 10th, 2013
5:25 pm
Bruno:
“Kind of like Gore’s out-of-sight electric bills and frequent use of his private jet while simultaneously lecturing everyone else about the dangers of fossil fuels?? Seems to be a pattern here……”
EXACTLY like that!
MarkV
February 10th, 2013
5:26 pm
Dusty @ 4:50 pm
No Dusty,
I will not relax. You are trying to hide using reasoning that is fitting for Tiberius, but not for a thinking person. What Kerry did with his medals after coming back from the war has nothing to do with the fact of his war service for this country, which you have soiled by your comment. What did it mean “Purple Heart Persuasion and Medal throwing, there’s plenty of doubt about being first rate?” What was not “first rate,” in your opinion? Please explain that.
As I said before, I am used to political attacks, even those that I find outrageous. But I drew a line when people like Aesop name someone who fought and bled for this country “bandaid Kerry,” and do not hide my contempt for such cowards. You have not one that far, but perilously close.
CC
February 10th, 2013
5:27 pm
. . . and Gore’s making a killing on his ‘green’ energy investments!
Self-serving, to say the least!
indigo
February 10th, 2013
5:28 pm
CC – 5:19
You could say the same thing about conservative funded groups.
It is true that unbiased, honest information is getting next to impossible to find.
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
5:29 pm
Feels like a November rain.Yes that is when Obama rained on you parade.February Kerry does it again.
indigo
February 10th, 2013
5:30 pm
Bruno – 4:44
I could have sworn you refered to Kerry as “jackass malcontent”.
But, of course, that has nothing to do with his war record.
Right?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
5:34 pm
When given conflicting reports of Kerry’s service record, MarkV takes the side of the lib who has already been proven a liar, a gigolo, and a tax cheat.
No doubt in what passes for his poor excuse for a mind whatsoever.
indigo
February 10th, 2013
5:35 pm
Tiberius – 5:16 “earn his medals”
Oh really?
So, he actually did fight bravely and “earn his medals”?
Is the same Kerry who has done little “to distinguish himself in life”?
I know you love to split hairs.
(hint – it doesn’t actually make you any smarter)
CC
February 10th, 2013
5:39 pm
“It is true that unbiased, honest information is getting next to impossible to find.”
Finally! A single point of agreement . . .
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
February 10th, 2013
5:42 pm
Kerry lost to Bush.
Just to keep the respective intellects in perspective.
CC
February 10th, 2013
5:42 pm
Dusty:
“You have not one that far, but perilously close.”
I guess you have now been warned!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
5:47 pm
“So, he actually did fight bravely and “earn his medals”?”
Indigo, if you are going to continue to act like the idiot you are, I’m going to call you out on it.
You may not parse my statements to try to make an opposite point than what I am making.
That is the equivalent of lying to make your point. If you can’t make one without lying, I suggest Bookman’s site. You’ll fit in there really well.
Otherwise, you’ll see that I am not convinced either way that he earned his medals due to conflicting accounts of his service. I wasn’t there. Other people who were paint a different story. Given Kerry’s questionable actions since that time (also detailed above), I have enough skepticism of him to have doubts about the veracity of his accounts during Vietnam.
CC
February 10th, 2013
5:47 pm
Dusty:
Also, re an earlier post by you . . .
My jonquils are blooming, jasmine wants to bloom and even one of my azaleas is thinking that Spring has arrived!
getalife
February 10th, 2013
5:57 pm
We have the gop establishment led by the turtle and backed by rove unlimited bribes working with our President to get things done like the majority wants..
Where does this leave you cons?
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
5:58 pm
But, of course, that has nothing to do with his war record.
indigo–I have no reason to denigrate Kerry’s time in service, even though his motivations for joining in the first place may have been in anticipation of a future political career . Per his “heroics”, the Wiki article linked below has this quote in it:
“I didn’t really want to get involved in the war,” Kerry said in a book of Vietnam reminiscences published in 1986. “When I signed up for the swift boats, they had very little to do with the war. They were engaged in coastal patrolling and that’s what I thought I was going to be doing.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_career_of_John_Kerry
I could have sworn you refered to Kerry as “jackass malcontent”.
I sure did in my 4:44, and even provided a definition of the term, which had nothing to do with his time in service, and everything to do with his time AFTER service.
Dusty
February 10th, 2013
5:59 pm
MarkV
You haven’t been doing your homework. If you check out Kerry’s time in Viet Nam you will find out he was there less than three months. In three months he received the Bronze Star, the silver Star and THREE purple hearts. That’s what I called “Purple Heart Persuasion”. Also, he never missed any duty from his three purple heart injuries. Injuries? Many veterans of that same conflict say that a purple heart every month is improbable at best.
Now don’t make any more accusations until you do your own research. That might make you understand why I don’t think Kerry would make a good Secretary of State.
I’ve already mentioned ‘character’ and medals which you ignored.
Your blind approval of everyone liberal is amazing. I hope you get over that ’cause NOBODY is perfect
indigo
February 10th, 2013
6:01 pm
Tiberius
You are very good at infering, implying and hair-splitting.
If you wind up in a cushy job at daddy’s company, this won’t be so bad.
But, if you must make it, on your own, in the corporate world, this behavior just won’t cut it. You will lose job after job.
Please don’t say no one ever told you.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
6:01 pm
“Early Morning Rain” by Gordon Lightfoot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYQTRiWcGWE
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
6:08 pm
“Rain” by Patty Griffin, often wrongly attributed to Norah Jones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFbjE7NFmUI
Dusty
February 10th, 2013
6:08 pm
CC,
I’m not worrying about “crossing the line” here. When I’m counting calories I start worryng about “crossing the line”. Don’t want any blubber if I can help it.
Sounds like you are getting a great start on springtime. I don’t have any jasmine. Wish I did but can’t make it grow. My azaleas are still sleeping. Probably just as well.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
6:11 pm
“You are very good at infering, implying and hair-splitting.”
Actually, I am quite clear in my writings.
It is your lack of English comprehension that fails you at times like these, Indigo.
And in yet another incorrect assumption on your part (but par for the course), I am already retired from the corporate world on my own terms. I work now only when I want to, and to keep myself active with the public.
Your surrender on points and substance is noted and logged.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
6:12 pm
Getting back to some rock and roll, “Rain” by Johnny Winter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwTRii7GG-M
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
6:15 pm
Even Empty Chair Eastwood feels there should be some cooperation among our leaders.AND if you can not defend then start name calling(idiot)and if you lie go over to Bookman’s site.This train bound for glory,don’t carry nothing but righteous and holy,this train.
CC
February 10th, 2013
6:15 pm
Bruno:
Enough of the rain! How about a rainbow or two? (You have to LOVE this song!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESv2aAsafbc
Dusty
February 10th, 2013
6:15 pm
Indigo
You need to catch up on your reading here. Bruno mentioned recently that he and his partner saw over one huindred patients in one day. Now would that give you a clue that he has a job and a profession in the medical field? Guess guess guess!
Dusty
February 10th, 2013
6:22 pm
Tiberius has mentioned his status away from here several times. Where have you been, Indigo?
MarkV
February 10th, 2013
6:27 pm
Dusty @ 5:59 pm
Dusty,
When it comes to homework, please do not pretend that you have done any. Yes, Kerry received
three purple hearts, a bronze star and a silver star. What are your facts? “Many veterans of that same conflict say that a purple heart every month is improbable at best.” You consider that a fact?
Let’s see what Republican Sen. John Warner, Under Secretary of the Navy at the time, said about Kerry’s silver star: “We did extraordinary, careful checking on that type of medal, a very high one, when it goes through the secretary…I’d stand by the process that awarded that medal, and I think we best acknowledge that his heroism did gain that recognition.”
And what about Commander of the United States Naval Forces in Vietnam at that time, Elmo Zumwalt, about the same: “It is a disgrace to the United States Navy that there’s any inference that the process was anything other than totally honest.”
I have done enough reading about that issue, probably much more than you. But the main point isn’t even that. The main point is that you, trying to attack everybody on the liberal side, and especially those selected by President Obama to serve this country, stoop to unfounded accusations about what a person, who went to defend his country in a very unpopular war, did forty years ago, to discredit him today. That is shameful indeed.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
6:30 pm
Enough of the rain! How about a rainbow or two? (You have to LOVE this song!)
Great pick, CC. I’m sure you’re aware that the Stones have another “rainbow” song in their repertoire called “She’s A Rainbow”. For my friend, Matz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sZLzfm0GZU
Lovers come and go, but friends are forever.
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
6:31 pm
Just checking to see how “eclectic” HD really is.
Eclectic enough to think that Jim Morrison was the least important member of the Doors.
CC
February 10th, 2013
6:31 pm
Dusty:
Please don’t confuse indigo further. She has enough trouble with factual information as it is and I fear that heaping more upon her mght be considered inhumane! We know how libs hate the inhumane!
CC
February 10th, 2013
6:37 pm
“I’m sure you’re aware that the Stones have another “rainbow” song in their repertoire”
That’s another great one, Bruno!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
6:38 pm
“stoop to unfounded accusations about what a person, who went to defend his country in a very unpopular war, did forty years ago,”
Neither Warner nor Zumwalt witnessed Kerry firsthand. His fellow swift boat veterans did. Some paint a different picture, MarkV, so your “unfounded” claim is not only not backed up with facts, but is at least misguided.
As are your politics.
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
6:40 pm
Bruno
Good pick in Kentucky Rain. Written by Eddie Rabbitt and Ronnie Milsap on the piano (most everybody who is anybody got on an Elvis session, sooner or later). According to Milsap, Elvis himself was indirectly responsible for the signature low part on the piano. When they were working it out, they thought it still needed a little something and Elvis said, “Gimme a little thunder there Milsap”. Elvis is also responsible for “Let it bleed”, which was later taken for an album title by the Stones. Elvis liked to record everything live. He was told they would get bleed-over through the mikes and said, “Let it bleed”.
And you didn’t ask but I used to play a little mandolin, before I mangled my hand.
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
6:44 pm
Here’s you a rain song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZlqEJGfhCY
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
6:49 pm
Bruno mentioned recently that he and his partner saw over one huindred patients in one day. Now would that give you a clue that he has a job and a profession in the medical field? Guess guess guess!
Between our two clinics, we saw more than 600 patients last week. Pretty amazing in this economy. But, please don’t spend too much time guessing about me, let’s just keep thing loose here.
At any rate, my true passion is in math and science, as you know. Since MarkV is so smart, and we Cons are so dumb (in his mind), maybe he can give us a quick synopsis of why Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity is presented in tensor form, rather than using ordinary vectors. Hint: In non-orthogonal coordinate systems, perpendicular projections of a given vector onto the coordinate axes do not form “components” in the same way that parallel projections do, insofar as the perpendicular projections cannot simply be recombined to reconstitute the original vector. By employing the concept of dual basis vectors, however, finding the covariant and contravariant components of a vector becomes straightforward.
I’ll give you a few years to get back to me, Mark.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
6:51 pm
“Hint: In non-orthogonal coordinate systems, perpendicular projections of a given vector onto the coordinate axes do not form “components” in the same way that parallel projections do, insofar as the perpendicular projections cannot simply be recombined to reconstitute the original vector. By employing the concept of dual basis vectors, however, finding the covariant and contravariant components of a vector becomes straightforward.”
My head hurts . . .
CC
February 10th, 2013
6:53 pm
“I’ll give you a few years to get back to me, Mark.”
Mayve he will be so busy with research that he will only have time for Bookman’s blog? This could be a very nice five year respite for us!
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
6:53 pm
Eclectic enough to think that Jim Morrison was the least important member of the Doors.
LOL–I don’t think you’re the only musician who feels that way.
And you didn’t ask but I used to play a little mandolin, before I mangled my hand.
I actually remembered you mentioning that once already, HD. Damn eidetic memory at work again.
MarkV
February 10th, 2013
6:58 pm
Bruno @ 6:49 pm
Bruno,
If anybody wants evidence of the weakness of your mind, your post such an evidence. It is truly incredible that an educated person can write such a drivel.
Have I ever claimed a detailed knowledge of Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity? Do you have a detailed knowledge of every issue in math and science? What about engineering? What about history?
Or are you simply so stupid to think that you have proved anything?
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
7:03 pm
Bruno
Guitar and bass were what I really played. Never was that great but sure do miss it.
Most folks probably aren’t in to stuff like this but I love watching it. There’s a reason people wind up as legends; because they’re good and they know what they’re doing. It’s more complicated than most folks realize.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNGQudbM3OQ
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
7:04 pm
“Hint: In non-orthogonal coordinate systems, perpendicular projections of a given vector onto the coordinate axes do not form “components” in the same way that parallel projections do, insofar as the perpendicular projections cannot simply be recombined to reconstitute the original vector. By employing the concept of dual basis vectors, however, finding the covariant and contravariant components of a vector becomes straightforward.”
Well, hell…….who don’t know that?
CC
February 10th, 2013
7:04 pm
Bruno:
“For you, blue eyes:”
Meant to comment on this earlier! What a great song! If there is anything relative to music that Nelson hasn’t done, I somehow missed it! He is truly legendary and has written a LOT of really great music!
Also, no, I don’t play the mandolin. I’ve played around for years on a two-stack harmonica, though, just for my own amusement. Not that good with it . . .
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
7:05 pm
LOL @ Ti and CC.
The concepts which Einstein drew upon to form both the Special Theory of Relativity along with the General Theory of Relativity aren’t that hard to grasp, although expressing those ideas in precise mathematical form is rather daunting. In fact, he had to rely on outside help from some mathematician friends to do that.
In simple terms, Einstein started with the presupposition that there is no “absolute” universal frame of reference ( = coordinate system) by which to measure position or velocity unambiguously. Expressing position and motion in terms of indexed “tensors” avoids the difficulty I mentioned above in which the components of vectors using a non-orthogonal coordinate system don’t “add up” to give back the original vector. BTW, the word “orthogonal” simply refers to the tradition “right angle” coordinate systems we all grew up with in math class.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
7:08 pm
Have I ever claimed a detailed knowledge of Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity? Do you have a detailed knowledge of every issue in math and science? What about engineering? What about history?
I’m not sure, but I do know that you’ve mouthed off several times here about how smart you and the rest of your Lib buddies are, and how uninformed Cons are. So, now it’s time to put up or shut up.
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
7:13 pm
I’ve always liked this song and the drums are played by Jim Gordon (Derek & the Dominoes fame, etc). It isn’t noted for that but this is some of the best “for the song” drumming you’ll ever hear, in my opinion. Really nice cymbal work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9iJ1sUDF6g
MarkV
February 10th, 2013
7:17 pm
Bruno @ 7:08 pm
You are only continuing to show your stupidity. First of all, I have never “mouthed off several times here about how smart” I am. So you are starting with a lie right there. If you want to claim that, present the evidence. And most certainly I have never claimed the type of knowledge of the topic you have suggested. Give me one good reason why I should answer you idiotic question. So you now put up or shut up.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
7:21 pm
I’ve always liked this song and the drums are played by Jim Gordon (Derek & the Dominoes fame, etc). It isn’t noted for that but this is some of the best “for the song” drumming you’ll ever hear, in my opinion. Really nice cymbal work.
One of the most talented drummers I ever saw live was Andy Ward, who made his name in the group “Camel” in the mid 70s, and played briefly in the group you and I both like called “Marillion”. He didn’t play as many beats per seconds as some more well-known drummers, but he had a great touch, striking the drums and cymbals with just the right amount of force.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsBWLGdDHkw
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
7:26 pm
“And most certainly I have never claimed the type of knowledge of the topic you have suggested.”
But you did claim detailed knowledge of Kerry’s actions in Vietnam “I have done enough reading about that issue, probably much more than you”, yet can’t seem to find any facts from people who actually witnessed them to corroborate your alleged “knowledge” of same.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
7:28 pm
Kinda long, but this live version of “Lady Fantasy” by Camel is great:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAfhNaJ9b68
I was lucky enough to see Camel at the Roxy in LA in 1978.
MarkV
February 10th, 2013
7:28 pm
Tiberius @7:26 pm
“But you did claim detailed knowledge of Kerry’s actions in Vietnam.”
Tiberius lying again. No surprise there.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
7:29 pm
MarkV is desperately flailing again.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
7:30 pm
I gotta say, Kyle should be impressed with us upon his return on Monday. In addition to burying Bookman’s blog, we ran the musical gamut from Eno to Camel to songs about the rain.
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
7:33 pm
he had a great touch, striking the drums and cymbals with just the right amount of force.
Can’t remember who it was but I once heard somebody say a good drummer “should be felt and not heard”. I tend to agree with that.
Ward was good at that.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 10th, 2013
7:42 pm
The only thing I know about drummers is:
KRUPA !!!!
h/t to the Muppets Animal . . .
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
7:53 pm
Interesting article here.
http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/section/75/article/79498/
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
7:55 pm
Here’s another
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/opinion/column/guest/kathleen-parker-the-ghosts-of-benghazi/article_f80d1dd8-725d-11e2-9749-001a4bcf887a.html
CC
February 10th, 2013
7:59 pm
Tib:
“The only thing I know about drummers is: KRUPA !!!!”
I had the opportunity to see/hear Krupa in NYC. He was truly a great drummer!
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
8:01 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_BmeBfV-O4
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
8:03 pm
One more Camel song. Long live prog-rock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBWGjT-XV6g
md
February 10th, 2013
8:04 pm
“Kind of like Gore’s out-of-sight electric bills and frequent use of his private jet while simultaneously lecturing everyone else about the dangers of fossil fuels??”
Let’s not forget the irony of the tidy profit he just made selling Current TV to……..drum roll please……an entity partially funded by the oil rich State of Qatar…….
It’s estimated that he will make about $70 million, of which how much is directly related to oil???
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
8:05 pm
They have introduced preferred pharmacies for Medicare Part D patients that advertise lower co-pays or eliminates them.
In my profession, waiving copays or deductibles is illegal.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
8:10 pm
It all makes quite a bit of difference, though less now than it might have just before the election. Clinton’s response was so loaded with explosive potential, it’s a mystery why no one on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee attempted to provide an answer.
Most important is the possibility that those four American lives might have been saved. More prosaically, it is possible that President Barack Obama’s re-election might not have been assured had possible incompetence at the highest levels been highlighted sooner rather than … now.
HD–I have no doubt that our response, or lack thereof, was politically motivated. So close to the election, Obama most likely just wanted the whole affair to go away.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
8:14 pm
Bringing it all back home, here’s “Rain Dances” by Camel. Even if you don’t like the music, Rain Dances features one of the sexiest album covers of all time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPrK6i3nOGw
md
February 10th, 2013
8:14 pm
“So close to the election, Obama most likely just wanted the whole affair to go away.”
And our non reporting media outlets responding accordingly…….
CC
February 10th, 2013
8:18 pm
“And, as now-retired Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said to congressional questioners during her appearance on Capitol Hill: What difference does it make?”
“Those words, uttered impatiently, came in response to a question from Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., about what the administration knew and when. Specifically, he asked why the administration sent U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice around to Sunday talk shows with talking points that we now know were incorrect.”
Those words uttered by Hillary Clinton, “What difference does it make?” are the sum and substance of the current administration. In my opinion, the feeling of Obama and his appointees is that it is permissible to intentionally mislead, conceal or lie about anything and everything to the American people.
Bruno
February 10th, 2013
8:18 pm
Looks like the Grammys just got started. I read where they warned the ladies to not show too much skin this year. Whoever came up with that policy needs to be shot. My only hope for this year is that the no-talent Nicki Minaj isn’t given any air time.
Catch you guys on Monday.
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
8:20 pm
Bruno
Mail order meds is a pet peeve of mine. At least in my experience, you have to buy from the mail order place or insurance won’t pay. At least in some cases, the insurance company owns at least part of the mail order place. I’ve had my own local pharmacist show me that the mail order place is charging retail price, less than he would charge. However, you buy from him, you pay it all yourself or buy from the mail order place and the insurance pays minus a co-pay. It’s a friggin’ racket.
On Hilary’s testimony, I thought the Senators let her get away with a deflection. She trotted out the “anger” and the “what does it matter?” and never answered the question. The whole thing was done under perfect control. It was a grand performance and nobody called her on it.
I agree it was all politically motivated. It went against the “everything in the Middle East is under control” story line that was being pushed. And to admit it was a planned attack, which they knew from almost the beginning, would’ve looked bad for the narrative. I realize these things can happen, any time, any place but on 9/11, of all days, every outpost in the world should be on high alert. Second, the “it was the movie” nonsense was just that. That was a total dodge. Even I knew from day one, it was a planned attack. You don’t drop mortar rounds on a safe house, without some pre-planning and co-ordination. The attack had been in the planning for some time, obviously.
CC
February 10th, 2013
8:21 pm
HD:
Both were good articles. I’m afraid the days of the local drugstore are numbered and they will go the way of the local hardware stores and general stores in the wake of Home Depot and Wal-Mart. I, for one, am sorry to see these changes . . .
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 10th, 2013
8:22 pm
Obama most likely just wanted the whole affair to go away.
It pretty much did, you have to hand it to him, he knows how to get away with things. Maybe it is just lots of experience, with getting away with things, Choom Gang and all.
md
February 10th, 2013
8:22 pm
” In my opinion, the feeling of Obama and his appointees is that it is permissible to intentionally mislead, conceal or lie about anything and everything to the American people.”
And evidently it is true as the man was just re-elected. I’m not sure how to interpret that…are his supporters also just turning a blind eye or are they just tuned out to what is really happening around them?
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 10th, 2013
8:25 pm
Hillbilly
It has become apparent that the independent pharmacies are probably going the way of the local hardware store. You will still have them in the small towns and villages, but in larger cities, they are not going to be able to compete. Sad, I still remember how the drug store of my youth, smelled.
Hillbilly D
February 10th, 2013
8:35 pm
Rafe
That’s true. It reminds me of another story. I was at the doctor once and I asked him about a prescription. I told him my insurance would no longer cover it, so he says, “Well, you can get this one at Kroger or WalMart for $4. It’s the same thing”. And my question was, “If it’s the same thing, why the hell haven’t you been prescribing that one the whole time?”.
And you have a point about the local drug stores and small towns. Out where I live, some folks have to drive 15-20 miles to get to a chain store. Most of the folks who need prescriptions the most are old and don’t need to be driving much and don’t want to be driving much. At least they ought to let the local pharmacies participate in the same program as the big boys. Of course, we can guess which group has the ear of the folks who make the rules.
CC
February 10th, 2013
8:44 pm
The rains have arrived here and I think I’ll call it a night.
Stay dry!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 10th, 2013
8:50 pm
” In my opinion, the feeling of Obama and his appointees is that it is permissible to intentionally mislead, conceal or lie about anything and everything to the American people.”
And evidently it is true as the man was just re-elected. I’m not sure how to interpret that…are his supporters also just turning a blind eye or are they just tuned out to what is really happening around them?
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
8:57 pm
Kamwhack – Why don’t you go back to the Steppes?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 10th, 2013
8:59 pm
Kamwhack
Ruh, roh.
I believe that is a violation of rule #4.
moonbat betty
February 10th, 2013
9:11 pm
OMG,
Kamchak got off her leash!!
Come back to Bookman’s, Kamchak
You’re our only hope.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 10th, 2013
9:14 pm
4. Anyone who refers to another commenter by anything other than the handle the latter uses will be subject to a ban of at least one week. This may sound like an extraordinary measure, but it is the source of many commenter fights. A shortened version of the handle may be acceptable, but only if there is no obvious intent to insult. As I will be the sole judge of that intent, I recommend you err on the side of not being too cute. The ban will also be applied to anyone who refers to commenters by previous handles they used.
Yep.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
9:14 pm
I didn’t ask you about the rules, Kamwhack.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 10th, 2013
9:17 pm
I didn’t ask you about the rules, Kamwhack.
Doubling down on the violation.
Wanna try for three?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
9:18 pm
Well, why we’re on the subject, I’ve been called names for weeks now on this same blog and managed not to blubber about it. But then again, I’m not a liberal.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 10th, 2013
9:20 pm
Well, why we’re on the subject, I’ve been called names for weeks now on this same blog and managed not to blubber about it. But then again, I’m not a liberal.
And unlike someone on here, I don’t email Kyle multiple times a week complaining about the violations.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
9:26 pm
So I ask again, why don’t you go back to your bubble? bookman could use the mindless hits.
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
9:26 pm
Heavens forbid we should not expect any deception from our politicians.Before or after they are elected.But for party sake vote for them anyway.Ain’t no hipocrites on this site.
td
February 10th, 2013
9:28 pm
Poor Kam can not stand it that Kyle’s blog has been civil, informative, excellent debate and a great deal more popular then Jay’s this weekend.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 10th, 2013
9:31 pm
So I ask again, why don’t you go back to your bubble? bookman could use the mindless hits.
Why don’t you go over there?
Oh yeah, you wore out your welcome.
As I recall you vowed to run Jay off the blogs.
How did that work out for you, again?
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
9:33 pm
CC did not offer to share his venison stew.Bet it’s good with a shot of hot sauce and good corn bread.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
9:48 pm
468 to 360, I guess groupthink is not as popular as it once was. And don’t forget, 300 of the groupthink comments were mindless.
CC
February 10th, 2013
9:48 pm
Did Kamchak shut this blog down?
CC
February 10th, 2013
9:50 pm
“300 of the groupthink comments were mindless” as they always are . . .
CC
February 10th, 2013
9:54 pm
Some of us think for ourselves while others follow blindly in the foot Steppes of Bookman . . .
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 10th, 2013
9:56 pm
Some of us think for ourselves while others follow blindly in the foot Steppes of Bookman . . .
Dittoheads say, “What?”
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
9:59 pm
Only one problem,most post under different names were from the same person.Need Bruno to figure those vectors.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
10:06 pm
Why must we suffer the fools? Don’t they have their own playpen to soil?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 10th, 2013
10:08 pm
Oh yeah, I forgot, it’s completely mindless and boring in their bubble.
bluecoat
February 10th, 2013
10:11 pm
We just don’t have sand in our playpen.
Dusty
February 10th, 2013
10:15 pm
Well, I’ve just gotten back and see that MarkV has read all the good Kerry reports. Skipped the other kind. Democrat=good.
Then MarkV did not even mention Hagel who is also a veteran with medals. I don’t think he needs to be in the cabinet either. But no defense from MarkV on Hagel. Republican=no defense.
Sorry, MarkV, there’s no shame on finding well known facts and making a decision. Disagreeing with you is light debate Don’t get so unpleasant about it. It is possible to disagree without being insulting. Try it!
Good night all. Rain on the plain tomorrow.
getalife
February 10th, 2013
10:48 pm
“As I recall you vowed to run Jay off the blogs.
How did that work out for you, again?”
That is hilarious
md
February 10th, 2013
11:01 pm
“The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.”
No, the smoking gun was the non-sense about dinner and a movie……seems the populace sat back, ate their popcorn and watched the movie….non the wiser.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 10th, 2013
11:02 pm
No, the smoking gun was the non-sense about dinner and a movie……
Deflecterbation.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
February 10th, 2013
11:11 pm
“I’m not sure how to interpret [Obozo's re-election]…are his supporters also just turning a blind eye or are they just tuned out to what is really happening around them?”
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The checks keep coming. The EBT cards keep getting topped off. It’s all good in taker-land.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
February 10th, 2013
11:17 pm
The checks keep coming.
Haliburton says, “What?”
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
February 10th, 2013
11:19 pm
Halliburton says “Thanks a bunch for the business as usual, Obozo!”
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e1_1273440915
MarkV
February 11th, 2013
10:11 am
Dusty @ 10:15 pm
Dusty,
You have piled up irrelevant accusations and verbiage to hide the substance of what was the aim of my comments. One more time, no surprise.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 11th, 2013
10:46 am
“You have piled up irrelevant accusations and verbiage to hide the substance of what was the aim of my comments.”
Looks like MarkV is speaking to his mirror this morning.
No surprise.
MarkV
February 11th, 2013
11:11 am
Looks like Tiberius is the usual obnoxious self this morning, not to mention boringly repetitive.