Broun wastes no time in Georgia Senate race
Here’s what appeared on my screen when I checked the AJC Political Insider blog a few minutes ago:
That’s not one but two Broun for Senate ads, just two days after the congressman from Athens officially entered the race to replace the retiring Saxby Chambliss. Both ads take you to the typical landing page at which you can sign up for email updates or give money to the campaign. Beyond that, there’s a one-page website set up with what Broun calls his “Four Way Test for all legislation”: Is it constitutional/right/necessary/affordable?
Lest you have to guess which one of these four appears to be most important to Broun, here’s the script from his landing site:
<– “Constitution”
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.
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<– “Constitutionalist”
<– “Constitution”
.
.
.
<– “Constitutional”
.
I guess you could say his campaign has a theme.
It’s a theme that will resonate with a lot of Georgia voters, mind you. But will it be enough of one to move many members of even the state GOP’s very conservative base beyond his past controversial statements?
The question in my mind is how much of a first-mover advantage Broun gets from this, particularly given that one of the other most likely Republican entrants, Congressman Tom Price of Roswell, reportedly feels no pressure to jump into the race soon. It sounds increasingly likely that Congressman Jack Kingston of Savannah is going to run, but the timetable for his announcement also sounds unhurried. Would even several weeks of being the sole announced candidate help Broun in an election that won’t take place for another year and a half? I guess we’ll find out.
P.S. — This post is in no way an endorsement for or against Broun, and the same will be true for the other posts about the Senate race that are sure to follow in the weeks and months to come. I plan to write extensively about this race, as it will be one of the most anticipated ones in Georgia in years, from both a state and national perspective. But I will not be endorsing anyone for some time. When I make an endorsement, that will be clear.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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Reality
February 8th, 2013
11:37 am
Yawn. Another idiot republican spewing generic words to get Georgia votes.
Will Georgia voters again fall for this crazy republican ploy? How many times will this work?
Maybe I will run for Senate and use the word “Constitution” more times than he does and WIN!!!!
CC
February 8th, 2013
11:38 am
“suggested Barack Obama has more allegiance to the Soviet constitution than the American one.”
This is one statement by Broun with which I can agree.
sailfish
February 8th, 2013
11:38 am
I actually like Kingston, at least it seems that he has some brains instead of jelly in his noggin. Last thing the senate needs is another brain dead ideologue that fears compromise. How exactly did he think we got our constitution?
Just Saying..
February 8th, 2013
11:40 am
What would that be, 20-22 months of “Today in Georgia, Senate candidate Paul Broun said……”?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
11:41 am
If only he believed in Constitutional principles when it came to social issues as much as he claims to.
Which, of course, he doesn’t.
That being said, a full court press this early doesn’t seem to me to mean a whole heck of a lot when there are still so many more yet to enter, as well as so much more time any primary. Depending on how much others hammer him on his previous remarks, Broun might just be yesterday’s news in the next 6-8 months.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
11:41 am
I’ll betcha he ain’t talking about the Soviet Constitution either.
JDW
February 8th, 2013
11:42 am
Personally I think it would be in Broun’s best interest to wait as long as possible to run ads or make statements. The earlier he starts the larger the number of opportunities that Fruitloop gives himself to shoot his extremities off.
Logical Dude
February 8th, 2013
11:42 am
Kyle asks: will it be enough of one to move many members of even the state GOP’s very conservative base beyond his past controversial statements?
It depends on his competition. I really don’t see him backing down from previous statements, so if his competition has similar controversial statements, then he’ll be on equal ground. If others attack him for those statements, then maybe, just maybe, some candidate(s) will capture some of the middle conservatives and beat out the far right conservatives.
Of course, related to this is out of state money that will be aimed at the “more electable” candidate.
It’ll be interesting to watch.
JDW
February 8th, 2013
11:44 am
So, Kyle what did you think of the water deal….my guess is the Hillbillies say no.
indigo
February 8th, 2013
11:48 am
In most of our States, someone like Broun would have no chance at all for any public office.
Unfortunately, Georgia’s majority dirt dumb electorate virtually assures that Broun or someone like him will go sailing into office with a large landslide victory.
indigo
February 8th, 2013
11:49 am
CC – 11:38
That is precisely to sort of lame brain comment I would expect from a yahoo like you.
CC
February 8th, 2013
11:50 am
Broun had two chances of winning the Senate seat . . . slim and none. He has eliminated the ’slim’ chance he had by announcing this early. I agree with the statement by Tiberius earlier except I think Broun will be history in less than six months.
Mr. Holmes
February 8th, 2013
11:51 am
Personally praying that either Broun or Karen Handel emerges from this scrum. And that Kasim Reed runs against that person.
sailfish
February 8th, 2013
11:51 am
Funny how when bush was president, the dems complained how he subverted the constitution. Now that obama is president, cons claim he adheres closer to the soviet constitution. What conclusion might this all lead to? Don’t worry about it too much, cause the only thing you just might get impeached for is a stained blue dress.
Dusty
February 8th, 2013
11:53 am
Well, there’s plenty of time to think about this one. Maybe we will all review the Constitution and be ready for everybody. There seems to be a whole lot of everybody.
I just hope that Saxby will continue to be a good and strong Republcian for the next two years. . We still have Obama no matter what and that’s enough to worry about. for the coming years.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
11:54 am
I tend to agree with JDW, I’d pipe it down for a bit and let the field fill out. He needs to understand that there are a lot of freakish deviant small minded little perverts out there that are going to twist up statements about his faith, beliefs in the founding principles of this great nation and other decent and moral subjects he should broach. They do not understand such things and would rather glorify social diseases and all the other filth.
Plus, it will do us all some good not to hear from these mealy mouthed liberals, for awhile anyway.
CC
February 8th, 2013
11:54 am
indigo:
You have no idea how little I care about your expectations . .. or you, for that matter.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
11:55 am
Never complain about someone’s 11:38 comment when you post stupidity at 11:48.
Dusty
February 8th, 2013
11:56 am
Sailfish,,
A stained blue dress won’t get you impeached. Lying about it will.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
11:58 am
“that are going to twist up statements about his faith, beliefs in the founding principles of this great nation and other decent and moral subjects he should broach.”
What business is it of an elected official to comment on / pass legislation on what is decent or moral, Aesop?
“They do not understand such things and would rather glorify social diseases and all the other filth.”
I have yet to read a single comment on here (ever) which glorifies any social disease.
sailfish
February 8th, 2013
12:00 pm
“Lying about it will.”
True enough, but that can only happen if someone “outs” you about a private matter. What about lying to go to war?
Darwin
February 8th, 2013
12:00 pm
So Georgians know the Constitution? LOL!
Bob Loblaw
February 8th, 2013
12:03 pm
Kyle asked: Would even several weeks of being the sole announced candidate help Broun in an election that won’t take place for another year and a half?
Really? With all the pressing things to write about that are on Georgians minds, Paul Broun won’t move the needle except for those who are thinking of running for his current seat.
Won’t win, place or show. Just “out there” early. So thankful he’s running.
sailfish
February 8th, 2013
12:03 pm
Tiberius is a southpaw today, carry on.
Road Scholar
February 8th, 2013
12:05 pm
Does the theme include the words” bat-sh*t crazy”?
Kingston may work. let’s see who else jumps in….
DeKalb School super resigns; why didn’t the resignation include Eugene Walker? Both heads should roll!
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
12:06 pm
Tibs – There are many laws that were written in the very beginning of this great nation, by men that were like thousands of times more decent than anyone alive today, and very, very few of them have been overturned since they were written. Only the ones that deal with social diseases like abortion and homosexual sodomy. Me myself, I’m proud of the fact that I tend to believe as the founders did and even more, I do not deny my God in the face of banal indecent self centered human conduct.
And you?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
12:06 pm
he is trying to get out ahead of Karl Rove.
but just wait for Rove to start throwing the big money around and we can see how it shakes out.
Karl is on the plane heading for GA….
Centrist
February 8th, 2013
12:07 pm
1. Broun has (thankfully) no chance of winning.
2. Use the Mozilla Firefox browser with the Adblock Plus addon, and AJC ads aren’t downloaded (makes pages come up faster, too).
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
12:08 pm
I do not deny my God in the face of banal indecent self centered human conduct.
I’m glad he is yours. You have your own unicorns too?
Road Scholar
February 8th, 2013
12:08 pm
“He needs to understand that there are a lot of freakish deviant small minded little perverts out there that are going to twist up statements about his faith, beliefs in the founding principles of this great nation and other decent and moral subjects he should broach. ”
I think he is capable of doing that himself!
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
12:08 pm
Personally, I think Broun has a decent shot at getting in a run-off but I think his chances are slim in getting his party’s nomination.
Of course, as others above have said, at this point, this is just filler for a rainy day. It’s way too early to be prognosticating and pontificating about this.
Gotta run. I’ve got to go pay some bills and tend to my dinosaurs.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
12:09 pm
“So Georgians know the Constitution?”
Generally, better than most people sent to Washington, D.C. Darwin.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
12:09 pm
I like Kingston. He hasn’t apologized to Rush yet.
And he is willing to go on the Bill Maher show and get schooled several times a year. Fact is, I don’t think he knows it is happening to him.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
12:10 pm
Generally, better than most people sent to Washington, D.C. Darwin.
Spoken as a fact? “I think it is true so there must be a study somewhere backing up what I think is reality.”
sailfish
February 8th, 2013
12:12 pm
finn
Kingston knows, he’s just a good sport and most importantly, tolerant of differing views.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
12:14 pm
“I’m proud of the fact that I tend to believe as the founders did and even more, I do not deny my God in the face of banal indecent self centered human conduct.”
The Founders specifically stayed away from forcing their religious views on others, Aesop, yet you and Broun’s type of elected official clearly don’t have the same reservations. In that regard, you fail the Founder’s test of limited government.
“Only the ones that deal with social diseases like abortion”
In case you missed it, a disease is something that makes someone sick – not an action. Nice try.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
12:16 pm
“Spoken as a fact?”
An observation.
I leave the misrepresentation of “facts” to you, Finn.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
12:17 pm
you fail the Founder’s test of limited government.
Them’s fighting words!
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
12:19 pm
Karl Rove has crossed the Rubicon…..it’s on!
sailfish
February 8th, 2013
12:22 pm
tiberius @ 12:14
Yes..very well said, que the applause!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
12:23 pm
Centrist, thanks for the tip on Adblock Plus!
(Of course, Kyle’s employer might not like it)
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
12:23 pm
err, to stick with JC, “the die is cast”.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
12:26 pm
Tibs – This nation was founded by those seeking refuge from religious persecution. How simple of you to say that the Constitution was written for the “separation of church and state” when those words do not even appear in the Constitution. The exact wording is “congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” Which reflects the desire of the founders not to be persecuted by the government as they had been in Europe.
The more you speak, the more you expose your liberalism, my man.
Centrist
February 8th, 2013
12:27 pm
Broun ignores at least these Founders who took a dim view of Christian theocracy:
Paine, Henry, Washington, Adams, Madison, Jefferson, Franklin, and Lincoln.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
12:28 pm
And Aesop doesn’t even see the contradiction in what he just wrote.
Kyle Wingfield
February 8th, 2013
12:29 pm
Yes, Tiberius, I expect you, Centrist and everyone else to pay for a digital subscription if you’re going to use an ad blocker. My family likes to eat…
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
12:30 pm
How many saps out there think the Constitution says “separation of church and state?”
And do you ever notice how the God hating socialists never try to twist up this – “or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;”
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
12:31 pm
I tell you what, finn, you are welcome to point it out to me. Unless, of course, you’re just mealy mouthing.
southpaw
February 8th, 2013
12:33 pm
sailfish @12:03
I am not, and have never been, Tiberius.
Tiberius is smarter than I am.
Progressive, Liberal, Lefty...informed thinker
February 8th, 2013
12:33 pm
“Conservative” now means, radical, extreme, weird, out of touch, obstructionist, christianist, ignorant, insincere, flakey, rigid, wrong….
What a shame that Broun will probably be the next Senator from GA.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
12:33 pm
Matter of fact, if you follow the logic from the people’s republic of Anka, the Constitution calls for a “separation of press and state.” Hahahahahahahaha, bozos.
Politico
February 8th, 2013
12:33 pm
Aesop
Majority of Founding Fathers were not born in Europe. Some studied and lived there during their life times.
Which exact ones were persecuted in Europe due to their religious beliefs?
FYI: The Pilgrims were not what is considered the “Founding Fathers”, but do carry on.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
12:34 pm
I totally missed this.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011/12/12/today-in-dishonest-fox-news-charts/185162
In 2009, Fox reportedly sent an email to staff announcing “zero tolerance for on-screen errors.” The memo hasn’t stuck
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
12:36 pm
“How simple of you to say that the Constitution was written for the “separation of church and state” when those words do not even appear in the Constitution.”
How disingenuous of you to claim I have ever said anything of the sort, Aesop.
I’m not a conservative nor a liberal. I am a Constitutionalist, something you really don’t understand. I want neither the liberals fiscal interference in my life, nor your conservative social interference.
You’ll find that our Founding Fathers generally believed in a Higher Power, yet just as generally, distrusted organized religion. In many ways, it was their Masonic influence which guided them in matters of belief.
You really don’t know the Founding Fathers at all, Aesop.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
12:37 pm
I’ll bet not even 1/4 of the people that have emigrated to this nation have done so because they felt religiously persecuted. I am willing to bet most people have done so for financial reasons — the ability to make a better living here than their old country.
The whole persecution thing is a Sunday school lie meant to keep people’s butts in the pews. Keep the gullible putting their hard-earned money into the collection plates.
Dave
February 8th, 2013
12:38 pm
Kyle, I don’t want to take food from your family’s collective mouth; but, could you talk the IT folks into speeding up the website. There are times it reminds me of dial-up without the funky sound.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
12:39 pm
There should be a ban on posters who go off topic before the first 100 comments are made.
1961_Xer
February 8th, 2013
12:40 pm
I am a constitutional conservative. I simply can’t vote for anyone that believes the world is 6000 years old. PERIOD.
indigo
February 8th, 2013
12:43 pm
If extreme fundamentalist Christians ever gain full control of our Government, this is what we can eventually expect.
http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/crime/alleged-witch-burned-alive-in-papua-new-guinea/nWJft/
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
12:44 pm
could you talk the IT folks into speeding up the website.
They can’t afford to after what they have to pay Kyle.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
12:44 pm
Hyperbole much, Indigo?
This is WHY we have a Constitution, sonny.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
12:45 pm
The Pilgrims were not what is considered the “Founding Fathers”, but do carry on.
I guess I’m a history teacher today.
Tibs – We were a colony of Great Britain until 1776. See, War, The Revolutionary.
Do I really have to go dig around to show you what influence the Mayflower Compact had on the US Constitution?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
12:46 pm
Excuse me, 12:45 was @politico not @Tibs.
indigo
February 8th, 2013
12:46 pm
CC – 11:54
And your observations here are about as important as a barking chihuahua.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
12:48 pm
Your beef with the Pilgrims comment is with Politico, Aesop, not me.
Please pay attention and focus. You’re already getting schooled enough by me as it is.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
12:48 pm
Tibs – How do you know that my Masonic influence didn’t guide me in matters of belief?
sailfish
February 8th, 2013
12:50 pm
aesop
You really need to crack a history book and realize that the founders intentionally stayed away from religious beliefs in our constitution. Afterall, they don’t call the dark ages that for nothing and the renaissance the rebirth of learning, was the response. Yes, they believed in a higher power but knew that there were many views and differing ways to express it, hence the separation of church and state which has been the most brilliant aspect of our constitution even though those words aren’t in it – it is understood.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
12:50 pm
However, the comment by Politico was entirely correct. No one equates William Bradford to Jefferson, Madison or Jay.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
12:51 pm
The whole persecution thing is a Sunday school lie meant to keep people’s butts in the pews. Keep the gullible putting their hard-earned money into the collection plates.
Public education system, eh?
Pilgrims (US), or Pilgrim Fathers (UK), is a name commonly applied to early settlers of the Plymouth Colony in present-day Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States. Their leadership came from the religious congregations of Brownist English Dissenters who had fled the volatile political environment in the East Midlands of England for the relative calm and tolerance of 16th–17th century Holland in the Netherlands. Concerned with losing their cultural identity, the group later arranged with English investors to establish a new colony in North America.
Politico
February 8th, 2013
12:51 pm
Aesop
Nothing you said addressed your exact comments I referred too. Now you are tap dancing with two right feet and it doesn’t look pretty.
You are welcome to move the goal posts via semantics and make yourself believe what you said was true, but that in itself does not address your own words.
Ralph-43
February 8th, 2013
12:52 pm
There should be a law against failed physicians running for public office. Broun practiced without a license in the past and was placed on probation. Now, he wants us to place him in the United States Senate? A good memory, attention to detail, and careful consideration of rules and regulations would be necessary. Also, we know that this fellow never really mastered his basic college biology, zoology, physics, and embryology science courses. That makes him dangerous when it comes to discussion of weapons, nuclear development in Iran, basic math, and other requirements for the office. So, no matter what party he belongs to, this guy is a definite no no.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
12:55 pm
“How do you know that my Masonic influence didn’t guide me in matters of belief?”
Well, Aesop, if you ARE a Mason, you should know that there is no requirement to belong to or practice a specific religion, but only to believe in a Higher Power. You should also know that there are no Masonic ceremonies which advocate or incorporate any specific religious beliefs.
md
February 8th, 2013
12:56 pm
Dusty….to answer your water question downstairs:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/amapple/3583667471/
Jerome Horwitz
February 8th, 2013
12:57 pm
Paul Broun – Send a Dufus to the Senate.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
12:58 pm
umm, Aesop, the pilgrims wren’t the first people to come here. They were just one small group of people out of many. Noteworthy that they ran away from their religious troubles instead of facing them.
I bet they were a bunch of whacked out fundamentalists like we have all over the south today.
MiltonMan
February 8th, 2013
12:59 pm
…and the democrats are still sitting on the sidelines overheard saying, “You go ahead & enter into the race & become the sacrificial lamb.”
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
1:00 pm
“hence the separation of church and state which has been the most brilliant aspect of our constitution even though those words aren’t in it – it is understood.”
I’ll disagree with your statement, sailfish, in this regard: It is not understood, but misunderstood, specifically in regards to freedom FROM religion. I see no issue with any public displays such as specific holiday decorations and such, nor with allowing person prayers in school. My belief is that those who are offended by such are simply serial troublemakers or extremely weak-willed if they believe such displays with harm them.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
1:01 pm
Your beef with the Pilgrims comment is with Politico, Aesop, not me.
Please pay attention and focus. You’re already getting schooled enough by me as it is.
That’s cute, Tibs. I can’t distinguish between you and these other libs so you gain the upper hand, for a moment.
GFY (good for you.)
By the way, I’m actually providing facts to what I say instead of just babbling off at the mouth, like a lib. And that my friend, takes a bit of research, something you know nothing about.
Centrist
February 8th, 2013
1:02 pm
The concept of separating church and state is often credited to the writings of English philosopher John Locke (1632–1704). These views on religious tolerance and the importance of individual conscience, along with his social contract, became particularly influential in the American colonies and the drafting of the United States Constitution. The actual phrase “separation of church and state” is derived from a letter written by President Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to Baptists from Danbury, Connecticut, and published in a Massachusetts newspaper soon thereafter. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment of the Constitution states: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”
The historical intent is clear, even if those who wish it weren’t attempt to parse the Constitutional verbage.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
1:03 pm
“Noteworthy that they ran away from their religious troubles instead of facing them.”
Written by someone who knows absolutely nothing of the consequences of religious persecution in the 16th and 17th centuries.
MiltonMan
February 8th, 2013
1:03 pm
“Personally praying that either Broun or Karen Handel emerges from this scrum. And that Kasim Reed runs against that person.”
“Big Ears” Reed would campaign on:
(1) Well I did support the TSPLOST
(2) I am best buddies with Obama
(3) I favor spending taxpayer money to keep the Falcons from moving out of state.
The clown wiil be lucky to win 30% of the vote.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
1:05 pm
I can’t support my town spending tax dollars on Christmas ornaments when they don’t spend any money on Ramadan ornaments or Passover ornaments.
md
February 8th, 2013
1:05 pm
Geez Finn, thanks for the chuckle @ 12:34……I sure hope you noticed the irony in the huge monster blocks mediamatters used to counter the other charts…..nothing like a good optical illusion.
That’s hilarious……
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
1:05 pm
“By the way, I’m actually providing facts to what I say”
You mean, by equating the “Pilgrim Fathers” to the “Founding Fathers”, Aesop?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
1:06 pm
Well, Aesop, if you ARE a Mason, you should know that there is no requirement to belong to or practice a specific religion, but only to believe in a Higher Power. You should also know that there are no Masonic ceremonies which advocate or incorporate any specific religious beliefs.
Why do you keep moving the goal posts around like a lib?
Your comment specifically said “masonic influence guided.” I didn’t come back saying I was a Mason. Maybe be masonic at one time lead me to explore Christianity and I became a believer and properly renounced the Masons. Which is the exact same precept you compared the founding fathers to.
Try not to get confused, OK?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
1:07 pm
Tiberius doesn’t need facts, Aesop. What ever he speaks is the fact, the truth, and the law.
Research is for takers, not makers.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
1:07 pm
“I can’t support my town spending tax dollars on Christmas ornaments when they don’t spend any money on Ramadan ornaments or Passover ornaments.”
And as soon as those are declared national holidays, Finn, you might actually have a point.
But you don’t.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
1:08 pm
How did we get on pilgrims and religious persecution?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
1:09 pm
Aesop
Nothing you said addressed your exact comments I referred too. Now you are tap dancing with two right feet and it doesn’t look pretty.
Politico – So you don’t believe we had a Revolutionary War?
sailfish
February 8th, 2013
1:09 pm
“I see no issue with any public displays such as specific holiday decorations and such, nor with allowing person prayers in school. My belief is that those who are offended by such are simply serial troublemakers or extremely weak-willed if they believe such displays with harm them.”
It’s a grey area for me, because it opens up too many other doors such as muslim prayer worship, satanic prayer worship – I know that’s extreme yet you can’t play favorites – I’d rather they all keep it private.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
1:12 pm
“I didn’t come back saying I was a Mason.”
Really, Aesop? I submit for your perusal the following comment by you:
“Aesop’s Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
12:48 pm
Tibs – How do you know that my Masonic influence didn’t guide me in matters of belief?
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Note the word “my” in your statement, followed by the words “Masonic influence”. Clearly denoting a claim of a personal Masonic relationship.
Nice try.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
1:12 pm
I think Ashley Judd is going to school Karl Rove before election of 2014 rolls around.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
1:13 pm
Very first line in the Wiki entry titled “The History of the United States” -
The history of the United States as covered in American schools and universities typically begins with either Christopher Columbus’s 1492 voyage to the Americas or with the prehistory of the Native peoples, with the latter approach having become increasingly common in recent decades.[
And here I am in a blog full of psychotics who think it all began when Jefferson said his first disparaging remarks about Christianity. Go figure.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
1:13 pm
I agree, keep it private and personal.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
1:15 pm
“I didn’t come back saying I was a Mason.”
Really, Aesop? I submit for your perusal the following comment by you:
“Aesop’s Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
12:48 pm
Tibs – How do you know that my Masonic influence didn’t guide me in matters of belief?
Tibs – You can check out of the Masons anytime you’d like but you can never leave?
Welcome to the Hotel Lunafornia.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
1:17 pm
“And here I am in a blog full of psychotics who think it all began when Jefferson said his first disparaging remarks about Christianity.”
In the immortal words of Ronald Reagan, Aesop, “There you go again”.
If you cannot counter arguments with facts, don’t try to create someone else’s argument out of thin air, OK?
Kyle Wingfield
February 8th, 2013
1:18 pm
Dave @ 12:38: I understand there are some changes and upgrades in the works.
Kyle Wingfield
February 8th, 2013
1:18 pm
Finn @ 12:44: If only!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
1:18 pm
Aesop is turning into MarkV with his wordsmithing excuses.
indigo
February 8th, 2013
1:21 pm
Tiberius – 12:44
Our Constitution is what the Supreme Court says it is.
If Christian Fundamentalists took over, a fundamentalist Court would intrept the Constitution as they pleased.
You just don’t bother to think before posting, sportie.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
1:21 pm
And Tibs is turning into jamvet being disingenuous.
sailfish
February 8th, 2013
1:22 pm
kyle
I buy a paper copy every day, best bang for the buck IMO
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
1:25 pm
If Christian Fundamentalists took over, a fundamentalist Court would intrept the Constitution as they pleased.
indie – You might read the Constitution when you get a chance. You know, the three branches and all that.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
1:25 pm
Tibs – If I’m being too hard on you, just let me know. I believe in a fair fight.
indigo
February 8th, 2013
1:30 pm
If fundamentalists get their way, ALL THREE BRANCHES will be filled with the true believers, you moron.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
1:33 pm
“If Christian Fundamentalists took over, a fundamentalist Court would intrept the Constitution as they pleased.”
Don’t equate “interpret” with “disregard”, Indigo.
You can come out from under your bed now.
Just Saying..
February 8th, 2013
1:34 pm
Wow, Tib @ 12:14.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
1:35 pm
“If I’m being too hard on you, just let me know.”
Well, considering you haven’t landed a blow yet, Aesop, I wasn’t sure I was even IN a fight. . . .
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
1:35 pm
indie – See, I’m just trying to help and you let your face turn blue. Easy, man. All three branches of government being full of fundies (yes, we put the fun in fundamentalism) would require quite a few election victories by the fundies, which is something I pray for on a regular basis but let’s not get off track. You know what a vote is, don’t you?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
1:36 pm
Just Saying, if you bothered to actually READ what I post, you wouldn’t be so surprised at my 12:14.
Kyle Wingfield
February 8th, 2013
1:37 pm
And it’s very much appreciated, sailfish!
Dusty
February 8th, 2013
1:37 pm
Hey, hey, freedom of speech reigns here (except for Kyle’s rules) so relax.
If you want a good discussion, let us consider THE FOUNDING MOTHERS. Now that’s a fine crowd. Some were even out loading cannons and that sort of thing.. Martha made sandwiches every day for George and ran Mt. Vernon besides. Do I ever hear that mentioned? NO! Shame on you of little recognizance!!
Give those mamas their due!
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
1:38 pm
OK, Tibs, I’ll stop. Anytime you want to get back to rationally discussing the founding fathers being good and decent men and not hell bent on providing abortions, just let me know.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
1:41 pm
“Anytime you want to get back to rationally discussing the founding fathers being good and decent men and not hell bent on providing abortions, just let me know.”
And anytime you wish to discuss my views, rather than rewriting them to suit your delusions, Aesop, you let me know.
Just Saying..
February 8th, 2013
1:44 pm
“Just Saying, if you bothered to actually READ what I post, you wouldn’t be so surprised at my 12:14.”
Ah, Tib, gracious as ever.
I do read what you post, Tib.
That’s why your 12:14 was so unusual…
Centrist
February 8th, 2013
1:52 pm
Nice that we have posters here to replace Dan Akroyd and Jane Curtain with their SNL slams that always escalated from:
“Jane, you ignorant slut” and “Dan, you pompous ass.”
CC
February 8th, 2013
1:53 pm
Tib:
I didn’t know you were a “sportie”?
indigo
February 8th, 2013
1:55 pm
CC
You, however, are a moronn
indigo
February 8th, 2013
2:01 pm
Tiberius, Aesop, CC
Read and learn:
From Jerry Falwell
“The idea that religion and politics don’t mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country”
and
“I hope I live to see they day when, as in the early days of our country, we won’t have any public schools. The Churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them.
and, this zinger from Pat Robinson
“There is no such thing as separation of Church and State in the Constitution. It is a lie of the left”.
An “it can’t happen here attitude” does not seem to be recommended, does it boys?
sailfish
February 8th, 2013
2:09 pm
dusty
Here’s a shout out to all those fantastic nuns – don’t know if they exist anymore but they sure were great educators with or without their rulers!
aesop
You would do well to have a bit of skepticism concerning our founding fathers and their private lives, how many had slaves and would’ve probably not been all too reluctant to abort an unwanted slave child? They were fallable men, brilliant in creating our constitution, but they were not gods.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
2:17 pm
sail – Yes, Eve ate the apple. No one is without sin, except perhaps obozo, if you listen to him about it.
By the way, why would you abort a future commodity? Did they teach you that in duh public school system?
sailfish
February 8th, 2013
2:25 pm
aesop
At least I got an education, you? Not so much judging from your inability to engage in thoughful debate.
Centrist
February 8th, 2013
2:39 pm
I score it 85 – 85 under the MUST system after 7 rounds with two knockdowns each, and many low blows. There have not been many clean breaks, and punching after the bell. I don’t see this fight going the distance of 15 rounds before a TKO, or elimination for rabbit punching.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
2:43 pm
sail – Foraging about for reasons to deny our Christian founding as a nation, as a means to justify the choices you make in your own life, is not “thoughtful debate.”
Centrist
February 8th, 2013
2:49 pm
Oh wait, let me revise my prediction. They are arm weary, flat footed, and both holding on in the clinches. They are bleeding profusely and eyes are swollen shut (probably prior to the fight). Looks to be a draw, and the crowd is restless waiting for the fights higher on the card prior to the main event.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 8th, 2013
2:53 pm
When is the last time someone who jumps first ever won anything. I’m thinking of Tim Pawlenty and John Kasich’s presidential runs. I’m sure someone out there can think of someone who lead from start to finish, but there can’t be many.
I think he has zero chance, no matter when he gets in, but maybe he thinks the longer he is in, the further he can get from some of his dumb remarks.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
2:53 pm
We need to bring back the inquisition. We haven’t had a good heretic burning in ages.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
2:57 pm
I am not Catholic, finn, but thanks anyway. For future reference, they usually vote dummycrat.
Centrist
February 8th, 2013
2:58 pm
@ Finn – Those Spaniards and Conquistadors sure had a great sense of humor – passed a lot of it on to the Puritans in Massachusetts.
sailfish
February 8th, 2013
2:59 pm
aesop
I do not agree with that our nation had a christian founding. There were men of the christian faith who participated in the constitution as there were atheists. The constitution is mainly a secular document and rightfully so.
I guess the salem witch hunt was justified in your world.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
3:02 pm
Your not catholic? Burn him!
Jerome Horwitz
February 8th, 2013
3:03 pm
Actually the purpose of the Constitution was to strengthen the power of the Federal government. The Artilces of Confederation were ineffective and we essentially had thirteen different countries who couldn’t get along let pass legislation for the fledgling nation.
Jerome Horwitz
February 8th, 2013
3:04 pm
Nobody escpaes the Spanish Inquisition.
Centrist
February 8th, 2013
3:04 pm
Instead of lions against the Christians, how about a world Super Bowl of Jihadists against Crusaders?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
3:06 pm
I’m sure the founding fathers never expected the price of chicken wings to hit $3.00 a pound.
I mean what the hell is going on?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
3:09 pm
Jihadists against Crusaders?
We know who would win that. When’s the last time you saw a christian willing to blow themselves up for what they believe? Not even the Fundamentalist Christians are that dedicated.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 8th, 2013
3:10 pm
I’m sure the founding fathers never expected the price of chicken wings to hit $3.00 a pound.
I mean what the hell is going on?
It is called ethanol, Finn. We used to eat and drink our corn, now we burn it.
d
February 8th, 2013
3:13 pm
Personally, I’m glad Mr. Broun is running for state-wide office. I really don’t think he has the state-wide appeal, and frankly, he is one of the more embarrassing members of the Georgia delegation. I don’t think a Democrat will win the seat unless the Republicans are silly enough to actually make him the nominee – so unless you want a Democrat in the US Senate from Georgia, Paul Broun should not be on the ballot in November, 2014.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
3:15 pm
Indigo, re: your 2:01?
Please remind me in what capacity Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell served in any government office.
Any at all.
Even one.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
3:15 pm
I thought Congress canceled that ethanol requirement??
CC
February 8th, 2013
3:16 pm
“I’m sure the founding fathers never expected the price of chicken wings to hit $3.00 a pound. I mean what the hell is going on?”
Ethanol, as Rafe said, combined with the insane borrowing and never-ending printing of currency.
Send Hussein the bill . . .
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
3:18 pm
The Declaration of Independence, the most famous document produced by the Continental Congress during the War for Independence, proclaims: “We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” As well, this text references “the laws of nature and of nature’s God” and closes by “appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world” and noting the signers’ “reliance on the protection of divine Providence.” The Founders’ use of Christian rhetoric and arguments becomes even more evident if one looks at other statements of colonial rights and concerns such as the Suffolk Resolves, the Declaration of Rights, and the Declaration of the Causes and Necessity of Taking up Arms—to say nothing of the dozen explicitly Christian calls for prayer, fasting, and thanksgiving issued by the Continental and Confederation Congresses.
It also receives interesting empirical support from Donald Lutz, who examined 15,000 pamphlets, articles, and books on political subjects published in the late 18th century. His study found that the Bible was cited far more often than any other book, article, or pamphlet. In fact, the Founders referenced the Bible more than all Enlightenment authors combined.
Simply put, the Founders were creating a national government for a very few limited purposes—notably those enumerated in Article I, Section 8. There was almost universal agreement that if there was to be legislation on religious or moral matters, it should be done by state and local governments.
There’s that pesky word again, “limited government.”
indigo
February 8th, 2013
3:19 pm
Tiberius – 3:15
Well, golly, Robertson and Falwell have been known to influence large numbers of Christian VOTERS, and boy howdy, those Republican politicians just LOVE voters.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
3:21 pm
So your fear is once again unjustified, Indigo, since you can’t point to any.
Thanks for not playing.
You may go back to hiding under your bed.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
February 8th, 2013
3:27 pm
Aesop, in case you missed it, Christian principles are not exclusive to Christianity. In fact, except for a few passages that have been warped by jihadists, the Koran is very similar in it’s teachings, as is Hinduism and Buddhism. In fact, even the teachings of Native America tribes have similarities to the basic tenets of Christianity, irregardless of some of the animal icons.
Christians do not even remotely have a monopoly on good, Aesop, and have also done much harm in the name of their God.
So while we are a nation founded by men who happened to be largely Christian in their beliefs, we are not, nor ever will be a Christian nation.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
3:31 pm
Thanks Tibs – Look back and you will see that I started this whole thing by saying we have gotten away from our founding Christian principles and you, finally, after all that, agree with me.
Appreciate it.
CC
February 8th, 2013
3:31 pm
“those Republican politicians just LOVE voters.”
Dimocrats don’t?
Hussein never met a voter he wouldn’t buy with ‘freebies’!
md
February 8th, 2013
3:35 pm
“Here’s a shout out to all those fantastic nuns – don’t know if they exist anymore but they sure were great educators with or without their rulers!”
Speaking of…..I don’t care if she is catholic, she has a sense of humor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jrh_uuPmd0
Matz
February 8th, 2013
3:50 pm
Retar- er, I mean, reality-disabled US citizens are still citizens who not only have just as much right to run for Senate as any other citizens, but they have four times the chance of getting financial support from billionaire-backed, “grass-roots” conservo-tron organizations as a regular, thinking citizens. Stupid is as stupid says. This guy will have lots of support here.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
February 8th, 2013
3:53 pm
and christianity is mostly based on old pagan rituals and beliefs.
So, America was founded on pagan beliefs.
Michael H. Smith
February 8th, 2013
4:00 pm
The few Christians among the founders of this nation never intended this country to have a single national religion likened unto the Church of England.
Though the majority of the people in this country identify with the Christian faith Conservatives can no more “Christianize” this nation, than the Liberals can “Lionize” Teddy Kennedy in the Senate with a title of “nobility”.
indigo
February 8th, 2013
4:07 pm
Michael H. Smith
I agree its unlikely that Conservatives will ever Christianize our nation.
However, they are a determined lot and will NEVER give up trying.
We can not just ignore them and hope they will go away.
md
February 8th, 2013
4:10 pm
Hmmm……the ultimate arrogance?
http://news.yahoo.com/activists-push-path-citizenship-nothing-less-172128626.html
What’s next, criminals dictate to judges sentencing guidelines?
Amazing……
Michael H. Smith
February 8th, 2013
4:20 pm
I don’t want them to go away indigo and I have less concern to fear them than I have of the so-called Progressives a.k.a. socialist liberal democrats. The Crusades and Inquisition may have been bloody and murderous but they pale to compare with the evils that has taken place under the various Marxist governments.
For the record I identify with the Christian faith and the last thing I want or any other person who is anything close to an actual Christian would want, indigo, is this idea of an anthropological-Theocracy you seem to think the zealots will achieve. You cannot understand why but safe to say, they won’t.
Steve Dunbar
February 8th, 2013
4:23 pm
Price vs. Broun…let the race to the bottom begin.
Do not hold your breath waiting for someone in the State GOP leadership to say both of these
men are wrong for the job and Georgia should be able to do better.
Michael H. Smith
February 8th, 2013
4:25 pm
By electing a democrat?
CC
February 8th, 2013
4:28 pm
The folks worried about the black helicopters now have something new to REALLY cause them concern!
Drones, or whatever else Team Obama decides to use . . .
Now that Team Obama has declared itself legally able to ‘terminate’ American citizens abroad without due process, is it not just a matter of time before it is done on American soil? Will those who express opposition to this administration or the federal government be likely targets?
Body count to be released by the administration at some future time.
Stay tuned . . .
Michael H. Smith
February 8th, 2013
4:30 pm
We’ll see how this thing plays out Kyle. For now I’ll wait to name who[which Republican] I’m backing.
Michael H. Smith
February 8th, 2013
4:35 pm
You mean obama has gone further with his power grab than Bush and his old Patriot Act did.
Bush made obama do it.
Michael H. Smith
February 8th, 2013
4:37 pm
YES THE ABOVE COMMENT @ 4:35 MADE BY ME WAS MEANT SARCASTICALLY
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
4:41 pm
This damn lib is totally insane -
There shall be a ban on motor vehicle travel beginning at 4:00 PM today and continuing until further notice. This travel ban shall not apply to the following: public safety vehicles and public safety workers, including contract personnel, public works vehicles and public works workers, including contract personnel; government officials conducting official business, utility company vehicles and utility workers; healthcare workers who must travel to and from work in order to provide essential health services; news media, travel necessary to maintain and deliver critical private sector services such as energy, fuel supplies and delivery, financial systems and the delivery of critical commodities, travel to support business operations that provide critical services to the public, including gasoline stations, food stores and hardware stores. Given this 8th day of February in the year of our Lord two thousand and thirteen at 12:15PM.
Well, except for the year of our Lord part.
Michael H. Smith
February 8th, 2013
4:44 pm
Supper time is getting close, might be back later.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
4:44 pm
Yes, Tiberius, I expect you, Centrist and everyone else to pay for a digital subscription if you’re going to use an ad blocker.
By the way, doesn’t the supporting cast in TV shows and movies get paid as well as the producer, director and the star? We’re working mighty cheap here, Kyle.
There should be a ban on posters who go off topic before the first 100 comments are made.
Well that’d be the end of me.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
4:48 pm
What’s next, criminals dictate to judges sentencing guidelines?
That might not work; I give you Exhibit A….
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/giggling-woman-flips-judge-bird-judge-not-amused-210739814.html
CC
February 8th, 2013
4:59 pm
Hillbilly:
She will have a little time to review and refine her actions . . . or reactions.
Kyle Wingfield
February 8th, 2013
5:03 pm
I don’t know how y’all got on the topic of sodomy, but that’s quite enough — all of you involved in the discussion.
getalife
February 8th, 2013
5:05 pm
” the White House on Friday detailed what it said would be the painful impact on the federal workforce and certain government assistance programs if “large and arbitrary” scheduled government spending cuts are allowed to take place beginning March 1.
They include layoffs or furloughs of “hundreds of thousands” of federal workers, including FBI agents, U.S. prosecutors, food safety inspectors and air traffic controllers, said White House budget officials at a briefing and in a fact sheet that included these examples of what the cuts would mean:
_ About 70,000 young children would be kicked off Head Start, 10,000 teacher jobs would be put at risk and up to 2,100 food safety inspections might have to be canceled.
_Up to 373,000 “seriously mentally ill adults and seriously emotionally disturbed children” would go untreated, up to 1,000 fewer National Science Foundation research grants and effecting some 12,000 scientists and students could be threatened, many small business loans denied, workplace safety inspections curtailed, federally assisted programs like “Meals on Wheels” slashed and 125,000 low-income renters put at risk of losing government-subsidized housing.
_ Approximately 424,000 fewer HIV tests could be conducted by state agencies working with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and some 100,000 formerly homeless people, including veterans, would be removed from their current housing and emergency shelter programs.
The White House said the so-called mandatory sequester cuts represent a threat to national security and the economy.
“There is no reason – no reason – for that to happen,” President Barack Obama said Friday” AP
That is what broun wants.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
5:17 pm
cherokee – You stretching out the scriptures of the Bible to condemn our government, who by no stretch of any imagination “help the poor and the needy,” is not going to make me cry, trust me. This government of ours has done more harm to the poor and needy than any good by magnitudes and I’m pretty sure the Lord realizes it.
Since we’re trading Bible verses today, why don’t you go read what Jesus says about harming the children and millstones. If you have any sense at all about you, you really will weep.
Dusty
February 8th, 2013
5:18 pm
Well, the greatest letterwriter of all times wrote this:
“Finally, brethren,whatever is true,whatever is honorable,whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely,whatever is gracious, if there is any exellence,if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.”
He ended his letter with this: “The grace of the Lord Jesus be with your spirit.”
The writer was St. Paul, of course. His letter to the Philippians as recorded in the Bible.
Good advice if I ever heard it.. Try it. It is free.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
February 8th, 2013
5:19 pm
I didn’t see 5:03 until I got back from reading Ezekiel.
Dusty
February 8th, 2013
5:25 pm
getalife, 5:05
But the good news is that we will be reducing the deficit which now stands above 16 trillion.
The president forgot to mention that.
Ray
February 8th, 2013
5:27 pm
Just like Akin, I am afraid; what other crazy ideas does Broun have rambling around his head? I would not want this man to be my father, teacher, nor even doctor, let alone one of the leaders of my country. If Georgia elects this man, it is proof we are willing to let crazies to run the asylum.
Chamber of Commerce, where are you, when we need you? Broun will hurt our ability to draw new capital, resources and jobs to Georgia. Our key statistics are dismal (graduation rates, mortality, livability (traffic, pollution,education, …) We need a Senator who is not seen as being this ignorant.
Kyle, instead of standing back silent, now, we need you to educate the public, so Georgia picks a brilliant, well balanced leader who wants nothing more than to improve the state we are in. Giving Broun this much coverage, doesn’t help us.
Buzzy
February 8th, 2013
5:35 pm
He is a “constitutionalist”. What that really means is that everyone will interpret the Constitution and any other law just as they please, and what you end up with is anarchy.
I’m sure Broun will make some hard core Republicans happy. As a Democrat, he makes me very, very happy. Even Georgia has it’s limits, and a person like Broun will remind Georgia just what kind of lunatic you’ll find in the Republican Party today.
Dusty
February 8th, 2013
5:51 pm
Ray,
So you want Kyle to direct you to a brilliant and balanced man, the perfect candidate..
There is no perfect candidate. Only humans are available and that rules out perfect.
CC
February 8th, 2013
6:17 pm
The requirements of a U. S. Senator are:
1. be a US citizen for at least nine years when elected to the Senate.
2. be at least 30 years of age.
3. be a resident of the state that the Senator represents.
Hmmm . . .
I wonder if the lastest Carter offering will fit these parameters?
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
6:32 pm
3. be a resident of the state that the Senator represents.
If I’m not mistaken, the definition of that varies by state. It gets even murkier in the House, than the Senate, where some guys don’t live in the district they represent. Personally, (and no I don’t expect it to happen) I’d like to see you have to have a 5 or 6 year residency to run for the post. I don’t think the Framers really envisioned candidates (i.e. career politicians) moving from place to place, just to hold office. That’s not really representing the people, in my view. Hillary moved to NY to be a Senator, Cheney changed his residence to Wyoming to be VP and on and on.
CC
February 8th, 2013
6:40 pm
Hillbilly:
I agree. Wasn’t RFK also a NY Senator? It can also be said that the voters who elect a non-resident as Senator get what they deserve!
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
6:45 pm
CC
I believe he was. Both sides have done it quite a bit. I can’t even remember all the guys who have had their district Gerrymandered and moved to another district so they could get re-elected/continue their career. Truth is, most of the Congress really lives in the DC area, for all practical purposes. The Framer’s idea of the “Citizen Legislator” died, long, long ago.
CC
February 8th, 2013
6:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EUzMPlQb2G4
CC
February 8th, 2013
6:49 pm
“The Framer’s idea of the “Citizen Legislator” died, long, long ago.”
That is the biggest shame. It was NEVER intended that we have “career politicians”, and we are the worse for being cursed with them now.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 8th, 2013
7:47 pm
getalife
Barry suggested the sequester,, so at this late date, to try and bargain over cuts already agreed to is deceitful. We need cuts, he agreed to these, and now to back track is deceptive and not good faith bargaining.
The government always overstates the magnitude of the cuts by at least 3 or 4 times. The first thing they always trot is, women, children, and minorities hardest hit. Bull! Just like Panetta saying they can’t maintain 2 aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. We have dozens of carriers, if not more, where are the others cruising and why can’t we move one of those. Because no one would care if we pulled the carrier out of the North Atlantic, so he uses the Persian Gulf as the one to be pulled in. Bull again!
Cry me a river over the cuts! We got by with much less money in 2008, than we will be spending this year even with the cuts. Did women, children, and minorities die on the street from hunger and cold? Bull3!
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 8th, 2013
7:57 pm
Are the sidewalks rolled up?
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
February 8th, 2013
8:01 pm
Guess not, my previous disappeared.
Hillbilly
I agree with your five year residence rule. It is not like each district or state does not have enough of our own homegrown scound rels that want to run for office. We are not in need of any new ones.
Hillbilly D
February 8th, 2013
8:07 pm
Rafe
There’s a newer thread up. It’s pretty slow, too.
The next Republican in the Senate race? Probably not Tom Price | Kyle Wingfield
February 11th, 2013
12:37 pm
[...] Now, that’s not to say Tom Price, who represents Georgia’s 6th Congressional District, won’t run in next year’s election to replace the retiring Saxby Chambliss. But unless no one else gets in the race during the next three months, Price won’t be the next candidate to jump in. (Paul Broun was the first.) [...]