Before dropping out, Chambliss had mixed feelings about running again
The first serious indication I got from Sen. Saxby Chambliss that he wasn’t planning to run for re-election next year came two weeks ago, during an interview at his local office in Cobb County. I put some of it in my write-up of the meeting, and I could have written a whole column about his mixed feelings about running for a third term in the Senate. But I had to balance space considerations (that piece was for the print edition of the AJC) and interest in what the “Gang of Six” member had to say about the fiscal cliff, debt ceiling, etc., so I kept the re-election talk in my column limited and placed at the end. Plus, he gave me no reason to believe he’d announce his intentions for 2014 so soon.
Looking back, and in light of his statement today that he’s leaving due in largest part to “frustration, both at a lack of leadership from the White House and at the dearth of meaningful action from Congress,” I thought I’d publish his entire remarks about whether he’d run and how he’d arrive at the decision:
ON WHETHER HE’S GOING TO RUN FOR RE-ELECTION:
What I’m doing right now, what I do at the end or beginning of every election cycle, we’re evaluating where we are and what our goals are. And the difference … this is an eight-year decision for me. It’s two years plus six years. That’s a lot different form a two-year decision. And if I thought the next eight years were going to be filled with contentious debates and the wrong way to govern that we have just gone through in the last two months, it would have a significant impact on my decision. But yeah, right now my plans are to run.
We’re in good shape financially from a campaign standpoint. Got a lot more money to raise, but we’ll do that. …
First of all, I’ve never backed off from a fight. And I’ve never backed off from my principles of trying to solve problems. Anytime you do that, then you’re going to create controversy. You can’t govern in the way you have to govern under our Constitution without antagonizing or making folks unhappy with you. I don’t worry about that. Obviously I’d love to have everybody happy with me, but I could go up and vote no on everything and you wouldn’t see the opposition activity that is stirring around out there now. But I’m not going to do that. I’m going to do what I think’s right for the country. When I voted for TARP in ‘08, it was the right thing to do. And people are still upset about that. But what they fail to realize is what both Johnny [Isakson] and I said when we voted for it: In the long run, this will not only settle down the financial community, but we’ll [the government] make money. And we’ve made money on TARP. It was kind of a no-brainer back then. And as things have gone forward from that on the other issues that folks have gotten upset about, it was the right thing to do.
So I don’t worry about that — well, I say I don’t worry about that: Obviously you always worry about your political future. But the thing that’s really been encouraging to me, with all the activity stirring around, I have people now instead of stopping me in the grocery store and saying, ‘Let me tell you about my problem,’ they stop me wherever I am and say, ‘Look, we’re reading all this stuff, just know we’ve got your back — those of us who are by far the majority are behind you and appreciate what you’re doing, we just don’t talk to the press or pick up the phone and call you.’
And on the fiscal cliff issue, it’s pretty easy to tell when somebody calls your office whether it’s been generated by an email or something because they’ll reading a script. And by far, the negative comments we got, folks were reading a script.
So, when you take it all into account — I mean, I’m flying back to D.C., I [went] back last week, I had six people stop me in the airport who just, I didn’t know any one of ‘em. But they just came over and said, ‘Look, we just want you to know we appreciate your vote the other day, we appreciate what you’re doing.’ You know, that just doesn’t happen regularly. [Earlier that week] at Lillian Lewis’s funeral, I had five or six people come up and say the same thing. And I’ve had offers of fund raisers from around the country, as well as around the state, from folks, some of whom had never supported me before, because they appreciate doing the right thing. So at the end of the day, we’ll be fine. But we’re going to think things through like we always do, but I think I know what the answer is.
ON WHETHER GRIDLOCK IN WASHINGTON WOULD BE ENOUGH TO MAKE HIM LEAVE:
This’ll be, what, I just concluded 18 years. And when I first got elected to Congress, we were in that wave of Republicans that took over the House, took over the Senate, those were fun times. [Newt] Gingrich was our leader, he had good ideas, we really passed good positive legislation. Sometimes it got done, sometimes it didn’t, although out of the Contract with America, I think we got seven out of the 10 provisions passed. Those were fun times. The time we went through at the end of the year, and really leading up to that — I’ve been working on this fiscal crisis now for two and a half years. And the bumps in the road we’ve run into … in the past couple of months wasn’t as much fun as what it was in ‘95, ‘96 and going forward.
You want to look forward to getting up and going to work in the morning. I really looked forward, in those early years, to getting up and going to work. Sometimes now I think, gosh, we got to get up, we got to face this fiscal battle again tomorrow.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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Conservative Republican
January 25th, 2013
3:38 pm
People want to know why there’s no compromise in Washington. Why no one is getting anything done. This is what happens when Rs try to work with Ds.
I am a conservative Republican, but I wish Saxby would run again. I would vote for him. I would vote for him over Price and I am in Price’s district.
I think the phrase is “work horse over show horse”.
Steve Dunbar
January 25th, 2013
3:47 pm
Kyle’s column and the response to it by the right-wing nuts sure put the nail in the coffin.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 25th, 2013
3:47 pm
Looks like he got tired of all the ceilings and cliffs, like most every other decent thinking person has.
Pizzaman
January 25th, 2013
3:50 pm
Ole Sax ain’t no dummy. He wants one of those GBP jobs before their all gone!
Skip
January 25th, 2013
3:55 pm
It’s not supposed to be fun Sax, that’s why they call it work.Those three day weeks wear you down?
Dusty
January 25th, 2013
4:14 pm
Even the warriors get tired of fighting with the mudhens.
Conservative Republican @ 3:38 is correct. “work horse over show horse”.referring to Saxby..
As our Dem responders show here, they don’t know much about “work.”
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 25th, 2013
4:26 pm
NDAA voting traitor.
And he knows it.
.
TLTDKYAOTWO.
getalife
January 25th, 2013
4:32 pm
The newt said the gop need to pretend to be happy.
Jindal just told the truth for once.
Web site to replace departments.
This fixing the gop thingie is hilarious.
getalife
January 25th, 2013
4:34 pm
Immigration is next.
Good luck with that.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 25th, 2013
4:40 pm
Mr. Obama received 66 million votes in 2012—but four years earlier he recieved 69.5 million.
His support went down, not up.
Good luck with that.
Hillbilly D
January 25th, 2013
4:43 pm
Here’s an interesting viewpoint on immigration.
http://www.fresnobee.com/2013/01/05/3123404/ruben-navarrette-jr-latinos-obamas.html
Politico
January 25th, 2013
4:45 pm
“Mr. Obama received 66 million votes in 2012—but four years earlier he recieved 69.5 million.
His support went down, not up.
Good luck with that.”
And despite the projections for months leading up to the election all that added up to was another Electoral College BLOW OUT and the 1st President since 56 to have at least 51% two times.
But do blather on
Jefferson
January 25th, 2013
4:54 pm
As always when a politician hollars for “leadership” they are full of crap as the won’t follow the lead.
Politico
January 25th, 2013
4:55 pm
Hillbilly
Obama administration has sent home a lot of them, despite the two year amnesty program or whatever they call it.
I doubt anyone is ever going to send them all home and Romney’s “self deportation” comments were, well I will leave it alone.
Time to do a better job sealing the border. No President has seemed to be that serious on that issue and get the one’s here a “work visa” so they can be pay taxes. Fine businesses who use them, enforce that better if possible and move on
Heck, even in many right leaning circles this wasn’t that big of a deal until the economy went south. Some of the same one’s saying send them all home were probably a direct or indirect recipient of their lower labor costs to some degree or another.
As long as there is a demand, they will keep coming. And it is US business who has created the largest demand.
No different than drugs. As long as many in the US want to smoke dope, do coke and other drugs, someone will get them here.
Supply and demand………
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 25th, 2013
5:02 pm
You’ve already heard the liberals twisting up what Bobby Jindal had to say, and I was going to post a bunch of excerpts from it to show the truth, but he summed it up very nicely for me with things I have been saying for a long time -
America already has one liberal party, she doesn’t need another one.
If you believe in higher taxes, more debt, more government spending, weakness abroad, and taking guns from law-abiding citizens – you already have a party that is well represented in Washington.
Game on.
@@
January 25th, 2013
5:02 pm
Looks like Chambliss worries about all the wrong things.
He seems to have a lot of imaginary friends too.
I’ve yet to meet a politician who wasn’t into tootin’ his own horn.
Just Saying..
January 25th, 2013
5:07 pm
“First of all, I’ve never backed off from a fight”
other than Vietnam, I mean…
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 25th, 2013
5:09 pm
politico – The first “president” in history to be re elected with less votes than his first term.
What a hero, what a champion. Perfect for you liberals.
Any retrospective and thoughtful person would be asking “what did I do wrong,” and try to correct it. But I know you proggies, you put the pedal to the metal and turn off even more voters in the future.
And we appreciate it.
md
January 25th, 2013
5:11 pm
“As long as there is a demand, they will keep coming”
Granting the first amnesty and contemplating the second amnesty doesn’t help either. After we do the second one, does any sane individual ever think we would get serious about the issue? Shoot no, the precedent has been set so may as well say we have no laws because we sure as heck don’t ever plan to enforce them. A 3rd grader should be able to figure that one out…….
Politico
January 25th, 2013
5:12 pm
“you put the pedal to the metal and turn off even more voters in the future. ”
And after your grand predictions, keep up the great work
bewhahahahahahahah
getalife
January 25th, 2013
5:15 pm
Don’t change a thing cons because you hate change.
The gop should stay the course and ignore Jindal and the others trying to change your party..
Hillbilly D
January 25th, 2013
5:15 pm
Politico @ 4:55
I’ve said many times that both sides were/are playing a wink, wink, nudge, nudge game.
Democrats see them as future votes and Republicans see them as cheap labor, and that’s why nothing has or really will be done about it.
It’s been about 15-20 years ago but there was a poultry plant in Gainesville, where an immigration raid was conducted. The place had 300 or so employees and it was found to have 10 or so employees using the same ID papers. You can easily guess what happened. The employees were rounded up, the company said they had no idea this was going on and that was the end of it. There was a lot of looking the other way in Gainesville and Dalton for a very long time.
We’ve heard a lot about “creating” temporary work visas for farm workers. There’s already a program for that, H-2A. A lot of the employers are opposed to that because the rules and regulations cost more than they want to spend. They want less expensive regulations, which coincidentally, offer less protection from abuse for the workers.
Couple that with all the stuff going on in H-1B, where workers are brought in because qualified people can’t be found here (translation: people here are qualified want more money). It’s basically a way to bypass the laws of supply and demand that business people claim to love.
In short, it’s a damn mess and it’s going to stay a damn mess, as long as people are making money from the status quo.
Politico
January 25th, 2013
5:18 pm
md
Better to get those working paying taxes because Romney’s “self deportation” program was about as stupid as any mentioned by anyone in either party.
As long as US business will hire, and they are still doing it, the demand will be met. “Even a grader should be able to figure that out…”
You are a fool if you think there is going to be any sort of mass deportation of however many million illegals. Biggest thing slowing down immigration now is the economy not any laws enacted on the state or Fed level.
But of course this is coming from the guy who was giddy and hoping the voting issue with West in FL was a valid story. Just saying
Politico
January 25th, 2013
5:19 pm
“In short, it’s a damn mess and it’s going to stay a damn mess, as long as people are making money from the status quo.”
Agreed.
Just Saying..
January 25th, 2013
5:35 pm
Cons, you can spin this any way you like, but the fact is the Party throws away a near certain win, with three term seniority, for first term (Mack Mattingly, anyone?) replacement, at longer odds.
Or, the same decision making that resulted in:
-loss of the White House
-fewer seats in the Senate
-fewer seats in the House
But if the actual intent is to please the opposition Party…
Mission Accomplished.
Michael H. Smith
January 25th, 2013
5:50 pm
The cons don’t have to spin it lib. You fascist-socialist still lost control of the House last election and you will not win the U.S. Senate seat from Georgia the next time around.
Booowhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaa, brucie!
md
January 25th, 2013
5:55 pm
“You are a fool if you think there is going to be any sort of mass deportation of however many million illegals. Biggest thing slowing down immigration now is the economy not any laws enacted on the state or Fed level. ”
Fool? From the guy that didn’t read what I wrote?
What part of “after the second amnesty” did you not understand?
I have no doubt the powers that be will end up granting amnesty #2……which will do absolutely nothing to solve the problem in the long term.
Amnesty #1 did nothing but INCREASE the number of illegals heading our way, a fool would be one that thinks amnesty #2 wouldn’t do the same…….
Just Saying..
January 25th, 2013
6:03 pm
“You fascist-socialist…”
The name calling is working so well.
Please don’t stop…
Michael H. Smith
January 25th, 2013
6:03 pm
Don’t look now but the bad economy of 2009 – 2012 deported millions of illegal aliens.
Michael H. Smith
January 25th, 2013
6:06 pm
Shoe fits wear it. It works for this con. Oh and I don’t mind my label.
Obviously you do, as it rightly reveals the bad contents.
Politico
January 25th, 2013
6:11 pm
md
Except for on a state level and only within the last few years (see downturn in economy and coinciding new state laws), the Republicans haven’t done much more than the Democrats on the federal level regarding immigration. You have made a choice to continue to vote for them or at least most of them, knowing that they have collectively (not all individually) decided to turn their head for the most part. You made those choices, hence you are part of the problem.
Your program did a great job of instilling the “choices” concept in you. Know it is a double edge sword, so you might want to look in the mirror as much as you like to spread that “choice gospel” to others.
And yes, if you think millions of illegals are going to be sent home by either party, you are a fool.
But do have a great weekend
Michael H. Smith
January 25th, 2013
6:14 pm
Just Saying..
January 25th, 2013
6:15 pm
“Oh and I don’t mind my label….as it rightly reveals the bad contents.”
Something we can all agree on…
md
January 25th, 2013
6:18 pm
“And yes, if you think millions of illegals are going to be sent home by either party, you are a fool. ”
That must be rattling around in YOUR head as I haven’t said anything about it…….
As for choices……you are a bit silly equating them with agreeing with all of what any candidate represents, but I don’t expect much less from you.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 25th, 2013
6:19 pm
Rubio has a decent approach to immigration reform, but it is not going anywhere. The Dems will not allow his program to go through, would benefit the GOP too much. The Dems are in control and they do not want to hear any ideas, even those that are better than theirs, coming from the GOP.
Why should the Dems fix the immigration problem, it helps them every election, the same as the Soc Sec and Medicare problem. Its easier to create fear about the GOP proposed solutions, than defend their own lousy record.
Michael H. Smith
January 25th, 2013
6:20 pm
Someone has a problem connecting the dots that led up to the housing bubble and exactly who, or what parties – yeah, that right, “both political parties” – that blew up that economic balloon, which eventually led to the busted economy that cause millions of illegal aliens to leave or “self-deport” as it truly were?
Made my weekend…
Politico
January 25th, 2013
6:21 pm
choices md, choices
You are part of the problem, you whine and cry about.
Accept and live with it as long as you make those choices.
Glorianna
January 25th, 2013
6:21 pm
Senator, I am so sorry to see you go. I was a Regan Republican, but when I saw the religious right moving in I knew we were in trouble. That group was nothing compared to the Tea Party infusion. I have voted Democrat in elections since Regan. I want the Republican party to be a viable party. We are based on the two party system. I don’t agree with all your positions, but I do respect your willingness to work across the aisle and not follow the Grover Norquist party. Your party needs more like you, not less. Thank you for your service.
Michael H. Smith
January 25th, 2013
6:22 pm
Rubio has a decent approach to immigration reform, but it is not going anywhere.
His is the one most of us “cons” support. It still has possibilities.
Politico
January 25th, 2013
6:24 pm
MHS
If you are not man enough to refer to me and must say “someone”, that speaks volumes about you. If you were not, I apologize, however I was not blaming any party. Merely saying that the immigration issue has really heightened with the downturn of the economy.
If you can show where I or anyone on this thread blamed anyone party, please post it
Thought so, but do have a great weekend.
Tealiban Party
January 25th, 2013
6:43 pm
“We have to stop being the stupid party. It’s time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults.”
You got that right Bobby Jindal…
Serious Robuck
January 25th, 2013
7:08 pm
Saxby says he’s never backed away from a fight. May I ask that he think back to the Viet Nam War. He has always been a coward to the core, and the fact that he’s represented us in the Senate for 12 years is a blight on Georgia. Unfortunately, the entire Republican delegation in the U.S. House of Representatives, i.e. those most likely to run for his seat, are all profoundly worse than Saxby. God help us! We obviously can’t help ourselves.
Serious Robuck
January 25th, 2013
7:09 pm
Sonny Perdue? Right.
md
January 25th, 2013
7:16 pm
“Accept and live with it as long as you make those choices.”
I do, have no problem with it. I also understand if I don’t like it enough I can CHOOSE to run myself. I’m not there yet, I’ll just vote the lesser of two evils and continue to make the choices I need to to combat the powers that be.
I’m sure I’m not alone in choosing to save as much as possible right now vs spend, spend, spend…..but that may be just me. But considering the Obama economy is crawling at 1% growth I’m guessing there are a few others choosing the same plan.
md
January 25th, 2013
7:17 pm
And by the way, what exactly is it that you have against knowing that we choose everything we do?
Does that just blow your mind or something or just an inconvenient truth?
td
January 25th, 2013
7:19 pm
getalife
January 25th, 2013
5:15 pm
Don’t change a thing cons because you hate change.
The gop should stay the course and ignore Jindal and the others trying to change your party..
You do understand that Jindal was telling conservatives to stop playing on the progressive field of name calling and petty issues and get back to the superior conservative philosophy debate.
getalife
January 25th, 2013
7:23 pm
td,
Nice spin.
The gop will ignore reality.
Alpha dog
January 25th, 2013
7:26 pm
Never really liked Saxby but came to respect his common sense approach as his party became more radical. His statue as a statesman and representative of the people he swore to serve grew in comparison to his colleagues . The path to 2014 will be interesting for GA politicos
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 25th, 2013
7:36 pm
Senate for 12 years is a blight on Georgia.
So, Serious, to use your words, what about the blight in the WH, is that a blight on America?
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 25th, 2013
7:40 pm
getalife
Jindal was telling the GOP to quit using the 30 sec sound bites and scripted slogans, they only work on the low information Dem audience, that the GOP, independents, and smarter Dems want some meat in their stew. It was a slap at Romney for failing to provide details about the things he was proposing.
td
January 25th, 2013
7:41 pm
“Senate for 12 years is a blight on Georgia.”
I can not believe a progressive could make that statement when they have just recently lost (died in office not voted out of office) a murderer and a grand wizard of the KKK.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
January 25th, 2013
7:43 pm
Tealiban, I’d rather see the GOP talk like children than have your party of Democrats keep talking to your idiots.
Michael H. Smith
January 25th, 2013
7:47 pm
You and with “your nameless references”, now dare to talk about being… what, man enough!?
Get over your pathetic over bloated self and your socialist liberal spin on things.
If you can show where I or anyone on this thread blamed anyone party, please post it
No need to, you and your ilk have already posted it for me so all can read it.
As I said my weekend was made already. Thanks!
Michael H. Smith
January 25th, 2013
8:00 pm
Just Saying..
January 25th, 2013
6:15 pm
“Oh and I don’t mind my label….as it rightly reveals the bad contents.”
Something we can all agree on
Yes, good it is to see all agree to the bad contents of you and your socialist ilk. Confession is good for the soul.
Michael H. Smith
January 25th, 2013
8:11 pm
Ah… obama lost in court for overstepping his power.
Politico
January 25th, 2013
8:17 pm
md
Nothing about your choice concept or your program “blows my mind”…. You give yourself to much credit for your intellect
Just saying that you might want to look in the mirror when speaking your gospel
Politico
January 25th, 2013
8:19 pm
MHS
Lie much or just on the blog?
Michael H. Smith
January 25th, 2013
8:23 pm
I’ll leave the lying to you, on this blog and everywhere else, considering the job you’re doing here.
Serious Robuck
January 25th, 2013
8:32 pm
td, you’re a card.
Michael H. Smith
January 25th, 2013
8:37 pm
I doubt anyone is ever going to send them all home and Romney’s “self deportation” comments were, well I will leave it alone.
Just as well you did leave Romney’s “self deportation” comments alone with your “inferences” since you obviously missed what a bad economy, cause by both parties, did in reality to cause millions of illegal aliens to self-deport.
But hey, go ahead with your big idea to seal the border while the facts say most illegal aliens are here by way of visa overstays, not illegal border crossings. And, you want to give out more visas?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 25th, 2013
8:42 pm
Documents published online for the first time Thursday indicate that the FBI opened an inquiry into New Jersey Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez on August 1, 2012, focusing on repeated trips he took to the Dominican Republic with longtime campaign contributor and Miami eye doctor Salomon Melgen. The DC reported in November that Menendez purchased the service of prostitutes in that Caribbean nation at a series of alcohol-fueled sex parties.
Information made available to Schwartz and Levine at that time included allegations that some of Menendez’s prostitutes were as young as 16.
sicko
MrLiberty
January 25th, 2013
8:53 pm
Saxby’s biggest concern was likely how soon he would need to get out of the country to avoid criminal prosecution for his time in office. I wonder if they will all head to Paraguay again? I understand that Bush has bought a huge ranch down there. Likely the country must have a weak extradition treaty. Obama is going to need somewhere other than Hawaii when he goes.
wallbanger
January 25th, 2013
9:03 pm
Why is it that the only people that are being considered for the Chambliss post are the same or usual suspects? Why isn’t there new and exciting blood on the scene? I mean, we need a charismatic leader with great rhetoric too. We need someone to extoll the virtues of studying hard, staying in school, working two jobs while in school, and looking for gratification in the future instead of in the moment. I think people are ready for someone who talks to them like adults.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 25th, 2013
9:45 pm
In honor of our dearly departed RINO -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o3gJC5fPB0
Cletus
January 25th, 2013
9:51 pm
Goodbye Saxby and good riddance. You were a weak, ineffective Senator for the people of Georgia. Thank you for stepping aside and giving someone else who is interested in actually doing the job a chance. My money’s on Tom Price.
Buzzy
January 25th, 2013
10:03 pm
Of course, many Republicans will see this as a good thing. Get a real right wing extremist to replace Chambliss.
But isn’t this the same party that says it wants to broaden it’s base? They want to appeal to women and other minorities? They think they can do this with talk and PR alone. It won’t work. I love it because the Republicans get closer every cycle to marching themselves off a cliff. They can’t help themselves.
Lynnie Gal
January 25th, 2013
10:15 pm
Saxby is a sane man so he is bailing out of the “stupid party”. All that’s left of his party are angry middle aged white men living in their mother’s basements.
Just Saying..
January 25th, 2013
10:30 pm
“Senator, I am so sorry to see you go. I was a Regan Republican, but when I saw the religious right moving in I knew we were in trouble. That group was nothing compared to the Tea Party infusion. I have voted Democrat in elections since Regan. I want the Republican party to be a viable party. We are based on the two party system. I don’t agree with all your positions, but I do respect your willingness to work across the aisle and not follow the Grover Norquist party. Your party needs more like you, not less. Thank you for your service.”
Well said…
Don't Tread
January 25th, 2013
10:39 pm
“You can’t govern in the way you have to govern under our Constitution without antagonizing or making folks unhappy with you. I don’t worry about that.”
Well Saxby, you can’t vote to pass unconstitutional laws without making folks unhappy with you either. But apparently you’re not worried about that, either. (Neither are the Democrats.)
Just Saying..
January 25th, 2013
10:44 pm
“There is one clear, overriding lesson from November: We didn’t have enough votes,” Mr. Priebus said.
Relax, guys. He’s only the RNC chairman.
He can’t possibly know as much about politics as you do…
getalife
January 25th, 2013
10:47 pm
“4. We must stop being the stupid party. It’s time for a new Republican party that talks like adults. It’s time for us to articulate our plans and visions for America in real terms. We had a number of Republicans damage the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments. We’ve had enough of that.
5. We must stop insulting the intelligence of voters. We need to trust the smarts of the American people. We have to stop dumbing down our ideas and stop reducing everything to mindless slogans and tag lines for 30-second ads. We must be willing to provide details in describing our views.
6. We must quit “big.” We are not the party of big business, big banks, big Wall Street bailouts, big corporate loopholes, or big anything. We must not be the party that simply protects the well off so they can keep their toys. We have to be the party that shows all Americans how they can thrive. We are the party whose ideas will help the middle class, and help more folks join the middle class. We are a populist party and need to make that clear.
7. We must focus on real people outside of Washington, not the lobbyists and government inside Washington. We must stop competing with Democrats for the job of “Government Manager,” and lay out ideas that can unleash the dynamic abilities of the American people. We need an equal opportunity society, one in which government does not see its job as picking winners and losers. Where do you go if you want special favors? Government. Where do you go if you want a tax break? Government. Where do you go if you want a handout? Government. This must stop. Our government must pursue a level playing field. ” Jindal.
Just Saying..
January 25th, 2013
10:49 pm
Looks like Sarah Palin is newly available…
bu2
January 26th, 2013
12:32 am
“Jindal was telling the GOP to quit using the 30 sec sound bites and scripted slogans, they only work on the low information Dem audience, that the GOP, independents, and smarter Dems want some meat in their stew. It was a slap at Romney for failing to provide details about the things he was proposing.”
Absolutely right about Romney. That’s why the late breaking vote went heavily to Obama. Romney didn’t give them enough specific reasons he would do better.
Bruno
January 26th, 2013
12:59 am
Kyle–Thanks for keeping the place open tonight. Your late-nighters really appreciate it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLKiMbC6s2k
Bruno
January 26th, 2013
1:11 am
Man am I glad that I grew up in the 60s and 70s.
“Song of the Wind” from Santana. Neil Schon plays beautifully on this number.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj0zGxDxXVM
Bruno
January 26th, 2013
1:17 am
No one can make his guitar cry like Carlos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5AUm_xaE9A
Bruno
January 26th, 2013
1:23 am
New thoughts
Will purify my mind
And clean my body
New lives
Will fall together like an endless story
All the love of the universe
Will be shared by all that’s living
And I don’t really care
About tomorrow
Today
Is all I really need to find the answers
I’ll find the constant flow
Of all the harmony
Everybody needs a helpin’ hand
Everybody needs a helpin’ hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4b6Ey7O2Y4
Michael H. Smith
January 26th, 2013
4:14 am
Just Saying..
At least your copy and paste skills are improving, even while your honesty hasn’t.
Keep on telling the world it’s just those old Republicans. The rest of us don’t believe you but you can convince yourself if no one else.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 26th, 2013
6:32 am
Ain’t it great how Obozo brought us all together?
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 26th, 2013
6:34 am
Romney didn’t give them enough specific reasons he would do better.
——–
He certainly couldn’t have done worse than Obozo.
Low-information voters went for the sure thing–the monthly government check.
Whirled Peas
January 26th, 2013
8:02 am
It is time we had some new blood in there. Herman Cain, it’s your turn to stir the puddin in Washington.
Tealiban Party
January 26th, 2013
8:29 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right
January 25th, 2013
7:43 pm
Tealiban, I’d rather see the GOP talk like children than have your party of Democrats keep talking to your idiots.
Then you must be especially pleased with the rhetoric coming from the GOP over the last decade.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
8:31 am
“WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama violated the Constitution when he bypassed the Senate last year to appoint three members of the National Labor Relations Board, a federal appeals court ruled Friday in a far-reaching decision that could severely limit a chief executive’s powers to make recess appointments.
The decision of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit marked a victory for Republicans and business groups critical of the labor board. If it stands, it could invalidate hundreds of board decisions over the past year, including some that make it easier for unions to organize.”
When you can’t get the DC Court of Appeals to agree with you, you’re pretty much wrong with your actions.
And to think this Incompetent used to teach Constitutional law.
Tealiban Party
January 26th, 2013
8:36 am
Lil’ Barry Bailout – OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 26th, 2013
6:34 am
Low-information voters went for the sure thing–the monthly government check.
We can see who the low information voters are LBB.
Top 10 Best (And Worst) Education States and How They Voted
http://www.happyplace.com/19076/election-infographic-shows-most-educated-states-voted-for-obama
indigo
January 26th, 2013
8:39 am
The Catholic Church strongly believes life begins at conception and the fetus most definitely is a person. Until, of course, they get hit with a lawsuit demsnding a large amount of money. Then, they start backtracking faster than you can say “money talks and BS walks”.
Tealiban Party
January 26th, 2013
8:44 am
From the Washington Post…
“Presidents from both parties have made hundreds of recess appointments when the Senate has failed to act on nominations. Ronald Reagan holds the record with 243. Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, made 105…” (Obama has made 29…)
And suddenly its unconstitutional used by an incompetent….
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 26th, 2013
8:47 am
Tealiban apparently confuses attendance at liberal-oriented institutions with wisdom (not to mention common sense).
Just look at Tealiban’s failed messiah–went to multiple “elite” universities, taught constitutional law at another, and yet doesn’t understand the clear meaning of the Constitution as regards recess appointments!
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
8:49 am
TP – Those appointments were made when the Senate was out of session. Completely lawful and legitimate. Do you even understand the issue?
indigo
January 26th, 2013
8:52 am
Barry
As always, you and other cons are the only ones here who call Obama “messiah”.
Sad really.
Your hopeful messiah, Romney, just couldn’t cut it with the voters.
But wait!!!
Republican legislatures are now devising ways to cheat their way to the White House.
You may get your own “messiah” yet!!!
Jack ®
January 26th, 2013
8:59 am
I don’t know why Chambliss wanted the job in the first place since he appears to be an intelligent man. And I don’t blame him for wanting to get out of the turmoil created by Obama and those that support his efforts to bring Marxism to this country.
the red herring
January 26th, 2013
9:02 am
Saxby was a nice enough guy but went along with too much spending. My vote will go to whomever will fight to rein in spending and balance the budget. Obama’s spending spree will continue—over 6 trillion in his first 4 years—even more than that in his next 4. SS disability on track to be broke by 2016—his answer is extend unemployment more than 2 years and get on disability when that runs out. it’s another form of income redistribution. the ant and the grasshopper were perfect examples of how the country is being run—problem is we (the taxpayer) are the ants. the tea party has it right—less government/less spending = less taxes = improved economy. we have more government and more spending than we can afford. we spent 20% of GDP to run the country before obama and in 4 years we now spend 25%—we can’t afford his socialistic ideas it is as simple as that—if we try we become a third world country.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
9:06 am
Why is it that liberals myrmidons like Tealiban can’t tell the whole story when trying to defend their disaster of a President?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
9:09 am
Of course, asking a liberal to understand the Constitution is like asking a 4 year old to understand it.
indigo
January 26th, 2013
9:16 am
Barry – Tiberius
Obama will appeal this to the Supreme Court.
I can’t wait to see your angst when the Court sides with him.
Tealiban Party
January 26th, 2013
9:22 am
Here’s some more to the story for Tiberius….
“..Mr. Bush made 171, including those of John R. Bolton as ambassador to the United Nations and two appeals court judges, William H. Pryor Jr. and Charles W. Pickering Sr.
Nearly all of those appointments would be unconstitutional under the rationale of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.”
Perhaps you, LBB, and Aesop can point me to your old Wingfield posts about how outraged and unconstitutional these appointments were. Waiting…..
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
9:37 am
Nobody sued Bush in court?
Isn’t Romper Room in session now?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
9:40 am
Tealiban, you forgot to mention that the Senate wasn’t actually in recess during Obama’s recess appointments in question.
That’s the whole point of the article.
Oops!
Nice try, though.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 26th, 2013
9:46 am
Obama’s illegal appointments were made while the Senate was in “pro-forma” sessions, and were not officially adjourned. This has never been done before. A clear violation of the Separation of Powers clause. I believe the Appeals court voted unanimously, so the chances that the Supremes will slap down the entire court is doubtful. The Supremes may let it stand and not bring it up, as the Constitution limits “recess appointments” to emergency type situations, when the Senate is between sessions or in complete adjournment.
Just Saying..
January 26th, 2013
9:47 am
“…the Senate wasn’t actually in recess during Obama’s recess appointments in question.”
Because a sham one minute Senate session meets the legal definition of good faith.
For a Republican…
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
10:24 am
No, Just Saying, because when you’re the opposition party and you have no other way to defend this country’s Constitution from assault, you do what is necessary to stop that assault.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
10:31 am
And I find it surprising that you even use the term good faith when President Incompetent has shown nothing of the kind for 4 years and counting.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
10:43 am
But the Wall Street Journal’s Holman Jenkins has noted that although 2012 was 2.13 degrees Fahrenheit hotter than 2011, “2008, in the contiguous U.S., was two degrees cooler than 2006.” And “2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 were all cooler than 1998 by a larger margin than 2012 was hotter than 1998.” Such is the rigor of many who preen as devotees of science that they declared the 2012 temperatures in the contiguous states (1.58 percent of the Earth’s surface) proof of catastrophic global warming.
Remember when the Mayans used to line people up and then sacrifice them to the Sun by cutting their hearts out? Remind you of some people we all know?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
10:46 am
Wanna know what really saved the auto makers?
While Chrysler sold 43,000 tiny Fiat 500s in 2012, it sold over 470,000 Jeeps, vaulting the iconic brand to No. 1 in the SUV market. More than any other vehicle, the Jeep Grand Cherokee has saved the company, leading Chrysler to the largest sales gain of any manufacturer in 2012.
Stocking up on monster trucks before obozo shrinks them down to two wheels.
Dusty
January 26th, 2013
10:51 am
Well well welll,
the US Court of Appeals in the District of Columbia Circuit caught up with Obama trying to squeeze in his labor union leaders. But uh oh! He got caught.. No recess!!
So what do we hear? Bush did it, Bush did it, Bush did it! In other words, if Obama acts like Bush , then it is OK. It can’t be wrong. Now that’s a new attitude for liberals.
The Constitution’s set in stone but liberals grind it into cornpone! (Not my best line but I’m trying.).
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 26th, 2013
10:53 am
BTW Say What, Harry the Reed started the “pro-forma” sessions of Congress to keep Dubyah from doing recess appointments. Harry is the author of that grand strategy. Funny, how things are kewl, when the Dems do it, but turnabout is suddenly inappropriate. W had the good sense to see that Harry had him boxed in by Constitutional restraints and didn’t challenge Harry, but Obama, he thinks the Constitution is a “flawed document” and it is his duty to do whatever he can to get around it.
That is exactly why the Dems didn’t totally do away with the filibuster this week, they know that someday they are going to be in the minority again.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
11:09 am
Steyn and Rameriz for your enjoyment -
A couple of days later, it fell to the 45th president-in-waiting to encapsulate the ethos of the age in one deft sound bite: What difference does it make? Hillary Clinton’s instantly famous riposte at the Benghazi hearings is such a perfect distillation that it surely deserves to be the national motto of the United States. They should put it on Paul Krugman’s trillion-dollar coin, and in the presidential oath:
“Do you solemnly swear to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?”
“Sure. What difference, at this point, does it make?”
http://www.investors.com/editorial-cartoons/michael-ramirez/641829-hillary-clinton-benghazi-military-and-defense
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
11:10 am
Jindal was telling the GOP to quit using the 30 sec sound bites and scripted slogans, they only work on the low information Dem audience, that the GOP, independents, and smarter Dems want some meat in their stew. It was a slap at Romney for failing to provide details about the things he was proposing.
???????????????????????????
“We must stop being the stupid party.” “We must stop looking backward.” “We must stop insulting the intelligence of voters.”
Gov. Bobby Jindal held little back with his sharp words to Republicans Thursday evening, urging his own party to rethink their arguments against Democrats and appeals to voters in his remarks to party members attending the Republican National Committee’s Winter Meeting.
“We must compete for every single vote: the 47 percent and the 53 percent and any other combination of numbers that adds up to 100 percent,” he said, notably invoking comments 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney made at a closed door fundraiser about a bloc of voters who would not consider GOP candidates.
He also spoke out against those and other “completely unhelpful” comments from Romney in a November interview with CNN.
Stupid, backward and insulting.
Hmmmmm.
Any talk of fundamental, significant change in the GOP’s policies and positions of yesteryear is just empty words of course, but even so, it one heckuva stategery…
Dusty
January 26th, 2013
11:14 am
Hey, did anyone notice that this blog was OPEN ALL NIGHT LONG? Yes it was. Bruno was even signing songs at 1:23 am!
So…we have been good boys & girls OR Kyle went to bed early and forgot to turn off the lights!!
Shhhh don’t tell him.. Maybe we can fuss ( politely) all weekend. I mean… discuss politics.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
11:17 am
“Stupid, backward and insulting.”
Describing yourself again, AmVet?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
11:19 am
America already has one liberal party, she doesn’t need another one.
If you believe in higher taxes, more debt, more government spending, weakness abroad, and taking guns from law-abiding citizens – you already have a party that is well represented in Washington. – Bobby Jindal
Dusty
January 26th, 2013
11:25 am
STUPID BACKWARD INSULTING….
I see that JAMVET is here. He’s such a ray of sunshine. Never saw a situation he couldn’t bluster over.
“Let me count the ways I hate you” to paraphrase Elizabeth Browning. JAMVET counts them all, a waste of time.
Republicans are on the move and it is forward. You can’t keep good people down. .
Hillbilly D
January 26th, 2013
11:30 am
Kyle went to bed early and forgot to turn off the lights!!
That’s what runs up the power bill and keeps us from energy independence. Not only that, it’s warmer today than yesterday, so he’s probably contributing to global warming, oops, climate change, too.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
11:40 am
If only the liberals on this blog who keep cherry-picking Jindal’s quotes would actually analyze the whole speech.
But that would be asking too much of them.
Dusty
January 26th, 2013
11:45 am
You are correct, HILLBILLY I believe you. Kyle dun warmed it up.
I am going to order my backyard windmill right now. Go green! Save the earth, the cliimate , the fishes ( the power company bills) !
Sailfish
January 26th, 2013
11:54 am
I guess its the equivalent to breaking into the school yard at night cuz the gates were left open – no harm done.
Dusty
January 26th, 2013
11:58 am
TIBERIUS
“Ours is not to reason why,”
Ours is letting liberals cry,
And sigh and sigh and sigh…
.
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
12:11 pm
Yep, stupid, backward and insulting.
Take it up with the guv, sunspot tibby.
Cuz he’s pointing his finger squarely at………………….. you and your neocon buddies. Not me.
LOL!
But alas, Bobby Jindal is not the answer to the GOP’s problems. Bobby Jindal is the problem.
Why? Though he has the temerity to actually admit that the Republican Party has massive problems, (Like it takes a Sherlock Holmes to figure that one out), he has the same “answer” they all have.
Make NO fundamental changes. Tweak around the edges of the train wreck. But don’t do anything truly significant in terms of policies or positions. Repaint the submarine’s screen doors. Repackage the same old neocon slop as actual conservatism and, “do a better job of getting the message out”. And always, always, always, blame someone, anyone else for your self-inflicted wounds.
Good luck with that strategery, tibby.
And there is no way in hell the worst of you reality averse fanatics are ever gonna listen to him anyway, which means even more November beatdowns like the last one.
Stay stupid, my friends…
Sailfish
January 26th, 2013
12:13 pm
Thank god for liberals, how else would history move forward? If it weren’t for liberals we’d still be loyal to the crown!
Just Saying..
January 26th, 2013
12:13 pm
“…when you’re the opposition party and you have no other way…”
Because of a lack of voter support…
Oh, right, the RNC chairman and Gov. Jindal have already told you that.
But hear you will not…
Dusty
January 26th, 2013
12:33 pm
OH dear, JAMVET’s all upset.
Wants to pick a fight. Ho hum
But if you want to make a bet,
Believe that JIndal is one smart one.
Not raising debt ’til the sun does set.
But you know WHO does. Oh dum de dum!..
then he startsto “snapping heads
Dusty
January 26th, 2013
12:37 pm
Forget that last line.
It sneaked in and doesn’t rhyme.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
12:41 pm
“which means even more November beatdowns like the last one.”
You mean no changes in the control of the WH, House and Senate?
Of course winning a seat or two is your definition of a beatdown, even when you ignore 2010.
Talk about reality averse.
Dusty
January 26th, 2013
12:43 pm
Yes, Sailfish
Liberals fought against a crown
So now they give one to a clown.
In case you do forget,
The one who knows not what is DEBT.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
12:46 pm
Took one look at obozo’s 2nd term agenda and jumped over the side -
Tom Harkin, Iowa’s powerful Democratic U.S. senator, won’t seek re-election in two years, he told The Des Moines Register this morning.
Just Saying..
January 26th, 2013
12:53 pm
TIB: “Talk about reality averse.”
If you insist:
-Lost Presidential race
-Lost seats in the Senate
-Lost seats in the House
Revised GOP meme: “1 out of 3 is all we ever wanted…”
Bruno
January 26th, 2013
12:59 pm
Bruno was even singing songs at 1:23 am!
Hey, Dusty. Music is a window into the heart and mind of God.
Thought of you today when I heard this song. Like John Denver, you stand for what is good and pure in this world, unwaveringly. Thanks for being a part of the blog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwARpaKHx_w
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
12:59 pm
Just Saying, you might wish to familiarize yourself with the term – “beatdown”, lest you be considered as stupid as AmVet.
Maintaining the status quo is not considered a beatdown in any language, except with you liberals.
Bruno
January 26th, 2013
1:01 pm
Revised GOP meme: “1 out of 3 is all we ever wanted…”
Unrevised Dem meme: “We don’t really give a crap about the future of our country as long as we can get the public to blame the Republicans”.
Bruno
January 26th, 2013
1:05 pm
Some Norwegian Wood for my buddy JamVet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxxGVjLNpek
Dusty
January 26th, 2013
1:07 pm
Now, JUST SAYING,
We are not playing
Your little game of numbers.
Because great mountains of debt
Is something we cannot forget.
Yet, liberals seem to slumber.
Slumber, dumber, karumba!!
Just Saying..
January 26th, 2013
1:18 pm
Tib: “Maintaining the status quo is not considered a beatdown in any language, except with you liberals.”
I didn’t call it a beatdown. I addressed your characterization of “reality adverse”. And the reality is the GOP went for all three. And lost two, and have a smaller margin in the House.
So, the GOP, after the voting, was not able to even maintain the status quo.
Use all spin you got, that’s not the outcome the GOP wanted. Or paid for.
And the more GOP Party members dismiss that reality, the better the Democrats like it…
Sailfish
January 26th, 2013
1:25 pm
dusty
Funny thing about that debt
from bush the younger we did get
blame obama that’s the cry
its his fault cons sigh
In 08 the country
felt the weight
of a shamed leader
and his freight
Now we are healing
diggin our way out
saving the country from
ruin
of the previous lout!
Dusty
January 26th, 2013
1:26 pm
BRUNO,
Thanks for making me feel very good and a fine song besides. That was special..
I’ve been having a little fun today with poetry ( real poets cringe). Glad you are here and I hate to leave. But the time has come the walrus doth say. So I lay down my “mouse” and steal away. Cheers!
Sailfish
January 26th, 2013
1:38 pm
dusty
The walrus was paul…
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
1:43 pm
Guess what, Just Saying? If you wish to insert yourself into another conversation, you might wish to understand what the conversation is about, lest you be considered really, really stupid for writing something that doesn’t make sense.
This is what happens when you pick and choose that which you wish to believe in, rather than the whole of reality.
The above is just a long version of “If you can’t pay attention, just shut up”.
Got it?
Hillbilly D
January 26th, 2013
1:47 pm
The walrus was paul…
But after all was said and done and the smoke had cleared, Ringo was and is the coolest Beatle. He’s the one who realized, it’s just show business.
Just Saying..
January 26th, 2013
1:54 pm
Tib: “The above is just a long version of “If you can’t pay attention, just shut up”.
Got it?”
And you probably can’t guess why you have fewer adherents, rather than more…
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
1:55 pm
“And you probably can’t guess why you have fewer adherents, rather than more…”
I’m sorry, and just who are my “adherents”, Just Saying?
Sailfish
January 26th, 2013
1:56 pm
hillbilly d
Right you are, a truly unique drummer in his own right, best live version of this song I’ve ever seen-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j325YWMy3cQ
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
1:58 pm
What fun, watching tibby, a card carrying member of the Stupid, Backward & Insulting Party, meltdown into a pool of ………………… gooey, sticky tibbiness!
When even Republican governors get sick of you nimrods and your neocon slop, you know your future is gonna get REAL, REAL ugly. Even worse than the last six years have been for you! And I’ve been waiting for this self-inflicted fatality since the days of that addled actor and union thug, so I’m going to relish every single moment of it!
Back at ya, Brother B…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=148BZKiVaBg
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
2:05 pm
“a card carrying member of the Stupid, Backward & Insulting Party”
Liar. I belong to no political party.
“Even worse than the last six years have been for you!”
Once again ignoring the reality of the 2010 Congressional elections.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
2:55 pm
Illinois’ credit rating downgraded; state drops to worst in the nation
Go figure.
Guess what’s in store for all of us.
Just Saying..
January 26th, 2013
2:57 pm
Tib: “I’m sorry, and just who are my “adherents”, Just Saying?”
You’re right. Kinda hard to find any…
Hillbilly D
January 26th, 2013
3:35 pm
Anybody else having refresh problems here, the last few days?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
3:47 pm
D – I just hit the refresh button and then go do something else for a while. Like mow the lawn or wash the car. I guess the techies at the urinal forgot to reboot their dial up connection.
@@
January 26th, 2013
5:02 pm
Some Norwegian Wood for my buddy JamVet
I’m reluctant to hit the link. Might see some nekkid guy named Gunnar or Sven.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
5:16 pm
“You’re right. Kinda hard to find any…”
So that’s yet another thing you’re wrong about, isn’t it, Just Saying?
Sailfish
January 26th, 2013
5:35 pm
hillbilly d
Yes, I’ve learned to close the browser when I’m done…god knows what kind of garbage the ajc is tacking on…its not just them, the whole internets is starting to get polluted with ads and slowing everything to a crawl.
Hillbilly D
January 26th, 2013
5:43 pm
Sailfish
I use Google Chrome and I keep the Ad-Blocker on. It helps some but I’ve had problems the last 3-4 days, but only on the AJC site. Maybe they’re having a brownout since Kyle went to bed and forgot to turn the light off.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 26th, 2013
5:58 pm
The performance of all the AJC blog pages has been abysmal the last half of this week, guess it is Bush’s fault, or maybe Reagan’s.
Hillbilly D
January 26th, 2013
6:08 pm
Rafe
They’ve got a ton of work to do over there on the sports side.
td
January 26th, 2013
6:26 pm
Aesop’s Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
3:47 pm
D – I just hit the refresh button and then go do something else for a while. Like mow the lawn or wash the car. I guess the techies at the urinal forgot to reboot their dial up connection.
Nah, they are using the power of the server to make millions of calculations to try to find a way that the Dems can be successful in 2014 in the Georgia Senate race. I think the server is about read to blow a circuit.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
6:42 pm
BEIRUT (AP) — Issuing Tehran’s strongest warning to date, a top Iranian official said Saturday that any attack on Syria would be deemed an attack on Iran, a sign that it will do all it can to protect embattled Syrian President Bashar Assad.
Too bad there ain’t a Repug in the white house, this would be like twofer.
And if Iran wants a nuklar bomb so bad, why don’t we just drop one on them?
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 26th, 2013
6:50 pm
Aesop
For the life of me, I can’t figure out why we care about that conflict in Syria, they have no oil, and as long as our enemies are killing themselves, have at it. Wasn’t it the Arabs who came up with the old, enemy of my enemy is my friend. I would rewrite that to, the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, and let me not do anything to hinder them killing each other.
td
January 26th, 2013
6:52 pm
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 26th, 2013
6:50 pm
Agreed. As long as they are not effecting the free flow of oil in the region or attacking our friends then who cares if they are killing each other.
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
7:02 pm
As long as they are not effecting the free flow of oil in the region or attacking our friends then who cares if they are killing each other.
Me three!!
Here’s to hoping untold numbers of innocent men, women and children are slaughtered just to assuage my gutless bloodlust from afar!!
And I’m not even a Republican Christian!
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
7:04 pm
Rafe – It’s not so much Syria that concerns me, in fact, you are correct in saying that our enemies, al qaeda and assad are locked in a death struggle, which is good. It’s too bad both of them can’t lose. The only reason we are even considering an invasion is obozo wants to make sure al qaeda wins, like he did in Libya and Egypt. If it were me, I’d figure out which one was the strongest and give the other one some better weapons.
The real problem is Iran. If the lunatics running that country were gone from this world, the whole region would be for the better, including Israel’s security. The libs like to say Bush attacked the wrong country but I think we didn’t attack enough countries. We were in the neighborhood and should have wiped this abomination off the map.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
7:08 pm
And just like that, here’s neville chamberlin offering his opinion.
GiveItASportingTry
January 26th, 2013
7:10 pm
Kyle says “But I had to balance space considerations (that piece was for the print edition of the AJC). What a crock. What space are you talking about? In the “paper” paper? They don’t use much paper these days. What’s the deal here?
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
7:14 pm
Andy, like td everything you represent is depraved and filthy. Your religion, your political party and your sociopathic and bitter little soul.
But you do two serve a damn role as to what decent people never want to be like.
Kudos, even Jesus loves you.
Sailfish
January 26th, 2013
7:23 pm
hillbilly d
Yes, I’ve been using google chrome a lot lately, firefox has just gone whacko, what are you going to do?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
7:29 pm
Give war a chance.
td
January 26th, 2013
7:31 pm
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
7:14 pm
And this coming from someone that is so far to the left that he pulled the lever for Nader at one time.
We know it is you that hates this country. You hate the military, you hate religion and religious people, you hate free enterprise, worth ethic, personal responsibility and think it is unconscionable to hold a person accountable of their own actions.
We really do not have time for people like you in this country but we have to put up with your kind.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
7:32 pm
AmVet thinking he knows what “decent” people want to be like is simply laughable.
Considering his tenuous hold on reality.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
7:59 pm
I wonder how many other years besides 2010 AmVet has a blackout on?
Hillbilly D
January 26th, 2013
8:10 pm
sailfish @ 7:23
My computer knowledge is really pretty limited. I reckon I’ll just try to ride it out and maybe the AJC can fix their problems. I don’t spend a whole lot of time here anymore, anyway.
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
8:13 pm
tibby doing his Charlie Sheen imitation is precious.
And 2006, 2008 and 2012 ask what is he babbling about?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
8:19 pm
I’m beginning to think that English isn’t AmVet’s native language.
Either that, or he has some serious brown-outs between the ears.
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
8:31 pm
tibby, WINNING!
Who cares if it is only 25% of the time?!
You’re doing a heckuva job, tibby!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
8:36 pm
Confirmed.
Not his native language AND brownouts.
bluecoat
January 26th, 2013
8:51 pm
I can hear/see it now.”mission accomplished”mission accomplished” was that an echo?No just Georgie screwing up again.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 26th, 2013
9:05 pm
How about al qaeda is “on the run?’
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 26th, 2013
9:14 pm
bluecoat, in case you missed it (and of course you did), the “Mission Accomplished” claim and banner were for the mission which defeated the Iraqi military forces and from which that carrier was coming home.
Which of course was accomplished.
Cherry-picking your statements is not allowed on this site without push back.
bluecoat
January 26th, 2013
9:25 pm
I was making the statement in reference to attacking Iran also.Defeated Iraqi forces at that time?
td
January 26th, 2013
9:42 pm
bluecoat
January 26th, 2013
9:25 pm
I was making the statement in reference to attacking Iran also.Defeated Iraqi forces at that time?
Yes, we totally demolished the worlds 5th largest military in about a 1 month span while inflicting minimal human cost on us and inflicting serious cost on them while at the same time we were protected from any other military in the world from attacking us. This is the reason it is so important to not cut our military spending.
bluecoat
January 26th, 2013
10:43 pm
TD go crawl back under the bed.You want spending cuts.but you don’t want spending cuts.Minimal human cost. After you thought they were defeated.I do not know the deaths or wounded or cost for this created war.You can look it up.
td
January 26th, 2013
10:49 pm
bluecoat
January 26th, 2013
10:43 pm
TD go crawl back under the bed.You want spending cuts.but you don’t want spending cuts.Minimal human cost. After you thought they were defeated.I do not know the deaths or wounded or cost for this created war.You can look it up.
The cost was less then the price we paid to allow the moochers to eat in this country during the same time period.
bluecoat
January 26th, 2013
10:57 pm
Tiberius are you pushing or pulling?Washing ot hanging out?Tibby huh.
bluecoat
January 26th, 2013
11:03 pm
TD I’m off to bed.You have a good night.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 27th, 2013
12:26 am
bluecoat, you don’t even know which country we attacked.
What does that say about you?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 27th, 2013
8:40 am
Young voters clinging to the Democratic Party will cry one day, and pull out their hair when they realize the costs of trillions upon trillions in debt and the effects of inflation. But for now, they’re busy tweeting and getting their politics from Comedy Central. When they wake, don’t be surprised if they start talking about death panels for everyone older than 60. By then, of course, it’ll be too late.
So the Democratic message — give us free stuff because rich, white guys are evil — is effective.
Yeah, we already have one party of stupid.
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
8:56 am
That’s cute,
Prognostications of doom and destruction from the losers who said, “Romney in a landslide”.
Neocons – Winning! Duh!
bluecoat
January 27th, 2013
9:03 am
No let me guess.Duh, South Ossetia possibly.OR Tibby town?
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 27th, 2013
9:05 am
Dedicated to all the Dems, especially getalife, celebrating Jindal’s speach to the GOP
Bill Maher, low rent, non talent, ant-American, godless heathen, comedian had this to say about the takers:
“We have 23.5 percent dirt bags in America,” the HBO Real Time host surprisingly said. “It just seems like there’s less people pulling the wagon and more people in the wagon, and at some point the wagon is going to break”
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/#ixzz2JBUV0zj1
Be nice if he would get that message through to the Enabler in Chief, Barry the First. Seems Maher thinks at least half Barry’s voters are “dirt bags”.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 27th, 2013
9:12 am
Harkin’s retirement further improves an already encouraging landscape for Senate Republicans in 2014, giving them a credible chance to win back the majority. Seven Senate races are being contested in states that Mitt Romney carried last year — six them carried by Romney by double-digit margins. With Harkin running for re-election, Republicans would have faced long odds in winning his seat. But now, Republicans feel like they have a decent chance at picking up an open seat in a perennial battleground state.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 27th, 2013
9:15 am
Michael Hastings, a reporter for Rolling Stone magazine who wrote that he “fell into the trap of asking Obama soft questions.”
In his book, Hastings notes:
That’s the presence of Obama, even on the press corps, even on the people who follow him every day. When they’re near him, they lose their minds sometimes. They start behaving in ways that are juvenile and amateurish, and they swoon.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/randy-hall/2013/01/26/white-house-press-corps-fawning-over-obama-fox-news-panel-charges#ixzz2JBXmNlqJ
And we wonder why America is in the shape it is! Swooning, slobbering, pandering, prostrating, and bowing before our Imperial President is not flattering.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 27th, 2013
9:49 am
Libya’s upheaval the past two years helped lead to the ongoing conflict in Mali, and now Mali’s war threatens to wash back and further hike Libya’s instability. Fears are growing that post-Moammar Gadhafi Libya is becoming an incubator of turmoil, with an overflow of weapons and Islamic jihadi militants operating freely, ready for battlefields at home or abroad.
Notice how the liberals claim this as a “victory?”
Sailfish
January 27th, 2013
10:31 am
“Swooning, slobbering, pandering, prostrating, and bowing before our Imperial President”
That’s a most ludicrous and ridiculous assertion; so what if he is a likeable president unlike the previous arrogant, misinformed, gut feeling, illegitimate war making failure?
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 27th, 2013
10:42 am
Sailfish
Likeability is no excuse for not doing their jobs. A skeptic free press is essential to a free America. Can you imagine how the press would have hounded Bush, if he were responsible for Benghazi and Fast and Furious, yet Barry never has to answer a question about either. Remember San Donaldson screaming at Reagan or Dan Rather at Nixon, when no answers were forthcoming or they got the runaround. Now, the press just smiles and grins at the evasion they get from the Obama Regime.
Sailfish
January 27th, 2013
10:46 am
rafe
What’s obama going to say that hillary didn’t? What’s obama going to say that eric holder didn’t?
Why did busn not say anything about valerie plame? Why did bush and cheney have to testify in secret for the 911 commission?
See you really have a selective memory.
Sailfish
January 27th, 2013
10:53 am
This obsession with benghazi is retarded! Four people are dead and thats a fact, what is being covered up?
If you really want to take issue with something, how’s about jobs? Before the election it was jobs, jobs, jobs, now it’s immigration, guns, and manmade cliffs – let’s get back to the jobs, please!
indigo
January 27th, 2013
11:15 am
Rafe – 9:15 “Swooning, slobering, pandering, prostrating, and bowing”.
And, exactly HOW is that Obama’s fault?
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 27th, 2013
11:35 am
indigo… who blamed Obama? Just saying, that we are not getting the truth about much of anything anymore because the Obama loving media are not interested in anything that would reflect poorly on their man, and he will not take any questions from any alternative media.
Sailfish… Obama could tell us why there was no military available to come to the rescue, during a 7 hour span of the attack. We have military units closer than 7 hours. He could tell us why he blamed the video for two weeks, when he knew the incident had nothing to do with the video. Why did he have to lie, would be a good question? Why was Stevens in Benghazi, what was so important for him to be there, even though he himself questioned the lack of security? Who sent Susan Rice out to lie for the regime, who altered the talking points and why did they change them to delete references about terrorist attacks. None of this was answered by Hillary, so who is going to answer it?
Or, maybe you are like some other halfwit I saw in the vent, saying the people don’t need answers to everything they want to know about. Sounds like that guy would be a good loyal Hugo Chavez supporter.
Bush was asked repeatedly about Valerie Plame, who was not an undercover agent, BTW. He was asked who outed her, why, what he knew about Scooter Libby, blah, blah, and turns out he didn’t know anything and it was not the Bush administration that outed her. So, your comparison is flawed, as usual.
Dusty
January 27th, 2013
11:48 am
Well, folks, time to stop the swooning, slobering, pandering, prostrating and bowing. You really should be at church. Listen to a fine sermon, enjoy the music, think about how to do things better. Relax and enjoy your God given freedom with appreciation…
While you are “at it”, you might realize that Chambliss has been doing a good job but is getting tired. We should thank him for his service.
We should also be thankful we had Bush and Cheney. They are two men dedicated to this country and led us through the hard times following 9/11. What they did was to protect this country. We should thank them.
Now we have President Obama, elected by the people. I do not agree with most of his policies but calling him names won’t change that. Our founders gave us legal ways to communicate and we should do that with consideration.
So give it some thought on this cold quiet day. It will help your blood pressure if nothing else.
Sailfish
January 27th, 2013
12:00 pm
rafe
Uh-huh
@@
January 27th, 2013
12:40 pm
At the neighbor’s place we have:
JamVet – Not a
member of the Stupid,
Backward and
Insulting Party.
I won’t call him stupid….but backward (redundant) and insulting?
Oooooh yeah….without a doubt.
schnirt
I’ve been following a discussion (elsewhere) regarding the fed’s manipulation of interest rates. Interesting.
It’s like baby boomers are paying for government’s mistakes (greed). So what else is new?
Just Saying..
January 27th, 2013
12:44 pm
Dusty, have a listen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4yVfQ7lQsg
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 27th, 2013
12:46 pm
Further proof that Obamacare will end health insurance coverage for the very people they were wanting to help.
Know a friend who has a daughter working at Waffle House – very low wages, but just enough to get by and still have health insurance coverage for about $12 every two weeks. She just received a notice with her W2 that stated that due to new regulations in Obamacare, Waffle House can no longer supply their low-cost option for health insurance, because it doesn’t cover everything mandated in Obamacare. The new insurance is now over $50 every two weeks, meaning that person can no longer afford to have health coverage and has to drop theirs with no alternative.
Way to go, you blithering idiot liberals and President Incompetent.
MarkV
January 27th, 2013
12:49 pm
Poor conservatives on this blog. One might even feel sorry for them.
What they are reduced to is a denial of reality (“Republicans are on the move and it is forward.” “Ours is letting liberals cry.” “Yet, liberals seem to slumber. “), excuses (“Because the Dems (with the full support of the press) have been successful in pinning the blame for our budget woes on the Republicans in the court of popular opinion, “) and belligerence in foreign affairs. (“Give war a chance. And if Iran wants a nuklar bomb so bad, why don’t we just drop one on them?”)
How simply frightful! How humiliating! How delightful!
But in the end, the reality still has a way of breaking through. (“Now we have President Obama, elected by the people.” “We’ll just have to wait awhile, about four more years.”)
independent thinker
January 27th, 2013
1:02 pm
Saxby has had enough of the Stupid Party that has shown their stupidity repeatedly in the past year and has let the wackos take over control of the party by:
1. Reelecting a clown who ran the worst national convention and campaign in GOP history- Rinse a Prebuss;
2. Picking a draft dodger tax cheat for president who wrote off 47% of the electorate;
3. Running a presidential campaign that was totally inept and appeared to be run by a candidate with no business skills;
4. Picking a vice president who was caught lying on day one and had to hide behind his mother to get votes only to lose his own city and county;
5. Having a Senate leader whose only tool for compromise is the silent fillibuster until he cries uncle and calls Biden for help;
6. Being a bunch of puppets for the NRA;
7. Letting Rand Paul show how inept he would be as a pretend president on national TV and
8. Dissing all veterans.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 27th, 2013
1:15 pm
Independent thinker shows with that last post that he is neither.
bluecoat
January 27th, 2013
1:18 pm
Maher “cowards using guided missiles”Aesop they want necular “we should just drop one on them”Sounds like quoting TD.
independent thinker
January 27th, 2013
1:19 pm
Mr. Tiberius is a prime example of why the Republican Party is now referred to by some of its own as the stupid party. Stupid is as stupid does-on display every day here. No wonder Saxby wants out before the stink gets too much.
@@
January 27th, 2013
1:19 pm
Obama: Gun control supporters must listen more.
“Part of being able to move this forward is understanding the reality of guns in urban areas are very different from the realities of guns in rural areas,” he said.
“So it’s trying to bridge those gaps that I think is going to be part of the biggest task over the next several months,” Mr. Obama explained. “And that means that advocates of gun control have to do a little more listening than they do sometimes.”
Huh?
At least 5 die in Chicago shootings
Have crime will travel?
I think it’s safe to say the shooters in Chicago weren’t mentally ill in the clinical term. Societal terms? Oooooh yeah.
@@
January 27th, 2013
1:22 pm
independent thinker:
And your take on the other party?
schnirt
@@
January 27th, 2013
1:27 pm
I probably should have said….
“And your take FROM the other party?”
independent thinker
January 27th, 2013
1:39 pm
Democrats do not refer to themselves as the stupid party. They did not diss all veterans and 47% of the country; They did not bankrupt the country with three wars costing nearly two trillion dollars while not accomplishing the primary mission of the war on terror after eight years. There is no equivalent of Allan West and Michelle Bachmann in the Democratic party. The Democrats are not ashamed of their former president and keeps him hidden from view. Yes they have issues on the budget and entitlements and the Administration did screw up in Benghazi..
Find me an equivalent Democrat leader to Rinse Prebuss
And I voted for McCain and Saxby.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 27th, 2013
1:46 pm
I think I know why hairy didn’t push the Senate filibuster deal -
The move puts Iowa in play and came on the heels of Democratic Sen. Jay Rockefeller’s retirement in West Virginia, which gave Republicans a likely pick-up. Another possible Democratic retirement in a red state looms in South Dakota, where Sen. Tim Johnson is expected to decide soon whether to pursue a third term. And a new poll shows Republican Scott Brown — who’s mulling whether to run for Senate this year or governor in 2014 — up by double digits in a potential race for Democrat John Kerry’s seat.
Get ready, cause here we come.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Z8NU5ImK0
@@
January 27th, 2013
1:51 pm
Find me an equivalent Democrat leader to Rinse Prebuss
Not a fan of Preibus (sp?) but Debbie Wasserman Schultz strikes me as worse than…
Among her many stoopid claims?
Union rabble-rouser: Wasserman Schultz, in an address at George Washington University, said that Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker deserved the “organizer-of-the-year award” for energizing public-employee unions after trying to rein in the cost to the state of their lucrative pensions and health care benefits. “The sleeping giant has been awakened,” she said, according to Politico.
Debbie Dumb as a rock.
David slew Goliath.
schnirt
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 27th, 2013
1:58 pm
While diane Freakenstein recognized Sunday that passing the ban will be an “uphill fight” and the “hardest of the hard,” she expressed confidence that she can at least get it to the Senate floor.
“There will be a package put together. If ‘assault weapons’ is left out of the package – and I’m a member of (the) Judiciary (committee), No. 2 in seniority – I’ve been assured by the majority leader I’ll be able to do it as an amendment on the floor.”
We won’t be banning assault weapons but we’ll be banning………..something.
Opened a can of whoopass on ya, didn’t we?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 27th, 2013
1:58 pm
“They did not bankrupt the country with three wars costing nearly two trillion dollars”
Let’s see . . .$2 trillion in war costs out of a total of $16 trillion in debt and rising.
WHO bankrupted the country, not so independent non-thinker?
bluecoat
January 27th, 2013
2:07 pm
VA Gov.leave it alone.Works fine as is.Level headed R.Rare I know.
Just Saying..
January 27th, 2013
2:15 pm
Fables: Wait til next election…
Tib: Remember 2010…
Dusty
January 27th, 2013
2:15 pm
Well, JUST SAYING @ 12:44
Thank you for the nice little songbird. I imagine she is appealing to a lot of people. I don’t care too much for one quiet voice with a piano. Guess I go for semething with a little more zip.
Just Saying..
January 27th, 2013
2:31 pm
Dusty, it was probably the lyrics for me.
Since “I’ll take my sorrow straight” isn’t posted, this one is a bit more up tempo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlaoR5m4L80
bluecoat
January 27th, 2013
2:33 pm
Yep,ready,fire,aim here they come….
Dusty
January 27th, 2013
2:37 pm
Well, I know how Saxby feels. Things are getting a litle tiresome here.too. Soooo
WHAT’S TO BE DONE WITH UNDERGROUND?? That was a headline but I’m too lazy to sign in there to comment..
Here are two choices for Underground. It is either Vice or Compassion. Yes!
VICE- Make it a CASINO. Georgia already has a lottery. Make Underground a casino and take away the rest of the money being thrown away. Then the state could put $$$ back in Medicaid. Like the lottery goes for education.
or
COMPASSION-Make Underground a homeless center and close the Pine Street center. Nobody likes the Pine Street center. Might as well put it underground.
(What, Kyle? Stay on subject? Awwww…OK.)
Dusty
January 27th, 2013
2:53 pm
Yes, JUST SAYING Your last selection was more lively. Iris can belt it out when she wants to. I had to smile over the title of one of her other songs. “God May Forgive You (But I won’t)”..That was interesting!! Maybe even political!! Nawww…
Just Saying..
January 27th, 2013
2:58 pm
Happy that one worked better for you. Iris is the genuine article.
Something we could all use a bit more of…
Just Saying..
January 27th, 2013
2:59 pm
Happy that one worked better for you, Dusty. Iris is the genuine article.
Something we could all use a bit more of…
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
3:05 pm
I see nothing has really changed from the first page of this blog. The socialist liberal blog squatters who have drifted onto this conservatives blog haven’t changed a single mind.
These “someones” must like to exercise futility?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 27th, 2013
3:08 pm
obozo also said he can get 50 percent of public support for many of his upcoming initiatives, but “I can’t get enough votes out of the House of Representatives to actually get something passed. …
So freikenstein says Senate dims are blocking it, obozo blames it on the Repug House, is the talking point apparatus in turmoil now that whackerman schulz is on the outs?
“If a Republican member of Congress is not punished on Fox News or by Rush Limbaugh for working with a Democrat on a bill of common interest, then you’ll see more of them doing it,” obozo said.
This was, of course, in an interview given to The New Republic.
The president argued that “the more left-leaning media outlets recognize that compromise is not a dirty word” and that party leaders, including Senate Majority hairy reed and House Minority Leader nasty Pelosi, are “willing to buck the more absolutist-wing elements in our party to try to get stuff done.”
When did we get a president????
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
3:11 pm
VICE- Make it a CASINO. Georgia already has a lottery. Make Underground a casino and take away the rest of the money being thrown away. Then the state could put $$$ back in Medicaid. Like the lottery goes for education.
We agree on two point Dusty 1) gaming in Georgia 2) the direction of those proceeds to fund health-care.
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
3:20 pm
Exactly when did obumer ever compromise?
That hardcore Marxist ideologue totally rejected his own select debt commission’s recommendations.
Simpson Bowles got it right on almost everything: Eliminate all deductions and lowering tax rates thereby increasing federal revenues.
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
3:45 pm
Take it up with Jindal, girl.
“We must stop being the stupid party. We must stop looking backward. We must stop insulting the intelligence of voters.”
Even for you play stupid to perfection types, it’s obvious he was denouncing the worst of you stuck on stupid Republicans.
Though personally, I disagree.
i believe you should honor even more your stupidity, backwardness and insults.
It’s working out great for you!
@@
January 27th, 2013
4:04 pm
AmVet:
So the GOP isn’t into group think?
Whodathunkit?
schnirt
I’m enjoying the diversity within. Something good is bound to take the lead.
I’m inclined to take the best of what each individual has to offer.
Patience is my only virtue.
indigo
January 27th, 2013
4:10 pm
Michael H. Smith – 3:05
I don’t believe any of the “liberal” bloggers here have ever professed a strong belief in the below:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/socialism?s=t
Do you just shoot from the hip and suppose we’ll believe you?
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
4:19 pm
Compromise?
Now THAT is funny! (In a sad and demented kind of way…)
LOL!!!
October 28, 2010
During an appearance with conservative talk show host Sean Hannity this week, Rep. John Boehner, (R-Ohio) the House Speaker apparent, uttered the rallying cry.
“This is not a time for compromise, and I can tell you that we will not compromise on our principles,” Boehner said during an appearance on conservative Sean Hannity’s radio show.
Likewise Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.), a member of the House Republican leadership who is thought to be considering a White House run, said on CNN Wednesday evening:
What I’ve said is there will be no compromise on ending this era of runaway spending, deficits and debt. No compromise on repealing Obamacare lock, stock and barrel. No compromise on defending the broad mainstream values of the American people in the way we spend the people’s money at home and abroad. On issues that go straight to principle and straight to the concern the American people have on spending and taxes and values, there’ll be no compromise.
You losers bluffed.
And lost. As in three out of the past four elections.
Now you’re gonna pay the piper.
I advocate that the president never compromise with these Republican would be traitors.
Their complete and unconditional surrender should be his only focus.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 27th, 2013
4:27 pm
I was just wondering, now that obozo’s been castrated by the NRA, is it time to start calling him our little lame duck?
MarkV
January 27th, 2013
4:29 pm
MHS’ use of the terms socialist, communist or “a Marxist ideologue” is a political version of parents using an amorphous imaginary called “bogeyman” to frighten children into compliant behavior – and about as close to reality.
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
4:36 pm
Take it up with Jindal, girl.
He has you nuts pegged perfectly.
Here’s another headline for the reality averse MHS:
Rush Limbaugh Continues Warning GOP Not To Compromise
Speaking of stuck on backward, did that fanatic actually write …hardcore Marxist ideologue…???
Wow.
It ids hard to find anyone more stuck than those sill living with their heads up Joseph McCarthy’s ___, circa 1953!
It now appears that the next decade will almost certainly spell the end of this horrifically incompetent and immoral neoconservative experiment.
Trickle down on that…
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 27th, 2013
4:36 pm
AmVet would have to possess principles to understand why compromising them would be a bad thing.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 27th, 2013
4:38 pm
“Horrifically incompetent”?
Take a peek inside 1600 Pennsylvania Ave any day between 2009 and 2016 to view that particular mess.
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2013
4:38 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFnk36YYV1w
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 27th, 2013
4:42 pm
JamVet
Hate to spoil your rant, but if you don’t know who the Gov of Indiana is, then the rest of the rant is probably incorrect as well. Mike Pence is the Governor of Indiana, not a House member.
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
4:51 pm
Take it up with Jindal, little Andy.
And your groupthink and groupdespondency during the dark days is duly noted.
Hard to believe that just 13 years ago you boys were able to get the (W)orst Ever (s)elected, huh?
Given the toxic effects of that clusterflub administration, you probably wish ti had been 113 years ago, huh?
Until someone in the GOP has the guts to stand up to Rush Limbaugh and tell him to ____ ___ ___ ___, you are hopelessly screwed.
Which is awesome!
Complete con capitulation. The destruction of American fascism.
That is the ultimate goal.
And more than ever, it is in sight…
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 27th, 2013
4:52 pm
MarkV, you are technically correct Obama is not a socialist in that he does not advocate government ownership of business, at least he hasn’t informed us that he thinks that way, but then again, he claimed to be opposed to same sex marriage, until it was politically safe to say so. We never know what tomorrow brings in Obama’s America.
He doesn’t claim to be a fascist, but his policies of trying to use regulations to force business to conform to government will is close.
I don’t use the terms (socialism and fascism) as the left will just jump up and start quoting Websters on you, so I just call him a proponent of Obamanism, a distructive blend of crony capitalism, popularism, socialism, elitism, fascism, and anti-American tendencies.
@@
January 27th, 2013
4:55 pm
Ditto what Tiberius said at 4:36.
It ids hard to find anyone more stuck than those sill living with their heads up Joseph McCarthy’s ___, circa 1953!
Well….it IS almost 5:00.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 27th, 2013
4:59 pm
Anybody who continues to post that Bush was selected in 2000 doesn’t have a working brain in their head.
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
5:01 pm
MarkV
Use of the term Marxist socialist is accurate to describe obumer who I have not called communist yet because he has not escalated to that stage of Marxism.
Your opinion MarkV, which is what you have asserted to be accurate is not an definition of Marxism and its’ various stages.
oh and brucie vet… booo!
Now crawl back under your bed.
Um Rafe, under fascist socialism the government doesn’t have to own everything to meet the definition factually, as was the case with NAZI Germany.
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
5:02 pm
MarkV, is technically and factually correct, Rafe
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
5:04 pm
Oops… MarkV, is technically and factually incorrect, Rafe
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
5:05 pm
Use of the term Marxist socialist is accurate…
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not amongst intelligent people.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 27th, 2013
5:09 pm
“”Not amongst intelligent people.”
Who, btw, you’re not qualified to speak for . . .
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
5:17 pm
I do use the terms Rafe and let the left jump all they want. Fascism is a dominate if not complete system of socioeconomic control. This country has regulated just about everything. I’ve challenged all to name something that is not regulated in this country and MarkV certainly hasn’t been able to produce anything that isn’t regulated .
The democrats since Wilson to obumer have continued to push for a “social democracy” to replace the Representative Republic. A “social democracy” – a term MarkV has used – is a socialist form of government, Rafe.
But hey all this is just name calling, right? Boogiemen right? Labels really don’t mean anything, right?
indigo
January 27th, 2013
5:18 pm
Rafe – 4:52 “jump up and start quoting Websters on you”
That pesky Websters dictionary sure gets in the way of so much good Republican thinking, right punkie?
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
5:18 pm
sunspot tibby, intelligent Americans, including Republican Bobby Jindal are pointing their fingers at…………… you neocons, for being stupid, backward and insulting.
Own it.
You wear it well.
And don’t ever change!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsqKdZ3JZ2k
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
5:18 pm
Not amongst intelligent people.
In that case brucie it’s time for you to leave.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 27th, 2013
5:19 pm
It’s true, Stalin and Mao would probably laugh in obozo’s face.
Like putin does.
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
5:20 pm
neocons?
Define that word brucie, as best you can.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 27th, 2013
5:21 pm
Considering I am not even close to being a neo-con, AmVet, you’re wrong as usual.
But don’t let reality get in the way of a good rant, sonny!
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
5:24 pm
Yeah old Webster’s sure does get in the way of socialist liberals, especially when you read all parts of the definition…
3
: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
Dusty
January 27th, 2013
5:27 pm
Hillbilly,
Nice song there. I’m” not much” on some of these players but they do sound like they mean what they sing. An” honest” song in many ways.
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
5:28 pm
The diff, MHS is that you that if you could make $10,000 by making an even remotely intelligent case that BHO is a Marxist, you……….
Will be eating McDonalds tonight like every other night!
But please do!
Expound, oh enlightened master!
Edify us with your words of wisdom on the evils of Barry’s “Marxism”!
Quote for us other masters and show us the sources that you use that are unimpeachable!
Demonstrate for us this vast persuasive intellect that you think you have!
LOL!
Jindal has YOU pegged…
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
5:29 pm
From old Webster’s one more time….
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism?show=0&t=1359325555
How that dictionary thing working out for you now?
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
5:30 pm
brucie an intelligent case has been made far too many times already, even from a dictionary and you are just dumb enough to argue with Websters.
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
5:33 pm
Time to eat. I let you fascist socialist democrats to fume and call Webster a Neo-Con too.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 27th, 2013
5:36 pm
I think the Dems are so into the dictionary definition as it is all they have. People don’t like socialism, fascism, marxism, or much else the Dems tout, so they resort to Webster to say, that is not who we are, when in actuality it is who they are. Their first black president survived by disputing the meaning of “is”, so definition is their thing.
JamVet
Maher has you pegged..
@@
January 27th, 2013
5:37 pm
Communism is progressive by way of capitalism through socialism to communism.
In the Marxist theory of history, changes in methods of production lie behind mankind’s progression through certain predictable stages. In the recent past there has been feudalism, which has now given way to the 19th-century triumph of the bourgeoisie. In the future there is the imminent Dictatorship of the Proletariat, after which an interim period of Socialism will give way to the final achievement of Communism.
This progression is not, as liberals would wish, a gradual evolution. It is a series of violent upheavals in the struggle between the classes. One such occasion has been seen in France, where the bourgeoisie has overthrown the remains of feudalism in the revolution of 1789.
Once the new production methods of the Industrial Revolution have reached a critical point, crowding together a sufficient number of exploited workers in slum conditions in the cities, the stage will be set for the next revolution. The proletariat (a word used by Marx for the industrial working class) will smash the bourgeoisie and will appropriate their accumulated wealth for the common cause.
In the subsequent Dictatorship of the Proletariat all other considerations will be subordinated to safeguarding the revolution. This stage ends once everybody is a member of the proletariat. With only one class left, the class war is over. The next and penultimate stage is Socialism.
In the classless society of Socialism it is anticipated that mankind will live in harmony (class exploitation being the root of all evil). Now it will be possible for the apparatus of state gradually to wither away. The final Marxist paradise of Communism will operate on a simple and just distribution of work and wealth – in Marx’s words, ‘from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs’.
And we all live happily ever after.
THE END!
schnirt
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
5:39 pm
THAT is you enlightenment?
Do you even know what comprises and argument?
HUGE LOL!!!
In logic and philosophy, an argument is an attempt to persuade someone of something, by giving reasons for accepting a particular conclusion as evident.
Or as some of the more sophisticated readers here will recognize – “An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.”
Forget getting laughed out of the ninth grade, mikey.
You wouldn’t make it through the fifth grade!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
5:40 pm
Mikey, doing the surrender monkey thing THAT quickly?
Niiiice…
@@
January 27th, 2013
5:41 pm
Hillbilly:
“God Will, I won’t”
Forgiveness has always been easy for me. Forgetting…..?
That’s a whole different ballgame.
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
5:46 pm
Forget getting laughed out of the ninth grade, mikey.
You wouldn’t make it through the fifth grade!
Jam–Most people move past childish taunting by the end of kindergarten. It’s sad that you still keep it in your arsenal. You do have a lot of company over on the Lib side right now, however.
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
5:46 pm
Go ahead Rafe.
YOU tell me how Obama is a Marxist!
Certainly YOU can make a compelling case!
And PLEASE come up with something more than that ridiculous 5:37 which is anything but an intellectual contribution to mikey’s absurd claptrap.
Jindal has YOU pegged.
Dusty
January 27th, 2013
5:49 pm
Well, no guessing about the Presidient’s title. He is President of the USA. President Obama, that is.
Now if you want to go beyond that into characteristics, one must look carefully.. Altogether I’d say he is a vehement liberal, fed & led by politics, bad business, cronyism, fiscal oblivion but one who can brainwash millions of people. All that takes talent and he is talented.
Not many can do that. At least, we hope so.
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2013
5:52 pm
Forgiveness has always been easy for me. Forgetting…..?
That’s a whole different ballgame.
One of my adversaries once told me I should “forgive and forget”. I said, “You’ll need to ask Jesus to forgive you……but I’ve done forgot you”. (IWH)
MarkV
January 27th, 2013
5:53 pm
Sometimes it is difficult to know if people on this blog just try to make others laugh, or suffer temporary insanity or some other affliction that prevents them to put together a rational thought. Let’s look at some examples:
Michael H. Smith @ 5:01 pm
Rafe: “Your opinion MarkV, which is what you have asserted to be accurate is not an definition of Marxism and its’ various stages.”
Michael H. Smith @ 5:04 pm “Oops… MarkV, is technically and factually incorrect, Rafe …”
Considering that my only comment today regarding Marxism was a rather sarcastic comparison of the use of the term “Marxist ideologue” with the use of bogeyman to frighten people, it is at least mildly difficult to call it my “definition of Marxism,” whether correct or incorrect, technically or factually.
Michael H. Smith @5:24 pm: Socialism: “ a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.”
Considering that no single known country in the world can boast an “equal distribution of goods and pay according to work done,” MHS’ use of this as a definition of socialism effectively calls every country in the world socialistic.
fair and balanced
January 27th, 2013
5:57 pm
“”"”"”"”"”"”"”" The Republicans know they are in trouble. The vast majority of the countries do not like much of what the Republicans in control stand for. Even cultural Republicans have all but given up. The only thing keeping them together with a modicum of homogeneity is their irrational hate for President Obama and what he represents, so far someone that has governed like a moderate Republican but, seem to be remembering that progress comes from those that aspire its namesake, Progressives, Liberals.
The RNC re-elected Reince Priebus as their chairman after a failure to win anything of substance in the 2012 election. It is interesting that Michael Steele was summarily dismissed after a rather successful 2010 election that brought this current intransigent regime to power. It makes one wonder out loud what all believed about the reasons for Steele’s initial ascendency. “We’ve done that. Now, pigmentation continues to trump merit.”"”"”"”"”"”"”"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/26/1182304/-Republican-Party-From-Stupid-Party-To-Election-Stealing-Party-America-Won-t-Have-It-VIDEO
No wonder Saxby is jumping ship
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
5:57 pm
B, your highly selective, completely one sided observation/condemnation is noted!
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2013
5:59 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2KoIWEAdaM
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
6:00 pm
brucie, listen real close, I’ll type it slow for you.
Your Prezdent lil’ barry obama has said on tapped interviews no less than three times which I seen him nearly quoting Karl Marx mantra nearly verbatim in content. Obama believes in wealth and income redistribution and he believes that even government should have a structure in place to redistribute wealth and income.
From each according to their ability, to each according to their need
Who said those words bruce wilcox or MarkV?
Obama believes in those words heart and soul, he is undeniably a follower of Karl Marx.
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
6:10 pm
MarkV
I used even Webster’s definition’s and it really makes no differences how many nations are semi-Capitalist or purely Capitalist. That does not clear you one iota from the factual fascist socialist direction this country has been headed in since Wilson to the present. You just don’t like have the your social democracy exposed for what it is a fascist-socialist form of Marxism.
It’s easy to understand why you are ashamed of it, considering the results in the majority of case where such form of governance has been tried and ended very badly.
Attacking me for the failures of Marxism in its’ various forms won’t redeem or others opinion of it or your futile beliefs in it.
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
6:16 pm
…which I seen (the correct word is saw) him nearly quoting Karl Marx mantra nearly verbatim in content.
And I nearly saw Notre Dame nearly beat Alabama earlier this month.
But just like you, I’m going to have one heckuva time finding the proof!
Another veracity free claim…
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
6:21 pm
B, your highly selective, completely one sided observation/condemnation is noted!
If I hold you to a higher standard than some others here, it is only because I have more respect for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj-4t9drUlM
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
6:22 pm
Nice try brucie but your childish bs attempt to misrepresent what was said does not change redistribution one word from obama’s Marxist mouth and that is not hard to find or proof.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Obama+wealth+redistribution&oq=Obama+wealth+redistribution&gs_l=youtube.3..0.2888.12915.0.13243.28.13.0.15.15.0.340.1074.7j2j0j1.10.0…0.0…1ac.1.GcLkhZ_Z62k
Enjoy the videos brucie
MarkV
January 27th, 2013
6:27 pm
Michael H. Smith @ 6:10 pm
MHS,
I will ask you politely: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Have you ate least read my comments? I have not even started to debate you about Marxism, because I know it would be useless to discuss that subject with a total ignorant.
“That does not clear you one iota ..”
Why would I need to be “cleared?”
“You just don’t like have the your social democracy…”
Where is that “my social democracy?”
“It’s easy to understand why you are ashamed of it…”
Where did I show to be ashamed of anything?
“Attacking me for the failures of Marxism…”
I have attacked YOU for the failures of Marxism?
I think I need to rephrase my first question:
ARE YOU NUTS?
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
6:28 pm
Calling the President a Marxist only exposes MHS’s ignorance of Marxism, the history of capitalist countries, American capitalism and President Obama.
It is the squawking of the irrational and desperate.
And outside of Limbaughland and Faux News it is the fodder of comedians and the butt of jokes.
Go back to 1953, MHS.
McCarthyism is dead.
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
6:32 pm
The link to the proof is on the blog brucie. To late for screaming McCarthyism, tapes don’t have to hide behind bushes or under beds. Now you can’t hide behind ranting and raving.
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
6:37 pm
Just curious, MHS.
Was there some kid name Bruce who kicked your ___ when you were a kid?
You sure seem hung up on him…
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
6:41 pm
Proof??? As in evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth.
A list of youtube pages???
Hysterical.
There is no proof there at all.
You want proof, that I’m right?
http://www.britannica.com/
Bwa!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 27th, 2013
6:41 pm
“Do you even know what comprises and argument?”
Never ask a question of others that does not apply to you.
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
6:42 pm
ARE YOU NUTS?
No I’m not nuts, but I do believe you are, MarkV. I’ve read too much of the things you have written. What you done was attempt to use some propaganda to dismiss what I said earlier. I never said anything about a debate. There isn’t any need for that to occur, enough information has been published already for debate to serve no purpose other than to belabor the point.
You have to defend Marxism by denying it exist in this country at any exposure of it, on the other hand I make no such rush to defend Capitalism, when ever it can be exposed in America.
For I have no need to cry boogiemen when your ilk attacks Capitalism.
@@
January 27th, 2013
6:42 pm
Bruno:
In my opinion, your respect has been misplaced.
You can hold him to the higher standard, but history has proven he’ll never reach the summit.
He is what he is. All the cajoling in the world won’t change him.
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
6:46 pm
brucie vet are you having trouble clicking on the youtube link to the page of all th video tapes of your dear leader obama spouting his Marxist views? Evidence is all over the place in those tapes. just click the link brucie take the ear plugs out of your ears and listen to your master’s voice.
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
6:49 pm
B, sorry i missed your 6:21.
I’m glad to count you as a good friend and a decent man.
Time for me to try and find “the better angels of our nature”.
Thanks, bud.
I retire now, having been rightfully put in my sorry place…
I want to change the world
I want to make it well
How can I change the world
When I can’t change myself
Try again tomorrow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–lQIqVM1cM
@@
January 27th, 2013
6:53 pm
I retire now, having been rightfully put in my sorry place…
I want to change the world
I want to make it well
How can I change the world
When I can’t change myself
Try again tomorrow
Yeah……right.
I won’t be holding my breath in anticipation.
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
6:54 pm
You can hold him to the higher standard, but history has proven he’ll never reach the summit.
I’m a pretty good judge of character, @@. Jam is not a malicious person.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVnMFYZok-Q
@@
January 27th, 2013
6:55 pm
It’s the difference between free-market capitalism and state capitalism. What we have now is state capitalism.
Free market’s cheaper.
@@
January 27th, 2013
6:58 pm
Bruno:
I never said he was malicious….just incapable. He likes the bar low.
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
7:01 pm
Here’s for you, @@.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYi7uEvEEmk
CC
January 27th, 2013
7:03 pm
Michael H. Smith:
You will get nowhere with JamVet and MarkV. They are the sum and substance of the disease now afflicting America. Both are owned, body and soul, by the Progressive Dimocrat Communist Party.
MarkV
January 27th, 2013
7:07 pm
Michael H. Smith @ 6:42 pm
Yes, I believe you are insane. One might cite such statement as “You have to defend Marxism by denying it exist in this country at any exposure of it” for evidence of that.
If you had any brain, which I doubt, you would do the only way that can prove your points: Quote something I have written accurately, and provide evidence that it was wrong. You have never done that, and apparently are unable to do it.
JamVet
January 27th, 2013
7:09 pm
B, it’s been a long time coming, but the time is here.
Your wise prodding has forced me to admit publicly what I have known privately for some many months; that I am not the real me when I am here.
I am a much smaller version of me. A version of me that I do not much care for. Apparently this venue served some strange purpose that allowed me to strike out at strangers and vilify them. It is time for me to take my fight with my demons elsewhere.
And with that, I now take my leave of these forums for the foreseeable future.
Perhaps I will show up next door for FNM occasionally. And should you and PB contact me sometime soon, I would be very happy, Bruno.
To those of you who shared a laugh or two with me, I wish you the best!
And to those of you, who I angered and belittled, often needlessly, I offer my sincere and useless apologies.
And in those rare moments when we actually stopped yelling at each other and learned from each other, I ask that you do more of that and learn from my mistakes.
So fond adieu and thank you to Kyle Wingfield and Jay Bookman and those of you here who put up with me and my BS!
Best wishes to all!
And what better way to sign off than with a final toast to the “blog band”?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a_8F6gflxQ
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
7:13 pm
You will get nowhere with JamVet and MarkV
I have to disagree, CC. Jam may come across as being partisan, as I probably do as well, but ultimately he is a truth-seeker, as am I. As for MarkV, his fragile ego can’t ever allow him to admit that he’s wrong, so he would rather split meaningless hairs than to attempt to see things from another’s perspective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlOzRPWeRRk
@@
January 27th, 2013
7:15 pm
Lovely Day, Bruno?
Neither you nor BW have seen me in the morning. I’m plagued with cowlicks.
Dusty
January 27th, 2013
7:18 pm
Hey what is this? I”m an expert on communism. Yes indeed I have read Dr. Zhvago, Anna Karenin, three books by Alexander Solzhenitsyn and one by Dr. Seuss.
Now beat those credentials if you can. (and smile!). It’s getting “heavy” around here.
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
7:20 pm
And with that, I now take my leave of these forums for the foreseeable future.
We all need a little space now and again to get back to our true roots, Brother J. Your friends will be right here waiting for you when the time is right to return.
P.S. Drop by Kyle’s on Friday night sometime. Maybe we can start a new tradition here without some of the lowlifes who populate Bookman’s blog. At least Kyle doesn’t allow attacks on the women bloggers without taking recourse.
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2013
7:22 pm
@@
That ain’t a cowlick. (ISH) This is a cowlick.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/suwarnaadi/hair/th_cowlick_zps667fadbe.jpg
I got one like it, except mine goes in the opposite direction (maybe that kid is from the Southern Hemisphere of something). Got mine from my Grandpa.
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
7:23 pm
It’s getting “heavy” around here.
Matters of the heart often turn out that way, Dusty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1KtScrqtbc
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 27th, 2013
7:24 pm
Well, how touching.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 27th, 2013
7:24 pm
Wait a minute, is this a name jack?
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
7:25 pm
Jam–I’ll be up in Atlanta tomorrow. I’ll give you a call.
@@
January 27th, 2013
7:26 pm
Not to come off as insensitive, but I’ve seen this before. Couldn’t help but laugh.
I am a much smaller version of me.
AmVet entered as HUGE and left as a smaller version of hisself?
In ain’t buyin’ it.
Déjà vu.
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
7:32 pm
Déjà vu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-S6md3LNgs
If I had ever been here before I would probably know just what todo
Don’t you?
If I had ever been here before on another time around the wheel
I would probably know just how to deal
With all of you.
And I feel
Like I’ve been here before
Feel
Like I’ve been here before
And you know
It makes me wonder
What’s going on under the ground
Do you know?
Don’t you wonder?
What’s going on down under you.
We have all been here before
We have all been here before
We have all been here before
We have all been here before
MarkV
January 27th, 2013
7:33 pm
Bruno @ 7:13 pm
As for MarkV, his fragile ego can’t ever allow him to admit that he’s wrong, …”
So Bruno is continuing in MHS’ steps, making accusation without providing any evidence. The way of cowards or people of marginal intellect.
@@
January 27th, 2013
7:36 pm
Hillbilly:
Mine are multiples….all on the same side. One at the front, another at the crown, and a third at the neckline.
Yours is what I call an isolated swirly.
Most women claim to fix their hair. I’m in the habit of properly placing mine.
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
7:37 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGBLh2iqsZw
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2013
7:39 pm
@@
I never fixed my hair……….didn’t realize it was broke….. (IW&SH)
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 27th, 2013
7:39 pm
@@ – In a normal situation we would have what is known as a “moment of clarity” and we would be on our way to recovery. But as you correctly noted, the steam powering that engine, if not occasionally let off in a big huff and puff, will cause our boy to swell up and explode.
Wouldn’t want to be around that.
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2013
7:40 pm
Yours is what I call an isolated swirly.
It’s more isolated now than it used to be but that comes with age.
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
7:40 pm
So Bruno is continuing in MHS’ steps, making accusation without providing any evidence. The way of cowards or people of marginal intellect.
If you had half of my brain–or balls–you might be something other than the sniveling wimp that you are.
@@
January 27th, 2013
7:43 pm
Andy:
This may be hard for you to accept, but I don’t think AmVet can make it without you.
(ISH)
@@
January 27th, 2013
7:47 pm
It’s more isolated now than it used to be but that comes with age.
Too funny!
A mirage in the desert???
Just shave it, Hillbilly.
MarkV
January 27th, 2013
7:47 pm
Bruno @ 7:40 pm
So Bruno is continuing in MHS’ steps, making accusation without providing any evidence. The way of cowards or people of marginal intellect. And when challenged, resorts to stupid insults and empty bopasting, which best documents his inferiority.
Dusty
January 27th, 2013
7:48 pm
Bruno,
I wasn’t referring to anyone personally, when I said “heavy”. It was the tone of the blog this late afternoon.. “Heavy” politics, the kind that makes Kyle turn off the lights so to speak.
Good song by the Hollies. “He’s not heavy. He’s my brother” was the motto of Boy’s Town,. a lasting message it seems.
CC
January 27th, 2013
7:49 pm
“It’s more isolated now than it used to be but that comes with age.”
DANG!
I can definitely relate . . .
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 27th, 2013
7:50 pm
@@ – Oh, I know that. Tomorrow morning’s going to be a tough one, he’ll wake up with Andy on his mind and then realize he swore off doing anything about it.
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
7:54 pm
Gotta pack it up for my trip to the ATL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlyVYOyKB2Q&list=PL93D132054C39FEF6
Dusty
January 27th, 2013
8:00 pm
MarkV
Come on now. You are no “shrinking violet’ about namecalling . You are not good about giving your own information to refute a dispute. It takes more than saying someone is wrong as you do. You have to say why.
You seem to think that anything you believe is absolute and everybody knows that. Not so. You have to give facts and quotes also. Try that for a change.
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
8:08 pm
Dusty–Some people can be saved, some can’t. Pearls……swine. Just sayin’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MNtzBlZWHc
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2013
8:09 pm
Good song by the Hollies. “He’s not heavy. He’s my brother” was the motto of Boy’s Town,. a lasting message it seems.
For what it’s worth, back when I was in a school my World History teacher told us that that line originally appeared as a caption a photo from the Korean War. The picture was of a soldier carrying a wounded comrade on his shoulder. I never have been able to find the picture, if it exists. Maybe somebody else knows.
I have to say I have known some folks where a more applicable phrase would be, “He ain’t my brother, he’s just heavy”.
@@
January 27th, 2013
8:12 pm
Hillbilly:
My husband’s balding pattern was made up of a crescent shape progressing around a small tuft of hair near the front.
For some strange reason, he vowed never to lose that tuft.
He should’ve gone to a hairdresser/barber to keep his vow with “the tuft”. Since he preferred my free haircuts, he and “his tuft” were soon separated. I’ll never forget the look on his face. It never grew back which told me it was on its last thread anyway.
(ISH)
Bruno
January 27th, 2013
8:15 pm
One last gem for my buddy Jam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP0VBB7BO64
@@
January 27th, 2013
8:18 pm
I don’t mind carrying someone who’s conscious. The conscious help lighten the load.
MarkV
January 27th, 2013
8:20 pm
Dusty @ 8:00 pm
Dusty,
I am sorry you are joining the purveyors of falsities and insults, and using exactly the same methods.
“You are not good about giving your own information to refute a dispute.”
“You seem to think that anything you believe is absolute and everybody knows that. Not so. You have to give facts and quotes also.”
I challenge you the same way I have challenged them: Quote me, and show evidence that I was wrong. I am always prepared to support my assertions. Are you?
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2013
8:20 pm
I don’t know what to say about somebody who would take a man’s last tuft. (IWH)
Mine ain’t that far gone. Mainly just up front and things are thinning around the crown. I always had thick hair. Anyhow, it don’t matter to me, no dyes, comb-overs, Rogain, rugs or the like. I is what I is.
As a friend of mine’s Mom used to say “Anybody don’t like the way I look, they can turn their damn head and look the other way”. I sure do miss her.
indigo
January 27th, 2013
8:28 pm
Michael H. Smith – 5:24 – “unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done”
You mean like now, when Big Business execs make huge salaries for essentially doing nothing?
@@
January 27th, 2013
8:30 pm
Whoa!!!!
Ariel Sharon, the former Israeli prime minister who has been in a coma for seven years, has shown significant signs of brain activity, doctors say.
@@
January 27th, 2013
8:34 pm
What to say, Hillbilly?
I have a thing for bald men. He knew that.
I was goin’ for the gold……
dome.
indigo
January 27th, 2013
8:35 pm
Michael H. Smith – 6:00 “Obama believes in those words heart and soul”
Please furnish a link showing Obama stating he believes in “from each according to their ability to each according to their needs”.
Since you stated unequivocally he beleives this “heart and soul”, you must have proof.
Or, as usual, are you just blowing smoke?
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2013
8:36 pm
@@ 8:30
It’s rare but it does happen. Where there’s breath, there’s hope.
I remember reading something several years back where a man regained consciousness after a long period of being in a coma. He said he was aware of everything going on around him but was unable to communicate. It’s something to think about.
Hillbilly D
January 27th, 2013
8:37 pm
I was goin’ for the gold……
dome.
Well, that ain’t no bidness of mine. (ISH)
Dusty
January 27th, 2013
8:45 pm
MarkV
That’s just it. I don’t remember any assertions (facts) that you have given for any kind of proof. Did you read it in a book? Took a college course or taught a course? Lived in another country with a government unlike ours?. A cut & paste from somebody? Some hint as why you believe as you do.
I think you are intelligent. But I only tell you how you sound when you blog. That comes across very unfavorably.at times. Use your pleasant side more often..
Until you do that, you will sound like a liberal who will not listen to anyone who differs..
MarkV
January 27th, 2013
8:45 pm
Dusty,
Just to give you an example about what you have charged, here is one from the recent debate about guns. After I wrote that the AR15 gun was used in Newton:
Rush @1:57 pm “A AR15 was not used in the shooting in Connecticut but was recovered in the suspects car. Maybe the AR15 just decided to walk into the school on its own since, you know, guns kill people.
CC @ 2:33 pm: “Please don’t confuse MarkV by giving him factual information. It deestroys his universe!” kill people.”
MarkV @ 3:36 pm
STATE POLICE IDENTIFY WEAPONS USED IN SANDY HOOK INVESTIGATION
…….
Seized inside the school:
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber– model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips
….
http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284&A=4226
Did I provide the information? After Rush and CC made fools of themselves, did they have the decency to apologize?
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
8:55 pm
MarkV
I don’t bother re-posting the idiotic crap you put on this blog and you know how find you so stupid you will never be able to go insane.
Though, I’ll let you clear-up something if you feel I’ve misrepresented your position. Some time back as I recall you expressed support for a Social Democracy, is that about right?
Now don’t run hide under the bed, just a simply answer yes or no.
Dusty
January 27th, 2013
9:06 pm
Well, MarkV,
I’m glad to see you provided gun information on that subject. Is that the only one?
Apologies are not abundant on blogs. I think it is the anonymity, the lack of face to face. But you did prove your point. Wasn’t that what you wanted?
Miss Manners would approve of very little on some blogs. She believes in universal courtesy but it just doesn’t happen that way many times..
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
9:07 pm
indigo
January 27th, 2013
8:35 pm
If you could read and use just a little common sense logic which you obviously do not have in your head, after listening to obumer spouting his support and obvious belief in re-distribution, which is exactly what is meant by the Marx mantra of “from each according to their ability to each according to their need, then your usual stupid personal attack against would not leave you apparently ridiculous before God and everybody.
And you need to get informed about big business your ignorance is showing again.
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
9:11 pm
Well, MarkV speak up, is the question too difficult for you to answer?
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
9:14 pm
Do you need me to restate the question, MarkV?
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
9:32 pm
Oh I guess the fascist socialist of the obama ilk ran away to hide their boogieman.
Then again, if I believed in their kind of evil anti-capitalist, anti-individual American liberty garbage I wouldn’t want it exposed either.
Booo!
Social Democracy
Social democracy is a political ideology that considers itself to be a form of reformist democratic socialism.[1] It advocates for a peaceful, evolutionary transition of society from capitalism to socialism.[2][better source needed] It asserts that the only acceptable constitutional form of government is representative democracy under the rule of law.[3] It promotes extending democratic decision-making beyond political democracy to include economic democracy to guarantee employees and other economic stakeholders sufficient rights of co-determination.[4] Common social democratic policies include advocacy of universal social rights to attain universally-accessible public services such as: education, health care, workers’ compensation, and other services including child care and care for the elderly.[5] Social democracy is connected with the trade union labour movement and supports collective bargaining rights for workers.[6] Most social democratic parties are affiliated with the Socialist International.[1]
Social democracy originated in 19th century Germany from the influence of both the internationalist revolutionary socialism and doctrine of communism advanced by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels; and the reformist socialism of Ferdinand Lassalle.[7] The Marxists and Lassallians were in rivalry over political influence in the movement until 1868-1869 when Marxism became the official basis of Germany’s Social Democratic and Labour Party.[8] In the Hague Congress of 1872, Marx modified his stance on revolution by declaring that there were countries with democratic institutions where reformist measures could be advanced, saying that “workers may achieve their aims by peaceful means, But this is not true of all countries”.[9] Marx stressed his support for the Paris Commune due to its representative democracy based on universal suffrage.[10]
A major non-Marxian influence on social democracy came from the British Fabian Society founded in 1884 by Frank Podmore that emphasized the need for a gradualist evolutionary and reformist approach to the achievement of socialism.[11] Fabianism is believed to have strongly influenced revisionist Marxist Eduard Bernstein who adopted its evolutionary socialism.[12] Bernstein rejected many major tenets promoted by Marx and Engels that he viewed as inaccurate or obsolete.[13][14] He opposed classical and orthodox Marxisms’ assumption of the necessity of violent socialist revolution and class conflict, claiming that socialism could be achieved through evolutionary means via representative democracy and cooperation between people regardless of class.[15] He claimed that a mixed economy of public, cooperative and private enterprise would be necessary for a long period of time before private enterprises would evolve of their own accord into cooperative enterprise.[15][16]
Social democracy in the 1930s began to transition away from association with Marxism towards liberal socialism, particularly through the influence of figures like Carlo Rosselli who sought to disassociate socialism from the legacy of Marx’s communism.[17] This also was the result of the alliance of liberal and social democratic movements in popular front movements in the 1930s, that opposed fascism.[18] Such views were inspired by Bernstein’s description of socialism as being an “organized liberalism”, that completely rejected Marx’s hostility to liberalism.[19] By the post-World War II period, most social democrats in Europe had abandoned their ideological connection to Marxism.[20] The Third Way is a controversial major faction in social democratic parties that developed in the 1990s, that has claimed to be social democratic though others have identified it as being effectively a neoliberal movement and not social democratic.[21] Another substantial contemporary faction in the social democratic movement are proponents of market socialism.[22]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy
Oh and for you Webster fans ~ Social Democracy
1
: a political movement advocating a gradual and peaceful transition from capitalism to socialism by democratic means
2
: a democratic welfare state that incorporates both capitalist and socialist practices.
What did Frank Marshall Davis, Obama mentor, tell lil’ militant barry at Occidental College about how he would have to bring about transforming country into socialist democracy.
Dang if it don’t sound all too familiar. Scary stuff!
bluecoat
January 27th, 2013
9:34 pm
Like Putin does.Think Georgia,South Ossetia————————???
bluecoat
January 27th, 2013
9:44 pm
Mark tell TD to move over.
Michael H. Smith
January 27th, 2013
9:55 pm
That boogieman got MarkV’s tongue.
As Willie says, turn out the lights the party over, they say that all good things must end turn out the lights the party over and tomorrow starts the same old thing again.
Goodnight all.
MarkV
January 27th, 2013
10:12 pm
Michael H. Smith @ 8:55 pm
Fools like MHS expect everybody to be here on their beck and call.
Here is your answer MHS:
MHS: “Some time back as I recall you expressed support for a Social Democracy, is that about right?”
Answer: NO.
As for “idiotic crap,” just look at your posts.
MarkV
January 27th, 2013
10:15 pm
Dusty @ 9:06 pm
Well, Dusty,
I would prefer you trying to prove your point. It is your turn.
md
January 27th, 2013
10:37 pm
“Nothing about your choice concept or your program “blows my mind”…. You give yourself to much credit for your intellect”
It’s “too”, just so you know.
And last I checked we get to choose whether or not we want to expand on the intellect that we are given at birth…….some choose to expand it and some choose to waste it…….choices are such a bitch huh???
td
January 27th, 2013
10:49 pm
Best explanation of modern progressive thought process that I think I have ever seen.
If you are taught bitterness and anger, then you will believe you are a victim. You will feel aggrieved and the twin brother of aggrievment is entitlement. So now you think you are owed something and you don’t have to work for it and now you’re on a really bad road to nowhere because there are people who will play to that sense of victimhood, aggreivement and entitlement, and you still won’t have a job.” ~ Condaleeza Rice
MarkV
January 27th, 2013
11:26 pm
Dusty @ 8:45 pm
I have seen the above post only now, and I wish there was more time to answer, but this is it in a very summary form. First, I totally reject the basis of your questions. Unlike some- quite a few- other people on the blog, I refuse to introduce my personal background into the discussion. In my view, a resort to any “authority” is already an admission of failure of the argument. To me, the only thing that matters is what is written down in these comments. The truth does not depend on who tells it. It does not matter if the person writing a comment is a Nobel Prize winner or an uneducated laborer, what matters is whether he/she is right or wrong.
As you might guess, I am not without education and life experiences. But I will not bring that into discussion as a factor. Also, I choose the subjects for comments, about which I know I can say something relevant.
Essentially, I do not comment here to proclaim any personal philosophy. What I deal with are arguments and contra-arguments. Let the truth be revealed by them.
@@
January 28th, 2013
12:06 am
I like the way this guy describes Obama
Obama’s Triumphal STATIST presidency
So, the case for Obama’s greatness goes as follows: He came to office with an array of statist notions. He forced “the sheer tonnage” of them upon the country. And he will leave the rest of the leftist dream’s fleshing out to that inexorable statist force-multiplier: time.
Leftists are sneaky that way.
@@
January 28th, 2013
12:13 am
It was, afterall, The CPUSA who declared Obama to be their stepping stone to success.
ew
@@
January 28th, 2013
12:18 am
Essentially, I do not comment here to proclaim any personal philosophy.
Straddling a fence leaves you open to splinters or barbed wire, Mark V.
Don’t complain when it hurts.
independent thinker
January 28th, 2013
7:40 am
Pure socialism in health care was introduced in the US by Ronald Reagan when he passed EMTALA and state of Georgia when it passed the bed tax all to pay for the care of the uninsured and indigent.Who pays for the uninsured under these GOP mandates?
Obamacare has an individual mandate.It forces individuals to pay if they are financially capable or paya penalty.
Members of the stupid party continue to spew out garbage on this blog about Obama being a socialist. No wonder these clowns lost. They just are incapable of getting these simple facts correct.Rinse Prebuss is your man for more humiliation. Let him and the tea party pick Saxby’s replacement -please.
Politico
January 28th, 2013
8:40 am
md
If the best you can come up with is a misspelled word on a blog, my point was more than been proven to you.
And stick with your program, appears you could fall off at any moment.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 28th, 2013
8:54 am
If Obama is not a socialistic wannabe (broad definition here MarkV) then Big Bird is not yellow.
MarkV
January 28th, 2013
9:22 am
@@ @12:18 am
An inane barb is not a sign of erudition.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 28th, 2013
11:59 am
The standard MarkV defense:
“I never said that”
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 28th, 2013
12:02 pm
“Obamacare has an individual mandate.”
Yes, not so independent non-thinker. And as I pointed out yesterday, it also is mandating more expensive health care plans that are no longer affordable to low-income people, causing them to cancel their healthcare coverage and INCREASING the number of uninsured.
Thank you, President Incompetent!
MarkV
January 28th, 2013
3:23 pm
A standard Tiberius’ stupidity – insinuation without evidence.