House GOP skirts debt-ceiling drama, can now focus on spending cuts
As I suggested last week, congressional Republicans don’t have to play around with the debt ceiling in order to make sure spending is cut during the next two months. And it appears that approach is more or less what they’re doing. From the Washington Post:
As House Republicans prepared to vote Wednesday on a plan to suspend the debt limit, Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan made clear that the party is in no way abandoning its uncompromising approach to the budget battle with President Obama.
Republicans will insist that automatic spending cuts take effect March 1 unless other cuts are adopted, Ryan said. They may force a shutdown of the government on March 27 unless Democrats agree to additional cuts. And they will demand that any future increase in the debt limit – likely to be necessary this summer if the measure to suspend the current debt limit is adopted — be paired dollar-for-dollar with spending cuts or other reforms.
“We have a sequester kicking in on March 1, a continuing resolution [on the budget] expiring on March the 27. We have budgets that, if the Senate decides to do its job this year, will come out in April,” Ryan said Wednesday at a breakfast with reporters. “These are the kind of points we think force the kind of conversation we think we have to have.”
The suspension of the debt ceiling passed, although I would have much preferred to see a raise for a specific amount of money rather than time. But I still like the general tactic of taking the debt ceiling — and nonstop cries about defaulting on the debt — out of the discussion and relying on the sequester to force the action on spending cuts.
The question now is whether we’ll get the sequester, some other kind of cuts (preferably the kind that address the long-term solvency of entitlements), or whether the House GOP will lose its nerve.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 24th, 2013
11:52 am
It’s amazing that some people are completely freaked out over this coming tiny, little sequester when, in reality, it’s only just a start.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 24th, 2013
11:54 am
And that also depends on if the sequester is even real spending cuts and not just the typical budget gimmicks the liberals are so fond of.
getalife
January 24th, 2013
11:59 am
Low information for your voters Kyle.
They caved.
Tell the truth.
Hillbilly D
January 24th, 2013
12:03 pm
To put this in military terms, this is a lot like the Atlanta campaign. An entrenchment, followed by a flanking maneuver, followed by an entrenchment, followed by a flanking maneuver……and on and on. The can kicking will go and on by both sides. Guess who gets to play the role of the cannon fodder?
Cletus
January 24th, 2013
12:08 pm
“They may force a shutdown of the government on March 27…”
That’s funny. Federal employees are always…always, without exception…paid retroactively for government shutdowns. Furloughs are just delightful paid vacations. Better think of some other way to cut spending.
md
January 24th, 2013
12:11 pm
“They caved.”
Actually, they are now playing chess instead of checkers…….about time.
curious
January 24th, 2013
12:22 pm
How many times have the Republicans said “we aren’t joking, this time”?
barking frog
January 24th, 2013
12:30 pm
md
Actually, they are now playing chess instead of checkers…….about time.
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Actually, Obama is playing for checkmate 2014 and the Republicans
are “pawning’ their future for publicity.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 24th, 2013
12:32 pm
Take a good hard look at diane feistein’s gun ban legislation because this is the last time you’ll ever see it.
It won’t even make it out of the Senate.
indigo
January 24th, 2013
12:38 pm
I’m thinking Republicans will pretty much adopt stalling tactics until the 2014 mid-terms in hopes of making a comeback.
GDRLA
January 24th, 2013
12:38 pm
Simple solutions as to the fiscal problems but will take decades to deal with & my fellow Americans won’t like the fact that they cannot any longer vote themselves bread & circuses.
Slowly raise SS retirement ages (65 for early retirement – 70 for full retirement – maybe for folks born after 1975 or some similar date; slowly raise Medicare age to 67 or 68 as well; uncap the SS earnings, require some Medicare payments to be made by the receipant (needs based, etc); AND CUT SPENDING…lots of garbage at ALL levels in the Federal budgets – cut it back – do not pass any spending bills UNLESS it can be funded fully & completely via tax revenues, whatever they might be – NO MORE BORROWING.
Just Saying..
January 24th, 2013
12:43 pm
“Take a good hard look at diane feistein’s gun ban legislation because this is the last time you’ll ever see it.”
Doing well on your predictions, Mitt?
Oh right, that’s just his Aesop talking…
Kyle Wingfield
January 24th, 2013
12:47 pm
getalife @ 11:59: Obama wanted the ceiling raised for a year or even four years, so you could equally say he “caved.”
I think the terrain is much more favorable now for what Republicans want to do.
Poilitico
January 24th, 2013
12:47 pm
Kyle
If this move is as well planned as the Sandy vote that they split so they could get a short term pr win, but ultimately passed, we will see if it was a cave or good strategy.
Logical Dude
January 24th, 2013
12:48 pm
Kyle: The question now is whether we’ll get the sequester, some other kind of cuts (preferably the kind that address the long-term solvency of entitlements), or whether the House GOP will lose its nerve.
I also hope that common-sense cuts are made, retirement age raised to link to life expectancy, and huge cuts to defense.
Of course, some people don’t think those cuts are common sense, but they’re a good start at the very least.
the red herring
January 24th, 2013
12:53 pm
paul ryan is correct—spending cuts must take place— america should get it’s house in order and begin a reasonable approach to getting back to a balanced budget. this is unpopular with democrats as they wish to buy votes with tax dollars but it should be very popular with taxpayers. The taxpayer if picking up the tab on all this largesse and simply put we can’t afford it. Overspending and wasteful spending is what keeps america borrowing about 37 to 40 cents of every dollar we spend. now just how stupid is that? The states should be handling their education and energy issues—that’s two entire federal agencies that we could live without. We should rein in the EPA and make it a 1/3 democrat–1/3 republican–1/3 independent committee –stop all the far left “let’s save this lizard and prevent these mean old nasty farmers from irrigating”.
barking frog
January 24th, 2013
12:53 pm
GDRLA
Slowly raise SS retirement ages (65 for early retirement – 70 for full retirement –
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The longer people remain in the work force the less opportunity available
for younger folks.
md
January 24th, 2013
12:54 pm
“Actually, Obama is playing for checkmate 2014 and the Republicans
are “pawning’ their future for publicity.”
Well, Obama has the weaker hand…..continued spending which will need more tax increases and the rich have already been raised. Get ready, if he wins you lose………..
barking frog
January 24th, 2013
12:57 pm
md
Well, Obama has the weaker hand…..continued spending which will need more tax increases and the rich have already been raised. Get ready, if he wins you lose………..
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Altruism is not always logical but it is necessary in a just society..
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 24th, 2013
1:02 pm
The Dems do not think we have a spending problem or that the deficit is too big. They think we just haven’t raised taxes enough to cover all their utopian dreams. As long as they continue to cover their ears and whistle past the graveyard of debt that they have created for our children and grandchildren, this thing is not going to be solved. It takes two willing partners to negotiate on fixing a problem, and they both have to agree on what the problem is. The Dems, with their incessant talk of more revenue, are not even on board with what the problem is.
The only thing the GOP can do is just let the sequestration happen. We now have a pacifist/appeaser Sec of State nominee and a President not interested in foreign affairs, so what good is it trying to fight them over DOD cuts. The other half of the sequestration cuts are necessary anyway, so let the Dems stew in the sauce they cooked up. We can rebuild the DOD, for the fourth or fifth time, in my lifetime, after we get the GOP back in charge of things.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
1:03 pm
Hey progs, if SS is self-funding, as you (sometimes) claim, why remove the cap on taxable earnings?
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 24th, 2013
1:04 pm
I intended to say Sec of Defense nominee, although both State and Defense nominees are pacifist/appeasers.
md
January 24th, 2013
1:05 pm
All you Obama voters remember all the hoopla about the signing of the new Paygo bill in 2009?
And 4 years later we still have trillion dollar deficits………hmmmmm.
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 24th, 2013
1:05 pm
GOP focusing on spending cuts?
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lol
Centrist
January 24th, 2013
1:06 pm
Obama and Democrats can’t face up to agreeing to spending cuts anywhere but defense. They reluctantly agreed to the sequestration mechanism, and will have to accept it like medicine while they and the media attempt to blame the bad taste on Republicans. It will be hard for the media to claim another “win” by Obama like his supposed “win” at moving tax increases from those earning $250K to $450K.
The actual spending cuts are necessary and good for our nation’s health. Democrats will attempt to protect their favorite fluff and “reduce essential services” as the President’s budget director said, but adjustments will reluctantly be made in the Spring. I doubt the House will lose its nerve.
md
January 24th, 2013
1:07 pm
“Altruism is not always logical but it is necessary in a just society..”
Just society? Define please……..
Does it include the individuals that choose to lead a simple life, with simple salaries and zero income taxes??
Matz
January 24th, 2013
1:11 pm
It’s amusing to read posts by people claiming to know what Democrats think, feel, and want, when it’s clear from the absurdity of their posts they’ve never stopped yammering their lame, right-wing stereotypes and parroted daily talking points long enough to ever actually LISTEN to a Democrat (if they even know one) in their lives. Mildly amusing, in a sad way, that is. Not HaHa! funny.
Tealiban Party
January 24th, 2013
1:13 pm
Why does Obama the Kenyan Soshulist Fascist anti-’Murika Dictator hate business and capitalism?
Stocks: Wilshire 5000, S&P make new highs
The broad Wilshire 5000 index, which tracks all stocks available for trade, hit an all-time high Thursday, the first major sign that the painful bear market of 2008 and 2009 has finally been undone.
Thanks largely to a powerful rally in shares of smaller companies, the Wilshire 5000 added 72.44, or 0.5%, to 15,842.65 Thursday, pushing it over its all-time high of 15,806.69 set Oct. 9, 2007.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2013/01/24/stocks-thursday-1-24/1860771/
bluecoat
January 24th, 2013
1:17 pm
Caved not a good term if either side shows some common sense in agreeing for the better or necessary.
barking frog
January 24th, 2013
1:17 pm
md
Just society? Define please……..
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I can’t define it but I know it when I see it…
barking frog
January 24th, 2013
1:20 pm
md
Does it include the individuals that choose to lead a simple life, with simple salaries and zero income taxes??
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A just society does but you do not always get everything you want….
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 24th, 2013
1:21 pm
Does it amaze anyone else that the liberals can hate capitalism with a purple passion and cheer on the stock market in the very next breath?
barking frog
January 24th, 2013
1:22 pm
Hey progs, if SS is self-funding, as you (sometimes) claim, why remove the cap on taxable earnings?
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why not?
jconservative
January 24th, 2013
1:23 pm
I vote for the sequester going into effect. It is a done deal.
Will this enter into the equation? 14th Amendment, Section 4, “The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.”
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
1:24 pm
Tealiban, get to the emergency room if your excitement for the Messiah lasts more than four hours.
Stocks are going up because of all the money we’re printing–it’s gotta go somewhere.
Tealiban Party
January 24th, 2013
1:27 pm
It’s amazing how all the retrogressives despise good economic news all because they don’t like the President of the United States.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
1:27 pm
barking frog: why not?
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Because you claim not to need it.
And because it isn’t your money. Your greed for other people’s property is disgustingly anti-American.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 24th, 2013
1:28 pm
I see that the liberals have made it easier to get around their little gun ban, instead of removing your bayonet lug, now you just rename your weapon.
This is not an AR-15, moron, it’s a XX37. So beat it.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 24th, 2013
1:28 pm
“I can’t define it but I know it when I see it…”
Much like bull excrement . . .
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
1:29 pm
It’s not about your messiah, Tealiban. It’s about explaining reality to you low-information types.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 24th, 2013
1:31 pm
t party – Actually, the Conservatives know what “currency manipulation” means.
southpaw
January 24th, 2013
1:32 pm
I’ll hope for cuts, but predict that the GOP will cave–again. But then again, what do I know? I also predicted that Hillary wouldn’t remember anything when she faced the Senate. :”>
md
January 24th, 2013
1:32 pm
“Hey progs, if SS is self-funding, as you (sometimes) claim, why remove the cap on taxable earnings?
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why not?”
Because there is a cap on both ends, but those calling for the removal of the front end cap never mention the back end cap.
southpaw
January 24th, 2013
1:34 pm
:$
southpaw
January 24th, 2013
1:34 pm
I give up on the red-face emoticon.
barking frog
January 24th, 2013
1:40 pm
Your greed for other people’s property is disgustingly anti-American.
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Actually, disgustingly American…
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 24th, 2013
1:41 pm
They think we just haven’t raised taxes enough to cover all their utopian dreams.
Like two wars and a prescription drug plan giveaway to big pharma?
barking frog
January 24th, 2013
1:42 pm
Tiberius
Much like bull excrement . . .
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or the SCOTUS on obscenity which is applicable here…
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
1:44 pm
Finn, Obozo made the prescription drug plan MORE expensive.
That’s some genius messiah you’ve got…
barking frog
January 24th, 2013
1:46 pm
md
Because there is a cap on both ends, but those calling for the removal of the front end cap never mention the back end cap.
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this really sounds like a personal problem, I should not be involved
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 24th, 2013
1:47 pm
“Actually, disgustingly American…”
In what way, shape or form is the desire for someone else’s property you didn’t work for considered “American”, barking frog?
sailfish
January 24th, 2013
1:48 pm
kyle
The republicans are giving themselves more time to do what? Same issues right back at them in three months. What is it exactly that they are gaining here?
By the way, please keep your hands off of our social security, that’s a non-starter.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 24th, 2013
1:53 pm
Come on angry white Conservatives, get your anger out now. Only 4 hours left until Kyle shuts down your embarrassing meltdowns again.
barking frog
January 24th, 2013
1:56 pm
Tiberius
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In what way, shape or form is the desire for someone else’s property you didn’t work for considered “American”, barking frog?
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Georgia Lottery for one, inheritance another…
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 24th, 2013
1:57 pm
“By the way, please keep your hands off of our social security, that’s a non-starter.”
Reforming a program that doesn’t pay for itself is a non-starter, sailfish?
sailfish
January 24th, 2013
1:59 pm
tiberius
I’m all for reform as in getting rid of the cap; cutting the program in any way shape or form? NO.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 24th, 2013
2:00 pm
“Georgia Lottery for one, inheritance another…”
You have a strange way of seeing the world, barking frog.
No one forces you to buy lottery tickets, and inheritance is freely given within the family, which means you’re not trying to get something you didn’t earn.
sailfish
January 24th, 2013
2:05 pm
tiberius
So both dems and repubs have been borrowing from the social security trust to fund their budget whimsies. When it comes to being paid back, we the people should be first in line!
barking frog
January 24th, 2013
2:07 pm
Tiberius
No one forces you to buy lottery tickets, and inheritance is freely given within the family, which means you’re not trying to get something you didn’t earn.
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greed makes you buy the lotto ticket even if you excuse it as helping education.
I’ve never known anyone who actually earned an inheritance as it would be
called compensation, if so..
barking frog
January 24th, 2013
2:11 pm
Tiberius
You have a strange way of seeing the world, barking frog.
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original American background probably…..
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 24th, 2013
2:13 pm
So you believe that government should maintain any program at it’s current levels, even if that program cannot fund itself, sailfish?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 24th, 2013
2:16 pm
“greed makes you buy the lotto ticket even if you excuse it as helping education.”
I’m greedy, but I don’t buy lottery tickets. And “greed” doesn’t make anyone buy anything.
“I’ve never known anyone who actually earned an inheritance as it would be
called compensation, if so..”
I think that anyone who sticks by their family and friends for life through thick and thin earns any inheritance they might get.
sailfish
January 24th, 2013
2:22 pm
tiberius
Social security was saved in the eighties by reagan and just needs some tweaking to stay 100% solvent, it can in fact fund itself and will be in better shape after the boomers are extinct.
barking frog
January 24th, 2013
2:23 pm
Tiberius 2:16
You may be right.
curious
January 24th, 2013
2:25 pm
Aesop’s Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
“Does it amaze anyone else that the liberals can hate capitalism with a purple passion and cheer on the stock market in the very next breath?”
Most liberals love the USA and want success for the Nation and its people.
Georgia, The "New Mississippi"
January 24th, 2013
2:39 pm
Obama will let the sequester take effect. He can an most likely will ask agency heads to submit plans to the White house for their proposed cuts and offer some “guidance”. He can then hope they are stupid enough to shut the government down on March 27th. The GOP Congressman have signed to many pledges with people that do not live in their states, are not eligible to vote in their states , and pay no taxes in their states to effectively serve our nation.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 24th, 2013
2:46 pm
“Social security was saved in the eighties by reagan and just needs some tweaking to stay 100% solvent, it can in fact fund itself and will be in better shape after the boomers are extinct.”
Incorrect, sailfish.
You’re relying on Congress being able to pay back into SS that which they have taken out. There is ZERO indication they will do that, or have any intention of doing so.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
3:00 pm
“Most liberals love the USA and want success for the Nation and its people.”
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That’s not how they vote though.
Bruno
January 24th, 2013
3:03 pm
It’s amusing to read posts by people claiming to know what Democrats think, feel, and want, when it’s clear from the absurdity of their posts they’ve never stopped yammering their lame, right-wing stereotypes and parroted daily talking points long enough to ever actually LISTEN to a Democrat (if they even know one) in their lives. Mildly amusing, in a sad way, that is. Not HaHa! funny.
Matz–I’m not sure why you think conservatives are so unaware of the thoughts, feelings and wants of liberals. For starters, YOU (along with 50+ other Libs) put your thoughts, feelings and wants out here everyday on the blog. And though it may shock you to know, every hard-core Con has plenty of Libs in their personal lives, whether friends, girlfirends, wives or husbands. Most importantaly, we live in a liberal society, in which virtuallly the entire media and school systems from the elementary level to the university level are dominated by liberal thought.
Apparently you missed the segment on Bill O’Reilly last night where he cited a recent study in which 23% of liberals claimed they ended a relationship due to political differences vs 15% of conservatives who did the same. He cited the study to once again draw attention to the fact that liberals are nowhere as tolerant as they claim to be. On his panel was a Democrat representative who admitted that the study matched her personal experience. Her theory, like mine above, focused on the fact that we live in such a liberal society with full indoctrination from the earliest of ages that anyone who thinks differently (Cons) seem odd and out of place.
Finally, Matz, I don’t recall you being especially sensitive to the thoughts, feelings and wants of any Cons here. In most cases, you get what you give.
Politico
January 24th, 2013
3:07 pm
“In most cases, you get what you give.”
True statement as long as you understand it is a two way street when using the “lib” and “con” argument which is some of the broadest of brushes that can be used her daily. Both sides use it well and frequently.
sailfish
January 24th, 2013
3:18 pm
“There is ZERO indication they will do that, or have any intention of doing so.”
We the people are their bosses, they will toe the line or be replaced – count on it!
Jefferson
January 24th, 2013
3:21 pm
Cuts to defense and revenue increases, the only solution to the problem.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
3:31 pm
Progs want to cut defense (an actual responsibility of government) so they can keep buying the votes of their parasite base.
I thought liberals wanted their nation and people to be successful.
Jefferson
January 24th, 2013
3:45 pm
Until then, just pout, cry, wine whatever — jack.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 24th, 2013
3:56 pm
“We the people are their bosses, they will toe the line or be replaced – count on it!”
And that has work – how, sailfish?
NONE of them, Republican nor Democrat, has a plan or intention to pay SS back.
And they keep getting re-elected at about an 85% rate.
Michael H. Smith
January 24th, 2013
4:00 pm
Progs want to cut defense?
For some strange reason I never thought of Ron Paul as being a pee-gressive.
Michael H. Smith
January 24th, 2013
4:10 pm
Remember Kyle, obama lost “ALL” moral high ground on this issue of raising the debt ceiling when he was a Senator and gave his extremely partisan political grandstanding speech….
Senator obama 2006 ~ I rise today to talk about America’s debt problem.
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies.
Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion. That is “trillion” with a “T.” That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion…
Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.
Michael H. Smith
January 24th, 2013
4:19 pm
Excuse me, Mr. obama, where exactly did you say that buck stopped?!
Bruno
January 24th, 2013
4:28 pm
Oh, and BTW, Matz, as long as we’re talking about sensitivity towards others feelings, you might take a moment to talk to some of your Lib cohorts who have acted like total jackasses ever since the election (We won, nyah-nyah-nyah).
Dusty
January 24th, 2013
5:12 pm
I”m not exactly clear on how these moves we are discussing are supposed to work.(OK, so I”m no genius on government activity in Washington.)
Exactly how does a sequester work? Just overlook debt? How do you manage that?
How can the House get the Senate to make budget cuts when Harry Reid doesn’t read what they send? Just rejects it.
How are we to get a budget passed when Obama has never made one that the House & Senate will pass?
All I’ve seen so far is roadblocks and blockheads.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
5:14 pm
For some strange reason I never thought of Ron Paul as being a pee-gressive.
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All progs want to cut defense, but not all who want to cut defense are progs.
md
January 24th, 2013
5:25 pm
“I’ve never known anyone who actually earned an inheritance as it would be
called compensation, if so..”
The money given as an inheritance was earned so nothing else matters. I think some are just ticked because they don’t get any of it.
These same folks probably complained because little Suzie got a $10 allowance and all they got was $1………..
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 24th, 2013
5:26 pm
Seems to me the libs so hate inheritance because they have never developed the discipline to resist the instant gratification syndrome and they despise those who have. Must be hard to admit to your children, that you had a great time, but spent it all, while they watch other people’s children get a little boost in income. The lib philosophy plays out daily in the Congress as the Dems keep spending and refuse to address our debt and deficit.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
5:28 pm
Dusty, the sequester (spending cuts) are already law. The House, Senate, and Obozo already signed off on it back in 2011. The question now is whether Congress will take action to undo these spending cuts.
Do nothing and spending is cut. Real Americans win.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 24th, 2013
5:37 pm
Finn, 2 wars and a crooked prescription drug program, instituted by the GOP? Well, one question, Barry had the House and Senate for two years and he never fulfilled his promise of ending the two wars, and he found some reason to double down on Medicare part D. So, before you incorrectly attribute these additions to the national debt to GWB, remember we have 4+ more years of these expenditures, since Barry failed to keep his campaign promises.
Barry has increased the National Debt by 6 T dollars in only four years.
Matz… I believe it was you who said how do the Cons think they know what the Libs want. Well, Jefferson demonstrated exactly what I said about Dems thinking the problem is not enough revenue.
Jefferson
Cuts to defense and revenue increases, the only solution to the problem.
No need to make this stuff up!
Skip
January 24th, 2013
5:39 pm
I thought all spending bills had to go thru the Republican controlled house, guess I was wrong.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
5:40 pm
Obozo also promised to end Our President Bush’s tax cuts even before they were set to expire in 2010. Now, they’re PERMANENT.
Who says Real Americans never give Obozo credit for anything?
md
January 24th, 2013
5:44 pm
Yep, I’ve never understood the bruhaha about inheritance. If a family makes a lot of money (or just some money), and takes a nice family vacation every year costing many thousands of dollars and has nothing in the bank when they die, then that is OK.
But if the family next door takes zero vacations and saves all that money for later then for some reason some folks on the left think they are entitled to some of it…..makes no sense.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 24th, 2013
5:44 pm
Rafe – That “2 credit card wars” was rachel maddow speaking through finn. You don’t really think he came up with that on his own, do you?
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
5:45 pm
some folks on the left think they are entitled to some of it
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You misspelled “scumbags”.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 24th, 2013
5:49 pm
Aesop
Finn is a fine boy, just keeps repeating things he hears, in a repetitious manner.
redweather
January 24th, 2013
5:50 pm
I support cutting the bloated defense budget as well as corporate welfare like subsidies to the fossil fuel industry and to millionaire agribusinesses.
Archibald Leach
January 24th, 2013
5:57 pm
I thought the House GOP’s number one focus was creating jobs?
md
January 24th, 2013
6:07 pm
“You misspelled “scumbags”.”
I prefer not to take the low road……
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
6:11 pm
I thought the House GOP’s number one focus was creating jobs?
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Unemployment is down since the GOP won the House. You’re welcome.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 24th, 2013
6:30 pm
The best way to create jobs is to balance the federal budget or at least reduce the deficit, the GOP House has been passing budgets with that in mind for the past three years, the Dem Senate has been on budget vacation for four years.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 24th, 2013
6:37 pm
One more item discussed earlier, someone said inheritance is not earned. You haven’t watched many families struggle for years trying to take care on an invalid parent, or one with Alzheimers that lingers for years and years, have you.
What has government done to earn that money? Did they send a person to sit with that parent and hold their hand, and listen to their complaints, help them through their suffering, and sit with them on their death bed waiting for the end?
getalife
January 24th, 2013
6:50 pm
This thing still on.?
What about that leverage Kyle?
Lowering the deficit is part of his agenda so you are heard and will see action like that 4 trillion cut the President already put on the table.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 24th, 2013
6:55 pm
getalife – Is bookman still saying the dummycrats aren’t after our guns?
Hillbilly D
January 24th, 2013
6:56 pm
someone said inheritance is not earned.
Doesn’t matter if it’s earned or not, people have a right to leave whatever possessions they have to whomever they damn well please.
It’s a totally moot point, though. Anybody who dies with a large amount of assets/money has the knowledge, where-with-all, and means to evade any kind of estate taxes. The only people who wind up paying estate taxes are small business people/family farmers, trying to pass the business/farm on to their kids. Is there really anybody naive enough to believe that any Kennedy, Rockerfeller, Gates, Bush, Buffett, etc family members will ever pay a dime in inheritance taxes?
getalife
January 24th, 2013
6:57 pm
Aesop,
Feinstein’s bill does not stand a chance to pass but she had to try for the 20 children slaughtered at school.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 24th, 2013
7:03 pm
Nice dodge, get.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 24th, 2013
7:16 pm
“Feinstein’s bill does not stand a chance to pass but she had to try for the 20 children slaughtered at school.”
You mean the 20 children you liberals slaughtered by disarming everybody around them?
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
7:27 pm
getalife: Lowering the deficit is part of his agenda
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Right after he repeals the Bush tax cuts and closes Gitmo.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 24th, 2013
7:35 pm
Rest assured “20 children slaughtered at school” the dummycrats will leave no stone unturned, no door unkicked down, no criminals allowed to peacefully sleep, no military looking rifle will be left ungrabbed, we will not rest at least until it’s time to bring this up for a vote and then, eh, oh well.
Maybe we could sing a song for ya?
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 24th, 2013
7:36 pm
Lowering the deficit is part of his agenda
And he is going to start working on that, when?
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 24th, 2013
7:39 pm
Well, we have the scary looking gun ban bill introduced today, so when do we get a bill dealing with mental health? All of the recent mass murderers have been mentally ill, but not all have used scary looking weapons. Seems the priority is reversed.
getalife
January 24th, 2013
7:58 pm
He did stop bush tax cuts for the wealthy but can’t close gitmo because of torture.
getalife
January 24th, 2013
8:02 pm
Are you cons still living in your make believe world where facts don’t matter?
Perhaps you should join the real world and pay attention to the changes.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
8:12 pm
Our President Bush’s tax cuts are permanent for better than 99% of Americans (and those few Democrats with jobs).
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 24th, 2013
8:16 pm
Permanent!
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 24th, 2013
8:21 pm
Well, if anything, after the dummycrats get beat to a pulp on this gun grab and prices go back down to where they should be, I got to get me one of those Saiga 12 gauge semi automatic shotguns I never knew about until they tried to outlaw them. That’s a damn good looking weapon. And loaded with double ought buck, you could kill a prius with one shot.
td
January 24th, 2013
8:36 pm
JamVet
January 24th, 2013
7:45 pm
No one is coming after your arsenal,
If you really believe that then you my friend are a fool.
JamVet
January 24th, 2013
8:42 pm
td, have you always lived in total fear of the Uncle Sam bogeyman?
BOOOOO! He’s coming to take your guns!
And if not when did this insane hatred for our government disease begin manifesting itself?
January 21, 2009?
You psychopaths and your guns are safe.
Until you go all James Adkisson on us. And even then we didn’t execute that Republican POS…
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 24th, 2013
8:58 pm
We’d really appreciate it if you liberals could contain your forehead bulging, vein popping, red eyed rage so that this blog doesn’t get shutdown. Take it back to bookman’s if you must.
td
January 24th, 2013
9:09 pm
JamVet
January 24th, 2013
8:42 pm
I guess I am just like our founding fathers that thought a strong central government was the most dangerous to liberty.
As far as taking guns all you have to do is look at what the progressives in these states are proposing and you can figure out what they want to do at a national level.
Kyle Wingfield
January 25th, 2013
11:36 am
Immediate commenting is back on, and there’s a new post upstairs about today’s big political news — Saxby Chambliss is not running for re-election.