Clinton: Here’s how you ‘patronize’ gun owners without being patronizing

I believe the “stuff” to which Clinton refers is the mantra that we need guns to protect ourselves from the government.

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Kyle! You should know by now that no liberal is ever patronizing or arrogant. If you don’t believe me, just ask them.

In all fairness, some would be right to say they’re not the patronizing type. Others–I wonder whether they’re patronizing on purpose, or if they genuinely have no idea how they’re acting.

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We need guns to protect us from the class of folks who voted for Obozo who believe his divisive, uncivil, fear-mongering rhetoric about the productive class unfairly having more stuff. And for that purpose, the bigger the magazine, the better.

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Kyle: The point is that so many liberals love to be told they’re the only right-thinking people who consider all sides and then come to the only rational conclusion — which happens to be a liberal one, time and again

Liberals: The point that so many conservatives love to be told they’re the only right-thinking people who consider all sides and then come to the only rational conclustion – which happens to be a conservative one, time and again.

Me: The point that so many narrow-minded thinkers love to be told they’re the only right-thinking people who consider all sides and then come to the only rational conclusion – which happens to be their own narrow-minded one, time and again.

Conclusion: Quit putting yourselves in labeled areas and look at things logically. Any self-enclosed group that keeps telling itself the same things over and over will be looked at as narrow-minded by the independents and those who look at things logically.

It’s seen by conservatives who claim global warming does not exist, or is not caused by humans. It’s seen by liberals who think that removing all guns is the answer to gun violence. (yes, I picked the most fringed, narrow minds from each side on these examples). Independents know that the answers to each of these is more complex

Good example above, Kyle, for showing Clinton being Clinton.

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Better check to see which “gun” he’s worried about being “controlled,” it could be the one he waves at all the women that get close to him.

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And, if he is talking about bullet launchers, then all you libs need to just shut your pie holes, the man has spoken. Kneel before the wisdumb and give us all a big Duh.

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“they’ve been listening to this stuff for so long that they believe it all”

Pretty apt description I’d say. Seems to me it applies to today’s “Conservatives” on a number of issues…guns, taxes, global warming,” libruls”, spending, “The Good Ole Days”, etc…

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Mitch McConnel talking to his constituents:
My friend, our freedom is under direct assault. From those who want take your guns.

Bill Clinton talking about Mitch’s constituents:
“all they’ve got is their hunting and their fishing,. . . they’ve been listening to this stuff for so long that they believe it all”

Okay, Bill may actually have a good point there.

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Those 23 orders do NOTHING to take ANY guns away from any law abiding citizen.
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Why do you ignore Obozo’s legislative proposal, which do?

Every word McConnell said is true.

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Yesterday, we had James Taylor saying that we should just voluntarily give up some of our freedoms, so that we could implement some gun control for the good of all.

With mind numbed robots like Taylor becoming plentiful, one can assume, we soon will have traded all our freedoms away. You always hear the Libs ffavorably talk about incrementalism, when it relates to gun laws, “oh, we don’t want to take your guns, just implement a few restrictions on the scary looking ones”.

But, mention incremental steps to them about, maybe we could require a 12 year old to get the permission of her parents, before having an abortion, or maybe outlawing 8.5 month abortions, and we get He#l no, you are trying to take women’s rights away.

So, James, He#l no, I am not volunteering to give up one of my freedoms, for you or your collectivist president.

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“they’ve been listening to this stuff for so long that they believe it all”

So, JDW, enlighten us on how you have become more conservative on an single issue, you pick it?

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“You cons are freaking out over better background checks.”

I have no problem with background checks, but I hope everyone understands that Newtown would have still occurred. His mother actually passed her background check……

Armed guards are the only answer in a country that will always have arms……..and even that will not stop the crazies.

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Actually, getalife, I think you could see sufficient support on the right for better background checks, including closing the so-called “gun show loophole” (which is neither about gun shows nor a loophole, but whatever).

Dats a fact.

Enforce the laws that are already on the books, particularly in areas like the south side of Chicago, and see what that gets ya.

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“Armed guards are the only answer in a country that will always have arms……..and even that will not stop the crazies”

It is a good opportunity to hire some vets so they don’t have to work at Wal Mart.

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Kyle, your approach to private sales makes more sense than anything I have heard before. It doesn’t involve a third party, which would increase the cost for the buyer or maybe the seller.

However, any restrictions on private sales of anything is un-American. Requiring one private citizen to investigate another is Orwellian. I have bought a gun from my brother, and the idea that without checking with the government that would be illegal in the future, is appalling. Criminals obtain their weapons through illegal means, and we need to recognize this. Imposing more restrictions on law abiding citizens is not the answer.

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Lil Barry is a good example of what Clinton is talking about. And Dems do own guns but the mantra of the NRA is the Second Amen. which my father and his father and myself have never had to worry about. Fear sells guns and the NRA is the master of fear and very powerful lobbyists. And we all know what lobbyists want. Saw smeone post a Ted Nugent video on FB over the weekend to prove a point and this person has a PHD and used Ted as an example of what is right about gun ownership.

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Liberals can change and modify their positions based on new facts or a reasonable argument from someone with a different point of view. I DARE you claim your party allows this type of thinking under the Team GOP tent !!!

As I said, catch a Lib in an honest moment………

And most certainly nothing condescending at all in your blog handle, Georgia. Just keep telling yourself how much smarter and more compassionate you are than the people you insult.

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How is anything Clinton said there wrong or misinformed? He was referring to the “passionate supporters”, not all of them. By “passionate”, he was of course referring to the most outspoken and arguably fringe minded conservative gun rights supporters who view the world as against them, and not the vast centrist majority of conservative gun owners who, like you said, have no problems with sensible regulation. But in today’s world, it seems that the loudest voices come from the farthest fringes, on all sides (better ratings that way).

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If it bugs ya’ll it has to be true or the right thing to do.

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these events are so rare and random that I don’t know how many can actually be prevented…… (That’s “routine” from a statistical POV … there’s certainly nothing routine about it for the victims or their families.)

I prefer to look at the big picture, Kyle. We live in a country of approximately 320,000,000 people in which the average life span is about 80 years old (numbers rounded for convenient calculations). Which means that approximately 4,000,000 die per year. In such a context, 20 deaths is pretty insignificant, and shouldn’t be used as a stand-alone motivation to change the law.

What makes it tough is the fact that the media seizes upon these sensational, yet statistically insignificant stories and plays them 24/7 for months, sometimes years on end.

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Looking at those long lines of people outside of gun stores, I know just what Clinton was talking about.

It’s been a long time since I’ve seen so many dirt road common people lined up like that.
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“Do not patronize the passionate supporters of your opponents by looking down your nose at them,” Clinton said.

“A lot of these people live in a world very different from the world lived in by the people proposing these things,” Clinton said. “I know because I come from this world.”

That part I agree with.

The rest of it sounded like a Scalawag to me.

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Then why is Mitch so darned scared of these proposals?

Logical, it is called being a politician and playing to YOUR crowd, just like Biden, when he said, “the Republicans want to put ya’ll back in chains”, or Obama when he tells people that the GOP wants America to default on her debt. Why do they do that?

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Can you imagine the feuds among friends, when one tells the other, Billy Ray, I can’t sell you that .22, the government says you got caught smoking weed, when you were 16.

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When ‘ya think about it, the regulations on sales is a boon for the gun dealers. With the prices up, I was gonna buy one from my brother or a friend of my nephew’s.

Do I still have time?

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Kyle,
Are you drinking the koolaid now? I don’t think a new system will solve anything. It would just be another opportunity for corruption, like everything else the government does. The only way to stop unwarranted killing is to take away the free man’s freedom…which they would love to do.

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This massive deception with the objective of denying our Constituionally guaranteed liberties is the work of a political ruling class that has enjoyed a population eat up by inertia for some time. We have allowed this bunch of politicians on both sides to chip away at our liberty for security. Now they must find away to defang those in red states, the blue states have already rolled over. These ruling class elitists are not statesmen.

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“Presumably, there are citizens who now, in complete compliance with the law, unwittingly sell guns to people who wouldn’t pass a background check for one reason or another, and who wouldn’t do so if private sales were subject to the same background checks.”

And my point applies to the buyers, not the sellers.

Those that want guns and can’t pass a background check will get them. Sure, it may make it a bit harder, but that won’t stop them is they want them. There are plenty of black market guns out there from folks that don’t follow the rules.

Shoot, our own gov’t has been known to put a few on that market……

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The point is that so many liberals love to be told they’re the only right-thinking people who consider all sides and then come to the only rational conclusion — which happens to be a liberal one, time and again — and no one is better than Clinton at making them believe that’s all true.

Interesting comment. I guess when one hears from Fox News, et al. (like I did last night), that Obama is a socialist, a marxist, AND a despotic tyrant, all at once and that is believed and parroted by so many on the right, that is totally different right?

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WASHINGTON, D.C. – President Barack obozo delivered a direct, forceful inaugural address Monday, during which he promised the continuation of a large national government and socially progressive platform to a lackluster crowd who at times seemed more interested in their cell phones than his speech…….the crowd gathered on the National Mall failed to catch the emotional fever pitch. It remains to be seen what, if any, role the strong smell of the marijuana smoke in one part of the Mall played on the crowd’s demeanor.

I wish he’d just shut up to and I’m not even high.

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MarkV

January 22nd, 2013
12:49 pm

The rifle used in the Newtown shooting, AR 15, falls under the federal definition of the term “assault weapon.”

I am pretty sure that definition is no longer in effect since the old ban is no longer the law of the land.

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@Bruno…”Which would merely qualify them as being obnoxious jerks in most situations.”

Obnoxious maybe…true nonetheless…

“A libertarian (and, as such, nonpartisan) researcher, Satoshi Kanazawa of the London School of Economics and Political Science, conducted a study that was published by the journal Social Psychology Quarterly. The paper investigates not only whether conservatives are dumber than liberals but also why that might be so….The short answer: Kanazawa’s paper shows that more-intelligent people are more likely to say they are liberal.”

http://www.americanscientist.org/science/pub/study-are-liberals-smarter-than—conservatives

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The last ban was a bit comical and goes to show how silly some of our laws are:

“In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum number of cosmetic features from the following list of features:

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).”

Maybe I’m missing something, but can someone please explain to me why having a bayonet mount would turn any weapon into an assault rifle……

Not to mention if the magazine wasn’t detachable then it mattered not how many shells it could hold.

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A bit of the old Trojan Horse.

They’re not to be trusted, in my opinion.

Legilative creep can serve as an entanglement to law-abiding citizens. At some point, it wouldn’t surprise me if any weapon used in an assault could be labeled as one.

Hillbilly:

Did you watch “An Ultimate Guide to the Presidents” on the History Channel?

For someone (me) who’s never been a history buff, other than what was taught in school, it was very enlightening. They still portrayed Lincoln as some champion of the oppressed. I’ve explored the truth about Lincoln. He wasn’t a champion of the oppressed…more like the oppressor.

Now Calvin Coolidge? A man of few words, but when he spoke…it was worth a listen.

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I’m guessing that most of those women I see waiting in line to buy a purse size pistola @ the local gun store and the gun shows aren’t into hunting and fishing, Bubba.

When you’re an ex-President who has lifetime 24-7 Secret Service protection it’s probably easier to ridicule the unwashed masses who have to provide for their own safety.

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@Kyle…”Conservatives do not object to “helping genetically unrelated strangers””

YOU may believe that but the run of the mill “Conservative” of today does not. Nor did you last Presidential candidate (re: the 47%).

As for the rest of the spin…let me expand…

“Kanazawa’s paper shows that more-intelligent people are more likely to say they are liberal. They are also less likely to say they go to religious services. These aren’t entirely new findings; last year, for example, a British team found that kids with higher intelligence scores were more likely to grow into adults who vote for Liberal Democrats, even after the researchers controlled for socioeconomics. ”

In my book if you say you are a liberal and vote liberal you are liberal. Even if you can find an isolated data point or two.

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Kyle Wingfield
January 22nd, 2013
1:34 pm

“Conservatives do not object to “helping genetically unrelated strangers”; we believe centralized government planning is not always or even often the best way to do this.”

….but the problem with many conservatives is that they believe that the private sector…particularly the charitable sector…..can handle they myriad problems of the nation. Problem is….the private sector can not effective handle the VOLUME of affected people. It will take a COMBINATION of both the private and public sectors to address the national issues! Privatization of many governmental functions will not work!!

That’s one main difference between liberals and conservatives; conservatives won’t address the VOLUME……liberals focus on the VOLUME…….

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What all must get a hand on is that the Heller and McDonald decisions by the SCOTUS took threats to the 2nd Amendment off the table. These two decisions, like Roe v Wade, are here to stay. I would recommend all read those two decisions.

Now, I admit I do not have a handle on those folks who sit in their houses with multiple weapons and several hundred rounds of ammo in fear that government troops will appear any day to take their guns. I always envision some heavily armed guy and his family all hunkered down in their bunker ready to fight off a platoon from the 101st and an Air Force fighter flies over, drops napalm on his bunker and all you hear is the sound of frying bacon and melting metal.

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@Tbone…”Based simply on observations, I think the left leaners go out of their way to presume some sort of intellectual superiority as a means of self-security. Anyone willing to make that sweeping generalization is a fool.”

Statistics can in fact be “sweeping generalizations”. Hang around this blog and you will see lots of them…this particular one happens to appear quite consistently and could be considered more of a working hypothesis.

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“That means guns kill about 14% of all children and teens that die in the US every years…that is not “pretty insignificant””

“Killed by gun users”, NOT guns kill.

The next question would then be how many would not have died had another form of weapon been used……..impossible to know that answer. All speculation from there……..

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Ben Franklin was a paleo-liberal. You know, the kind that believed in liberty.

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Data point: your Liberal Messiah thinks we don’t have a spending problem. Not exactly a sign of higher intelligence.

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And for the superior liberal on board, there is a huge difference in “helping genetically unrelated strangers” and “voting for others to help genetically unrelated strangers”.

I get tickled listening to the many here that have no problem taking the food from another’s refrigerator to feed the homeless and then patting themselves on the back for feeding the homeless.

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Logical Dude @ 1:22

A Federal firearms permit for an automatic weapon, is considerably more difficult to obtain than a driver’s license.

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“That works both ways, also……i.e., conservatives think ideologically, while liberals think logically.”

Should a student that CHOOSES to study 24/7, does no partying and makes A’s have to share those A’s with a student that CHOOSES to party 24/7, does no studying and makes F’s?

Logic says no, ideology says yes……..so liberals think what now?

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Maybe we can get a two-for-one and use the voter ID card as permit to purchase a gun.

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and liberal men are ruled by their women.

All men are ruled by their women. It starts with Mama and just continues on. Anybody who doesn’t believe that is just in denial. (IW&SH)

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Hillbilly: A Federal firearms permit for an automatic weapon, is considerably more difficult to obtain than a driver’s license.

Which is why I was saying that I was being silly.

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Hillbilly:

All men are ruled by their women. It starts with Mama and just continues on.

Up to a point.

Then there’s the adversarial relationship….the woman who loves the combat AND the combatant, equally.

(ISH)

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Hey, Clinton was the one that convinced the media and the country that oral-sex with Ms. Lowinski did not constitute infidelity. The media and the country bought it, didn’t they? So, why not say that the Right listens to things and believes them. We all sure know that the Left does.

Our country and its leaders learned alot from the government of pre-WWII Germany. If the media says it enough, the citizens will believe it. Look at what happened there………..gun-control was “for the safety of the children”…..look what that got them and will get us.

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I’d like to weigh in on this whole IQ discussion -

Nancy Lanza described her son to friends as a genius of sorts with a high IQ who was able to complete his high school studies in the 10th grade.

Yeah, he probably would have voted democrat.

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luangtom:

All of that is dependent upon what your definition of “is” is . . .

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Truth is always a defense.

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Liberal men ARE women.

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Libs think their messiah is a genius, and yet four years with zero progress on unemployment.

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…zero progress on unemployment.

Riiiight.

Because we are still hemorrhaging hundreds and hundreds of thousands of jobs a month like we were in 2008.

You did a heckuva job, connies…

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What then are liberal women?
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Whatever they are, they think the world owes them free contraceptives and partial-birth abortions.

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Police are rarely there when you do need them and always there when you don’t.

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Unemployment higher today than four years ago.

Liar.

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@Kyle…”You keep insisting on the validity of the self-identification. I keep going back to the parts of the study that seem to undermine said validity. When you consider how misinformed people (on both sides) often are about what others believe, you can grasp how meaningless these kinds of studies are”

I think the self-identification part is the really interesting part. For most of the last 30 years the word “liberal” has been a disparaging term used by those on the right. Now what we are seeing is a resurgence in acceptance and even an embrace of the term. At a macro level I think that is another trend against the current crop of Republicans. Over time demographics and other trends such as “liberal” self identification are going to force a move to the center or a move to irrelevancy.

As for the misinformation…yep there is a lot on both sides of these arguments, but I don’t think that renders the studies meaningless. One of the things you learn when trying to get large numbers of people to do what you want is that truth and reality are really meaningless. Everyone has their own version, the trick is trying to make what you are trying to accomplish fit in their narrative. That is what makes the way people see themselves as the really important bit.

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Well, heck, I have to get all these super superlatives straight here. Never saw so much “intelligence” paraded around. It’s enough to make universities close shop after hearing what these intellectuals call “smart”.. But never mind. Here’ s my “WHO IS SMARTER” chart & other Cliff Notes
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smartest—–dumbest
^^^ ^^^
liberals conservatives
women men
elephants giraffes
dogs cats
gators lizards
snakes worms
crabs shrimp
oysters plankton
bacteria viruses

This research was done by the Higher IQ Section of the San Diego Zoo in their Annual Treatise Review of Higher Learning Snafus and Less Than Human Liberal Leanings. . For further information contact: Chairman Gorill Baboo B.S, M.S.,PhD in the AJC Banana Unit.

FOOTNOTE: The Feds just dropped the $$ for this study. A statistical review now shows that CONSERVATIVES are more intellectual than liberals. Absolutely!.

PS: For those who did not understand the review, this is a “flight of fancy” not drawn from facts. Sho nuff!

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“Clinton: Here’s how you ‘patronize’…”

“This is just Bubba…”

Rising above the fray Kyle?

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And all this time I thought viruses were smarter than bacteria…………

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Mr. Wingfield,

I just read this piece, and from the tone of it, you are the one looking down your nose at others. So Pres. Clinton made some frank observations. What of it? Are you going to say you didn’t jump on the opportunity to leave your native corner of Notmuchtado, Georgia to fill your life with new, different, and exciting things? Please. Since when is Pres. Bubba from Bubbaville obligated to put shinola on the manure pile to keep from offending your delicate, “open-minded” small-town sensibilities? Oh right; he’s not.

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Del
January 22nd, 2013
2:00 pm
“HDB, — If education produces greater prosperity than economically the state of Texas, a red state outperforms California and New York both blue states. I guess that the education system in Texas must do a few things better.”

If you check the education system ratings, New York and California students are outperforming those in Texas…..

Kyle Wingfield
January 22nd, 2013
2:03 pm

Kyle…the systemic designs for the private sector preclude its being effective enough to handle the myriad problems of society; in fact, the private sector is limited by money, reach…and in certain cases, motivation. As I stated…the VOLUME is the key here! In a nation of 320M people, lets use as an example…25% need assistance….80M people….the private sector could probably reach 10% efficiently (8m)…that leaves 72M people without access to certain services. The government is the only entity that could address that volume! The efficiency scale would decline due to the volume…but it could be handled. The design of the private sector would cause a systemic breakdown when the capacity exceeded a certain percentage of the design……130% let’s say!!

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Liberals are all hot now for background checks even though every FFL holder is required to execute such a check before selling a gun.

Liberals are quick to seize on checks for private sales but cannot explain why people who lie on background checks are almost never prosecuted. Of about 70,000 cases of such lying reported to the feds annually, only about 400 are prosecuted.

What’s the value of calling for more laws when many of the ones now on the books aren’t enforced? Answer: it makes liberals FEEEEL better.

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New Zealand environmental advocate launches campaign to ban cats as pets.

You can have my guns but when you libs come for little Killer, we’ll scratch your eyes out.

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You guys lost the election and the majority of voters are outnumbering your stubborn, ignorant, paranoid ways. Deal with it. Or hell, move to South America or the Middle East.

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Two-word description of the Inaugural Address: “Djobama Unleashed” … #FreeToFightForAll #HopeWIns

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Van Jones (@VanJones68) January 22, 2013

Tacky but typical for Jones. A call to all comrades?

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Boy, all that talk about logic and ideology sure fizzled out fast when confronted with logic……

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JamVet, it’s just a simple fact, your vicious personal attack notwithstanding. Unemployment higher today than four years ago.

That’s some intelligent messiah you’ve got.

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Remind me again, are liberals limp wristed babys or jack booted thugs.

If I may….

limp wristed babys who implore their politicians to do the jack bootin’.

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td @ 1:03 pm: “My point is that there is not currently any Federal definition of an “Assault Weapon”.”

So what? My point was that “a ban on assault weapons might prevent a similar mass shooting.” Since there used to be a ban on assault weapons, in which the weapon in question was banned, and my point was about a possibility that a ban might prevent a mass shooting, the current existence or nonexistence of the law is completely immaterial.

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National unemployment stands at 7.8% today the same rate as when Obama took office. However, if there was the same number of people active in the job market now as there was when Obama took office the unemployment rate today would be much higher. It would probably be around 10%.

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Liar is a person who has lied or lies repeatedly. There is nothing about this word that makes it unsuitable for use by mature persons.

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Besides, you know BB’s claim is a lie.

That is the best part! You don’t care!

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‘Erotic’ Novel Featuring Barack and Michelle Obama on Sale Now

ew

Some more liberal intelligence, on display.

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MarkV,

What about the Remington 742 Woodsmaster now replaced by the 7400. There over a million of them out there they’re chambered for a variety of center fire calibers including .30-06 Springfield. The .30-06 is a lot more powerful than the .223 or the 5.56×45 round fired in so called AR-15 assault rifles, that the Obama administration want to ban. The 742 or 7400 along with similar rifles from other manufactures aren’t tagged for gun control banning legislation. The 742 is a semi-automatic rifle with a magazine that holds 4 rounds with one in the chamber. A shooter with multiple magazines each loaded to capacity could inflict considerable lethality should a shooter be a deranged individual intent on committing mass murder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Model_742

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Don’t let the big picture go over your head. They were smoking dope at the inauguration yesterday, an event that was probably ate slam up with law enforcement and military.

There ain’t a law in the world that can keep someone from doing something illegal, when they set their mind to it.

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Again, take it up with Kyle, oh confused one. He sanctioned it’s use here.

And your observations aside, to MarkV’s point, exposing inveterate, chronic, unabashed liars and their serial lies is anything but childish.

Cuddling up with them as you do – simply because of ideology – is rather emotionally immature though…

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Kyle, you make a lot of sense with your ideas on handling the private sale loophole. That is one LEGAL way that felons and the mentally unstable can come into possession of weapons.

I don’t want to take away people’s weapons, but I think there ought to be a sliding scale of background checks and registration. Right now, you can own a machine gun IF you get a federal license. No license should be necessary (IMHO) for a .22 rifle or a shotgun or even a revolver. But for semi-automatic pistol or an “assault” weapon, there should be more licensing and registration requirements.

I also agree that we need to do a LOT more in enforcing the existing gun laws. A convicted felon discovered with a gun in his/her possession should be an automatic 20-year prison sentence, with NO PAROLE. Commission of a crime involving a gun should add 20 years to the sentence – again, no parole. People who fail to properly secure their guns should also share responsibility (see newest headlines about a mother that allowed her 14-year old to shoot his 15-year old brother. Training in gun safety (NEVER point ANY gun, loaded or unloaded, at another person unless you intend to kill them) would help with those SUPPOSED to be handling guns.

And give murderers the death penalty and ensure it is carried out within 2 years of the crime.

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Bill is right on track, again.

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Bruno must have gotten beat up over at Bookman’s a few times too many and is now lurking around over here with his feefees all hurt. Remind me again, are liberals limp wristed babys or jack booted thugs. I can never for the life of me keep that straight.

And I’m guessing that the Libs also think they hold the edge on basic maturity.

BTW, mbct, how many different names have you posted here under?? Your shtick was tiresome the first time around.

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NBC Admitted: No ‘Assault Rifle’ Used in Newtown Shooting

“They say now that there were actually four handguns inside the school, not just two as we were initially told. Four handguns and apparently only handguns that were taken into the school.

We knew that Adam Lanza, the man said to be the gunman here, also had an ‘assault-style’ AR-15 -style rifle that he had had taken to the school, it was in the car he drove there, his mother’s car, but we have been told by several officials that he had left that in the car.”

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/30208-nbc-admits-no-assault-rifle-used-in-newtown-shooting/

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Del
Don’t be bringing my 742 into the discussion, now Mark has it on his list of “guns with the most lethal power”. I bought in 1973 and killed a few deer with it, use it every season, some like this one, I never get to pull the trigger, just tote it back and forth to the stand. As far as I know it has never snuck out at night and harmed anyone, I know that I have never pointed it at another human or anything else except a target or a deer. If they come and get it they are going to have trouble. Hard to take down a deer with something that do not have lethal power.

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One problem with the private sale restrictions in Georgia anyway, is that Gov has no idea of who owns most guns. There is no registration in Georgia. I have several that were inherited, now there is a sticky wicket. You inherit grandpa’s old pump shotgun that he purchased in 1930, but you are legally restricted from owning a gun, because of some poor decision you made. There is no record of the guns existence, so what do most people do?

If you sell a gun you bought from a friend, who said he bought it from someone he knew, are you going to not sell it to your brother, when no one knew you had it, to begin with. Like most regulations that are crafted with the sole purpose of just pretending to try to do something, these will be very difficult, if not impossible, to enforce.

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Some people need an assault weapon to shoot a deer. Some people don’t.

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“… The negativity about the current state of the US has a politically partisan split – Republicans stated that the country’s best days have already passed and Democrats say the best days have not happened yet. Seventy-five percent of Democrats gave positive reviews of how the nation will be five years from now, but only 15 percent of Republicans were positive – a 60 percent partisan gap.”

Imagine that.

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“Seventy-five percent of Democrats gave positive reviews of how the nation will be five years from now..”

Well, Obamacare kicks in next year and all those just out of college kids that weren’t buying insurance and are just now adjusting their lifestyles to pay for their deferred college debt will be singing a different tune…….that 75% favor-ability will drop like a rock. Funny how it works when folks wake up to the real world and realize they voted for all those bills……and now have to pay for them.

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Some folks sure do have an IMAGINATION!

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