Obama’s second inaugural (updated)
There were, I think, three main elements to President Obama’s second inaugural address (other than its brevity at just 19 minutes, which was the only truly surprising thing about the speech):
First, there was his identification of what — or who — is at the root of our problems:
- “The patriots of 1776 did not fight to replace the tyranny of a king with the privileges of a few …”
- “For we, the people, understand that our country cannot succeed when a shrinking few do very well and a growing many barely make it.”
- “We do not believe that in this country freedom is reserved for the lucky or happiness for the few.”
In case you didn’t catch his drift, I’ve supplied some emphasis. There are just a “few” people who are keeping the rest of us from … what exactly? Does anyone actually believe only a “few” Americans (even granting the president poetic license to mean a “few” as a relative share of a nation of more than 315 million people) are happy? Or enjoy freedom? Or experience financial success?
To understand his exaggeration of the cause of our problems requires the second element of the speech, which is the gross mischaracterization of the positions of the president’s political opponents. Here are two examples:
- “No single person can train all the math and science teachers we’ll need to equip our children for the future, or build the roads and networks and research labs that will bring new jobs and businesses to our shores.”
- “… we reject the belief that America must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future.”
Who, exactly, claims that a “single person can train all the math and science teachers we’ll need,” or that a “single person can … build the roads and networks and research labs that will bring new jobs and businesses to our shores”? Who has claimed that such a solitary trainer of teachers or builder of roads exists?
And who, exactly, believes our nation “must choose between” programs for retirees and, say, education? The GOP presidential nominee who wanted to restore the Medicare spending cut to fund (on paper) Obamacare? The Republican leaders whose proposals for Social Security involve slowing the growth of benefits?
Who are these unreasonable people who hold these radical beliefs?
Figments of Obama’s imagination — that’s who. This is the kind of willful misrepresentation of opposing viewpoints that is the stock-in-trade of Obama’s rhetoric.
Hand-in-hand with this misrepresentation is the projection onto others of the kind of behavior Obama himself regularly displays: “We cannot mistake absolutism for principle” — kind of like saying you won’t extend tax cuts for everyone else unless taxes go up on the “few” — “… or treat name-calling as reasoned debate” — kind of like calling the other side “hostage takers.”
Finally, there were the policy prescriptions to which Obama alluded. This was the element of the speech that made it sound akin to a State of the Union address. There were allusions to, though no detailed proposals for, reforming government, the tax code and schools; addressing climate change via sustainable energy sources; support for gay marriage; attempting comprehensive immigration reform; pursuing the kind of gun control measures he proposed just last week; and, most of the blue, shortening the time it takes to vote on Election Day.
Take these elements together, and it was a speech being received (with some degree of shock) by liberals as a thoroughly liberal speech. And (with far less shock) by conservatives as the same.
Why it took liberals aback, I don’t know. The notion of Obama the Centrist has appealed only to those who believe he really should govern as a socialist. But it does not portend any more of a spirit of cooperation during the next two years than we’ve seen during the past four.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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Bruno
January 21st, 2013
11:47 am
Is there any reason we should believe that the next four years will be any better than the last four?? Though we can hope that natural business cycles will help to restore the economy, my guess is that ObamaCare will have a dampening effect as health care costs go through the roof.
Kyle Wingfield
January 21st, 2013
11:53 am
And…the speech is under way.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
12:00 pm
Pretty ironic hearing Obama’s calls for “togetherness” after he just spent the last four years dividing people on the basis of race, class and political affiliation.
Kyle Wingfield
January 21st, 2013
12:01 pm
Didn’t take Obama long to get to the idea that it’s all the fault of the rich.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
12:03 pm
So much for “togetherness”, it’s once again about Villains and Victims.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
12:06 pm
Nice platitude about lasting peace not being the result of constant war. Too bad our enemies don’t see it the same way.
Does anyone think the Drone Pres will be in line for another Nobel Peace Prize??
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
12:07 pm
The most divisive, angry, petulant putz ever to hold the office.
Richard Coleman
January 21st, 2013
12:08 pm
Well work with him and stop seeing the color of the man
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
12:10 pm
Wonderful to see you regulars celebrating your moment of reward.
In your usual way…
Kyle Wingfield
January 21st, 2013
12:12 pm
And…it’s over. Just 19 minutes long? Surprising.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
12:13 pm
What color are Obozo’s trillion-dollar deficits, Richard?
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
12:13 pm
That was it??
Almost came across as a campaign speech to me. Long on rah-rah, short on anything specific that will get us out of the financial mess we’re in. At least he didn’t beat the “look at the mess we inherited” drum for a change.
Kyle Wingfield
January 21st, 2013
12:15 pm
Here’s a transcript for everyone who, like me, wants to go back and review what the president said.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
12:21 pm
Great speech.
Lets hope for no scandals, no endless hearing by the vast rw conspiracy, no new occupations and no economic collapses like his first term.
It does not get any better than that.
God bless the Obama’s.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
12:22 pm
What color are Obozo’s trillion-dollar deficits, Richard?
I wonder if the Libs will ever notice that 95% of race-based comments come from their side.
Kyle Wingfield
January 21st, 2013
12:23 pm
Good grief, this poem is going to take longer than the speech.
Bobby
January 21st, 2013
12:28 pm
Well, Kyle. With rightwingers and bigots like yourself around there wasn’t much for President Obama to say except to try and bring those of us who care about the USA and actually served in the military forces together.
You would be better suited to join Neal in retirement.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
12:31 pm
It is going to be a long four years for you cons.
Perhaps you should look at some of the great things for our country instead of just focusing on the bad things for your failed party.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
12:38 pm
Perhaps you should look at some of the great things for our country
Help me out, get. Last I checked the economy still sucked, gas prices are still high, we’re still in Afghanistan, Gitmo is still open, the Patriot Act was expanded and there is no way we’re paying down our debt in our lifetime. Fill me on in some of the great things that have happened since the Big O took office.
I’m old, and won’t be in the workforce for too many more years, but I feel badly for our young folks. Massive debt and crappy employment outlook will be our legacy.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
12:42 pm
Well looks like reality still missing over here and the absurdity of claims and whines continue. Most will never see or admit the great tone of his speech and leadership of our President to do the right things even against a group that 4 years ago set their minds to stop him on every front.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
12:47 pm
Most will never see or admit the great tone of his speech and leadership of our President to do the right things
Put your Messiah Complex aside for a minute and explain all of the great things that Obama has accomplished.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
12:51 pm
And just think, it only took a half century to get from the Greatest Generation to the Sorriest one.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
12:53 pm
“messiah complex” — what a foolish claim. Sorry you are so uninformed about Obama’s accomplishments. I would have thought you had the ability to use more of the internet to comprehend reality. You’ve been told any number of times but refuse to comprehend. Good luck with that.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
12:54 pm
Protesters smashed windows at two banks and a Hooters restaurant early Monday near Chinatown in Northwest Washington, marking the first violent civil disturbances reported amid inauguration events, according to the Metropolitan Police Department.
I know why the obozombies attacked the banks by why would anyone hate on a Hooter’s. You libs really are weird.
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
12:55 pm
We can feel lucky that we have an highly intelligent, competent president. His speech was about equality. Kyle accusation that it “Didn’t take Obama long to get to the idea that it’s all the fault of the rich” is a disgusting lie.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
12:55 pm
And just think, it only took a half century to get from the Greatest Generation to the Sorriest one.
Aesop–But don’t forget, they’re all properly indoctrinated to keep the Dems in power for decades to come. This generation doesn’t go for that self-reliance crap, that’s for suckers.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
12:56 pm
Keep,
The only ones using the term “messiah” are the cons.
Lets stop that silliness cons.
He is President.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
12:58 pm
I would have thought you had the ability to use more of the internet to comprehend reality. You’ve been told any number of times but refuse to comprehend.
So far the Libs are 0-2 in listing Obama’s great accomplishments. You would think it would be easier given how numerous they are.
Where’s Adam with one of his cut-n-paste jobs??
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
1:00 pm
“…all of the great things that Obama has accomplished.”
Well, he’ll never be a “WONE TUM PRESUDENT”…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
1:00 pm
getalife, it appears that if you don’t suffer ODS, you must have “messiah complex”. A way to avoid intelligent commentary and to make it “us v them”. Shameful
Stephenson Billings
January 21st, 2013
1:02 pm
“The only ones using the term “messiah” are the cons.”
Says someone who I guess didn’t see the new Newsweek cover…. ijs….
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
1:03 pm
Well if you are begging for “one of Adam’s cut and paste jobs” you have proven my point. You have seen the list of many accomplishments before, you just cannot comprehend. We can only take you so far. To take the next step often requires engaging your brain and rejecting the rants and the ODS. Again, good luck with that.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:03 pm
Keep,
Shameful is what our cons are all about.
The first President to call on gay rights in a inauguration.
This President is all about making history.
Cutty
January 21st, 2013
1:05 pm
Kyle is such a hater… He won, your guy lost. Get over it.
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
1:05 pm
Let’s make one thing very clear to Kyle and his sycophants. Barrack Obama was elected twice, the first Democrat since FDR to receive twice the majority of votes. The Democrats received the majority of votes in the congressional elections. The President was elected after two campaigns, in which he presented to the people of this country his vision, and the majority has approved it twice by their votes.
td
January 21st, 2013
1:06 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
12:53 pm
“messiah complex” — what a foolish claim. Sorry you are so uninformed about Obama’s accomplishments”
And what would those accomplishments be?
Gas prices: $1:83 when he came into office and now it is $3.26. Fail
Food Prices: We are paying more now then 4 years ago. Fail
Debt: $10 Trillion 4 years ago and now $16.5 trillion. Fail
Spending cuts: Over $1 trillion per year in deficit spending. Fail
Employment: Unemployment rate exactly the same as 4 years ago: Fail
Health care cost: 30 to 50% higher premiums now as to 4 years ago after the passage of Obamacare: Fail
Looks successful to me. NOT
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
1:07 pm
BHO truly is the new GWB.
Elected twice because their competition was so farcical.
Better luck in 2024, cons…
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:08 pm
td,
You lost.
Time to get over it.
Your lies failed but you did manage to cheat to win the house according to Morning Joe.
Congrats liar and cheater.
Stephenson Billings
January 21st, 2013
1:08 pm
td @ 1:06:
But he closed Gitmo and got us out of Afganistan…. oh, wait…..
Mike
January 21st, 2013
1:09 pm
Hey Bruno…notice how they can’t answer your question?
It’s all rah rah with these guys. No real substance just lots of bling. And they trip over themselves to defend a man, who if he was a republican, they would be criticizing his every move.
I don’t hate President Obama. Although, I think he has diminished the importance of the office with some his actions. His followers are so desperate to defend him, they can’t see that he is all talk and no substance. But again, simple minds are attracted to the shiny objects.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
1:09 pm
Gas prices? How absurd. The President does not set gas prices. And have you looked at the 11 year trend. http://www.atlantagasprices.com/Retail_Price_Chart.aspx I would be ashamed to have make a silly claim in a post like that.
Stephenson Billings
January 21st, 2013
1:11 pm
“You lost.
Time to get over it.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
1:11 pm
Looks successful to me. NOT
td–According to the Libs here, Obama’s accomplishments are so self-evident that to even ask to hear about some of them constitutes lack of “intelligent commentary”. I’m waiting for one of them to trot out ObamaCare, his signature initiative, as an “accomplishment”.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
1:11 pm
I help the libs out. One of obozo’s “accomplishments,” coming in Year Zero of his first term, was the Lily Ledbetter Act. Uh, Houston, I believe we have a problem -
It is now our generation’s task to carry on what those pioneers began. For our journey is not complete until our wives, our mothers, and daughters can earn a living equal to their efforts.
Looks like “Lily” crashed and burned. Another total failure of obozo policy.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:12 pm
mike,
You have ODS but in denial.
Lets face it, you cons are being marginalized as kooks.
Keep up the great work cons.
Road Scholar
January 21st, 2013
1:12 pm
One great accomplishment:
He pi$$ed you cons off raising your blood pressure and showing the world your inability to problem solve andenhanced whining ability! You show no respect, whether for the man or office.
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
1:13 pm
Such a great day.
For the Mitt Romney wing of the Republican Party…
Road Scholar
January 21st, 2013
1:13 pm
One great accomplishment:
He pi$$ed you cons off raising your blood pressure and showing the world your inability to problem solve and enhanced whining ability! You show no respect, whether for the man or office.
td
January 21st, 2013
1:13 pm
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
1:05 pm
” The Democrats received the majority of votes in the congressional elections. The President was elected after two campaigns, in which he presented to the people of this country his vision, and the majority has approved it twice by their votes.”
Of coarse they did because Dems received the most votes. This means that Dems had better turnout in their Congressional district then Republicans had in their districts. Obama’s approval rating is the third lowest since WW2, only Ford and Carter has a lower approval rating. Yes, GWB was thought to have done a better job then Obama during his first term. Obama won because (and I will give Dems credit for this one) had a great ground game. They used motor voter to its fullest extent possible by data mining of their voters and then browbeating them to actually vote and making sure they got them to the polls with rides or whatever it took.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
1:15 pm
Barrack Obama was elected twice, the first Democrat since FDR to receive twice the majority of votes.
Very apt comparison, MarkV, given the fact that both are responsible for extending the poor economic times they inherited via ineffective government intervention which did little other than rack up crushing debt.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
1:16 pm
It is now our generation’s task to carry on what those pioneers began. Our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law…
I could be wrong but I’m having serious doubts that Washington crossed the Delaware so that the sodomites could be unleashed upon your children’s classrooms, but then again, I consider our founders to be dignified and decent people. Unlike little obozo does.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:16 pm
Bruno,
He still passed ObamaCare.
Road Scholar
January 21st, 2013
1:17 pm
Kyle: Was McConnell there? Did not see him on tv.
captguitarman
January 21st, 2013
1:18 pm
Bruno. They will never acknowledge the race card because it is and indispensable tool for them when logic and reason begin to prevail in a discussion, debate, argument. It is an intellectually lazy ploy for the bigoted, prejudiced, and intellectually lazy, and they use it because it works. Oh, you’re for “cutting” entitlements? . . . you must be a racist. It is just about that simple – no fuss, no muss, no evidence or logical or reasonable or credible support required. It is a slur eagerly and knowingly used even if void of any truth, because it succeeds by putting logic and reason immediately on the defensive. You need to get ready for four more years of it.
As to the speech. I know this falls on deaf ears, but the Pub/Cons do not want to eliminate Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. They want to restructure them so that they will be available for future generations instead of just the bills. Nothing proposed by the Pub/Cons would affect any one over the age of 55.
Unlike the Prez and his supporters, the Pub/Cons know that the central government, nanny state, welfare state cannot be grown exponentially without being paid for, or it will ultimately lead to economic disaster. And the deficits have become so large, so incomprehensible to most Americans (which helps the Dem/Libs in promoting them), that confiscating the wealth of all of the “rich” to pay for them would be like spitting in the ocean. There are just no enough of them.
No. The Middle Class is where the real money is (as far as getting meaningful tax increases – the fiscal cliff tax increase was a joke that can only run the nation for 8 days per year), and sooner or later, the Middle Class will have to be tapped to pay the bills or hold off economic collapse. This is the ugly secret of the Obama presidency, and one day history will judge. The welfare state cannot be grown exponentially and indefinitely for free. One day, the chickens will come home to roost. Economics 101.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:19 pm
The turtle could not handle being there but your Speaker is there.
indigo
January 21st, 2013
1:19 pm
Barry – 12:13
Considering the huge interest payments we’re making on George’s two credit card wars and big tax breaks for the rich, I’d color them Bush blue.
td
January 21st, 2013
1:20 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
1:09 pm
Gas prices? How absurd. The President does not set gas prices. And have you looked at the 11 year trend. http://www.atlantagasprices.com/Retail_Price_Chart.aspx I would be ashamed to have make a silly claim in a post like that.
Is that all you got? Obama controls drilling on national land so go ahead and tell us how that would not have effected gas prices. You can fool yourself if you wish to but everyone knows the truth.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
1:20 pm
He pi$$ed you cons off raising your blood pressure and showing the world your inability to problem solve andenhanced whining ability! You show no respect, whether for the man or office.
Though it may be difficult for someone of your emotional level to comprehend, many of us are sincerely concerned about the financial direction our country is heading in. All you and your cohorts in Washington care about is winning some meaningless PR war. You Libs need to grow up.
clark kent
January 21st, 2013
1:22 pm
There’s a war on for control of your mind.
And you liberals are losing.
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
1:22 pm
td @ 1:13 pm
Your “excuses” for the election victory of Democrats are quite laughable. Next you will want to replace elections with opinion polls.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:22 pm
bruno,
Perhaps you should listen to our President because deficit reduction is part of his agenda.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:25 pm
Or read his speech Kyle provided you.
Get informed before you sound like a uninformed fool.
yuzeyurbrane
January 21st, 2013
1:25 pm
I didn’t think Jay was allowed to post on Kyle’s blog?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
1:29 pm
How about 8 million cons staying home because the northeastern rich elite flip flopping moderate big government governor of taxachussets didn’t represent them?
How many votes less did obozo get from 2008, 4 million?
Not a mandate by any stretch of the imagination.
td
January 21st, 2013
1:30 pm
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
1:22 pm
td @ 1:13 pm
Your “excuses” for the election victory of Democrats are quite laughable. Next you will want to replace elections with opinion polls.
Nope, the Republicans are about to kill the effects of the motor voter law that allows Dems to bus millions to the polls that otherwise would not show up by allotting Elcetorial college votes by Congressional districts in key swing states in the midwest.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
1:30 pm
Perhaps you should listen to our President because deficit reduction is part of his agenda.
get–It’s this simple: At no time in our country’s history have federal revenues been anywhere close to what we’re spending now. Our biggest revenue year ever was in 2008 when we collected a little more than $2.5 T. Raising taxes on the “rich”, which is Obama’s “plan”, isn’t going to get us anywhere close to closing the deficits unless spending is cut drastically.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
1:31 pm
bookman is just in search of some intelligent conversation away from the psychobabble at his place.
Bullet County
January 21st, 2013
1:32 pm
Kyle, I’m sure the economy will improve as soon as Newton Leroy and M. Bachmann finish paying off their campaign debts.
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
1:33 pm
“…to trot out ObamaCare, his signature initiative, as an “accomplishment”.
Well, wouldn’t be polite to take the spotlight from President Romney…
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:34 pm
Bruno.
Which part of it will be addressed do you not understand?
Your speaker cut and ran from a 4 trillion dollar cut for something he passed.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
1:36 pm
by allotting Elcetorial college votes by Congressional districts in key swing states in the midwest
You know, td, for all of the belly-aching that the Dems do about the Electoral College, you would think that they would embrace proportional allotment rather than a winner-take-all approach.
Th whole purpose of the Electoral College is to prevent a few mega-population centers from deciding every election. Urban interests and rural interests are usually very different. If we went with a straight poplar vote, then rural interests would never be represented.
Mike
January 21st, 2013
1:36 pm
Get,
I do not consider myself a “con” or a “kook”. As a matter of fact, I have voted for democrats in several elections and still do today. Twice I voted for Bill Clinton and once for Jimmy Carter. (I was young and he was from Ga.).
What I don’t like about President Obama is he seems to be a grinning, backslapping, well oiled, politically manufactured being, who really has no idea what he is doing. He is getting by with a lot of props and help behind the scenes but I am not at ease or comfortable with all the vagueness that surrounds a man like this.
He seems to spend a lot of time trying to keep stirred up this “class warfare” thing while telling us he is bringing us together. This type behaviour is usually that of a manipulative person. A trouble maker, if you will.
Other than that, I’m sure he is a great guy!
Peace Bro, I’m out.
jconservative
January 21st, 2013
1:36 pm
The president of a company for which I once worked asked me what I thought of his annual meeting speech. Graciously as I could, I told him “not much”. He, just as graciously, told me to become president of the company and I could give my “much improved speech”.
Pizzaman
January 21st, 2013
1:37 pm
I sure hope Hillary runs in ‘16. Neal Boortz will un-retire the day she announces!
Road Scholar
January 21st, 2013
1:37 pm
Bruno:”..many of us are sincerely concerned about the financial direction our country is heading in. ”
So when are you going to start acting like adults and stop the insults, provide positive comments on solutions, or even run for political office? As Bush said: “It’s haaaarrrrrddddddd! Yes it is and engaging in insults and mean criticisms on a blog are sooooooo constructive, isn’t it?
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
1:37 pm
“I didn’t think Jay was allowed to post on Kyle’s blog?”
Feeling threatened?
Thank goodness this isn’t Florida…
CC
January 21st, 2013
1:39 pm
“This President is all about making history.”
I can certainly agree with that! Hitler, Mussolini, Marx, Stalin and Mao made history, too.\
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
1:39 pm
Well, wouldn’t be polite to take the spotlight from President Romney…
Hey, a bad idea is a bad idea is a bad idea, whatever it’s source.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:39 pm
Mike,
“who really has no idea what he is doing.”
ObamaCare, saved our economy and car industry, ended both failed occupations, won in Libya with zero us casualties, etc….
Proves you dead wrong.
Pizzaman
January 21st, 2013
1:39 pm
Shock of all shocks! None of the Obama bashers have claimed there was a Koran inside the Bible covers. Yet!!!!!
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
1:39 pm
” …President Obama is he seems to be a grinning, backslapping, well oiled, politically manufactured being…
If only…
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
1:41 pm
td @ 1:30 pm
The Republicans already took their shot to restrict access to voting. It did not help them enough, and it will not help them in the future.
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
1:43 pm
This President is all about making history.”
I can certainly agree with that! Hitler, Mussolini, Marx, Stalin and Mao made history, too.
THIS is the degree of depravity and senselessness that exists in the fanatical Republican.
md
January 21st, 2013
1:45 pm
“Perhaps you should listen to our President because deficit reduction is part of his agenda.”
Talk is cheap. He’s had several opportunities to cut the deficit including the recent fiscal cliff negotiations.
Did he? Nope, but he seems to have you (and many others) fooled, so his tactics must be working. Tell you what you want to hear and you’ll keep defending him. He knows how to play the game and the suckers are eating it up.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:45 pm
Look, I know you watch all the critics and negativity on rw media and focus on that but you can’t ignore the good things our President has done.
No scandals, no endless witch hunt hearing from the rw, no collapses, no new occupations, etc….
Peace and prosperity are coming.
This President is competent and setting a great example for future Presidents.
Kyle Wingfield
January 21st, 2013
1:45 pm
yuze, et al.: Jay posted on here by accident and asked me to take down his comments, as I’ve done. No harm, no foul.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:47 pm
md,
Did your speaker cut and run over the 4 trillion cut?
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
1:47 pm
No harm, no foul
I found the experience to be rather traumatizing.
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
1:47 pm
“THIS is the degree of depravity and senselessness that exists in the fanatical Republican.”
The current use of “Cliff” analogy does seem more and more appropriate…
marm
January 21st, 2013
1:48 pm
Just goes to show how uninformed people are. The President has absolutely no control over the price of oil. The price is set by OPEC and driven up by the commodities market. If you have doubts, check what the price does every time there’s unrest in the middle east. Canada is one of our major suppliers, and look at how much they pay.
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
1:49 pm
And I would certainly be remiss if I didn’t wish a farewell to one of the Lunatic Fringe’s Most Revered Oracles – Sir Kneel Boortz.
Hopefully Herman “I was too young to be involved in the Civil Rights movement” Cain will carry that lunatic banner high!
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:50 pm
Looks like your house will vote for raising the debt limit.
Where did that “leverage” go cons?
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
1:51 pm
“…other than its brevity at just 19 minutes, which was the only truly surprising thing about the speech…”
Uh, Bill Clinton was unavailable. Accept your small triumphs…
Mike
January 21st, 2013
1:52 pm
Jay can’t be comin up in here and throwin down like that. Kyle has to protect his “turf”.
Way to go Kyle!
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:52 pm
Actually, gas was cheap because bush collapsed the global economy and demand was low.
Now, demand is high but oil will eventually run out.
Then what cons?
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
1:53 pm
B, maybe he was just punking those here who have been permanently banned from his place like Aesop, tibs and Lil BB!
J/k, and no harm no foul!
Mike
January 21st, 2013
1:53 pm
Drill Baby Drill….That’s what dude.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:53 pm
I don’t see anything wrong with Jay posting here or Kyle posting at Jay’s.
Freedom.
Kyle Wingfield
January 21st, 2013
1:55 pm
Folks, posting on the wrong blog is an easy mistake to make in our system. Let’s get back to the topic at hand — and ICYMI, I’ve revised the OP completely.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:55 pm
mike,
We are drilling more than ever.
So what happens when it runs out?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
1:56 pm
obozocare reduces health services and has driven untold number of businesses to close their doors, our embassy in Libya was burnt to the ground and al qaeda dragged the ambassador’s body through the streets, the Government Motors bailout cost the taxpayers 26 billion dollars or more and the libs parade this around as their successes?
Is it any wonder we still exist with “accomplishments” like these?
Becky
January 21st, 2013
1:58 pm
Kyle-I can’ t believe you consider yourself and your opinions worthy to post on our President’s speech. weren’t you the azzhat that voted for Newt??? The speech was very powerful and should be the first step for coming together for the republicans that just can’t get over losing and OMG there is a black man in office,
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
1:59 pm
B, maybe he was just punking those here who have been permanently banned from his place like Aesop, tibs and Lil BB!
I thought personal attacks weren’t allowed?
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
1:59 pm
Gotta say, felt like I was missing all the fun when I was out of the country Nov 6.
But you cons are definitely making up for that today…
getalife
January 21st, 2013
2:00 pm
His speech was a call for unity to solve problems.
We, the people was the theme.
td
January 21st, 2013
2:01 pm
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
1:41 pm
td @ 1:30 pm
The Republicans already took their shot to restrict access to voting. It did not help them enough, and it will not help them in the future.
Voter id restricts access? I thought you were smarter then to make such a totally ridiculous statement.
md
January 21st, 2013
2:03 pm
” The President has absolutely no control over the price of oil.”
False.
A President has control over public land drilling/output. The market runs on supply and demand. To say that restricting supply does not have an effect is bogus………..
JF McNamara
January 21st, 2013
2:03 pm
This article was just dumb. It’s a speech not policy. He is clearly playing up the 1% mythology and the growing divide between the wealthy and the poor. To insinuate he is a some raging liberal after four years of actual governance because of a speech is dumb.
Mike
January 21st, 2013
2:03 pm
Get,
“Obamacare”…really? Wait two years and get back to us on this.
My health insurance rep has told all of us at my office that it will raise our premiums by 20% in 2014 and could be more in 2015. 20%? I thought President Obama said it was going to lower costs. It’s not. Everyone in the insurance field has said it will not. That is what I mean about him. He just makes stuff up and then hopes we forget about it later. ie gitmo etc….
I would have much rather seen a “single payer” system than what this monstrocity will become.
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
2:05 pm
The answer is there is too much power and too much wealth in too few hands and the few control our government and the few create the problems and the injustices for the many and have less and less interest in doing anything about it because they can get away with it. ~Ralph Nader 1996
Be sure to shoot the messenger and leave the message alone.
md
January 21st, 2013
2:05 pm
Not to mention the ability to release the Nations oil reserves, which also has an effect on supply.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
2:07 pm
” I thought President Obama said it was going to lower costs. It’s not.”
Just another con liar.
It is lowering costs .
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
2:08 pm
But it does not portend any more of a spirit of cooperation during the next two years than we’ve seen during the past four.
One of the main reasons I was hoping that Romney would win in November is due to his track record of reaching across the aisle to get things done. Apparently Obama was used to having his way coming out of Illinois.
weren’t you the azzhat that voted for Newt??? The speech was very powerful and should be the first step for coming together for the republicans that just can’t get over losing and OMG there is a black man in office,
Only someone of Becky’s stature could put “azzhat”, “can’t get over losing”, “OMG there is a black man in office” and “the first step for coming together”. I’d love to hear her opinion about Clarence Thomas or Herman Cain one of these days.
mbtc
January 21st, 2013
2:08 pm
Wonder what WE might have accomplished these past four years if the republicans hadn’t worked every minute of every day to obstruct and sabotage any potential success. Way to show your patriotism. Petulant, petty, gonna-take-my-ball-and-go-home republicans. SICK,
getalife
January 21st, 2013
2:09 pm
“I would have much rather seen a “single payer” system than what this monstrocity will become.”
If it fails to lower costs, that is the next step.
He got the industry to figure it out because public option ends their jobs.
td
January 21st, 2013
2:09 pm
“For we, the people, understand that our country cannot succeed when a shrinking few do very well and a growing many barely make it.”
Mr President, Can you please tell us who these “growing many” are? Can you tell us the choices they made for themselves that placed them into this situation? What types of education do they have? What skill sets do they posses that is marketable in our economy? Are they having children they can not afford? Are these “growing many” in single parent or two parents households? Do these “growing many” have drug problems?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 21st, 2013
2:12 pm
By “the few” all you have to do is look at how bankers from HSBC were dealt with after they were caught financially aiding Mexican drug cartels, laundering terrorist money, etc. They were let off with a fine that would take them a few months to earn back.
If “the many” had done anything like that what would we be facing?
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
2:12 pm
The final straw (out of many straws) for Mitt was when he actually blamed the Americans overseas for sympathizing with their murderers.
Talk about opening wide and inserting both feet!
The man was wholly unfit to lead and thankfully he never got remotely close to having a chance…
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
2:12 pm
Kyle has replaced the original direct lie about Obama blaming the rich, with an indirect one. Nowhere in his speech is any accusation of anybody or anything being “the root of our problems.” That exists only in Kyle’s partisan imagination, and his distortions of Obama’s words are reprehensible.
Let’s take the first of his quotes: “The patriots of 1776 did not fight to replace the tyranny of a king with the privileges of a few …”
See how Kyle cut off the last part of the quote: “The patriots of 1776 did not fight to replace the tyranny of a king with the privileges of a few or the rule of a mob.”
This kind of twisting of the words is the essence of Kyle’s abominable article.
Mike
January 21st, 2013
2:13 pm
Get,
I am telling you what our rep from United Healthcare told us.
td
January 21st, 2013
2:13 pm
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
2:05 pm
The answer is there is too much power and too much wealth in too few hands and the few control our government and the few create the problems and the injustices for the many and have less and less interest in doing anything about it because they can get away with it. ~Ralph Nader 1996
Be sure to shoot the messenger and leave the message alone.
Thanks for reminding us how out of touch with reality you really are by voting for this idiot.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 21st, 2013
2:14 pm
” It’s a speech not policy.”
Really, JF?
So he’s just throwing out mindless words that will have no bearing on any proposal he makes in the next 4 years?
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
2:14 pm
Yeah for the sociopath td!
He did exactly what I told him to do!
Good boy…
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 21st, 2013
2:15 pm
Both the message AND the messenger are ridiculous, AmVet.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 21st, 2013
2:16 pm
By the time Obama is done, Obamacare will be the least of your worries Cons!
guns
immigration
tax reform??
etc
etc
mwuahahahahahaha
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
2:18 pm
td @ 2:01 pm
House Majority Leader Mike Turzai : “Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.”
getalife
January 21st, 2013
2:18 pm
“I am telling you what our rep from United Healthcare told us.”
I hope his name was not tulsa doom.
He is a con that is intellectually dishonest.
If it fails, you will get Canada’s health care.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 21st, 2013
2:19 pm
“See how Kyle cut off the last part of the quote: “The patriots of 1776 did not fight to replace the tyranny of a king with the privileges of a few or the rule of a mob.”
This kind of twisting of the words is the essence of Kyle’s abominable article.”
Nice try, MarkV, but the quote stands on it’s own regardless of whether it is chopped off.
mbtc
January 21st, 2013
2:21 pm
Kyle:”Who are these unreasonable people who hold these radical beliefs?
Figments of Obama’s imagination — that’s who”
How did I miss the last, serendipitous, four years when the sheep lay down with the lambs and the republicans worked hand in hand with the president to promote the “general welfare”. Your hypocritical whining is hilarious.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
2:21 pm
Kyle has replaced the original direct lie about Obama blaming the rich, with an indirect one. Nowhere in his speech is any accusation of anybody or anything being “the root of our problems.”
Mark–Any objective reading of Obama’s speech reveals the repeated contrast between “the few” and the rest of us, as Kyle has done a credible job in documenting above. In case you forgot, that has been the theme of his entire Presidency along with both campaigns. Which is why I, along with other conservatives, choke when Obama goes off on one of his “togetherness” rants. Claiming that Kyle deliberately truncated a single sentence for the purpose of distorting Obama’s core message only makes you look silly.
Del
January 21st, 2013
2:24 pm
Barack Obama is and always has been through his youth and into his middle age a radical disciple of the hard left. No one should be surprised that his ideology and narcissism, which causes him to fully believe that he’s worshiped by a great majority of this country will make him the most divisive and contentious president in this nations history.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
2:25 pm
If our President can get our congress to actually focus on all the American people instead of just the wealthy few donors, he has changed the game and leveled the playing field.
This gives your kids a better chance to make it and move out of your houses.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
2:26 pm
Indigo: Considering the huge interest payments we’re making on George’s two credit card wars…
———–
And yet, Obozo is increasing the debt at TWICE the rate of Our President Bush.
Junior Samples
January 21st, 2013
2:26 pm
Hey Kyle,
While you’re over-analyzing the inaugural address, I hear if you play it backwards you can hear a voice saying “Paul is dead”
mbtc
January 21st, 2013
2:28 pm
@ Del @ 2:24: Whatever, DA.
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
2:29 pm
…radical disciple of the hard left.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
2:31 pm
So, I guess musicians making political statements is cool until they start criticizing Obama:
http://news.yahoo.com/fiasco-creates-pre-inaugural-uproar-145330260–abc-news-politics.html
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
2:34 pm
We will respond to the threat of climate change, knowing that the failure to do so would betray our children and future generations.
It happens every time without fail, when some modern day Mayan human sacrificier brings up global warming, the Lord buries them in ice and snow -
In Minneapolis, Monday will likely be the first day with a subzero high temperature in just over four years; the last one was Jan. 15, 2009. The city, notorious for its frigid winters, has never recorded such a long spell without a subzero high in 141 years of record keeping.
Subzero cold is possible Tuesday morning in both Chicago and Milwaukee. Typically, this occurs with the assistance of snow cover, both reflecting the sun’s energy during the day, and refrigerating the air mass. Dating to 1871, only 2% of all days with subzero lows in Milwaukee occurred without snow on the ground. Tuesday morning may be one of those rare occurrences.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 21st, 2013
2:35 pm
I only wish he used the same energy to make the government he leads smaller as he did with his speech.
Of course, maybe he’s just getting as tired as we are of listening to him.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 21st, 2013
2:40 pm
cool:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/21/obamas-inaugural-address_n_2521277.html
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
2:40 pm
If our President can get our congress to actually focus on all the American people instead of just the wealthy few donors, he has changed the game and leveled the playing field.
————
The US economy has been leveled, all right. Washington DC and its suburbs are doing just fine though, thanks to Obozo’s “wealthy few” government cronies feeding off the taxes paid by Real Americans.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
2:43 pm
From what I’m hearing about obozo cutting the speech short was that his lovely wife, Idi Amin, was kicking him in the shin because she got a whiff of the lavish lunch menu -
The first course is lobster tails in a New England clam chowder sauce. The second course is bison with a red potato horseradish cake. The dessert is apple pie with sour cream ice cream.
Probably didn’t cost the “few” very much.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
2:44 pm
I only wish he used the same energy to make the government he leads smaller as he did with his speech.
Right about now, I would have expected a President Romney to wrap up the parties and get working on his first day in office. I would have expected him to focus almost exclusively on the financial health of our country, realizing that almost everything else is secondary right now. Instead, after Obama finishes partying in a day or two, he’ll get back to work dreaming up new ways to spend money.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 21st, 2013
2:45 pm
I figured you Cons would have trouble with this part of the speech:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 21st, 2013
2:47 pm
“I figured you Cons would have trouble with this part of the speech:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal”
Why?
We’re the ones who actually believe it.
Rush
January 21st, 2013
2:50 pm
Moochelle was ready to eat that 3000 calorie meal….little Johnny at the local public school gets a 600 calorie meal. Looks like the few “finally got a piece of the pie”.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
2:50 pm
If all men are created equal, why do half contribute nothing to the financing of their government?
Rush
January 21st, 2013
2:52 pm
Finn back from studying for those exams? All men are created equal? You mean I get extra points on my law school admission if I come from a chosen racial group? What if I don’t fit in one of those racial groups? Would that be equal for me?
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
2:52 pm
Are the food vendors at the inaugural accepting EBT cards?
Cliff
January 21st, 2013
2:53 pm
Obama accomplishments:
Ended the war in Iraq
Killed Osama bin Laden
Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
Ended the great recession
Created 3.766 million new jobs in four years (I’m dubious any president “creates” jobs, but that is how many were created during his term – Bush lost 1.8 million in 8 years and made a big hole for Obama to dig us out of)
No foreign terrorist attacks on US soil
Stimulus package
Largest tax cut in American history, passed with bipartisan support.
Permanently tied AMT to inflation
JDW
January 21st, 2013
2:54 pm
@Kyle… Color me
Today’s “Conservatives” didn’t like Obama’s speech…this part in particular ws for them.
We, the people, still believe that our obligations as Americans are not just to ourselves, but to all posterity.
Pssssttt…LBB, Tiberius et al…that means you.
Kyle Wingfield
January 21st, 2013
2:56 pm
Yes, Obama’s speech was a very liberal one. But as Levar Burton would have said back in the day, don’t take my word for it:
“Obama Inauguration 2013: Return of the liberal,” Glenn Thrush, Politico
“Unapologetically liberal inauguration speech by Obama,” Ewen MacAskill, the Guardian (U.K.)
“This is a surprisingly liberal speech,” Chris Hayes, MSNBC
“Obama embraces progressive agenda in second inaugural address,” Liz Goodwin, Yahoo! News
A “robust defense of liberalism,” Chuck Todd, NBC News
“The president liberals were waiting for is (finally) here,” Chris Cillizza, Washington Post
I could go on, but you get the picture. None of these writers or news outlets are exactly considered arch-conservatives.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 21st, 2013
2:58 pm
“Unapologetically liberal inauguration speech by Obama,”
We libs were due. Today is payday.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 21st, 2013
3:01 pm
Distill Obama’s speech to a single sentence and that sentence is: “I’m the president, deal with it.
Can you feel the smackdown?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 21st, 2013
3:03 pm
“Ended the war in Iraq”
By simply following the policy of his predecessor.
“Killed Osama bin Laden”
By simply following the policy of his predecessor.
“Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act”
The largest tax increase on low and middle-class Americans when the mandate kicks in, because even the Supreme Court knows that a tax is, even if he doesn’t. And it will eventually drive employers to end benefits for millions of low and middle-class employees to fend for themselves.
“Ended the great recession”
With the most anemic recovery from an economic disaster this nation has ever seen.
“Created 3.766 million new jobs in four years (I’m dubious any president “creates” jobs, but that is how many were created during his term – Bush lost 1.8 million in 8 years and made a big hole for Obama to dig us out of)”
Presidents don’t create jobs. And even if they did, deficit spending to create jobs is simply robbing Peter to pay Paul – never a good strategy.
“No foreign terrorist attacks on US soil”
No, he just got his ambassador to Libya and three other killed.
“Stimulus package”
Buying off the unions in exchange for their votes.
“Largest tax cut in American history, passed with bipartisan support.”
Which was then reversed at the very end of his first term.
“Permanently tied AMT to inflation”
So?
Rush
January 21st, 2013
3:05 pm
Wow….Obummer killed bin Laden!!!Did he do it with his bare hands? You forgot to mention his Nobel Prize!!!LOL
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 21st, 2013
3:05 pm
“We, the people, still believe that our obligations as Americans are not just to ourselves, but to all posterity. ”
Words pale in comparison to deeds, JDW.
One cannot utter those words as being believable when one runs up the debt to insolvency proportions with no plan to bring it back down.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
3:06 pm
Yes, the gop took the easy, lazy way to govern for the wealthy only.
That ideology failed badly for the rest of the American people.
It is we, the people not we, the wealthy donors.
Governing for ALL the American people is a hard way to govern and a change that is great for our country.
BTW, when are you cons going to fix your failed party?
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
3:07 pm
Cliff, about half of your post is easily-smacked-down lies.
Numbers-R-US
January 21st, 2013
3:08 pm
If President Obama gives the Republicans a taste, no, a heaping helping, of their own medicine for the next four years, he’ll make me extremely happy. The Republicans I hear whining and see with blood vessels bulging, the more I am convinced President Obama is doing good.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
3:12 pm
JDW: We, the people, still believe that our obligations as Americans are not just to ourselves, but to all posterity.
——
Tell us how Obozo’s parasite base, living off the tax paying segment of society, fulfills that obligation.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
3:13 pm
We should never balance our budget again unless there is a law to stop the gop from blowing out our deficit again if they ever win again.
We will work on deficit reduction.
It is part of his agenda.
Numbers-R-US
January 21st, 2013
3:17 pm
The Republicans are really dreading their next tax bill. I hear the extra 2% withholding is going to put a serious damper in their cigarette and lottery ticket purchases. They hardly have enough left over for their weekly allottment of .223 rounds as it is.
Old timer
January 21st, 2013
3:17 pm
Kyle, good points on the speech. This is so typical.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
3:18 pm
FIRST TERM: Obama Increased Debt $50,521 Per Household; More Than First 42 Presidents — Combined!
Success!
Can I get a duh?
Numbers-R-US
January 21st, 2013
3:22 pm
If the Republicans don’t like their $50,000 debt, they’re free to mail in a check any time. No one’s stopping you.
JSH
January 21st, 2013
3:23 pm
Well since the election, I have not watch TV new of any sorts, do not read any newspaper articles about Obama, certainly didn’t watch today nor will I tonight. I have, bought more guns, got a carrying license, and have joined the NRA.
Numbers-R-US
January 21st, 2013
3:25 pm
I heard Wal-Mart had to put up signs telling their customers that they are not allowed to use their EBT cards to purchase AR-15’s.
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
3:27 pm
One more time: Whether Obama’s policies and speech should be called liberal or not is not important; what is important is that his are the policies the majority of people of this country have expressed their support of by electing him twice.
Numbers-R-US
January 21st, 2013
3:29 pm
If Mitt had not alienated his 47% of the voters with that hidden camera recording, who knows what he could have accomplished especially once he put in window cranks on Air Force One and got all that fresh air in there to breath.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
3:31 pm
cantor just shot down the corporate media “liberal” theme and said we do need to come together to help the other Americans not just the wealthy.
That is a shift in ideology from the gop if they actually do it.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 21st, 2013
3:31 pm
In 10 years you Cons will be buying your ammo at the Wal-Mart over on Obama Drive or the gun shop over on Obama Boulevard.
And sending your kids to “Obama Elementary” and catching plays at the “Obama Center for Performing arts”
From Buzzfeed:
Andrew Sullivan, made that case last fall: “If Obama wins, to put it bluntly, he will become the Democrats’ Reagan. The narrative writes itself. He will emerge as an iconic figure who struggled through a recession and a terrorized world, reshaping the economy within it, passing universal health care, strafing the ranks of al -Qaeda, presiding over a civil-rights revolution, and then enjoying the fruits of the recovery.”
Sullivan predicts, “Reagan status (maybe minus the airport-naming).” Actually, Midway, named for the Pacific battle, is pretty much waiting for a presidential name to be attached.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 21st, 2013
3:33 pm
“what is important is that his are the policies the majority of people of this country have expressed their support of by electing him twice.”
Nice try, but epic failure, MarkV.
I supported SOME of Romney’s policies, but not ALL of them. I support SOME of President Incompetent’s policies, but not ALL of them.
You keep up with this “We got elected” thing as if a majority of people who voted for him had the greater good in mind when they did so, rather than not-so-enlightened self-interest. I will remind you again that we are NOT a democracy, and therefore the “majority” cannot rule over the individual. Any recipe uses many ingredients, and not all of them are good for you depending on the quantity and type used.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
3:39 pm
You will have to move left out of rw radical extremist territory and it looks like that is what your party will do.
He spent his first term cleaning up the bush disaster.
He will spend the next four years still working on the deficit the gop exploded and his agenda he campaigned on.
Mike
January 21st, 2013
3:42 pm
Stalin called them “useful idiots”. Obama, to his credit, has made full use of them.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
3:43 pm
Most of the weapons used by al Qaeda-linked militants to storm a gas facility in southeastern Algeria came from Libya, the Daily Telegraph has learned.
Success!
Can I get a duh?
getalife
January 21st, 2013
3:43 pm
ODS much mike?
Matz
January 21st, 2013
3:45 pm
Haters gon’ hate. Too bad. Some of us believe in the promise of America — those who aren’t obsessed with turning back the clock to a time when crochety old white men (and COWM in training) were the sole voices of authority.
Bless your hearts! (And uh… good luck with that turning back the clock thing. *snerk*)
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
3:45 pm
How could there be any global warming, when the whole world, aka Minneapolis, Chicago and Milwaukee, have such cold temperatures?
md
January 21st, 2013
3:45 pm
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal”
Means we all get to run in the race, it doesn’t mean we all get to win.
Dusty
January 21st, 2013
3:45 pm
Well, folks, I got in just as the president was speaking. I was “inspired” of course. Hope you and Kyle don’t mind my poem that’s kinda long. Anyway, here goes..
THE SECOND TIME
Now comes the CELEBRATION!
Flags, crowds, bands: THE INAUGURATION!
Buildings of marble stand in conglomeration
While crowds shiver in waves of commendation.
(The President speaks!)
Oh yes, he does, wih solemn face and uplifted eyes.
Pronounces our greatness where equality lies.
Then says we’re equal but need better ties.
Deep thought his words do comprise.
(The President lowers his head.)
“We must not forget the fight we fought.
Let not our freedom come to nought.
Whether it’s diversity or energy or what we were taught,
We can do better! Let greatness be sought!”
(The President raises his head.)
The crowd does some clapping. Isn’t it time?
The President warms up. Like MLK he’s so inclined.
HIs arms are raised. His voice Southern climed.
He picks up the vibes. Freedom is “divine”!
(The President looks noble.)
Endings must be great with Lincoln in mind.
The President’s determined to lift us from all grime.
We listen carefully. To the end he climbs.
He’s the “liberty bell” with all its chimes
(The President smiles.)
Now there’s a song and Katy doth bellow.
Then comes the poet, a big eared fellow
And Beyonce wobbles “America” so mellow
And the Spanish pastor, “Si, sir, may God bless us together.”
(The President bows his head.)
Now the great titled ones all depart
Including Bill and Hillary doinig their part.
The President looks back at all with heart
And goes to sign papers for a legal start.
So the snow melts and the light doth shine.
The air is filled with thoughts so fine.
But some are thinking and it nags the mind:
:”It’s GOT to be better this second time.”
(The end.)
getalife
January 21st, 2013
3:48 pm
Time to level the playing field.
Love it or leave it.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
3:49 pm
Record cold temperatures in a world that is supposed to be warming.
Can I get a duh?
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
3:51 pm
Real life stories from the obozoeconomy -
JUNEAU, Wis. (AP) – Two dancers at an exotic club in Juneau have been cited after they allegedly brawled over a dollar bill.
I’d a paid a dollar to see that.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
3:53 pm
Yes, it is warmer than the last inauguration.
Mike
January 21st, 2013
3:55 pm
Get,
Help me. “ODS” in my world means open domain server. What does it mean in your kind and gentle hearted liberal world? I’m sure it’s something really nice. Cause you guys are so kind.
Stevie Ray...Clowns to my Left and Jokers to my Right here I am....
January 21st, 2013
3:55 pm
So I understand that the measurement of when we should really worry about the debt and resulting debt expense is when debt to GDP gets to 90%..we better hope GDP goes up materially cause without a plan to reduce borrowing, we will be there in 4 years..
What’s the plan?
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
3:56 pm
Haters gon’ hate.
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And the poorly educated and lazy are going to continue to vote Democrat.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
3:58 pm
mike,
It is a mental defect called “Obama Derangement Syndrome” usually related to the other mental defect called conservatism.
Stevie Ray...Clowns to my Left and Jokers to my Right here I am....
January 21st, 2013
4:01 pm
Typical BO blather today…he didn’t seem to say anything new and same promises from 2008 that went by the wayside appear again…albeit in a different forum.
He has no plan. Congress has no plan. Ergo we have no plan. Ergo, the trends have no reason to not continue. It would be great if BO and congress had the stones/courage to do what needs to be done. Our greatest security risk is our balance sheet. Meanwhile, we drone away at innocents and keep our noses under the tents of others for reasons not in our interests.
I like the quote I heard today…was Obama’s speech really titled “I have a drone”?
getalife
January 21st, 2013
4:03 pm
mike,
stevie is a prime example of ods.
Mike
January 21st, 2013
4:08 pm
Get,
Thanks…I see it now. Peace my friend, I gotta go run a couple miles before it gets dark. I live up in the hills and the sun disappears early up here.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
4:16 pm
Who was that feasting on lobster tail and bison at the inaugural lunch…the “privileged few” or the many?
indigo
January 21st, 2013
4:17 pm
Kyle – 2:56
Just out of curiosity, did you expect Obama to give a conservative speech?
Hillbilly D
January 21st, 2013
4:21 pm
The headline on the AJC home page says “OBAMA SWORN-IN AS 44th U.S. PRESIDENT”.
Wasn’t he already the 44th President?
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
4:28 pm
Dusty,
Thank you for the poem. I appreciate it much more than the leading article of this blog, in which his author, unlike even the congressional opponents of President Obama today, could not find the decency to say anything else than attacks on the President’s speech.
(I do not mention the comments of those of similar persuasion on this blog, from whom decency is something I never expect.)
md
January 21st, 2013
4:30 pm
“We, the people, still believe that our obligations as Americans are not just to ourselves, but to all posterity. ”
Comical considering it is that posterity that will be paying for the continued spending that we don’t have.
md
January 21st, 2013
4:32 pm
“Time to level the playing field.”
Oh Joy, we all get trophies for coming in last………..
JDW
January 21st, 2013
4:36 pm
@Kyle…”But as Levar Burton would have said back in the day, don’t take my word for it:”
What he said would have made no difference at all…today’s “Conservatives” would have hated it anyway. He has spent 4 years as a Centrist and ending up with mostly Center Right solutions and they still hated it. In fact they can’t even admit that most everything he has done would have been considered “Mainstream Republican” ten years ago.
I think Colin Powell has it about right…
“while the GOP has headed to the right, the nation has moved to the middle with changing demographics.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/colin-powell-republicans-voter-id-86488.html#ixzz2IeG0hqcb
I for one am glad the President has chosen to embrace that change.
Cliff
January 21st, 2013
4:38 pm
Tiberius-
I’m confused, did Bush order a navy seal attack in Pakistan on Osama Bin Laden? Obama did, and no one else could have. Bush only used drones in Pakistan, and never would have approved such a controversial and risky plan.
Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act – No more denials of insurance for pre-existing conditions. No more lifetime maximums. Mandatory insurance creates a mechanism to pay for the medical care of people we are already paying for. When someone goes to the ER and is treated and never pays, who do you think pays for that? Wouldn’t you rather have a system where insurance is required, so that you don’t have to pay for everyone else’s medical care when they don’t have insurance? Or do you like larger bills from hospitals to cover those that aren’t insured?
As to the ambassador, there are always attacks overseas. Compare to 241 marines dying in the barracks in Beirut, 9/11, WTC bombings, and terrorist attacks that have occurred in every previous administration, his anti-terrorism record is unassailable.
On taxes, the tax cuts of 2001 were set to expire at the end of 2012. The new tax rates in 2013 was the largest tax cut in American history, and most Republicans in Congress voted against it. They voted for the largest tax cut in American history. And they say Democrats want to raise taxes.
The stimulus package created jobs and helped bring us out of the recession. It’s fact that 3.766 million jobs were created during his first term, and the economy continues to improve. Growth was undermined by the Republicans’ playing politics with the debt limit increase and generally trying to tank the economy to win the 2012 presidential election.
Lynnie Gal
January 21st, 2013
4:38 pm
Real classy, cons. On a day reserved for unity and service, you can’t wait to criticize an inspiring speech by our president by asking ridiculous questions about it that any school child can explain to you. Can’t you be an American for just one day?
JDW
January 21st, 2013
4:38 pm
@Tiberius…”One cannot utter those words as being believable when one runs up the debt to insolvency proportions with no plan to bring it back down.”
Agreed…that is why Reagan and Duhbya couldn’t say them with a straight face…however the guy that is busy cleaning up their mess has the right.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
4:41 pm
It is a great day to watch cnn.
The corporate theme to help the gop like Kyle’s “too liberal” thingie failed.
It is a great day to be from the United States of America.
God bless America.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
4:46 pm
President Obama repaved the roads to the White House.
Perfect condition.
We built that road.
He stops to look at all those Americans for the last time.
And now for the parade.
melshop
January 21st, 2013
4:50 pm
Facts: There were 10 significant terrorism attacks on Americans/American property during George W’s 8 year term. There were 18 in Barrack Obama’s 4-year term.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
4:50 pm
Colin Powell has excused himself from Conservatism although he has retained enough sense about him not to identify himself as a liberal. But that still doesn’t change the fact that he is now a liberal. He’s yours. You can have him. No one will be shedding any tears over this. He kicked saddam husseins azz but failed to finish the job and Bush had to clean up the mess. It cost the country many good men and much treasure to revisit what powell did not have the courage to do. This is his sole accomplishment, not unlike obozocare. Some adult will have to clean up this mess.
So the next time you quote powell, or kathleen parker or david frum, remember that it only exposes your own extreme gullibility. You and your simple liberal mind have been had, again.
Do you ever hear us quoting david brooks?
CC
January 21st, 2013
4:50 pm
“This is the kind of willful misrepresentation of opposing viewpoints that is the stock-in-trade of Obama’s rhetoric.”
This should be called what it is: just ANOTHER Obama LIE. This is a man who has lied so frequently that I question if even HE recognizes the fact that he is lying. It is yet another willful deception of the stupid who abound in numbers among his supporters and worshippers.
Obama is nothing more than what he has always been: a pathetic, divisive egotist bent on a mission of retribution for some unknown perceived wrong he feels he and Moochelle have experienced.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
4:53 pm
melshop,
Got a link?
md
January 21st, 2013
4:54 pm
” He has spent 4 years as a Centrist …”
Really?
Expansion of medicaid…..executive order for illegal immigrants……subsidies for Obamacare…….socialized credit card debt…….usurped bankruptcy process in favor of unions…….NLRB appointments in favor of unions…..etc.
Hardly centrist. Can you actually name something that is dependent on personal responsibility vs the gov’t as the benefactor?
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
4:56 pm
On a day reserved for unity and service, you can’t wait to criticize an inspiring speech by our president
For Lynnie Gal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VZ5DfCY6kY
md
January 21st, 2013
4:58 pm
“Wouldn’t you rather have a system where insurance is required, so that you don’t have to pay for everyone else’s medical care when they don’t have insurance? Or do you like larger bills from hospitals to cover those that aren’t insured?”
You must have missed the entire section on the expansion of medicaid and the insurance subsidies……
” It’s fact that 3.766 million jobs were created during his first term, and the economy continues to improve.”
Created is a bit of a stretch don’t you think? If a company lays off 5 and then hires one back, is that the new definition of created??
rufus
January 21st, 2013
4:59 pm
I’m a Democrat but not an unabashed Obama supporter. However, it appears that the hatred (is there another word?)that has been directed at him is unparalleled and establishes an atmosphere that is poisoned beyond any capacity to negotiate or govern. Stop the hatred, take a deep breath and lets all work to get through this mess.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
5:03 pm
md,
” It’s fact that 3.766 million jobs were created during his first term, and the economy continues to improve.”
This is after the w collapse.
This President’s legacy is pretty good.
Give it a rest for today.
Cliff
January 21st, 2013
5:04 pm
melshop:
Those aren’t facts, those are lies.
Facts: Thousands of Americans died from terrorist attacks during George Bush’s eight years in office, during which he presided over the greatest period of terrorist attacks against the United States in its history. In contrast, no foreign terrorist attacks in the US during the last 4 years. Very few deaths from terrorist attacks overseas, compared to the thousands that died during Bush’s presidency.
Fact: President Obama has been more successful in protecting Americans from terrorist attacks than President Bush.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
5:04 pm
Stop the hatred, take a deep breath and lets all work to get through this mess.
That has to come from both sides, rufus.
Featuring the late, great Cornelius Bumpus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9URZfqYf2o
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
5:08 pm
For my buddy JamVet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld1l4Ud7jp8
“Who wants to play those 8s and aces??”
md
January 21st, 2013
5:14 pm
“This is after the w collapse.”
And there’s your sign……W warned of the upcoming catastrophe as far back as 2001 in his very first budget. If one wants to point the finger of blame at W and not include the other complicit parties one is quite welcome, but one is doing themselves a disservice by doing so.
Cliff
January 21st, 2013
5:14 pm
Md:
So 3.766 million jobs created is not significant in you review, because the job losses under Bush were so extensive? Okay, and?
I didn’t miss the part about Medicaid, or insurance subsidies. We’ve always paid for other people’s medical care when they don’t have insurance. This isn’t new under Obama, as some would have you believe. The health care reform act creates a new more efficient way to pay for it, and requires more people to purchase their own insurance so they are not receiving medical care that we have to pay for. It’s a mix of expansion of Medicare and required insurance for everyone else. And it cuts medical bankruptcies significantly. I notice, you just as other Republicans have not proposed an alternative. Status quo is not sustainable.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
5:14 pm
Before Kyle shuts us down, want to get one out for josef, who needs to visit here more often.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsnZMee16lk
JDW
January 21st, 2013
5:17 pm
@md…”Expansion of medicaid…..executive order for illegal immigrants……subsidies for Obamacare…….socialized credit card debt…….usurped bankruptcy process in favor of unions…….NLRB appointments in favor of unions…..etc.”
Perfect examples of the ignorance of the right…
“Expansion of medicaid”…yet Meidcaid spending grew and 2/3’s the rate of the 90’s and about the same as during the days of Duhbya…
http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparebar.jsp?ind=181&cat=4&sub=47&yr=1&typ=2
“executive order for illegal immigrants”…as did Reagan before him
“subsidies for Obamacare”…by using a scheme dreamed up by the Heritage Foundation as a “Centrist” approach.
“socialized credit card debt”…no more so and probably less percentagewise than Reagan/Bush/Duhbya
Starting to get it yet…today’s “Conservatives” think Barry Goldwater is a RINO and would challenge Reagan with a primary run from the Right.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
5:18 pm
The health care reform act creates a new more efficient way to pay for it
Obviously Cliff isn’t an actuary and doesn’t work in health care. Keep dreaming, friend.
For Cliff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1FRvwJP1pk
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
5:22 pm
In TibWorld, everything is Epic Fail.
Except this:
-Lose Presidential race
-Lose seats in the Senate
-Lose seats in the House
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
5:26 pm
Still gives me goosebumps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D4eUWBAE_A&list=PL47BE820B25C97AA5
No tingle up the leg, though.
md
January 21st, 2013
5:31 pm
“So 3.766 million jobs created is not significant in you review, because the job losses under Bush were so extensive? Okay, and? ”
Words have meaning, and your use of the word “Created” is the problem…….created are NEW jobs, not the re-hiring of folks that got layed off.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
5:33 pm
md,
“There is plenty of blame to go around”.
Watch the parade.
md
January 21st, 2013
5:36 pm
““Expansion of medicaid”…yet Meidcaid spending grew and 2/3’s the rate of the 90’s and about the same as during the days of Duhbya…”
That link is worthless when most of the expansion has yet to be implemented……..
““executive order for illegal immigrants”…as did Reagan before him”
Reagan worked with Congress, not around them…….
““subsidies for Obamacare”…by using a scheme dreamed up by the Heritage Foundation as a “Centrist” approach.”
Take from one and give to another just because is now centrist? If you say so…….
““socialized credit card debt”…no more so and probably less percentagewise than Reagan/Bush/Duhbya”
Wrong……none of them passed a bill limiting banks on what they can charge people that don’t pay their bills, but evidently you like paying for the neighbors boat…….
Get what, the shaft?
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
5:37 pm
“…created are NEW jobs, not the re-hiring of folks that got layed off.”
…in the Bush Depression…
Dusty
January 21st, 2013
5:39 pm
Well, all of us should be celebrating the fact that Americans can ELECT a president and not have a dictator who sets himself up to rule or a king who inherited a country. That freedom we celebrate.
Whether we like our president or not, we CELEBRATE the right to speak our opinions. So we have both praise and complaints. Some say others are unkind to President Obama. Could be. But I know there was pure virulence heaped upon President Bush and still is. Even lies are permitted it seems.
. So before you make judgments about one, be sure you remember the other.
I find it very hard to do myself. Can you?
.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
5:42 pm
For the one who will always be in my heart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oqAU5VxFWs
WAW
January 21st, 2013
5:43 pm
Kyle – you would fit in very well upstairs at Downton Abby. But then, it is only fiction. The President sounded more like Little Lord Fauntleroy, But then, that too is only fiction. Imagine all we like and still reality is hungry children, old people dying alone, and those who, no matter hard they try, can’t relieve either. The history of our system of government records more failures than successes and yet it is this best in history. Take a deep breathe, we’ve here before and we will be here again.
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
5:43 pm
Bruno @ 1:15 pm
MarkV: “Barrack Obama was elected twice, the first Democrat since FDR to receive twice the majority of votes.
Bruno: “Very apt comparison, MarkV, given the fact that both are responsible for extending the poor economic times they inherited via ineffective government intervention which did little other than rack up crushing debt.”
Bruno,
Considering that I did not make any comparison, you inability to respond to the point of the comment has been duly noted.
Dusty
January 21st, 2013
5:45 pm
Bruno,
I’ll second that invitation to Josef. I wish he’d come more often.(He even likes poetry!) After all, this is the GOOD PLACE!!!
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
5:46 pm
JDW: the guy that is busy cleaning up [the deficit] has the right.
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Not sure how more than doubling the deficit is “cleaning up” anything. Or did you have in mind the Obozo cronies a la Solyndra who are cleaning up at the taxpayer trough?
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
5:47 pm
Dusty @ 5:39 pm
“So before you make judgments about one, be sure you remember the other.
I find it very hard to do myself. Can you?”
Dusty,
Surely you did not mean it this way?
md
January 21st, 2013
5:49 pm
“…in the Bush Depression…”
Yet another sign……
That man sure had a lot of power doing everything all by his little lonesome……
getalife
January 21st, 2013
5:49 pm
Dusty,
“But I know there was pure virulence heaped upon President Obama and still is. Even lies are permitted it seems.”
Yes, I call it unhinged behavior.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
5:50 pm
Civilian employment level, January of each year:
2001: 137 million
2009: 142 million
2013: 142 million
Just in case you were confused by the Obozo receptacles claiming Our President Bush destroyed jobs while Obozo created millions of them.
Obozo: Inferior to Bush.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
5:51 pm
The source for that is Obozo’s Bureau of Labor Statistics, by the way.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 21st, 2013
5:58 pm
Crowd shrinks by nearly half for 2nd inaugural
Dusty
January 21st, 2013
5:59 pm
MarkV
I don’t forget the past even when I try to be fair. That is all I said. Did not mean anything deep or complicated.
To be open minded or not to be? That is the question. many times. (Excuse me, Shakespeare, for paraphrasing your words..)
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
January 21st, 2013
6:02 pm
Cliff, in case you missed it, you cannot order an attack on someone you haven’t found yet.
You’d probably know that if you had served in the military.
And you have no idea what Bush would have done had he been found, nut given his penchant for military use, he would have likely done the same thing without hesitating as president incompetent did.
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
6:08 pm
“That man sure had a lot of power doing everything all by his little lonesome……”
This message brought to you by the Accountability Mavens…
Dusty
January 21st, 2013
6:08 pm
getalife, 5:49
That is not what I said and you know it. You purposely misquoted me. .
In fact, you were so outlandish about Bush I wondered about your state of mind.
If you want to say somethng to me, at least be truthful. .
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
6:09 pm
I will give credit to Obozo for not just breaking his 2008 campaign promise to end the Bush tax cuts even before they expired in 2010, but for insisting they be extended through 2012, and then making them PERMANENT.
Hillbilly D
January 21st, 2013
6:10 pm
you cannot order an attack on someone you haven’t found yet.
There’s a good book out called “The Finish” by Mark Bowden, which details the hunt for Bin Laden and other Al-Queda people. It’s a pretty even-handed (in my opinion) look at efforts that actually started back in the Clinton years. It took them a while to get their act together but they’ve built a pretty good intelligence machine. An awful lot of it was work done stateside, on computer programs and linking the mounds of information that they did have.
Of course, in their business, you have to be right every time.
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
6:10 pm
Dusty @ 5:59 pm
Dusty,
I did not mean by my comment anything complicated either, or profound. But if you read your comment, I am sure you will recognize that you must have wanted to say something else – the opposite.
(“… be sure you remember ….I find it very hard to do myself….” )
indigo
January 21st, 2013
6:16 pm
md – 5:49
Bush’s two credit card wars and generous tax cuts for the rich certainly contributed to our past and present financial problems.
Obama inherited Bush’s mess and it will take many years to clean it up.
All your con bluster can’t change facts.
monty
January 21st, 2013
6:19 pm
I hope you caught Obama’s comment about “sustainable” Earth. Type in sustainable development on Youtube and be horrified.
Old Timer
January 21st, 2013
6:19 pm
All th\\ose young generation that voted for Obama that wanted free birth control and like his jivey spin, unfortunately will stay unemployed for four more years. They need to spend less time on listening to Obama’s jazzy rhetoric and spend more time asking him about real issues, One day they willl wake up and realize there are no free lunches after spending four more years in their parents basement.. He is a good orator, but when it comes to running the United States he is in way over his head at our expense. But then he may have another agenda.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
6:19 pm
Obozo also increased spending from $3 trillion a year to $3.7 trillion.
Not sure how that “cleans up” anything.
Dusty
January 21st, 2013
6:21 pm
Mark V
I mean it does not pay to keep on remembering past hateful words of others. But even if I know that, I still fail in my own expectations. Politics don’t help.
Oh to be perfect! I haven’t reached that status yet. (But almost, of course….!!!)
Off to join some salmon fillets.
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
6:23 pm
Dusty @ 5:39 pm
“But I know there was pure virulence heaped upon President Bush and still is. Even lies are permitted it seems.”
Dusty,
I can only agree with you in this. While I disagreed with many policies and decisions of President G.W. Bush, I was also appalled by some of the virulence of the attacks on him. And for the record, I also believe hid did many things for which he should be praised.
On the other hand, I find very strange the second part of the above comment, “Even lies are permitted it seems,” considering your reproof of my calling untrue statements lies.
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
6:26 pm
“jivey”
“jazzy”
Old Timer: No identity issues for you, are there?
Michael
January 21st, 2013
6:27 pm
It’s not like I thought you were going to find anything positive to say about it Kyle, so no surprise by your remarks. But he won the election so you and Rush will have your Fav Fox News will have something to whine about for four more years.
monty
January 21st, 2013
6:29 pm
Haven’t seen any good replies to Kyle’s talking points.
Bruno
January 21st, 2013
6:29 pm
Dusty–Since you’re such a big fan of Burger King, I thought you might like to know that I enjoyed their new chicken-apple-cranberry salad.
Kyle–Thanks for having us here today. I hope that you’re able to deal with the troll problem soon without having to shut the whole blog down every night.
Later, tators and gaters.
Dusty
January 21st, 2013
6:31 pm
MarkV
“Lies” in GENERAL can be tolerated. But not” lies” or ” liar” aimed at specific PERSONS.. That is a personal insult..
Must go…. .
md
January 21st, 2013
6:31 pm
As a country, especially one that is having financial problems, why do we pay for all the pom and circumstance in the middle of an 8 year term? It makes no sense……..
And that applies to both parties……
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
6:33 pm
Dusty @ 6:21 pm
I understand now what you meant. Your original comment just sounded like you found it hard to remember what had been said about President Bush.
G’nite and bon appetit.
Dusty
January 21st, 2013
6:34 pm
Bruno,
I even got BK gift cards for Christmas. Glad you liked their salad. I will have to try that one.
Off to try my own salad right now.
Rafe Hollister preparing for an Obamanist America
January 21st, 2013
6:36 pm
Well, thank goodness, I had something better to do than witness the festivities and the speech. From Kyle’s analysis, seems the speech was just more redistribution theology.
I am about tired of the redistribution myself, I have had enough with the poverty, don’t hand me anyone else’s share. 40% of us have less net worth and 53% of our recent college graduates are unemployed or under employed. Every child born today owes about $60,000 before they take their first breath. Barry has increased the national debt by 50% and he wants to spend more.
I’m glad everyone is so excited about the replay of the Reign of Error, but for me, it is just mourning in America (thanks Wayne Allen Root).
Serious Robuck
January 21st, 2013
6:37 pm
Kyle, I doubt anyone will ever accuse you of following in the steps of Ralph McGill or Eugene Patterson. It’s quite obvious that you’re a privileged kid who never suffered from discrimination or the lack of opportunity. And unlike McGill and Patterson, you don’t care for those of us who have.
I’m a 62 year old white Georgia Democrat. I thought it was an inspiring speech and a wonderful day. I’m sorry so many of you are so bitter you could find nothing positive about it.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
6:43 pm
Obozo: “The commitments we make to each other – through Medicare, and Medicaid, and Social Security – these things do not sap our initiative; they strengthen us. They do not make us a nation of takers; they free us to take the risks that make this country great.”
———————–
Of course, he didn’t mention a host of other parasite maintenance programs that are exploding thanks to his failure to lead.
How in the world did we ever survive as a nation before food stamps, Section 8 housing, SSI, and all the other handouts? I guess folks didn’t take any risks before the 1960’s.
Lap it up, moochers. Your messiah has spoken.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 21st, 2013
6:45 pm
Serious Robuck: I’m THE 62 year old white Georgia Democrat.
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FIFY
MarkV
January 21st, 2013
6:45 pm
Dusty @ 6:31 pm: “Lies” in GENERAL can be tolerated. But not” lies” or ” liar” aimed at specific PERSONS.. That is a personal insult..
Dusty,
If you come back after enjoying your salmon fillets, I must tell you that your comment above is about the strangest and most incomprehensible distinction I have ever heard on this subject. When you find the time, please explain, what is meant by a “lie in general.” In my perhaps incomplete understanding, a lie is always something that someone has said or wrote, and is not true. As I already commented before, calling a statement made by somebody a lie is quite different from calling that person a liar, somebody who lies repeatedly a habitually. For the record again, I have never called you a liar, and do not believe that you are. But I also do not believe that calling an untrue statement you make a lie is rude. Would you prefer my saying instead something like “I believe that the truthfulness of your statement could be successfully challenged?”
CC
January 21st, 2013
7:01 pm
“Crowd shrinks by nearly half for 2nd inaugural”
Many of the would-be attendees blew their welfare checks on cheap wine and couldn’t afford to get to D. C.
CC
January 21st, 2013
7:05 pm
“I’m a 62 year old white Georgia Democrat.”
Keep your problems to yourself . . . and I wouldn’t even admit that in mixed company, if I were you.
Lynnie Gal
January 21st, 2013
7:07 pm
Comments like CC made about “inauguration attendees blowing their welfare checks on cheap wine and couldn’t get to D.C.” is the reason nobody likes Republicans anymore. The only Republicans left who aren’t ashamed of their party are bottom feeders who make racist comments like that.
Serious Robuck
January 21st, 2013
7:07 pm
Lil Barrie, you don’t run with my crowd, Sweetie. People like you who cling to Georgia’s racist and ignorant past are still in power, admittedly, but there are MANY of us who think differently than you, in all corners of the state.
FIFY and bless your heart.
Serious Robuck
January 21st, 2013
7:09 pm
CC, I’m happy to be educated and liberal. Sorry you lost, little buddy. Better luck next time.
Cletus
January 21st, 2013
7:17 pm
“…in this country freedom is reserved for the lucky…”
I really dislike and resent the “lucky” theme. Sure some people are particularly blessed by virtue of birthright or pure luck – as in winning the lottery. But most of us who have attained some level of success in life got here but sheer dint of hard work and personal sacrifice. The “luck” thing is just a gimmick designed to make us feel guilty and appeal to our altruistic instincts.
Kyle Wingfield
January 21st, 2013
7:18 pm
That’s all for tonight. Immediate commenting will be turned back on tomorrow morning.
Kyle Wingfield
January 22nd, 2013
10:49 am
Immediate commenting is back on, and there’s a new post upstairs.
TBone
January 22nd, 2013
10:59 am
To quote Dr. MLK Jr.,”Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity”. Man how things have changed, we are there.
md
January 22nd, 2013
11:34 am
“Bush’s two credit card wars and generous tax cuts for the rich certainly contributed to our past and present financial problems.
Obama inherited Bush’s mess and it will take many years to clean it up.
All your con bluster can’t change facts.”
Did I ever say Bush didn’t contribute to the problem? I think not…..
Add to the mix the democrats that would not for the life of them reform Fannie and Freddie, a few unscrupulous bankers and several million people that bought more than they knew they could afford……..
It was a joint effort, but many here can only say “Bush”…….seems you may be included, are you?
It was a joint effort by many parties
MarkV
January 22nd, 2013
11:51 am
Dusty,
I categorically reject your suggestion that
‘“Lies” in GENERAL can be tolerated. But not” lies” or ” liar” aimed at specific PERSONS.. That is a personal insult.’
What is insulting is to lie, not to point out a lie. One of the most disturbing features of the current political debates is the tolerance of lies, by the commentators, by most everybody. I applaud the organizations checking facts. Even if I sometimes disagree with their conclusions, I appreciate their collecting the facts. But what is the effect of their “false” or even “pants on fire” grades? Just about nothing. The politicians just shrug it off. And the result is the increasing insensitivity to the value of the truth, and tolerance of lies.
This blog showed some prime examples. As you aptly noted, it was an occasion for celebration of the success of our system of government. A joyful one, during which even the President’s congressional opponents behaved with civility and refrained from attacks. But what was the leader of our blog doing? Just waiting for a chance to pounce on something the President would say. And he did. With a lie.
Kyle Wingfield ,January 21st, 2013 @12:01 pm:
“Didn’t take Obama long to get to the idea that it’s all the fault of the rich.”
You can read the transcript. Show me where Obama said that all is the fault of the rich. Where did he say that anything is fault of the rich? Where did he say that anybody is to blame? It is not there. What Kyle said was a spiteful, mean-spirited lie.
And Kyle did not stop there. The President reminded us of what system of government the Founding Fathers have given us,
“The patriots of 1776 did not fight to replace the tyranny of a king with the privileges of a few or the rule of a mob. They gave to us a Republic, a government of, and by, and for the people, entrusting each generation to keep safe our founding creed.
For more than 200 years, we have.”
How did Kyle “interpret” that? By corrupting the wording and the meaning:
Kyle: “First, there was his identification of what — or who — is at the root of our problems:
•“The patriots of 1776 did not fight to replace the tyranny of a king with the privileges of a few …”
Find me the “root of problems” in the President’s speech. See how Kyle distorted the meaning.
What is more insulting? Calling it lies, or what Kyle was doing?
melshop
January 22nd, 2013
12:05 pm
getalife
Here’s the link: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001454.html
Cliff, no those are not lies. True enough, more people died under George W, but solely because of 911. 911 occurred when he was in office just over 7 months. While it happened on his watch, the 911 report indicated that security breaches of the 1990s led to the terrorist attack in 911. That would be under Clinton. If the present POTUS can continue to blame Bush for what is going on now, then the responsibility for 911 should rightfully then go to Clinton. U.S. News also has an article about how the number of incidents have worsened every year, although the number of actual deaths has decreased.
wallbanger
January 22nd, 2013
12:53 pm
It is a sad commentary on a once great country that so many people are turning to their neighbors for support, and then complaining that it is not enough. It will never be enough. And in fact, it will be, and is continuing to decline as the so – called wealthy (or in Obama’s terms “lucky”) diminish. I worked hard to get through school, graduate school, and for just about every day of my life from the time I was 14, and yes, I am one of the “few”, and dog gone proud of it. I strongly resent having to support bums.