About the hold-up in the Sandy relief bill/pork-fest
Liberals’ new favorite Republican is Chris Christie, the New Jersey governor who this week slammed House Republicans for delaying action on a bill with aid for those affected by Hurricane Sandy. (They’ll be back to hating him the next time he goes on an anti-union rant or some such.) As I’ve said before, the real problem lies with those who lard up such bills with extra spending because they know those pet projects have a better chance of passing when attached to such an urgent measure.
Apparently that can be clear even to a politician in the storm-ravaged area, as long as that politician is not a moderate Republican running for re-election in a blue state. From Politicker.com:
Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who previously declined to slam House Speaker John Boehner over Congress’ stalled Hurricane Sandy aid, took his argument to the next level this morning and suggested federal lawmakers are partially to blame for the delay in the vote on the package because they insert “things that are totally extraneous” into bills such as this. Although Mr. Bloomberg didn’t specify the extraneous problem items, the legislation has been criticized by Republicans like Rep. Paul Ryan for being “packed with funding for unrelated items, such as commercial fisheries in American Samoa and roof repair of museums in Washington, D.C.”
“There’s this ‘Christmas Tree effect’ where legislators put in their favorite bills and tack them onto something. The [Obama] administration does that, that’s why you have an omnibus bill — to force everybody to vote for things that would never stand up in the light of day if they were individual,” Mr. Bloomberg said on his weekly radio show with John Gambling. “I’m sympathetic. Yelling and screaming at [Mr. Boehner] is just not my style. It may be effective, it may not be. Everybody’s got to make their own decisions. I think the legislative leaders who criticize and those in the Legislature should stop and think, they do exactly the same thing in terms of ladling on things that are totally extraneous but it’s the only way they get them through.”
Exactly. Those who help wreck the legislative process shouldn’t complain when they find the legislative process is a wreck.
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Mr. Majestic
January 6th, 2013
11:17 am
“More hyperbolic misanthropic complaining from Mr. Repetitive.”
Broken records have their place. So do haters. Sometimes they are misplaced.
JamVet
January 6th, 2013
11:18 am
Pavlovian tibby, sit!
Roll over!
Now DO NOT speak! That’s a good boy. Here’s an Obama chewy toy for you!
Big Daddy
January 6th, 2013
11:22 am
The lonely bitter blogger who came on crying and complaining about my post, is now saying others complain
Thanks for the laughs little guy. Don’t get too excited and fall off your step stool
JamIt
January 6th, 2013
11:24 am
“Pavlovian tibby, sit! Roll over! Now DO NOT speak! That’s a good boy. Here’s an Obama chewy toy for you!”
Dang…and I thought I was messed up! This guy thinks he’s a dog who is also able to talk to himself. You get on kinds on the left, I guess.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 6th, 2013
11:24 am
AmVet, there are many things you might be able to do (but I doubt that many would be considered worthy of anyone else’s emulation), however, there is one thing you cannot do, and that is command me to do anything.
You have NO power over me.
Unlike you, I have the ability and desire to be an individual of free will, not a mindless myrmidon bowing to the rule of the State as you do.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 6th, 2013
11:29 am
Big Daddy, the summation of your history here on this blog is to complain about what other people write.
Try giving us what passes for a sorry excuse of an original thought from you, OK?
JamVet
January 6th, 2013
11:33 am
You have NO power over me.
Of course, I do.
Big Daddy
January 6th, 2013
11:37 am
Tiberius
Ankle biter queen
JamIt
January 6th, 2013
11:38 am
“AmVet, there are many things you might be able to do (but I doubt that many would be considered worthy of anyone else’s emulation), however, there is one thing you cannot do, and that is command me to do anything.”
He is thought to be absolutely one of the best flamers in the entire blogosphere. That’s gotta count for something. Doesn’t it? Maybe? Just a little? A teensy-weensy bit?
“You have NO power over me.”
That’s only because you can’t see his pocket-watch.
‘Unlike you, I have the ability and desire to be an individual of free will, not a mindless myrmidon bowing to the rule of the State as you do.”
It is kind of strange, now that I think about it, that those who so bellow for unbridled liberty are themselves slaves to things they know not.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 6th, 2013
11:40 am
AmVet, you only WISH you did.
JamIt
January 6th, 2013
11:43 am
“Ankle biter queen”
Alright…no “homophobic” insults here. But I do love the unintended irony of your statement, Pot.
JamVet
January 6th, 2013
11:45 am
Speak, tibby!
LOL at you and Twink…
In November 2005, Hagel defended his criticism of the Iraq war stating “To question your government is not unpatriotic — to not question your government is unpatriotic.”
In December 2005, in reference to Bush, the Republican Party, and the PATRIOT Act, Hagel stated “I took an oath of office to the Constitution, I didn’t take an oath of office to my party or my president.”
In July 2006, Hagel criticized the Bush administration on its handling of the Israel-Lebanon issue saying “The sickening slaughter on both sides must end and it must end now. President Bush must call for an immediate cease-fire. This madness must stop.” He also said “Our relationship with Israel is special and historic,… But it need not and cannot be at the expense of our Arab and Muslim relationships.”
Following heavy Republican losses in the 2006 midterm election, Hagel penned an editorial in The Washington Post highly critical of military strategies both employed and proposed for Iraq. He wrote that “There will be no victory or defeat for the United States in Iraq,” and called for a “phased troop withdrawal”. According to a SurveyUSA poll, in August 2006 Hagel has a 10% higher approval rating among Nebraska Democrats than Republicans.
In November 2007, he rated the Bush administration “the lowest in capacity, in capability, in policy, in consensus—almost every area” of any presidency in the last forty years.
Hell, yeah.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 6th, 2013
11:52 am
Your point, AmVet (as if you EVER have one)?
Dusty
January 6th, 2013
11:52 am
Goodbye blog.
The haters, thieves, (IDs), and discriminators have decided to wreck the place, even as we had some pleasant liberals join us. But “pleasant” has been overpowered. Pushed into the dirt.
Some of you need to go to church and hear about decency and love. MIght make your life happier. Happy people don’t behave like some here. Life is more worthwhile to them.
Big Daddy
January 6th, 2013
11:57 am
Dusty
Maybe you need to listen in church and practice what your preach
That would be a novel idea for you to try
Towncrier
January 6th, 2013
12:00 pm
Wow…one would think from what liberals are constantly saying global warming that the only person in the world who doesn’t share their view is a adjunct professor at Lonely Brook Community College. This GT professor must then be, by definition, insane:
http://judithcurry.com/2012/10/28/climate-change-no-consensus-on-consensus/
But wait…there’s more. Yes! Many more such articles and publications by prominent scientists, some of whom are even Nobel prize winners. How can that be? Good question. But that is a topic for another day.
td
January 6th, 2013
12:03 pm
Dusty
January 6th, 2013
11:52 am
This is just a sampling of the country as a whole. I agree with everything you said but unfortunately our nation has slipped down the ugly path. Democrats won the election and it seems to me that they are even more angry then they were before the election. Some Republicans think that because they lost the election it gives them the right to become angry. The American people are entrenched in two distinct camps that are diametrically, philosophically opposed and it is not going to change until something major changes.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 6th, 2013
12:05 pm
There’ll be plenty of two stepping and talking out of both sides of their mouths coming up on the Hegel nomination. He’s an anti-Semitic homophobe, with a nice little record on both. I have no idea what is going on in President Obama’s mind, but he just plummeted in my estimation with this nomination.
“The person who is nominating him is totally disregarding Israel. [...] The president has decided that he doesn’t care. It would be tragic for Israel,” the source concluded.
All around the world, al qaeda lunatics and some American lunatics………cheer.
Dusty
January 6th, 2013
12:06 pm
Not a novel idea, BIG DADDY.
I have been going to church all my life. I have not forgotten the great gift of Christ.
It certainlhy does not blind me to hate, cheating and lies. That is what I dislike..
Perhaps you have found some other faith that enhances your life. Do tell us about it. Would be much better than the total dissension you usually express..
Towncrier
January 6th, 2013
12:07 pm
“The ‘speaking consensus to power’ strategy acknowledges that available knowledge is inconclusive, and uses consensus as a proxy for truth through a negotiated interpretation of the inconclusive body of scientific evidence. ”
- Judith Curry paraphrasing Jeroen Van der Sluijs.
I love that phrase “uses consensus as a proxy for truth”. Sound familiar? Can you say upcoming gun control legislation? Can you say health care or education reform?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 6th, 2013
12:09 pm
“Maybe you need to listen in church and practice what your preach”
Maybe a novel idea for YOU to try, Big Daddy, is to know who you are addressing.
Dusty remains one of the least offensive bloggers on Kyle’s site.
Unlike many liberals on here.
Towncrier
January 6th, 2013
12:10 pm
“The American people are entrenched in two distinct camps that are diametrically, philosophically opposed and it is not going to change until something major changes.”
Like a world wide economic depression or a nuclear war?
Big Daddy
January 6th, 2013
12:11 pm
Dusty
Take the log out of tyour own eye
carlosgvv
January 6th, 2013
12:13 pm
Towncrier
Time to get yourself some education.
http://guardianlv.com/2013/01/global-warming-10-myths-and-facts-everyone-should-know-2/
Towncrier
January 6th, 2013
12:14 pm
Okay…guys…I’m out once again. Be good.
JamVet
January 6th, 2013
12:15 pm
Hagel an anti-Semite?
Gawd, you people are willfully stupid.
josef
January 6th, 2013
12:19 pm
getalife
Did you catch any of Assad’s speech?
Dusty
January 6th, 2013
12:19 pm
td,
I hope this blog is not a mirror of this country. Surely we are better than that. We have been a ” light of the world” so long. Distressed people of the world have always held us as a refuge they seek. Our freedom exemplifies what most people desire.
I am not about to give up that freedom or our assistance to others. But I do expect it to be handled intelligently. So do others. But we don’t all agree.
So let us disagree with great thought instead of great hate. That is what I am seeking.
josef
January 6th, 2013
12:21 pm
oops, I’m blog jumping…that getalife one is for Jay’s…sorry
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 6th, 2013
12:33 pm
Uh, Carlos?
Maybe you might consider the source of your “education” when trying to prove something? You know, like maybe who actually wrote the opinion piece you trot out here as factual data?
“Jim Donahue, born and raised in the inner city in New Jersey, is a survivor. Raised right across the river from New York City with the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island in his back yard, he witnessed the World Trade Center collapse on 9/11 from his mother-in-laws second story balcony. A Proud family man, Jim has been married to his childhood sweetheart, Ladybird, for 29 years. They used a steady hand to guide their children’s upbringing, and both of their two children Graduated from UNLV, and both are currently teachers in the Clark County School District.”
The guy’s a frikkin’ school teacher.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 6th, 2013
12:35 pm
Oops, sorry, Carlos. His KIDS are schools teachers.
He’s just an opinion columnist.
Hardly the source of scientific proof.
Dusty
January 6th, 2013
12:39 pm
Tiberius.
Thanks for the kind words. That is ’specially nice coming from one who thinks so clearly.
Towncrier
January 6th, 2013
12:45 pm
Wait. Not going yet.
“Time to get yourself some education.”
I have a considerable amount, thank you. I point you to an article by a prominent Georgia Tech professor and you point me to an article published by a liberal rag and written by someone who credentials (other than what I have quoted below) I am having trouble finding?
“General Manager Jim Donahue, born and raised in the inner city in New Jersey, is a survivor. Raised right across the river from New York City with the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island in his back yard, he witnessed the World Trade Center collapse on 9/11 from his mother-in-laws second story balcony. A Proud family man, Jim has been married to his childhood sweetheart, Ladybird, for 29 years. ”
Why don’t you get some education and read through the comments to the article I linked? Professor Curry does not dispute that global warming has occurred recently but is simply unsure of its cause(s). As am I, BTW.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 6th, 2013
12:46 pm
I always thought that a couple of homophobes on the president’s cabinet would be a good thing for the country but I never figured obozo would be the one nominating them.
Strange world we live in.
Towncrier
January 6th, 2013
12:54 pm
“Oops, sorry, Carlos. His KIDS are schools teachers. He’s just an opinion columnist.”
The very fact that he is unable or unwilling to provide academic credentials speaks volumes, I would say.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 6th, 2013
12:59 pm
Not to mention that the article was written in the style of a petulant three year old.
Towncrier
January 6th, 2013
1:08 pm
“The very fact that he is unable or unwilling to provide academic credentials speaks volumes, I would say.”
It doesn’t logically prove he is wrong, but the plain fact is that most of the people on the left and right publishing articles about this issue have a political axe to grind. Just google the topic and see how many of the links are to media sources and political blogs. There is also the question of the influence of money, reprisal and worldview upon the beliefs of “credible” scientists (however they may come down on this issue). No one is debating whether or not the earth revolves around the sun. But people are legitimately debating whether or not most of the recent global warming may be truthfully attributed to anthropogenic greenhouse gasses. Curry is right: a majority “consensus” (manufactured or real) does not mean something is necessarily true. Seems to me that those who are so “sure” global warming is anthropogenic that they want to spend trillions of dollars to combat it ought to spend their time finding a way to unequivocally prove they’re right – so they rest of us “unbelievers” can get on board. But that is not what I see happening. I just see a lot of campaigning for a belief (as we get from religion).
josef
January 6th, 2013
1:15 pm
AESOP
Yep. Strange world, indeed. You went to bed last night a conservative and woke up a liberal…
Towncrier
January 6th, 2013
1:15 pm
BBL.
carlosgvv
January 6th, 2013
1:20 pm
Tiberius, Towncrier
Well, perhaps you’ll believe the 99% then.
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/climate-weather/blogs/99-of-climatologists-agree-global-warming-is-manmade
getalife
January 6th, 2013
1:22 pm
“So let us disagree with great thought instead of great hate. That is what I am seeking.”
Well, you are on the wrong blog for that.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 6th, 2013
1:26 pm
Carlos, I view everything as suspect when the money for their alleged “research” comes from the very sources who are looking for a preconceived answer to support their creation of new laws for control and taxation.
But then, I don’t worship the State as you do.
Big Daddy
January 6th, 2013
1:35 pm
Big Oil scientists are receiving money from the Feds to push global warming?
Really?
Shell, BP. Mobil, Chevron etc, etc
Wow…
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
January 6th, 2013
1:38 pm
@iowahawkblog: Chuck Hagel shows that President Obama can forge bipartisanship with Republicans, as long as they’re moderate, centrist Jew-haters.
MarkV
January 6th, 2013
1:38 pm
Dusty is indeed one of the least offensive bloggers on Kyle’s site. All the more disappointing that she cannot resist sometimes making offensive personal comments without provocation, as well as joining others – of both political persuasions – in writing generalized condemnations of those on the other side.
Perhaps watching Downton Abbey tonight will improve her manners.
mountain man
January 6th, 2013
1:43 pm
“Well, perhaps you’ll believe the 99% then.”
yes, climatologist agree that global warming is manmade. What would be the percentage who would agree with the following statement: “I am 90% confident that there will be catastrophic incidents caused by global warming within the next 20 years.”
I would bet you would see a lot of hedging. The NOAA site says that they are 90% confident that the ocean level will rise between 8 inces and 6.6 feet by 2100. That is a pretty big “margin of error”.
JamVet
January 6th, 2013
1:44 pm
You went to bed last night a conservative and woke up a liberal…
Now thass funny!
I told you these cons were incredibly confused! (Which may be a result of sunspot caused global cooling.)
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 6th, 2013
1:44 pm
Oh, so now you’re worshiping Big Oil, Big Daddy?
As if companies don’t grab at any State dollars they can to keep the very same State away from their front door in a stunning act of appeasement.
You do live in the real world, don’t you?
mountain man
January 6th, 2013
1:48 pm
The difference between global warming and other controversial theories is that people are wanting to institute large amounts of new taxes on all energy, a tax that will impact the poor most of all, in order to fix a predicted problem that not everyone agrees is a serious issue.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
January 6th, 2013
1:49 pm
Given their staunch belief in the “Butterfly Effect”, climatologists can safely argue that ANYTHING man does can affect climate.
Arguing a direct result? Not so much.
Arguing a percentage of result? Not so much.
Arguing what specific cause? Not so much.
Wanting to tax and control that which they cannot prove? Absolutely!