About the hold-up in the Sandy relief bill/pork-fest
Liberals’ new favorite Republican is Chris Christie, the New Jersey governor who this week slammed House Republicans for delaying action on a bill with aid for those affected by Hurricane Sandy. (They’ll be back to hating him the next time he goes on an anti-union rant or some such.) As I’ve said before, the real problem lies with those who lard up such bills with extra spending because they know those pet projects have a better chance of passing when attached to such an urgent measure.
Apparently that can be clear even to a politician in the storm-ravaged area, as long as that politician is not a moderate Republican running for re-election in a blue state. From Politicker.com:
Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who previously declined to slam House Speaker John Boehner over Congress’ stalled Hurricane Sandy aid, took his argument to the next level this morning and suggested federal lawmakers are partially to blame for the delay in the vote on the package because they insert “things that are totally extraneous” into bills such as this. Although Mr. Bloomberg didn’t specify the extraneous problem items, the legislation has been criticized by Republicans like Rep. Paul Ryan for being “packed with funding for unrelated items, such as commercial fisheries in American Samoa and roof repair of museums in Washington, D.C.”
“There’s this ‘Christmas Tree effect’ where legislators put in their favorite bills and tack them onto something. The [Obama] administration does that, that’s why you have an omnibus bill — to force everybody to vote for things that would never stand up in the light of day if they were individual,” Mr. Bloomberg said on his weekly radio show with John Gambling. “I’m sympathetic. Yelling and screaming at [Mr. Boehner] is just not my style. It may be effective, it may not be. Everybody’s got to make their own decisions. I think the legislative leaders who criticize and those in the Legislature should stop and think, they do exactly the same thing in terms of ladling on things that are totally extraneous but it’s the only way they get them through.”
Exactly. Those who help wreck the legislative process shouldn’t complain when they find the legislative process is a wreck.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:36 pm
“Some of you cons would have thought the earth was flat”
What a stupid comment.
Dixie
January 5th, 2013
4:36 pm
twinkie is shoving it! How appropriate!
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:37 pm
“Then quit pretending to be a high school graduate and we’ll call it even, twink.”
I have an MBA, jam. Can you comprehend what that is? Doubt it.
getalife
January 5th, 2013
4:37 pm
He dropped his twinkie then shoved it.
MarkV
January 5th, 2013
4:39 pm
This argument about grant money deciding the outcome of the science of global warming is not just insulting to every scientist, but quite laughable. Not only it shows a complete ignorance of the grant process, but those dozens of academies of science are in countries in with varieties of politics of governments, and the results do no change when the politics of a government is reversed.
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:39 pm
Get, I know you lost your brain cells when you swallowed a hole jar of pills but please try to be funny when you post nonsense.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 5th, 2013
4:40 pm
We don’t have to go to the kookman blog, the kookman blog has come to us. One must wonder why they have to bring the mindlessness over here. Is it not mentally stimulating enough amongst your fellow libs?
getalife
January 5th, 2013
4:41 pm
shove it,
I am here to make fun of you.
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:42 pm
Aesop, the left wing retards have no life so it’s not surprising that they came over here. It’s not like any of them can get a girlfriend or anything. Jam is a member of NAMBLA.
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:43 pm
Get, youre a loser welfare baby mama. You have nothing to make fun of me for. Even Kyle makes fun of you.
td
January 5th, 2013
4:43 pm
MarkV
January 5th, 2013
4:39 pm
Even pure environmentalist are saying all the money is hurting the cause. When you own are calling you out then you can not just ignore it and claim it is an attack from the opposition.
Towncrier
January 5th, 2013
4:44 pm
“Are the scientists who work for BP, Chevron, Mobil, Shell all “liberal scientists”? How do you define “liberal scientist”? Anyone that has a differing narrative then you? If so, does the mean they are wrong and what is your credentials besides a differing opinion? Some of you cons would have thought the earth was flat.”
Where did I ever use the phrase “liberal scientist”? I said liberals’ “scientific” positions – that is, the positions held by liberals such as yourself. Scientists, of course, may be liberal or conservative. That has nothing to do with whether or not their claims can be shown to be valid. Those claims can only be known to be true if they have been unequivocally validated. And that is NOT the case with the claim that the recent global warming is man made. All they can prove is a correlation between global warming and industrial activity. That does NOT necessarily mean the latter is causing the former. It is possible that may be so (to some or even a great extent), but it is not proven to be so. This is what I am getting at: correlations and patterns (when variables are not isolated – as is most often the case) do not validate anything – they only suggest possible connections. Why don’t you investigate how many times medical science has been wrong over the years? That might be instructive for you.
td
January 5th, 2013
4:45 pm
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:43 pm
We are on the same side of the political spectrum but stop the attacks now.
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:46 pm
Td, why?
Towncrier
January 5th, 2013
4:47 pm
“Td, why?”
So Kyle’s “bedtime” policy will not be reinstated.
getalife
January 5th, 2013
4:48 pm
Good job cons.
You do want your blog to stay open.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
January 5th, 2013
4:48 pm
Nothing gets the left as riled up as when their precious programs and theories are thoroughly debunked and ridiculed.
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:48 pm
Town, ok I’ll tone it back.
td
January 5th, 2013
4:49 pm
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:46 pm
Td, why?
Because
1: Kyle will shut down the blog.
2: Most importantly: Conservatives have a superior philosophy and for us to be in nothing but attack mode is exactly what the progressives want us to do and we are better than that.
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:50 pm
Tiberiuos, they get riled up because they know nothing about science yet pretend they do know. Take jams computer away and ask him to explain how climate works and you’ll get a lot of nonsensical rhetoric.
getalife
January 5th, 2013
4:50 pm
You are missing the opportunity on climate change.
It creates alternatives to oil and jobs.
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:51 pm
Td, the reason I go after the left is because of how vile they act on jays blog. They can’t hide behind him here.
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:52 pm
Get, if it creates jobs then please explain why solar panel companies are going bankrupt everywhere.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 5th, 2013
4:54 pm
Yeah, I agree it creates alternatives to jobs.
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:55 pm
Get, speaking of jobs why can’t you get one?
Towncrier
January 5th, 2013
4:55 pm
“Town, ok I’ll tone it back.”
Thank you, buddy.
“Td, the reason I go after the left is because of how vile they act on jays blog. They can’t hide behind him here.”
They act much more restrained here, and that is good. Let truth and reason will the day, not personal attacks.
getalife
January 5th, 2013
4:55 pm
shove it,
Because China produces them with cheap labor but their workers are starting to demand better wages.
The jobs are not just solar but your media has your focus just on solar.
Buffett just invested in solar.
josef
January 5th, 2013
4:55 pm
SHOVE IT
It’s pretty obvious what you’re doing over at Jay’s, but what have you got against Kyle and his crew? He left the thread open this weekend and asked it not to be screwed up. Most have abided by that and have been even gracious in welcoming some visitors.
otherwise…
KYLE
Just wanted to thank you for the opportunity to come by and wish my blog friends over here the best for the New Year.
getalife
January 5th, 2013
4:56 pm
“Get, speaking of jobs why can’t you get one?”
They told you to stop so listen con.
JamVet
January 5th, 2013
4:57 pm
Twinkie has an MBA and I have a Gulfstream IV.
And a castle in Germany…
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:58 pm
Jam, have fun getting your hand drunk again tonight, loser. And stay away from little boys you sick freak.
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:59 pm
Jam, you have nothing on me, retard.
Towncrier
January 5th, 2013
4:59 pm
“And a castle in Germany…”
Where??? Baden-Württemberg? Hesse? Saxony? The upkeep must be out of this world.
shove it
January 5th, 2013
5:00 pm
Josef, I have nothing against you. My beef is with the jam vet. I’m out for the night.
Stay safe, people.
Jam vet, stay away from the little kids.
shove it
January 5th, 2013
5:02 pm
“Buffett just invested in solar.”
And oil, coal etc. It’s what hypocritical left wingers do.
Towncrier
January 5th, 2013
5:03 pm
Alright…I am out again. Goodnight, all.
getalife
January 5th, 2013
5:05 pm
That was his latest investment.
After the internet, big investors had two choices.
Housing or green energy.
After the housing bust, green energy is the choice.
Its a win win.
Jobs and getting off oil.
shove it
January 5th, 2013
5:21 pm
Get, I left you a nice message on jays blog.
td
January 5th, 2013
5:24 pm
shove it
January 5th, 2013
4:51 pm
Td, the reason I go after the left is because of how vile they act on jays blog. They can’t hide behind him here.
I get it but it does nothing but validates there philosophy. We conservatives are better. Attack their philosophy with vigor and facts. Attack their laws with a philosophical debate. I have felt the same way as you do for years and Jay’s blog even gets the best of me from time to time but during those times it caused a step back.
getalife
January 5th, 2013
5:27 pm
I don’t think shove it should get this blog shut down again.
Just delete the child’s comments.
MarkV
January 5th, 2013
5:36 pm
Towncrier @ 4:4
“Those claims can only be known to be true if they have been unequivocally validated. And that is NOT the case with the claim that the recent global warming is man made. All they can prove is a correlation between global warming and industrial activity. That does NOT necessarily mean the latter is causing the former. It is possible that may be so (to some or even a great extent), but it is not proven to be so. This is what I am getting at: correlations and patterns (when variables are not isolated – as is most often the case) do not validate anything – they only suggest possible connections. “
Very true, correlations do not PROVE anything. As a matter of fact, nothing in science can be PROVEN. All we have is evidence, and the scientists make conclusions based on that evidence. And at any stage, the consensus of specialists is the best thing we have. If you disregard that, you do it at your own peril. Next time you are sick, and your physician prescribes a cure, ask him if he can PROVE that it is the right one, and accept it only when it is “unequivocally validated.”
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
January 5th, 2013
6:02 pm
Hiya, Josef!
Happy New Year my friend.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 5th, 2013
6:40 pm
So when does the NRA demonization campaign begin in earnest, libbies?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
January 5th, 2013
6:42 pm
You mean it hasn’t already, Aesop?
getalife
January 5th, 2013
6:43 pm
I am pro gun.
Hillbilly D
January 5th, 2013
6:47 pm
I’m not Kyle but if I were, I think I’d just go ahead and put this blog thing to sleep. It’s never going to change. It’s a shame in a way; there are actually some good conversations on occasion but they’re few and far between.
My one hope is that no kids ever read this stuff. They’ll find out soon enough how silly adults can be. Let ‘em keep their innocence as long as they can. Like most things in life, the few screw it up for the many.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 5th, 2013
6:51 pm
Usually by now they’d have the mindless minions out babbling about the evil NRA, like the Koch Brothers deal, for example.
But haven’t heard much.
Perhaps they know they can’t win.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 5th, 2013
6:52 pm
Hillbilly D
Jay’s scrubbing up next door right now.
getalife
January 5th, 2013
6:55 pm
Guns was not on the agenda until some nut shot and killed kids at school.
It will probably fail.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
January 5th, 2013
6:59 pm
Guns are always on a lib’s agenda. They’re just waiting for a tragedy to glom onto.