Will wonders never cease: Democrats discover taxes hurt businesses!
How cute: Fifteen Democratic senators who voted for Obamacare back in 2009 are asking Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to see that the excise tax on medical devices is not implemented for now.
Read their letter here. It ticks all the usual boxes for the kind of anti-tax arguments that Democrats typically reject out of hand:
- The industry “directly employs over 400,000 people in the United States and is responsible for a total of two million high-skilled manufacturing jobs.”
- The industry “is also one of the few that enjoys a net trade surplus…”
- Our economy has a need for “increasing exports, promoting small businesses, and growing high-tech manufacturing jobs for the future…”
- The slapdash way in which Obamacare was constructed, with major decisions punted to an unaccountable bureaucracy to make (OK, that’s not exactly how the senators put it), has caused “significant uncertainty and confusion for businesses.”
- Rather than moving forward with another punitive tax on a particular industry, it would be preferable “to develop a long-term solution to help move our economy forward, reduce our debt and reform our tax code…”
- Not moving forward with this tax “will benefit patients, innovators and boost our country’s economic growth.”
All of which are arguments that would have been helpful for these Democrats to make three years ago when they were rushing to pass Obamacare in the first place. Conservatives made these very same arguments at the time, only to have Democrats ram the law through Congress anyway.
It turns out that some of these senators represent states where the medical-device industry is particularly important. I guess they had to pass the bill to find out what was in it.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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I'm just a Bill
December 12th, 2012
12:29 pm
Just for you Little B
http://www.skymachines.com/US-National-Debt-Per-Capita-Percent-of-GDP-and-by-Presidental-Term.htm
Sailfish
December 12th, 2012
12:29 pm
There are no winners
just opinions;
tell that to
your minions!
Sailfish
December 12th, 2012
12:36 pm
just a bill
Nice chart – now there’s some facts we could all use, thanks!
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
12:37 pm
Still waiting for that link to back up your assertion, sockpuppet.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
12:39 pm
sockpuppet claims my condemnation was selective.
Still waiting for that link.
I'm just a Bill
December 12th, 2012
12:41 pm
Little B can’t count nor does he comprehend Appropriation Bills and we wont even mention who controlled the House the majority of time over the last 20 yrs?
TBone
December 12th, 2012
12:44 pm
But we gotta pass it to see all the wonderful stuff in it or some such nonsense Queen Nancy Piglosi.
I'm just a Bill
December 12th, 2012
12:45 pm
Little B as your other faux alpha wannbe partner would say
“Color me shocked” and “Your surreneder is accepted”…….
You take care little buddy. Keep your bib on and don’t fall
Jefferson
December 12th, 2012
12:52 pm
I guess you are going to cry your whole adult life.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
12:52 pm
That’s not what I challenged you on, sockpuppet.
You claimed my outrage was selective. You were just making stuff up. Got it.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
12:56 pm
Hmm…someone is about to be invited to leave…tic toc.
Bye bye, fake Lil’ Barry!
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
1:05 pm
And Cheesy, just for the record, that “discourse” is coming from one of your buddies.
You must be real proud.
Out of here
December 12th, 2012
1:06 pm
LLB
Yes someone is out of here and should be..
Besides the bs of that blogger using your name, it was fitting that you made the call, especially with you having had the same experience of “leaving”
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
1:08 pm
Heh heh…my experience is with folks like you getting hacked off at losing the debate, then blowing a gasket and committing blog suicide.
Out of here
December 12th, 2012
1:10 pm
LLB
Wrong, you committed suicide and was booted… But nice try
Kyle Wingfield
December 12th, 2012
1:13 pm
The fake Lil’ Barry @ 12:52 is off the blog.
Out of here
December 12th, 2012
1:15 pm
Thank you
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 12th, 2012
1:30 pm
Clinton: Took his eye off the ball and allowed al Qaeda to plan, train for, and deploy the 9/11 hijackers.
I’m sure there’s a way to blame TARP on Obama or Clinton.
Im just a Bill
December 12th, 2012
1:32 pm
Barry
Did you count up those debt dollars under Rs and Ds?
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
1:47 pm
One would be forgiven for suspecting that “Out of here” and “I’m just a Bill” are sockpuppets of the fake Lil’ Barry.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 12th, 2012
1:53 pm
Clinton: Took his eye off the ball and allowed al Qaeda to plan, train for, and deploy the 9/11 hijackers.
Fact: Clinton tried to kill OBL many times and came very very close
Fact: While he was doing so every single Republican accused him of just trying to divert attention from Monica Lewinsky.
Another misinformed Fox News viewer I would assume.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 12th, 2012
1:54 pm
Barry
Did you count up those debt dollars under Rs and Ds?
He doesn’t want to know that answer. It doesn’t fit his very narrow mis informed viewpoint.
AU Liberal in ATL
December 12th, 2012
1:58 pm
One thing to say to Stephenson Billings: You are a moron.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
1:59 pm
Fact: Clinton had eight years to do something about OBL, did next to nothing, and handed a ticking time bomb to his successor.
CC
December 12th, 2012
2:01 pm
LBB:
Didn’t Clinton bomb an aspiran factory?
AU Liberal in ATL
December 12th, 2012
2:04 pm
I hate paying property taxes more than anything. I HATE it. HATE it, HATE it. But, I also understand it. We as a country could not survive without taxes. There are so many things we take for granted which are paid for by taxes. Think of it as a necessary evil and learn to live with it. It’s a fact of life that is not going away. Concentrate your energy where you might be able to affect some positive change and stop your damn whining.The President won, he’s in charge, he will win this battle and it will have little if any impact on the vast majority of you hateful morons. So, grow up and shut up.
JamVet
December 12th, 2012
2:07 pm
Didn’t Clinton bomb an aspiran (sic) factory?
(And how many even quasi-literate adults are capable of misspelling the word aspirin???)
Yep and he also ended genocide in Europe without losing one single solitary American life, cc.
To that extent, he is the anti-George W. Bush…
Im just a Bill
December 12th, 2012
2:15 pm
LLB
Well except for yourself no one on this blog ever stated that they thought you were too bright…. And you do not disappoint
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
2:23 pm
Im just a Bill: except for yourself
——————-
Link please.
Im just a Bill
December 12th, 2012
2:25 pm
A link for what no one stated…
You do not disappoint, you don’t
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
2:29 pm
Another unsubstantiated claim from sockpuppet…typical.
CC
December 12th, 2012
2:29 pm
“(And how many even quasi-literate adults are capable of misspelling the word aspirin???)”
I’m almost sure that I’m the only one, JamVet. Of course, not all of us are as brilliant as you. It must be a terrible burden to bear having to blog with such inferior creatures as I, and I admire you for your tenacity! You are indeed my hero!
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
2:32 pm
In a survey conducted by The Hill in February, 61 percent of likely voters said the top tax rate should be 25 percent or less, a rate that is substantially lower than the present top rate, demonstrating majority support for lowering taxes below what they are today. Fully 88 percent said the top rate should be at the current 35 percent, or less.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2012/12/11/public_support_for_tax_increases_is_a_myth_297642.html
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More evidence that Obozo voters are ignorant of what’s happening in the reality-based segment of society, as if any were needed.
Im just a Bill
December 12th, 2012
2:33 pm
Cc
Well you could have picked LLB, Tibs or even yourself
At least you didn’t lower your standards
Im just a Bill
December 12th, 2012
2:35 pm
Hope that poll wasn’t conducted by Rasmussen, Gallup, Rove or Morris
We know how accurate those were last month
Hahahahahaha
JamVet
December 12th, 2012
2:42 pm
cc, do not flatter yourself with martyrdom.
You dodged the salient point in my post – my contention that Bush 43 was a horrifically incompetent commander-in-chief.
Don’t shoot the messenger…
Linda`
December 12th, 2012
2:48 pm
I think Lil’ Barry is brilliant!
curious
December 12th, 2012
3:05 pm
What’s the latest total of job losses due to;
1-Obamacare
2-Tax increases
3-Obama re-election?
Industries and their lobbyists are strong on “sky is falling” when anything comes along, except payless.
Hopeful
December 12th, 2012
3:16 pm
In the Bible Jesus pay taxes
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
3:16 pm
Dunno, curious, but we do know that unemployment is as high today as it was four years ago when Obozo took office, even though the recession ended in June 2009. We also know that the proportion of Americans who work for a living has dropped to historic lows.
Not exactly a stirring argument for Obozo’s job-creating abilities.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
3:18 pm
Thanks Linda! Looks like we got us a mutual admiration society!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 12th, 2012
3:25 pm
Im still trying to figure out why a sock puppet like ” I’m just a Bill” is still able to post. . .
Kyle? Any answers? This Guy certainly posts like a previously banned sock puppet.
CC
December 12th, 2012
3:27 pm
“cc, do not flatter yourself with martyrdom.”
“martyrdom” was never my intent: I found no sarcasm font to use.
“You dodged the salient point in my post – my contention that Bush 43 was a horrifically incompetent commander-in-chief.”
That is YOUR opinion. His predecessor did not deal with the terrorists and set the stage for the attack on the Trade Center. More people died in that attack than died at Pearl Harbor. America was NOT attacked on American soil during the remainder of President Bush’s term. Your true hero Obama can’t make that statement just as he can’t claim a single new job created since he became president, has an inflation rate we have not experienced in quite some time, has indebted the U. S. by an additional $6 trillion in under four years and is currently running well above #1 trillion deficits WITH NO IMPROVEMENT IN THE ECONOMY. Let us not forget the albatross known as ObamaCare and the gutting of the Medicare program. Obama’s strong suit has been class and racial warfare and the redistribution of wealth.
And you dare call President Bush “a horrifically incompetent commander-in-chief”?
You are either a totally incompetent judge of history and politicians or you are very stupid. Which is it?
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
3:29 pm
Tib, it’s gotta be like whack-a-mole dealing with the various sockpuppets.
curious
December 12th, 2012
3:33 pm
Just attempting to get an update. It was just after the election when people starting announcing layoffs ala Hostess, some oil guy out west, etc.
Doesn’t seem to be in the news so much these days.
What happened to that oil guy and how many loss their job, anyway?
Im just a Bill
December 12th, 2012
3:35 pm
You guys love your conspiracies….
Just like the over sampling by the pollsters conspiracy last month
Hahahahaha
As always, thanks for the belly laughs
Linda`
December 12th, 2012
3:45 pm
Hopeful@3:16, The Bible says to tithe 10%. If God can get by on a measly 10%, why is the govt. entitled to 50%?
The Bible asks for 10% from each & every person. Why should more productive people be punished for being productive? Why should less productive people not participate in financing the govt. & therefore have a financial interest in its effectiveness & effiency?
In Biblical times, were taxes paid on production or consumption?
CC
December 12th, 2012
3:51 pm
This is interesting reading – just in case someone missed it!
http://american3rdposition.com/?p=8416
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 12th, 2012
3:57 pm
Well, curious, it’s obvious you’re busy researching that whole issue, so please do let us know what you learn!
JamVet
December 12th, 2012
4:20 pm
cc, I do love you Bushbots. Still trying desperately to pretend that he was not one of the five worst presidents ever.
With friends like you, the GOP doesn’t even need any enemies.
Keep up the great work…