DeMint to leave Senate; 2014 now even more interesting
Just when it looked like Georgia’s 2014 GOP primary might attract the most national attention, with Sen. Saxby Chambliss facing a likely challenge from his right, South Carolina upped the ante significantly. Jim DeMint, the Palmetto State’s arch-conservative senator, said today he is resigning his seat to take over as leader of the Heritage Foundation.
Initial reports are that South Carolina law calls for the governor to appoint DeMint’s replacement, who would then stand for election in 2014. The state’s other senator, Lindsey Graham, is also up for re-election that year and there’s speculation that he’ll also be challenged by another Republican. That could make for quite a twin-bill in South Carolina’s 2014 GOP primary — not to mention that Gov. Nikki Haley faces some dissension from within her own ranks and might not cruise to re-election herself. Graham and even Chambliss might be breathing a little easier this morning, knowing the activists’ attention and money will now be spread around a little more widely.
Meanwhile, all eyes will be on Haley for her choice as DeMint’s replacement. DeMint is renowned as one of the Senate’s most conservative members and a leader for the tea-party senators elected since 2010. While the Senate will remain under Democratic control for at least two more years, the difference between a replacement as ideologically firm as DeMint and one closer to Graham could loom large — particularly given Democrats’ threatened reform of the filibuster.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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Hillbilly D
December 6th, 2012
11:15 am
The South Carolinians can worry about that. It’s no business of mine.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 6th, 2012
11:17 am
Let the Republican party civil war begin.
In South Carolina no less.
This is their Fort Sumter.
Rafe Hollister
December 6th, 2012
11:22 am
Tim Scott would be a good choice, as the critics point out the GOP needs minorities. Of course, we know with the lap dog media, black conservatives, the true extreme minority in this country, don’t count.
arnold
December 6th, 2012
11:46 am
DeMint sees the handwriting on the wall. He’s bailing now rather than later. It’s just the start as the pendulum picks up speed to the left.
Kyle Wingfield
December 6th, 2012
11:49 am
arnold @ 11:46: It’s not as if he’s leaving Washington. President of the Heritage Foundation is probably one of the best, most influential jobs in D.C. (as being the head of any of the biggest think tanks would be), and it’s certainly one of the best, most influential jobs in the conservative movement.
clem
December 6th, 2012
11:50 am
glad demented is going
Jefferson
December 6th, 2012
11:52 am
He deserves a 50% tax rate.
Bruno
December 6th, 2012
11:56 am
Fresh from yahoo.com:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/poll-public-trusts-obama-dems-solve-fiscal-cliff-144612703–politics.html
It appears that the Dems don’t really care about solving any of our problems as long as they can continue blaming the Republicans. Pathetic.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 6th, 2012
12:00 pm
Wonder how many women or minorities they have over there at the Heritage Foundation ?
My guess not very many.
clem
December 6th, 2012
12:02 pm
how ironic, deminto going to heritage the original health care individual mandate crowd
JDW
December 6th, 2012
12:05 pm
Well one thing is for sure…no matter who takes his place it will be an improvement.
BW
December 6th, 2012
12:07 pm
One less conservative who contributing nothing in the way of legislating….he can now throw bombs from a position meant for it
JDW
December 6th, 2012
12:08 pm
@Kyle…”it’s certainly one of the best, most influential jobs in the conservative movement.”
Might be but it is a step down from Senator.
MrLiberty
December 6th, 2012
12:15 pm
Graham is a bloodthirsty, warmongering big government liberal. Just like Chambliss. The best hope for america’s future will be if both of them lose their primary challenges. What a shame that DeMint is leaving. While certainly no champion of liberty and the constitution like Ron Paul, he was on the right side more than not. Clearly when you oppose the spineless, big government leadership of the party they make you pay. He finally said enough is enough. Hopefully he will put his time at Heritage to good use promoting freedom and liberty (that would be something new for them).
I can’t help but wonder if the warning signs of the impending collapse were this obvious before the Roman Empire fell???
Auntie Christ
December 6th, 2012
12:16 pm
strom thurmond’s corpse should still be available. It represented the state well from about 1980 til it was put in the ground in 2003. My guess tho is that ole joe ‘you lie’ wilson will do the job of representing the racist, backward, red neck interests of that unreconstructed state just fine. But it is all speculation anyway until the koch brothers make their choice of who they are going to purchase for the seat. I wonder if the uninformed tea partiers realize what it means for the economies of the two states if they send freshman senators from GA and SC to DC in 2014, when cuts in the DoD are being demanded. Freshman senators will have no power to fight cuts in spending to their state’s economies that rely heavily on DoD contracts. Isakson who lives walking distance from Lockheed had no juice to stop them from shipping jobs to TX. Georgia’s power to get those contracts will be diluted further when the tea party sends a new guy to DC, ditto SC with two new guys trying to keep bases open and contracts coming. Be careful what you wish for tea party.
nathan's political arsonist
December 6th, 2012
12:19 pm
and john “nra” bulloch just resigned from the senate. chip the sports bookie, demint, now buloch. please let balfour be next, and please keep them rolling
MarkV
December 6th, 2012
12:22 pm
While there are several people in the Senate competing for that description, it is not easy to name anyone as contemptible as DeMint. Good riddance, no matter what position he will take elsewhere.
Kyle Wingfield
December 6th, 2012
12:30 pm
Cheesy @ 12:00: My guess is you couldn’t name the first person who works at Heritage, beyond DeMint and possibly the man he’s replacing (though I’d almost be willing to bet you couldn’t name him without Googling). So you’re not exactly a good source. I can think of several women and minorities at Heritage right off the top of my head, and I’ve never worked in D.C.
Kyle Wingfield
December 6th, 2012
12:32 pm
JDW @ 12:08: He already said he was not going to run again in 2016. So, I can understand why he’d prefer to forgo the last three years of his term and take such a plum job. And it’s not as if there aren’t plenty of conservative choices in S.C. to replace him.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 6th, 2012
12:33 pm
Nicki will select herself.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 6th, 2012
12:35 pm
you couldn’t name the first person who works at Heritage,
Yeah, thank god some people realize the Heritage Foundation puts out idiotic crap as “serious research.”
Road Scholar
December 6th, 2012
12:38 pm
Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank….isn’t that an oxymoron?
arnold
December 6th, 2012
12:41 pm
I still stand by my earlier comment. “He’s bailing now rather than later.” It’s not going to be fun for the remaining GOP for the foreseeable future. So why not go where he doesn’t have to answer for his beliefs?
Jefferson
December 6th, 2012
12:43 pm
Attack the poster if you don’t like his message.
Kyle Wingfield
December 6th, 2012
12:45 pm
John Q @ 12:36: “seeking to mold the country into what you believe to be a better version of itself”
Arguably, he can do that better from Heritage than he can from the minority party in the Senate. So if that’s his top priority, he’s being completely consistent and principled.
Steve
December 6th, 2012
12:46 pm
Why don’t you Confederates form a third party and be done with it. We know you hate the Grand Old Party.
Steve
December 6th, 2012
12:50 pm
Correction – “betterment of the wealthy.”
Kyle Wingfield
December 6th, 2012
12:51 pm
John Q @ 12:49: ” You think Demented is doing this for the betterment of his country. I think Demented is doing this for the betterment of himself. Only one of us is right”
He can’t do something that’s better for him and for the country at the same time? That’s nonsense.
Kyle Wingfield
December 6th, 2012
12:52 pm
Steve: Given the quotation marks, I’m assuming you lifted that passage about Scrooge McDuck from someone else. If you want to re-post it, provide some attribution and a link.
CC
December 6th, 2012
12:53 pm
Rafe:
“Tim Scott would be a good choice”
I agree with you down the line on this, and Scott would face the same ridicule and ire from the dimwit democrats that West faced. A black conservative fares far worse than even a white conservative, but our time will come again. When the democrats gave driven the wheels off, totally trashed the economy, unemployment is even higher, trillions more borrowed and there finally is no money to be redistributed, the electorate will turn the whole mess over to the conservatives.
I heard a very interesting (although not surprising) comment last night from someone who has been traveling around the country meeting with groups of small business owners. While Obama says the economy is poised to move, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESES SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS POSED THE SAME QUESTION, “Can we survive another four years of Obama and the democrats?”
Steve
December 6th, 2012
12:54 pm
Here you go:
http://www.salon.com/2011/06/23/lyons_republicans_dogma/
“The Heritage Foundation, in turn, is one of those Scrooge McDuck-style “think tanks” largely funded by right-wing billionaires like the late Joseph Coors and the Koch brothers. Its “resident scholars” churn out one half-baked study after another proving that economic prosperity depends upon plutocrats paying little or no taxes.
See, like Uncle Scrooge, some of these jokers are pathologically addicted to hoarding. It’s not enough that the top 1 percent of income earners in the United States own 40 percent of the nation’s wealth. They’d really like it all.”
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
December 6th, 2012
12:58 pm
I thought obozocare came from Heritage?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 6th, 2012
12:59 pm
Mexican Supreme Court rules for marriage equality
Soon we libs will be in charge from the North Pole down to Antarctica. Canada wsa the first and the blocks will keep on falling.
mwuahahahahahahaha
Kyle Wingfield
December 6th, 2012
1:00 pm
Aesop @ 12:58: The idea for an individual mandate — not the rest of Obamacare — did come from Heritage. But Heritage disavowed it years before Obama (or Romney) put it in place.
CC
December 6th, 2012
1:01 pm
Rafe:
“When the democrats gave driven the wheels off” should read “When the democrats have driven the wheels off”.
Sorry . . .
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 6th, 2012
1:06 pm
Like DeMint, Karl Rove took the fall at Fox News. Just watch – he will be back on in 6 months.
Steve
December 6th, 2012
1:06 pm
Life is liberal, not conservative.
HDB
December 6th, 2012
1:06 pm
CC
December 6th, 2012
12:53 pm
Rafe:
“Tim Scott would be a good choice”
I agree with you down the line on this, and Scott would face the same ridicule and ire from the dimwit democrats that West faced. A black conservative fares far worse than even a white conservative, but our time will come again.”
Tim Scott wouldn’t get the same treatment as Allen West did because West was just certifiable!! The question many conservatives should be asking is why there aren’t MORE black conservatives; is it because that the preponderance of black people recognize that political conservatism is based on a racist paradigm that is pervasive in the GOP….that has ben recognized by past GOP Chairmen (Lee Atwater, Ken Mehlman, Michael Steele)…. that black people have been told EXPRESSLY that “black people have no place in the GOP” (Kevin Phillips, architect of the “Southern Strategy”)….and the reason that black conservatives get railed against is that they REFUSE to SEE AND ADMIT that racism in the GOP still exists??
What say you???
Steve
December 6th, 2012
1:10 pm
Actually, John, Heritage did disavow it before Obama. Not sure about Romney.
CC
December 6th, 2012
1:11 pm
Steve@12:54:
You think your source is objective?
“Is Salon more tabloid-like? Yeah, we’ve made no secret of that. I’ve said all along that our formula here is that we’re a smart tabloid. If by tabloid what you mean is you’re trying to reach a popular audience, trying to write topics that are viscerally important to a readership, whether it’s the story about the mother in Houston who drowned her five children or the story on the missing intern in Washington, Chandra Levy.”
“Salon is a progressive liberal online magazine, with content updated each weekday.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salon_(website)
Post again when you have something far more authoritative . . .
Wipe Out
December 6th, 2012
1:13 pm
Rove and Morris can’t seem to get booked as of late……
hmmmmmmmmmm
Thomas Heyward Jr
December 6th, 2012
1:17 pm
Senator Demint Voted “Yea” for NDAA (indefinite detention of U.S. citizens, no Trial).
.
Although he had a good fiscal voting record……he’s still a traitor…..and should stand trial accordingly.
(along with our two senators).
.
Good riddance.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 6th, 2012
1:25 pm
Here is the idea: A tax of less than half a percent on every $100 of stock sales or sales of other financial instruments including bonds, derivatives, and options. The tax could raise anywhere from $170 billion to $350 billion per year depending how it was applied. Extend that over 10 years, and we are raising almost what the White House and Republicans agree needs to be raised in order to accomplish the objectives of a grand bargain.
from Eliot Spitzer
http://www.alternet.org/economy/eliot-spitzer-tax-traders-it-would-solve-economic-crisis-and-stop-reckless-activity
bluecoat
December 6th, 2012
1:36 pm
If the wheels were given.The democrats would have done the giving.The more demits from the pugs the better.
md
December 6th, 2012
1:38 pm
“It’s not enough that the top 1 percent of income earners in the United States own 40 percent of the nation’s wealth.”
In a global economy, there really is no such thing as 40% of the wealth. The mythical pie that gets cut into pieces is a myth and far too many eat that stuff up.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 6th, 2012
1:40 pm
2.5: The percentage of actual small businesses that would be hit by rates going up on income over $250,000. Republicans say protecting small businesses in the main reason they oppose raising rates on the wealthy.
237: Number of the country’s wealthiest 400 people who count as “small business owners” under the broad definition Republicans use. Obama and Mitt Romney would both count.
http://www.salon.com/2012/12/06/the_gops_bad_fiscal_cliff_hand_by_the_numbers/
2.5, did you read that? 2.5% = the percentage of small business whose owners would be hit by increasing rates on $250k and higher.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 6th, 2012
1:42 pm
I guess Spitzer would be more acceptable in Con circles if he had a habit of hanging out in airport bathrooms?
tap….tap…..tap…..tap…..psst
Aquagirl
December 6th, 2012
1:45 pm
A conservative Senator resigning to head up a conservative think tank is a win for conservatives? Sing it, Kyle! I hope this idea is widely read and accepted!
Auntie Christ
December 6th, 2012
1:54 pm
CC
December 6th, 2012
12:53 pm
When the democrats gave driven the wheels off, totally trashed the economy, unemployment is even higher, trillions more borrowed and there finally is no money to be redistributed,……
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You do realize I hope, that you just described gw bush’s tenure in the White House. If you don’t see that, then I hope you have found someone to dress you each day, because clearly, you haven’t the capacity to do it yourself.
Kyle Wingfield
December 6th, 2012
1:55 pm
Aquagirl @ 1:45: Where did I say such a thing?
CC
December 6th, 2012
2:04 pm
Auntie Christ:
“You do realize I hope, that you just described gw bush’s tenure in the White House.”
That’s your opinion, and you are entitled to it. We both know what opinions are like, don’t we? I can dress myself, thank you very much, but you might give some serious thought to finding someone to think for you because you obviously have problems in that area.
Linda
December 6th, 2012
2:04 pm
Dr. Martin Luther King was a Republican & Democrats have always been & are still racists.
http://runslave.blogspot.com/search?q=Martin+Luther+King+Republican
Glenn
December 6th, 2012
2:07 pm
Well so much for the GOP and this new “broader ” appeal . How can this not be viewed as doubling down on unpopularity ?
I now feel sorry for John Boehner ,
Linda
December 6th, 2012
2:15 pm
Democrats are racists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwqhoVIh65k
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 6th, 2012
2:17 pm
Dr. Martin Luther King was a Republican & Democrats have always been & are still racists.
Utter nonsense.
Lincoln would not be a Republican today and the South went Republican soon after LBJ signed the civil rights bill giving African Americans equal rights.
Just look at the leadership of the two parties. 19 of 20 in the Republican party are white males.
Then look at the Democrats. Very diverse and much more in line with America.
Its obvious what is going on.
Auntie Christ
December 6th, 2012
2:18 pm
CC
December 6th, 2012
2:04 pm
That’s your opinion, and you are entitled to it.
**********************************************************************
What I said was fact not opinion. Go back and read the new reports from Sep and Oct 08, 1 Million jobs a months lost, the Dow losing 500-700 points a day, a Trillion plus in Tarp money requested, major bank failures, and on and on, one catastrophe after another, on top of bush’s catastrophic useless war and his handling of Katrina. Those are facts, not opinion and no amount of tea party wet dreaming is going to erase them.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 6th, 2012
2:26 pm
http://www.heritage.org/about/staff?positions=%22Senior+Management%22
Your right Kyle. Pretty diverse group over there.
Reminds me of a line from the “Blues Brothers” movie.
Elwood: What kind of music do you usually have here?
Claire: Oh, we got both kinds. We got country *and* western.
Kind of like Fox News. They present both sides too.
The Republican side and the conservative side.
LOL.
@@
December 6th, 2012
2:36 pm
I’d go with Trey Gowdy as DeMint’s replacement. He presents himself with articulate passion. Not sure what’s goin’ on with his hair though. It has those “Something about Mary” moments.
ODD OWL
December 6th, 2012
2:37 pm
Aaaaaahhhhh The Democrats are experiencing the thrill of victory, while the Republicans are tormented by the agony of defeat… Jim DeMinted is one of the first rats to jump off the sinking ship… Very soon it will become a torrent… Tea Party Tim Scott is not an acceptable replacement to fill Jim DeMint’s Senate seat… African-American Democrats view Tim Scott as a Big House, who is willing to sell his race down the river for a fist full of dollars and a small measure of power… Democrats will oppose Tim Scott’s appointment vigorously… Gov. Nicky Haley should appoint herself to the seat… She don’t have a future as Gov. anyway, because South Carolina will go Democrat Blue in 2014… Did Johnny “one note” Boehner cave on that fiscal cliff issue yet ??? The President will begin his well deserved and much needed Christmas vacation in Hawaii around December 20th and he will not return to Washington until January 5th, 2013…
Dusty
December 6th, 2012
2:40 pm
Well, another success story for South Carolina. I grew up there and it is one fine state. They selected a smart woman and made her governor. No surprise there. They believe in telling the truth and you better believe it when they tell you something.
The people of South Carolina are proud of their state and don’t personally like to” tear down” their own fine state (unlike liberals in Georgia who diminish their own state for politics).They are not afraid to say what they believe in and foremost in that belief is a free country with independence as the best of qualitites.
So, good luck to Mr. DeMint in his efforts to secure our heritage. And may Gov. Haley send the best and the strongest in mind and spine to the Senate. They could use a little help in subduing the nincompoops of Washington, D.C.
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
December 6th, 2012
2:48 pm
Spare Tim Scott the liberal lynch mob, already.
Glenn
December 6th, 2012
2:53 pm
@ Odd Owl
Its moderates who are going to feel defeat . The Heritage Foundation is the modern conservative voice . Thus the voice of FOX news . The Heritage Foundation is the actual spin factory . Think Benghazi & leftwing hypocrisy . Jim DeMint now gets to talk his crazy Tea Party conservatism without having to pretend he cares about his constituents . He also gets a MASSIVE raise .
Tim Scott will get the seat if for no other reason than because he is black . That’s just the game of politics .
getalife
December 6th, 2012
2:59 pm
The tea party had it’s “Waterloo” and are dead.
If you can’t beat him cons, join him.
Glenn
December 6th, 2012
2:59 pm
Dusty , South Carolina is a welfare state dependent on federal money . Your state only brings in two thirds of what it receives in federal coin . There is nothing independent about South Carolina . Because South Carolina is the least educated state people like Jim Demint can thrive . Don’t worry Dusty . We will keep our hands off your medicaid .
@@
December 6th, 2012
3:05 pm
African-American Democrats view Tim Scott as a Big House, who is willing to sell his race down the river for a fist full of dollars and a small measure of power
Obama beat him to it. Today’s black unemployment is what….15.5%? Almost double that of whites.
Dusty
December 6th, 2012
3:08 pm
Sooooo, GLENN, you don’ tthink a black man can be smart enough to go to the Senate. That shows how smart you are.
As to the present Tea Party, they are the second in tea parties. Tthe first threw boxes of tea overboard in defiance of overtaxing without representation. The present Tea Party is an effort to return our government to the fairness of its Constitutional foundation.
It seems that you don’t have a taste for tea parties. Stay in your shell and watch the world turn, as long as it turns for YOU. Try,also, to adjust to the fact that some people can honestly earn MASSIVE salaries.
I don’t doubt that you
jconservative
December 6th, 2012
3:12 pm
Kyle, if you are still checking the blog. Please check any sources you have in S. C. re Haley naming a “care taker” type to hold the seat until she runs for the seat in 2014 when her term as governor is up.
And I understand her approval rating is shaky at about 40% as I recall.
Dusty
December 6th, 2012
3:16 pm
Glenn
You are the one who knows all about Medicaid. Our family is self supporting. Don’t get mad because South Carolina is a fine state. Your musings have no interest to me or them. Your prejudice is noted and found to be ignorance.
Steve
December 6th, 2012
3:19 pm
Dusty, aside from Charleston and Greenville, when you drive through that state it’s a wasteland of poverty. But hey, the rich are doing quite well there in their enclaves…
Glenn
December 6th, 2012
3:20 pm
Dusty
Me and your beloved South Carolina are dependent on the Federal government . I and the people of South Carolina would be living off rat meat if it wasn’t for the federal government Dusty . Luckily we both get to take more than we put in and still feel entitled to whatever misguided pride we might feel .
If you read again I stated quite clearly he would get the nomination due to THE GAME OF POLITICS . If Jim DeMint was intelligent enough for South Carolina I believe anyone could represent your state .
Kyle Wingfield
December 6th, 2012
3:23 pm
jconservative @ 3:12: I’m not all that plugged-in in S.C. I have not read anything from anyone who is in the loop there suggesting she might want to do as you speculate. More likely, she’d want to weigh whether a placeholder senator, leading to two wide-open senatorial primaries, would help her re-election chances that year.
Cherokee
December 6th, 2012
3:34 pm
“I heard a very interesting (although not surprising) comment last night from someone who has been traveling around the country ”
Sure you did….
Ray
December 6th, 2012
3:37 pm
This indicates how ridiculous, or at least totally non-mainstream, the Heritage Foundation is more than anything else. I don’t know how anyone other than an arch-conservative can take anything or any “study” by the Heritage Foundation seriously with a guy like DeMint running it.
Politico
December 6th, 2012
3:44 pm
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Black unemployment has always run at a higher rate than whites or the overall percentage.
Has it always been a concern for you or since Obama has been in office? If before Obama, when did you mention it and what have you done about it?
JamVet
December 6th, 2012
3:52 pm
Well, since he can’t go back to the 1950’s where he belongs, I guess the Heritage Foundation is his next best move…
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
4:23 pm
DeMint is fine as a fiscal conservative, but too extreme on the social side.
As for Haley, everyone’s approval rating lowers in non-election years, so if she chooses to run she’ll be ok.
Dusty
December 6th, 2012
4:32 pm
Glenn & Steve
If I want to drive through a waste land of poverty and foreclosures and unemployment I would ride through Detroil (for your benefit ,that is not S.C.). Or you could ride all the way through Nevada and reach the fading Las Vegas which probably has the only gas stations in the state. Or hike through the wrong side of Chicago and see if you come through healthy.
The South is beautiful bliss. That’s why you hang around, isn’t it?.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 6th, 2012
4:38 pm
The South is beautiful bliss. That’s why you hang around, isn’t it?.
The south is mostly poor with the lowest education levels in the country.
( Believe me it shows )
If not for the rest of the US the south would quickly turn into a Theocracy with the Baptist church and the state merging. It would soon be a third world country.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 6th, 2012
4:39 pm
Don’t get mad because South Carolina is a fine state.
The home state of Strom Thurmond.
Truly a great American.
“all the laws of Washington and all the bayonets of the Army cannot force the ***** into our homes, into our schools, our churches and our places of recreation and amusement.”
- Strom Thurmond
Saddest part is if he were alive and ran for his old seat he would win in a landslide.
Politico
December 6th, 2012
4:41 pm
Dusty
Nice try, but even with Detroit, MI is way ahead of SC in college grads, GDP, per capita income and the list goes on
But thanks for trying
Your efforts are noted
Glenn
December 6th, 2012
4:43 pm
I do like the south Dusty .
I have lived in Georgia , Connecticut , & Iowa . I have lived in a liberal state , a conservative state , & a middle of the road state . They all had things I liked and disliked about them . I believe it has made me look at politics from all angles or maybe just removed from ideology .
I even like South Carolina . Charleston is one of my favorite cities . Me and a group of friends even go golfing every summer on Kiawah Island . I just think that even with its faults our government gets a bad rap . I’m heading home .
Enjoy your holidays Dusty : )
Lynnie Gal
December 6th, 2012
4:54 pm
Curious timing for DeMint since he just railed against Boehner two days ago. It looks like Boehner is getting rid of the crazies. Speaking of crazy–this statement: “Graham is a bloodthirsty, warmongering big government liberal. Just like Chambliss” written by one of the right-wingers on this site is evidence that the Republican party is about to split between the TP crazies and the more reasonable moderates in the party. Don’t see how the party will survive these extremists. Meanwhile–bye, buy Jim D…
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
December 6th, 2012
4:57 pm
Congress Works to Scrub Word ‘Lunatic’ From Federal Law…
So how will we address joe biden?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
5:01 pm
Lynnie Gal, in case you missed it (and of course you did) Boehner is in the House and DeMint in the Senate.
Boehner has no power in the Senate.
None.
JamVet
December 6th, 2012
5:04 pm
Lynnie, here is to hoping you are correct.
And if they won’t, the people will.
Right Mssrs, Allen, West, Walsh, Mourdoch and Akin?
Good riddance and good luck in the private sector…
Dusty
December 6th, 2012
5:08 pm
Cheesy & Politico
Amid all your sqawking, you still haven’t said why you still HANG AROUND our lovely South.
If I felt like you, I surely would be enjoying the pleasures of delightful thriving Detroit or the newness & glory of Nevada not to mention the charm of chilly crime-ridden Chicago.
Indeed, you are really missing out Could it be that you don’t fit in with all that”education” you mentioned and those great job opportunities?
At least be honest like Glenn. He hangs around to play golf! That’s as good excuse as any I suppose. Only the rest of us just love the place (except for a few uncouth ignoramuses).
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
5:11 pm
Lets start a poll on how many times AmVet can post the same thing every day. . .
JamVet
December 6th, 2012
5:13 pm
Let’s start a poll and see if one single day goes by without tibs obsessing over me…
Schnort.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
5:13 pm
Of course, the easiest answer to the poll would be every other post. AmVet hasn’t had an original thought since 1972.
Dusty
December 6th, 2012
5:14 pm
Keep ‘em corrected, Tiberius. Sometimes liberals don’t read their instructions correctly.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
5:18 pm
One doesn’t obsess over something so insignificant, AmVet.
One just points out the all too many errors.
Dusty
December 6th, 2012
5:20 pm
Now now let’s ;not be to too hard on AmVet. After all, it’s probably the old PTSD that bothers him. WWII was tough!
getalife
December 6th, 2012
5:22 pm
He looked humbled on cnn today.
The gop are purging their cons like the ME purging their dictators.
Politico
December 6th, 2012
5:26 pm
Big ole Dust
Why hang around the US?
After all you have been crying and whining since the 08 election..
Just saying
@@
December 6th, 2012
5:28 pm
Politico:
Apologies for the late response.
I’ve always wanted success for the black community….we all stand to benefit when they do.
What I’m tired of witnessing is the dem party’s “soft bigotry of low expectations”.
It’s hard to succeed when the party that represents “their” cause is telling ‘em they can’t do it without government help.
JamVet
December 6th, 2012
5:30 pm
Poor tibs, he doesn’t have to read my posts, of course.
But I told him many months ago that he will read them. All of them.
And he complies and complains.
But the poor soul can’t help himself…
saywhat?
December 6th, 2012
5:30 pm
Dusty
December 6th, 2012
2:40 pm
“Well, another success story for South Carolina. I grew up there and …..”
that explains ALOT.
“They believe in telling the truth and you better believe it when they tell you something.”
Who knew the Appalachian trail ran through Argentina?
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 6th, 2012
5:30 pm
What I’m tired of witnessing is the dem party’s “soft bigotry of low expectations”.
It’s hard to succeed when the party that represents “their” cause is telling ‘em they can’t do it without government help.
Total nonsense but often parroted response.
JamVet
December 6th, 2012
5:35 pm
As for the Chambliss, he can only hope that enough tea soaked Georgia dolts pretend he is not moving toward the center and vote him solely because he has an R after his name. (They will and he knows it.).
Hi Dusty.
Hows the broom?
I saw the new Geico commercial with you in it!
saywhat?
December 6th, 2012
5:41 pm
In Dusty’s defense, there is at least a few good things about South Carolina-
1) they invented the toothbrush. If it had been invented anywhere else, they would have called it the teethbrush.
2) The University of SC recently discovered a new use for sheep,……………wool.
3)They save money by having Clemson football players wear orange uniforms. They can play football on Saturday, and pick up trash on the side of the highway the other 6 days a week.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 6th, 2012
5:42 pm
Saxby Chambliss
A man who actually called Max Cleland Un-American while ignoring the fact that Cleland left several limbs fighting for his country in Vietnam while Silver Spoon Saxby sat on his rear.
Id kind of like to see him get eaten by his own. He deserves it.
getalife
December 6th, 2012
5:43 pm
The gop decided you cons are the problem and tossed you under the bus.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
5:45 pm
Absolutely correct, AmVet, however NO ONE has to read your posts, because reading one is like reading any of them.
Not an original post from you (or thought) in over 30 years.
Politico
December 6th, 2012
5:46 pm
Jamvet
Tiberius will probably ignore you tonight to pretend he doesn’t react like a child to your posts. Tomorrow he will be right back to the tried and true
Politico
December 6th, 2012
5:48 pm
Jam
My bad. You knew better than I that Tiberius has no self control.
He couldn’t let it go.
You called it.
@@
December 6th, 2012
5:51 pm
NO ONE has to read your (AmVet’s) posts, because reading one is like reading any of them.
True THAT!!!!
getalife
December 6th, 2012
5:54 pm
I read them and they are consistent.
You cons are all over the place and lost without a party.
Happy legal weed day.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
5:55 pm
Politico, your faux poutrage is noted.
However, given your error prone posting history, it is also dismissed.
JamVet
December 6th, 2012
5:55 pm
Politico,
And his petulant brat routine has caused him to be a serially banned train wreck.
But he loves the negative attention from me.
(He’s the new @@…)
Dusty
December 6th, 2012
5:57 pm
Hi Amvet,
My broom is just fine.
When do you want your exocism? It’s covered under the Voodoo Section of ObamaCare.
(Pork chops smoking! Bye.).
Johnny Boy says
December 6th, 2012
5:59 pm
Hey Kyle,
You are really attracting a crowd. Means more money for you, more prestige, all the great things that go with attracting such a crowd to your comments !!! You are fairing quite nicely, keep it up.
My only question is, how do you attract so many liberal racist ? How do you get them to not only read (!!) your column, but then they even comment ??? Are all liberal racist democrats so bored or out of work, or both, that they have time to read your stuff and then spew their hurl all over your words ??
Just wondering….. but not wandering…
@@
December 6th, 2012
6:00 pm
But he loves the negative attention from me.
(He’s the new @@…)
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Johnny Boy says
December 6th, 2012
6:02 pm
Hope I didn’t jinx you !!
Get a grip Dems
December 6th, 2012
6:13 pm
John Q – lovin’ livin’ in the Obama boom!!! Says:
December 6th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Oh, I guess a third comment is in order:
3. Boy oh boy oh boy are Regressives two-faced hypocritical unprincipled liars.
John Q!
Obvious that you need to go get back in line as on of the 47% ers that I am busting my ass to support! Wish Libs had constructive comments
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
6:22 pm
And how many times have we seen the “serially banned” comment from the repetitive one?
Not an original thought or post in over 30 years.
And proving it with each successive post.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
6:25 pm
Johnny boy, you don’t have to use liberal racist Democrats in the same sentence.
They’re one in the same.
Politico
December 6th, 2012
6:25 pm
Tiberious
The faux alpha tough blogger wannabe
Since Kyle hasn’t made you official deputy… Go shine your plastic badge and get back to the rest of us….little fella
Maybe CC, LLB and yourself can have a midget mind wrestling contest
Hahahahahahahaha
Quasha
December 6th, 2012
6:28 pm
When South Carolina (and Georgia) Republicans picked Gingrich in the primary it just reinforced how marginal and irrelevant they’ve become.
Maybe the guv will reappoint Strom Thurmond to the Senate – wasn’t he cryogenically preserved?
Politico
December 6th, 2012
6:29 pm
Tiberious
Tell someone to surrender and ask Kyle for your victory prize..
Maybe say “color me shocked”
Oh weak one… Yes I didn’t say wise
Hhahahahahahahah
Get a grip Dems
December 6th, 2012
6:31 pm
What’s a quasha?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
6:31 pm
Politico, you used this same “tough Guy” response to others yesterday on another thread. Your repetitiveness is glaring.
Are you and AmVet related?
Or is this just your canned response when caught in your inevitable errors?
ODD OWL
December 6th, 2012
6:32 pm
What i want to know is when the hell are Nathan “No Show” Deal and the Tea Party crazies who control the Georgia state legislature are going to do something about this 10% unemployment in Georgia… These No Show Deal, tea partying Republicans are lazy, shiftless laggards… Jenkins County have an astronomical unemployment rate of 16.9 %… This is outrageous… Deal need to get off his tail and do something about all of these Georgians being out of work or he and all the Republicans in the legislature must summit their resignation and get the hell out… The unemployment rate has been over 8% for ten years now, ever since that fat clown Sonny “Do What” Perdue became Governor and enriched himself and built his retirement mansion on lake Oconee… The Republicans have become a problem in the state of Georgia… If we Democrats get rid of these Republicans, we can get rid of the problem…
JamVet
December 6th, 2012
6:33 pm
So how many times have you been banned, tibs? And don’t divide by three like you normally do! (grin)
So the Lily White Party – which has LESS than 10% non-white representation- says the liberals are the racists.
Hysterical.
Keep up the good work, boys!
One day all of those stupid, lazy black mooches will see that you really were their best friends!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
6:36 pm
Repetive, AmVet.
But it would be redundant of me to point that out, wouldn’t it?
ODD OWL
December 6th, 2012
6:38 pm
We Democrats are working hard to convince 19 House Republicans to cross the aisle and join the Democrat party, and make Nancy Pelosi Speaker again… Then we could get something done… If not, then We the people will wait until 2014 when the Democrats will sweep all the tea party Republicans out of Congress… Obamanism = Forward…
Politico
December 6th, 2012
6:41 pm
Tiberious
It is an insult, nothing about you is tough….
Name the gym and time, tough guy
Don’t know you but I do love to spar in boxing and kick boxing…
Let me know if you would like to workout sometime… Not so tough guy
Outside of that… Keep being the blathering lonely sole you know yourself to be
Have an awesome night and weekend and don’t forget to get your last not so tough guy word in…… After all, you need an emotional boost of any kind
JamVet
December 6th, 2012
6:41 pm
Tibs wants desperately to be the King of the Mountain here, Politico.
After all it is the only mountain left to him. (He’s been a very bad boy.)
But alas, his maniacal desire to have this place as his little fiefdom is not working out so well for him.
So he has been reduced to almost nothing more than impotent endless sniping.
LOL.
The tide is turning and the trickle downers are in trouble…
More and more Republicans want House leaders to back off their no-higher-taxes-for-the-wealthy war cry and concentrate on a major deal to the costs of Medicare and Social Security, The Washington Post reports.
Meanwhile, a GOP source tells CNN Republicans and the president have agreed the rich will pay more, but how much and what concessions Obama will offer in exchange remain to be hammered out.
By stepping away from their earlier stance, the GOP would be bowing to President Barack Obama, who insists he’s ready to take the plunge over the fiscal cliff unless he’s allowed to raise taxes on the wealthiest 2 percent of taxpayers.
“I and some others are advocating giving the president what he wants,” Ohio Rep. Steven C. LaTourette,’’ told the newspaper, adding that in exchange, a deal must be made to slow the deal federal borrowing reduce the debt up to $5 trillion.
“Quite frankly, some people in this 2 percent who call me, they’re more worried about the fiscal cliff than about the rates going up a couple points. That has bigger risk for them.”
Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), a champion of smaller government, echoed LaTourette.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/gop-boehner-compromise-fiscal/2012/12/06/id/466798
Archibald Leach
December 6th, 2012
6:41 pm
Very sad in America when Kyle says being a lobbyist is “probably one of the best, most influential jobs in D.C.”
Kyle, what do you think of Mitch McConnell filibustering his own bill?
md
December 6th, 2012
6:43 pm
“The gop are purging their cons like the ME purging their dictators.”
Not sure how to interpret that considering the ME seems to be swapping one dictator for another…..from military rule to theocracy, neither is very appealing but the theocracy really sounds scary. The women of Egypt are rightly concerned.
Politico
December 6th, 2012
6:45 pm
Jam
Ole tibs has cotten candy hands and mind
He is a riot, but don’t get him worked up so he gets banned
Outside of Little Brain, he is the best laughs on the AJC blogs
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
6:47 pm
Democrats working hard.
Odd owl, you’re too funny!”!!!
Politico
December 6th, 2012
6:48 pm
Jam
Tibs wanted to be King elsewhere, but that was before my time..
How did that work out?
Did his nasty name calling and attitude get him sent packing or is that AJC blog rumor?
The Kid
December 6th, 2012
6:49 pm
If we have to, we’ll whup the confederates another time for good measure. As you can see, you are slowly being pushed underground anyway. So get your guns and bibles and follow your leaders Rush, Hannity and Beck into oblivion because that’s where you are going. The hate you spew is no different than what the Taliban does in the Middle East. People like Demint and Graham hates the fact that a black man is Pres. Poor McConnell is going to have a heart attack if he doesn’t just go on and quit. A black man president; my word.
md
December 6th, 2012
6:52 pm
Race card, page 3. Is that really all you have?
Politico
December 6th, 2012
7:23 pm
The Republican Senators are falling to the wayside…
They know the inevitable. It is only a foreshadowing before the Republican controlled House melts. Of course it will not be a total meltdown, as Tibs does daily on this blog, however it will be enough in numbers that Obama
will chap that a$$ yet again..
Mark this and call me on it, if it doesn’t occur, but the Repubs in the House are only playing short term PR games…. They already know the end result
@@
December 6th, 2012
7:26 pm
Name the gym and time, tough guy
Unbelievable.
Tibs wanted to be King elsewhere, but that was before my time..
Sure it was. Again…unbelievable.
Politico
December 6th, 2012
7:30 pm
@@
He talks big, but walks small
His problem, not mine..
You know it but for political reasons can’t help yourself but respond
100 shnirts and shnorts
You guys are good when the right talks big on this blog, but can’t handle the response
Oh well… I will sleep good tonight
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
7:37 pm
Its nice to see AmVet and Politico becoming such nice internet buddies instead of their usual searching the web for kiddie porn.
Isn’t that what most libs do with all their free time at the libraries?
@@
December 6th, 2012
7:39 pm
Politico:
His problem, not mine..
Oh contraire! When you challenge him to a physical competition, it would appear you’ve chosen him as YOUR problem.
Pure silliness on your part.
Politico
December 6th, 2012
7:41 pm
Meltdown on the way
What is new?
He has resorted to talking about what he does and projecting onto others…
Such a lonely “President Romney” BOY
Politico
December 6th, 2012
7:45 pm
@@
Oh he is a joke not a problem
A problem takes time to solve..
But play his mommy if it comforts you both
And a workout is what many people do…. Call it a confrontation in your little mind if you must
@@
December 6th, 2012
7:49 pm
Politico:
Go flex your philanges elsewhere.
You’re boring.
Politico
December 6th, 2012
7:50 pm
@@
Holla when you call out Tibs for his meltdown, name calling and bs
Until that time, keep his formula and pacifiers ready as your defense of others who call him out for his bs
Politico
December 6th, 2012
7:52 pm
@@
Wa waaaaaa
Like you always do
CC
December 6th, 2012
7:56 pm
Cherokee@3:34 pm:
Yes, I did . . .
@@
December 6th, 2012
8:01 pm
Like you always do
I thought you were new here.
Wa waaaaaaa?
Bring forth the evidence.
@@
December 6th, 2012
8:07 pm
Politico:
Why should I? I have no problem with meltdowns OR name calling. There’s more than enough bs from both sides.
I DO have a problem with people who complain about name calling. It’s the sticks and stones thingy. Let me know when somebody pokes your eye out with a stick or hits you in the head with a rock. I’ll be there for ‘ya.
Not really. That was bs.
Politico
December 6th, 2012
8:09 pm
@@
Keep whining and let me know when you call out Tibs and other right leaning loud mouths..
You just cry for political stripes. That’s all.
No problem, but your simplicity is what it is.
Now go burp him and give him his last bottle.
Would be much different if you called out folks of all stripes, but you do not and do not have the integrity to do so…. At least not on this blog
Politico
December 6th, 2012
8:13 pm
If you are good with it, why coming running to the defense of your BOY?
Hahahahahahah
Keep whining @@
It is you
Nothing new
It fits, yes the shoe
Cry hard boo hoo hoo
@@
December 6th, 2012
8:14 pm
Would be much different if you called out folks of all stripes, but you do not and do not have the integrity to do so
And I have yet to see you do so, Politico.
So here we are. Now what?
Politico
December 6th, 2012
8:19 pm
@@
You cry and whine for crying and whinings sake..
If that is your life
So be it
Politico
December 6th, 2012
8:22 pm
@@
Besides your whining, your boy is whining… Go change his diaper and have a great weekend
@@
December 6th, 2012
8:24 pm
Politico:
Pointing out your silly bravado isn’t coming to someone’s defense. It’s merely pointing our your silliness. Has he challenged you to a sweat fest at the gym?
@@
December 6th, 2012
8:31 pm
…have a great weekend
You too.
Again, bs. I couldn’t care less how your weekend goes.
@@
December 6th, 2012
8:35 pm
Whoa!
Jeff Jacoby has written an article at The Boston Globe about Grant’s General Order #11. I wonder if josef’s seen it.
Politico
December 6th, 2012
8:36 pm
@@
Your selective condemnation and biased bs is noted..
It is all good go play mommy for him and let me know when you have anything of substance and fact to discuss
@@
December 6th, 2012
8:38 pm
Politico:
If he’s challenged you to a sweat fest at the gym, I’ll call him silly just to satisfy your need.
Fair enough?
Politico
December 6th, 2012
8:41 pm
@@
How Christian?
You must be evangelical
@@
December 6th, 2012
8:49 pm
You must be evangelical
Although, I have no problem with those who choose the evangelical path, I’d have to know what one is before I could be one. Since I don’t, I’m thinkin’ not.
ODD OWL
December 6th, 2012
8:51 pm
The Republican party is in total meltdown… First DeMint quite, then small Dick Armery stole $8 million from freedom Work and high tailed it out of town… Karl Rove has been fired by Fox Fantasy News… Who’s next, Mean Mitch McConnell… He cannot win re-election against Ashley Judd… Wow, wipe out… President Obama and the Democrats are large and in charge… Boehner is trapped between a rock and a hard place… I guess McConnell forgot that he was filibustering his own bill… Go figure !!!
Politico
December 6th, 2012
8:52 pm
@@
And Tibs thanks you for being his mommy
Take care
Linda
December 6th, 2012
8:55 pm
It seems to me that the conservatives on this blog have all been united about the fiscal cliff, the deficit & the debt. It’s the Democrats on this blog that are divided.
There’s 2 types of Democrats on this blog: the Moderates & the Progressives. It’s easy to tell the difference.
The Moderate Democrats seem to agree with the conservatives that the fiscal cliff needs to avoided & that the deficit & debt need to be addressed. The Moderate Democrats & conservatives on this blog disagree only on HOW to fix the problems.
The Progressives seem to disagree with both the conservatives & the Moderate Democrats that the deficits & debt are not a problem & that they need to increase. They will not touch Medicare, etc.
Most of the conservatives & the Moderate Democrats are clueless about the progressives’ agenda.
The progressive presidents were Wilson, FDR, Johnson & now Obama.
There is not a doubt in my mind that the progressives’ agenda is to destroy the USA, i.e. the “transformation of America,” from the free enterprise system to socialism with deficits, debt, nationalization/federalism, economic & social justice, universal health care, unemployment, record numbers of people on govt. assistance as their sole source of income, etc. They must destroy America in order to rebuild it.
There have been numerous books written for decades on the progressive agenda. Their goal is within sight & no, you will not hear this on FOX News.
@@
December 6th, 2012
8:56 pm
Okay! I looked it up…evangelical. While a believer, I’m not a street preacher. I leave that to those better suited for the task.
I adhere to the “dusting off of sandals” command.
@@
December 6th, 2012
8:58 pm
Take care
Of you!!??!!
Done.
schnirt
Politico
December 6th, 2012
9:07 pm
@@
You great Christian?
Keep up what you do, especially on the national political front…
Tibs will have clean diaper and full bottle and you will feel better about yourself..
Aren’t ypu special
Hahahahahahahahaha
Hopeful
December 6th, 2012
10:13 pm
Jim you have my blessing may God be with you!!
ODD OWL
December 6th, 2012
10:25 pm
The socialist Republicans are the ones who ran up the debt and created the deficit… Since 1981 the rebel Republicans ran up $16 trillion worth of debt and Bush/Cheney left President Obama a $1.5 trillion yearly deficit… The Republicans seem to be the socialists… There is only one wing of the Democrat party, the Obama Democrats… Hillary = 2016
Linda
December 6th, 2012
10:50 pm
Poor Odd @ 10:25, You have no idea where you are, i.e. on a conservative blog. How do you expect conservatives will remotely believe your lies?
Wipe Out
December 7th, 2012
12:17 am
Linda
Even conservatives do not believe your lies…..
You are something else. Keep up the not so great work.
ODD OWL
December 7th, 2012
12:22 am
@ Linda 10:50…. Tis Tis Tis… I guess Albert Einstein was right when he said; “The only thing in the world more dangerous than ignorance is arrogance.” Arrogance is ignorance matured… Share the wealth, tax the rich, pay down the debt…
Jack ®
December 7th, 2012
5:57 am
I noticed that someone earlier mentioned the Affordable Care Act. I suggest it be read before anyone sings its praises: Epecially those of you who have fifty or more employees.
Jack ®
December 7th, 2012
6:01 am
I wish I’d said that, Linda.
CC
December 7th, 2012
7:54 am
Today is Pearl Harbor Day. 2,403 people were killed, 18 U. S. ships were either sunk or damaged and over 100 aircraft were destroyed at Hickam Field on this date in 1941 in the Japanese attack on Pearl. America went to war in defense of our nation and the freedoms we cherished. The price paid by Americans in this effort was paid by ALL Americans, military and civilian.
The majority of American voters would now give away freely what generations of Americans fought in many wars to preserve.
Today is both a historic and a sad day . . .
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
8:02 am
Can any of the libs on here explain why President Incompetent insists on raising the rates of the top 2% but not addressing the loopholes and deductions side of things in order to raise revenues?
If you simply raise the rates, the rich will simply do what the always (and rightly) do, which is to find ways to save taxes through different deductions. In other words, you’re not going to get another dime from the rich because their effective rate will never change.
If you address the deductions and loopholes, as the GOP wants, you limit the ways the rich can avoid paying their actual rate, thus raising revenues.
I know the answer to my question, but I’m not going to type it out just yet. Let’s see if the libs on here know why.
CC
December 7th, 2012
8:10 am
Tiberius:
I know the answer, but I’ll wait to see if anyone else posts with it . . .
HDB
December 7th, 2012
8:28 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right
December 6th, 2012
6:25 pm
Johnny boy, you don’t have to use liberal racist Democrats in the same sentence.
They’re one in the same.”
Tibbi…I can say the same thing about conservative, racist Republicans….and there’s substantive PROOF that they are one in the same!!
Do you really want to go there????
JDW
December 7th, 2012
8:28 am
Would you look at that…more Republican hipocrasy…color me surprised…NOT.
“The National Republican Senatorial Committee quietly sent $760,000 to the Missouri Republican Party in early November, just as the state GOP was mounting a last-minute TV ad blitz to boost Rep. Todd Akin’s sagging Senate campaign, according to records released Thursday.”
Why it seems like just yesterday they said…
“When asked in September if the committee would consider reversing course and backing Akin, Texas Sen. John Cornyn, the NRSC chairman, flatly told POLITICO, “We’re done.”
What were they thinking? When asked they said…
“No Comment”
And you wonder why no one trusts them.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/nrsc-sent-late-funds-to-todd-akin-84735.html#ixzz2EN8nq26A
JDW
December 7th, 2012
8:30 am
@Tiberius…”Can any of the libs on here explain why President Incompetent insists on raising the rates of the top 2% but not addressing the loopholes and deductions side of things in order to raise revenues?”
Actually Obama wants to do both…but don’t let that stop a good lie.
HDB
December 7th, 2012
8:34 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
8:02 am
The reasons why BOTH must be done are evident:
1) If you just close the exemptions, you’ll reach the middle class. In order to ensure that the middle class tax exemption is maintained, the RATES need to be increased
2) Economic history showed that the nation achieved optimum economic growth under high tax rates! Note the greatest expansion of the middle class occured under the Eisenhower Administration…and the optimum tax rate was 90%! In recent history, the nation reached optimum economic growth during the Clinton Administratiion where the optimum tax rate was 39.6%. Ronald Reagan had to pass tax increases in order to stimulate the economy during the first recession of his term.
3) The math doesn’t add up by just closing the exemptions!
4) As Willie Sutton said when he was asked why he robbed banks: “…’cause that’s where the money is!” When 10% of the populace controls 90% of the nations’s WEALTH, where should the government go to get necessary increases in funding??
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
8:44 am
“Actually Obama wants to do both…but don’t let that stop a good lie.”
And his proposal containing both can be found – where – JDW?
Doesn’t exist, sonny. But nice try at bailing out President Incompetent.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
8:48 am
HDB, using only tax rates to justify economic expansion and growth are the sign of a desperate attempt to justify President Incompetent’s actions – none of which have worked in the past 4 years.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
8:55 am
I wonder which state didn’t report their numbers this time . . . .
carlosgvv
December 7th, 2012
8:57 am
Looks like this Tea Party rat is one of the first to realize the ship is sinking.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
9:00 am
UNEMPLOYMENT AT 7.7%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wonder what Kyle will write about today ?
I got 5 bucks it wont be about the above.
War on Christmas ? Or maybe Benghazi ?
Agenda 21 ?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
9:02 am
John Q proving once again he knows nothing about sock puppets.
Or anything else for that matter.
JDW
December 7th, 2012
9:06 am
@Tiberius…”And his proposal containing both can be found – where”
Why right on the web for anyone with enough sense to look…oppps cuts you out…guess you need spoon feeding sonny.
CNBC did a nice little synopsis…maybe your reading level can handle it…
“Obama: increase taxes by $1.6 trillion over 10 years, raised by permitting tax rates on individual income exceeding $200,000 and family incoming over $250,000 to return to Clinton-era levels of 36 and 39.6 percent, up from 33 and 35 percent now. Increase taxes on dividend income and reduce the value of deductions and exemptions for those earning above $200,000 and $250,000. Renew the 2 percentage point payroll tax holiday or a similar tax cut for workers. Return taxes on large estates to 2009 levels.”
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100276654
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 7th, 2012
9:11 am
540,000 are so discouraged they’ve left the workforce. There’s your 7.7% unemployment.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 7th, 2012
9:13 am
Obozo’s tax increase on small business will reduce his deficit from $1,100,000,000,000 to $1,020,000,000,000.
yay
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
9:15 am
Specifics, JDW?
I know that doing your own work is foreign to you, but using a general report as a substitute for a specific proposal from the head of the Executive branch isn’t proof.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 7th, 2012
9:21 am
Jobless Rate Falls to 7.7%
“US Economy improves, Conservatives Slash Own Wrists”
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
9:25 am
Jobless Rate Falls to 7.7%
“US Economy improves, Conservatives Slash Own Wrists”
Its truly sad that they hate Obama so much they would rather see America do poorly and people suffer.
John
December 7th, 2012
9:29 am
Taken from the BLS site.
The unemployment rate edged down to 7.7 percent in November. The number of unemployed persons, at 12.0 million, changed little. (See table A-1.)
Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rates for adult men (7.2 percent), adult women (7.0 percent), teenagers (23.5 percent), whites (6.8 percent), and Hispanics (10.0 percent) showed little or no change in November. The unemployment rate for blacks (13.2 percent) declined over the month. The jobless rate for Asians was 6.4 percent (not
seasonally adjusted), little changed from a year earlier. (See tables A-1, A-2, and A-3.)
The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks or more) was little changed at 4.8 million in November. These individuals accounted for 40.1 percent of the unemployed. (See table A-12.)
The civilian labor force participation rate declined by 0.2 percentage point to 63.6 percent in November, offsetting an increase of the same amount in October. Total employment was about unchanged in November, following a combined increase of 1.3 million over the prior 2 months. The employment-population ratio, at 58.7 percent, changed little in November. (See table A-1.)
The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers), at 8.2 million in November, was little changed over the month. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job. (See table A-8.)
In November, 2.5 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force, essentially unchanged from a year earlier. (These data are not seasonally adjusted.) These individuals were not in the labor force, wanted and were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months. They were not counted as unemployed because they had not
searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey. (See table A-16.)
Among the marginally attached, there were 979,000 discouraged workers in November, little changed from a year earlier. (These data are not seasonally adjusted.) Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking for work because they believe no jobs are available for them. The remaining 1.5 million persons marginally attached to the labor force in November
had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey for reasons such as school attendance or family responsibilities. (See table A-16.)
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Unchanged. Unchanged. Unchanged.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 7th, 2012
9:31 am
Total Nonfarm Payrolls
January 2009: 134 million
November 2012: 134 million
yay
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
9:34 am
Ill give you a real world example of how much better things are.
I have a friend who works at a Technical College.
The type where they just train people to go straight to work.
She works in Career Services and she says the job market is looking better and better each month.
They are having zero problems placing graduates.
Her exact quote
” Everybody is hiring ‘
Bottom line it took a little while to get over the Bush recession. But with 4 plus years of solid Democratic leadership we are finally turning this ship around.
Every economic indicator whether it be the markets or unemployment are pointing to good times ahead.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
9:36 am
Cheesy – Racism and bigotry are hard (impossible, more likely) for some people to overcome. This is especially true when from cradle to grave you are taught and surround yourself with nothing but hatred and a belief in your own superiority. An uber successful black man in a position of power just drives them dilly.
Agree 100 percent
HDB
December 7th, 2012
9:39 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
8:48 am
Tibbi….if two things would have occurred, much of this wouldn’t have been necessary:
1) If Republicans hadn’t been obstructionist
2) If the first stimulus had been bigger…..
Remember: even REAGAN used stimulus tactics to spur the economy during a recession! The government at times is the first/last hope of economic activity. I looked at those who GAINED employment because of the initial stimulus.
Also, Tibbi, it has been shown that higher tax rates DO spur economic expansion because what vehicles wealthy people use for investment purposes ALSO are tax RELIEF mechanisms!! Note now that Apple is bringing MAC production lines BACK TO THE US!!
John
December 7th, 2012
9:41 am
Change only a demwit could believe in.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
9:47 am
“I looked at those who GAINED employment because of the initial stimulus. ”
You mean the almost no one who gained employment during the first stimulus, HDB?
You know, ’cause the goal post kept getting moved, like jobs saved vs. created, or par-time jobs being classified the same as full-time jobs, or lower paying jobs being created. . .
And it has NEVER been shown that higher tax rates spur economic expansion, as tax rates are a small part of what actually drives an economy. You can use one-off statistics all you want, HDB, but cherry-picking your statistics on taxes vs. economic growth is just that – cherry-picking that which you do not understand.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
9:48 am
Ratios of CEO pay vs. average worker pay:
Japan 11:1
Germany 12:1
France 15:1
Italy 20:1
Canada 20:1
South Africa 21:1
Britain 22:1
Mexico 47:1
Venezuela 50:1
United States 475:1
Aint it grand to be that far ahead of Venezuela?
Unreal. Of course you’ll be told that you just hate the rich.
But when people like Mitt Romney pay half the rate the average American does and has car elevators in his garage.
Then id say the scales have tipped a bit too much in favor of the rich.
I think that is perfectly reasonable position and not just ” hating rich ” or ” wealth envy “
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
9:48 am
Ahhhhh. The racism card.
Used when the terminally stupid have nothing else to write.
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 7th, 2012
9:51 am
Salary.com says average CEO pay in the U.S. is $733K. That would make average worker pay less than $2000 a year.
Try again.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
9:55 am
Ahhhhh. The racism card.
Used when the terminally stupid have nothing else to write.
Ahhh Denying it.
Used when the stupid among us just cant bury their head in the sand any longer.
I live in the real world my friend and if you think racism isn’t alive and well, well just look at the Republican party leadership.
All white.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
9:56 am
The average CEO pay of companies in the S&P 500 Index rose to $12.94 million in 2011. Overall, the average level of CEO pay in the S&P 500 Index increased 13.9 percent in 2011, following a 22.8 percent increase in CEO pay in 2010.
I think that’s what he was referring too.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
9:57 am
Liberals don’t hate the rich.
They just want their money without having to do anything for it.
In the real world we call this theft.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
9:57 am
Average CEO Pay 2011 Nearly $10 Million At Public Companies: AP Study
Or that
HDB
December 7th, 2012
9:57 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
9:47 am
Tibbi…there WERE people that gained employment under the first stimulus!! Remember when all of those Republican CONGRESSMEN were having their pictures taken by projects FUNDED by the stimulus package while simultaneously DECRYING the stimulus!! What about PAUL RYAN…who asked for stimulus funding for his Janesville District??
Also, Tibbi….if you review history and correlated economic expansion vs tax rates….note that the greatest expansions occurred when tax rates were their HIGHEST (Eisenhower is the prime example!). There are points where higher tax rates have diminishing returns….and points where lower tax rates have diminishing returns; what has to be found is the median………
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
9:58 am
Here are some additional stats to put the oh! in CEO:
– 725%: That’s how much average CEO compensation increased between 1978 and 2011, according to EPI.
– 5.7%: That’s how much the average worker’s compensation increased over the same period.
or that
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 7th, 2012
9:58 am
So get a CEO job, whiner.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
10:00 am
Liberals don’t hate the rich.
They just want their money without having to do anything for it.
In the real world we call this theft.
Im a liberal. I work very hard for my money
Try again.
You know who doesn’t work for their money. Country Club Republicans and their trust fund babies.
HDB
December 7th, 2012
10:00 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
9:57 am
Liberals don’t hate the rich.
They just want their money without having to do anything for it.
In the real world we call this theft.”
Try this, Tibbi:
Conservatives don’t hate the poor; they just want them to work without paying them for their labor!
In the real world, we call that slavery!
Same corollary………………
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
10:02 am
Conservatives don’t hate the poor; they just want them to work without paying them for their labor!
In the real world, we call that slavery!
Same corollary………………
LOL I gotta remember that one. Well done.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:04 am
Cheesy, in case you missed it (and you always do), some people don’t cherry-pick people based on the color of their skin, but for their accomplishments.
Liberals – the ultimate racial and religious bigots.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:05 am
“Im a liberal. I work very hard for my money”
LOL. Not when you troll on this blog 24/7, Cheesy. What public library are you using right now?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:08 am
“Also, Tibbi….if you review history and correlated economic expansion vs tax rates….note that the greatest expansions occurred when tax rates were their HIGHEST”
How many times do I have to repeat to you that tax rates alone have nothing to do with economic stimulus, HDB, before it sinks in?
An economist, you’re not.
HDB
December 7th, 2012
10:08 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:04 am
Tibbi, in case you missed it (and you sometimes do), some people DO cherry-pick people based on the color of their skin, AND for their accomplishments…AND their RELIGION!! Lest you forget the owners of a Subway restaurant in Louisiana for REFUSED to serve a couple because the y were Muslim; that owner is a REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN!!
Conservatives – the ultimate racial, economic and religious bigots.
I can show you the other side as well, Tibbi………
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
10:09 am
LOL. Not when you troll on this blog 24/7, Cheesy. What public library are you using right now?
Have dual monitors at work.
I post on her on one and work off the other one.
I do fine dont worry about me.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:10 am
“Conservatives don’t hate the poor; they just want them to work without paying them for their labor!
In the real world, we call that slavery!”
HDB, the problem is that taking from the rich is a real world issue.
Not paying people for their work is simply a fantasy on your part. Please provide any instances in today’s world where people aren’t paid for their labor.
Ronald Reagan
December 7th, 2012
10:11 am
Mr. Wingfield you are a gifted writer unlike your “cut & paste” cohort Mr. Bookman. You are a credit to your community! Jeb in ‘16!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:12 am
“I post on her on one and work off the other one.”
So you admit that you lied when you said you worked hard for your money, Cheesy. Thanks for finally admitting to one of your lies.
If you can spend all day on here and “work” at the same time, you’re not working very hard.
HDB
December 7th, 2012
10:12 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:08 am
I never said tax rates ALONE…but tax rates are a FACTOR, Tibbi. We all know that the higher the tax rates, the more someone searches for deductions to offset such! Business investments, salaries, equipment purchases, et. al.: all are used to offset taxable business income!! The greater the investment…the greater the deduction…and the LOWER the applicable tax rate will be due to the decline in income!! Right???
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
10:12 am
In case any of you sane people ( liberals ) missed it Jon Stewart did a great thing on the Fox News phony ” War on Christmas” bs.
Nobody could watch that and actually take them seriously anymore.
Nobody with functioning grey matter that is.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/04/jon-stewart-fox-news-war-on-christmas-video_n_2237279.html
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:14 am
“Lest you forget the owners of a Subway restaurant in Louisiana for REFUSED to serve a couple because the y were Muslim; that owner is a REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN!!”
And do you have proof that the owner ordered their employees to refuse that service, or was this just a case of having substandard employees in place?
You always paint with a very broad brush, HDB.
Old Timer
December 7th, 2012
10:14 am
Today–December 7 is the day the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor putting the United states in WWII. A day of Infamy. The world changed and unfortunately we have politicans today that have short memories and self centered motives, I remembered where I was that day, and those that weren’t around then will make the same mistakes. History will repeat itself and it is not pretty. Todays populus could not stand the inconviences of a real war. God Bless our Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
10:15 am
If you can spend all day on here and “work” at the same time, you’re not working very hard.
LOL
No im just really smart and can do more than one thing at a time.
Trust me keeping up with you and the other mental midgets isn’t very taxing.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:15 am
“I never said tax rates ALONE”
No, you always left that word out, yet made your case solely on the tax rates, HDB.
Nice back-pedaling.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:17 am
Yeah, Cheesy. I always turn to a little-watched entertainer for my news.
HDB
December 7th, 2012
10:19 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:10 am
HDB, the problem is that taking from the rich is a real world issue.
Not paying people for their work is simply a fantasy on your part.”
Really, Tibbi….the DECLINE in income by those in the middle class vs the INCREASE in wealth by the wealthy is indicative that that people aren’t getting paid for their labor! The desire to create environments whereas wage levels are depressed primarily to increase corporate profitability is indicative of people not being paid for their work!!
Wise man told me: “If you’re working for the money rather than the money working for you, you’re in SLAVERY!”
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 7th, 2012
10:22 am
Yeah, Cheesy. I always turn to a little-watched entertainer for my news.
LOL. you must be really really old.
Jon Stewart has a very large audience. And among the younger crowd he is very popular.
Compare to Fox News whose audience is very old with one foot in the grave.
Anyway. See ya guys a little later.
Keep up the good word.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:23 am
“the DECLINE in income by those in the middle class vs the INCREASE in wealth by the wealthy is indicative that that people aren’t getting paid for their labor!”
Maybe you need to brush up on your English language skills, HDB, or maybe you just need to dial down the hyperbole a bit.
One cannot have a decline in income if one isn’t getting paid. So that completely debunks your slavery bit, doesn’t it?
Hillbilly D
December 7th, 2012
10:24 am
If you simply raise the rates, the rich will simply do what the always (and rightly) do, which is to find ways to save taxes through different deductions. In other words, you’re not going to get another dime from the rich because their effective rate will never change.
The reason that doesn’t change is because of the people writing the laws (i.e. Congress). Whether Democrat or Republican, every one of them is part of the upper echelon, if not when they first get elected, after a couple years at the public trough. To change the law would impact them and they’re not going to have that. So they play their semantic games and lie through their teeth, knowing that they need to talk a good game but protecting the status quo is in their own best interest.
That’s why they go for a small percentage increase, rather than cutting deductions, credits, subsidies, etc. They know which side their bread is buttered on.
But you’re right, “raising the rates” is just like the inheritance tax. The only people who pay inheritance tax are small businessmen and farmers, trying to pass things on to their children. Is anybody really naive enough to think that a Kennedy, Rockefeller, Bush, etc, is ever going to pay an inheritance tax? They have the knowledge and the means to walk right around it.
The only way for this to work is to tax all income the same, take away all the deductions, credits, etc. and charge everybody the same rate. And that’s never going to happen. Too many people make too much money gaming the system that we already have and that they know, oh so well.
Steve
December 7th, 2012
10:28 am
So sad how you Confederates hate America so much. Too bad. You lost the Civil war, slavery is illegal, and the Dems are roaring ahead in 2014 and 2016 due to the economy improving DESPITE what’s going on in Europe and Asia.
You lost!
HDB
December 7th, 2012
10:28 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:14 am
“You always paint with a very broad brush, HDB.”
I’m only painting what has been made evident, Tibbi! If you go and review HISTORY, you will determine that it’s always a CONSERVATIVE faction that wants to DENY other people!! Conservatives want to burn Qurans; conservatives want to deny rights and access; conservaitves want to depress wage levels………
Don’t blame me for what the preponderance of your ilk have done throughout history!! Those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it…….
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:32 am
“Jon Stewart has a very large audience. ”
The Daily Show has an audience averaging 1.8 million viewers.
In a country of over 325 million people.
Nope, Cheesy, he doesn’t.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:35 am
I see HDB hasn’t yet figured out the meaning of “hyperbolic rant” yet . . .
CC
December 7th, 2012
10:58 am
When the Christmas season is over and all the temperary jobs disappear with its departure, I wonder who you libs will blame for the RISE in the unemployment rate?
“I have a friend who works at a Technical College. The type where they just train people to go straight to work. She works in Career Services and she says the job market is looking better and better each month. They are having zero problems placing graduates. Her exact quote ” Everybody is hiring ‘”
And what else would you expect her to say? Her continued employment is dependent upon attracting students to that facility, and if no jobs are found after the echooling their number of students would drop. That’s pretty simple to understand.
HDB
December 7th, 2012
10:59 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:35 am
Haven’t gotten to hyperbolic stage yet, Tibbi…..I’m still subsonic!!
CC
December 7th, 2012
11:00 am
John Q is the original Obama puppet!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
11:04 am
“You’re probably this blog’s most prolific misreant . . . er, poster.”
Shall we count my posts vs. yours over the past 3 days, John Q?
Didn’t think you . . .
JDW
December 7th, 2012
11:07 am
@Tiberius…”Specifics”
I understand you are really unfamilar with the concept of leading. See the Presidents job in this case is to lay out the broad outline, which he has done. It is now up to the Congress to hash out the details and the sooner the Republicans get on board the sooner it will be done.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 7th, 2012
11:12 am
How about Harry Reid’s total smack down of Mitch McConnell in the Senate yesterday?
CLASSIC!
Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!
December 7th, 2012
11:12 am
JDW’s knowledge of our Constitution is weak-to-nonexistent, as would be expected for a Democrat.
the red herring
December 7th, 2012
11:13 am
DeMint will be missed in the senate. He will be an asset to The Heritage Foundation which if people will actually read their research and ideas they would see that it is basic common sense. DeMint was one of the few people in government that actually used common sense so he will be missed.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 7th, 2012
11:14 am
And what else would you expect her to say?
Cons can find a conspiracy brewing in a bowl of tea. No wonder Fox News is so popular – its target audience is the most gullible bunch of peeps in the world.
CC
December 7th, 2012
11:16 am
Finn:
Just go back to reading “Dalon”. It’s far closer to your intellectual level . . .
HDB
December 7th, 2012
11:28 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
December 7th, 2012
10:35 am
I see HDB hasn’t yet figured out the meaning of “hyperbolic rant” yet . . .
..and to expand further….I’m not hyperbolic nor parabolic!! I’m more linear and subsonic…….but based in fact……
CC
December 7th, 2012
11:37 am
Finn:
Just go back to reading “Salon”. It’s far closer to your intellectual level . . .
Here's Johnny
December 7th, 2012
12:21 pm
Finn
McConnel had to filibuster his own bill when Reid called his bluff
Classic….
Aesop's Fables and other Lib Economic Theories
December 7th, 2012
2:19 pm
Team Obama said in ’09 stimulus would have unemployment below 6% by 2012
B b b b b but, it’s Bushie’s fault.