In an agitated region, Israel-Gaza conflict has dangerous potential; U.S. leadership needed

While we sort out who in our national security and defense hierarchy has been sleeping with whom, it appears Israel and terrorists in the Palestinian-controlled Gaza Strip are heading into a full-fledged war. As night falls in the region, Israeli officials have confirmed the first rocket attacks on Tel Aviv since the 1991 Gulf War. The Times of Israel has a running live blog of the action.

Those attacks followed yesterday’s Israeli strikes on terrorist targets in Gaza, including one that killed the leader of the military arm of Hamas. Both Hamas and another group called Islamic Jihad previously had ramped up their sporadic firing of rockets into southern Israel; as of mid-October, Israeli officials said there had been more than 800 rocket attacks on their country from Gaza this year.

Given the civil war in Syria, to Israel’s east; the new Egyptian government’s support of its fellow Muslim Brotherhood affiliate, Hamas; and Iran’s ties to both the Syrian government and the Gaza-based terrorist groups, it doesn’t seem likely that this conflict will be as contained as in previous flare-ups in recent years.

One thing is certain: The various actors in this conflict will be looking to see what the U.S. response is. President Obama’s initial engagement — voicing support for Israel’s right to self-defense, and urging the Egyptian government to work to de-escalate matters from the Palestinian side — was good. He’ll need to hold that line in the days to come and give stronger measures of support for Israel. I very much hope that stops short of involving our own military, but anything less than absolute support for Israel could trigger a war that engulfs the entire region.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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Bye Bye Cheesy Grits

November 15th, 2012
12:51 pm

Thankfully we have Obama in the White House and not Cheesy Grits.

getalife

November 15th, 2012
12:54 pm

Egypt should worry about running their country.

Israel can handle themselves but there will never be peace in the ME.

No new wars on the credit card cons.

Bye Bye Cheesy Grits

November 15th, 2012
12:55 pm

Yes I realize the inauguration is a long way off so Romney would not have been President today etc.

In all seriousness though.

Obama pushed the point that he had foreign policy experience and Romney didn’t.

I honestly feel he is better suited to make these calls and the nightmare scenario would have been Romney surrounded by a bunch of hawks ( which he most certainly would have been ) telling him what he should do at times like this.

Bye Bye Cheesy Grits

November 15th, 2012
12:56 pm

No new wars on the credit card cons.

Ditto. We still haven’t paid for Iraq.

We can no longer afford to be the world’s police. Those days are over.

JDW

November 15th, 2012
12:58 pm

@Kyle…”I very much hope that stops short of involving our own military, but anything less than absolute support for Israel could trigger a war that engulfs the entire region.”

While maybe in the realm of possibly I see no real likelihood of American Troop involvement. As for “absolute support” I don’t think there is a doubt that we support Israel’s right to self defense. However, having someone sit down with Bibi and explain the proper uses of carrots and sticks would do a world of good.

tiredofIT

November 15th, 2012
1:03 pm

American leadership, I am not so sure. How about some leadership from those who live in the Middle East.

Hillbilly D

November 15th, 2012
1:05 pm

I don’t claim to be an expert on the Middle East but I see it like this. There’s been a “probing for weakness” going on and some of these groups have perceived weakness, so they’re pushing further. I think Netanyahu has pretty much come to the conclusion that Israel is own its own. The chances of anything but escalation are pretty slim, in my opinion.

TBone

November 15th, 2012
1:10 pm

You gotta be kidding about the US showing leadership anywhere but especially in the middle east. All of our leaders are off chasing wind mills or other such nonsense. The US regime will most likely not aid Isreal since we have decided to make nice-nice with the mooslems. Man what a great election that was.

getalife

November 15th, 2012
1:13 pm

Our President will pivot away from the ME on foreign policy.

Peace and prosperity are coming.

jconservative

November 15th, 2012
1:13 pm

In the Muslim world it is OK for Muslims to kill Muslims by the truckload. But it is not OK for any non-Muslims to kill any Muslims. It is also apparently not OK for any non-Muslims to use force to protect the lives of Muslims.

For 64 years Muslims have fought to remove Israel from the region. For 64 years Israel has survived, although barely on several occasions. You would think that intellect would rear its head and seek a solution to the issue. But………………………………..!

john2397

November 15th, 2012
1:18 pm

This is the way Israel celebrate the election of American new President? They acted similar way in the year November 2008, killed more than 12,000 occupied human beings, destroyed more than 3000 buildings, hospitals, schools and utility establishments. Obama remained quite for 3 long months allowing Israel to do whatever she can do using FREE American bullets, bombs, missiles even white sulfate powder. Is Obama is likely to allow once again super power Israel to carry out killings, massacres, genocides and destruction at her WILL?

TBone

November 15th, 2012
1:24 pm

Peace and prosperity are coming.

You are either delusional, naive or supremely stoopid if you think this is what is coming our way.

Don't Tread

November 15th, 2012
1:26 pm

“voicing support for Israel’s right to self-defense”…

0bama doesn’t believe in an individual’s right to self-defense, so why change that for a country that is “occupying” someone else’s land? Oh, right….

Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!

November 15th, 2012
1:29 pm

Bye Bye Cheesy Grits: We still haven’t paid for Iraq.
———

Or Obozo’s “stimulus”.

Please keep your Cheese Whiz off the blog.

Rafe Hollister, dreading the eventual decline caused by Obamanism

November 15th, 2012
1:34 pm

I’m not worried Kyle, Obama will bring Hope and Change to the region, maybe he will send Susan Rice over there with a message for the peace loving Muslims to beat their weapons into wind mills.

iggy

November 15th, 2012
1:39 pm

Sounds as if Syria, Gaza and Egypt are begging for another ass-Kicking reminiscient of the 1967 7 day war.

iggy

November 15th, 2012
1:40 pm

As I heard one of Obamas supporters yelling out “Obama will bring Israel and Iran together. Obama is the “Angel of Peace”.

And all the people said…? AMEN!!

Nate Silver

November 15th, 2012
1:44 pm

iggy

Where did you hear that? You have a link?

iggy

November 15th, 2012
1:44 pm

“Super Power Israel”

Since when has Israel been or been classified as a SuperPower?

iggy

November 15th, 2012
1:45 pm

I said I heard it…not read it.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 15th, 2012
1:47 pm

Amen, brother, amen

Nate Silver

November 15th, 2012
1:47 pm

Where did you hear it?

Rafe Hollister, dreading the eventual decline caused by Obamanism

November 15th, 2012
1:47 pm

Maybe this is just another peaceful demonstration over that video and will go away on its own. Maybe we need to tell them we put the person responsible in jail for a year, that should work!

Nate Silver

November 15th, 2012
1:47 pm

iggy

Make up some better fibs. In the past you have been much better at doing that. You are slipping.

later

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 15th, 2012
1:49 pm

Where did you hear it?

You realize all the cons are on high levels of anti-depressants right now, correct?

Pete

November 15th, 2012
1:50 pm

@Kyle – The U.S.’s “absolute support for Israel” would mean the U.S. is supporting the killing of innocent people and children in the Gaza Strip… Instead, how about the U.S.’s “absolute support of peace and stopping attacks on both sides”???

iggy

November 15th, 2012
1:50 pm

It wouldnt matter if I posted an audio link with Obama making the statement while reading from his teleprompter you guys would dispute, cry, disagree, cry, whine, cry and cry.

Im not stepping into that mudhole.

@@

November 15th, 2012
1:52 pm

800 rocket attacks this year?

That’s what Obama calls noise.

He’d rather listen to Jay-Z on his iPod.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 15th, 2012
1:54 pm

He’d rather listen to Jay-Z on his iPod.

So would I. Let the Jewish state fight its own battles for a change?

Nate Silver

November 15th, 2012
1:54 pm

iggy @ 1:50

Translation: You made it up.

Thanks for the around the way acknowledgment of that fact.

That whipping from last week must still be stinging. It will wear off before you know it.

;-)

carlosgvv

November 15th, 2012
2:00 pm

Our border region with Mexico is becoming more dangerous evey day. It looks as though we may actually be exchanging gunfire soon with some Mexicans. Looks like we need Israeli leadership.

If this sounds foolish and insulting then so does the notion that Israel cannot handle this dangerous situation without “U.S. leadership”.

Prem

November 15th, 2012
2:01 pm

How can we accept a Sovereign State to be hit by a terrorist group, whatever or whoever they are? Any country has every right to defend itself.

southpaw

November 15th, 2012
2:05 pm

Nate Silver

Now you, too, can make up things by hearing what iggy heard. Listen carefully at time index 2:09.
http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/11/obama-supperters-celebrate-win-death-to-israel-socialism-is-great-and-obama-is-an-angel-of-peace-video/

Skip

November 15th, 2012
2:05 pm

I thought Bush took care of this during his eight years?

southpaw

November 15th, 2012
2:08 pm

Finn @1:49
What do antidepressants have to do with the taste of tea in Timbuktu–or with what iggy heard? Note the link in my 2:05 post.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

November 15th, 2012
2:16 pm

Aren’t you glad you voted for obozo. New York City Jew population?

It’s just another country to get thrown out of, what’s the sweat? Maybe they won’t gas 6 million of ya this time around.

Aquagirl

November 15th, 2012
2:18 pm

Note the link in my 2:05 post.

Much appreciated. Now we know iggy wets himself over a random twerp hollering in Times Square. Oooh, scary! It’s just like living in Stalinist Russia!

Not that iggy could even remember where he heard that, which is why we don’t really care if y’all freak over something you vaguely remember hearing somewhere. Pretty soon that mutates into Obama proclaims himself the angel of peace while organizing the U.N. troops to confiscate everyone’s guns.

Maybe y’all should volunteer with the Brownie Scouts and learn some rational-self control from them.

Lil' Barry Bailout - OBAMAPHONE!!!

November 15th, 2012
2:19 pm

One would think a Nobel peace prize winner could bring his skills to bear in this conflict, or could have done something about Syria killing 37,000 of its citizens.

These are some communities seriously in need of organizing.

jd

November 15th, 2012
2:20 pm

Kyle — u r such a jack of all trades — so, if you know the key Middle East Peace — please share.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

November 15th, 2012
2:21 pm

Just think, if it was 1939, we’d get to hear these same libs blaming the Jews for the invasion of Poland.

Ignorance is almost impossible eradicate, it outlive all of us.

Nate Silver

November 15th, 2012
2:24 pm

I report

I would say that you hadn’t stopped whining since the election, however you whine each time you post which of course has been going on long before the election. So nothing new at all.

Thanks for the laughs, little guy

carlosgvv

November 15th, 2012
2:24 pm

I Report – “maybe they won’t gas 6 million of ya this time”

This comment indicates your Christian Academy home schooling in an utter and complete failure. You see, schoolboy, in a regular school you would have actually leaned of the horrors of WWII and would, therefore, never make such an ignorant and banal remark as that.

Nate Silver

November 15th, 2012
2:27 pm

carlosgvv @ 2:24

You give “I Report” too much credit. That kind of post is par for the course. Facts do not matter to him. It is rant and rave, cry and whine 24/7.

Unhappy people with little substance are like that.

Bye Bye Cheesy Grits

November 15th, 2012
2:30 pm

You ban a host of others for far more benign posts and yet you allow I Report to spew his/its racist, anti-semitic, misogynistic bile here day after day after day?

There is a double standard for sure.

Ive documented it before.

southpaw

November 15th, 2012
2:30 pm

Aquagirl @2:18

Who’s freaking? Iggy didn’t sound upset to me (although he can certainly tell me I’m wrong in thinking he wasn’t). I certainly wasn’t; I never even heard about that comment, much less cared about it, until I started looking around for it. My goal was only to start turning Mr. Silver into Mr. Tarnish.

To the extent that we should volunteer with the Brownie Scouts, maybe you should ask your doctor for a tranquilizer (”Oooh, scary! It’s just like living in Stalinist Russia!). Adjust your irony meter as you think is appropriate.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

November 15th, 2012
2:30 pm

J Q- I just thanked God that I am no relative of yours. You support your fellow countryman, who spend their days dodging rockets and mourning their butchered children by spouting off some terrorist BS propganda.

Wonderful.

N S- No problem.

Carlos- I guess this is the part where you tell us the Holocaust was a hoax, no?

Bye Bye Cheesy Grits

November 15th, 2012
2:34 pm

Has Georgia seceded from the Union yet ?

If not….

I have some vacation time coming up and was thinking of spending the week shuttling anyone who wants one with a free ride to Canada.

If any of you guys are interested let me know and Ill gauge by the responses if this is something we can get going.

You will need your own passport but the vehicle, gas, and basic refreshments will be provided by me.

Nate Silver

November 15th, 2012
2:35 pm

John Q

You must remember that these are some of the same people who were convinced by talk radio, Fox pundits and right wing website that Romney was going to win and win big.

Some on this blog were already calling him President Romney. For some reason I haven’t read that one in sometime.

hahahahaha

:-)

:-)

East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)

November 15th, 2012
2:39 pm

I have tried to be understanding of the Palestinian point of view and would like to see Israel stop with the settlements in certain areas. But there is a part of me that says just go ahead with it and get it done. The political situation in Syria and Egypt are such that they would not be able to provide much support to Hamas. The big concern is if Iran tries to get in on the action. But they would suffer the same fate as the “Hawk of Achill” if they were that foolish. At this point Israel is entirely within their right to secure their country.

Bye Bye Cheesy Grits

November 15th, 2012
2:41 pm

You must remember that these are some of the same people who were convinced by talk radio, Fox pundits and right wing website that Romney was going to win and win big.

Yup. They nailed that one didn’t they.

When you live in LA LA land that is going to happen.

Unfortunately for them unlike most things there was actually a vote to tell them they were wrong.

This doesn’t always happen and so they continue to believe nonsense because its on Fox News.

Funny how they always seem to be on the WRONG side of things isn’t it.