Dear people signing secessionist petitions . . .

If folks want to sign petitions, that’s their right. It’s really nothing to get excited about.

As for the country being divided, it’s always been divided. The only time it was ever united for any period of time was WWII. That’s not apt to change.

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Perhaps our secessionists could instead focus their energy on distinguishing between reality and their FOX News-right wing echo chamber reinforced delusions of SOCIALISM!!!!END OF THE COUNTRY AS WE KNOW IT!!!! HES GOING TO TAKE OUR GUNS!!!!!etc.

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Can we do away with the electoral college now?

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Impeachment?

hahahahahaha

Must be colic again. Kyle might need to burp him burp him.

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Kyle

Like both parties and majority of elected officials, whether it be for legitimate reasons or for political expediency, the Republicans will evolve and continue to be a viable force in the political arena. The lunatics on both sides have been around for years and years and will not be going anywhere.

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I hope South Carolina shoots first again.

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Did the traitorous Democrats who moved to Canada during Our President Bush’s administration ever come back? Oh, right, they didn’t have the guts to follow through.

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“Can we do away with the electoral college now?”

Funny what happens to those “Strict Constitutionalists” when they perceive The Constitution as inconvenient.

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A couple of points:

While I believe that it is inevitable the the U.S. breaks up into separate countries eventually, the time is not now. We’ll survive Obama, even if he will put us on an irreparable course towards a breakup that will happen in about 50 years or so

Traitors are Presidents who go to bed while their ambassador is pleading for rescue.

If this is true (and I’m not vouching for the veracity of this site’s reporting), this is VERY disturbing. The explanation right now is that over voting is due to two ballot “cards” being available and some voters didn’t vote on both. Not impossible, but not likely, either:

http://www.texasgopvote.com/knowledge-topics/2012-elections/florida-s-allen-west-demanding-honest-vote-count-face-apparent-election-004818

Oh, and I’m not a big fan of Col. West, so don’t jump on that particular bandwagon, OK?

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“Romney got fewer votes than McCain did”

And Obama got a whole lot less votes than he did in 2008. What’s your point?

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The polls had Obama leading Mitt all the time. The Fox News crew did not want to believe it. It was a pleasure watching Karl Rove get sooooooo frustrated, not to mention Dick Morris! You right-wingers will survive just like we survived George Bush. Just do me a favor though before you go from the UNION, go take Allan West from Florida with you! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

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JDW: Funny what happens to those “Strict Constitutionalists” when they perceive The Constitution as inconvenient.
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Who claimed to be a strict constitutionalist and then complained about the Electoral College?

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And Bill Clinton got less than 50% of the popular vote both times he was elected.

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“Did the traitorous Regressives who threatened to move to Canada as a result of Our President Obama’s reelection ever leave? Oh, right, they didn’t have the guts to follow through.”

Kinda like all those big time libs who stated they would leave the country if Bush was elected….

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You forgot to back up your claim, JohnQ

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@ Billings @ 4:16- My point is that Obama won the popular vote by 3 million people (that’s 3,000,000 citizens). And he stomped Romney in the electoral college. This was not a close election. Get it?

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If you’re impressed that 407,000 changing their vote form Obama to Romney would have changed the election, you’ll really be impressed that if only 155,000 Georgian’s had switched from Romney to Obama, Obama would have carried Georgia.

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I guess these secessionists have forgotten how few — make that none! — of their doomsday scenarios from four years ago ever came to pass. Here they are getting themselves all worked up again. Just take some deep breaths and save your energy for real developments with which you take issue, not a bunch of ridiculous speculation about THE END OF AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT. (Which, BTW, it looks like you yourself are trying to bring about with your secessionist tantrum, so quit blaming President Obama.)

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Sage advice. To bad there are so many hysterical yahoos on the right.

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I actually really like the fact that the polls tightened up somewhat after the first debate. Up until then conservatives were about to dump Romney and begin putting more money into Senate races. But instead they got their hopes up and believed the “skewed” polls were underestimating Romney’s chances. They began to really think he was going to win. It wouldn’t have been nearly as much fun to watch them fall apart and wilt into hysterics if they hadn’t gotten their hopes up so much. But that’s what happens when you live in a fantasy world. That fantasy world came crashing down when reality smacked them in the face last Tuesday.

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Someone must have struck a nerve. Lil’ barry has gone poof. Kind of like the timid man-behind-the-curtain that he is.

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John Q, I am specifically and nicely asking you to stop equating me with LBB. We are two very different posters, with two sets of very different beliefs.

Your paranoia about this is really a bit creepy.

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“Demographic voting is the new norm in America. You vote based on who you are, not where you live or how well each campaign has articulated its case. 93% of blacks, 70% of Latinos, 60% of those under 30, and 62% of single people, voted for Obama. And white married couples over 30 years of age voted for Romney. Not much else matters. A president who was elected and re-elected through identity politics has brought about a state of affairs where demographic voting determines the outcome. Our votes are predictable based on our race, ethnicity, age, and marital status well before anybody does any campaigning.”

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Republicans likeTiberius need to go back and read “The Boy that Cried Wolf”. Perhaps if they hadn’t been screaming ” the end of America” since day one of Obama’s presidency, the media, and Americans in general might have given a little more traction to their machinations. The wailing never stopped, 24/7, for four years. People quit paying attention.

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Lynnie Gal, despite your juvenile post, wanting an America that was founded more on the principles of freedom and individual responsibility than one of dependency on government has nothing to do with racism.

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You’re wrong, Billings. This year’s popular vote count was more decisive than 2004. The only reason it was closer than 2008 was because that was such a landslide, but it should have been closer now because Obama was a vulnerable incumbent. Obama actually had more raw votes than any candidate in history except for one- his own vote count in 2008. If you want to continue believing this was a close election then go ahead and keep living your delusion. It was an electoral college drubbing and the popular vote margin was wider than any Republican victory in a generation.

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“Perhaps if they hadn’t been screaming ” the end of America” since day one of Obama’s presidency”

Idiots like jasper need to actually read what some people write, rather than making erroneous assumptions about them.

I haven’t been “screaming” anything, nor have I been doing it since Obama got elected.

I’ve been writing about this for about a decade or so as our country becomes more divided along hyphenated-Americans rather than the melting pot we used to be. We have also become more dependent on government to solve out problems; a trend that has grown steadily since FDR, but accelerated since LBJ. It has been a calm and reasoned argument, worked out long before this current disaster ever thought of destroying his first political opponent with lies and innuendo.

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Texas would be the one state with the location and resources (oil revenues) that could theoretically survive as an independent country. At least until a cat 4 or better hits their coast line. Maybe their neighbors to the south would offer aid.

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Apoplexy? Great stuff. Wow. When Kyle is the one sounding level headed …. his constituency is repulsive even to him? Ouch. I wont pile on.

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A little bit too much knowledge of the scam perhaps?

Not really, I was having problems with FF and the AJC blogs so I opened up Chrome to see if the problem still remained and had an epiphany about how some people can post so fast.

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“This year’s popular vote count was more decisive than 2004″

From Wikipedia:

2004 election – Bush got 62,040,610 votes (50.7%). Kerry got 59,028,444 (48.3%).

2012 election – Obama got 62,156,980 (50.6%), Romney got 58,805,060 (47.8%).

In the raw, I’d say the two elections were very similar popular vote-wise.

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Did the traitorous Regressives who threatened to move to Canada as a result of Our President Obama’s reelection ever leave?

Sort of like when Alec Baldwin and Robert Altman were going to do it if Bush won in 2000? Getting the vapors isn’t the exclusive domain of either side.

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Just messing with ya Kamchak. I use a different handle on sports and other blogs so as to keep the politics where they belong. But prefer to have my conversations with myself done away from the public spectrum.

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“Sooner or later, well or badly, that majority’s demand for representation will be filled. Whereas in 1968 Governor George Wallace’s taunt “there ain’t a dime’s worth of difference” between the Republican and Democratic parties resonated with only 13.5 percent of the American people, in 1992 Ross Perot became a serious contender for the presidency (at one point he was favored by 39 percent of Americans vs. 31 percent for G.H.W. Bush and 25 percent for Clinton) simply by speaking ill of the ruling class. Today, few speak well of the ruling class. Not only has it burgeoned in size and pretense, but it also has undertaken wars it has not won, presided over a declining economy and mushrooming debt, made life more expensive, raised taxes, and talked down to the American people. Americans’ conviction that the ruling class is as hostile as it is incompetent has solidified. The polls tell us that only about a fifth of Americans trust the government to do the right thing. The rest expect that it will do more harm than good and are no longer afraid to say so.

While Europeans are accustomed to being ruled by presumed betters whom they distrust, the American people’s realization of being ruled like Europeans shocked this country into well nigh revolutionary attitudes. But only the realization was new. The ruling class had sunk deep roots in America over decades before 2008. Machiavelli compares serious political diseases to the Aetolian fevers — easy to treat early on while they are difficult to discern, but virtually untreatable by the time they become obvious.”

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I love the fact that what we’re arguing about is the relative size of President Obama’s win. Was it a landslide? Was it kinda sorta somewhat close? No matter, I’ll take 50.6% of the vote, winning by 3,000,000 votes nationally, and 332 electoral votes any day. And it appears that Republicans are still in denial and will insist on keeping the status quo. Good for them. I like winning elections and I really like the Democrats’ policies. They’re right in line with the views of this socialist, atheist college professor.

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No, Obama’s personality, his paying off of unions and the willing assistance of the media won the election.

And the follow up to this is the assertion Republicans are the “reasonable ones.” Riiiiiight. have you considered medication for these kind of erratic thoughts?

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Dear Kyle: please stop writing. You should find another outlet for your support of the constricting socialism that is threatening the people of this country.

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Dear people signing secessionist petitions: PLEASE GO. PLEASE. Can you imagine how much better America’s stats would look without Texas?

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Did some snooping after reading that story Tibs posted about voter fraud and here is the election results that show the inaccuracies:

http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20ELECTION%20SUMMARY%20REPORT.pdf

Seems someone certainly has some splainin to do when there are 73,541 votes that just miraculously appeared. And if I’m not mistaken, Obama also carried Fl by only 74,000 votes. And this is just one county.

Somethings seems awful fishy………..

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WTF 5:15

Please return to your mother ship. Your slip is showing.

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Aquagirl, your reading comprehension skills are as lacking as usual.

I never said Republicans were the reasonable ones. In fact, I stated clearly that both sides have equal shares of unreasonable people in them. My assertion is that it is the Democrats who consider themselves reasonable, when they are just as guilty as the Republicans.

Pay attention to what people write, not what you think they will write, OK?

And Obama DID pay off his union buddies with stimulus and bailout money. Bailed out GM with Federals funds (yet to be paid back), payed off his teachers unions with Stimulus funds (never to be paid back), paid off his auto unions again with Cash for Clunkers. Paid them off up and down the line, Aquagirl. Sorry those facts elude you.

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“One untold story of Tuesday night was the continued Republican success at the gubernatorial level, where they held every seat up for re-election, and won North Carolina. They now hold 30 states—the biggest majority for a party in 12 years.

The majority of these offices are held by reform Republicans who were elected on the pro-growth GOP platform on spending and taxes. Voters are clearly open to that message, if delivered competently. ”

http://online.wsj.com/article/potomac_watch.html

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Sister Sarah,

Women are already free. Please return to the back room with granny.

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Daniel: His reasoning was that the GOP would not be able to carry enough votes outside of angry, old, white, men. Not surprisingly, that is the only demographic Willard won.
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Incorrect. Romney won married white women. He also won members of the military. He no doubt won other demographics. Do you know what a demographic is?

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Among other things that were up for vote last week:

“1. Republicans retained control of the U.S. House of Representatives.
2. Voters in Alabama, Montana, and Wyoming all passed measures limiting Obamacare.
3. Tea Party candidate Ted Cruz, one of the conservative movement’s brightest rising stars, overcame establishment GOP opposition to clinch a U.S. Senate victory in Texas.
4. Corruptocrat Beltway barnacle Rep. Pete Stark was finally kicked out of office in California.
5. Despite entrenched teachers’ union opposition, a charter school initiative in Washington state triumphed.
6. Despite entrenched Big Labor support, a radical collective bargaining power grab in Michigan failed.
7. Oklahoma voters said no to government race-based preferences in college admissions, public contracting, and government hiring.
8. Montana voters said no to boundless benefits for illegal aliens.
9. Washington state approved taxpayer-empowering limitations on its state legislature’s ability to raise taxes.
10. For the first time since Reconstruction, the GOP won control of the Arkansas state house.
11. Voters rejected tax hike ballot measures in Arizona, South Dakota, and Missouri.
12. Louisiana voted to protect gun rights.
13. Kentucky voted to protect hunting and fishing rights.
14. Parental notification for minors’ abortion prevailed in Montana.
15. North Carolina Republicans claimed the governor’s office, congressional gains, and control of the state’s general assembly.
16. Paul Ryan will return to Congress after winning re-election and continue to carry the torch for entitlement reform and budget discipline.
17. Conservatives won big victories in the Kansas state legislature.
18. Republicans won historic supermajorities in Tennessee.
19.Across the country, Republicans reached a post-2000 record number of gubernatorial victories.
20. Conservatives who were devastated by the national election results demonstrated how to lose with dignity and grace.”

http://michellemalkin.com/2012/11/07/20-things-that-went-right-on-election-day/

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Not at all a “nice try”. If you LISTEN to the exchange and the context in which the questioner asked, the time that passes and Rush ultimately coming back and declaring he’s going to leave the country outright and altogether you wouldn’t possibly try to spin it into the garbage that you are. I mean…I hear crow is pretty rank to consume so I feel your pain.

What could Rush be possibly referring to? Going to restock his Viagra or Oxy? He can do that via mailorder. So is he going to CR when he gets the flu? Maybe a nosejob? There is ONE type of “job” I understand he has really taken a liking to down in those parts. Seems unreasonable to me. COME ON MAN! Why do I even waste my time?

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Romney won married white women

Key word there still being white. There is a joke in their about winning the married white women demographic and the Mormon stereotype about polygamy. But I am too lazy to write it.

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“Will this be verified in the hearings?”

Depends. Will the hearings be open to the public, and will the administration release ALL files and documents on the weeks before and the night of Sept 11, 2012?

“If is isn’t, will you make a public retraction here?”

Yes, if the above happens. Unlike you, carlos, I admit to my mistakes.

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“Let us now when the Republican Governor of FL holds a press conference and speaks of this fraud you allege.”

I’m not alleging anything, merely posting the info that’s out there. There very well may be a valid reason for it…….as there is also a chance it may be something else entirely.

BUT, the facts remain that the county has 175554 registered voters, and there were 249095 ballots cast…..according to the results.

I didn’t make up the numbers…..did you?

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md

Allen West will have lost in FL and Obama will have won win the dust settles.

There will be no announcement from the FL governor about massive fraud and that website (wnd?) that is feeding you that information will drop it in a day or two and move on to something else.

But thanks for posting that conspiracy.

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“Conservatives who were devastated by the national election results demonstrated how to lose with dignity and grace.”

Too bad the liberals on this blog cannot demonstrate that same dignity and grace in winning.

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AGAIN, Kamchak is back with his ack ack and back ack..

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Too bad several of the conservative couldn’t help themselves by speaking of President Romney and the impending Obama loss to some degree or another……………….

But the whining was expected regardless of what side lost

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“and that website (wnd?) that is feeding you that information will drop it in a day or two and move on to something else.”

You do know that you look really silly when you don’t do your homework and then get in front of the class with bogus info….don’t you?

That website I posted from was the actual website and information posted by the St Lucie County Supervisor of Elections…………..

BUT, you may be right about the conspiracy part…….coming from a county website and all……

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md

You posted those numbers from that site, but that probably wasn’t the website where you first read about the alleged fraud. Maybe not wnd, but there are a host of others posting the same allegations. The site you linked was probably embedded within the initial article you read or based on the info you read you went to the St Lucie goverment or a FL government site to obtain it.

So speaking of silly……………
look in the mirror

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md

Let me guess, you were just surfing the St Lucie County website and come across that interesting bit of info?

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Well dusty hurt my widdle feelings. Need to fill out one of these…………….

http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/legalfiles/gates_letter_sept09/attach_1.pdf

Actually it is time to go home.

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md

But Keep Hope Alive……………..

It could be the next big “story” on Hanitty or even Rush?

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“Let me guess, you were just surfing the St Lucie County website and come across that interesting bit of info?”

Yea, I mean come on. That info is supposed to be secret…..

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Many of you on the right simply don’t understand what went wrong. What could possibly have happened to allow someone like Barack Obama to defeat a good and decent candidate like Mitt Romney. This one ad, or so it has been said, put the last nail in Romney’s coffin. Here it is……

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLo0Jwj03JU&feature=player_embedded

I invite you to watch the above in its entirety because it is also emblematic of what is wrong with America. It represents, in large part, why we have all of the other fiscal problems we now face.

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I can’t imagine this to be a very popular topic for you Kyle since I would wager that most of your regular right wing fanatical traitorous posters here have signed ALL those petitions……….

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Glenn Beck and md, as I posted before (when I posted the original link), I had my doubts about the explanation from the elections supervisor’s statement.

There may be a way to set up the ballots as two different cards for counting (her explanation), but it is grossly inefficient and certainly confusing, especially given the results. There is also some question about recounting CERTAIN early votes (not all – what is it with these Democrats who don’t believe in equal protection anyway), but not recounting ALL of them, especially given the huge swing in vote totals as a result.

The story needs to play out further, but there are some interesting cautionary tales out there in OH and FL that needs to be investigated fully.

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Ward Kendall

November 12th, 2012
5:57 pm

It matters not if there is no realistic possibility that these secessionist petitions will accomplish anything. That’s not the point of them, Mr. Wingfield. The point is this: to spit in the face of Obama and the US government. To say to them that every secessionist signer has utter contempt for the United States of America and, as such, would rather not be apart of this vile, immoral nation any longer.
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I’ll be more than happy to give you air fare, luggage, help you pack your bags and drive you to the airport if your traitorous ass will just renounce your citizenship, leave and NEVER come back.

We real Americans are tired of you traitors.

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I see that Mr. Disgustingly Disagreeable ™ has decided to visit here tonight.

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Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

November 12th, 2012
6:05 pm

I see that Mr. Disgustingly Disagreeable ™ has decided to visit here tonight.
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I see that you still can’t provide facts and have to resort to juvenile name calling. It’s all you have.

I’ll be happy to provide YOU with air fare and luggage as well………..

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“You posted those numbers from that site, but that probably wasn’t the website where you first read about the alleged fraud.”

Gee Sherlock, you missed your calling…….of course I rewad it somewhere else first, hence the post I made stating that.

THEN, I did my homework and actually found the County Website…….AND READ THE NUMBERS OFF THE PAGE.

Again, I have no clue why they are what they are, I’m merely pointing out the discrepancy…….but folks like you sure do make it fun to come here……I always get a chuckle from the clueless ones.

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ChazInAtl: They fail to see that. Their response after their ideals were soundly rejected by Americans is to double down on the hate, the lies, and the traitorous utterings.

Although I have to say not even their hate was enough to make me become a Democrat lol. I don’t EVER see that happening…….

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Do you people whining about ‘voter fraud” in Florida remember how stupid the Democrats and Al Gore looked when they tried the same crap?

You don’t look any smarter than the hanging chad crowd……..

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“If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. ”

Actually, the war resolved that issue, NOT the Supreme Court and it was certainly NOT settled Constitutionally.

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md

November 12th, 2012
6:14 pm

Well Fred……I doubt they would be having to do a recount if the numbers weren’t so screwed up…..correct?

Again, I didn’t make up the numbers…..they are there for all to see…..if one cares to take the time to go see vs just rambling……
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Yeah right. Here’s your hat……

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

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I, for one, am “for” the secessionists. Let them form their own United Republican Right Wing Nutcase States of America (URRWNSA). Let them put their nutcase policies in place. Let them deal with the difficulties they encounter with these policies. Let them face the realization the governing is not as simple as it seems to the uneducated, the illiterate, the bigoted, and those filled with hate. Let it be!

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Cryberious is extra sad today…

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“I see that you still can’t provide facts and have to resort to juvenile name calling.”

Let’s see . . . From Fred:

His 1st post: “your regular right wing fanatical traitorous posters”

2nd post: “if your traitorous ass” and “you traitors”

4th post: “the hate, the lies, and the traitorous utterings. ”

5th post: “Do you people whining about ‘voter fraud” in Florida remember how stupid the Democrats and Al Gore looked ”

But it’s a good thing I’M the one that’s doing all the insulting and juvenile name-calling . . .

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I’m just glad the secular statists are anti-Second Amendment. That’s a good thing.

I’m just glad so many conservative Republicans are anti-sane. Vague mumbling about the 2nd Amendment further marginalizes the GOP and as long as they tolerate this sort of nuttery that’s not a good thing, it’s a GREAT thing.

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md

I was able to figure out in 5 minutes that you were duped. Why couldn’t you? Because you wanted to buy into the story and hoped it was true, that’s why.

Oh well, you were duped again

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Identifying traitors isn’t name calling. And you DO remember how stupid the Democrats looked don’t you/ How is THAT name calling?

You see, your lies don’t make something true when it’s not. I know you folks over here have a love fest with your lies and just hate it when someone pops your little hate bubbles with truth, but deal with it.

America rejected your ideas and your traitorous writings and utterings aren’t doing you any good. Let go of your hate.

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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”

“Democracy extends the sphere of individual freedom, socialism restricts it. Democracy attaches all possible value to each man; socialism makes each man a mere agent, a mere number. Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.”

“Society will develop a new kind of servitude which covers the surface of society with a network of complicated rules, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate. It does not tyrannise but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.”

“It is indeed difficult to imagine how men who have entirely renounced the habit of managing their own affairs could be successful in choosing those who ought to lead them. It is impossible to believe that a liberal, energetic, and wise government can ever emerge from the ballots of a nation of servants.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

eerie…….

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If i want your opinion I’ll listen to Rush Limbaugh.

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rightwing troll, I’m no sadder nor happier than I was a year, month, or day ago.

I’m on an even keel, my friend, each and every day. I never let the things I cannot directly control affect me.

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“Show me an insult to you. oh wait, you can’t. You can only lie.”

Naw Fred…..issuing tin foil hats is common place I guess…..strange world you live in.

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“You forgot to add that Jimmy Carter went down to Florida and certified the election………”

In the real world that is currently Florida Fred, NOBODY has certified anything when they are in the middle of a re-count……..

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Hey md: you forgot to read the NOTE that “splains” what you keep harping about. A mind is a terrible thing to waste:

note* – turnout percentages will show over 100% due to a two page ballot. the tabulation system (GEMS) provides voter turnout as equal to the total cards cast in the election divided by the number of registered voters. also note that some voters chose not to return by mail the second card containing the amendments.

It’s on the front page of this site:

http://www.slcelections.com/

Maybe you need a triple layer of aluminum……..

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Apathy makes for a sorry American…

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Seriously? Like others have said, if people want to sign a petition, let them! You are telling people to stand idly by while everything they believe in is being ripped from their hands. It is our job as American people, being founded on Judeo-Christian values to stand for the morals we believe in. America hardly has morals and standards anymore. People can say all they want about being for abortion and homosexual marriages (and neither are sanctioned by our Creator) but can those people actually live what they say? I can’t see why people believe that things like homosexuality and abortion and even premarital relations are OK when there are natural consequences for those things! I don’t believe that these states REALLY want to secede from the union. We are beyond blessed to live in a nation with so many freedoms that other nations don’t have. If someone wants to sign a petition (doing what they feel is right) that probably won’t even get the chance to be considered seriously, don’t try to deny them that right. This government needs a little shake and a wake-up call. We gotta start somewhere.

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In the real world that is currently Florida Fred, NOBODY has certified anything when they are in the middle of a re-count……..

Posting half truth’s doesn’t turn them into THE truth md. They are recounting that whiner West’s district because he is a cry baby.

Here is the results on google for “Florida Recount”

https://www.google.com/search?q=Florida+recount&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Where are you getting your twisted info from? Drudgery spam?

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And the votes don’t just affect the seat for the House, it seems the race for Mayor is also in question:

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/nov/12/st-lucie-elections-supervisor-mum-on-problems/

But some of you just need to skip this stuff and go about your business as it seems you aren’t interested in current events……

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Maria

November 12th, 2012
6:36 pm
This government needs a little shake and a wake-up call. We gotta start somewhere.
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no YOU need a shake and a wake up call. America is just fine. Americans REJECTED your far right wing nutcase ideas. Not just once, but TWICE now. The group of talk radio/FOXbots is getting smaller and smaller Maria. Learn to think for yourself.

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Dusty – 5:39

Since your name rhymes with “old rusty”, you’d best keep silent.

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“But some of you just need to skip this stuff and go about your business as it seems you aren’t interested in current events…”

Translation – The results don’t fit my narrative so I will run with every allegation and implication about the election hoping that one will come true.

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This is all “bull crap”, and without a willing media more than happy to publicize it no one would ever pay it the least bit of attention. I saw a black lady in a TV interview before the election saying that they would burn this country to the ground if Obama lost. I’m concervative but it never occured to me that this was the mainstream thinking of liberals. I’m sure most of your liberal readers feel the same about these petitions.

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Yep Beck….the TCPalm runs wild with conspiracy theories…..

You are one funny fella……

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Wealthy Dump Assets Amid Worries About Going Over ‘Cliff’

“Fearing an increase in capital gains and dividend taxes, many of the rich are unloading stocks, businesses and homes before the end of the year.

Wealth advisors say that with capital-gains taxes potentially going to 25 percent from 15 percent, and other possible increases in the dividend tax, estate tax and other taxes, many clients are selling now to save millions in taxes.”

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49792979

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No matter how much Koch Brothers money, no matter how much Americans for Progress, no matter how much Sheldon Adelson money, no matter how many lies, the truth wins out in the end.

“Anyone who doesn’t take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either.”

–Albert Einstein

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md

November 12th, 2012
6:46 pm

Oh spare us the theatrics Fred…..was today drama class day?

I posted that as it is also in St Lucie county……but feel free to rant away, I get a chuckle when you go ballistic…..
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spare the dramatics? LOl did you really type that? Mr. All Crazy about some little town?

You are a birther too aren’t you?

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Although it might be fun to keep arguing how resounding was or was not would be educated Obama’s electoral victory, and making all those would be educated claims why it happened, is there any real purpose to it? About as much as quoting Alexis de Tocqueville, or writing ignorantly about socialism, Marxism and communism, i.e., very little.

On the other hand, Dusty’s dream about a conservative blog without liberals is another silly (no offense intended, Dusty) idea. What a boring blog would that be – about as boring as a liberal blog with only liberal posts.

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Would have been interesting to see how the results in Ohio would have been if this happened before the election:

Ohioans’ food stamp aid to be reduced

Benefit to fall $50 a month starting in January

“Ohio families receiving food stamps could get an unwelcome surprise come January: $50 less every month in assistance.

For the 869,000 households enrolled in the program for the poorest Ohioans, that could amount to about $520 million annually out of the grocery budgets.”

http://www.toledoblade.com/State/2012/11/12/Ohioans-food-stamp-aid-to-be-cut.html

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The things you silly hard core fanatics make up to scare yourselves with is comical.

Look out for the boogey man under you bed md…….. I’m sure he’s coming to take you away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxVkAhto0Ag&feature=related

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Fred, I didn’t get my “far right wing nutcase ideas” from any “talk radio/FOXbots” as you call them. I got my ideas from the bible. I believe that if some Americans think we are in trouble, they SHOULD do something about it. If you feel you’re being wronged, I hope you won’t just sit there and let it happen. I hope you would get up and take a stand. If you are standing up for what you believe in, more power to you. But I hope you’re standing on a legitimate premise. I have just as much right to believe that you have been brainwashed by the liberal media. Yeah, so I hope you are thinking for yourself as well.

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“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”

–Arthur Schopenhauer

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Tiberius – 6:44

I no more, or less, state my opinons as fact than you.

Like you, I call them as I see them.

If, in the future, you think I’m wrong, prove it. Otherwise, be a man and just admit it’s a disagreement.

Disagreeing with me and concluding you are proved to be right and I am proved to be wrong is Christian fundamentalist thinking.

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The petition to let Texas secede from the U.S. to be reviewed by the White House

“Well, Texas, you have done it.

As of 3:40 p.m. ET, more than 25,000 Texans have already signed the petition on The White House website to let Texas peacefully secede from United States of America and “create its own NEW government.”

According to The White House, the petition must reach 25,000 signatures within 30 days in order to be considered.”

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/11/the-petition-to-let-texas-secede-from-the-u-s-to-be-reviewed-by-the-white-house/

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Fred

Could be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSbSueq_KSY

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md

Please continue to post about your gullibility on these issues you think are the next big “story”..

Speaking of “too funny”. Yes you are that. Thanks for the laughs.

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“On the other hand, Dusty’s dream about a conservative blog without liberals is another silly (no offense intended, Dusty) idea. What a boring blog would that be”

Boring? Yes.

But the intellectual level of THIS blog would increase exponentially if the libs (and Fred) would just leave.

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Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

November 12th, 2012
6:53 pm

Every day is drama day for Fred.

Every day is nasty day for Fred.

Every day is disgusting day for Fred.

Every day is another day for Fred to prove he cannot hold a civil conversation on any blog.
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Every day is a good day for Tiberious to post lies and slander against other posters because he has no intellectual content to use.

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Banderson: BINGO

And the counter will be well it isn’t an exact doubling of the votes cast.

Easy answer: not every person voted one way or the other on the long list of amendments that were on the FL ballots this year………..

md – don’t lose site of this story. you are the point man

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“Please continue to post about your gullibility on these issues you think are the next big “story”..”

And that’s the real funny part…..for I never said it was a “big story”……that part came from your head. That’s why I get the chuckles…..you get soooo serious.

If you slow down a little, you may have noticed awhile back where I said it may or may not be relevant……..talking about running with it………

But do carry on, I’m having fun……

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Listen to the Republiconserviteatardiatarians speak and you will undoubtedly hear them proclaim the virtue of the free market…..

…..until in the free market of ideas, their ideological nonsense is soundly rejected by the majority of Americans. Then they get all butt-hurt and blame the media, the poor, the unions, the teachers, anybody or anything except their own failed ideology.

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md

You have not intellectual honesty at least in terms of the FL voting issue. You wanted to believe this story and you did.

I debunked it quicker than the article you read from your favorite lying website.

But thanks for the laughs. You are a riot.

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John Q is so full of self esteem that he can’t believe two people are kicking his butt instead of just one.

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“…..until in the free market of ideas, their ideological nonsense is soundly rejected by the majority of Americans.”

The free market of ideas, saywhat?

Is the the one where almost every paper and electronic media parses, distorts, lies denigrates and creates fictional people and policies for the conservative side of the aisle, while they promote and embellish their side?

That free market?

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I remember the “good old days” when the righties used to come over to Bookman’s blog to interact with those “way out” lib nutcases. How things change. How the mighty have fallen!

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“Is the the one where almost every paper and electronic media parses, distorts, lies denigrates and creates fictional people and policies for the conservative side of the aisle, while they promote and embellish their side?”

To quote George Orwell: “The people will believe what the media tells them they believe.”

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Please all you so called “progressive thinkers” can you tell me, how do we hope to pay the annual interest payments on 10 trillion dollars? Please explain me that one. Because the clown you all re-elected hasn’t a clue. Perhaps you can tell me?????

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“What is your religious affiliation?”

I have none, Fred. As I have repeatedly written on this blog, I am an Agnostic.

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“You have not intellectual honesty at least in terms of the FL voting issue. You wanted to believe this story and you did.”

More from your head…….why do you insist on speaking for me? I found the story interesting, but I also understand it may be absolutely nothing at all…….which is why I said it may actually be nothing at all in the first place. geez, do I have to go back and do that for you guys too?

And Aqua, you are free to look that up too so you don’t look so silly……

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Thanks tiber. I know it will be a real blow to your ego, but I don’t read teh comments of this blog often nor have I reall paid much attention to the personal details of you. But since you decided to attack me today as soon as I came on I figured I would find a little bit out about my new cyber stalker.

I would call agnostic a “religious affiliation.” You defien your “belief” by a lack thereof.

Thanks for the info. Some people are really touchy about their religious beliefs.

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Kennesaw David

November 12th, 2012
7:17 pm

Please all you so called “progressive thinkers” can you tell me, how do we hope to pay the annual interest payments on 10 trillion dollars? Please explain me that one. Because the clown you all re-elected hasn’t a clue. Perhaps you can tell me?????
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Why weren’t you concerned with that when your buddy George was running that debt up with his 2 unfunded wars and the unfunded drug mandate that he put on credit card and never made any payments on?

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Try it sometime. The informed part, that is.

And there you exhibit your hypocrisy. An insult in every post you make.

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Remember, md, this is what libs do.

They project their beliefs onto anyone who tries to remotely hint that something might be amiss in their government-blanketed world because they can’t argue the facts.

Someone once said that the very blanket that keeps you warm, also keeps you in the dark.

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And so, Fred, the clown has made it better? He has and will continue to drive it towards a point of no return. May already have. Are you going to try and tell me the course that we are on is sustainable?? Really?? I know what we can do!! Lets tax the productive until they puke. We should punish achievement. Yea, thats the ticket.

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Remember Kennesaw David, whenever these libs are caught without an argument, they always deflect the conversation to “Well, Bush did it and no one complained” (even when some of us did).

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WAW

It wasn’t the delegations that had to be re-admitted, it was the states and their people. If a state has never left the Union, then it doesn’t need to be re-admitted. If it has to be re-admitted, then it must have not been part of the Union. One of the many hypocrisies of the Radical Republicans of the day.

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Fred-
as you probably know, to be informed implies that information is received, evaluated, and then assimilated by the informed. Unfortunately there are those who are unable to distinguish accurate information from erroneous made up drivel, and when given the choice, invariably choose the drivel every time. They then call themselves and their opinions “informed”, oblivious to the fact that they are actually misinformed. The weird thing is that even when confronted with solid undeniable evidence of their mistaken beliefs, their nuclear proof Cryberian Bubble of Self Delusion prevents even the slightest bit of that evidence from penetrating their wooden noggins intact. Even weirder, the C.B.S.D. somehow actually transmogrifies that evidence into further “proof” that they were right all along.

In other words, unless your fingers need the exercise from typing, or if like me, you find it to be mildly amusing to play here at the kiddie pool, you are only wasting electrons on a mission of futility. But then, you already knew that, didn’t you?

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I LIKE FRED! I LIKE FRED! I LIKE FRED!

I’m not very fond of Tiberius.

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ALL HAIL AN OBAMA FAN! WELCOME TO THE PARTY! YOU’RE JUST IN TIME! Now all the right wing nutcases will leave!

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Kennesaw David

November 12th, 2012
7:31 pm

And so, Fred, the clown has made it better?
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What “clown?” Are you referring to the President of the United States? Does it make you feel like a big man to slander the man who holds the highest office our Country has? The most powerful man in the world? Does it make you feel less impotent than you obviously are to belittle our Country and our fellow citizens in that manner? If you don’t respect our Country how do you expect other to do so? You embolden the terrorist who wish to destroy us. It’s sad that you have to be such a traitor. It would be nice if folks would work together for the common good of this Country rather than be like you and seek to divide it and tear it apart.

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Kennesaw David

November 12th, 2012
7:37 pm
I stopped paying any attention to the whole, “its Bush’s fault” a long time ago
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Thank goodness that the majority of Americans continued to pay attention, and voted accordingly. They saved you from the Romney recession.

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O-fannie:

All?

It’s a given that the ones who don’t know me won’t miss. The ones who do will.

Now…go find someone else to play with….or, if you prefer….go find someone else with whom to play.

schnirt

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“They saved you from the Romney recession…”

…and will bring on ObamAusterity

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“Does it make you feel like a big man to slander the man who holds the highest office our Country has?”

More uninformed nonsense from Fred.

“Slander” is the spoken word. “Libel” is the written word.

Can’t you get ANYTHING right, Fred?

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O-fannie:

You seem more ornery than usual.

Not in the least. You?

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“Where can we find some cons to harass?” “Hey, I know, let’s go over to Kyle’ blog, there’s plenty of ‘em over there!”

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“You embolden the terrorist who wish to destroy us.”

No one can do a better job at that than Hussein himself has done.

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Thank God for the Second Amendment (what’s left of it):

US guns sales soar after Barack Obama’s re-election
Gun sales in America are soaring in the wake of President Barack Obama’s re-election with weapons retailers reporting AK-47s flying off shelves “like hotcakes.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9670585/US-guns-sales-soar-after-Barack-Obamas-re-election.html

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SB: “US guns sales soar after Barack Obama’s re-election
Gun sales in America are soaring in the wake of President Barack Obama’s re-election with weapons retailers reporting AK-47s flying off shelves “like hotcakes.”

Now we just have to find someone to shoot.

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Fred, after reading throught this blog a bit I am now enlightened. Readin some of these posts I now understand how this guy got re-elected. I have enormous respect for this country. I have served this country honorably. So I will not allow the likes of you to question that. But I have zero respect for this guy occupying the white house at the moment. Because based on his actions he does not have any respect for this country as a free market capitilist country. He wishes to change it into a model that more closely suites his radical belief system. It is just a very large struggle for me to understand how anyone cannot see that very clearly. Capitilism just works, socialism does not.

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Stephenson Billings, why are you so surprised?

The Dems keep re-electing Alcee Hastings, an impeached judge.

They re-elected Ted Kennedy, a man who in any other state would have been tried and convicted of murder.

Marion Barry.

Victor Hill.

The list goes on and on . . .

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“Thank God for the Second Amendment (what’s left of it):”

You might want to check Hussein’s announcement the day after the election. He is pursuing gun control via a U. N. action.

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Dear Second Amendment nutcases: get ready for a shock when you have to replace the battery in your car. You see, batteries are made from that same “stuff” that they make all that “ammo” you clamor for! Get it?

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Kennesaw David

November 12th, 2012
7:57 pm

Because based on his actions he does not have any respect for this country as a free market capitilist country. He wishes to change it into a model that more closely suites his radical belief system. It is just a very large struggle for me to understand how anyone cannot see that very clearly. Capitilism just works, socialism does not.
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Which “actions’ are you referring to? List them. I mean list REAL ones, not talk radio/FOXbot lies. Do you mean things like breakingup companies and sending the jobs to china? Oh crap, that was Romney and Bain…….

You mean like calling troops incombat zones and disabled veterans moochers because they don’t pay taxes? Oh wait, that was Romney.

What makes you think we are a free market capitalist society? I know Rush and Neal tell you that and bandy the term around a pot, but we aren’t. We never have been. Do you even know how to define the word? Would you know a ’socialist” if one came up and bit you in the butt? I mean I know it’s all cool on talk radio to call everyone who doesn’t walk lock step with Rush a “socialist” but do you even REALLY know the definition?

I await your next words of wisdom. If you are lucky, I made a typo and Tibey can highlight it and insult me for it……..

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Obama will be a failed president in the history books not long after his second term concludes. Yes we’ll suffer through his second term where more damage will be done due to his ideology along with his incompetency but we will survive it. America’s survived much worse than Barack Obama.

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@Fred

I TOO have served this country honorably, and I approve of the man, his wife, daughters, AND mother-in-law in the White House. There…now we have balance. See how easy that was??

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“America’s survived much worse than Barack Obama.”

Maybe there is truth in what you say, Del, but there exists a far bigger pronlem. The attitude of the voters who elected and reelected him is a sickness I’m not sure that America can survive.

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First of all Fred, I don’t have time to listen to talk radio, I work. Alot. And pay taxes. Alot. Secondly, redistibution of wealth is the cornerstone of Obama’s economics. Please do not attempt to deny this. And redistribution of wealth is the cornerstone of socialism. So I don’t need to make a list, sir.

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I have written on various blogs, within the last few years, that I believe that the world, including America, is evolving toward a more egalitarian consciousness. It should be noted that Gov. Romney received two million fewer votes in 2012 than did John McCain in 2008. If you are interested in why I believe this, I hope that you will read my entry entitled, “A Wind Is Rising. . . ,” which I have linked, below, from my personal blog.

(And, I hope any who read my article will also enjoy the Alan Parson Project rendition of, “Time,” which is included.)

http://maryelizabethsings.wordpress.com/2011/02/05/a-wind-is-rising/

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Well if there are enough people to want this then it could happen but like you said it’s not a big thing well we will see I did vote for that man and I wont support this man nor pray for a man that hates God
I can and won’t but if he gets impeached that would be even greater. There are a lot of people half this nation that don’t like him he has his hands full of angry people and I see he will not make it work nor will this nation get any better while he is in office So I will end with saying this obama is not my president no one will change my mind on this.

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I was talking to a gun store owner laughing about that.

He wouldn’t laugh if he knew his place was included in the secret markings on road signs for U.N. troops.

http://usahitman.com/secret-military-codes-hidden-road-signs/

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Kennesaw David

November 12th, 2012
8:12 pm

First of all Fred, I don’t have time to listen to talk radio, I work. Alot. And pay taxes. Alot. Secondly, redistibution of wealth is the cornerstone of Obama’s economics. Please do not attempt to deny this. And redistribution of wealth is the cornerstone of socialism. So I don’t need to make a list, sir.
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So you repeat talk radio/FOXbot lies and that means you don’t have to make a list. i get it. What you MEAN is that you CAN’T make a list. You are merely repeating stuff you heard and haven’t a clue as to what it means.

I understand. There are more than a few like you out there. I know you don’t listen to talk radio or watch Fox. It’s just COINCIDENCE that you mouth their lies. They are actually following YOU around and stealing YOUR thoughts which is why they are identical. Gotcha. Thanks for the input.

As to taxes? I don’t pay a lot. I paid 9% in taxes last year. It was sweet. I pay nmore for my daughters tuition at Woodward and my wifes PhD at Vanderbuilt than I do for taxes. I love all the tax breaks I get. I won’t say they are fair though.

But you keep paying my taxes, and Rush’s taxes, and the Koch brothers taxes for us. We need the help………..

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So I will end with saying this obama is not my president no one will change my mind on this.

Unless you leave this Country and renounce your citizenship he IS your President you traitor.

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“Poor md can’t even stand behind his own mumbled questions and runs off a la Donald Trump. Say hi to The Hair for us.”

I stand behind everything I post Aqua, including the part that clarifies that it may or may not amount to anything…….what part of that do you not understand??

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You must not have much income if you’re able to take those education tax credits, Fredo.

Maybe things will turn around for you after the liberal fascist is done hosing our economy.

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Del:

I know you to be correct on the debt crisis, and strongly suspect you are also right about war. I also believe that Obama is hastening the debt crisis, and doing so intentionally. We can only hope that he hasn’t weakened us too much militarily to survive a war.

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So just as I suspected, Fred. You have nothing. And if you are only paying 9% you must be cheating, which makes you the traitor that you keep wanting to spew on everyone. And no, I do not have time to listen to talk radio. I actually do not listen to any radio. Radio in my car broke, and since I only commute 3 miles to work, I do not see the need to spend the money to fix it. But since you cannot seem to come up with a logical arguement for anything, you just keep talking junk. It just confirms everything I already know about folks that lean in the direction you seem to. We are done here. Thanks for playing.

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No Fred he’s not our president, he’s the president. We don’t historically do kings in America. One of the big differences between conservatives and the left is that we view government including the presidency as in the service of the people. The left views the people as dependent and subservient to government.

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If you we’re in my tax bracket, Fredo, you’d know that all the tax breaks you’re bragging about don’t exist once your income reaches a respectable level.

Keep striving, little buddy. Maybe you’ll get there one day.

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“We can only hope that he hasn’t weakened us too much militarily to survive a war.”

You mean by the increase in spending over the last 4 years?

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Del at 8:28pm, you sir are exactly correct. Excellent comment.

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I don’t know your tax bracket Lil Bar. I DO know that there isn’t one higher than mine. You can scream all you want, but it doesn’t alter the facts. Your “belief” is irrelevant. Hell, you “believed” Romeny was going to be President. Your beliefs have been proven faulty in the past. Nothing has changed apparently.

Go ahead, call me names. Tell lies. It matters not. You can’t produce a single fact.

Damn I wish Bruno was here. Now THERE is a man who can back what he says with some truth………

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Fred, I backed up what I said exactly. Sorry if you cannot understand. And you are the one that is name calling, not I.

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Del

November 12th, 2012
8:28 pm

No Fred he’s not our president, he’s the president.
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He is the President of THE UNITED STATES. Are you a citizen of the United States you traitor? If the answer is yes, then he is YOUR President. George Bush (both father and son) was also your President. Vladimir Putin wasn’t.

Vladimir Putin is the President of Russia. He is A President, but he ain’t MY President or OUR president. Anyone other than a traitor would understand that.

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You cons are right this whole debt thing is Obama’s problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcvLHHMC4iI&feature=player_embedded

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Fred, you’re only making the usual ass out of yourself here as you do with regularity next door. Calm down.

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Glenn Beck, your 8:34 has been repeated about a dozen times in the past week. Considering that both Mitt and Ann Romney have both insisted this was his last campaign, it was neither truthful nor funny any of the previous times either.

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Fred ™@8:28 pm:

This shall be the only time I address or answer you, Fred. You are nothing to me, as in totally irrelevant to my life. I care nothing for your posts and have no regard for your opinion. Now, run along and try to impress less intelligent people, for they truly are the only ones you might impress.

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November 12th, 2012
8:41 pm

Fred ™@8:28 pm:

This shall be the only time I address or answer you, Fred. You are nothing to me, as in totally irrelevant to my life. I care nothing for your posts and have no regard for your opinion. Now, run along and try to impress less intelligent people, for they truly are the only ones you might impress.
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In other words, you have nothing. I understand. It is a common occurrence for folks like you. I like your suggestion, except I doubt there really are less intelligent people than you and I wasn’t trying to impress you. I was trying to get some truth and honesty out of you. Vain attempt I see……….

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“Democratic administrations at least try to serve ALL the people.”

You’re probably in your early years as a concerned citizen and watcher of politics, so I won’t interfere with your delusions.

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HELP WANTED: Republican Presidential candidate 2016. Must be good at speaking out of both sides of your mouth. Must excel at getting people to believe lies. Must be willing to sell out to powerful corporate interests like Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adelson, Americans for Progress, etc. Those with backbone need not apply.

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Good grief, we’ve got a collective consciousness believer spewing her BS. Fortunately she’s no longer twisting young minds on a full time basis.

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Lil Bar? Did you forget what private school you attended or are you a public school loser?

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Fred

I prefer Glenn the “dry drunk” over the oxy laden rants of Rush

Rush is Barnum & Bailey of talk radio. He knows he is playing his audience. Good for him. He is making the big bucks

But Glenn, I think he really believes his diatribes and rants.

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WOW KYLE! You went from sucking up to idiots to calling them idiots,. You got it right this time.

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Everyone is entitled to be stupid from time to time, but these ol’ boys are abusing the privilege.

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“WHAT does md do about the $10 TRILLION deficit??”

Vote accordingly…….and if at first one does not succeed, try, try again……..

In the mean time, I’ll waste time here and there on a blog or two voicing my concern until the day of reckoning comes for me or for others…….the right direction will reveal itself one way or the other, I just hope we don’t have to suffer too bad when we find out…….a la Greece.

Yes, for the most part us individuals will go on about our daily routines, unless things get worse and that changes by default…….won’t stop me from trying to help those “see the light”.

But knowing we choose everything we do, I’ll never agree to vote for others to pay my share just because they have it……..

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Goodnight all. Fred, you are amusing, if nothing else. And you are just that. Nothing else. The rest of your left wing buddies on here are a riot as well. Again, I have been enlightened. I now understand how Obama could get elected to not only one, but 2 terms. But that one is not so amusing.

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Dusty,

Fred only insults himself. He can’t touch conservative bloggers well not most conservative bloggers.

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Fredo has a Fredo complex, and if you don’t know what I mean, you’ve never seen The Godfather!

“Y’ever think of that, Mike?”

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Lil’ Barry Bailout – OBAMAPHONE!!!

November 12th, 2012
9:08 pm

Fredo has a Fredo complex, and if you don’t know what I mean, you’ve never seen The Godfather!

“Y’ever think of that, Mike?”
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So does your lack of the name of the private school you attended mean that you are in fact a victim of public school LiL Barry?

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I fear so Mr. Beck. I think I’ll get an answer out of her right after I get the name of the Private School LiL barry attended………

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Third and Fourth generation “Johnny Rebs” continuing to carry the torch of ignorance and hate passed down from father to son.

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Dear Fred

,I’m glad you can remember when there was no need to mention specific problems here.That was before you came and tried to insult ever conservative that posts.

You can repeat my posts any time you want. I tried not to be specific but you have been so rude and disruptive I called it to your attention.

I’m sorry you can’t get along with anyone. One of these days, you will realize who causes the problems in your behavior..

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You keep writing those checks to “Vanderbuilt” and Woodward Academy, little buddy, and maybe the women in your life can get you where you want to be!

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Fred, a challenge for you:

Please write a substantial post on this subject without insulting anyone or calling them names.

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Tiberius

So true!

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I don’t know, Glen, Fredo only pays 9% federal tax and still qualifies for all kinds of tax breaks…can’t be doing all that well.

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Charles Douglas Edwards

Good words to read before I close out my evening here. We are blessed.

Goodnight…

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Lil’ Barry Bailout – OBAMAPHONE!!!

November 12th, 2012
9:28 pm

You keep writing those checks to “Vanderbuilt” and Woodward Academy, little buddy, and maybe the women in your life can get you where you want to be!
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I’ve been where I want to be for a while little man. I’ll take your silence to mean that while you repeat that “public school victim” as an insult to others, the truth is that you went to public schools too.

Don’t worry. I’m more than a match for the gang bang tactics of you T%ibey, Dusty and little Dellie.

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“So, thank you.”

You are welcome.

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Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right

November 12th, 2012
9:43 pm

If Fred were running for president on the GOP ticket, he’d be branded a felon and a tax cheat.
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Why? What laws have I broken. I don’t appreciate you calling me a criminal. I can’t believe that Kyle allows that type of behavior here.

Have you anything to offer to back up your vicious lie?

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In this country we have hosts and parasites. Throughout all of these states there are both hosts and parasites as we all live next door to each other. The problem is that the Federal and state governments create the relationship whereby the parasites are able to feed off the hosts. The government does the stealing of resources from the hosts so that the parasites don’t have to get their hands dirty. And by parasites I am referring to everyone who gets their paycheck via the actions of the government. That not only includes those who receive a direct check straight out of the bank accounts of the productive, but also those whose companies have government contracts, work for the government, etc. In a truly free society, all income would have to be earned through voluntary exchange of goods/services for money – or through charitable (voluntary) giving.

If you are not prepared to end this relationship with your fellow citizens and cast your lot into the free marketplace, then there is no point in signing a secession petition. It is the perpetuation of this relationship that has destroyed this country, and freedom from the oppressive regime in Washington (whether run by republicans or democrats – or both) will not be gained by recreating it again at the state level.

Seceed from the idea that it is government’s place to tell others how to live their lives, spend their money, run their business, what to put into their bodies, what to do with their bodies or their property, so long as they are not hurting anyone or violating anyone else’s rights.

We can have freedom once again in this country if everyone would reject the idea that government exists to do everything to everyone else that you would not be allowed to do on your own. We only need to seceed from that tragically well-ingrained idea.

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If Texas should be allowed to secede.It should be contingent upon taking all the Bush clan with the secession.

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@tiberius…you really should do d modercrum of research before repeating trash. Below is the link to the St lucie County official results…

http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf

Anyone that had the good sense to check the races would have found that about 125k voted out of 175k registered. I guess the good sense part relieves you of the obligation.

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@md…if you had bothered to READ the document you linked in you 5:18 you would have found the vote count for President was about 125k out of 175k registered voters…get past the screwy summary page and READ the actual totals before playing your partin the next Internet legend.

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There’s an article on Politico that details the partisan hackery undertaken by the fair and balanced Fox “News” and MSNBC leading up to the election. In the 8 weeks leading up to last Tuesday Fox “News” made 8 negative mentions for Obama for every positive mention. They report, I decide…..umm…..Obama is bad? Gosh I sure am glad they do thinking for me because I’m an just an American mushroom.

BUT…….and a big but at that…..the Fox hackery paled in comparison to that engaged in by flaming libs over at MSNBC. They laid waste to Fox with 32 negative mentions about Romney for every positive mention. That had to be a tiring process, digging that much mud, they must be all tuckered out. I should have watched because then I would have known Romney is bad, really bad, much worse than Obama bad. Thanks for deciding for me MSNBC, it saves me the trouble of trying to think for myself.

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Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right

November 12th, 2012
10:29 pm

Fred. Really: your 9:53?

Pay attention to the Obama campaign, moron.
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Hmmmm. Pretty interesting. You folks abuse the hell out of others and then claim to be victims. You have called me among many other things tonight, a felon, a moron, and a tax cheat.

I see Kyle regulates his board really well.

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“No you read the first page of a 170 page document and jumped to a conclusion that is false. Out of a 170 page document you picked the only two pages that don’t provide official results.”

Actually, I was going off the comment made by the supervisor of elections where she herself stated she had never seen anything like that in prior elections. And yes, there is some confusion in terminology with number of voters and cards cast, which is also screwy because even with a 2 page ballot the numbers do not add up. And I also qualified the entire post when I made it by stating it may or may not be anything at all.

After READING further on the subject though, one would be able to see the mess that it really is as the 2 different recounts have produced two different tallies and there are votes that suddenly just appeared out of nowhere.

So I stand by my original post that something very well may be fishy…..

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They can self deport.

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md

Let me know when the story breaks otherwise you can continue to be the gullible little guy surfing wako right wing websites….

Same ones that convinced you of an Obama defeat last week…

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Why is it that some folks always have to resort to name calling and insults? ……is name calling and insults in the playbook somewhere?

What does that do for you exactly??

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Dusty @ 8:44 pm
“This blog is turning into another fiasco just like the weekend.”

Dusty,

I would dare to spoil your day by agreeing with you, had you not spoiled your assessment by accusing only one side.

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I guess neglecting his job doesn’t quite qualify as an impeachable offense:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-obama-foreign-policy-20121113,0,4742752.story
National security issues were put off until after the election.

Was protecting the diplomats in Libya put off until after the election? Was the shooting down of the spy plane hidden until after the election? Was Petraeus making himself comprised put off until after the election? The delay in reporting these things gives you pause about the integrity of the military, FBI and CIA.

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So, what? You don’t want people to exercise their first amendment right to petition the government? Well, I’m going to. I’ve signed every petition on there, and it is not out of anger, it’s because I don’t want big government liberal policies. Do you have a problem with that? I really don’t care. I’m not going to “Stop. Just stop.”
Also, saying they’re all birthers is just idiotic talking points. Maybe if you didn’t make wild accusations, you’d be able to get a real writing job, But, things like that aren’t very accepted in well-known papers.

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The oversea military votes didn’t get to the U.S. until the day after the election. Bengazi is just heating up without real fire ,Obama looks strained in his appearences. His Watergate is coming–if you are not old enough to know what Watergate was for Nixon–it amounts to lies and cover ups to get elected and eventual downfall. It just takes time..Even the Democrats should not be proud of his Chicago Mob Tactics.

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Hi again Kyle – Do you moderate your board at all? Of 9 pages, maybe two are on topic, probably less.

Anyway, back on topic, my b/f once read the ENTIRE constitution, every word of it, with an eye to what it had to say about secession. He says it doesn’t address the matter at all. That puts the issue firmly in the hands of SCOTUS (see my earlier post), although the Congress of the US could override their ’secession is impossible’ ideas by passing a constitutional amendment subject to ratification by the states. Who is left out of this equation? The executive branch. Therefore secession petitions to Obama are pointless.

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In each election, people do not get who they want, you just cannot stop playing because you was unable to get what you wanted. Disappointment is a part of life, just like paying taxes (for some). People will have to change the old outlook on how we are divided in the first place. Georgia is halfway dead with bad housing, little or no healthcare, furlough days for teachers, 400+Million speed sign on 285, no transportation, and other bad financial decisions. Georgia had the worst economic disasters and the Government makes very bad decision. Georgia could not stand alone because everyone would move out of the state.

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@Tsu Doh Nimh

Texas has the 15th largest GDP in the world and the 2nd largest economy in the US. Hardly a 3rd world country in the making. Trust me, Obammys pathetic disunion of nanny states wont be needed or missed. See ya!

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“10 TRILLION DOLLARS is not even on my radar.”

Coming from Sister Sarah, that’s not surprising. She doesn’t care about the paychecks of the future, just so long as she gets hers today.

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I voted for Romney because Obama failed. It is not a racial situation. Obama failed period. Idiots voted for him becuase they are under the impression they don’t have to work, they don’t have to pay taxes, they are going to get a free phone, and free healthcare. Those who have worked hard, saved their money for their future, have medical insurance and I might add, pay high premiums for it out of their own pocket are now going to be taxed at a higher rate. It’s about the economy. There are no jobs. Thanks to Bill Clinton who signed the NAFTA agreement, all the jobs were sent to other countries. Yes, this country is divided. People who worked hard are going to be punished while the loser population and the young ones who think corporate america is raping and pilaging our nation, we are in essence, all doomed.

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Have you ever tried to tell someone who has no sense of humor that they have no sense of humor?

That’s how it is with “independents” who post non stop rightwing lies… try and call them out on being rightwing shills and they insist they’re “independent”… in and of itself another lie. I don’t blame them for trying to distance themselves from the rightwingnuts and teatards though, liars and losers that they are.

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“Have you ever tried to tell someone who has no sense of humor that they have no sense of humor? ”

Much like trying to explain reality to libs who live in their fantasy world, Troll.

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Real men don’t ask or petition for what they were born with.
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One only has to personally nullify Washington.
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It’s easier than you think as per the growing majority of Americans who refused to vote in Washington’s rigged election shows.
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Forward Freedom.

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Kyle sure is popular among the liberals with this column.

Beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing.

Dr. Sowell said it best:

Most of Obama’s arguments were rotten, if you bothered to put them under scrutiny. But someone once said that it is amazing how long the rotten can hold together, if you don’t handle it roughly.

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On election night, the rotten held together because Mitt Romney had not handled it roughly with specifics. Romney was too nice to handle Obama’s absurdities roughly. He definitely out-niced Obama— as John McCain had out-niced Obama in 2008, and as Dewey out-niced Truman back in 1948.

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In this year’s first presidential debate, Obama out-niced Romney. But, when he lost out doing that, he then reversed himself, became the attacker, and ultimately the winner on election night, despite a track record that should have buried him in a landslide.

http://www.creators.com/opinion/thomas-sowell/nice-losers.html

Take Fred, for instance. He wants the freedom to attack but then cries “foul” when conservatives respond in kind. Fred even creates attacks where there are none.

Oh well…another day another dollar or is it .60 cents.

schnirt

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@md…there are clearly accounting issues in St. Lucie, but when you post trash like this…

“Seems someone certainly has some splainin to do when there are 73,541 votes that just miraculously appeared. And if I’m not mistaken, Obama also carried Fl by only 74,000 votes. And this is just one county.”

That intimates widespread voter fraud where there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER you just add your voice to the “lying loonies”.

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“winning is what matter to you people”

Fine. Call Obama and tell him to concede, since winning isn’t so important to YOU, Numbers.

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No, Numbers, that makes the American people the losers.

But you’ll catch on to that eventually.

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The Republicans cannot afford to lose a single birther vote. Or klan vote…

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So now you’re complaining about Fox News telling the truth, Reality.

Ooooookay!

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The reason you libs don’t want any state to secede is that you know that in 25 years, you won’t be able to defend yourselves from any attacks, and we’ll own your debt and will refuse to bail you out.

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Sidebar. Obama spent his money wisely and stayed within the system, and common sense. Meanwhile Karl Rove spent money like a drunken Dixiecrat and had to pay media market rates that on average were 3-4 time higher than normal. Put another way, it was like Rove spent others money on just Super Bowl ads, while Obama spent the same amount for a whole NFL season.

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The secessionists are hallucinating. The Confederate States tried it and Abe Lincoln, General Grant and I made it very hard on them. I would advise against trying it again,

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For all those signing the petition: LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT. Please take Romney’s advise and self-deport.

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Pizza for Papa!!

Attn all Republicans/conservatives. Be sure to make a purchase from your local Papa Johns Pizza this Friday, 11/16/12, as a show of support for “Papa Johns” stance against ObamaCare.

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Papa Johns is some of the nastiest tasting pizza around.

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“Papa Johns is some of the nastiest tasting pizza around.”

And your preference?
Dominoes?
Jenos pizza rolls?
Chef-boy-ar-dee Pizza in a box?
The restaurant that supplied Steve Martin/The Jerk “Pizza in a Cup”?

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I prefer Pizza Hut thin crust, but if you take Pillsbury pizza dough, a jar of Kroger’s pizza sauce, some 5 cheese Italian blend and some pepperoni you can make a pretty good one in less time than it takes any of the chains to deliver.

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We must stay united for our national defense; but…the people have spoken- let’s divide it up per politico: CA for the gays; TX for the latinos(illegal); NY for the blacks(entitled); FL for the cubans(legal); MS for the blacks(employed); CO for the dopers(legal); WA for the junkies(illegal); MA for the rich(taxed); CT for the rich(loop-holed); etc…

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Silly Edward doesn’t understand the concept of cause and effect.

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I see my leg humper is back for another day of schooling.

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You are an idiot. Period. Obama’s agenda is to destroy this country – and he is doing a fantastic job of that. He is probably amazed with himself. We the People must return to Our Constitution otherwise this country is lost. In 4 years, provided he doesn’t pull a Chavez, the birth truth will come out – and he will have no place to hide. Why would anyone hide the detaills of a Harvard Education? Why am I arguing with a 2 year old? You’ll see. If I am wrong – I will return to my Country of Origin.

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[...] Self-stylized conservative opinion journalist Kyle Wingfield of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution wrote an opinion piece yesterday criticizing the secessionist petitions. [...]

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7.5% of obozo’s voters from 2008 have already seceded from the liberal world of hate, lies and filth, and this is a good start….

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Perhaps Obama will proclaim himsself KING and we can do away with these silly elections.

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@Repubs
Maybe you should give your advice to President Obama and Biden, Reid and Schumer. Quit the name calling and denigration. Act like you represent all the people, not just one wing of one party. Its incumbent upon the president to work with Congress, not just sit back and try to blame all of his troubles on them and cast aspersions on any who don’t agree with his approach.

Obama’s approach is to say, “I want to work with the Republicans. They are low life scum trying to steal from the poor and give to the rich who want to see America fail, but I’m willing to work with them if they vote for everything I propose. I’ll even let them in the photograph when I sign MY bill.”

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Absolutely Carlos. Elections are time consuming and tedious.

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” those who scream “socialist” but can’t define the word”

For clarity, socialism comes in various forms and to varying degrees…….the proper term when applied to this country should be “socialistic”. And one can look at it on a sliding line graph moving left and right.

Whether one wants to acknowledge it or not, adding another “socialistic” entitlement program to the stable of entitlement programs has moved the pointer on that line to the left……which is closer to socialism and further away from capitalism……….

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Instead of belittling secession petition signers, there needs to be a thorough look at why they sign.

Of course they’re doing that….Studying mental illness is the first step to a cure.

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Anyone else know some “we need to secede” folks who were spouting last week how they wanted to move to Australia because “Their President is a Christian who stands behind his beliefs?” HAHAHAHA!

(FYI for the slow people: Their Prime Minister is an unmarried female atheist who stands for health care and women’s rights. Heh…)

Thanks for the laughs, y’all.

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I am so sick of my Republican friends crying over this election. I know a few who would sign a pro-secession petition in a minute. However, these are the same people who never got off their butts to do one thing to help their party. Not one of them tried to change my opinion, not one wore a button, attended any rally, offered to take anyone to vote, no yard sign, not even a bumper sticker! So if they aren’t going to put any effort into helping their Republican party then I don’t expect they will do much to help the state secede from the union- other than a signature.

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My my Aquagirl,

Tell us all about mental illness and the cure. We could send the info to Washington.

The petition signers are not crazy. They are just TIRED of the whole crazy Chicago four year kit’n'kabootles which have all of us $16 trillion in debt. Now that’s a REAL kabootle!

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“So “socialist” or “socialistic” is a free-floating pejorative that you can trot out to substitute for having an actual thought?
Since Teddy Roosevelt, the injection of regular doses of what you would call socialism has strengthened and preserved our capitalist economy.”

No, it’s common sense. Socialism/socialistic refer to ideas of group effort vs individual effort, and all that goes with both.

And the “strengthened and preserved” part is highly debatable when we are in the middle of an economic crisis caused in part by a stable of entitlement programs we are having a hard time paying for………

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Dear Mr. Wingfield, Must be easy from your lofty point of view to tell us to sit down and shut up.

I have two sons age 29 and 28. My oldest recently married and they would like to start a family. Both boys are afraid to even considering making career changes.

Four more years of Obama’s disastrous economy and wreckless foreign policy will rob them of the best of their earning years. If we do manage to finally get a fiscally sound POTUS it will take four more years to even hope for a marginal change in the economy and my sons will be close to 40.

You obviously do not live in the real world with the rest of us. Go grocery shopping prices are sky high.

Re-electing Obama does not make it a wise choice…Obama, LMSM and his supporters are turning the highest office in America in to a shameless reality show. The whole world is laughing at us.

Birthers how dare you??? We are suppose to have the power at the state level according to the tenth ammendment. The Feds role under the Constitution is limited and THEY ARE WAY OUT OF THEIR BOUNDARIES. Big changes for big problems. That is if the ME does not try to wipe us of the face of the earth along with Israel.

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I say go! you knuckleheads – GO! However, leave all, and I mean ALL of your benefits behind! I’m sick of your tantrums anyway! You can’t have your way so (boo, hoo hoo). (LOL). You racist knuckleheads….

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Kyle,
This is more saber rattling than anything else. These people feel that the federal government is too intrusive and their spending is out of control. Thy’re probably right on both cases, Secession is a knee jerk reaction and won’t happen (the exception may be Texas).

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Black label

You surely are mixed up. (messed up?)

Worship Gov Deal? Worship? Try going to church and find out what worship means. Deal is a good governor, helping Georgia move ahead in ethical ways using the talent in our state. Good deal!

Fly to Australia? Nope. That would probably mean kangeroo flight attendants. I’m not jumping with them! Besides, I love the USA even with a rising $16 trillion debt. Did I mention that before?

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md;

Stripped of all the post-Hayek mythology, socialism is just an economic model that features collective ownership of “the means of production” and allocates goods and resources through central planning. In it’s pure form it doesn’t work. But then, capitalism in its pure form doesn’t work either.
That’s all it is; an economic model. Calm down, it wasn’t invented in Hades to sap the soul of man.
When there are two competing economic models, neither or which works without elements of the other, how can you howl for purity?
By the way, one aspect of both capitalism and socialism is that a government’s revenues must be appropriate for things like- oh I don’t know, maybe two wars and a new giant entitlement program?

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The petition signers are not crazy. They are just TIRED would-be traitors.

You fake conservatives hate on Uncle Sam and our system of government/laws all you want. Seriously.

THAT is a big reason why you Republicans just got your arses kicked last Tuesday.

Which is the best thing that could have happened…

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Johnzy Q

I believe you have been talking to Madame Rosarita on Buford Highway. . Sounds like it.

A Democratic sweep? We are not talking about cleaning floors here. I think the Democrats will continue to meander around and dabble a bit. Four more years ought to do them in. If they last that long. Now get busy sweeping. Yeah!!

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Maybe the list of petition signers should be checked to see if any of them are receiving government money (Social Secuity, medicare, medicad, food stamps, etc.) If they are, stop the payments immediately. No free ride for you.

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Agree with liberallefty… to wit… put up or shut up. States voluntarily joined the Union they can voluntarily leave. As I tell my friends this was Lincons fatal mistake, holding the Union together.
In the 1970’s it was suggested that the Soviet Union would break up… people laughed at the prospect… I think the US is not too far behind the prediction that the Union will break up or least allow the old Confederacy to leave. We Americans outside the old Confederacy just don’t cotton to your world view.

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Good article. Part of the issue is the polarizing nature of our two party system. We could have nominated Gandhi and Hitler and you would have 40% on one side, 40% on the other and a battle for the remaining 20%.

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Hiya Dusty.

Is your ample rear end still stinging from last Tuesday’s spanking?

That RINO Bobby Jindal says that you need to stop being the “stupid party”.

I disagree!

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