10:44 am November 7, 2012, by Kyle Wingfield
Here’s the third installment of the Google+ Hangouts that Jay Bookman, Aaron Gould Sheinin and I have been doing. Spoiler alert: You’ll see more disagreement between Jay and me than in the first two…
Please feel free to keep talking on the thread downstairs as well.
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Darwin
November 7th, 2012
11:08 am
Only losers console themselves with the mandate debate. Congratulations President Obama!
Rightwing Troll
November 7th, 2012
11:08 am
Jay is wrong. Huntsman was a great candidate.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
11:09 am
Brett Baier to Karl Rove, on the air:
Ultimately, it was left to Fox’s Bret Baier to make a feeble excuse for the chastened Rove. “Maybe we got you a slow computer,” he offered weakly.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
11:09 am
Four more years
More Conservative tears
AmericaIsFirst
November 7th, 2012
11:10 am
If this isn’t a mandate I don’t know what one looks like. He got the EC and Popular vote. The people have spoken. IF all of the Republicans in the house’s term had been up for re-election I’m sure that the Dems would have gotten more traction, probably got the majority back.
These Republicans are stubborn, but it takes more than blind determination to make a difference. IF they would just start acting like representatives of the people and start LISTENING instead of dictating to their constitutients they might deserve another term. If they keep fighting progress they are doomed to obsolence.
Kyle Wingfield
November 7th, 2012
11:12 am
AmericaIsFirst: Every House member is up for election every two years.
Kyle Wingfield
November 7th, 2012
11:13 am
Rightwing Troll expresses a truism: The further to the left Republicans are, the more liberals like them.
It’s the same for center-right Democrats and conservatives, of course.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 7th, 2012
11:18 am
The GOP needs to jettison the religious right. Period. End of sentence.
If you don’t like abortion, don’t have one.
But leave the rest of those who do alone.
If you don’t like gay marriage, don’t marry a gay person.
But leave the rest of those who do alone.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 7th, 2012
11:20 am
“Jay is wrong. Huntsman was a great candidate.”
I actually agree with Jay for once. It wasn’t Romney. No candidate could have turned the tide of personality Obama has and his payoffs to union teachers and auto workers with taxpayer funds.
And Huntsman would have been infinitely worse. The guy is certified Verbal Valium.
jconservative
November 7th, 2012
11:21 am
Statement this AM from Marco Rubio:
“”In the next Congress, I am committed to working on upward mobility policies that will ensure people who work hard and play by the rules can rise above the circumstances of their birth and leave their children better off,…. The conservative movement should have particular appeal to people in minority and immigrant communities who are trying to make it, and Republicans need to work harder than ever to communicate our beliefs to them.”
Will they?
The numbers I have seen show Latinos were 19% of voters and Obama carried 69% of their vote.
Add that to Obama’s margin of 68% among unmarried women, 93% among blacks, 74% among Asians and 70% among Jews. And Obama took 50% among Catholics, of whom Latinos are a significant number. Romney took protestants 56% to 43%.
It is easy to sound the death knoll for the Republican Party. It is not dead. But it does need “fixing”, as we southerners are fond of saying.
I heard a number this AM – each month 50,000 Latinos turn 18 and register to vote.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 7th, 2012
11:21 am
A 2 percent win in the raw vote does not a mandate make.
Hillbilly D
November 7th, 2012
11:22 am
In my opinion, the Republicans have lost the “Reagan Democrats”. If they want to win, they have to figure out how to get them back.
HDB
November 7th, 2012
11:22 am
Republicans need a systemic change; they can no longer fail to embrace the changing demographic of the nation, persist in racial fear-mongering, voter suppression/intimidation, persist in denigrating an ever-growing segment of this nation, create policies that marginalize a growing minority population….
Republicans can’t continue to be viewed as just the “white peoples’ party”; the ol’ Confederacy is slowly dying…..
AmericaIsFirst
November 7th, 2012
11:27 am
Kyle, Thanks for the correction. Me Bad…
JB
November 7th, 2012
11:27 am
Mandate? 56 million of 115 million voted against the President. About 2 1/2 mil people difference. I would think he would get together and try to work with the GOP, and yes it’s a two way street.He will get his precious tax increase, and full bore cluster F____ Obamacare, but HALF the voters in this country DIDN’T vote for him.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 7th, 2012
11:27 am
HDB, I have a question for you. I’ll have to see than answer later as I have to go out the rest of the day, but please try to answer it seriously and with some sense of thought.
Why do blacks continuously vote for the party that supports the continuation of Social Security and Medicare, when the vast majority of them do not live long enough to use those programs?
Kyle Wingfield
November 7th, 2012
11:28 am
HDB @ 11:22: It would probably behoove the GOP to counter the backlash to voter ID laws — which I think are necessary — by taking proactive steps to help minorities get IDs. I mean taking the process to them, where they live and/or work. Make it clear the laws are about reducing fraud, not voting. And they haven’t done enough, in terms of actions, to make that clear.
Aquagirl
November 7th, 2012
11:30 am
The further to the left Republicans are, the more liberals like them.
That’s true, if you define “left” as “not crazy nutbag $#!^.”
Conservatives/Republicans have been using a fairly small base of crazies for support—-people who believe climate change is a conspiracy, gay marriage will end civilization, Democrats are allied with Satan, blah, blah, blah.
In the long term this bites you on the @$$ because people eventually notice climatologists are not evil scientists and their gay neighbors don’t mow the lawn in leather chaps. Opposition to things like science and choice in who you marry aren’t conservative in any way. They’re not connected to any political philosophy, and in some cases are in opposition to what conservatism espouses. They’re just hot-button issues that appeal to emotion. Conservatism has no center or clear thought process.
That’s a big problem.
saywhat?
November 7th, 2012
11:31 am
“Make it clear the laws are about reducing fraud, not voting. And they haven’t done enough, in terms of actions, to make that clear”
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There is a reason for that Kyle. In order to do one, the other has to be true.
zeke
November 7th, 2012
11:32 am
Only in his and Jay’s mind!
Tall
November 7th, 2012
11:33 am
…”Republicans need a systemic change; they can no longer fail to embrace the changing demographic of the nation, persist in racial fear-mongering, voter suppression/intimidation, persist in denigrating an ever-growing segment of this nation, create policies that marginalize a growing minority population….
Can you elaborate on all this allegory? This is why Obama won? There is no proof to this nonsense,but if you express it often enough….enough folks and the media will believe it.
saywhat?
November 7th, 2012
11:35 am
“Why do blacks continuously vote for the party that supports the continuation of Social Security and Medicare, when the vast majority of them do not live long enough to use those programs?”
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And conversely, why do the majority of lower middle class whites vote for the party that supports policies that increase the shift of wealth to the top 1% when an even vaster majority of THEM will never be part of that demograhpic?
saywhat?
November 7th, 2012
11:36 am
“demographic”
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
11:37 am
Why do blacks continuously vote for the party that supports the continuation of Social Security and Medicare, when the vast majority of them do not live long enough to use those programs?
You really don’t know? Most people make plans on living into their 70’s and 80’s. Most people don’t say, “well, my race usually dies before then so I guess I’ll vote against this.”
the vast majority of them do not live long enough to use those programs
data source or just pulling more stuff out yer…
saywhat?
November 7th, 2012
11:38 am
“A 2 percent win in the raw vote does not a mandate make.”
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but losing the popular vote and having to win an election via lawsuit does?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
11:42 am
The life expectancy for black men in 2008 was 70.8 years, up from 68.8 years in 2003 but still well below the 76.2 years for white men (who had an average life span of 75.3 years in 2003), Harper and his colleagues found. Life expectancy for black women rose from 75.7 to 77.5 years, while the life span for white women grew from 80.3 years to 81.2 years.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/05/science/la-sci-life-expectancy-gap-20120606
Maybe Tib just doesn’t know what age you need to be to get SS? Nah, he just pulled something outta his rear that fit his intended narrative.
Bruno
November 7th, 2012
11:42 am
Although Romney may not have been the most dynamic candidate, I’m still trying to figure out what motivated the majority of Americans to vote for Obama. What did he do to deserve a second term??
It looks like 4 more years of mediocrity.
Bruno
November 7th, 2012
11:43 am
TBS–If you poke your head in, let me know what your charity of choice is, and I’ll make good on our wager.
HDB
November 7th, 2012
11:50 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 7th, 2012
11:27 am
To give you the best answer I can:
Prior to 1964, the preponderance of African Americans were not considered a part of the American populace; it took passage of teh Civil Rights Act for African Americans to get full constitutional protections. Because LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act and the changes that the GOP underwent to be viewed by African Americans as the “white peoples’ party, African Americans shifted their loyalties to the Democratic Party. Since 1964, the Democrats have done much to maintain minority constitutional protections; part of those protections is the participation of Social Security and Medicare. The life expectancy of minorites has been historically lower…but it is growng; in some cases, survivor benefits of Social Security go to support the surviving spouse….so in essence, a part of an estate does go to the heirs.
Kyle Wingfield
November 7th, 2012
11:28 am
Kyle, the problem is that voter FRAUD is virtually non-existent! The primary reason that voter fraud became an issue in 2008 is the VOLUME of the minority vote that came out for the President. Republicans saw that, knew that they couldn’t win the battle for ideas nor the demographics….so they did all within their purvue to suppress the minorty vote!! That was made quite evident in PA, OH, FL!! When someone beats you by playing within the rules, somehow, the rules always get changed!! There were ELDERLY people who were disenfranchised because of voter-ID; there were EX-felons who were disenfranchised — particularly in FL…because their voting rights were not reinstated after they served their sentences! Republicans made it known that they were going to suppress the minority vote by any means necessary….but it STILL failed!!
If Republicans want to ensure the elimination of these abominations, then agree to a NATIONAL STANDARD for voting…don’t leave it to the states…..or the reincarnation of Jose Cuervo (Jim Crow in Spanish…) will occur……
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
11:50 am
Finn, I’m trying to have an adult conversation with HDB. Please stay out of this one.
10:10 am
November 7th, 2012
11:52 am
Obama is the first re-elected president since World War II not to improve his margin of victory and to get fewer Electoral College votes in re-election.
Alex Jones
November 7th, 2012
11:56 am
Obama does not have a mandate, but as President Bush once stated, “elections have consequences”.
That is a two way street.
I SEE RED PEOPLE
November 7th, 2012
11:58 am
Republicans told us their stirring victories in 2010 indicated a mandate.
I think the term is malappropriated. If 2010 was a GOP mandate, what we witnessed last night was a wholescale repudiation of Republican principles.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
11:58 am
Bruno
Listed it last night. Wasn’t sure if you were going to come on or not.
Hope all is well with PB and yourself.
http://www.lupus.org/webmodules/webarticlesnet/templates/georgia_home.aspx
JDW
November 7th, 2012
11:58 am
@Finn…”data source or just pulling more stuff out yer”
Nope standard Tiberius…just making $&!T up…here is a real data source that contridicts that nonsense…
http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/cats/births_deaths_marriages_divorces/life_expectancy.html
HDB
November 7th, 2012
11:58 am
Tall
November 7th, 2012
11:33 am
“Can you elaborate on all this allegory? This is why Obama won? There is no proof to this nonsense…..”
Actually, there IS proof!!
Romney stated that he needed to INCREASE the white vote and DECREASE the mnority vote in order for him to win!! Romney stated that he had to win at least 63% of the white vote…..he lost that demographoc by 3%. When he attached himself to the birthers (Donald Trump, for one), that exacerbated the racial animus from the GOP!!
In 1968, Kevin Phillips, the architect of Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” , publically stated that “blacks have no place in the GOP”; would you expect support for a party that feels that way about you???
If you note Republican policies, historically, they ignore the minority consiituencies; they fail to campaign in the inner cities, ask for minority votes….they fail to embrace Affirmative Action (which was a Republican policy), health care reform (another Republican policy), eduaction support to the public schools….these policies greatly affect the economic progressivity of ethnic minorities!!
JDW
November 7th, 2012
12:00 pm
Of course last week Tiberius was telling us all how Romney had closed the gender gap…yep closed right down to about 19%
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
12:01 pm
Tiberius @ 11:18
Neal Boortz was saying the same thing this morning.
HDB
November 7th, 2012
12:02 pm
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
11:50 am
Tibbi…the life expectancy statistics that Finn has brought forth ARE correct…..what Social Security does in that case acts as income insurance for spouses if the other dies!!
On a personal note, Social Security assisted me in caring for my mother until her transition last year; that income assisted in paying for her care due to her acquisition of Alzheimers’ Syndrome….that was additional insurance for her……..
4williec
November 7th, 2012
12:03 pm
A mandate is what Reagan had…when you have almost as many people that voted against you as for you, it’s hardly a mandate.
I SEE RED PEOPLE
November 7th, 2012
12:03 pm
Alienating the religious right would be akin to alienating the southern vote. It’s too intertwined to even consider. You broke it, you bought it.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
12:03 pm
LOL, the Democrats pounded the conservatives last night and the Conservatives are on here asking us to explain why that happened.
If you still don’t know, go back and read the postings of liberals over the past 10 years. But you folks don’t really want to know.
Interested Observer
November 7th, 2012
12:05 pm
Re: “Make it clear the laws are about reducing fraud, not voting.”
I wish that were true, but some Republicans have admitted, out loud, that the purpose of these voter ID measures are to suppress the vote to improve their chances for winning elections.
Suppressing the vote is also why Republicans across the country, especially Florida and Ohio, have sought to reduce early voting, confuse voters about what IDs are required, make it more difficult for provisional ballots to be counted, purge eligible voters from the rolls, send “poll watchers” to distribute false information about required ID, make it significantly more difficult to register in the first place, and much more.
The more people that vote, the worse Republicans do. So, their strategy is to reduce the number of people who can vote. Republicans have clearly decided that that is a lot easier than persuading people to vote for them.
Beyond The Middle of the Road
November 7th, 2012
12:11 pm
Please… in 2001 Bush claimed to have a mandate and political capital and he lost the popular vote. A win is a win is a win. I guess Bill Graham can now add Mormon back to his list of cults.
jimbob
November 7th, 2012
12:11 pm
Mandate, heck I’d like to have a womandate. That’s what the Democrats have. I would hope what elected officials have is a date with reality. Please bring a huge bottle of common sense with you. It starts by locking away that crazy senator from Kentucky.
HDB
November 7th, 2012
12:12 pm
…from the Washington Post…I think this is a good explanation:
Republican leaders awoke Wednesday to witness their grim future. Without a makeover, a party that skews toward older, white and male voters faces political peril in an increasingly diverse and complex America.
President Obama’s decisive victory over Mitt Romney served as a clinic in 21st-century politics, reflecting expanded power for black and Hispanic voters, dominance among women, a larger share of young voters and even a rise in support among Asians.
Nationally, the steady and inexorable decline of the white share of the electorate continued, dropping to 72 percent, down from 74 percent in 2008 and 77 percent in 2004.
The Hispanic share grew again, encompassing one in 10 voters nationally and reaching higher levels in states such as Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico, which have become comfortable turf for Democrats in presidential politics.
In Colorado, a state many Republicans thought they could win, Obama won three-quarters of Hispanics, up from 61 percent in 2008. Obama increased his Hispanic performance along similar lines in Florida as well, a result that included Democratic dominance in the heavily Puerto Rican swing precincts around Orlando and the election of a Cuban American Democrat to Congress, symbolizing the end of the GOP’s decades-long lock on that community.
“We’re going the way of the dinosaurs, and quick,” said David Johnson, a top GOP strategist in Florida. “The meteor’s already hit, and we’re just trying to wonder what the blast zone will look like.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/republicans-face-murky-political-future-in-increasingly-diverse-us/2012/11/07/3b71e4f2-28e7-11e2-96b6-8e6a7524553f_story.html?hpid=z3
4williec
November 7th, 2012
12:12 pm
Rush Limbaugh might have said it best…. (paraphrasing) when the choice is between work and santa clause, who votes against santa clause?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
12:13 pm
Can ya’ll find someone besides Mr Magic underwear for 2016?
ABR = Anybody but Romney
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
12:15 pm
4williec
Since the vast majority of those who voted for Obama do work, what is your point?
Rush also said Romney was going win
just saying
jimbob
November 7th, 2012
12:16 pm
Ah, come on I SEE RED PEOPLE, we kissed off the Soutern vote with the Civil Rights Bill, you know LBJ’s legislation that completed what Lincoln set out to do
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
12:17 pm
We spend a year explaining to Conservatives why we think Obama is the better choice and so this morning the Cons want to know…..why Obama is the better choice?
JDW
November 7th, 2012
12:17 pm
“Rush Limbaugh might have said it best…. (paraphrasing) when the choice is between work and santa clause, who votes against santa clause”
Of course you overlook the fact that believing Rush’s drivel is one of the reasons Republicans are becoming irrelevant.
Tom
November 7th, 2012
12:20 pm
Jay, may I respectfully suggest getting a better camera, placing it at a higher elevation, add some lighting, and a cleaner or more appealing background. Your message is a bit diluted by appearing as a circa-2003 dad on Yahoo webcam with his daughter away at college.
Mr. Dithers
November 7th, 2012
12:22 pm
I’m with jimbob on this one. Time to put Mitch McConnell in the attic with Ross Perot’s crazy aunt and keep him there. Is there any truth to the rumor that Mitch’s first utterance last night was “Our number one priority is now to make President Obama a two term President?
iggy
November 7th, 2012
12:26 pm
Dow pull up to 297…
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 7th, 2012
12:32 pm
So no word on Nate Silver or how accurate the polls were ?
How they weren’t skewed for the Democrats or that there was no media bias in them ?
Figures.
Ivan Cohen
November 7th, 2012
12:33 pm
With a House that is mostly Republican and a Senate that is mostly Democratic, I cannot see how any “mandate” can take place.
@ Finn McCool: Not only will there be four more years of Conservative tears, add gnashing of teeth to the mix.
@HDB: Since Kevin Phillips said that “blacks have no place in the GOP”, Colin Powell needs to get a memo about it, Condoleeza Rice could also be getting a memo. Then again maybe they are just satisfied being tolerated but not appreciated.
George Romney must be turning over in his grave regarding his son’s remarks about needing to increase the white vote and decreasing the minority vote.
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
12:35 pm
“Dow pull up to 297…”
EU Cuts 2013 Growth Forecast as Crisis Weighs on Germany EU Cuts 2013 Growth Forecast as Crisis Weighs on Germany
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-07/eu-cuts-2013-growth-forecast-as-crisis-weighs-on-germany.html
snoqualmiefalls
November 7th, 2012
12:37 pm
Congrats to the Prez. for winning the election without Florida, Florida just didn’t matter this time around.
As for this malarkey about the Left, please tell where Noam Chomsky was a factor, afterall he is the voice of the Left and I never see him quoted in the MSM.
I also noticed that the people who advocated “legitimate rape” and other nutty ideas wer soundly defeated, too bad they were so entertaining.
So now Mitt has been defeated, but he still is the leader of the TEA/GOP, where oh where will these folks go next? Impeachment? More racial name calling? More faux outrage over Benghazi? Please more entertainment from the TEA/GOP I have the popcorn and Scotch ready…. love to watch them go down flaming.
Bruno
November 7th, 2012
12:38 pm
http://www.lupus.org/webmodules/webarticlesnet/templates/georgia_home.aspx
TBS–I just donated $100 to the Lupus Foundation in satisfaction of our wager.
HDB
November 7th, 2012
12:41 pm
Ivan Cohen
November 7th, 2012
12:33 pm
You have to change the GOP from within….but if you don’t LISTEN…you can’t blame those who are trying to change it!! Look at what Republicans dod to Michael Steele after the 201 elections! Colin Powell got BOOED at the GOP Convention when he stated he supported Affirmative Action….actions have consequences…..
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
12:41 pm
Bruno
Thank you and those who are afflicted with lupus thank you.
Aquagirl
November 7th, 2012
12:48 pm
Of course you overlook the fact that believing Rush’s drivel is one of the reasons Republicans are becoming irrelevant.
LOL. Limpbaugh is whining teh wimmenz and dark folk are just too dumb to embrace their wonderful GOP role models.
Double down, cons. You can hold the next Republican convention in a Waffle House.
JDW
November 7th, 2012
12:48 pm
I saw Cheesy make a comment about Nate Silver and I expect he is celebrating big time…his biggest miss in a battleground projection for Obama was 1% low in IA…in most cases he is low on Obama by about 1/2 point. On Mittens his biggest miss was 1.7% high in CO…in most cases he OVERESTIMATED Mittens by a point or so…
All that gnashing of teeth and it turns out he slightly underestimated Obama and overestimated Mittens…Rasmussen…BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH…not even in the zip code on this one. It will be a race to the bottom between Rasmussen and Gallup.
PROUD NAVY VET
November 7th, 2012
12:49 pm
Tiberius, your a jerk, shut up. You, Rush, Koch Bros, Rove and the rest of you need to quit crying and wasting time. Hilary’s coming in 2016. So bring your lunch. And don’t give me that crap about your neither left or right. The repubs need to realize as long as you keep on the path your on you may never win POTUS again. The US has changed. It will never be the same. People are different. It ain’t how y’all feel it should be so everybody else is wrong. It’s a joke listening to Fox. People have changed to United States forever. The time for old rich white guys running everything is over. The day of the everyday man is here. I’ll wager y’all won’t give up without a fight. The leaders of the right have been using y’all for years. Just pitting people aganist people. Wake up. All you keep doing is making them rich. Look at rush. Ain’t no way a person spouting hate should make millions every year. But God has the final word. and what I’m saying is nobody knows what God is doing. So I’m not trying to say the election was God’s doing, I feel nothing happens without his permission. A very tiny part of me (.000001%) wished Romney won because with Europe the way it is, it is going to get a lot worse for the US, reguardless of who won and I don’t think it can be stopped. so the right will blame the President for what will happpen next year. Get over it.
Lynnie Gal
November 7th, 2012
12:50 pm
The GOP needs to get a clue about the makeup of America. It can no longer rely on the angry, old, white men to win national elections.They can pick up rural and local pockets of racists and self-righteous religious zealots, but they don’t appeal to the broad swath of America. And this crop of GOPer’s were particularly disgusting. I kept asking myself, who do they represent? The GOP attacked women, Latinos, gays, blacks, the poor, the middle class, college students, school children, teachers, firemen, policemen, government workers and the elderly. They represented rich angry old whites and ignorant, poor (or working class) angry old whites.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 7th, 2012
12:52 pm
Bruno
August 24th, 2012
10:17 pm
Special dedication to “We Don’t Need”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ3dAco1czQ
Obama is toast. All Hail Joseph Smith!!
Obama toast?
No, not so much.
Matz
November 7th, 2012
12:52 pm
snoqualmiefalls @ 12:37,
Nice breakdown!!! At some point, the GOP faithful need to take responsibility for their own failure. People who can’t understand why anyone would vote for Obama were not taking an honest look at our choices.
Partisay
November 7th, 2012
12:54 pm
Bruno
November 7th, 2012
12:38 pm
http://www.lupus.org/webmodules/webarticlesnet/templates/georgia_home.aspx
TBS–I just donated $100 to the Lupus Foundation in satisfaction of our wager.
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You’re a good man Bruno.
Partisay
November 7th, 2012
12:55 pm
And thanks for the link….
Truth Squad
November 7th, 2012
1:02 pm
The truth is that this was predicted over a year ago.
President Obama had his accountability moment last night and came away with another resounding victory.
The question of a mandate is for losers. It is exactly what Democratic Party was asking after Bush won reelection. It was a silly question then. It is a silly question now. Voters did not reelect President Obama to carry out the conservative agenda.
Senator Rubio trying to play lipstick to the Republican pig is a demonstration that the party does not want to change. Best listen to Senator Graham and take his advice.
Bruno
November 7th, 2012
1:06 pm
Thank you and those who are afflicted with lupus thank you.
TBS–My pleasure.
You’re a good man Bruno.
Partisay–All the credit goes to TBS (and Obama).
Maybe TBS will share with us his interest in the Lupus Foundation. I’ve had a few patients with lupus through the years. It is one of those illnesses which is difficult to detect from the outside, yet has pervasive effects on the person who has it.
TBone
November 7th, 2012
1:07 pm
Where does the GOP go from here? Well either they need to start playing as dirty as the Chicago gangsters or don’t bother putting up a candidate cause the GOP is not as accomplished at cheating as the DEMS are.
I SEE RED PEOPLE
November 7th, 2012
1:07 pm
With apologies to Bill Maher, this is exactly what happens when the GOP is forced to “step outside the bubble”.
The real world is not at all in alignment with your echo chamber.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
1:09 pm
Bruno
Don’t mind sharing at all. My gf has it, but luckily only a mild form. She gets stiffness in her joints at times, but nothing compared to some who have the disease.
Debbie
November 7th, 2012
1:10 pm
While the GOP maintained the House I think it is the voters giving the GOP one last chance to either move to the center socially and economically or be voted out in 2014. The GOP is licking its wounds today, but tomorrow they need to begin to move the conversation of them moving to the table of compromise or I think it will be the end of the GOP. I was a Republican for 35 years I left because the party moved radically to the right on social and economic issues. I is one thing to be conservative and quite another to be radically right. The GOP would be wise to not view holding the House as we won half, as it it only for 2 years. The GOP House would do well to move center and compromise so that in 2016 the GOP is in existence.
Bruno
November 7th, 2012
1:11 pm
The real world is not at all in alignment with your echo chamber.
The final vote total was approximately 50% for Obama and 48.4% for Romney. Must be a pretty big echo chamber if half the country lives in it.
The bottom line is that the freeloaders won. Doesn’t seem like much to celebrate.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 7th, 2012
1:14 pm
The bottom line is that the freeloaders won.
A lie.
And this is why you lose.
Bruno
November 7th, 2012
1:16 pm
I think it is the voters giving the GOP one last chance to either move to the center socially and economically or be voted out in 2014.
Debbie–Again, how does 50% to 48.4% translate into “one last chance”?? Given the unlikeability factor that Romney brought to the contest, it sound like it was a dead heat to me. We can only surmise the outcome if either Chris Christie or Marco Rubio had run instead.
mike
November 7th, 2012
1:24 pm
Hatirots, patriots and right wing rubes.
Rednecks, nutjobs and old white goobs.
Hail the Republicans. We’ll always remember you this way.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 7th, 2012
1:30 pm
Debbie–Again, how does 50% to 48.4% translate into “one last chance”??
Because those numbers are only going to get worse.
Obama won 60 percent of the under 30 vote.
Dems are winning minorities which are growing as part of the electorate.
The Republican party better move and fast.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
1:35 pm
Again, how does 50% to 48.4% translate into “one last chance”?
Bruno, what you can’t fathom is how badly Obama should been spanked last night. The economy is undergoing an unusually slow recovery.
You folks didn’t lose because of the liberals and the Democrats. You lost because you live in an information vacuum with sources of info that only tell you what you want to hear and not what is reality. Mitt Romney? Hello! Where did you folks dig this dude up?
political arsonist
November 7th, 2012
1:39 pm
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Matz
November 7th, 2012
1:41 pm
If the Republicans want to do better in the national elections, they need to stop insulting women and start condemning the divisive public speech of those who do. That’s just one step, but it’s a start. The younger generations of women will not be dragged back to an era they’ve only witnessed while watching Mad Men. In fact, they respond to the very notion with traditionally masculine, Cheney-esque verbiage. Heh..
I SEE RED PEOPLE
November 7th, 2012
1:41 pm
First you tell us you’ll win in a landslide; now the best you can muster is “you only won by 50-48%”.
You keep lowering the standards that you want yourselves gauged by. What a pathetic attempt to change the narrative.
ATLien
November 7th, 2012
1:43 pm
So lets look at some statistics shall we. Source Bloomberg news
42% of people with graduate degrees supported Romney. 58% supported Obama
More educated people supported the President. Why am I not surprised. Talk radio and fox news prey on the uneducated masses and get u riled up over nonsense and convince you to vote against YOUR OWN BEST INTEREST. In other words your sheep and they know it and exploit it.
Rightwing Troll
November 7th, 2012
1:44 pm
“Rightwing Troll expresses a truism: The further to the left Republicans are, the more liberals like them.
It’s the same for center-right Democrats and conservatives, of course.”
Word…
So how do you explain Mittens loss last night? By the third debate he was as far left as he could go without changing parties… Leagues away from where the “severely conservative” Mittens started out during the batcrap crazy primaries. Like it or not, this is a center/center-right country, pulling the GOP so far to the right like 2012’s primaries did scared the hell out of a lot of good people, then topping that off with the non-stop and outlandish lies just drove them away. So Huntsman was a moderate, he served his country when his president asked him to. That neither made him a RINO nor a liberal. Just because he doesn’t believe the female body shuts down the procces of pregnancy in the case of a legitimate rape does not make him a Democrat.
Like it or not, you could have EASILY had an R in the whitehouse, but YOU decided that’s not what YOU wanted.
Rightwing Troll
November 7th, 2012
1:47 pm
“The bottom line is that the freeloaders won. Doesn’t seem like much to celebrate.”
Not just a lie, but a damn lie… of course you have to consider the source.
mike
November 7th, 2012
1:51 pm
After reading a lot of the ignorant comments here, it just shows why the election turned out the way it did. People are just tired of the hate and excuses put out by conservatives. The population is changing and people are fed up with the same old stuff. But the repubs can keep up with the usual and probably in the next election they will lose even more. When history is written the GOP will look pretty darn bad. But heck it is a free country to believe what you want. Right or wrong.
SHM
November 7th, 2012
1:55 pm
People like “Tiberius” are the reason the Republican party is going the way of the Whigs. He spouts off a “non-factoid” about the life expantancy of African Americans, based on his prejudiced, bigoted, maddeningly faulty view that we all probably die before we reach the age of 50. How about you get out a little more. Meet some African Americans. Talk to some of us. You’ll find out that the vast majority of us want the same things as the vast majority of you — an opportunity to live, work and raise our children in the greatest country on earth.
And Bruno, how about the fact that PRESIDENT Obama rescued the country from the brink of financial oblivion, where we were recklessly driven by the Bush/Cheyney/Rove/Nordquist cabral. Good enough reason for ya?
To pull a page from the world of boxing (which is dying on the vine like the Republican Party): “NBC/CNN/ABC/FOXNews all stop the fight at 11:30 p.m., for the winner by Electoral College knockout … and STILL President of the United States of Americaaaaaaa Barack Hussein Ooooooobaaaaamaaaaa!”
Gotta love it! God Bless America!
I SEE RED PEOPLE
November 7th, 2012
1:56 pm
Tea Party II. Coming soon to a theater near you.
@@
November 7th, 2012
1:57 pm
Nice exchange, Kyle. Thinking beyond the obvious is your strongest asset.
jay? Old and tired arguments from the left.
I’m looking forward to a younger crew in the GOP. Ours are looking alot younger than the dems, in fact.
They do have their Wasserman-Schultz’s but GEEZ…she’s a FLUKE…an embarrassment to any self-respecting female with a mind of their own.
Congratulations to Paul Ryan! Can’t win ‘em all but holding onto his congressional seat was good enough for me.
Give ‘em hell, Congressman Ryan! The truth will set us free!
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 7th, 2012
2:01 pm
One of the biggest winners Tuesday night was health reform. Now that President Barack Obama has won a second term and kept a Democratic majority in the Senate to back him up, Republicans have lost any chance at repealing it.
And with that we join the rest of the civilized world with Universal Healthcare.
We were the only holdout.
Thank god that’s over.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 7th, 2012
2:04 pm
Obama won 60 percent of the under 30 vote and minorities ( which are growing not shrinking the way the white vote is ) is overwhelmingly going to the Dems.
The Republicans are in a small box and they better find a way out quick.
The demographics of the American voter is moving away from them rapidly.
Just winning white southern males is not enough anymore.
Tealiban Party
November 7th, 2012
2:10 pm
Tall
November 7th, 2012
11:33 am
…”Republicans need a systemic change; they can no longer fail to embrace the changing demographic of the nation,
**20 years ago whites were 87% of the electorate, this year only 78%. Romney won the white vote with the same margin as Reagan. Reagan won in a landslide, Romney was soundly defeated.
persist in racial fear-mongering,
**Rush Limbaugh calls Obama economic plan “forced reparations.” Limbaugh, Rove, and Hannity all call President OBama a thug. What about Michelle Bachmann claiming the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the US Government?
voter suppression/intimidation,
Why did many of the GOP-run states reduce early voting?
persist in denigrating an ever-growing segment of this nation, create policies that marginalize a growing minority population….
**Have you really forgotten Romney’s plan to make conditions so bad that Hispanics “self-deport”?
Can you elaborate on all this allegory? This is why Obama won? There is no proof to this nonsense,but if you express it often enough….enough folks and the media will believe it.
*I*gnore the facts at your own peril GOP.
I SEE RED PEOPLE
November 7th, 2012
2:11 pm
I think Romney was too moderate for the Republican Party.
It’s time for the GOP to move as far to the right as they can. Farther. Farther. Can you see Sean Hannity over there? Closer. Closer.
There you go. Feels good, doesn’t it?
independent thinker
November 7th, 2012
2:14 pm
First the cons tell us no way is any president going to win with sustained unemployment around 8% then they tell us that the polls show Romney winning by a landslide and taking the Senate with him to a majority; now they got their butts whooped by Obama/Clinton and they are crying crocodile tears and claiming Obama did not really win because he did not get a mandate. Suck it up cons and take it like a man!
I SEE RED PEOPLE
November 7th, 2012
2:15 pm
Romney didn’t get a mandate either. Romney didn’t get the job, either.
TRUTH
November 7th, 2012
2:20 pm
I think I saw something raw and inexplicable happen last night. A sitting President in the midst of an economic monster no when alive has seen, unemployment prevelant, and a congress in epic gridlock, wins. Hmmm, what’s afoot?
According to the geniuses at the Republican bunker (no doubt hunkered down with former VP “Darth” Cheyney), they poured over their battle plans and set strategic offices up to further the GOP machine….unfortunately, it was targeted at RED STATES that have always been RED. They delighted in the performance of their selected at his first real Presidential debate (Fact Check? We don’t need no stinkin’ fact check!) They all watched as we did the avoidance of facts and substance (something the GOP needs to get its head around, ASAP!! The entirety of the electorate is not and does not resemble the GOP base, nor do they think like them). They allowed money to pour through their coffers in a clear and unabashed attempt to purchase the Presidency (no Mitt, I gues Citizen’s United ain’t a citizen like corporations…). And yet, the guy with the “bad record” lost.
Hmmm, the Gods must be crazy??!! Or the American citizen? Up until the last day, the GOP was pounding its chest, GOP surrogates and pundits alike, declared National Mitt Day. The Mittster in a landslide!!!! (enter crickets..here.) Watching the Romney Victory Hall Soiree’ was about as bad as watching back to back episodes of Cop Rock (I wanted to put my own eyes out…..OH THE HUMANITY!!!). Cut to Chicago and the crowd NEVER looked worried….ever!! Hell, even El Mustachioed D. Axelrod KEPT his face fur in a bet he placed with Georgie at ABC. The electorate knew that the President was going to win. Even the media knew it, but, of course you gotta keep em’ guessing (makes for great ratings and Ohhhh, those advertising dollars!!)
As for the what now? Well GOP’ers, moving to Canada is a poss…wait…what’s that??!!! The devil you say??!!! Canada has UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE??!!! But the GOP wants everyone to pay the insurance companies….oh because of that we can’t get in to Canada??
Find yourselves, GOP. It’s going to be hard for you. You hated on the very people you need to remain relevant…..
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 (yep, WE WON THAT!!!)
HDB
November 7th, 2012
2:22 pm
There actually was a mandat….to CONGRESS!! Quit obstructing and obfuscating….and get to work WITH the President to SOLVE the problems!! Note the Democratic INCREASE in the Senate…particularly from North Dakota!! The Senate will probably be the place where cool heads prevail and the start of solving problems! We know that fiscal issues START in the House…..but the Senate will be where the sensible approach to solving the nationl issues will be……..
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
2:23 pm
Proud (but disgraced) navy vet, I served to defend the very constitution which protects my right to free speech. Someone who allegedly did the same should be ashamed to tell someone to shut up.
Of course, some of us actually consider the oaths we take as important.
Guess that doesn’t work for you.
fair and balanced
November 7th, 2012
2:25 pm
Ivan Cohen at 12:33
“”George Romney must be turning over in his grave regarding his son’s remarks about needing to increase the white vote and decreasing the minority vote.”"
Amen but even more importantly George set out the golden rule for releasing tax returns and his son violated the rule. If ever there was a candidate whose returns were significant in evaluating their fitness to be president it was Mitt. The Queen’s comment of “We have given you people all you need ” had George rolling over.
George lost the nomination in 1968 to the liar Nixon because George told the truth about how we were being misled by the military in Vietnam on how well the war was going, Mitt the draft dodger hires as his top foreign policy aide Dan Senor a/k/a Baghdad Bob who was paid by the military under Bush to lie about how well the war was going. Dad jumped out of the grave after hearing that.
If George ran against Obama he probably would have won.
gm
November 7th, 2012
2:29 pm
God Vs Satan rep party
So for God is 2-0 against southern white male conservatives, tea party, nazis, klan, right wing nut jobs , trump, hannity, rush.
Georgia was on the wrong side of slavery, civil rights, Obama, and they wonder why no one take them serious.
Tealiban Party
November 7th, 2012
2:30 pm
Anyone seen our pal Kayaker?
kayaker 71
October 30th, 2012
4:20 pm
Romney…. 320. Bozo…. 218. Count on it.
Mary Elizabeth
November 7th, 2012
2:30 pm
Kyle, you three journalists work very well together in this kind of informal context, and I hope that you three will have many more broadcast sessions for readers and for citizens throughout the greater Atlanta area. Excellent work!
I have a few remarks, below, regarding the concepts discussed in the video, above. My remarks run a little longer than I had hoped, but I could not cut anything and make the impact I wanted with detail. I hope that this is ok this time. I think my thoughts will generate additional thought.
Conservatives cannot simply pull in constituencies, such as the Latino vote, by voicing a more inclusive mantra. Instead, they will have to fundamentally change, from within, to believe authentically in a vision of all humanity which sees others in egalitarian terms, rather than in hierarchial terms. Monied people often fail to see others through egalitarian eyes, although they can mask their hierarchial vision of others through appearances, such as in supporting humanitarian works of some limited selection.
Some have pondered – over the years since the Civil Rights Movement – why African-Americans have voted for present day Democrats en masse, seemingly becoming only tools to serve that political party’s interests, without awareness. I believe to see African-Americans in this light, because they have voted in large voting blocs for Democrats, is wrongheaded thinking. Those who think that African-Americans have been used by Democrats, instead of making up their own minds, with insight, demonstrate a basic disrespect for the intelligence and awareness of African-Americans. I believe that African-Americans, like women, have a special radar – having been suppressed for generations – as to who authentically sees them and their capabilities and sensibilities with egalitarian eyes and who does not – over and beyond verbal arguments put forth to gain their support. I believe that African-American, like women, have grativated toward the present day Democratic Party because of how Democrats perceive them.
For example, when Gov. Romney changed his political approach toward a more moderate one from a hardline conservative one in the presidential election, he gathered more support overall, but he never really gained the full support of women, or the full support of African Americans, because these two groups have developed a special emotional radar, if you will, which could see beneath his tactical change by his words, alone. These two groups knew how deeply the 47% remark – made by Gov. Romney in private – resonated in his heart and soul, beyond what he said. They could see that he lacked the authentic internal vision to see them as equals, without any condescension in his heart. They could see that he lacked the vision, in other words, of the true egalitarian who sees all human beings as equals (regardless of the cards in life that each human being might be given to play) and regardless of how kind a man he might be with his own loved ones. In other words, they saw that Mitt Romney lacked a deeply human vision of, and understanding for, all humanity that Barack Obama contains in his heart and soul. And they understood that beyond words.
This is a subtle awareness and a subtle change of consciousness that Republicans will have to come to understand in their hearts as well as in their minds, and that takes longer to understand than a “sensitivity training” session. It requires a change of how one sees the world and those who inhabit it.
voice of reason
November 7th, 2012
2:31 pm
Please see Bookman’s column. Kyle, it describes how the conservative media consistently lies to and misleads their readers and listeners. Remember Romney’s people felt that facts didn’t matter, hence the lies about Jeep moving their plants to China. This coming from (Bishop) Romney. I guess its permissible to lie if you’re a Bishop.
fair and balanced
November 7th, 2012
2:40 pm
Most humorous news yesterday- Chrysler gave its emploiyees the day off to vote. Jeeps were seen circling around Romneys last campaign rally.
Partisay
November 7th, 2012
2:42 pm
Anyone seen our pal Kayaker?
kayaker 71
September 20th, 2012
8:41 am
Once again….. when the dust settles and all the votes are counted,,,, Romney 320 electoral votes…… Bozo 218. Count on it.
Umm….I think the dust has settled.
independent thinker
November 7th, 2012
2:47 pm
Anybody notice the look on Rove’s face when all the networks announced Obama won???. I wonder if he had a change of underwear with him. Would love to hear the calls from the 1% who lost tens of millions due to having that clown in charge. Obama got enough of a mandate in the battleground states that no amount of Rove and Romney’s dirty tricks or even Scalia could have undone the final results. My favorite was Romney losing New Hampshire. -That is a mandate.
curious
November 7th, 2012
2:55 pm
Have the right wing special interest groups estimated their Return on Investment, yet?
chat33
November 7th, 2012
2:57 pm
No celebration here…Obama has done nothing for me in 4 years as I work for a living. He only helps the slackers of the world who sit at home and live off my hard earned tax paying dollars. This will be another 4 years of nothing but tears! I mean to elect him the first time was stupid, but to do it twice well that’s just beyond ignorance.
splavistic
November 7th, 2012
2:59 pm
6 Reasons Why GOP do not appeal to a majority of modern Americans:
1. Focus on outdated social issues (gay marriage, etc.)
2. General disdain for immigrants and minorities (just read some of the posts on this site!)
3. Overt religiosity (not everybody is an Evangelical Christian)
4. Allegiance to the very rich over the middle/working classes (just coz they’re rich, doesn’t make them good)
5. Lack of climate concern (our Earth is dying, people! Wake up on this issue!)
6. General Bellicosity (pro-guns, pro-war, pro-death penalty)
America isn’t changing. It has been trending toward a TRUE melting pot for decades, and is getting more liberal to boot. GOP needs to change or fade away. Fiscal conservatism and smaller government is a good thing across all society, but the socially conservative baggage that comes along with this economic policy is ugly and distasteful.
Bruno
November 7th, 2012
3:01 pm
it describes how the conservative media consistently lies to and misleads their readers and listeners.
voice of reason–All I keep seeing from the Libs today are these grand pronouncements about how this election validated their darkest thoughts about conservatives. Quite a reach considering that Obama won by a scant 1% of the popular vote.
The reality is that Obama has been a mediocre President at best. If you want to get excited about persistent 8% unemployment and a skyrocketing national debt, then don’t let me stand in your way.
Glenn
November 7th, 2012
3:04 pm
Kylester ,The problem the Republicans are always going to have is you will always be scary to many a person . Its the way these candidates have to be rightwing lunatics to get the nomination & then somehow come across as moderate for the general election . Remember just a couple months ago Romney said he was the most conservative candidate before sounding like the second coming of Obama on the third debate . Remember W running on cap & trade in 2000 . Its like a joke I heard yesterday . A liberal , a conservative , & a moderate walk into a bar . The bartender turns around and says ” Hey Mitt ” . You will never know what your getting with the R-nominee .
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
3:06 pm
What is hilarious is how the conservative media got it soooooooo totally wrong. I think if my news sources were that far off the mark I would be seriously questioning their methods.
All wrong:
Rove
Hannity
Gingrich
The list foes on and on and on.
Instead of doing the real work of figuring this thing out, they were just telling you folks what you wanted to hear.
Truly sad.
Bob
November 7th, 2012
3:06 pm
Four more years of blaming Bush. Oh well, when the next term is over the rich will be richer and the poor will be poorer. I thought Obama would win and dumped some stock, seems like others are doing the same.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
3:08 pm
The reality is that Obama has been a mediocre President at best. If you want to get excited about persistent 8% unemployment and a skyrocketing national debt, then don’t let me stand in your way.
That’s right – this election should have been won by the Republicans.
How…..HOW in the WORLD did you folks screw this thing up???
Rush
November 7th, 2012
3:08 pm
Well at some point the makers will no longer make enough for the takers to continue this little move to the left……all look at Europe and that will be coming to the USA in an expedited manner.
Rush
November 7th, 2012
3:10 pm
The line for the next four years will be it is the obstructionist House that will not go along with us…..we would be living in Utopia if not for those people. Watch and see how soon this comes to pass.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
3:10 pm
I mean to elect him the first time was stupid, but to do it twice well that’s just beyond ignorance.
Now you folks know the stunned feeling we on the left had in 2004. But we figured it out. I really don’t think you Cons will figure it out, face the reality, and accept that reality quite so fast.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
3:15 pm
You cons want some advice? Make Puerto Rico a state as quickly as you can.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
3:19 pm
Charles Krauthammer defines a mandate after Bush’s win in 2004:
I think it was a huge issue that the president was weak in his first term. He had less of the power and strength and capital, as he speaks of, than he does today. And now that he’s been elected with a large majority, or a significant majority, and with a mandate, I think part of that mandate is to get the right judges, by his likes.”
Bush won with 286 electoral votes to John Kerry’s 252, and with a 2.4 percent margin in the popular vote. Obama currently has 303 electoral votes to Romney’s 206, and he’s likely to add to that the 29 votes from Florida, which hasn’t been called yet, for a grand total of 332. It’s to early to tell on the popular vote, but it will be between 2 and 3 percent.
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/the_rights_new_line_obama_has_no_mandate/
Bruno
November 7th, 2012
3:19 pm
Oh well, when the next term is over the rich will be richer and the poor will be poorer.
Bob–For some reason, the Libs never notice the disconnect between the talk and the walk. Obama has scored political point after political point demonizing the rich for the past 4 years, but exactly what have he and his cohorts in Congress done to reduce the disparity between rich and poor in this country?? That is other than making us all a little bit poorer?? Nothing. In fact, the Dems gladly extended the Bush tax cuts, which according to the Dems unfairly favors the wealthy. Minority unemployment in particular has soared under Obama. Toss in their extension of the Patriot Act and their refusal to close Gitmo, and I would say that the Dems are first-class hypocrites.
@@
November 7th, 2012
3:21 pm
I was just reading where 85% of Clayton County voters supported Obama.
Okay.
They also supported the charter amendment and Victor Hill (!!?!!AGAIN!!?!!).
Difficult to figure out THAT kinda thought process.
50+1
November 7th, 2012
3:25 pm
Bruno—W couldn’t even win the popular vote in 2000, but still ended up being President. BFD. O is elected President. Your man is the loser. Deal with it.
50+1
November 7th, 2012
3:27 pm
Bruno—instead of calling people names, if you must, call them fellow Americans.
wisconsin
November 7th, 2012
3:27 pm
Hey people Oh Happy Day!!!! I went to two of the President’s rally in Wisconsin with my 14 year old son and both rallys there was a diverse group of people white, black, Asian, Latios, Mexician, hispantic old ,young, middle age etc… this is why the President got a second term… Go back and look at the Rallys Romney & Ryan had all white…. America is made up if all races of color …..something for you Republican’s to think about and one more thing Wisconsin didn’t even vote for the hometown boy so what does that say about Ryan…..
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
3:30 pm
I can state with a great deal of confidence that with a few exceptions, the conservatives on this blog would not have behaved anywhere near as childishly and boorishly as those on the left have today.
You are largely as classless as the president you reelected.
And it explains a great deal regarding the overall decline in this nation and its dismal future.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
3:33 pm
Uh, Wisconsin?
It appears “the hometown boy” was reelected to his house seat.
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
3:35 pm
“I can state with a great deal of confidence that with a few exceptions, the conservatives on this blog would not have behaved anywhere near as childishly and boorishly as those on the left have today.”
You must ignore the conservative bloggers including yourself when you post on a regular basis, especially leading up to the election.
The irony must be stinging…….
It will be alright, little dude, but believe as you wish.
Sour grapes and sore losing is not a good trait.
Now get your last word in to make yourself feel better.
50+1
November 7th, 2012
3:37 pm
Bruno– from Wikipedia Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis)[1] is a political philosophy or worldview founded on the ideas of liberty and equality.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas such as free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and a right to life, liberty, and property. Yup, sure sounds anti-American and totally unChristian .
Bob
November 7th, 2012
3:38 pm
wisconsin ” I went to two of the President’s rally in Wisconsin with my 14 year old son and both rallys there was a diverse group of people white, black, Asian, Latios, Mexician, hispantic old ,young, middle age etc… this is why the President got a second term”. Correct, a diverse group with a strong percentage that voted to raise someone else’s taxes and you think that will help the country long term ? Once that diverse group overtakes the non diverse group, who will pay their way ?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
3:40 pm
Neither is excessive gloating, too funny, something your kind seems to excel in.
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
3:44 pm
Tiberius
You are turning those sour grapes into whine. You may as well sell it as Right Wing Vino. (RWV)………….
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 7th, 2012
3:46 pm
How…..HOW in the WORLD did you folks screw this thing up???
———-
Didn’t bring a big enough slop bucket to satisfy the liberal pigs.
Bruno
November 7th, 2012
3:49 pm
would not have behaved anywhere near as childishly and boorishly as those on the left have today.
Ti–I can only imagine the depths of the emotional poverty of the Libs here based upon their gloating over a 1% Presidential victory. Pretty sad.
wisconsin
November 7th, 2012
3:51 pm
whine whine whine if you dont like it pack your freakin bags amd move to Canada if you cant stand that the President will be in the White house for the next 4 years and Romeny wasn’t going to raise your taxes you and everybody else is crazy to think that he wasnt.. unless you are rich like Ryan and Romney you are among all the common folks too!!!!!
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
3:52 pm
Classless? Yes you are. Good day
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Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
October 18th, 2012
12:47 pm
As the re-election of their Messiah becomes less and less likely, the libs are becoming more and more unhinged on this blog.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
3:53 pm
Tonight the Cons will go home and turn on Fox News. The one media outlet that wasn’t even in the ballpark regarding this election. Not even in the ballpark.
And yet none of the Cons are upset with Fox……..
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
3:54 pm
No whine, too funny. I’m made of sterner stuff than that. However, I should have expected this behavior from a group who said they wouldn’t spike the football on bin laden, then built an entire campaign slogan around it.
Bottom line you liberals are a bunch of classless liars, and that includes your president.
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
3:55 pm
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 2nd, 2012
8:04 am
stands, I’m looking at early voting numbers rather than polling.
One, because the majority of polls in question have oversampling of Democrats trying to mimic 2008 turnout (which I don’t believe will happen), and two, because voting trends of actual and historical trump polls.
This is not the Obama-mania election of 2008; more in the mold of a traditional election where both candidates are equally inspiring and uninspiring to their respective parties. And if I were Obama, I wouldn’t like the cry for help out of Pennsylvania yesterday, especially with a possible depressed vote out of Democrat stronghold Philly due to the storm while western PA (more fertile GOP territory) has no issues.
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
3:56 pm
Bruno
October 15th, 2012
12:54 pm
If obama would like to go, I’d be willing to pack his chute for him…
Now, now, JKL2. We’ll simply wish him well with his speaking tour after he’s run out of Wahington on a rail this November. I doubt if he will give Bill Clinton much competition, however.
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
3:57 pm
You speak of stern yet you are whining and crying now
JDW
November 7th, 2012
3:57 pm
@Tiberius…”I can state with a great deal of confidence that with a few exceptions, the conservatives on this blog would not have behaved anywhere near as childishly and boorishly as those on the left have today.”
Wahhhhhhh…Wahhhhhhhh…Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
On a day in day out basis you are unquestionably the most childish and boorish contributor to any blog that will have you, as many decline to do. Your petulant whining is completely SOP for you and only remarkable in the fact that it took you until this afternoon to succumb to your need to pontificate in the face of defeat.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
3:57 pm
At least now we have irrefutable proof that Fox is not a news organization – it’s just one long infomercial that sells peace of mind.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
4:00 pm
Finn the difference is that we are intelligent enough to understand the difference between opinion, and reporting.
I have no problem with someone’s opinion being wrong, as long as it was formed by honest work.
Which is why I have no respect for your opinions.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
4:04 pm
Your continued incorrect opinion is noted, JDW.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
4:04 pm
Cons need to run Christie in 2016 cause he may get them some blue northeast states – NJ, NY, etc.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 7th, 2012
4:05 pm
Bottom line you liberals are a bunch of classless liars, and that includes your president.
We really got to them didn’t we….
LOL
They cant stand it that Obama was re elected.
Its a beautiful day in America.
Bob
November 7th, 2012
4:05 pm
Finn, are you the same finn that did not not the difference between mute point and moot point ?
JDW
November 7th, 2012
4:06 pm
@Tiberius…”Your continued incorrect opinion is noted, JDW.”
Yeah I know I am always incorrect….:roll: Why just the other day I said…
“I am guessing that Obama wins between 281 and 303 EV’s…CO, VA and OH remain the main wildcards. I am also sticking with my original thought that the Senate remains 52 or 53 Dems. I think the House will shift toward the Dems by a few say 3 to 7 seats.”
We see how wrong that was…
JDW
November 7th, 2012
4:07 pm
“Its a beautiful day in America.”
Indeed it is Cheesy, indeed it is. I think it is a bit stormy over in Tiberiusville though.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
4:07 pm
Obama’s mandate begins right now.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 7th, 2012
4:07 pm
Finn the difference is that we are intelligent enough to understand the difference between opinion, and reporting.
Spin spin spin
Nate Silver and the New York times.
Dead on with the predictions. Extremely accurate.
Fox News.
Way way off
But hey that’s the norm everyday.
You guys are too stupid to even realize your being lied too.
snoqualmiefalls
November 7th, 2012
4:08 pm
For all my conservative/ TEA/GOP, the hate speech talkers, folks traped in a FAUX News bubble friends, I have a quote from your hero, the last VP, you know….. the one who shot his buddy in the face during a controlled hunt in Texas because he was drinking… you know… Dick Cheney… “just get over it”………….. pearls of wisdom….. thanks Dick. A quaint phrase I will use on all my relatives who fit in the my first line…. “get over it”
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
4:10 pm
The difference us that I can admit when I an wrong, JDW. All you do is deflect and insult when caught being wrong.
Which is all to often.
Bob
November 7th, 2012
4:10 pm
One good thing about Obama winning is foreign policy. Obama will do whatever it takes to hold the maker of that anti muslim video responsible for getting our people killed in Libya. Romney would not be smart enough to understand that it was not terrorists that were responsible, it was a video. Any one want to wager how many will be on welfare in 4 years ?
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
4:11 pm
Why wasn’t the Tea Party more prominent and out front as they were in their successful 2010 outcome?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
4:11 pm
Barack Obama is the first president since Ronald Reagan to win 50 percent or more of the popular vote twice
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
4:14 pm
I’ll have to tune in to Hannity on the drive home today. Should be a hoot.
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
4:14 pm
Florida is still too close to call.
Hope everyone is checking in to see what the outcome will be.
Going to be a tight one
snoqualmiefalls
November 7th, 2012
4:15 pm
Watchout JDW, TBan has pulled out his verbal bomb… to wit… to deflect. As one who has been taken to the proverial woodshed many a time by Mr. TBan I wear that charge proudly and hope you do the same.
Now it’s back to the comedy channel… FAUX so called News.
JDW
November 7th, 2012
4:20 pm
@Tiberius…”The difference us that I can admit when I an wrong”"
PULEAAAAAAAASE….your main response to being caught in the wrong is to blather incoherently about “surrender”
JDW
November 7th, 2012
4:24 pm
@snoqualmiefalls…”I wear that charge proudly and hope you do the same.”
I do indeed…I do so love standing up to bullies. They stand there eyes all glazed over, veins bulging and deflect incessantly. Why it looks kind of like Karl Rove looked last night.
Georgia, The "New Mississippi"
November 7th, 2012
4:33 pm
I hope J-Bo and the Tea Party Clowns can stop watching Fox News long enough to write and pass some bills President Barack Hussein Obama can sign into law. Or do they still have to check in with Grover Norquist first ????
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
4:35 pm
Kyle’s Konservative Klan’s list of reasons that Mitt “I was dead wrong for the country” Romney got crushed:
All non-Republican Americans are stupid.
The takers, not the makers decided the election.
Those People, the illegal immigrants and dead folks voted en masse for the President.
Union thugs and Black Panthers stole the election.
The liberal media is in the tank for the President.
We Republicans did not do a good enough job of getting the message out.
And my favorite neocon BS excuse………….
We were not conservative enough!!
Rightwing Troll
November 7th, 2012
4:38 pm
“I can state with a great deal of confidence that with a few exceptions, the conservatives on this blog would not have behaved anywhere near as childishly and boorishly as those on the left have today.”
Bull hockey!!!… ACA ruling… say no more.
Rightwing Troll
November 7th, 2012
4:39 pm
Boner’s folding like a cheap suit…
schnirt
Stephenson Billings
November 7th, 2012
4:43 pm
Thought this was interesting:
5 Big Stories The Media Will ‘Discover’ After The Election
“But now that Obama is safely in the White House for another four years, the press is sure to churn out what can charitably be called “now they tell us” stories about these matters, now that any potential election impact has passed.
On Tuesday, Yahoo News provided a glimpse, with a story by seasoned journalist Walter Shapiro, who finally got around to wondering whether “anyone outside (Obama’s) family and the inner sanctum of the White House staff really know Obama or have a clear handle on what he would do with a second term.”
Among other stories the media are likely to “discover” now that voters have made their decision:
• The economy really does stink.
• Massive debt and entitlement crises loom.
• The debt ceiling limit is fast approaching.
• ObamaCare isn’t what it was cracked up to be.
• Obama’s deficit-cutting plan won’t work.”
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/110712-632397-five-stories-the-media-have-buried-.htm
Rightwing Troll
November 7th, 2012
4:50 pm
• The economy really does stink.
BS.
• Massive debt and entitlement crises loom.
Yep, time for us to come together and figure a way to fix this.
• The debt ceiling limit is fast approaching.
Yep, don’t matter who lives in the WH (contrary to wingnutology)
• ObamaCare isn’t what it was cracked up to be.
Maybe/maybe not. But with all the talk about moochers, why aren’t winguts all wingnutty over all the free healthcare we ALL subsidize?
• Obama’s deficit-cutting plan won’t work.
No, but a bipartisan deal can be worked out that combines increased revenue with cuts and closed loopholes that just might work. with all the money the 1%ers threw away on Mittens and wingnut causes, they can afford it… especially since they had a lot to do with W’s election(s) and disasters…
cc
November 7th, 2012
4:53 pm
If Jimmy Carter had been running against President Ronald Reagan in 2012, Jimmy Carter would have been elected.
cc
November 7th, 2012
4:55 pm
Conservatism is dead and America is dying . . .
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
4:55 pm
Stephenson, the media will protect Obama forever. Otherwise it might be found out that they were wrong to prop him up in 2008,and thus showing the world what a collossal mistake they made.
And just as with JDW, the media will never admit to a mistake on their part
Skip
November 7th, 2012
4:59 pm
Rove just lost 300 million of his handlers money, priceless.
Stephenson Billings
November 7th, 2012
4:59 pm
BS.
“Don’t be surprised if, after the election, they start to notice that three years of subpar growth have left the middle class further behind and more mired in poverty, and created a vast pool of long-term unemployed.”
Maybe/maybe not. But with all the talk about moochers, why aren’t winguts all wingnutty over all the free healthcare we ALL subsidize?
“Reports are sure to appear pointing out the law’s lack of cost controls, its adverse impact on doctors and hospitals, and the fact that, after spending $1.76 trillion, it will still leave 30 million uninsured.”
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:01 pm
The excuses continue…
Face it. You lost.
Let the tears flow for while then move on.
These things go in cycles.
You have to love how some are saying Romney was not conservative enough.. As if people said, “He isn’t conservative enough so I will vote Obama or just stay at home”..
Didn’t happen.
The best the Republicans had couldn’t beat a average Obama and all you have are excuses… Maybe it is your party and candidate, but excuses are easier at this time.
Stephenson Billings
November 7th, 2012
5:04 pm
More interesting stuff, although we all knew it….
Five ways the mainstream media tipped the scales in favor of Obama
1. The Media’s Biased Gaffe Patrol Hammered Romney
2. Pounding Romney With Partisan Fact Checking
3. Those Biased Debate Moderators
4. The Benghazi Blackout
5. Burying the Bad Economy
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
5:05 pm
Conservatism is dead because the neocons killed it…
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:06 pm
cc
November 7th, 2012
4:55 pm
Conservatism is dead and America is dying
Yup, hello Greece. And the proggies love it…
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:07 pm
Rove melted down like a cheap candle last night for all to see…
Easy and it smelt bad
The architect is just a doodler now, except for those who buy into his bs no matter what
Stephenson Billings
November 7th, 2012
5:07 pm
Trying to figure out party affiliation of those who stayed home.
Turnout shaping up to be lower than 2008
http://www.kypost.com/dpps/news/national/turnout-shaping-up-to-be-lower-than-2008_7991483
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
5:08 pm
There us no such thing as an average Obama , punked. The mindless cult that fawns over him continues to prop up this below average person with almost no leadership skills.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 7th, 2012
5:09 pm
FOXNEWS: How Media Tipped Scales in Obama’s Favor…
drudgey.
Stephenson Billings
November 7th, 2012
5:09 pm
“Yup, hello Greece. And the proggies love it…”
Especially when we get ObAmnesty next year (that is, the expiration of the Bush/Obama tax rates and Obama’s sequestration taking effect).
Stephenson Billings
November 7th, 2012
5:10 pm
“drudgey.”
SQUIRREL!!!!!
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:10 pm
The problem with proggies is that they can’t question, they blindly follow. Wait until they see this country 4 years from now, not even Matthews, Sharpton and Schultz will be able to cover up what this idiot has done.
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:10 pm
Billings
Do you make excuses for everything in your life or is that just your blog style?
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 7th, 2012
5:11 pm
Fails to match McCain ‘08 total as turnout drops by 14 million…
More drudgey
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 7th, 2012
5:12 pm
The problem with proggies is that they can’t question, they blindly follow.
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
We will be greeted as liberators.
The invasion of Iraq will pay for itself.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:13 pm
Stephenson Billings
November 7th, 2012
5:09 pm
“Yup, hello Greece. And the proggies love it…”
Especially when we get ObAmnesty next year (that is, the expiration of the Bush/Obama tax rates and Obama’s sequestration taking effect).
Yup, millions of former illegals.. er undocumented fighting for the few jobs that should go to taxpaying AMERICANS. And the proggies are too stupid to see it coming.
Stephenson Billings
November 7th, 2012
5:13 pm
Guess we’re all safe now. The Bamster got his man:
Calif. man behind anti-Muslim film gets prison
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i0aKPIse1bbtAHD3LIdkpTfHfw7g?docId=c116e763ff084c0289aa2bd1b519032d
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:13 pm
Sick of Progs
Do you ever get sick of crying and excuses making?
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:14 pm
Kamchak – “Socialism” is just a code word for “fear,” the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 7th, 2012
5:12 pm
The problem with proggies is that they can’t question, they blindly follow.
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
We will be greeted as liberators.
The invasion of Iraq will pay for itself
Liberators of what? There will be nothing left but government benefits.But that is what you want I’m sure.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 7th, 2012
5:15 pm
Liberators of what?
There’s your sign.
Dusty
November 7th, 2012
5:16 pm
Woohoo, there’s always something to be happy about!!! Just think, Cheesy, Finn, JDW and JamVet can go back to their very own dens of liberal loquitur and little white lies. They will be hailed as heroes of the humbug.
Perhaps they, too , will receive a Pulitzer Prize or at least a white feather or two. They may also hold positions in Obama’s ten new investigative commissions. Service.to the brotherhood should be rewarded.
.And also: Washington will be moved to Chicago! I heard it from Nate Silver. So it’s gotta be true!!
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:16 pm
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:13 pm
Sick of Progs
Do you ever get sick of crying and excuses making?
Who’s crying? Have you ever stopped to take a look at the future? Or are you just looking at the immediate. You want a free cell phone from Obama, don’t you?
ATLien
November 7th, 2012
5:17 pm
Tiberius,
You have been pontificating from on high for months on this blog. Claiming you understood the secret sauce and regurgitating the idiocy of “Rove’s numbers/trends”, Benzhagi, and Fox News’ trumped up Dumb Story of the week. True statisticians and quants had it correct, but Fox News never deals in facts. Face it you were summarily wrong. What you need to realize is that Republicans as a collective need to come back to the middle, be more inclusive and distance themselves from the evangelicals and social issues. That’s the direction of the country. Republicans and the Lunatic Fringe that is the Tea Party is needs to realize it or face obsolescence. You also need to stop attempting to be so smart yet end up so wrong. Open your mind and acknowledge other points of view. You really should be embarrassed.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:17 pm
Kamchak – “Socialism” is just a code word for “fear,” the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 7th, 2012
5:15 pm
Liberators of what?
There’s your sign
Yup, it’s my middle finger telling you that you are number one.
Stephenson Billings
November 7th, 2012
5:18 pm
“The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
We will be greeted as liberators.
The invasion of Iraq will pay for itself.”
The most transparent administration in history
Shovel Ready Jobs
It’s not a Tax
Unemployment will be below 5%
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:19 pm
Dusty
Were you not one of the bloggers crowing over the last two months about Romney winning?
Bet that crow tasted like crap last night.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:20 pm
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:19 pm
Dusty
Were you not one of the bloggers crowing over the last two months about Romney winning?
Bet that crow tasted like crap last night
I’d rather eat crap than vote for it..
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:22 pm
Sick of himself is on his way to a melt down…
Crying and excuses….. That is all he has
Stephenson Billings
November 7th, 2012
5:23 pm
Where to put your money now that Obama has won
www .market watch. com /story/ where- to -put- your- money- if- obama- wins- 2012- 11 -06
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:23 pm
Sick his melting down like his hero, Karl Rove
Cry baby cry, let the water fly
ATLien
November 7th, 2012
5:25 pm
“the mindless cult that fawns over him continues to prop up this below average person with almost no leadership skills.”
Do making ignorant illogical statements like this allow you to sleep well at night?
Columbia University / Harvard Law School / US Senate / President of the United States
That’s the definition of below average? A self made man in every respect? No elite family connection to lay the ground work. Wow you have no clue. However it doesn’t surprise me that you’re wrong about this too. You’re just wrong about a lot of stuff huh?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
5:25 pm
ATLien, first, I have already admitted I was wrong. You probably missed that in your fervor to attack me falsely. Falsely, because as I always stated, that was my OPINION. Unlike others, I do not ever claim to know the future, but merely speculate based on the information I have at hand.
Now as to your suggestion that Republicans move to the middle, I happen to agree with it and have foe years
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:26 pm
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:23 pm
Sick his melting down like his hero, Karl Roves up get
Cry baby cry, let the water fly
What’s up getalife?
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:27 pm
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:26 pm
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:23 pm
Sick his melting down like his hero, Karl Roves up get
I can tell it’s you by your spelling.
Enjoy the next 4 years buddy.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 7th, 2012
5:27 pm
Ok, ATL, he’s good at taking advantage of affirmative action, and getting elected.
Creating jobs or balancing a budget–not so much.
cc
November 7th, 2012
5:27 pm
Sick of Progs:
It’s not just Greece . . .
Maybe we’ll find out somehow what secret deal he has with the Russians. We already know now that the administration was turning over weapons to Al-Qaeda in Benghazi. What do you bet that we will see those weapons again? Shades of “Fast and Furious” . . .
At least we won’t have to be concerned about finding a presidential candidate in 2016 . . .
jezel
November 7th, 2012
5:28 pm
The business of America is business. The GOP at one time was the party of business minded people. Social issues and government meddling in people’s private lives was not a part of the platform.
Our country needs this option today. The “snake handlers”, those who will not compromise and the self righteous… must be forced out of the GOP. Other wise the party is doomed in presidential elections .And if the citizens do not demand compromise in Congress..our country is doomed.
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
5:28 pm
The numbers really are staggeringly bad for the neocons.
Just one of them…
The GOP’s
War on WomenFull Scale Legislative Assault on Women’s Rights was damn expensive.Women made up 53% of the voters last night and the GOP lost them by an 11% margin! (55 – 44)
Ouch….
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:28 pm
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:23 pm
Sick his melting down like his hero, Karl Rove
Cry baby cry, let the water fly
Amazing that a 2nd grader can get onto a wingfield blog..
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:31 pm
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
5:28 pm
The numbers really are staggeringly bad for the neocons.
Just one of them…
The GOP’s War on Women Full Scale Legislative Assault on Women’s Rights was damn expensive.
Darn right. I would have thought that neo-cons would have figured out that women’s rights (total non issue) is more important than shoring up social security, medicare, 16 trillion in debt, potential war in Iran. But no, the average woman sheeple thinks her “rights to abortion and birth control” is more important. Typical emotional non thinking libs.
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
5:34 pm
Sick,
Buck up.
Your candidate and your fascist right wing ideology stink on ice.
Last night proved it. Again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3pX_shcyU
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 7th, 2012
5:34 pm
cc
September 27th, 2012
9:42 am
The campaign hasn’t ‘changed’, and Obama is going down, despite the skewed polls so often cited.
Tell us again how Obama is “going down” and how the polls were “skewed”.
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:34 pm
Sick
You might make it in the Genesis World book for the longest cry and pout without stopping…
It has been going on for hours now
ATLien
November 7th, 2012
5:35 pm
LBB,
Stupid racist comment. Crawl back into your hole. I’m willing to bet he has more raw aptitude than you.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
5:35 pm
However, atlien, the GOP HAD a moderate candidate, but the Obama campaign simply lied about him to tie him to conservatives. I’m sure that will be the template for future moderates as well.
cc
November 7th, 2012
5:37 pm
Sick of Progs:
Your words are wasted on JamVet: he is a renowned warrior respected far and wide for his intellect and wisdom . . .
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:38 pm
cc
Bought everything his talk radio and website masters brainwashed him to believe
But take solace, the majority on this blog did the same exact thing
cc
November 7th, 2012
5:40 pm
Kamchak:
I was wrong.
I placed my faith in an America that no longer exists, and in Americans with a will to persevere through self-reliance with a “can do” attitude. Unfortunately, changing demographics has placed those Americans in the minority of voters
I am reminded of the Biblical passages from Genesis describing the peoples’ surrender of their crops, livestock and land to the Pharaoh in return for refuge from famine. The people were not saved from the famine, many starved and the remainder became slaves in service to the Pharaoh.
Conservatism as a viable entity died last night. Liberals should closely examine the results, too, because liberalism perished with conservatism. The events that will follow last night’s “free” election will occur with breath-taking rapidity and will not be what most of the “winners” expect, but you shall experience it nonetheless.
So, to the “winners” I extend my congratulations. You, like the people described in Genesis, have surrendered your worldly goods to your “Pharaoh”.
Prepare yourself for your starvation and servitude.
Dusty
November 7th, 2012
5:41 pm
Uh oh.. Kamchak is here. Another one has left the pack? They must think that Bookman decided that he and Kyle were peas in the poltical pod of peace and providence. . Conservatives that is..
I feel another video coming up . Something has to be done about this. AJC said they were for different political parties, not patty cake party timesr!!
What’d jya say? Obama? Oh yeah, he won the election. Soooo? We know. Four years mo.
ATLien
November 7th, 2012
5:42 pm
Romney, was a moderate but he pandered to the right wing fringe. Or are you disregarding all he said during the primaries? That’s his fault for not staying true to what he truly believed. That, for most reasonable people has to make you question how he would govern. Consistent pandering is not leadership, its expediency. Romney displayed no backbone and could not be trusted to a majority of the electorate. He miscalculated and that was entirely his and his team’s fault.
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:43 pm
Wrong and ignorant are not one in the same…
cc check into that
Find some better info sources before making anymore of those loony predictions
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:44 pm
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:34 pm
Sick
You might make it in the Genesis World book for the longest cry and pout without stopping…
It has been going on for hours now
Kinda funny. You can’t read a watch. Not surprised. Only been bloggin’ here for less than an hour. But keep drinking your maddog.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:45 pm
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:43 pm
Wrong and ignorant are not one in the same…
cc check into that
Find some better info sources before making anymore of those loony predictions
Why don’t you bring something to the table Mr. Whiny?
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:47 pm
Dusty thinks that folks can only post at one blog
She is nice but not the brighest
She rants, raves, cries and moans
Simple minded and can’t stand for others to post views she can’t understand
Dusty
November 7th, 2012
5:47 pm
Dear Progs (which rhymes so well with frogs)
I always wanted Romney for a winner because he is a winner in every way. He did not suit the losers but they can still vote.
I don’t believe I ever promised he would win. I’m not Mr. Silver. I know better than to declare a victory when the battle is still going on. .
Stephenson Billings
November 7th, 2012
5:47 pm
“Fails to match McCain ‘08 total as turnout drops by 14 million…”
Obama got fewer votes than 2008 also. First time in history, IIRC, where an incumbent was re-elected with fewer votes than his first election.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:49 pm
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
5:34 pm
Sick,
Buck up.
Your candidate and your fascist right wing ideology stink on ice.
Last night proved it. Again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3pX_shcyU
For someone who previously hasn’t had the nads to admit he is a liberal democrat you seem to be gloating a-lot. As far as fascism goes, you brainless tools are about to embraces Obama’s rulership through executive order. Neodumba$$.
Dusty
November 7th, 2012
5:50 pm
Dear Punked Again
You are the perfect picture of “Ignorance is bliss!” Now smile.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
5:50 pm
Atlien, I see you were duped by the media and Obama.
Not a hysterical female
November 7th, 2012
5:50 pm
I am embarrassed to be “lumped” together as part of the hysterical female population. Women are so stupid and are slaves to the democratic party! I can’t believe that you Obama voters actually voted for him while unemployment and poverty rates among women are climbing. UFB-! Note to any democrat wanting to be elected, just lie and slander your challenger and tell women that they can’t get any abortion…. you’ll get elected- it works every time.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:51 pm
cc
November 7th, 2012
5:37 pm
Sick of Progs:
Your words are wasted on JamVet: he is a renowned warrior respected far and wide for his intellect and wisdom . . .
Sorry, I thought he was the opinionated guy at the bar that you regretted sitting next to…
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:54 pm
Not a hysterical female
November 7th, 2012
5:50 pm
I am embarrassed to be “lumped” together as part of the hysterical female population. Women are so stupid and are slaves to the democratic party! I can’t believe that you Obama voters actually voted for him while unemployment and poverty rates among women are climbing. UFB-! Note to any democrat wanting to be elected, just lie and slander your challenger and tell women that they can’t get any abortion…. you’ll get elected- it works every time
It’s the same sh!t with the dems every election. Abortion, womens rights, denying old people benefits, and the electorate falls for the same sh!t everytime. And the proggies really buy into it while the world crumbles around them. Must be nice to be that ignorant…
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 7th, 2012
5:55 pm
Prepare yourself for your starvation and servitude.
Your talents at prognostication are more than a little suspect, sport.
So I think I’ll just dismiss you as a bitter, angry, sore loser.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:57 pm
Kamchak – “Socialism” is just a code word for “fear,” the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 7th, 2012
5:55 pm
Prepare yourself for your starvation and servitude.
Your talents at prognostication are more than a little suspect, sport.
So I think I’ll just dismiss you as a bitter, angry, sore loser.
Things are so much better in Europe (sarc). Hey Kam, I’m guessing that you could eat corn through a picket fence with your great European teeth and dental availability. Who cares to wager?
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
6:00 pm
Dusty
Don’t cry out loud.learn how to hide your feelings..
And yes you stated that Obama and Biden would be leaving this November.
I won’t make you look anymore foolish than you already look, so I will not post your post stating as much
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 7th, 2012
6:00 pm
…with your great European teeth and dental availability…
Born on Peachtree Street, sport.
ATLien
November 7th, 2012
6:01 pm
@Sick of Progs.
Let it go its over 4 more years. The country has spoken Go have a drink or go to the gym work off the stress in some other way.
Aquagirl
November 7th, 2012
6:01 pm
Crying still in progress.
Here, have a hanky, y’all. And if you’re so worried about jobs any of you could make RuPaul’s drama queen cut.
cc
November 7th, 2012
6:03 pm
Punked Again:
“Wrong and ignorant are not one in the same…”
I’m in complete agreement . . .
I was wrong. You voted for Obama proving your ignorance.
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
6:04 pm
Driving early this afternoon I must have felt a little masochistic, because I allowed myself to listen to Rush Limbaugh for a while. There was the expected bellyaching about the results of the election and insane ranting, Rush whining Why? Why did they not vote for Romney? And I thought: Because of you Rush, and others like you, because you and they cause the rational people to turn away in disgust. Enough of people had enough of Allen West and Joe Walsh, as well as Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock and all their symphatizers.
The same is true about some people on this blog, who in the past months have raved about Communists, Marxists, Socialists, and competed in ways to insult the elected President of this country. They have discredited the Republican party.
independent thinker
November 7th, 2012
6:05 pm
Tiberius–”"”"”"”"”"However, atlien, the GOP HAD a moderate candidate, but the Obama campaign simply lied about him to tie him to conservatives. I’m sure that will be the template for future moderates as well.”"”"”"”"”"”"
This is a good example of the psychosis and denial now going on among the cons. It has to be something that commie Muslim Obama did that caused poor Mitt to lose. It could not be Mitt stating he is seriously conservative or him taking extreme positions on taxes, regulation, the environment, women’s rights or saddling up with the most conservative neocons that could have effected the vote? Funny I did not see Obama in that videotape of the real Romney talking to his base -the 1% fat cats forcing Romney to say those extremely right wing views. Or was he there in disguise as one of the waiters with a gun pointed at Romney.?
This is the Rove disease that permeates the cons- what ever you have screwed up always and I mean always blame it on the other side.
So now we have proof positive that only the Democrats believe in individual responsibility. Thank you for reinforcing that Tiberius for all of us to see..
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
6:07 pm
Cc
It is you who buys into that talk radio crap, as well as those right wing wacko sites
That is your ignorance and gullibility
Own it, live it, accept it
You will feel better
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
6:07 pm
cc, don’t hate me just because I damn near perfectly predicted the inevitable neocon train wreck that was coming.
I said repeatedly and beginning many months ago that this election was over way back then. Obama was beatable. But by that clusterrflub of a slate of candidates? That is twice in a row that the GOP has trotted out absurdly laughable and unelectable fringe elements. You know the names. We all do.
The awful Joe Walsh, Alan West, Todd Akin, Scott Brown, George Allen and Richard Mourdock all deservedly kicked to the curb.
Tammy Duckworth and Tulsi Gabbard – the first two female combat veterans elected to the United States Congress. Salute!!!
And on and on and on and on.
This election was MUCH more than just a victory for the skinny black guy over the morphing fraud. It was another nationwide repudiation of right wing fanaticism, willful stupidity and incompetence.
To wit, the hijacked, hemorrhaging and horrific GOP lost all of the following demographics. (Again.)
American women, American Jews, African-Americans, American Latinos, all other American minorities and all of the centers of commerce, culture and education in this country.
Wake up. And tell Mr. West that McCarthyism died a horrible, public death sixty years ago.
Don’t shoot the messenger.
Or do!
LOL…
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
6:08 pm
Aquagirl
November 7th, 2012
6:01 pm
Crying still in progress.
Here, have a hanky, y’all. And if you’re so worried about jobs any of you could make RuPaul’s drama queen cut.
Oh yeah, the job market is cooking with full time jobs with bennies (sarc). Or can’t you google because your laptop isn’t waterproof Aquagirl?
cc
November 7th, 2012
6:10 pm
Kamchak:
“So I think I’ll just dismiss you as a bitter, angry, sore loser.”
Doesn’t work quite like that, you Booki-man wanna be.
However, you are dismissed.
Dusty
November 7th, 2012
6:16 pm
Women are not to be blamed for this fiasco.. Not me! Nien! NO! Not ever! Negative!
On second thought, there might be one or two. There’s the bubble lib lady Aquagirl who would walk a mile just for a smile from U-kno-who. And there is the wampum woman Lizzie Warren , who doesn’t know the truth from a turnip.( a trait which appeals to liberals)
Other than that, do not blame the innocents. The hand that rocks the cradle may hit you where it hurts if you don’t hush.
bu2
November 7th, 2012
6:16 pm
The new Republican voters will come from the 60% under 30 who voted for Obama. That number was higher 4 years ago. Those people will get out in the real world and many will become more conservative and realistic and start voting Republican. Its always been that the younger voters were more liberal. Those over 65 who voted 58% for Romney were mostly Democrats when they were younger.
Aquagirl
November 7th, 2012
6:17 pm
the job market is cooking with full time jobs with bennies (sarc).
There are always jobs for those who have special skill sets and y’all are 1%ers in the hysterical screaming field.
You really should listen to Kyle….Conservatives need a plan. Howling like a kid who dropped their ice cream cone is not a plan. It may provide jobs in the fainting couch industry though, so maybe you’re onto something.
bu2
November 7th, 2012
6:20 pm
I’ll agree with JamVet that the clowns hurt the GOP. The Democrats do a better job (except in Minnesota) of keeping clowns from getting the Senatorial and Gubernatorial nominations. That rubs off on everyone else, even if they dissavow it.
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
6:21 pm
Dusty
Don’t live your life as one big excuse and filled with mindless projections of others who do not meet your simple minded narrative..
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 7th, 2012
6:28 pm
ATLien: Stupid racist comment.
——————-
Don’t fear facts, ATL. Or do stoners with average grades make it into Columbia and Harvard on a regular basis?
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
6:30 pm
Aquagirl
November 7th, 2012
6:17 pm
the job market is cooking with full time jobs with bennies (sarc).
There are always jobs for those who have special skill sets and y’all are 1%ers in the hysterical screaming field.
So what is Obama’s plan to create jobs? Refresh my memory.
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
6:31 pm
Lil Barry is a jealous lil b
Nothing new
Dusty
November 7th, 2012
6:32 pm
Poor Punkie,
I thought Obama and Biden would be leaving this time. Almost 50% of American voters felt the same way, not qjuite enough to win.
I don’t believe there’s a law against free speech. Not yet anyway. Sure I voted for Romney. After another four years, you will problably vote for Peter Rabbit if Democrats say so.
I prefer to consider the candidate a little closer. Win or lose, Romney was the best qualified candidate. If I said that before, I was just being truthful.
Don Abernethy
November 7th, 2012
6:32 pm
I hope I never have to associate with any Obama supporters from now on. I have no respect for these voters. Anyone who voted for Obama cannot expect anything from me and I will try to avoid them as much as possible.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
6:33 pm
ATLien
November 7th, 2012
5:35 pm
LBB,th
Stupid racist comment. Crawl back into your hole. I’m willing to bet he has more raw aptitude than you
How about the “Homies” think that he has their back and there is special goodies for them like free cell phones. Is that racist?
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
6:35 pm
Dusty
Can you post where I stated you do not have free speech?
No you can’t
However you did lie earlier when you stated something along the lines of not say who would win the election.
Lying is not becoming of you. I hope you didn’t teach your kids that it was ok.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
6:35 pm
Lil’ Barry Bailout – Vote American
November 7th, 2012
6:28 pm
ATLien: Stupid racist comment.
——————-
Don’t fear facts, ATL. Or do stoners with average grades make it into Columbia and Harvard on a regular basis?
Obama won’t release his grades, but he did smoke dope and did coke. That must make him exceptional these days…
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
6:36 pm
Don Abernethy @6:32 pm
You could not make us happier.
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
6:37 pm
Don
Cry on.. You can join Dusty, sick, cc, barry do little and tiberius
Dusty
November 7th, 2012
6:38 pm
Punked again
You sound so familiar. Say What? How many ids do you use? NO?
Then I guess originality just isn’t your “thing”. Obviously..
bu2
November 7th, 2012
6:40 pm
What the Republicans need to do:
1. Practice what they preach. Republicans deserved to lose in 2006 because they started spending like crazy and became arrogant and addicted to Washington. Support term limits, reasonable ethics reforms and be responsible on spending.
2. Just shut up about social issues where you aren’t going to accomplish something anyway. On abortion they need to focus on changing minds, not laws. On gay marriage, just vote no, don’t harp on it.
3. Quit going out of their way to alienate Hispanics. They are naturally a relatively conservative group that should not be 70% Democratic. Support rational immigration reform like George W. and Rick Perry. Don’t try to throw 12 million people out of the country in a move that would economically hurt those here legally.
4. Do a better job vetting candidates for offices like Senator and Governor. Find out if they are clowns so it can be exposed in the primary and not just show up in the general election.
5. Don’t be so ideological purist. A moderate conservative who votes with you 80% of the time is better than cutting off your nose to spite your face and electing a liberal who never votes with you.
6. Don’t be afraid to tell the truth about entitlements. Tell the American people that the Democrats refuse to deal with a bankrupt social security and medicare system, putting both at risk.
Aquagirl
November 7th, 2012
6:40 pm
The Democrats do a better job (except in Minnesota) of keeping clowns from getting the Senatorial and Gubernatorial nominations
With all the talk of business worship and efficiency, Republicans ignore one extremely basic business idea—protecting your brand. If one dummy in NW Arizona starts selling his own version of Coke, Coca-Cola unleashes their lawyers. Disney doesn’t let any idiot dress up as Mickey Mouse and ruin their corporate name. It’s basic common sense.
Republicans got a whupping because they’ve become tone-deaf to raging idiots in their own house. Those raging idiots bring in a small base of fanatics but eventually you pay when you accommodate loons.
Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
6:42 pm
Do not deflect from your lying Dusty
I hope lying isn’t a way of life for you.
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
6:44 pm
Is that racist?
I would say that you are more of a bigot than a racist.
Which is not atypical of the Dixie Republicans.
And explains why your past few National Conventions look like a Klan rally. (In terms of the fact that there are VIRTUALLY NO MINORITIES in attendance.)
But go ahead and pretend that they are the problem and not you.
It seems to be working for you!
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
6:46 pm
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
6:36 pm
Don Abernethy @6:32 pm
You could not make us happier.
He probably wouldn’t find you to associate with you anyway, unless he went to the gerbil section of the pet store to hold your rainbow flag while you picked out your next entertainer.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
6:48 pm
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
6:44 pm
Is that racist?
I would say that you are more of a bigot than a racist.
Which is not atypical of the Dixie Republicans.
And explains why your past few National Conventions look like a Klan rally. (In terms of the fact that there are VIRTUALLY NO MINORITIES in attendance.)
Aww, the little black boo boo’s want their a$$es kissed by whitey before they go vote dem. Sorry, waste of time.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right
November 7th, 2012
6:49 pm
The mere fact that AmVet can lump Scott Brown into thhe same category as Joe Walsh and Todd Akin shows just how deteriorated his brain as become.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
6:50 pm
Aquagirl
November 7th, 2012
6:40 pm
The Democrats do a better job (except in Minnesota) of keeping clowns from getting the Senatorial and Gubernatorial nominations
Joe Biden is Brilliant! Roflmao
bu2
November 7th, 2012
6:56 pm
She was quoting me. Biden’s not brilliant, but he’s not a clown.
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
6:58 pm
Not a hysterical female, but certainly an ignorant one.
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
6:58 pm
Actually, tibby, you are for once in your miserable blogging life, correct!
I meant to parenthetically note that Brown was not really in the league with those other gawdawful Republicans that I listed and that you adore. But alas, I forgot.
Mea culpa.
Now go back to lurking in the shadows.
Sicko, go burn a cross. You’ll feel better!
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
6:59 pm
obumer has less mandate after his re-election than he did 4 years ago when he was elected to his first term. As I said earlier he will never be able to lead and he has no idea of what compromise means.or how not to break a deal once he has made one.
Tip of the hat to the DEMwits turn out the vote effort they simply out preformed the GOP. Now lets see what they and obumer can do without the GOP House of Representatives.
More on the GOP later.
Aquagirl
November 7th, 2012
7:00 pm
Joe Biden is Brilliant! Roflmao
I’m sure the VP is heartbroken over your random opinion. And he’s smart enough to be re-elected VP so enjoy your laugh…all the way to political obscurity.
Say hello to the Dixiecrats for us. Toodles.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:02 pm
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
6:58 pm
Actually, tibby, you are for once in your miserable blogging life, correct!
I meant to parenthetically note that Brown was not really in the league with those other gawdawful Republicans that I listed and that you adore. But alas, I forgot.
Mea culpa.
Now go back to lurking in the shadows.
Sicko, go burn a cross. You’ll feel better!
As long as you’re staked to it. Hell, I’ll even pi$$ on you when the flames go out to make sure your ok.
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
7:04 pm
No biden isn’t smart at all, the DEMwits worked hard enough to over come biden’s stupidity and obumer miserable record, otherwise those bums would have lost this election.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:04 pm
Aquagirl
November 7th, 2012
7:00 pm
Joe Biden is Brilliant! Roflmao
I’m sure the VP is heartbroken over your random opinion. And he’s smart enough to be re-elected VP so enjoy your laugh…all the way to political obscurity.
Say hello to the Dixiecrats for us. Toodles.
Nope, I’d rather spend my time bantering with the clueless. Tell Biden i said hello while you’re taking dicktation from him.
cc
November 7th, 2012
7:05 pm
“Anyone who voted for Obama cannot expect anything from me and I will try to avoid them as much as possible.”
A very sound idea as you are judged by the company you keep!
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
7:05 pm
Sick of Progs @6:46 pm
You are one of those sick people that cause other people to abandon the Republican party. That is all you can do with your miniscule brain, to write insults. It is pathetic.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:06 pm
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
7:04 pm
No biden isn’t smart at all, the DEMwits worked hard enough to over come biden’s stupidity and obumer miserable record, otherwise those bums would have lost this election.
It’s what the great public education system programs into the non thinkers, instead of math and science. They can’t help that they have no critical thinking ability, only memorization skills.
cc
November 7th, 2012
7:06 pm
“Tell Biden i said hello while you’re taking dicktation from him.”
ZING . . .
Hillbilly D
November 7th, 2012
7:07 pm
Who carried Kansas?
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:08 pm
bu2 November 7th, 2012 6:16 pm
The new Republican voters will come from the 60% under 30 who voted for Obama. That number was higher 4 years ago. Those people will get out in the real world and many will become more conservative and realistic and start voting Republican. Its always been that the younger voters were more liberal. Those over 65 who voted 58% for Romney were mostly Democrats when they were younger.>>>>
So what’s your excuse for the overwhelming advantage Obama had with women and the hispanic population. Maybe a majority of women were worried about the retarded statements coming from Republican candidates about women, rape and contraception. And the Hispanic vote went to Obama because of the Dream Act while Republicans were screaming DEPORT and exhibiting other forms of xenophobia (I know it’s a big word so look it up). And African Americans? Considering the many examples of racism coming from Republicans, expecting them to support you would be like expecting a Jew to vote for the Nazi Party. BTW, before you say that African Americans voted for Obama because he’s black, look up the margins for Bill Clinton’s elections. Yup, virtually identical.
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
7:10 pm
And the excuses continue to roll as quickly off the tip of their tongues as the tears flow down their redden soaked cheeks
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
maine
November 7th, 2012
7:11 pm
Ummmm….why are we focusing on minorities? The truth is…Romney lost a lot of the WHITE vote. If people supposedly vote based on race, why do so many people reject GOP ideology.
cc
November 7th, 2012
7:11 pm
Sick of Progs:
I will always believe Biden was selected precisely because he is stupid. Who, other than maybe Ted Kennedy, would be stupid enough to stand by as Obama dismantles the country?
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:12 pm
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
7:05 pm
Sick of Progs @6:46 pm
You are one of those sick people that cause other people to abandon the Republican party. That is all you can do with your miniscule brain, to write insults. It is pathetic.
Don’t flatter yourself. Conservatives view liberals as inferior, and correctly so. You’re either alternate lifestyle, a woman with an abortion trophy, drug user, single mom (government dependency applies to a bunch of groups) drug user, illegal immigrant or journalist to be a lib. We sympathize that you need the government, but laugh inside when you call us names. Your social acceptance validation by the government makes you feel a part of normal society.
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:12 pm
The day before the election, Rush Limbaugh was telling the dittoheads that his “intellect” told him that Romney would beat Obama by 100 electoral vote. ROFLMAO!!!!
And the right-wing will keep going back and to listen to that idiot. Step out of that bubble and breath some fresh air. Nate Silver predicted this election exactly. Must feel good to be vindicated when everyone on the right-wing was ridiculing him and called him a tool.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:14 pm
cc
November 7th, 2012
7:11 pm
Sick of Progs:
I will always believe Biden was selected precisely because he is stupid. Who, other than maybe Ted Kennedy, would be stupid enough to stand by as Obama dismantles the country?
You’re right. It’s like dumb and dumber. They’re funny for a gaffe, but you can’t figure out who is dumber. Brilliant marketing!!
mike
November 7th, 2012
7:14 pm
Well it sure looks like the righties are coming out from hiding and returning to their usual rancor.
“Why don’t they understand us?” “Why would they vote for someone like Obama?” “What’s wrong with all of these people?” “Why don’t they see it like we do?”
Simple. You on the right are so far off the mainstream in this country it borders on the laughable. Grow up! Grow a pair. Realize that you lost. Your ideology lost. It makes no difference at this point how much you whine and grouse. You lost.
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
7:14 pm
Hill BillyD
Kansas?
Was that a surprise and was it instrumental in any elections of the last 100 years?
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
7:15 pm
Sick of Progs@7:12 pm
You have already proven your stupidity – why piling it on?
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
7:15 pm
Rush said on the radio today that while he did say Romney would win, he never told anyone that in private because he had a feeling that it might be Obama
hahahahahahah
What an excuse for the flock.
cc
November 7th, 2012
7:16 pm
Chris Salzmann
“And the right-wing will keep going back and to listen to that idiot”
Like you are with Maher?
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:17 pm
mike
November 7th, 2012
7:14 pm
Well it sure looks like the righties are coming out from hiding and returning to their usual rancor.
“Why don’t they understand us?” “Why would they vote for someone like Obama?” “What’s wrong with all of these people?” “Why don’t they see it like we do?”
Simple. You on the right are so far off the mainstream in this country it borders on the laughable. Grow up! Grow a pair. Realize that you lost. Your ideology lost. It makes no difference at this point how much you whine and grouse. You lost.
We see Greece idiot. You see free healthcare and free Obamaphones.
yoyo32
November 7th, 2012
7:17 pm
Bush has the mandate in 2000? Or in 2004 with 1 state? Did Republicans ask if he did? lol
Obama got elected with a landslide in the electoral vote and with 2% in the popular vote. Can you guys live with democracy? If you don’t like the system, maybe you should get rid of the electoral college, and while you at it get rid of the voter suppression rules while you at it.
But I guess the republicans are to busy asking themselves if it was fraud, a conspiracy between benghazi terrorist the communist and the liberals, hurricane Sandy, or Mitt not being conservative enough. Maybe if the GOP can get their head out of their *sses and work for the people (like elected officials should) instead of against them they might appeal to somebody besides the white elderly !%
yoyo32
November 7th, 2012
7:18 pm
Enter your comments here
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:18 pm
Sick of Progs November 7th, 2012 7:12 pm
Conservatives look down on Liberals? You’re kidding??? Who knew.
Actually, we call you folks knuckle draggers because in everything you say, you show how little you all evolved. You folks are all on the wrong side of history in regards to climate change, trickle-down economics, women’s rights, gay rights, contraception, abortion, etc, etc
Heck, when you knuckle-draggers were democrats, you were all on the wrong side of race too. Then you switched sides and became Republicans!
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:20 pm
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
7:15 pm
Sick of Progs@7:12 pm
You have already proven your stupidity – why piling it on?
In your opinion, which means nothing to about 50 percent of the bloggers in here. The rest laugh at your short bus ride to the library to blog.
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
7:21 pm
Stop the press. Thulsa won.
Jay send that man this weeks prize. I believe you mentioned it was the Ronco Whopper Chopper.
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
7:22 pm
Sicko, take heart.
Air Iran is ready when you are
The problem for Republicans — and this is not at all unique to Romney — is that the best hope they currently have in terms of electoral math is the 286 electoral votes that George W. Bush won in 2004. (It would actually add up to 292 electoral votes under the current allocation.) A ceiling of 292 just leaves very little room for error — for any Republican candidate now or going forward.
You anti-Darwin types need to evolve or die.
Either way, the republic wins. Just like it did last night…
cc
November 7th, 2012
7:22 pm
yoyo32″
“Enter your comments here”
This is the most intelligent comment you’ve made tonight!
mike
November 7th, 2012
7:23 pm
Sick of progs: “We see Greece idiot. You see free healthcare and free Obamaphones.”
Well it looks like Lil’ Barry, I Report, or Tiberius has created a new sock puppet.
Let me analyze the above statement. “We see Greece idiot.” WTF does this mean except that it contains an insult? The United States is not Greece. And Greece wouldn’t be Greece if it left the EU.
“You see free healthcare and free Obamaphones.” Again, pure nonsense. WTF is an Obamaphone?
What a sick, pathetic life you must lead whoever you are today. I pity you.
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:24 pm
Just to prove what a bunch of idiots now compose today’s Republican Party, remember when during the Republican Primary, they asked if any candidate believed in Evolution? Everyone said NO!!!! Heck some of your kind believe that if women are “legitimately” raped, their bodies will miraculously NOT get pregnant!!! This from a Republican Senator who sat on the Senate Science and Technology Committee??? Are you kidding me??? REALLY??? That’s the level of stupidity in today’s Republican Party. Among your kind, intelligence is a dirty word!
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
7:25 pm
them to support you would be like expecting a Jew to vote for the Nazi Party.
Well the Jews have been voting for those fascist socialist Democrat union worker’s party for a very long time now.
Oh by the way, NAZI is an acronym that stands for: “National Socialist Democrat Workers Party”. In fact, the NAZI Party adopted some of their ideas from the Woodrow Wilson’s American Progressives in this country: Like propaganda – also known as it is now often called, “Public Relations”
yoyo32
November 7th, 2012
7:25 pm
@cc read the post above it ^^^^^^^^^^^
you might learn something
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:26 pm
You folks are all on the wrong side of history in regards to climate change, trickle-down economics, women’s rights, gay rights, contraception, abortion, etc, etc
Hey moron, how are these things relevant to any of the problems facing the nation. Climate change, they want to tax businesses to impede emissions. It doesn’t fix the damage. Women’s rights? They’ve been aborting unprotected sex for years, and no one is threatening that right. Contraception? Available at schools and abortion clinics for free. Gay rights? Who gives a flying intercourse what they do in their personal lives. Trickle down economics? How’s the 20 percent unemployment rate in Europe suit you?
Go listen to another 15 second Obama ad and get more “facts” for yourself. If you can put down your high times mag long enough loser.
cc
November 7th, 2012
7:29 pm
MarkV::
How far is your “short bus ride to the library”? Ever thought of getting a computer for your home? On second thought, forget the last question . . .
Never mind . . .
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:30 pm
Michael H. Smith, November 7th, 2012, 7:25 pm
Well the Jews have been voting for those fascist socialist Democrat union worker’s party for a very long time now.
Oh by the way, NAZI is an acronym that stands for: “National Socialist Democrat Workers Party”. In fact, the NAZI Party adopted some of their ideas from the Woodrow Wilson’s American Progressives in this country: Like propaganda – also known as it is now often called, “Public Relations”>>>
Hate to break it to you but I’m half German and know more about Nazis than you ever will. Propaganda is spreading lies as fact. I guess Fox News and their ilk telling their base that Romney was going to win in a landslide when independent analysts were showing something entirely different would define propaganda very well. And Republicans were shocked when Mitt lost by over 100 electoral votes? Nate Silver was saying that a week ago.
Goonies
November 7th, 2012
7:30 pm
“How far is your “short bus ride to the library”?”
You take it daily, so you tell Mark
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:31 pm
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
7:22 pm
Sicko, take heart.
Air Iran is ready when you are
The problem for Republicans — and this is not at all unique to Romney — is that the best hope they currently have in terms of electoral math is the 286 electoral votes that George W. Bush won in 2004. (It would actually add up to 292 electoral votes under the current allocation.) A ceiling of 292 just leaves very little room for error — for any Republican candidate now or going forward.
You anti-Darwin types need to evolve or die.
Either way, the republic wins. Just like it did last night…
When the political party has to adopt to meet the whims of the electorate they are no longer leaders. They are tools of a democracy. This is no longer a republic. This is a democracy driven by a media that knows the politicians have to answer to their agenda to get elected. We’ll be Greece by 2020 with China showing up on on our streets to collect the money we borrowed from them to keep the government going.
cc
November 7th, 2012
7:32 pm
“@cc read the post above it ^^^^^^^^^^^
you might learn something”
I did, and I was correct: your post following this one was the most intelligent comment you made.
Goonies
November 7th, 2012
7:33 pm
FL is still a prize for Romney
He is probably watching the updates as he heads toward Iowa to start of his 2016 campaign.
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
7:35 pm
Nothing wrong with the electoral college, no need to git rid of it. The popular vote only establishes mandate and nothing else; and rightly as it never should. Bush simply had a stronger Congressional hand than does obumer presently. I’m very happy with the the election system that is in place. The GOP lost because they didn’t get out the vote, no excuses.
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:36 pm
Sick of Progs November 7th, 2012 7:26 pm
Hey moron, how are these things relevant to any of the problems facing the nation. Climate change, they want to tax businesses to impede emissions. It doesn’t fix the damage. Women’s rights? They’ve been aborting unprotected sex for years, and no one is threatening that right. Contraception? Available at schools and abortion clinics for free. Gay rights? Who gives a flying intercourse what they do in their personal lives. Trickle down economics? How’s the 20 percent unemployment rate in Europe suit you?
Go listen to another 15 second Obama ad and get more “facts” for yourself. If you can put down your high times mag long enough loser.>>>>>
LMAO…..a little sensitive, aren’t we? I guess waking up and finding out that all the “facts” you were being fed was just crap must be unpleasant. You guys want to ban abortion, want to “protect” marriage (from what), think climate change is a myth when science says otherwise, and still support trickle down economics when it’s been proven a load of crap. Remember the 50s and 60s? Tax rates on the wealthy were 90%. Guess what? The nation prospered!!! Even returning taxes to the Clinton years is for your side a return to socialism! Really???
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:37 pm
mike
November 7th, 2012
7:23 pm
Sick of progs: “We see Greece idiot. You see free healthcare and free Obamaphones.”
Well it looks like Lil’ Barry, I Report, or Tiberius has created a new sock puppet.
Let me analyze the above statement. “We see Greece idiot.” WTF does this mean except that it contains an insult? The United States is not Greece. And Greece wouldn’t be Greece if it left the EU.
“You see free healthcare and free Obamaphones.” Again, pure nonsense. WTF is an Obamaphone?
What a sick, pathetic life you must lead whoever you are today. I pity you
Ohh, another lib name caller. With true unemployment 14 to 17 percent, mandated healthcare where 1/6 of the population is already exempt, so workers pay for them, businesses hiring part time help to avoid Obamacare, what don’t you see that would liken the U.S to Greece in your sick simple mind? You think O’bysmal is going to create jobs? What is HIS PLAN moron?
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:39 pm
LMAO…..a little sensitive, aren’t we? I guess waking up and finding out that all the “facts” you were being fed was just crap must be unpleasant. You guys want to ban abortion, want to “protect” marriage (from what), think climate change is a myth when science says otherwise, and still support trickle down economics when it’s been proven a load of crap. Remember the 50s and 60s? Tax rates on the wealthy were 90%. Guess what? The nation prospered!!! Even returning taxes to the Clinton years is for your side a return to socialism! Really???
Facts Please. Where are Romney’s plans to ban abortion? What nation has trickle up economics that is thriving besides Germany? Can you tell me how Germany does it? Thought not.
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
7:41 pm
This is no longer a republic.
Dumb.
With a capital D.
Mikey, YOU are exactly why my tribe votes overwhelmingly against your party.
As in every single time since 1924.
Call us crazy, but we just ain’t into you fascists…
yoyo32
November 7th, 2012
7:41 pm
lol at watching FOX on election night. They were actually believing their own skewed polls, criticizing any polls by the ‘other’ networks with their liberal media bias. Talk about a wake-up call to reality
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
7:43 pm
cc @7:29 pm
I won’t even bother to try to understand your latest idiocy. I doubt that even you know what you are talking about.
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
7:47 pm
OK, off to join friends and celebrate how awesome this country its people are.
Not that I really need an excuse!
You America haters have a good time tonight.
Romney/Ryan 2016!
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
7:47 pm
We have become less of a Republic but we are – despite brucie wilcox tribe’s assertions that we are a Democracy – very much a Representative Republic and the electoral college is just one piece of evidence that confirms that fact. Repealing the seventeenth amendment that elects U.S. Senator by popular vote will move us back very close to what the founding fathers intended our Republican form of government to be like.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:49 pm
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
7:43 pm
cc @7:29 pm
I won’t even bother to try to understand your latest idiocy. I doubt that even you know what you are talking about.
Zing deflection by MarkV. Hey MarkV, what are Chim Chim’s plans for the next 4 years?
yoyo32
November 7th, 2012
7:51 pm
Also fun on Fox now is that they moved onto the storm on FOX news now. Too bad they missed the first one being busy exposing Benghazi gate and all how obama let those people die by letting our troops STANDDOWN (GASP) practically murdering our ambassador with his own bare hands.
Oh no wait, they still on Benghazi, maybe they can find some well-hidden forgotten WMDs while they are in the neighbourhood. Watching FOX is almost as much fun as watching the Daily show
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:52 pm
SOP (hey shorten that screen name and it fits you), forget Germany and look north to Canada. No trickle down there. And explain how this country prospered in the 50s and 60s with high taxes on the wealthy? Ban abortion? You want me to pull Romney’s quotes? What about Ryan’s quotes? Planned Parenthood? I can on with this one too. Gay marriage? Ditto to that. Heck, you Republicans don’t even believe in teaching sex education to youngsters and would rather teach them “abstinence”. Really? One reason why the South has among the highest rates of teen pregnancies. Evolution? That’s just a little theory according to many of your kind while creationism is okay. The list goes on and on.
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
7:53 pm
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:30 pm
You haven’t broken anything to me but your very obvious lack knowledge. Now hate whatever you like, the historical facts remain as I stated.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:54 pm
Oh no wait, they still on Benghazi, maybe they can find some well-hidden forgotten WMDs while they are in the neighbourhood. Watching FOX is almost as much fun as watching the Daily show
Don’t stress out about Benghazi, go back to Chris Matthews and get your warm propaganda fuzzies about the Faux nobel peace prize winner, based on his skin color.
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
7:56 pm
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:52 pm
Have you got anymore of whatever you are taking? I mean, I know it isn’t FDA approved but that’s one more hallucinogen!
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:58 pm
To the sore losers in the crowd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db542C4id5A
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
8:00 pm
Heck, you Republicans don’t even believe in teaching sex education to youngsters and would rather teach them “abstinence”. Really? One reason why the South has among the highest rates of teen pregnancies. Evolution? That’s just a little theory according to many of your kind while creationism is okay. The list goes on and on.
How young would you like the sex education to be? 12? Yeah so you can Sandusky some boys. Nambla lover.
And for your information, the biggest financial burdens on society are: single mom’s with non father (support (lack of self control/ protection), hiv ,homosexuality and injected drug use (lack of self control), cancer, smoking (lack of self control). But you embrace this.
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
8:01 pm
<<>>
RED BULL with Imperia Vodka…..completely legal and gives you wiiiiiinnnnngggggsssss!!!! LOL
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
8:03 pm
The sore winners can’t stand it because their opposition refuses to fall down at their feet and concede to worshiping them and comrade dear leader obumer mm,mm,mm
!
yoyo32
November 7th, 2012
8:04 pm
@sick of progs
is that the MSNBC dude? lol
Try CNN or maybe that’s to liberal for you. How about the BBC, i find most American news outlets are biased one way or the other. Or maybe that’s to foreign (read non/anti American) for you. Some Canadian news maybe closer to home for you? hope you got a dish, lol
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:05 pm
Romney and Ryan’s thoughts by 9 o’clock last night………..
the witching hour had struck and there was no where to run, no talk radio to cheer and no right wing websites able to run their bs that would assist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCtdKWWfZG8
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
8:07 pm
Never had Vodka like that, I mean Wild Turkey, Rum even Golden Grain pales in comparison. Fentanyl and Morphine too!
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:07 pm
This is what Rove was hearing during is now infamous meltdown last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOEQTJV_3-w
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
8:10 pm
<<<>>>>
Hey SOP, those other countries which teach 14 year olds sex education and contraception have far lower teen pregnancy rates than Dixie. Nambla??? Really? Do you get sick thoughts when talking to your kids about the “birds & bees”??? Or let me guess, your kids learn about sex online, right? BTW, lots of single mothers in other Western countries and they don’t have a huge problem with it. It’s only here where single mothers get stigmatized by people like you. HIV is mostly spread through drug use, not homosexuality. Cancer, smoking??? Really. I thought you folks wanted LESS REGULATION. Looks like you like regulation when it comes to things you disapprove of. That’s exactly why so many people with any sense are leaving the Republican Party.
Welcome to the new reality!!! Considering the states he won, Romney could have become President of the Confederate States……LMAO!!!
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:11 pm
Should have been Obama’s campaign theme song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk1tT0e4deo
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
8:13 pm
Sick of Progs @7:49 pm
“Zing deflection by MarkV”
The only charitable explanation is that you are drunk, and I do not debate with drunk people.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:16 pm
Romney’s sentiments by 11 o’clock last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fk2prKnYnI
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
8:17 pm
Looks like you like regulation when it comes to things you disapprove of.
Yeah, like the government approved fraud that caused the economic collapse which both political parties defended to the hilt.
Now, what it really looks like is you need to re-educate yourself or stop making a lot of false over the top allegations.
Mitt's A Loser....
November 7th, 2012
8:20 pm
…..and so are you, Kyle Wingfield!
Guess you better get out of the political prognostication business….Ha, Ha, Ha!
GO OBAMA! FOUR MORE GLORIOUS YEARS! HALLELUJAH!
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
8:24 pm
Uh loser…. my political prognostication batting record is far better than the liberals I’ve gone up against on these blogs – like yours!
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:26 pm
MHS
Are you speaking overall or yesterday?
Live in the now man.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 7th, 2012
8:31 pm
Dude, does America have a future?
Who cares about the Republican party?
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
8:32 pm
Mike, We can agree on that. Both parties should take equal responsibility for the financial meltdown. When Glass-Segal was struck down removing the separation of investment banking with traditional banking, the seeds of the financial collapse were firmly planted. I supported the bailout in theory because letting our largest banks go under would have ushered in a Depression versus the recession we had. However, the bailout should have come with a lot of strings attached.
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
8:33 pm
Overall, of course.
Hanging your hat on one win is not living in the now, man. That’s living far from reality. For what it is worth I’m one for one for the ,”now”, as you call it: I won on charter schools lost on obumer wining.
Real Athens
November 7th, 2012
8:33 pm
“Why do blacks continuously vote for the party that supports the continuation of Social Security and Medicare, when the vast majority of them do not live long enough to use those programs?”
Tiberius? “vast majority”?
Your sheet and pointy hat are showing again.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2012/0619/Racial-gap-in-life-expectancy-reaches-new-low-in-US
Liz
November 7th, 2012
8:37 pm
President Obama has a huge a mandate from women in general, and especially unmarried women (who want their reproductive rights protected under the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court ruling), Asians, Hispanics, Blacks, Jews, GLT, and young voters per stats published today.
Women put women in the Senate in numbers NEVER seen before.
Yesterday was a great day for women.
I suspect Romney’s lack of respect for those 47% he referred to on that infamous tape, showed up in great numbers, in support of a President who respects them.
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
8:38 pm
Time to tuck in my little girl. G’night all. POS, I worry about you with all those thoughts you have about Nambla. Get your head out of your ass and learn a few facts of life yourself. If you don’t educate youngsters about the consequences of unprotected sex, teen pregnancies are the result. Simple cause and effect. Oops, that’s science and judging from your narrow minded beliefs, that’s a dirty word.
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
8:38 pm
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin…
October 25th, 2012
4:57 pm
11 days, 11 hours and 1 minute until this long, stupid, disgusting national nightmare is ova.
buh bye obozo.
yoyo32
November 7th, 2012
8:42 pm
think he forgot to put in them 4 more years :p
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
8:46 pm
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
8:32 pm
When Glass-Segal was struck down removing the separation of investment banking with traditional banking, the seeds of the financial collapse were firmly planted.
It went far beyond ending Glass-Segal. PBS Frontline did a fantastic job of detailing exactly what took place and who was involved. Even more information has been posted on Wikipedia. Anyone who believes this was a partisan event, is in the kindest of terms, IGNORANT OF THE FACTS!
For what this is worth: Putting Glass-Segal back on the books isn’t the answer but ending or separating the government backed participation in the housing and mortgage industry. Not only because it not constitutional but because it is too darn risky and too far easy for systemic corruption to take root.
Government debt is the only instruments the Federal Government should back with the taxpayers name and money.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
8:53 pm
Regarding Fox viewers:
A whole lot of viewers who are quite surprised to find that they are once again outnumbered by Americans who actually like better access to health care and don’t all keep Carrie Mathison-style timelines of the Benghazi cables on their living room walls. Now these disappointed souls wonder: Why isn’t the world the way we thought it was Tuesday morning? Just guess where they will turn for the answer.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/11/how_fox_news_failed_the_republican_party_in_the_2012_election.html
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
9:05 pm
Oh brucie, you’ve finally convinced the Reagan Wall you’ve been talking to…. that it should not be taken down!
Goodnight.
td
November 7th, 2012
9:15 pm
Yes, the Republicans had a setback yesterday with the re election of BHO, but it is only a small setback in the grand scheme of things and may be a good thing is the long run.
Republicans held the HOR’s and are being told even as we speak that giving into the Obama agenda without getting massive conservative concessions will result in a primary challenge.
30 Governors are now Republican
29 state legislatures are now totally controlled by Republicans and in an additional 6 states at least one chamber is controlled by a Republican.
In the above 29 states the Republicans were able to gerrymander districts in such a way that the Republicans should be able to easily maintain control of the US HOR’s for the next 10 years.
In looking at the 2014 Senate races the Dems will have to defend seats in 8 states that were won by Romney and the Republicans do not have to defend any seats won by Obama.
Obama is the one that wants to leave a legacy and can not get anything accomplished without the HOR’s and complete compromise.
The only real negative thing is that we must hope that the SCOTUS conservative Judges can hang on for four more years.
Real Athens
November 7th, 2012
9:15 pm
Welcome the “young republicans” and future GOP leaders Kyle waxes poetically about. The South continues it’s long crawl backwards.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5idRvF0sKjQHkUisXIezd_jvXubug?docId=3e7426e3cb5b470584c9bea51817240f
Real Athens
November 7th, 2012
9:18 pm
“Republicans were able to gerrymander districts in such a way that the Republicans should be able to easily maintain control of the US HOR’s for the next 10 years.”
You just don’t get it, do you?
ATLien
November 7th, 2012
9:20 pm
turned on Hannity, b/c I just wanted to check the craziness. And boy it is crazy. How do you right wingers believe this tripe? Accusing Obama of running a dirty campaign? Mitt didn’t? Axelrod should be “embarrassed”. Seriously? These dudes ran one of the greatest campaigns ever. Gosh as long as this type of stuff dominates the airwaves and you ignorant conservatives believe it, you guys are in the wilderness forever.
@@
November 7th, 2012
9:31 pm
“For purposes of forging a bipartisan agreement that begins to solve the problem, we’re willing to accept new revenue, under the right conditions.”–John Boehner
The neighbor fella acts like that’s news. Where has he been during the campaign?
Eliminating subsidies and tax credits…nothing new there.
As a conservative, I’m okay with Obama’s re-election. Those who voted for him are gonna be hit with the economic realities of their mistake and it ain’t gonna be pretty. My husband and I are prepared to weather the storm. Unfortunately many aren’t
I look forward to the “Told ‘ya!” moments.
The best learned lessons are those that hit hard.
td
November 7th, 2012
9:36 pm
Real Athens
November 7th, 2012
9:18 pm
“Republicans were able to gerrymander districts in such a way that the Republicans should be able to easily maintain control of the US HOR’s for the next 10 years.”
You just don’t get it, do you?
Oh I get it. This is an ongoing battle for the heart and soul of the nation. The Progressives have been in constant battle mode since the early 1900’s. Conservatives have always thought that politics only matter a little and business is way more important. I have been fellow conservatives for years that the battle must be continual and constant and maybe they will start to listen.
ATLien
November 7th, 2012
9:38 pm
@truthbe — Very nice, that type of thinking doesn’t help your cause at all and please don’t forget to thank the white voters as well
@@ –you have no idea what you’re talking about. I bet you couldn’t explain one Obama economic policy that adversely affects the average american. Please give your own analysis not a Fox news soundbite. I dare you.
@@
November 7th, 2012
9:43 pm
Atlien:
I dare you.
Sorry…I’m not qualified in drug rehab. You’ll have to go through election withdrawals without me.
schnirt
td
November 7th, 2012
9:47 pm
TruthBe
November 7th, 2012
9:44 pm
I understand the anger but this is ridiculous and not a very constructive way to vent because you will be banned as soon as Kyle reads your post.
Archibald Leach
November 7th, 2012
9:52 pm
Kyle, I still dont understand how you supported the charter school amendment being a small government conservative. How is an unelected state board that approves charter schools against the will of a local school board a good thing?
gm
November 7th, 2012
9:55 pm
Scum Hannity blaming the media for the lost, high school drop out Rush Limbaugh saying the people that voting for Obama are welfare dependents, when will old white males conservatives especially from the south learn, kids 18-27 are not listening to you nut jobs.
Romney won the confederate vote, wow that is really something to be proud of, you will never win as long as scum like Hannity, Rush representing you
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 7th, 2012
10:06 pm
Tick…tick…tick….
ATLien
November 7th, 2012
10:10 pm
@@ — just as I figured blindly led by the ignorance spouted on fox news and talk radio. No self understanding of any issues whatsoever.
@@
November 7th, 2012
10:23 pm
@@ — just as I figured blindly led by the ignorance spouted on fox news and talk radio.
Greta, Cavuto, JER on a regular basis. NEVER talk radio.
There’s more to FOX than meets your eye. I refuse to watch Shepard Smith, not because he’s a liberal….he’s just too silly for my taste….et up with the verbal cutesies, that one. It’s impossible to take him seriously.
Dusty
November 7th, 2012
10:25 pm
Did anyone actually watch the video today? Did Bookman and Kyle throw spitballs at each other?
aper airplanes?
They should. This blog sounds like grade school stuff. You did! Did not! Did so! You dumb! Wahhh!
Maybe by tomorrow the newness of success will wear off and people will realize that we are just as bad off as we were before. Sixteen trillion dollar debt still hangs over us while growing.. Nobody knows the requirements of ObamaCare or what. Stock market low today. Taxes to get higher soon. Groceries keep inchng up. Gasoline comes down but travel isn’t fun with foreclosure hitting homes. Good jobs are NOT plentiful and unemployment still looms. China is getting skiddish.
Yeah, let’s celebrate. Prince Charming is going to be King MIdas and everything is going to turn into gold. This is Fairy land where all dreams come true and work is a faux pas .while we dance in the moonlight.
Enjoy my friends. Prince Charming has promised.
getalife
November 7th, 2012
10:31 pm
Two thumpins equals a mandate.
@@
November 7th, 2012
10:36 pm
Two thumpins equals a mandate.
And 2000…2004…2010 equalled what, Getalife?
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
10:37 pm
“And 2000…2004…2010 equalled what, Getalife?”
12 yrs, 8yrs and 2 yrs ago?
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
11:19 pm
The sky is falling!!!!!!!
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 8th, 2012
6:11 am
On topic……and the bitter truth about the GOP, which means Wingfeild will probably censor this.(it seems as if Bookman doesn’t censor the unpleasent truth as frequently).
.
I know that the term Neo-con is overused but it is a self-named term. You republicans should really educate yourself on the origins and history of Neo-Conservatism. A quick history of the start of this bankrupt philosophy——
“The “new conservatives” who now run the Republican Party and much of the Democratic Party as well, are a peculiar bunch. The leading lights of “neoconservatism” during the Reagan years “were Trotskyites who had replaced their hereditary agenda of global socialist revolution with one of a global revolution of ‘democratic capitalism.’ Unashamedly embracing Machiavellian tactics against opponents and against the American people, they gloried in ‘big government’ and fervently planned to project American armed force around the world, the national debt be damned.” None of this “could be considered a “conservative” agenda . . .”, they write.
McClanahan and Wilson don’t mention it, but the intellectual guru of most of the high profile neoconservatives was the late Leo Strauss, a University of Chicago professor. Strauss was quite the crackpot. He was an atheist who “scoffed at the idea of God,” wrote Daniel Flynn in his book, Intellectual Morons, but who nevertheless preached about the value of using religion to dupe the masses into accepting the neocons’ interventionist foreign policy agenda. The “evangelical Christians” in America would be Exhibit A of the success of this Machiavellian strategy.
A neo-con is just another type of progressive.
And the GOP is full of em.
It doesn’t bode well for your party or for America either.
.
Where does the GOP go from here?
.
Until they get rid of every last traitor who signed the NDAA…..the GOP can all go to hades.(or New York city).
.
The only future for America is Paulism.
cc
November 8th, 2012
7:32 am
True fiscal conservatism in America is dead as of November 6, 2012. The death of capitalism in America will soon follow. The majority of voters who voted for the “free stuff” will soon see the “free stuff” become unavailable. The results of these changes will prove cataclysmic. The survival of America as a nation is no longer in question. As Obama continues to weaken us economically, militarily and diplomatically, our enemies prepare themselves. The 60’s chant, “Better Red than dead” suddenly takes on a new relevance.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 8th, 2012
7:38 am
Thomas Heyward, how many bills has Ron Paul authored actually passed into law?
HDB
November 8th, 2012
7:43 am
cc
November 7th, 2012
5:40 pm
Kamchak:
I was wrong.
I placed my faith in an America that no longer exists…a whiter, racial/demographically biased America, NOT in Americans with a will to persevere through self-reliance with a “can do” attitude. Fortunately, changing demographics has placed those Americans in the minority of voters!
There…fixed your statement!!
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 8th, 2012
7:44 am
What is amusing is Steve Douchy yesterday saying the results of this election should be seen by Obama as a wake up call and he should learn his lesson and moderate his goals for the next 4 years.
I guess he doesn’t understand who won and who lost. Boy, I sure am glad the people on the other 99% of news media shows aren’t this delusional.
dcb
November 8th, 2012
7:45 am
Mandate – schmandate. 52% may be in political terms a mandate. But the way I look at it – barely over half our citizens out there feel “my way is the best way” mantra of the president. Including and especially virtually half the states (including Georgia) that went red and have state and local governments definitely not agreeing with the top-down government system. 52% these days in federal elections is far from a mandate – I’d suggest moving the bar up to at least 60% plus for that term – especially with the liberal media so intimately involved in getting their candidates’ philosophical positions in front of an emotional public (rich, womens’ rights, gay marriage, illegal immigrants, photo id, etc) – including those like the AJC and CNN who claim to be objective in their reporting.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 8th, 2012
7:45 am
Hey cons, I thought ya’ll were taking yer country back?
fail
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 8th, 2012
7:46 am
dcb, it’s a mandate. Obama won by a larger margin than Shrub in 2004. If I recall correctly, that was considered a mandate.
Obama has a mandate.
JDW
November 8th, 2012
7:59 am
Mandate-The concept of a government having a legitimate mandate to govern via the fair winning of a democratic election is a central idea of democracy. New governments who attempt to introduce policies that they did not make public during an election campaign are said to not have a legitimate mandate to implement such policies.
If Obama suddenly decided to slash taxes 20%, increase defense spending and turn Medicare into a voucher he has no mandate….
On the other hand if he asks the rich to pay more, continues to match defense expenditures to needs and agressively rolls out Obamacare…yes he does.
bu2
November 8th, 2012
8:00 am
@C.S.
The US prospered in the 50s and early 60s because the rest of the industrialized world was destroyed in WWII. JFK lowered taxes to try to stimulate things in the early 60s. And the 70s were an era of tough times. Jimmy brought us 21% mortgage rates, double digit inflation and 8% unemployment. It took Reagan to lower tax rates and get the economy rolling again.
Michael H. Smith ~ toc, toc, toc... we approach the Marxist Socialist cliff
November 8th, 2012
8:02 am
Socialism is the word for a failed immoral socioeconomic system derived from the evil mind of Karl Marx because he could not think of any thing worst to offer the world of the mentally slothful who are too lazy and scared to work for what they need, in lieu of Capitalism that demands everyone earn what they can to meet their needs based on their own abilities.
No more obumer phone, foo stamps, EBT cards, section 8 houses or welfare redistribution as obumer wants it:
From each according to their ability to each according to their need
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 8th, 2012
8:19 am
Michael H Smith, I think you need to worry about the padded cell instead of the fiscal cliff.
Just sayin’.
tiredofIT
November 8th, 2012
8:24 am
Obama Wins 8 of 10 Wealthiest Counties in US
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 8th, 2012
8:25 am
Tiberius – pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 8th, 2012
7:38 am
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Only a collectivist or Hardcore progressive would measure a man’s worth by how many laws he passed.
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It’s never to late for enlightenment.
Liberty should not be feared and the big government who you expect to protect you…won’t.
No matter how many laws are passed.
tiredofIT
November 8th, 2012
8:34 am
Savage Nation, WND, Blaze,Beibart … Here’s your sign
MC
November 8th, 2012
8:36 am
Where do they go? Down the road to oblivion if they keep alienating Latinos and women. Leave a woman’s reproductive system out of the conversation. It’s her business and hers alone. Get on board with comprehensive immigration reform. Most importantly purge the right wing from the party. Their neanderthal social views don’t fly in the 21st century. Get rid of them Whatever it takes and bring back the moderates and independents that abhor their vile social agenda. If republicans don’t do this they may never see the White House again. And with the power of the Latino vote 100% evident on Tuesday it won’t be long before the republicans lose a multitude of seats in the senate. Republicans better learn it not wise to keep poking the bear in the eye with a stick. Eventually he will devour your. He started eating this past Tuesday.
Michael H. Smith ~ toc, toc, toc... we approach the Marxist Socialist cliff
November 8th, 2012
8:37 am
You shouldn’t think brucie wilcox, with only two half live oxygen depraved brain cells in your COPD head to keep your lungs working, you should worry about that padded box old buddy.
clem
November 8th, 2012
8:54 am
to td, cc, going right etc….you folks were wrong. the converse is true. learn or become extinct.
mike
November 8th, 2012
9:07 am
Judging from TruthBe’s comments on the preceeding page, its obvious that Kyle’s not around. I suspect that those comments will be removed and TruthBe’s days of blogging here are numbered.
mike
November 8th, 2012
9:09 am
I enjoyed reading them, though. It shows the raw emotion the “lower” right has invested in this whole thing. Throw your toys all around the room, hold your breath till you turn blue. We’re all enjoying the show!
clem
November 8th, 2012
9:18 am
mike, read those truthbe rants, whoa…..would love to me that fellow in a dark ally someday.
cc
November 8th, 2012
9:22 am
HDB@7:43 am:
“There…fixed your statement!!”
It wasn’t broken and needed no repair.
Michael H. Smith@8:02 am:
“From each according to their ability to each according to their need”
The Obama doctrine is slightly different: From each according to their monetary success, to each according to their “wants”.
curious
November 8th, 2012
9:27 am
Truthbe’s rants actually represent what most of the conservative posters, Boortz, Hannity, Limbaugh,etc think but aren’t brave enough to say out loud
Similar to Romney’s 47% remark; he meant it.
Kyle Wingfield
November 8th, 2012
9:43 am
TruthBe: And now you’re gone from this blog, too.
Grob Hahn
November 8th, 2012
9:43 am
The discussion everyone seems to be avoiding is how American politics has fundamentally changed. The non-white population of America has made it clear they will vote largely along racial lines. Very few of them voted republican. The ONLY reason Obama has his keister in the oval office is because white voters are NOT using race as their primary voting basis. This is a huge difference.
What it means is that the only way the republican party can rise from this point forward is to play the same race game as the democrats. The republicans need to be the party of white America. Romney proved how far they have their heads in the sand.
Everyone needs to realize that if white Americans were largely racists, we would not have a black president for many more decades to come. White Americans have made fantastic progress in terms of racial reconciliation and acceptance. Non-white Americans have regressed during the same time period and have become more racist than ever before in history.
To this point I agree with Eric Holder; America really is afraid to talk about race. But this election and all the gloating over the loss of political influence among white people is certain proof that the racial pendulum is nearing the extreme of travel and will begin to return.
Grobbbbbbbbbbbbb
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 8th, 2012
10:31 am
curious: Truthbe’s rants actually represent what most of the conservative posters, Boortz, Hannity, Limbaugh,etc think but aren’t brave enough to say out loud.
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In your imagination, anyway.
clem
November 8th, 2012
10:34 am
quote of the night: Megyn Kelly (FOX) asked this of Karl Rove: “Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better, or is this real?”
Flounder
November 8th, 2012
11:10 am
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville
independent thinker
November 9th, 2012
9:27 am
Flounder _ sounds like time to head over the fiscal cliff and raise taxes- thanks for supporting Obama
4 more years
November 9th, 2012
10:35 am
I was thinking about where the GOP needs to go next and this is what I decided:
Option A: The economy will continue to falter. People will look to fiscally conservative people to reverse the problem.
Option B: The economy will continue to falter and people will continue to support democrats so everyone might as well give up trying to produce and get in line for handouts. Obviously not sustainable—however, it is more logical than working to support a nanny state. In other words, if you don’t get to the rewards of your labor, give up.
I personally don’t see another likely result. The question is at what point should “the makers” opt out of the system; I suppose that point is the day that it is more advantageous to be a moocher than a productive citizen.
I know that the GOP is going to be saying let’s rally, but if we have reached critical mass (more takers than makers): The GOP is finished. And the American dream has become the American nightmare.