10:44 am November 7, 2012, by Kyle Wingfield
Here’s the third installment of the Google+ Hangouts that Jay Bookman, Aaron Gould Sheinin and I have been doing. Spoiler alert: You’ll see more disagreement between Jay and me than in the first two…
Please feel free to keep talking on the thread downstairs as well.
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curious
November 8th, 2012
9:27 am
Truthbe’s rants actually represent what most of the conservative posters, Boortz, Hannity, Limbaugh,etc think but aren’t brave enough to say out loud
Similar to Romney’s 47% remark; he meant it.
Kyle Wingfield
November 8th, 2012
9:43 am
TruthBe: And now you’re gone from this blog, too.
Grob Hahn
November 8th, 2012
9:43 am
The discussion everyone seems to be avoiding is how American politics has fundamentally changed. The non-white population of America has made it clear they will vote largely along racial lines. Very few of them voted republican. The ONLY reason Obama has his keister in the oval office is because white voters are NOT using race as their primary voting basis. This is a huge difference.
What it means is that the only way the republican party can rise from this point forward is to play the same race game as the democrats. The republicans need to be the party of white America. Romney proved how far they have their heads in the sand.
Everyone needs to realize that if white Americans were largely racists, we would not have a black president for many more decades to come. White Americans have made fantastic progress in terms of racial reconciliation and acceptance. Non-white Americans have regressed during the same time period and have become more racist than ever before in history.
To this point I agree with Eric Holder; America really is afraid to talk about race. But this election and all the gloating over the loss of political influence among white people is certain proof that the racial pendulum is nearing the extreme of travel and will begin to return.
Grobbbbbbbbbbbbb
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 8th, 2012
10:31 am
curious: Truthbe’s rants actually represent what most of the conservative posters, Boortz, Hannity, Limbaugh,etc think but aren’t brave enough to say out loud.
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In your imagination, anyway.
clem
November 8th, 2012
10:34 am
quote of the night: Megyn Kelly (FOX) asked this of Karl Rove: “Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better, or is this real?”
Flounder
November 8th, 2012
11:10 am
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville
independent thinker
November 9th, 2012
9:27 am
Flounder _ sounds like time to head over the fiscal cliff and raise taxes- thanks for supporting Obama
4 more years
November 9th, 2012
10:35 am
I was thinking about where the GOP needs to go next and this is what I decided:
Option A: The economy will continue to falter. People will look to fiscally conservative people to reverse the problem.
Option B: The economy will continue to falter and people will continue to support democrats so everyone might as well give up trying to produce and get in line for handouts. Obviously not sustainable—however, it is more logical than working to support a nanny state. In other words, if you don’t get to the rewards of your labor, give up.
I personally don’t see another likely result. The question is at what point should “the makers” opt out of the system; I suppose that point is the day that it is more advantageous to be a moocher than a productive citizen.
I know that the GOP is going to be saying let’s rally, but if we have reached critical mass (more takers than makers): The GOP is finished. And the American dream has become the American nightmare.