Post-election video chat: Where does GOP go from here, and does Obama have a mandate?
Here’s the third installment of the Google+ Hangouts that Jay Bookman, Aaron Gould Sheinin and I have been doing. Spoiler alert: You’ll see more disagreement between Jay and me than in the first two…
Please feel free to keep talking on the thread downstairs as well.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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yoyo32
November 7th, 2012
7:18 pm
Enter your comments here
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:18 pm
Sick of Progs November 7th, 2012 7:12 pm
Conservatives look down on Liberals? You’re kidding??? Who knew.
Actually, we call you folks knuckle draggers because in everything you say, you show how little you all evolved. You folks are all on the wrong side of history in regards to climate change, trickle-down economics, women’s rights, gay rights, contraception, abortion, etc, etc
Heck, when you knuckle-draggers were democrats, you were all on the wrong side of race too. Then you switched sides and became Republicans!
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:20 pm
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
7:15 pm
Sick of Progs@7:12 pm
You have already proven your stupidity – why piling it on?
In your opinion, which means nothing to about 50 percent of the bloggers in here. The rest laugh at your short bus ride to the library to blog.
You are too funny
November 7th, 2012
7:21 pm
Stop the press. Thulsa won.
Jay send that man this weeks prize. I believe you mentioned it was the Ronco Whopper Chopper.
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
7:22 pm
Sicko, take heart.
Air Iran is ready when you are
The problem for Republicans — and this is not at all unique to Romney — is that the best hope they currently have in terms of electoral math is the 286 electoral votes that George W. Bush won in 2004. (It would actually add up to 292 electoral votes under the current allocation.) A ceiling of 292 just leaves very little room for error — for any Republican candidate now or going forward.
You anti-Darwin types need to evolve or die.
Either way, the republic wins. Just like it did last night…
cc
November 7th, 2012
7:22 pm
yoyo32″
“Enter your comments here”
This is the most intelligent comment you’ve made tonight!
mike
November 7th, 2012
7:23 pm
Sick of progs: “We see Greece idiot. You see free healthcare and free Obamaphones.”
Well it looks like Lil’ Barry, I Report, or Tiberius has created a new sock puppet.
Let me analyze the above statement. “We see Greece idiot.” WTF does this mean except that it contains an insult? The United States is not Greece. And Greece wouldn’t be Greece if it left the EU.
“You see free healthcare and free Obamaphones.” Again, pure nonsense. WTF is an Obamaphone?
What a sick, pathetic life you must lead whoever you are today. I pity you.
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:24 pm
Just to prove what a bunch of idiots now compose today’s Republican Party, remember when during the Republican Primary, they asked if any candidate believed in Evolution? Everyone said NO!!!! Heck some of your kind believe that if women are “legitimately” raped, their bodies will miraculously NOT get pregnant!!! This from a Republican Senator who sat on the Senate Science and Technology Committee??? Are you kidding me??? REALLY??? That’s the level of stupidity in today’s Republican Party. Among your kind, intelligence is a dirty word!
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
7:25 pm
them to support you would be like expecting a Jew to vote for the Nazi Party.
Well the Jews have been voting for those fascist socialist Democrat union worker’s party for a very long time now.
Oh by the way, NAZI is an acronym that stands for: “National Socialist Democrat Workers Party”. In fact, the NAZI Party adopted some of their ideas from the Woodrow Wilson’s American Progressives in this country: Like propaganda – also known as it is now often called, “Public Relations”
yoyo32
November 7th, 2012
7:25 pm
@cc read the post above it ^^^^^^^^^^^
you might learn something
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:26 pm
You folks are all on the wrong side of history in regards to climate change, trickle-down economics, women’s rights, gay rights, contraception, abortion, etc, etc
Hey moron, how are these things relevant to any of the problems facing the nation. Climate change, they want to tax businesses to impede emissions. It doesn’t fix the damage. Women’s rights? They’ve been aborting unprotected sex for years, and no one is threatening that right. Contraception? Available at schools and abortion clinics for free. Gay rights? Who gives a flying intercourse what they do in their personal lives. Trickle down economics? How’s the 20 percent unemployment rate in Europe suit you?
Go listen to another 15 second Obama ad and get more “facts” for yourself. If you can put down your high times mag long enough loser.
cc
November 7th, 2012
7:29 pm
MarkV::
How far is your “short bus ride to the library”? Ever thought of getting a computer for your home? On second thought, forget the last question . . .
Never mind . . .
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:30 pm
Michael H. Smith, November 7th, 2012, 7:25 pm
Well the Jews have been voting for those fascist socialist Democrat union worker’s party for a very long time now.
Oh by the way, NAZI is an acronym that stands for: “National Socialist Democrat Workers Party”. In fact, the NAZI Party adopted some of their ideas from the Woodrow Wilson’s American Progressives in this country: Like propaganda – also known as it is now often called, “Public Relations”>>>
Hate to break it to you but I’m half German and know more about Nazis than you ever will. Propaganda is spreading lies as fact. I guess Fox News and their ilk telling their base that Romney was going to win in a landslide when independent analysts were showing something entirely different would define propaganda very well. And Republicans were shocked when Mitt lost by over 100 electoral votes? Nate Silver was saying that a week ago.
Goonies
November 7th, 2012
7:30 pm
“How far is your “short bus ride to the library”?”
You take it daily, so you tell Mark
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:31 pm
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
7:22 pm
Sicko, take heart.
Air Iran is ready when you are
The problem for Republicans — and this is not at all unique to Romney — is that the best hope they currently have in terms of electoral math is the 286 electoral votes that George W. Bush won in 2004. (It would actually add up to 292 electoral votes under the current allocation.) A ceiling of 292 just leaves very little room for error — for any Republican candidate now or going forward.
You anti-Darwin types need to evolve or die.
Either way, the republic wins. Just like it did last night…
When the political party has to adopt to meet the whims of the electorate they are no longer leaders. They are tools of a democracy. This is no longer a republic. This is a democracy driven by a media that knows the politicians have to answer to their agenda to get elected. We’ll be Greece by 2020 with China showing up on on our streets to collect the money we borrowed from them to keep the government going.
cc
November 7th, 2012
7:32 pm
“@cc read the post above it ^^^^^^^^^^^
you might learn something”
I did, and I was correct: your post following this one was the most intelligent comment you made.
Goonies
November 7th, 2012
7:33 pm
FL is still a prize for Romney
He is probably watching the updates as he heads toward Iowa to start of his 2016 campaign.
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
7:35 pm
Nothing wrong with the electoral college, no need to git rid of it. The popular vote only establishes mandate and nothing else; and rightly as it never should. Bush simply had a stronger Congressional hand than does obumer presently. I’m very happy with the the election system that is in place. The GOP lost because they didn’t get out the vote, no excuses.
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:36 pm
Sick of Progs November 7th, 2012 7:26 pm
Hey moron, how are these things relevant to any of the problems facing the nation. Climate change, they want to tax businesses to impede emissions. It doesn’t fix the damage. Women’s rights? They’ve been aborting unprotected sex for years, and no one is threatening that right. Contraception? Available at schools and abortion clinics for free. Gay rights? Who gives a flying intercourse what they do in their personal lives. Trickle down economics? How’s the 20 percent unemployment rate in Europe suit you?
Go listen to another 15 second Obama ad and get more “facts” for yourself. If you can put down your high times mag long enough loser.>>>>>
LMAO…..a little sensitive, aren’t we? I guess waking up and finding out that all the “facts” you were being fed was just crap must be unpleasant. You guys want to ban abortion, want to “protect” marriage (from what), think climate change is a myth when science says otherwise, and still support trickle down economics when it’s been proven a load of crap. Remember the 50s and 60s? Tax rates on the wealthy were 90%. Guess what? The nation prospered!!! Even returning taxes to the Clinton years is for your side a return to socialism! Really???
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:37 pm
mike
November 7th, 2012
7:23 pm
Sick of progs: “We see Greece idiot. You see free healthcare and free Obamaphones.”
Well it looks like Lil’ Barry, I Report, or Tiberius has created a new sock puppet.
Let me analyze the above statement. “We see Greece idiot.” WTF does this mean except that it contains an insult? The United States is not Greece. And Greece wouldn’t be Greece if it left the EU.
“You see free healthcare and free Obamaphones.” Again, pure nonsense. WTF is an Obamaphone?
What a sick, pathetic life you must lead whoever you are today. I pity you
Ohh, another lib name caller. With true unemployment 14 to 17 percent, mandated healthcare where 1/6 of the population is already exempt, so workers pay for them, businesses hiring part time help to avoid Obamacare, what don’t you see that would liken the U.S to Greece in your sick simple mind? You think O’bysmal is going to create jobs? What is HIS PLAN moron?
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:39 pm
LMAO…..a little sensitive, aren’t we? I guess waking up and finding out that all the “facts” you were being fed was just crap must be unpleasant. You guys want to ban abortion, want to “protect” marriage (from what), think climate change is a myth when science says otherwise, and still support trickle down economics when it’s been proven a load of crap. Remember the 50s and 60s? Tax rates on the wealthy were 90%. Guess what? The nation prospered!!! Even returning taxes to the Clinton years is for your side a return to socialism! Really???
Facts Please. Where are Romney’s plans to ban abortion? What nation has trickle up economics that is thriving besides Germany? Can you tell me how Germany does it? Thought not.
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
7:41 pm
This is no longer a republic.
Dumb.
With a capital D.
Mikey, YOU are exactly why my tribe votes overwhelmingly against your party.
As in every single time since 1924.
Call us crazy, but we just ain’t into you fascists…
yoyo32
November 7th, 2012
7:41 pm
lol at watching FOX on election night. They were actually believing their own skewed polls, criticizing any polls by the ‘other’ networks with their liberal media bias. Talk about a wake-up call to reality
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
7:43 pm
cc @7:29 pm
I won’t even bother to try to understand your latest idiocy. I doubt that even you know what you are talking about.
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
7:47 pm
OK, off to join friends and celebrate how awesome this country its people are.
Not that I really need an excuse!
You America haters have a good time tonight.
Romney/Ryan 2016!
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
7:47 pm
We have become less of a Republic but we are – despite brucie wilcox tribe’s assertions that we are a Democracy – very much a Representative Republic and the electoral college is just one piece of evidence that confirms that fact. Repealing the seventeenth amendment that elects U.S. Senator by popular vote will move us back very close to what the founding fathers intended our Republican form of government to be like.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:49 pm
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
7:43 pm
cc @7:29 pm
I won’t even bother to try to understand your latest idiocy. I doubt that even you know what you are talking about.
Zing deflection by MarkV. Hey MarkV, what are Chim Chim’s plans for the next 4 years?
yoyo32
November 7th, 2012
7:51 pm
Also fun on Fox now is that they moved onto the storm on FOX news now. Too bad they missed the first one being busy exposing Benghazi gate and all how obama let those people die by letting our troops STANDDOWN (GASP) practically murdering our ambassador with his own bare hands.
Oh no wait, they still on Benghazi, maybe they can find some well-hidden forgotten WMDs while they are in the neighbourhood. Watching FOX is almost as much fun as watching the Daily show
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:52 pm
SOP (hey shorten that screen name and it fits you), forget Germany and look north to Canada. No trickle down there. And explain how this country prospered in the 50s and 60s with high taxes on the wealthy? Ban abortion? You want me to pull Romney’s quotes? What about Ryan’s quotes? Planned Parenthood? I can on with this one too. Gay marriage? Ditto to that. Heck, you Republicans don’t even believe in teaching sex education to youngsters and would rather teach them “abstinence”. Really? One reason why the South has among the highest rates of teen pregnancies. Evolution? That’s just a little theory according to many of your kind while creationism is okay. The list goes on and on.
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
7:53 pm
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:30 pm
You haven’t broken anything to me but your very obvious lack knowledge. Now hate whatever you like, the historical facts remain as I stated.
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
7:54 pm
Oh no wait, they still on Benghazi, maybe they can find some well-hidden forgotten WMDs while they are in the neighbourhood. Watching FOX is almost as much fun as watching the Daily show
Don’t stress out about Benghazi, go back to Chris Matthews and get your warm propaganda fuzzies about the Faux nobel peace prize winner, based on his skin color.
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
7:56 pm
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
7:52 pm
Have you got anymore of whatever you are taking? I mean, I know it isn’t FDA approved but that’s one more hallucinogen!
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:58 pm
To the sore losers in the crowd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db542C4id5A
Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
8:00 pm
Heck, you Republicans don’t even believe in teaching sex education to youngsters and would rather teach them “abstinence”. Really? One reason why the South has among the highest rates of teen pregnancies. Evolution? That’s just a little theory according to many of your kind while creationism is okay. The list goes on and on.
How young would you like the sex education to be? 12? Yeah so you can Sandusky some boys. Nambla lover.
And for your information, the biggest financial burdens on society are: single mom’s with non father (support (lack of self control/ protection), hiv ,homosexuality and injected drug use (lack of self control), cancer, smoking (lack of self control). But you embrace this.
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
8:01 pm
<<>>
RED BULL with Imperia Vodka…..completely legal and gives you wiiiiiinnnnngggggsssss!!!! LOL
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
8:03 pm
The sore winners can’t stand it because their opposition refuses to fall down at their feet and concede to worshiping them and comrade dear leader obumer mm,mm,mm
!
yoyo32
November 7th, 2012
8:04 pm
@sick of progs
is that the MSNBC dude? lol
Try CNN or maybe that’s to liberal for you. How about the BBC, i find most American news outlets are biased one way or the other. Or maybe that’s to foreign (read non/anti American) for you. Some Canadian news maybe closer to home for you? hope you got a dish, lol
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:05 pm
Romney and Ryan’s thoughts by 9 o’clock last night………..
the witching hour had struck and there was no where to run, no talk radio to cheer and no right wing websites able to run their bs that would assist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCtdKWWfZG8
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
8:07 pm
Never had Vodka like that, I mean Wild Turkey, Rum even Golden Grain pales in comparison. Fentanyl and Morphine too!
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:07 pm
This is what Rove was hearing during is now infamous meltdown last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOEQTJV_3-w
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
8:10 pm
<<<>>>>
Hey SOP, those other countries which teach 14 year olds sex education and contraception have far lower teen pregnancy rates than Dixie. Nambla??? Really? Do you get sick thoughts when talking to your kids about the “birds & bees”??? Or let me guess, your kids learn about sex online, right? BTW, lots of single mothers in other Western countries and they don’t have a huge problem with it. It’s only here where single mothers get stigmatized by people like you. HIV is mostly spread through drug use, not homosexuality. Cancer, smoking??? Really. I thought you folks wanted LESS REGULATION. Looks like you like regulation when it comes to things you disapprove of. That’s exactly why so many people with any sense are leaving the Republican Party.
Welcome to the new reality!!! Considering the states he won, Romney could have become President of the Confederate States……LMAO!!!
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:11 pm
Should have been Obama’s campaign theme song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk1tT0e4deo
MarkV
November 7th, 2012
8:13 pm
Sick of Progs @7:49 pm
“Zing deflection by MarkV”
The only charitable explanation is that you are drunk, and I do not debate with drunk people.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:16 pm
Romney’s sentiments by 11 o’clock last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fk2prKnYnI
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
8:17 pm
Looks like you like regulation when it comes to things you disapprove of.
Yeah, like the government approved fraud that caused the economic collapse which both political parties defended to the hilt.
Now, what it really looks like is you need to re-educate yourself or stop making a lot of false over the top allegations.
Mitt's A Loser....
November 7th, 2012
8:20 pm
…..and so are you, Kyle Wingfield!
Guess you better get out of the political prognostication business….Ha, Ha, Ha!
GO OBAMA! FOUR MORE GLORIOUS YEARS! HALLELUJAH!
Michael H. Smith
November 7th, 2012
8:24 pm
Uh loser…. my political prognostication batting record is far better than the liberals I’ve gone up against on these blogs – like yours!
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:26 pm
MHS
Are you speaking overall or yesterday?
Live in the now man.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 7th, 2012
8:31 pm
Dude, does America have a future?
Who cares about the Republican party?
Chris Salzmann
November 7th, 2012
8:32 pm
Mike, We can agree on that. Both parties should take equal responsibility for the financial meltdown. When Glass-Segal was struck down removing the separation of investment banking with traditional banking, the seeds of the financial collapse were firmly planted. I supported the bailout in theory because letting our largest banks go under would have ushered in a Depression versus the recession we had. However, the bailout should have come with a lot of strings attached.