Post-election video chat: Where does GOP go from here, and does Obama have a mandate?

Here’s the third installment of the Google+ Hangouts that Jay Bookman, Aaron Gould Sheinin and I have been doing. Spoiler alert: You’ll see more disagreement between Jay and me than in the first two…

Please feel free to keep talking on the thread downstairs as well.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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Sick of Progs

November 7th, 2012
5:20 pm

Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:19 pm

Dusty

Were you not one of the bloggers crowing over the last two months about Romney winning?

Bet that crow tasted like crap last night

I’d rather eat crap than vote for it..

Punked Again

November 7th, 2012
5:22 pm

Sick of himself is on his way to a melt down…

Crying and excuses….. That is all he has

Stephenson Billings

November 7th, 2012
5:23 pm

Where to put your money now that Obama has won

www .market watch. com /story/ where- to -put- your- money- if- obama- wins- 2012- 11 -06

Punked Again

November 7th, 2012
5:23 pm

Sick his melting down like his hero, Karl Rove

Cry baby cry, let the water fly

ATLien

November 7th, 2012
5:25 pm

“the mindless cult that fawns over him continues to prop up this below average person with almost no leadership skills.”

Do making ignorant illogical statements like this allow you to sleep well at night?

Columbia University / Harvard Law School / US Senate / President of the United States

That’s the definition of below average? A self made man in every respect? No elite family connection to lay the ground work. Wow you have no clue. However it doesn’t surprise me that you’re wrong about this too. You’re just wrong about a lot of stuff huh?

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right

November 7th, 2012
5:25 pm

ATLien, first, I have already admitted I was wrong. You probably missed that in your fervor to attack me falsely. Falsely, because as I always stated, that was my OPINION. Unlike others, I do not ever claim to know the future, but merely speculate based on the information I have at hand.

Now as to your suggestion that Republicans move to the middle, I happen to agree with it and have foe years

Sick of Progs

November 7th, 2012
5:26 pm

Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:23 pm

Sick his melting down like his hero, Karl Roves up get

Cry baby cry, let the water fly

What’s up getalife?

Sick of Progs

November 7th, 2012
5:27 pm

Sick of Progs
November 7th, 2012
5:26 pm

Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:23 pm

Sick his melting down like his hero, Karl Roves up get

I can tell it’s you by your spelling.
Enjoy the next 4 years buddy.

Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American

November 7th, 2012
5:27 pm

Ok, ATL, he’s good at taking advantage of affirmative action, and getting elected.

Creating jobs or balancing a budget–not so much.

cc

November 7th, 2012
5:27 pm

Sick of Progs:

It’s not just Greece . . .

Maybe we’ll find out somehow what secret deal he has with the Russians. We already know now that the administration was turning over weapons to Al-Qaeda in Benghazi. What do you bet that we will see those weapons again? Shades of “Fast and Furious” . . .

At least we won’t have to be concerned about finding a presidential candidate in 2016 . . .

jezel

November 7th, 2012
5:28 pm

The business of America is business. The GOP at one time was the party of business minded people. Social issues and government meddling in people’s private lives was not a part of the platform.

Our country needs this option today. The “snake handlers”, those who will not compromise and the self righteous… must be forced out of the GOP. Other wise the party is doomed in presidential elections .And if the citizens do not demand compromise in Congress..our country is doomed.

JamVet

November 7th, 2012
5:28 pm

The numbers really are staggeringly bad for the neocons.

Just one of them…

The GOP’s War on Women Full Scale Legislative Assault on Women’s Rights was damn expensive.

Women made up 53% of the voters last night and the GOP lost them by an 11% margin! (55 – 44)

Ouch….

Sick of Progs

November 7th, 2012
5:28 pm

Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:23 pm

Sick his melting down like his hero, Karl Rove

Cry baby cry, let the water fly

Amazing that a 2nd grader can get onto a wingfield blog..

Sick of Progs

November 7th, 2012
5:31 pm

JamVet
November 7th, 2012
5:28 pm

The numbers really are staggeringly bad for the neocons.

Just one of them…

The GOP’s War on Women Full Scale Legislative Assault on Women’s Rights was damn expensive.

Darn right. I would have thought that neo-cons would have figured out that women’s rights (total non issue) is more important than shoring up social security, medicare, 16 trillion in debt, potential war in Iran. But no, the average woman sheeple thinks her “rights to abortion and birth control” is more important. Typical emotional non thinking libs.

JamVet

November 7th, 2012
5:34 pm

Sick,

Buck up.

Your candidate and your fascist right wing ideology stink on ice.

Last night proved it. Again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3pX_shcyU

Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak

November 7th, 2012
5:34 pm

Punked Again

November 7th, 2012
5:34 pm

Sick

You might make it in the Genesis World book for the longest cry and pout without stopping…

It has been going on for hours now

ATLien

November 7th, 2012
5:35 pm

LBB,

Stupid racist comment. Crawl back into your hole. I’m willing to bet he has more raw aptitude than you.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right

November 7th, 2012
5:35 pm

However, atlien, the GOP HAD a moderate candidate, but the Obama campaign simply lied about him to tie him to conservatives. I’m sure that will be the template for future moderates as well.

cc

November 7th, 2012
5:37 pm

Sick of Progs:

Your words are wasted on JamVet: he is a renowned warrior respected far and wide for his intellect and wisdom . . .

Punked Again

November 7th, 2012
5:38 pm

cc

Bought everything his talk radio and website masters brainwashed him to believe

But take solace, the majority on this blog did the same exact thing

cc

November 7th, 2012
5:40 pm

Kamchak:

I was wrong.

I placed my faith in an America that no longer exists, and in Americans with a will to persevere through self-reliance with a “can do” attitude. Unfortunately, changing demographics has placed those Americans in the minority of voters

I am reminded of the Biblical passages from Genesis describing the peoples’ surrender of their crops, livestock and land to the Pharaoh in return for refuge from famine. The people were not saved from the famine, many starved and the remainder became slaves in service to the Pharaoh.

Conservatism as a viable entity died last night. Liberals should closely examine the results, too, because liberalism perished with conservatism. The events that will follow last night’s “free” election will occur with breath-taking rapidity and will not be what most of the “winners” expect, but you shall experience it nonetheless.

So, to the “winners” I extend my congratulations. You, like the people described in Genesis, have surrendered your worldly goods to your “Pharaoh”.

Prepare yourself for your starvation and servitude.

Dusty

November 7th, 2012
5:41 pm

Uh oh.. Kamchak is here. Another one has left the pack? They must think that Bookman decided that he and Kyle were peas in the poltical pod of peace and providence. . Conservatives that is..

I feel another video coming up . Something has to be done about this. AJC said they were for different political parties, not patty cake party timesr!!

What’d jya say? Obama? Oh yeah, he won the election. Soooo? We know. Four years mo.

ATLien

November 7th, 2012
5:42 pm

Romney, was a moderate but he pandered to the right wing fringe. Or are you disregarding all he said during the primaries? That’s his fault for not staying true to what he truly believed. That, for most reasonable people has to make you question how he would govern. Consistent pandering is not leadership, its expediency. Romney displayed no backbone and could not be trusted to a majority of the electorate. He miscalculated and that was entirely his and his team’s fault.

Punked Again

November 7th, 2012
5:43 pm

Wrong and ignorant are not one in the same…

cc check into that

Find some better info sources before making anymore of those loony predictions

Sick of Progs

November 7th, 2012
5:44 pm

Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:34 pm

Sick

You might make it in the Genesis World book for the longest cry and pout without stopping…

It has been going on for hours now

Kinda funny. You can’t read a watch. Not surprised. Only been bloggin’ here for less than an hour. But keep drinking your maddog.

Sick of Progs

November 7th, 2012
5:45 pm

Punked Again
November 7th, 2012
5:43 pm

Wrong and ignorant are not one in the same…

cc check into that

Find some better info sources before making anymore of those loony predictions

Why don’t you bring something to the table Mr. Whiny?

Punked Again

November 7th, 2012
5:47 pm

Dusty thinks that folks can only post at one blog

She is nice but not the brighest

She rants, raves, cries and moans

Simple minded and can’t stand for others to post views she can’t understand

Dusty

November 7th, 2012
5:47 pm

Dear Progs (which rhymes so well with frogs)

I always wanted Romney for a winner because he is a winner in every way. He did not suit the losers but they can still vote.

I don’t believe I ever promised he would win. I’m not Mr. Silver. I know better than to declare a victory when the battle is still going on. .

Stephenson Billings

November 7th, 2012
5:47 pm

“Fails to match McCain ‘08 total as turnout drops by 14 million…”

Obama got fewer votes than 2008 also. First time in history, IIRC, where an incumbent was re-elected with fewer votes than his first election.

Sick of Progs

November 7th, 2012
5:49 pm

JamVet
November 7th, 2012
5:34 pm

Sick,

Buck up.

Your candidate and your fascist right wing ideology stink on ice.

Last night proved it. Again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3pX_shcyU

For someone who previously hasn’t had the nads to admit he is a liberal democrat you seem to be gloating a-lot. As far as fascism goes, you brainless tools are about to embraces Obama’s rulership through executive order. Neodumba$$.

Dusty

November 7th, 2012
5:50 pm

Dear Punked Again

You are the perfect picture of “Ignorance is bliss!” Now smile.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right

November 7th, 2012
5:50 pm

Atlien, I see you were duped by the media and Obama.

Not a hysterical female

November 7th, 2012
5:50 pm

I am embarrassed to be “lumped” together as part of the hysterical female population. Women are so stupid and are slaves to the democratic party! I can’t believe that you Obama voters actually voted for him while unemployment and poverty rates among women are climbing. UFB-! Note to any democrat wanting to be elected, just lie and slander your challenger and tell women that they can’t get any abortion…. you’ll get elected- it works every time.

Sick of Progs

November 7th, 2012
5:51 pm

cc
November 7th, 2012
5:37 pm

Sick of Progs:

Your words are wasted on JamVet: he is a renowned warrior respected far and wide for his intellect and wisdom . . .

Sorry, I thought he was the opinionated guy at the bar that you regretted sitting next to…

Sick of Progs

November 7th, 2012
5:54 pm

Not a hysterical female
November 7th, 2012
5:50 pm

I am embarrassed to be “lumped” together as part of the hysterical female population. Women are so stupid and are slaves to the democratic party! I can’t believe that you Obama voters actually voted for him while unemployment and poverty rates among women are climbing. UFB-! Note to any democrat wanting to be elected, just lie and slander your challenger and tell women that they can’t get any abortion…. you’ll get elected- it works every time

It’s the same sh!t with the dems every election. Abortion, womens rights, denying old people benefits, and the electorate falls for the same sh!t everytime. And the proggies really buy into it while the world crumbles around them. Must be nice to be that ignorant…

Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak

November 7th, 2012
5:55 pm

Prepare yourself for your starvation and servitude.

Your talents at prognostication are more than a little suspect, sport.

So I think I’ll just dismiss you as a bitter, angry, sore loser.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :eek: :eek: :eek: :razz: :razz: :razz:

Sick of Progs

November 7th, 2012
5:57 pm

Kamchak – “Socialism” is just a code word for “fear,” the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 7th, 2012
5:55 pm

Prepare yourself for your starvation and servitude.

Your talents at prognostication are more than a little suspect, sport.

So I think I’ll just dismiss you as a bitter, angry, sore loser.

Things are so much better in Europe (sarc). Hey Kam, I’m guessing that you could eat corn through a picket fence with your great European teeth and dental availability. Who cares to wager?

Punked Again

November 7th, 2012
6:00 pm

Dusty

Don’t cry out loud.learn how to hide your feelings..

And yes you stated that Obama and Biden would be leaving this November.

I won’t make you look anymore foolish than you already look, so I will not post your post stating as much

Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak

November 7th, 2012
6:00 pm

…with your great European teeth and dental availability…

Born on Peachtree Street, sport.

ATLien

November 7th, 2012
6:01 pm

@Sick of Progs.

Let it go its over 4 more years. The country has spoken Go have a drink or go to the gym work off the stress in some other way.

Aquagirl

November 7th, 2012
6:01 pm

Crying still in progress.

Here, have a hanky, y’all. And if you’re so worried about jobs any of you could make RuPaul’s drama queen cut.

cc

November 7th, 2012
6:03 pm

Punked Again:

“Wrong and ignorant are not one in the same…”

I’m in complete agreement . . .

I was wrong. You voted for Obama proving your ignorance.

MarkV

November 7th, 2012
6:04 pm

Driving early this afternoon I must have felt a little masochistic, because I allowed myself to listen to Rush Limbaugh for a while. There was the expected bellyaching about the results of the election and insane ranting, Rush whining Why? Why did they not vote for Romney? And I thought: Because of you Rush, and others like you, because you and they cause the rational people to turn away in disgust. Enough of people had enough of Allen West and Joe Walsh, as well as Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock and all their symphatizers.

The same is true about some people on this blog, who in the past months have raved about Communists, Marxists, Socialists, and competed in ways to insult the elected President of this country. They have discredited the Republican party.

independent thinker

November 7th, 2012
6:05 pm

Tiberius–”"”"”"”"”"However, atlien, the GOP HAD a moderate candidate, but the Obama campaign simply lied about him to tie him to conservatives. I’m sure that will be the template for future moderates as well.”"”"”"”"”"”"
This is a good example of the psychosis and denial now going on among the cons. It has to be something that commie Muslim Obama did that caused poor Mitt to lose. It could not be Mitt stating he is seriously conservative or him taking extreme positions on taxes, regulation, the environment, women’s rights or saddling up with the most conservative neocons that could have effected the vote? Funny I did not see Obama in that videotape of the real Romney talking to his base -the 1% fat cats forcing Romney to say those extremely right wing views. Or was he there in disguise as one of the waiters with a gun pointed at Romney.?
This is the Rove disease that permeates the cons- what ever you have screwed up always and I mean always blame it on the other side.
So now we have proof positive that only the Democrats believe in individual responsibility. Thank you for reinforcing that Tiberius for all of us to see..

Punked Again

November 7th, 2012
6:07 pm

Cc

It is you who buys into that talk radio crap, as well as those right wing wacko sites

That is your ignorance and gullibility

Own it, live it, accept it

You will feel better

JamVet

November 7th, 2012
6:07 pm

cc, don’t hate me just because I damn near perfectly predicted the inevitable neocon train wreck that was coming.

I said repeatedly and beginning many months ago that this election was over way back then. Obama was beatable. But by that clusterrflub of a slate of candidates? That is twice in a row that the GOP has trotted out absurdly laughable and unelectable fringe elements. You know the names. We all do.

The awful Joe Walsh, Alan West, Todd Akin, Scott Brown, George Allen and Richard Mourdock all deservedly kicked to the curb.

Tammy Duckworth and Tulsi Gabbard – the first two female combat veterans elected to the United States Congress. Salute!!!

And on and on and on and on.

This election was MUCH more than just a victory for the skinny black guy over the morphing fraud. It was another nationwide repudiation of right wing fanaticism, willful stupidity and incompetence.

To wit, the hijacked, hemorrhaging and horrific GOP lost all of the following demographics. (Again.)

American women, American Jews, African-Americans, American Latinos, all other American minorities and all of the centers of commerce, culture and education in this country.

Wake up. And tell Mr. West that McCarthyism died a horrible, public death sixty years ago.

Don’t shoot the messenger.

Or do!

LOL…

Sick of Progs

November 7th, 2012
6:08 pm

Aquagirl
November 7th, 2012
6:01 pm

Crying still in progress.

Here, have a hanky, y’all. And if you’re so worried about jobs any of you could make RuPaul’s drama queen cut.

Oh yeah, the job market is cooking with full time jobs with bennies (sarc). Or can’t you google because your laptop isn’t waterproof Aquagirl?

cc

November 7th, 2012
6:10 pm

Kamchak:

“So I think I’ll just dismiss you as a bitter, angry, sore loser.”

Doesn’t work quite like that, you Booki-man wanna be.

However, you are dismissed.

Dusty

November 7th, 2012
6:16 pm

Women are not to be blamed for this fiasco.. Not me! Nien! NO! Not ever! Negative!

On second thought, there might be one or two. There’s the bubble lib lady Aquagirl who would walk a mile just for a smile from U-kno-who. And there is the wampum woman Lizzie Warren , who doesn’t know the truth from a turnip.( a trait which appeals to liberals)

Other than that, do not blame the innocents. The hand that rocks the cradle may hit you where it hurts if you don’t hush.