Election Day Video: Jay Bookman and I discuss who wins and what’s next
With the election results almost upon us, Jay Bookman, Aaron Gould Sheinin and I decided it was time for another chat using Google+ Hangout. Check it out:
Depending on how quickly the results come in tonight, we’ll do another of these either tonight or tomorrow morning.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
November 6th, 2012
12:56 pm
Check out the mural of the Messiah, in one of the polling precincts in Philly. Kinda reminds me of a Cuban election.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/06/judge-issuing-order-to-reinstate-booted-philadelphia-election-officials/
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
1:05 pm
Anne Romney is looking forward to 3.5 years of vacation starting tomorrow.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
1:08 pm
I clicked on that Fox News link and all of a sudden I started disparaging minorities and elderly people.
That’s some strong hate power!
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
1:10 pm
Kyle hasn’t changed clothes since the last time he did a video blog!
What are they paying you, Kyle? Blank newsprint paper?
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
1:10 pm
Court-appointed Republican poll inspectors are being forcibly removed from voting stations in some Philadelphia wards and replaced in some cases by Democratic inspectors and even members of the Black Panthers, according to GOP officials.
Key phrase being the last one.
According to GOP officials.
Fail
Aquagirl
November 6th, 2012
1:13 pm
Kyle hasn’t changed clothes since the last time he did a video blog!
Yeah, but he did take the time to muzzle his co-workers. Please remember to untie them, Kyle.
JF McNamara
November 6th, 2012
1:14 pm
So, Jay’s writing is generally much more in depth and fact driven, but he came off like a frazzled drunkard. I often doubt the facts in your article, but you came off like a polished political pundit. I’m confused now. I wish I’d never seen that video.
MrLiberty
November 6th, 2012
1:17 pm
What’s next?? Same old, same old. Nothing fundamentally ever changes with elections in this country and that is exactly how the powers-that-be like it.
Seriously, What exactly is fundamentally different about Obama and Romney’s positions on these critical issues: Ending the empire, slashing military spending, restoring sound money, abolishing the Federal Reserve, eliminating unconstitutional government agencies, restoring a free market in health care, restoring a free market in everything else, ending the failed war on drugs, ending the ethanol subsidy program, ending agriculture subsidies, ending bank bailouts, eliminating entitlement programs, ending the income tax for everyone, ending the wars in the middle east and bringing all the troops home to defend America, restoring integrity to our election system by banning all electronic/unauditable voting machines. You get my point. I could go on for hours showing that on every major issue that would actually positively impact the American economy and restore freedom and liberty, Obama and Romney are both the same and both on the side of continued tyranny. No hope for change folks. The ship is headed for the proverbial cliff and though you may notice a slightly decreased rate of acceleration from one, the end result will be the same. Prepare, buy gold, buy food, get your money out of the dollar and out of treasury bills, and prepare for the disaster that lies ahead.
Kyle Wingfield
November 6th, 2012
1:18 pm
Finn: It’s a different shirt. And pants, not that you can see those.
They BOTH suck
November 6th, 2012
1:22 pm
Kyle
Good job expressing views and projections.
iggy
November 6th, 2012
1:28 pm
Bookmans toupee’ looked well ironed.
Jerry Eads
November 6th, 2012
1:28 pm
Bravo, you two. Do wish Jay would temper his uber-liberal gambits (but most of the time methinks he’s in the sane range) and VERY much wish Kyle would be CONSERVATIVE and not “right wing” or just plain radical (witness knee-jerk support of the Amendment 1 debacle which is actually “You voters are just plain too stupid to take care of your schools so we’ll do it for you” – which is not under any rational definition “conservative”), but hats off for avoiding the dueling field.
southpaw
November 6th, 2012
1:39 pm
Two observations:
1. The first black President WAS re-elected…in 1996.
2. Much as I hate to say it, we probably WILL hear about lawsuits, not election results, come tomorrow morning. Here’s a good start:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/11/judge-sets-hearing-in-ohio-provisional-votes-fight-148512.html?hp=l13
My guess is one candidate will have a bit over 260 electoral votes, the other a bit over 250 electoral votes. I won’t guess which is which. Whoever wins the lawsuit, and then Ohio, wins the election. This brings to mind something I read during the hubbub surrounding the election 12 years ago. Replace November 8th with November 6th and 2005 with 2017, and it should make a little more sense: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blrevocation.htm
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
1:42 pm
“So, Jay’s writing is generally much more in depth and fact driven, but he came off like a frazzled drunkard.”
No, his writing is about on par with the frazzled drunkard as well . . .
Del
November 6th, 2012
1:48 pm
I would disagree with Jay, on the last question. If Obama loses it will be a repudiation of his policies. He’s gone far left in his first term and that wasn’t just intended to energize his base it’s the way Obama believes. The Democrats would have to re-think their strategy even if Obama wins what’s appearing to be a very close election. Of course even with those two scenarios the Democrats may not re-think their strategies as they’re pretty smug in believing that the country is trending far left. The financial collision course we’re on may ultimately turn the country far right of center. If Obama wins reelection he may end up wishing he hadn’t.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
November 6th, 2012
1:53 pm
Del
I agree with what you said, it is called over reaching and Dems are famous for that. Think Pelosi in 2007, when she came in like the demon she is, and just pushed everyone aside and said here is how we are going to govern, ignoring whatever procedures and past protocols that were previously used.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
November 6th, 2012
1:55 pm
BTW: Kyle good job on the video, you shined for us right thinkers.
Del
November 6th, 2012
1:57 pm
Yeah Kyle, ditto what Rafe said.
Dusty
November 6th, 2012
2:02 pm
Sorry, Kyle. I’d like to see/hear you but I am not watching your video ( not that anybody cares but me)..
As Bookman “moderates” many conservatives off of his blog, I am “moderating” him off of my screen.
I can get a very good discussion of this election from other sources.
You have to work with Bookman. I don’t.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
2:03 pm
I’ll disagree with Jay’s assessment as well. If Obama loses, the Democrats SHOULD consider changing ideologies, but the the question is whether they can face that reality and actually change them.
They’re a pig-headed lot, the Pelosi-Reid-Schumer wing.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
2:05 pm
BTW, Kyle. Nice job. But update the wardrobe, man . . .
Break out of that color wheel!
East Lake Ira
November 6th, 2012
2:07 pm
Awwww, is poor wittle Dusty butthurt?
Awwww, poor baby.
Dusty
November 6th, 2012
2:10 pm
East Lake Ira,
Nope, not butt hurt . Just selective!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 6th, 2012
2:18 pm
And, the most accurate pollster in both 2004 and 2008 says -
FINAL RASMUSSEN: R 49% O 48%…
Works for me.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
2:23 pm
If Obama loses, the Democrats SHOULD consider changing ideologies, but the the question is whether they can face that reality and actually change them
And if Obama wins, the first ever in such a hurting economy, the Cons will change their ideologies to accept the new norm in America?
I didn’t think so.
We are going to see the Conservative ideology hung up in a closet today. To be forgotten forever…
H.E. Pennypacker
November 6th, 2012
2:24 pm
I have never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as a cause for withdrawing from a friendship…….Thomas Jefferson
I don’t want to watch this video, lest I be exposed to conflicting viewpoints……Dusty.
hsn
November 6th, 2012
2:24 pm
Kyle Wingfield said,
“I proudly cast my vote for the president. He has been a world-class leader even under extreme partisan opposition, record Republican fillibusters, and surrogate assaults. He killed our No.1 wanted man – Osama bin Laden, instituted badly needed banking regulations, ended the expensive war in Iraq, signed the fair-pay act for women, ended DOMA, rescued our auto industry from total collapse, and our economy from bleeding 800k jobs a month, among others.
Considering the hand dealt him by his predecessor and what he has accomplished in almost 4 short years under unimaginably difficult circumstances, I couldn’t live with myself if I did not help MOVE our country FORWARD by voting for our president.
I therefore, urge all my readers and voters to vote Obama/Biden 2012. It is the least we can do for our country.”
=========================================================
Great write-up, Kyle! What took you so long?
Beyond The Middle of the Road
November 6th, 2012
2:26 pm
Whether you disagree with them or not I think the AJC is well-served by both Jay and Kyle.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
2:31 pm
Finn, here’s the thing: the liberal ideology DIDN’T WORK!
No administration in the history of this nation has ever had such a slow (and in some instances non-existent) recovery from an economic downturn.
And don’t try that tired old “but the GOP were obstructionists” crap, because according to that contrived list of his alleged accomplishments you touted on the previous column, he got 96% of his legislation through IN THE FIRST YEAR! He got most everything he wanted through his second year.
You can’t have it both ways, sonny-boy.
Maybe if he actually TRIED to work with the GOP instead of dismissing their ideas out of hand, he might have gotten something through in years 3 or 4, but if he doesn’t learn to play nice in the sandbox (if he’s re-elected of course), he’s going to have the same problems for AT LEAST 2 more, if not 4 more years.
Romney will at least work with the other side, and watch him peel off a couple of moderate Dems if he’s elected to get through his agenda.
Kyle Wingfield
November 6th, 2012
2:34 pm
hsn @ 2:24: That’s about as accurate as anything else you’ve posted here.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
2:35 pm
hsn, why must you post obvious lies like your 2:24 to make points?
Oh, that’s right – you’re a liberal.
Del
November 6th, 2012
2:37 pm
We are going to see the Conservative ideology hung up in a closet today. To be forgotten forever…
Finn, clearly doesn’t know very much about America and her history.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
2:43 pm
You can’t have it both ways, sonny-boy.
Tiberius, sweetie pie, how many EV’s did Obama win in 2008? Overwhelming victory. No one expected the slow, out of touch conservatives to become liberal and forward thinking.
Now, show me an administration that digs itself out of that deep a hole in 4 years. It’s impossible. We warned you Cons back in the early 00’s that it was going to take a really long time to dig out of the hole W was going to leave us in. See, I’m a good prognosticator – on the spot.
Linda
November 6th, 2012
2:44 pm
The American people are voting on either stuff or substance. It’s most likely that substance will win out because the money for the stuff is gone.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
2:45 pm
he’s going to have the same problems for AT LEAST 2 more, if not 4 more years
Big O will deal with whatever hand he is dealt.
stands for decibels
November 6th, 2012
2:47 pm
Jay’s writing is generally much more in depth and fact driven, but he came off like a frazzled drunkard.
That’s called “working from home.”
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
2:47 pm
“Tiberius, sweetie pie, how many EV’s did Obama win in 2008? Overwhelming victory.”
And that means – what – in the discussion, Finn?
Answer = Nothing.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
2:49 pm
“Big O will deal with whatever hand he is dealt.”
Beyond the blind and nonsensical response, Finn, HOW?
He’s shown ZERO capacity to play nice with others. ZERO. He’ll be stuck with a GOP House and a neutered Senate – just like the last 4 years.
What does he do differently?
cc
November 6th, 2012
2:53 pm
“As Bookman “moderates” many conservatives off of his blog, I am “moderating” him off of my screen. ”
Good for you, Dusty!
Linda
November 6th, 2012
2:54 pm
Reagan dug us out of a deep economic hole in 17 months.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40242.html
Obama’s “recovery” has not even started since the unemployment rate is higher now than when he took office. He has not created ONE NET job.
Mike
November 6th, 2012
2:56 pm
republicans have got to quit getting tricked into arguing over silly issues.
cc
November 6th, 2012
2:57 pm
“Big O will deal with whatever hand he is dealt.”
Just as he dealt with “Operation Fast and Furious”, in which Border Patrol agent Terry was killed with one of those weapons?
Just as he dealt with Benghazi, where four Americans were refused assistance and were killed?
cc
November 6th, 2012
3:01 pm
“He’s shown ZERO capacity to play nice with others. ZERO. He’ll be stuck with a GOP House and a neutered Senate – just like the last 4 years.”
No, he won’t.
He will be in Hawaii playing golf – permanently. President Romney will be dealing with all the problems.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
3:03 pm
Benghazi…..Boo!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
3:03 pm
I’m with ya, cc!
I still have hope that someday Finn with think for himself before posting, instead of finding some whacko lib website to link to.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
3:07 pm
Just like a heartless liberal to dismiss the murders of 4 Americans, Finn.
Way to class it up.
You are the perfect example of an Obama myrmidon. It doesn’t matter the subject.
Linda
November 6th, 2012
3:09 pm
Actually, if Obama looses, he can start campaigning Wed. for 2016. He can keep the teleprompters & can use the jet & chopper for another 2 1/2 mts. He’s been campaigning for over 4 years & has another 4 years to really get it down pat.
Rush
November 6th, 2012
3:15 pm
Same here, Dusty. The trunk monkey Bookie man can go play with his like minded libtards on his website which tries to moderate out anyone with a divergent point of view.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
3:16 pm
Tomorrow, we come for your guns!
booh!
Eric Holder!
booh!
Rush
November 6th, 2012
3:18 pm
Finn and class are mutually exclusive terms.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
3:18 pm
Kyle’s blog is the safe haven where the Cons can live out their fact-free, irresponsible, bubble lives.
It’s like arguing with the walls!
Michael H. Smith
November 6th, 2012
3:19 pm
He’s shown ZERO capacity to play nice with others. ZERO. He’ll be stuck with a GOP House and a neutered Senate – just like the last 4 years.
What does he do differently?
Differently would be more like worst than the last 2 years, because of obumer’s fascist Marxist ideologies that have failed and polarized over half the people in the nation who are now dead-set against him.
obumer will never be able to lead even if he does win – And winning remains a very big “IF”
Linda
November 6th, 2012
3:19 pm
If Obama is re-elected, will the economy he inherits in Jan., 2013 be his fault or will it still be Bush’s fault? If there a statute of limitations on blame? If Obama is re-elected & fails again to get the economy straightened out, can he still blame Bush for the next 4 years, that is, 8 years total?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
3:20 pm
ohoh, the conservative victimization is strong today.
Bookman, doesn’t like me!
Bookman doesn’t play fair!
Bookman calls me out!
Liberals are sooooo mean.
roswell mom
November 6th, 2012
3:20 pm
Well, if Romney can’t get it done, the GOP is grooming Joe the Plumber to run in 2016.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
3:20 pm
How about this for a distracting subject?
If Obama wins, who stays and who goes in his cabinet? We already know that Hillary has said she’s a one-termer, and rumors abound that Geithner is leaving as well, but anybody else? And who might be on the short list of replacements?
Same for a President Romney. What will his cabinet look like?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
3:22 pm
I thought Hillary said she was sticking around.
cc
November 6th, 2012
3:24 pm
“I still have hope that someday Finn with think for himself before posting,”
That won’t happen.
Finn blasts this blog with staccato bursts of bovine effluvia daily. I have become convinced that he only seeks reaction. Maybe if he is denied the satisfaction of the anticipated reaction, he will give up and return to Bookie-man.
roswell mom
November 6th, 2012
3:24 pm
Linda – the GOP largely let Obama off the hook on the economy by refusing to vote for his jobs programs, etc. If he’d gotten some of those things approved, then, if they didn’t work, the GOP would be able to use it against Obama. Of course, any GOP encumb. who works for compromise is subject to being ousted in his/her home state primary by another GOP’er running to the right of him/her. Maybe the true conservatives actually win with an Obama win – nothing is more anti-change than gridlock.
Michael H. Smith
November 6th, 2012
3:26 pm
Ah too bad you can’t rename this blog brucie wilcox, Finn. Then you fascist socialists could censor facts you don’t like.
td
November 6th, 2012
3:26 pm
John Bolton- Sec of State
John McCain- Sec of Defense
Ron Paul- Sec of Health and Human services.
Alan West- Sec Department of homeland security
iggy
November 6th, 2012
3:27 pm
You are Anti-change!! NO…You are! Uhn uh…now way, its you and you and you…..
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
3:27 pm
Funny, we libs don’t spend our entire day on Bookman’s blog trying to talk the cons into leaving. I think it’s a matter of the cons over here not being able to deal with a little heat.
Of course, that is why they like Fox News – 24 hours of telling me nothing I don’t want to hear. Don’t like to hear the other side of an argument or consider that maybe they aren’t right on everything.
Nice little bubble world.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
3:28 pm
“the GOP largely let Obama off the hook on the economy by refusing to vote for his jobs programs, etc.”
Two words, roswell mom: Fantasy bull.
Obama got EVERYTHING he asked for in the first 2 years of his Presidency, and the GOP was powerless to obstruct it.
Revisionist history will not go unchallenged here.
southpaw
November 6th, 2012
3:32 pm
Is Kamchak on injured reserve right now? Several posts that look like his have Finn’s name on them, and somehow I can’t see him name-jacking Finn.
td – If anybody can get HHS to its proper size, it’s Ron Paul.
Michael H. Smith
November 6th, 2012
3:32 pm
Yeah you libs cried like babies when I posted things on bookman and tucker’s blogs trying to get me to leave but after a while of enduring boring dolts, I found better places and people to associate with on Kyle’s blog.
iggy
November 6th, 2012
3:33 pm
” 24 hours of telling me nothing I don’t want to hear. ”
Huh, what? Oh!! More of the street venacular?
roswell mom
November 6th, 2012
3:33 pm
Tib – the first two years of O’s economic concerns were along the lines of trying to prevent the Great Depression redux. Yeah, he got most of what he wanted during that window and the slide downward was mostly halted. The S&P went up, what, about 80%, preserving the retirement hopes of millions. We began adding jobs, rather than continuing shedding jobs. The US auto industry was saved. Put that non-revisionist history in your pipe and smoke it. You’re clearly smoking something else today.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
3:34 pm
“Of course, that is why they like Fox News – 24 hours of telling me nothing I don’t want to hear. Don’t like to hear the other side of an argument or consider that maybe they aren’t right on everything.”
Finn, if you actually WATCHED Fox News, you’d know your statement is complete and utter nonsense.
They are the ONLY news channel that provides both sides of every issue, and have the guests to prove it.
iggy
November 6th, 2012
3:34 pm
Where is Tucker? Gonna be a violent night at the Tucker Household when King Obama is dethroned…
iggy
November 6th, 2012
3:36 pm
“US auto industry”. In and of itself that phrase is a joke. You couldnt give me one of those USA junk cars.
Rush
November 6th, 2012
3:37 pm
Why do you hang out arguing with the wall, Huck Finn? Are you a masochist or just someone whose ideas could not lead hungry wolves to fresh meat?
Linda
November 6th, 2012
3:41 pm
Tib @ 3:20, Geitner admitted that within 10 yrs., Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid & interest on the debt will consume 92% of the budget. How many cabinets can we fund with 8 cents of our dollar? Maybe you meant filing cabinets.
http://sfsays.blogspot.com/2012/09/geithner-in-ten-years-entitlements-will.html
roswell mom@3:24, The only jobs the fed. govt. creates is govt. jobs. It stands in the way of job growth by the private sector. Obama is still on the hook for the economic stimulus bill & the $6 T he added to the natl. debt in “name” only of jobs. The only thing better than gridlock is congressional vacation.
iggy
November 6th, 2012
3:43 pm
I guess we could use those left-over shovels from Obamas “shovel ready jobs program” to fill in his political grave.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
3:45 pm
“Yeah, he got most of what he wanted during that window and the slide downward was mostly halted. ”
So now you’re walking back your earlier statement, roswell mom? Good for you.
“The S&P went up” Hunh?
“We began adding jobs, rather than continuing shedding jobs.”
And – so? I never said we didn’t. However, “adding” jobs is a bit subjective, given that there are still fewer people working now than were working when he took office. So technically, we haven’t added a single job since 2009. In addition, many of the jobs added are part-time jobs, not full-time as were the ones that were lost.
“The US auto industry was saved.”
Yes. At OUR expense.
But again, it still doesn’t negate the fact that what you posted earlier was fantasy bull.
Junior Samples
November 6th, 2012
3:51 pm
“Obama got EVERYTHING he asked for in the first 2 years of his Presidency,”
So you’re excluding cabinet positions then…
cc
November 6th, 2012
3:53 pm
“So technically, we haven’t added a single job since 2009. In addition, many of the jobs added are part-time jobs, not full-time as were the ones that were lost.”
. . . and the size of the workforce has increased quite a bit since 2008!
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
3:53 pm
Junior, make your point. If you are able.
carlosgvv
November 6th, 2012
3:55 pm
“Jay Bookman and I discuss who wins”
OBAMA wins!! No Romney wins!! No OBAMA wins!! NO ROMNEY WINS!!
DOES SO DOES NOT DOES SO DOES NOT DOES SO DOES NOT DOES SO DOES NOT
Junior Samples
November 6th, 2012
3:56 pm
Now who has a reading comprehension problem?
cc
November 6th, 2012
3:57 pm
“So you’re excluding cabinet positions then…”
Yeah, except those where the potential nominee had tax problems that couldn’t be settled quietly, had criminal records or were well-known avowed communists. Those people were appointed to other positions or made czars.
Robert
November 6th, 2012
3:58 pm
ABC News’ The Note reports that the Romney campaign is serious about its chances in Pennsylvania, a closely divided state that Democrats have nonetheless won for the last twenty years:
All the body language from the Romney campaign suggests that they see Ohio as a long-shot. Instead, it is now Pennsylvania that paves their path to 270. The Keystone state has eluded plenty of industrious and hopeful Republicans before Romney. While the western and central parts of the state tilt red, the city of Philadelphia and its sprawling and populous suburbs are the key to winning the state.
This gets to Team Romney’s theory of the race. For Pennsylvania to be genuinely competitive, the composition of the elctorate needs to be whiter than is currently projected. At the moment, pollsters assume a voting pool similar to the one in 2008, when 74 percent of voters identified white, and 26 percent of voters identified as nonwhite. Pennsylvania was on the lower end of that — according to exit polls, African Americans, Latinos and Asian Americans were 18 percent of the electorate in the state. Romney is essentially counting on high turnout among whites — and lower turnout from African Americans and Latinos — to push Pennsylvania into the toss-up column. Then, he would have a chance to capture the state, and make up for his problems in Ohio. And if Team Romney thinks this is a real possibility, than they’re also counting on a whiter electorate nationwide.
right to free speech.
November 6th, 2012
3:59 pm
Kyle Wingfield
November 6th, 2012
1:18 pm
Finn: It’s a different shirt. And pants, not that you can see those
Kyle, I think he just wants to sniff your undies.
right to free speech.
November 6th, 2012
4:04 pm
Finn McCool (The System isn’t Broken; It’s Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
3:27 pm
Funny, we libs don’t spend our entire day on Bookman’s blog trying to talk the cons into leaving. I think it’s a matter of the cons over here not being able to deal with a little heat.
Of course, that is why they like Fox News – 24 hours of telling me nothing I don’t want to hear. Don’t like to hear the other side of an argument or consider that maybe they aren’t right on everything.
Nice little bubble world.
Actually Finn, I think that this blog wants to keep things civil and a little classy. Bookmans blog is so one sided & subjective thay it’s comical.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
4:04 pm
Looks like Junior doesn’t have a point after all.
cc
November 6th, 2012
4:06 pm
“All the body language from the Romney campaign suggests that they see Ohio as a long-shot.”
I take anything ABC says with a double handful of salt.
Linda
November 6th, 2012
4:09 pm
Wonder if Obama will use those same hollow styrofoam columns, reminiscent of all places, Greece, & the fake smoke & mirrored teleprompters to give his concession speech.
Obama promised to stop the rise of the oceans. Was Sandy was just another broken campaign promise?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
4:10 pm
You’re clearly smoking something else today.
Today? That’s the normal Tib, Linda.
Thulsa Doom
November 6th, 2012
4:13 pm
One day Huck Finn will actually post something of substance. Then again maybe not.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
4:20 pm
“You’re clearly smoking something else today.
Today? That’s the normal Tib, Linda.”
Says the fool who can’t even get the original poster right in his reply . . .
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
4:21 pm
you shined for us right thinkers.
” right thinkers ”
Oxymoron of the week.
Linda
November 6th, 2012
4:21 pm
Finn@4:10, The only things we smoke are delicacies such as Boston butts. Want a recipe? You might actually learn something of substance to post about.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
4:23 pm
Nate Silver has Obama at 90 percent to win.
And he correctly predicted 49 of 50 states last time around. ( He missed Indiana )
All the polls might be wrong but it looks like Cheesy Grits is going down.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 6th, 2012
4:23 pm
If obozo’s lost the huffington post…..
Election Monitor: Sandy Helps Obama But Not Enough – Romney Will Win Tonight
The huff and puff?
buh bye obozo.
cc
November 6th, 2012
4:26 pm
“Says the fool who can’t even get the original poster right in his reply . . ”
Yep, that’s Finn!
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
4:27 pm
I report
Link?
MarkV
November 6th, 2012
4:29 pm
“The only jobs the fed. govt. creates is govt. jobs. It stands in the way of job growth by the private sector.”
That must be news to the defense industry, as well as contractors doing infrastructure projects, among others.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
4:30 pm
“Nate Silver has Obama at 90 percent to win.
And he correctly predicted 49 of 50 states last time around. ( He missed Indiana )”
One: Nate Silver isn’t the be-all and end-all of prognosticators.
Two: A moron could have predicted the Obama electoral win last time. Nothing special there.
Three: There is no indication he is considering anything other than polling data (and not using early voting totals), which I believe in the end will be invalidated for this election
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
4:30 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
Check out the home page. I report is just cherry picking and she knows it.
JamVet
November 6th, 2012
4:31 pm
Just checking in to see what the vibe is like here today.
And what do you know?
There is no joy in Mudville.
By later tonight I expect it to be full out fugly.
I’ll check in later to see just how much angrier the cons here have gotten.
And as a last resort, just try to enjoy this great country for once!
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
4:32 pm
One: Nate Silver isn’t the be-all and end-all of prognosticators.
Two: A moron could have predicted the Obama electoral win last time. Nothing special there.
Three: There is no indication he is considering anything other than polling data (and not using early voting totals), which I believe in the end will be invalidated for this election
You can bank on that if you want. Sounds like a lot of spinning.
Either way i rather be the one ahead in all the polls instead of being behind and claiming they aren’t valid.
Again all the polls might be wrong.
But I highly doubt it.
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
4:33 pm
Tiberius
Not sure about Silver. Haven’t read any of his material.
Can it be worse than Dick “McCain will walk away with this election” Morris?
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
4:34 pm
And once again, (not surprisingly), AmVet posts . . .
. . . nothing of substance.
Jeffrey
November 6th, 2012
4:35 pm
Kyle, you’re a class act. I hope you stay at the ajc for a long time.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
4:36 pm
“Can it be worse than Dick “McCain will walk away with this election” Morris?”
You made my point, Black Label.
Dick Morris is the biggest blowhard since AmVet.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
4:36 pm
Not sure about Silver. Haven’t read any of his material.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/author/nate-silver/
Im sure he got 49 of 50 states right last time.
And no they weren’t all Obama blowouts. He predicted the tight ones correctly too.
Thats not a bad record.
Dick Morris is just a tool of Fox News they can wheel out at this point.
Rush
November 6th, 2012
4:37 pm
When you are a person of no substance then it is tough to post anything of substance….but don’t question Jam as he/she will be the first to tell you of what a great American he/she is and what he/she has done for the nation.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
4:38 pm
I knew Romney was beat when he made a last ditch effort in Pennsylvania.
That reeked of desperation.
They are hoping for a Hail Mary miracle because at this point that’s what they need.
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
4:38 pm
Cheesy Grits
I do not follow either of them. Merely saying that predictions are made all the time and they are not always correct. That comes from the left, right and “unbiased” sources.
Silver could be right. Morris was incorrect last time, however he might be right tonight.
We shall see.
cc
November 6th, 2012
4:40 pm
I thought a word on exit polls was in order:
THE RACE FOR PRESIDENT
All exit polls predict Kerry will be victor
Polls not considered highly reliable, though Republicans typically vote earlier in day
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
4:42 pm
I do not follow either of them. Merely saying that predictions are made all the time and they are not always correct. That comes from the left, right and “unbiased” sources.
Silver could be right. Morris was incorrect last time, however he might be right tonight.
Your right they are not always correct. But they usually are.
Just like the weatherman. Does he get it right every time. No.
But most times he does.
Another thing. Silver is a math wiz basing his projections and cold hard data.
Again he got 49 of 50 right last time. How did Dick Morris projection work out ?
Morris is just pulling his out of his backside.
Big Big Big difference.
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
4:42 pm
cc
Not real keen on exit polling. All major polls right before the election in 04 indicated that Kerry was behind and that was the outcome.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
4:45 pm
So in your world, Cheesy, there is no consideration for early and absentee voting totals – just polling, right?
Polling that consistently uses a 2008 or better model for Democrat turnout when no such enthusiasm exists IN THE POLLS THEMSELVES.
But when early and absentee votes ARE calculated which shows a complete wipeout of Obama’s margin of victory in Ohio in 2008 (before the first person goes to the polls today – when Republicans generally wait to vote), you don’t consider that because it doesn’t fit your desires?
md
November 6th, 2012
4:46 pm
“It’s most likely that substance will win out because the money for the stuff is gone.”
Sadly, there is a percentage in this country that will always be voting for the stuff……all we can hope for is it never reaches a permanent 51% such as it did in Greece……and we see how that worked out.
Or, one can look at CA if they want the US version……tick, tick, tick before the too big to fail designation is deployed to bail them out of their billion dollar boondoggle……..
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
4:47 pm
Cheesy
Save your combativeness for Tiberius and your usual pillow fights.
I noted that Silver could be right and I did not follow him.
He might be the best think since the internet, but I can’t speak to it either way nor do I really care.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
4:47 pm
“Your right they are not always correct. But they usually are.”
A check of polling accuracy would say this statement is totally wrong.
In fact, only two polling firms got the final numbers nearly correct in 2008.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
4:50 pm
Or, one can look at CA if they want the US version……tick, tick, tick before the too big to fail designation is deployed to bail them out of their billion dollar boondoggle……..
A lie.
They and states like New York and New Jersey subsidize the welfare Southern states like Alabama Georgia and Mississippi etc.
They send far more money in to the government than they get back and the poorer states like Georgia take that money.
They are one of the worlds largest economies and would run circles around Georgia economically.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
4:51 pm
A check of polling accuracy would say this statement is totally wrong.
In fact, only two polling firms got the final numbers nearly correct in 2008.
Not even remotely true.
Nate Silver got 49 of 50 states correct.
How do you spin or explain that ? LOL
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
4:52 pm
Save your combativeness for Tiberius and your usual pillow fights.
I noted that Silver could be right and I did not follow him.
He might be the best think since the internet, but I can’t speak to it either way nor do I really care.
Not being combative.
Just trying to enlighten.
cc
November 6th, 2012
4:53 pm
Black Label:
I did read where the media has agreed to lay off the exit poll stuff to a pre-agreed time. That is a good thing! I’d actually prefer not to hear/see anything about exit polling. Exit polling is unreliable and, in the long term, means absolutely nothing.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
4:54 pm
Cheesy, I wasn’t talking about Nate Silver (nor were YOU at the time).
You mentioned polling as being “usually correct”, NOT Nate Silver.
Pay attention. Your slobbering over Silver is getting messy.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
4:55 pm
Either way enjoy the results coming in tonight.
A piece of advice too.
If you want to win in 2016 you better come up with somebody better than Cheesy Grits.
Obama was there for the taking with
A. Him being black
B. The economy he inherited not doing well.
But Cheesy Grits was such an awful awful candidate.
Cheers for that I guess.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
4:55 pm
Considering California is running billions of dollars in debt each year, I’ll take Georgia any day.
md
November 6th, 2012
4:56 pm
CA is 25 billion in the hole Cheesy, and their gov’t pension funds aren’t even fully funded……..that bit about carrying red states is so bogus, it’s their IDEOLOGY that is getting them in trouble.
Just like it did in greece……or spain……or france…….pick one.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
4:57 pm
You mentioned polling as being “usually correct”, NOT Nate Silver.
The polls usually are correct and Nate Silver has proven to be highly reliable as well.
I know reading comprehension is tough with Georgia schools and this being a red state and all.
“FOUR MORE YEARS !!!!!!”
See ya.
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
4:58 pm
cc
I think that is a good thing. If people think polling leading up to the election isn’t always reliable, how can on the spot polling with little analysis be that great? I am sure that the major pollsters have certain techniques and at times are close and even on the money, but I would prefer not to know until they have ample data to call the state.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
4:59 pm
that bit about carrying red states is so bogus,
Oh no its not.
Georgia gets far more federal money back than it ever sends to Washington.
Blue states like New Jersey and New York send in far more and get less back than red states.
They have been subsidizing the welfare South for years.
I dont expect you to get that though so I wont even try.
I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please
November 6th, 2012
5:01 pm
Considering California is running billions of dollars in debt each year, I’ll take Georgia any day.
If the Fed cutoff the money to Georgia for all the trailer park welfare folks things would get ugly quick.
Again Georgia takes in far more than it ever produces in taxes for the Government.
Gov Christie said so himself when talking about New Jersey getting aid and how little they actually get in Fed money compared to other states.
This is like arguing with a wall though.
Either way enjoy the results tonight.
Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed
November 6th, 2012
5:02 pm
“The polls usually are correct”
A check of polling accuracy would show this statement to be wholly without merit.
“and Nate Silver has proven to be highly reliable as well.”
For one stinkin’ election.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 6th, 2012
5:06 pm
If obozo’s lost ana marie cox -
Why I’m not freaking out about the idea of a Mitt Romney presidency
I’m not complacent: bad things would happen. But I also have faith that, despite partisan politics, America arcs toward progress
ana marie cox?
buh bye obozo!
md
November 6th, 2012
5:08 pm
As I said cheesy the last time you posted that bs, check out the numbers on military spending in red states AND medicare spending……2 of the biggest expenses in those “red” states.
And guess where half the population of old people that use that medicare come from??
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 6th, 2012
5:11 pm
UPDATE: Turnout likely higher than in 2008, Virginia state elections official says
Long Lines, Few Problems in OH
Voters Endure Long Lines in MI
Take your country back, Repugs!
Finn mcCool
November 6th, 2012
5:19 pm
Well, I walked right up and voted.
8 times!
Finn mcCool
November 6th, 2012
5:20 pm
Old joke:
When I die I want to be buried in Chicago – so I can stay politically active.
Dixie
November 6th, 2012
5:23 pm
One of them will win then the SCOTUS will choose the president. It’s our new electorial process.
cc
November 6th, 2012
5:30 pm
“When I die I want to be buried in Chicago – so I can stay politically active.”
You can vote.
Hopefully, that will end your posting, though . . .
md
November 6th, 2012
5:31 pm
For a decent breakdown of federal spending per state if one cares to wade into it vs those that just read the talking points about the na na boo boo battle of the haves vs have nots……….
http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/cffr-10.pdf
cc
November 6th, 2012
5:31 pm
“Old joke”
Yes . . . you are . . .
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
November 6th, 2012
5:38 pm
What comforts me is Romney leads in independents according to most all polls, some by double digits. 2008, Obama romped with the independents. Before the election, everyone, including the famous HI HO Silver, Morris, Rove, Trippi, and Tonto said, whoever wins the independents will win, because the country is so equally divided.
Now that Romney is ahead with the independents, surprise, the Obama Influenced media doesn’t talk much about independents.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
5:42 pm
cc, do you have any humor to your personality? Or are you just an old angry white guy through and through?
JamVet
November 6th, 2012
5:43 pm
Cheer up, tibby!
Things are likely going to go very bad for you tonight, but hopefully you’re not gonna stroke out on us.
We need you to continue playing the target in the blog’s whack-a-troll game for the next four years!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
November 6th, 2012
5:43 pm
Official Tarrance prediction on the popular vote.
Based on our analysis of the data, it is our prediction that the final popular vote results will be Romney=50.3%, Obama=48.8%, and Other candidates=0.9%
Sounds a little low for Romney, should be more like 52%
But we’ll take it.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
5:44 pm
some humor:
6 Excuses Right-Wingers Are Teeing Up In Case Obama Beats Romney
It’s never the fault of conservatism!
http://www.alternet.org/6-excuses-right-wingers-are-teeing-case-obama-beats-romney
cc
November 6th, 2012
5:44 pm
“One of them will win then the SCOTUS will choose the president. It’s our new electorial process:
Unfortunately, I fear you are correct. There are reportedly thousands of lawyers involved at this point. I’ve never known a lawyer fearful of filing a lawsuit when there is money to be made.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
November 6th, 2012
5:45 pm
They are one of the worlds largest economies and would run circles around Georgia economically.
Yep, but Georgia balances its budget every year. I used to ask my father why everyone coming home from up north at Christmas, had better cars than we did, his response was they are rented, ours we paid cash for.
CA and NY would never have gotten into all the mess they are in, if they weren’t allowed to borrow money for one foolish thing and the other. Now the US taxpayers will eventually have to pay off their debts.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
5:46 pm
Ya’ll going to see “Lincoln” or is it just too much liberal hoohaw?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
5:48 pm
Tiberius’ other handle is “Cartman”
MOOOOOMMMM, cheesy puffs!
JamVet
November 6th, 2012
5:53 pm
…had better cars than we did, his response was they are rented.
Please.
The jobs and wages up north, historically have been better than the jobs and wages paid in Dixie.
Which still trails the rest of the nation…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
5:53 pm
the people on Fox News are looking constipated. I think it might be that big Mormon, bully sammich they swallowed hook line and sinker.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
November 6th, 2012
5:54 pm
Cheesy, have you ever checked the population of NY, CA, and NJ and compare it to GA. Obviously with more people, you pay more taxes into the Fed and the salary for all those Hedge Fund, Stock Market Analyst, and Movie Stars are quintuple what people in GA make, thus more Fed taxes. If the Mistake happens again, the higher taxes on income on the 1%, will make things even more lopsided.
What are you complaining about, a little redistribution, turn in your socialist card.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
5:56 pm
The jobs and wages up north, historically have been better than the jobs and wages paid in Dixie.
Jammy, down here we don’t work for ourselves, we work for them rich bankers in New Yawk City,
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 6th, 2012
5:59 pm
Cheesy, have you ever checked the population of NY, CA, and NJ and compare it to GA.
Rafe thinks 1/2 the population in California works in movies – they’re all movie stars, right? LOL. This is an average and the average person isn’t in the moovies, Rafe. Sorry to pop your bubble!
mwuahahahahahahaaha
President John F Kerry
November 6th, 2012
6:00 pm
Finn – May I have a word with you for a moment about exit polling?
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
November 6th, 2012
6:00 pm
Jamvet
No one is arguing with higher wages in Union states, probably why we are losing all our jobs to China and all the car companies are moving south. Freedom, independence, self reliance, and lifestyle are not something I would trade for a higher paying job.
Land spread far and wide, gimme that country side! Green Acres is the place for me.
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
6:02 pm
Rafe
Have more union or non union jobs left the country?
Ronald Reagan
November 6th, 2012
6:04 pm
After hearing Mr. Bookman being being interviewed I can understand why he chose print as his career choice.
Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy
November 6th, 2012
6:04 pm
Finn, the average wage in CA is greater than GA. Of course the cost of living is extreme, so it all winds up being about the same, but taxes are based on income unfortunately for the CA folk. State taxes, property tax, city taxes, and sales taxes are higher. I know that they ain’t all movie stars living in mansions with seement ponds, but they are still a strange breed.
JamVet
November 6th, 2012
6:06 pm
…probably why we are losing all our jobs to China and all the car companies are moving south.
Rafe, that is as dumb as the the northerners rent their cars instead of buying them claim.
Seriously.
adam smith's invisible hand
November 6th, 2012
6:07 pm
This may turn out to be another urban legend, but, if not, it shows how some older people can make mistakes on their ballots:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/06/1156936/-George-Bush-voted-for-Obama-by-mistake
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
6:07 pm
Rafe
If the union wages are the problem then why did so many non union mills and factories close in the south over the last 30 yrs?
When was IT a huge unionized industry?
Even engineering?
Not absolving unions, but your talking points only match a percentage of the reality of the issue. But they did make you feel good and they sounded good, so you get a C for effort.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 6th, 2012
6:11 pm
There are a couple of interesting referenda in California and Michigan. Voters are being asked whether they want to seriously screw themselves, and I have little doubt they’ll take the politicians up on the offer.
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 6th, 2012
6:13 pm
Companies are no doubt moving offshore because they’re upset with the U.S. for not taxing and regulating enough.
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
6:15 pm
Well if you mean that programmers in the US do not make 1000 a month, factory workers 300 a month and factories are not allowed to pollute to high hell as they do in China, India and other places…….. you would be 100% correct
Decision Time! Live blog of results for president, Senate, Georgia races | Kyle Wingfield
November 6th, 2012
6:17 pm
[...] if Twitter, blogging, and the Google+ Hangout from earlier today — along with the next Hangout we’ll do either tonight or tomorrow morning — [...]
cc
November 6th, 2012
6:18 pm
Rafe:
Remember the old joke about the difference between Yankees and hemorrhoids?
md
November 6th, 2012
6:19 pm
“If the union wages are the problem then why did so many non union mills and factories close in the south over the last 30 yrs?”
Artificial wages are a problem no matter if they are union or non-union, although companies with unions have a harder road to travel when competing with countries that have labor rates 2-3 times lower than our own.
It always boils down to what the consumer is willing to pay, NOT what the worker thinks they deserve……….
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 6th, 2012
6:19 pm
“Yes we can” rack up $6 trillion in new debt in four years!
“Yes we can” lose our AAA credit rating!
“Yes we can” keep Guantanamo Bay open!
JamVet
November 6th, 2012
6:19 pm
Companies are no doubt moving offshore because they’re upset with the U.S. for not taxing and regulating enough.
That is even dumber than Rafe’s claim.
Seriously.
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
6:23 pm
md
Where did I state what a worker thinks they deserve?
You are good at making the argument fit your narrative.
That is your rabbit hole and you are free to make that choice.
Have a drink
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
6:24 pm
md
If you are going to cry about my post then why not cry that the blogger I responded to was providing a small percentage of a bigger picture.
Your selective crying is unbecoming of a rigid lady as yourself
Lil' Barry Bailout - Vote American
November 6th, 2012
6:25 pm
Well, JamVet, your Idiot Messiah claims to be a friend to business and then he incentivizes companies to add jobs in America using a mixture of higher taxes and stifling regulations. No wonder he’s been so successful!
MarkV
November 6th, 2012
6:25 pm
I am not sure which side will be offended more by my saying this, but in my opinion both Kyle and Jay do quite well in these chats, and do not deserve any scorn.
JamVet
November 6th, 2012
6:28 pm
…then he incentivizes companies to add jobs in America using a mixture of higher taxes and stifling regulations.
Dumber, still.
Seriously.
md
November 6th, 2012
6:29 pm
“Where did I state what a worker thinks they deserve?”
When you mentioned unions…….which are groups of workers that tell companies what they deserve to be paid…….it’s just the way it is, no narrative required.
And I was in a union for 20 years, so I’m well versed in how overpaid I actually was in comparison to the entry level work I did………
Linda
November 6th, 2012
6:31 pm
Barack@6:17, If yes you can, as well as yes you could, why didn’t you?
It will take Obama in a landslide to put the fire out in his pants & an E.E.N.T. to shorten his nose back to normal size.
cc
November 6th, 2012
6:31 pm
Barack is the best:
Mighty bold big talk . . . since no poll in the U.S. has yet closed.
md
November 6th, 2012
6:31 pm
“If you are going to cry…….”
Merely stating the obvious if one has a clue as to how things actually work in this world…………
MarkV
November 6th, 2012
6:32 pm
Barack is the best – I agree. In both chats I have watched Kyle was much more moderate than in some of his blog articles.
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
6:32 pm
md
You do not speak for me nor do I speak for you. You are welcome to respond to any comment on the blog, just as I am, but quit putting words in people’s mouth to meet your narrative. That is stupid and I am sure you are much smarter than that. Act like it, dear child.
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
6:35 pm
md
Oh I have a clue. My education, income, charity work, etc speaks for itself.
But do carry on with your stereotypical stupidity
md
November 6th, 2012
6:36 pm
BL, you seem to be having a problem following the bouncing ball…..it was you that had the question on unions and wages, and I merely added to the conversation…..do try to keep up….dear child.
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
6:37 pm
md
I added much more to the conversation than just unions. You elected to show selective condemnation and go after one thing as well as putting words in my mouth.
You need a drink. Can you have one or is that why you are so rigid today?
md
November 6th, 2012
6:38 pm
“Oh I have a clue. My education, income, charity work, etc speaks for itself.”
Ohhhhh….tooting one’s own horn, good for you.
Now, would you like to carry on the debate about wages or are you already too full of wisdom??
md
November 6th, 2012
6:40 pm
Again, try to follow the bouncing ball……I commented on unions AND non-unions, but you must have missed that little tid-bit…..are you drinking without me?
Black Label
November 6th, 2012
6:43 pm
Never drink during the week and not every weekend.
Some people have that kind of self control, do you?
md
November 6th, 2012
6:47 pm
“Some people have that kind of self control, do you?”
Absolutely……..and that’s not a vodka pun.
marko
November 6th, 2012
7:33 pm
The people I feel sorry for are those (like Finn McCool) who have decided that disagreement with someone means you hate them. Hate and disagreement are two seperate terms. Please consult a dictionary to remove any confusion of the meanings of each.
Terry Bradshaw
November 6th, 2012
8:46 pm
Wheres the chicken?
ld
November 7th, 2012
12:35 am
The future of the US Supreme Court is that indivdual liberty and equal right under law have prevailed over tyranny by the evangelical zealots; also, the winners include the employee class and the consumer class.
The “fiscal cliff” can now be used as as a tool with very real potential to reinvigorate the economic middle class [ instead of the GOP plan to use it as as tool with which the moneyed investor class who are the wealthiest among us would use to finish destroying the economic middle class as they further widen the wealth gap, resulting in a society of a few landed gentry with everyone else not serving as obedient military as sharecroppers and/or indentured servants to the wealthiest among us.
Finn mcCool
November 7th, 2012
9:33 am
Who wrote this yesterday?
Bug bye bozo