Election Day Video: Jay Bookman and I discuss who wins and what’s next

With the election results almost upon us, Jay Bookman, Aaron Gould Sheinin and I decided it was time for another chat using Google+ Hangout. Check it out:

Depending on how quickly the results come in tonight, we’ll do another of these either tonight or tomorrow morning.

– By Kyle Wingfield

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Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

November 6th, 2012
12:56 pm

Check out the mural of the Messiah, in one of the polling precincts in Philly. Kinda reminds me of a Cuban election.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/06/judge-issuing-order-to-reinstate-booted-philadelphia-election-officials/

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 6th, 2012
1:05 pm

Anne Romney is looking forward to 3.5 years of vacation starting tomorrow.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 6th, 2012
1:08 pm

I clicked on that Fox News link and all of a sudden I started disparaging minorities and elderly people.

That’s some strong hate power!

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 6th, 2012
1:10 pm

Kyle hasn’t changed clothes since the last time he did a video blog!

What are they paying you, Kyle? Blank newsprint paper?

I demand to see Cheesy Grits Birth Certificate- Long Form Please

November 6th, 2012
1:10 pm

Court-appointed Republican poll inspectors are being forcibly removed from voting stations in some Philadelphia wards and replaced in some cases by Democratic inspectors and even members of the Black Panthers, according to GOP officials.

Key phrase being the last one.

According to GOP officials.

Fail

Aquagirl

November 6th, 2012
1:13 pm

Kyle hasn’t changed clothes since the last time he did a video blog!

Yeah, but he did take the time to muzzle his co-workers. Please remember to untie them, Kyle.

JF McNamara

November 6th, 2012
1:14 pm

So, Jay’s writing is generally much more in depth and fact driven, but he came off like a frazzled drunkard. I often doubt the facts in your article, but you came off like a polished political pundit. I’m confused now. I wish I’d never seen that video.

MrLiberty

November 6th, 2012
1:17 pm

What’s next?? Same old, same old. Nothing fundamentally ever changes with elections in this country and that is exactly how the powers-that-be like it.

Seriously, What exactly is fundamentally different about Obama and Romney’s positions on these critical issues: Ending the empire, slashing military spending, restoring sound money, abolishing the Federal Reserve, eliminating unconstitutional government agencies, restoring a free market in health care, restoring a free market in everything else, ending the failed war on drugs, ending the ethanol subsidy program, ending agriculture subsidies, ending bank bailouts, eliminating entitlement programs, ending the income tax for everyone, ending the wars in the middle east and bringing all the troops home to defend America, restoring integrity to our election system by banning all electronic/unauditable voting machines. You get my point. I could go on for hours showing that on every major issue that would actually positively impact the American economy and restore freedom and liberty, Obama and Romney are both the same and both on the side of continued tyranny. No hope for change folks. The ship is headed for the proverbial cliff and though you may notice a slightly decreased rate of acceleration from one, the end result will be the same. Prepare, buy gold, buy food, get your money out of the dollar and out of treasury bills, and prepare for the disaster that lies ahead.

Kyle Wingfield

November 6th, 2012
1:18 pm

Finn: It’s a different shirt. And pants, not that you can see those.

They BOTH suck

November 6th, 2012
1:22 pm

Kyle

Good job expressing views and projections.

iggy

November 6th, 2012
1:28 pm

Bookmans toupee’ looked well ironed.

Jerry Eads

November 6th, 2012
1:28 pm

Bravo, you two. Do wish Jay would temper his uber-liberal gambits (but most of the time methinks he’s in the sane range) and VERY much wish Kyle would be CONSERVATIVE and not “right wing” or just plain radical (witness knee-jerk support of the Amendment 1 debacle which is actually “You voters are just plain too stupid to take care of your schools so we’ll do it for you” – which is not under any rational definition “conservative”), but hats off for avoiding the dueling field.

southpaw

November 6th, 2012
1:39 pm

Two observations:

1. The first black President WAS re-elected…in 1996. ;-)

2. Much as I hate to say it, we probably WILL hear about lawsuits, not election results, come tomorrow morning. Here’s a good start:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/11/judge-sets-hearing-in-ohio-provisional-votes-fight-148512.html?hp=l13

My guess is one candidate will have a bit over 260 electoral votes, the other a bit over 250 electoral votes. I won’t guess which is which. Whoever wins the lawsuit, and then Ohio, wins the election. This brings to mind something I read during the hubbub surrounding the election 12 years ago. Replace November 8th with November 6th and 2005 with 2017, and it should make a little more sense: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blrevocation.htm

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

November 6th, 2012
1:42 pm

“So, Jay’s writing is generally much more in depth and fact driven, but he came off like a frazzled drunkard.”

No, his writing is about on par with the frazzled drunkard as well . . . ;)

Del

November 6th, 2012
1:48 pm

I would disagree with Jay, on the last question. If Obama loses it will be a repudiation of his policies. He’s gone far left in his first term and that wasn’t just intended to energize his base it’s the way Obama believes. The Democrats would have to re-think their strategy even if Obama wins what’s appearing to be a very close election. Of course even with those two scenarios the Democrats may not re-think their strategies as they’re pretty smug in believing that the country is trending far left. The financial collision course we’re on may ultimately turn the country far right of center. If Obama wins reelection he may end up wishing he hadn’t.

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

November 6th, 2012
1:53 pm

Del

I agree with what you said, it is called over reaching and Dems are famous for that. Think Pelosi in 2007, when she came in like the demon she is, and just pushed everyone aside and said here is how we are going to govern, ignoring whatever procedures and past protocols that were previously used.

Rafe Hollister, suffering through Oblamer's ineptocracy

November 6th, 2012
1:55 pm

BTW: Kyle good job on the video, you shined for us right thinkers.

Del

November 6th, 2012
1:57 pm

Yeah Kyle, ditto what Rafe said.

Dusty

November 6th, 2012
2:02 pm

Sorry, Kyle. I’d like to see/hear you but I am not watching your video ( not that anybody cares but me)..

As Bookman “moderates” many conservatives off of his blog, I am “moderating” him off of my screen.

I can get a very good discussion of this election from other sources.

You have to work with Bookman. I don’t.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

November 6th, 2012
2:03 pm

I’ll disagree with Jay’s assessment as well. If Obama loses, the Democrats SHOULD consider changing ideologies, but the the question is whether they can face that reality and actually change them.

They’re a pig-headed lot, the Pelosi-Reid-Schumer wing.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

November 6th, 2012
2:05 pm

BTW, Kyle. Nice job. But update the wardrobe, man . . .

Break out of that color wheel! ;)

East Lake Ira

November 6th, 2012
2:07 pm

Awwww, is poor wittle Dusty butthurt?

Awwww, poor baby.

Dusty

November 6th, 2012
2:10 pm

East Lake Ira,

Nope, not butt hurt . Just selective!

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

November 6th, 2012
2:18 pm

And, the most accurate pollster in both 2004 and 2008 says -

FINAL RASMUSSEN: R 49% O 48%…

Works for me.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 6th, 2012
2:23 pm

If Obama loses, the Democrats SHOULD consider changing ideologies, but the the question is whether they can face that reality and actually change them

And if Obama wins, the first ever in such a hurting economy, the Cons will change their ideologies to accept the new norm in America?

I didn’t think so.

We are going to see the Conservative ideology hung up in a closet today. To be forgotten forever…

H.E. Pennypacker

November 6th, 2012
2:24 pm

I have never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as a cause for withdrawing from a friendship…….Thomas Jefferson

I don’t want to watch this video, lest I be exposed to conflicting viewpoints……Dusty.

hsn

November 6th, 2012
2:24 pm

Kyle Wingfield said,

“I proudly cast my vote for the president. He has been a world-class leader even under extreme partisan opposition, record Republican fillibusters, and surrogate assaults. He killed our No.1 wanted man – Osama bin Laden, instituted badly needed banking regulations, ended the expensive war in Iraq, signed the fair-pay act for women, ended DOMA, rescued our auto industry from total collapse, and our economy from bleeding 800k jobs a month, among others.

Considering the hand dealt him by his predecessor and what he has accomplished in almost 4 short years under unimaginably difficult circumstances, I couldn’t live with myself if I did not help MOVE our country FORWARD by voting for our president.

I therefore, urge all my readers and voters to vote Obama/Biden 2012. It is the least we can do for our country.”

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Great write-up, Kyle! What took you so long?

Beyond The Middle of the Road

November 6th, 2012
2:26 pm

Whether you disagree with them or not I think the AJC is well-served by both Jay and Kyle.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

November 6th, 2012
2:31 pm

Finn, here’s the thing: the liberal ideology DIDN’T WORK!

No administration in the history of this nation has ever had such a slow (and in some instances non-existent) recovery from an economic downturn.

And don’t try that tired old “but the GOP were obstructionists” crap, because according to that contrived list of his alleged accomplishments you touted on the previous column, he got 96% of his legislation through IN THE FIRST YEAR! He got most everything he wanted through his second year.

You can’t have it both ways, sonny-boy.

Maybe if he actually TRIED to work with the GOP instead of dismissing their ideas out of hand, he might have gotten something through in years 3 or 4, but if he doesn’t learn to play nice in the sandbox (if he’s re-elected of course), he’s going to have the same problems for AT LEAST 2 more, if not 4 more years.

Romney will at least work with the other side, and watch him peel off a couple of moderate Dems if he’s elected to get through his agenda.

Kyle Wingfield

November 6th, 2012
2:34 pm

hsn @ 2:24: That’s about as accurate as anything else you’ve posted here.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

November 6th, 2012
2:35 pm

hsn, why must you post obvious lies like your 2:24 to make points?

Oh, that’s right – you’re a liberal.

Del

November 6th, 2012
2:37 pm

We are going to see the Conservative ideology hung up in a closet today. To be forgotten forever…

Finn, clearly doesn’t know very much about America and her history.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 6th, 2012
2:43 pm

You can’t have it both ways, sonny-boy.

Tiberius, sweetie pie, how many EV’s did Obama win in 2008? Overwhelming victory. No one expected the slow, out of touch conservatives to become liberal and forward thinking.

Now, show me an administration that digs itself out of that deep a hole in 4 years. It’s impossible. We warned you Cons back in the early 00’s that it was going to take a really long time to dig out of the hole W was going to leave us in. See, I’m a good prognosticator – on the spot.

Linda

November 6th, 2012
2:44 pm

The American people are voting on either stuff or substance. It’s most likely that substance will win out because the money for the stuff is gone.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 6th, 2012
2:45 pm

he’s going to have the same problems for AT LEAST 2 more, if not 4 more years

Big O will deal with whatever hand he is dealt.

stands for decibels

November 6th, 2012
2:47 pm

Jay’s writing is generally much more in depth and fact driven, but he came off like a frazzled drunkard.

That’s called “working from home.”

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

November 6th, 2012
2:47 pm

“Tiberius, sweetie pie, how many EV’s did Obama win in 2008? Overwhelming victory.”

And that means – what – in the discussion, Finn?

Answer = Nothing.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

November 6th, 2012
2:49 pm

“Big O will deal with whatever hand he is dealt.”

Beyond the blind and nonsensical response, Finn, HOW?

He’s shown ZERO capacity to play nice with others. ZERO. He’ll be stuck with a GOP House and a neutered Senate – just like the last 4 years.

What does he do differently?

cc

November 6th, 2012
2:53 pm

“As Bookman “moderates” many conservatives off of his blog, I am “moderating” him off of my screen. ”

Good for you, Dusty!

Linda

November 6th, 2012
2:54 pm

Reagan dug us out of a deep economic hole in 17 months.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40242.html

Obama’s “recovery” has not even started since the unemployment rate is higher now than when he took office. He has not created ONE NET job.

Mike

November 6th, 2012
2:56 pm

republicans have got to quit getting tricked into arguing over silly issues.

cc

November 6th, 2012
2:57 pm

“Big O will deal with whatever hand he is dealt.”

Just as he dealt with “Operation Fast and Furious”, in which Border Patrol agent Terry was killed with one of those weapons?

Just as he dealt with Benghazi, where four Americans were refused assistance and were killed?

cc

November 6th, 2012
3:01 pm

“He’s shown ZERO capacity to play nice with others. ZERO. He’ll be stuck with a GOP House and a neutered Senate – just like the last 4 years.”

No, he won’t.

He will be in Hawaii playing golf – permanently. President Romney will be dealing with all the problems.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 6th, 2012
3:03 pm

Benghazi…..Boo!

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

November 6th, 2012
3:03 pm

I’m with ya, cc!

I still have hope that someday Finn with think for himself before posting, instead of finding some whacko lib website to link to.

Tiberius - pulling the tail of the left AND right when needed

November 6th, 2012
3:07 pm

Just like a heartless liberal to dismiss the murders of 4 Americans, Finn.

Way to class it up.

You are the perfect example of an Obama myrmidon. It doesn’t matter the subject.

Linda

November 6th, 2012
3:09 pm

Actually, if Obama looses, he can start campaigning Wed. for 2016. He can keep the teleprompters & can use the jet & chopper for another 2 1/2 mts. He’s been campaigning for over 4 years & has another 4 years to really get it down pat.

Rush

November 6th, 2012
3:15 pm

Same here, Dusty. The trunk monkey Bookie man can go play with his like minded libtards on his website which tries to moderate out anyone with a divergent point of view.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 6th, 2012
3:16 pm

Tomorrow, we come for your guns!

booh!

Eric Holder!

booh!

Rush

November 6th, 2012
3:18 pm

Finn and class are mutually exclusive terms.